Haunted Puppets and the Case of Pedro Pablo Nakada: the Apostle of Death

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Hi everyone, This is Christina and
Carmen and this is another episode of a

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Spooky Tales, the podcast for all
things a spooky and true crime now apparently

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because we keep covering one true crime
case and when hunted case. So mm

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hmm. This is what we do
now. Before we get to that,

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though, I do have a listeners
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dot com. You can email Oh
wait, oh my god, I did

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it again, Say email twice,
Say email twice. Yeah, okay.

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The voicemail might cut off like at two

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minutes, so it's longer than that. I just need to call back again,

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That works too. And thanks to
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one was sent in via Instagram.
I'm going to keep them anonymous. Okay.

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My fiance makes yearly trips out to
West Texas to visit his grandpa and

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theos. There was this one day
where one of his theos had invited him

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and his grandpa out to the ranch
where he works at. The ranch is

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in a certified ghost town. Oh
certified Yeah, Okay, this is legit

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and the only people passing through there
are mainly the ranch owners and border patrol.

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This ranch has been said to be
haunted by a relative of the owner

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and by the Native Americans. This
particular day, my fiance and his grandpa

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stayed late into the night, which
my fiance's grandpa was not happy about because

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he likes to be home before sundown. As they approached the gate to the

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main road, my fancy have seen
a white object on the side of the

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road and in the blink of an
eye, it grew. His grandpa noticed

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it too and was in disbelief when
they noticed it was a Letusa. It

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turned around and had the face of
a woman. Oh my god. It

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quickly spread its wings, which my
fiance recalls being big enough to hear the

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wings flap as it flew away.
They have made multiple trips back to this

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ranch, but make it home before
sundown every time and have not had another

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encounter the end. Choose us.
You gotta watch out. Yeah, they're

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out there waiting to eat you there
in decads, So that's where they live.

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Yes, I just can't hear they
choose us stories without thinking about that

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stupid episode of mine. Yeah,
oh my god, ron, like this

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is this one is scary and it
was like the sluttiest scary story ever,

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sludiest and muddiest. Yes, yeah, that's funny. Good times, good

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times. Okay, Well, I
have a horrible case, a true crime

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case. For we actually which one? Who's ringing? Which one you want

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to do? The haunted one?
Well, you sent me the ghost story,

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so that's true. Huh. Okay, so I guess I redecided who

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was doing what? All right,
well, what should we do first?

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I'll start off, I'll start off. Yeah, all right, let's do

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that. Okay. So, oh, I should preface, preface, preface,

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prefaces that I did read this on
another podcast years ago. Now I

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doubt a lot of people are so, which is why we're doing it again,

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because it's good. It's a good
one and I can't remember anyway,

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so it's gonna be like I'm hearing
it for the first time. Okay.

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So this is a tell from Celaya
Guana. Oh my god, sorry,

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gu oh, this is a tell
from Celaya, Guanajuato. Good job,

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thank you. So. In the
nineteen seventies, a puppeteer who went by

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Gapi. He held shows daily out
of his house. He had thirty three

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puppets and the town loved him.
That's too many puppets, went too many?

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Yeah, he had shows every day
on the weekends and the house was

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packed with kids, parents, grandparents'
families. He had been doing this show

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for years now, and one night, after a normal show, Gapi put

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all of his puppets away, just
like he had been for years. He

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kept all thirty three puppets in a
giant wooden trunk in his living room.

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Then he went to bed like normal, like always. The next day,

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when he woke up, he found
two of his puppets, a boy puppet

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and a girl puppet, laying on
his cow, which scandalous. But were

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these puppets up to? Yeah?
What were they doing? How dare they

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without a chaperone just be next to
each other like that? Seriously? Did

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they leave room for Jesus? I
don't know. Anyway, he thought that

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maybe he didn't put them away in
the first place, but it was weird

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because he usually did. Seemed like
they got out on their own. But

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like anyone would, he decided to
not think about it. Yeah, yeah,

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naturally, he decided to think that
he had just forgotten to put them

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away, like anybody would rationalize this. I think like that. And you

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know what, that's easy to justify
as you're getting older or me right now,

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because I forget everything. Mm hmm
yeah, you at any age.

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Yeah. So he went on with
his day and then it was a night

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to him again. He went to
bed as he usually did, and then

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during his sleep, he heard the
sound of tapping. Ooh, it's the

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same sound the puppets made when he
made them dance on stage. I'm sorry,

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I can only think of Pinocchio.
Picture Pinocchio dancing tap tap, No,

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that's what I did picture Yeah.
Oh okay, yeah, well,

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I mean, have we really seen
other puppets. Well, they're Slappy from

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Goosebumps. Oh yeah yeah, I
was also picturing him. So anyway,

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he heard this noise, but he
was like, what the fuck because he

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wasn't making them dance, so oh, what the hell? He decided to

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ignore it and he went back to
bed. Nanny woke up again and saw

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the same two puppets on the couch, but he knew this time, he

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was like certain that he had put
them away. And again he put them

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away and he went on with his
day. So the next morning is when

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he saw them anyway, whatever,
it was nighttime he was fast asleep,

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and then in the middle of the
night he heard the tapping again, and

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it was the same tapping as before, you know, the tapping sound that

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puppets mad. This time he decided
to glance at the door and he saw

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little shadows at the foot of the
door. He was terrified and he got

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under his covers and began to pray. The next morning, he packed up

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all of his puppets. He said, fuck them puppets, and he took

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them to a priest so that he
could bless them. He thought that the

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puppets were good after that and there
were no more problems with them. So

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he held another show at the house. So the house was packed as usual,

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and during the performance, while using
his judge puppet, it began to

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rotate its head on its own.
But the audience were They weren't freaked out

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because they had no idea this was
not part of the show. But Gappi

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knew that he was not moving the
puppet that way. Wow. So then

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Gapi said, fuck this for good, no more blessing the puppets. The

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puppets obviously can be blessed their possessed
or something. Puppet show canceled forever indefinitely,

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and so he buried the puppets and
presumably never looked at them again.

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Then in nineteen ninety two, Abigail
Cargo Maldonado dug up the box of puppets,

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and one of the dolls when she
opened it, their head was rotating.

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Somehow, these puppets ended up in
the Sealaya Museum, and the old

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man's house was abandoned after his death
in nineteen ninety six, and I guess

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remains abandoned to this day. Yeah, okay, and the puppets are still

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in the museum, are they probably? I don't know. So I think

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I've heard that that's creepy puppets moving
puppets. There's a museum of mummies there

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too, in Celaya. Oh wait, I thought I thought the mummy museum

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was in Guato City. I don't
know, right, I know, I

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googled the puppets and it says Museum
of Mummies, Celaya. Oh and maybe

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it is the same museum. If
you've been to this museum and there's puppets

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and mummies, let us know.
I want to go to Mexico and like

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go to all the places that we've
talked about. In Juanato, there's a

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La Lamentos, which is like an
all that episode of ours. Then there's

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like La Lata Something, another hunted
house. Then there's the Museum of Mummies,

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and apparently that's where these puppets are
as well. I'm not sure.

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M hmm, Okay, so I
guess we'll take a quick at break before

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it get to my story. All
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right, Carmen, I have a
pretty terrible case for you. Great.

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Yeah, as per usual, this
one takes place in Peru and it's known

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as the Apostle of Death. That's
like his name. Yikes. Yeah,

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that's all. It's not good nope, nope. So Pedro Pablo Nakada Luna

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was born Pedro Pablo on February twenty
eighth, nineteen seventy three, in Lima,

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Peru. He had a very difficult
childhood. I will give true warnings

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here childhood abuse, sexual abuse,
mental disorder, suicide, all that in

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his childhood. So his father was
an alcoholic and his mother had an unknown

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mental disorder. It suspecters who date
to have been either she was schizophrenic or

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bipolar, but they still don't know
which one. He just like something something.

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Both parents beat him regularly, and
his siblings, all of them.

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He regularly witnessed his dad beating his
mom and then on top of that,

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his siblings also beat him up and
bullied him. And then he was bullied

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in school. God couldn't catch break
anywhere, Yeah, nowhere. His father

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died like at a young age four
or five. It made his life home

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life worse. Obviously, losing a
parent does that already, right, But

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apparently his father was the one who
would like stop his siblings from bullying him,

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beating him things like that. So
then once he was gone and there

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was no one left to do that, So like one incident that he talks

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about that like talks about that ruined
his childhood more so than others, is

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that his sisters would put him in
a dress and then pushed, like lock

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him out of the house and like
call him names from the window like le

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negra to Masa. Oh my god, I don't tell yeah, and then

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the street would all like laugh at
him. They would all just stand there

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and laugh, like no one would
help him mom. Yeah, And then

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like I said, like at school, he would get beat up, his

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mom would beat him up, his
siblings. He would like run away from

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home all the time. But then
you know, he's a small child.

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He couldn't survive on his own,
so he'd go back, especially when he

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was like hungry and had no food. So yeah, there was there was

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no no, like nothing good,
I guess in his life. When he

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was five, his brothers for some
reason blamed him for killing the family dog.

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He swears that he never touched that
dog. He never hurt the dog

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or anything, but they blamed him
and then as a punishment they raped him.

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Oh my god, this is horrible. This is truly disgusting. And

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from that moment on, he he
blamed that incident for his hatred of gay

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people, which doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense. Yeah, yeah,

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so like misplaced ainger. Really mm
hmm. His brothers were the ones

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who did this. Yeah. On
top of that, his oldest sister regularly

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sexually abused him. I'm sorry,
Like, this is horrible and what happened

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to these children that they enacted such
violence on each other? And there's either

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sibling Yeah, the parents probably,
I mean sounds like they are physically abusive

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as a whole, and then engaging
the violence in front of the kids.

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Yeah, just like like the most
dysfunctional a family could be and the worst

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possible like childhood or person could endure
it. Really. Yeah, as he

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grew up, siblings kept blaming him
for killing the dog and that he liked

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to hurt animals, but he never
had until like he just started to after

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they kept blaming him. What is
that? A there's a phrase where or

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someone tells you something so often that
you end up doing it. There's like

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a phrase for that, and I
can't think of it right now because I'm

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tired. Oh is there? Yeah, there is like a oh, self

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fulfilling prophecy there you go? Oh
my god? Yeah, oh, that's

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exactly what happened. Yeah, I
forgot about that, but yeah, that's

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what he did. And he would
do this whenever his mom would hurt him

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or his siblings. Then he would
go out into the street, find a

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dog or cat and torture them.
Horrible stuff. Yeah, you know.

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On top of all that, like
mental illness disorders they ran in the family.

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His oldest sister, the one that
was abusing him, was placed in

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a psychiatric hospital. She was diagnosed
with schizophrenia. Another sister of his died

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by suicide. Another material aunt was
placed in a psychiatric hospital. His own

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brother, Viyron, was diagnosed with
schizophrenia. Sadly, he was only diagnosed

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after he went on a three day
killing spree in Japan. Wow, in

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twenty fifteen. How do you get
to Japan? I don't know. I

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tried to find info. I mean, I assume by flight, but like,

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I'm just curious as to why he
was there. Maybe a tourist visa.

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I'm not sure, because yeah,
I couldn't find everything that I read

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about the case. Just mentioned it, but I couldn't find more on it.

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Interesting, very weird, Yeah,
but you know it's also weird is

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that later, Pedro also wanted to
go to Japan. Hmmm, and like

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that's why he changed his name from
his last name to Nataka. Oh,

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but this was his brother went there
after he's he wanted to So I don't

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know, it was very weird.
Yeah that sounds weird, but you know,

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all this to say that just like
a very mess up family life and

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like these like obviously not everyone with
these mental issue mental health issues, they

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go out and like do these things. But obviously when there's no support,

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when there's no treatment, when there's
already like exposure to abuse and abuse,

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the situations, things are gonna get
worse, right, So but that's not

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to say that you know, everyone
these diagnosis are going to go out and

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do these things. This is what
happened in his family and they all happened

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to have these types of diagnosies as
well. So at seventeen, Pedro he

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tried to join the Peruvian military.
According to someone who knew him from his

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childhood, The newspaper said, like
childhood friend, but he had no friends,

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so oh, probably one of his
childhood bullies. Yeah. Probably.

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Pedro only joined the military to gain
power and authority and to quote get rid

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of God's enemies. So okay,
not good. Although I can think of

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a few people when I was in
the military that were like, who joined

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the military for the same reasons?
Yeah, basically like, oh, I

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only joined to kill people, And
I'm like, uh, oh, I

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joined because they wanted the GI bill
money. You're like, oh my god,

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why am I here? Yeah,
oh my god, what have I

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done? So yeah, don't think
of veteran for their service. Okay,

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anyway, because maybe they joined for
the since seriously, but yeah, that's

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apparently why Pedro joined. And two
months after enlisting he was kicked out.

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Hey, at least they caught him. Yeah, there was like testing done.

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He was diagnosed with paranoid schistophrenia and
psychopathic tendencies, and they deemed him

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too dangerous to be in the military
and that he would be a dangerous to

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society if he were to be trained
to like fight and learn weapons and all

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that, which, yeah, I
mean, he said he joined to get

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rid of God's enemies and for power. So he turned even more dark after

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he was kicked out, because this
is you know, what he wanted.

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He contemplated killing himself after he was
kicked out, but then he didn't do

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it. He instead turned to killing
others. And so he was seventeen at

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this point, and he claims that
his first murder was at seventeen, but

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there's no records of this. There
was no body ever found, so who

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knows, who knows, but that's
what he says, and so years go

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by, years go by. This
was like in the nineties when he tried

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to join He's seventeen and that didn't
work out. He claims to have killed

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someone, but you know, there
was no one ever found. In two

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thousand and five, it might have
been a little before that, two thousand

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and four, two thousand and five, that's when he tried to go to

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Japan. He paid a Japanese citizen
eight hundred soles so just the money in

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Peru to adopt him as an adult. Interesting. He paid him how much,

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seven hundred eight hundred so less oh
eight hundred, okay, which is

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today like two hundred something dollars okay. I don't know if the price difference,

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if it was different like the conversion
or whatever back then, but he

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paid, you know, that much
money to try to have a Japanese citizen

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adopt him. Then he could get
his papers and moved to Japan. I'm

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wondering if that's what his brother did
later. Maybe yeah, because his brother

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was there in twenty fifteen and this
is two thousand and five, so I

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don't know, but something happened,
it didn't work out. I'd read somewhere

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else though, that paying a Japanese
citizen to adopt someone is a thing that

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a lot of like criminals do in
Peru to flee. Really, yeah,

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that's what one source said. Interesting. Yeah, I feel like I need

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to read up more on this Peru
in Japan connection because it sounds like there's

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something going on there that I am
not aware about. Yeah, right,

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right, that's what I thought too. Something something is weird there that I

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don't know. But this fell through. I don't know what happened. I

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couldn't find anything. And it honestly
seems like this was like the trigger for

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him, because all the murders that
are known, all the bodies that were

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found, happened after this. Hmm. So like maybe like that was the

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last straw, Like he said,
like all things never go my way.

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Life is unfair. So his His
first known victim was twenty six year old

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Carlos Dilberto Merino, a Pedro was
at El Choro de chan Kai. I

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think is how you pronounce that it's
a beach in Peru. And he was

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there when he crossed paths with Carlos, and with that warning, he just

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shot him in the app and then
took his money. And he claims to

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have killed Carlos because he thought Carlos
was gonna rob him, but he was

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the one who robbed, rummed Carlos. It doesn't make sense. I don't

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think that we can make sense of
anything. This person says, like nothing's

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gonna make sense. Yeah, yeah, And this happened on January first,

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two thousand and five, and then
more than a year goes by before the

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next victim, which honestly seems like
a long time for a serial killer.

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Yeah, more than a year later, May thirty first, two thousand and

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six, he came across fifty year
old Teresa Cortina Abad he shot her twice

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in the head, and he claims
to have shot her because she was smoking

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cigarettes. This is just ridiculous,
like, just don't even offer an explanation.

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Was going to be that silly,
like yeah, and then two months

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later, so now this is quicker, and this is like it's happening faster,

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escalating, Yeah, escalating. Thank
you, you're welcome, thank you

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for smart word. Well, I
am an educated Latina. Yes, you

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have a degree educate la. I
have two degrees too. Yeah. Correction,

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correction, you're right, you're right. Two months later, on July

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twenty twenty six, he shot forty
four year old waltere Saldo Sorio again in

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the head. Walt, he made
it to the hospital, but he died

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like moments later. I mean,
it's just awful, like just straight up

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shooting them in the head, like
yeah, like he's executing, like I

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don't know, yeah, but it
did. This will become his moo.

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Like the first person he shot was
in the in the chests or abdomen something

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like that, abdomen. But then
after that all of them are in the

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head. Wow. And he claims
to have killed Walter because he was a

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criminal. Oh he somehow had knowledge
of this, you know, I don't

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know, maybe he did like some
stock. I don't know how he knew

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this, Like interesting, yeah,
let's see. And then so that was

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Jue. What was I July?
That was July twentieth. So then a

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month later, not even less than
a month later August eighth, two dozen

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six, So like what two weeks? When was the other one July twenty

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eight, two dozen six, Oh
yeah, and then the next one after

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that August eighth, two dozen six, yeah, like about yeah. The

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body of thirty year old Herrado Leonardo
Cruz Libya was found in the bottom of

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a water well, so we don't
know when they were actually killed. They

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were just found on August eighth,
two dozen six, and he had been

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shot again in the head. Bablo
claims to have killed Herradlo because apparently they

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were robbing people together. This was
like their quote unquote business, and Bedro

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told Herradlo he didn't want to do
it anymore, and head Outdo threatened to

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like blackmail him because he was like, well, we've been stealing together.

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If you like stop doing this,
I'll turn you in. We'll go to

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jail together. So we killed them. Wow. And then ten days later,

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so like again, it's shortening this
like time period mm hmm, definitely

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escalating. Yeah. Hm. Ten
days later, the body of twenty one

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year old Carlos wu Walter Trasona Toledo
was found. He again was found with

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the gunshot to the head, and
Pedro claims to have killed him because he

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saw him doing drugs. Leave people, be let them smoke cigarettes, let

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them steal, let them use drugs. Yeah, you're not who gave him

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the right to like decide this is
wrong? Yeah? What do they say,

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the judge executioner and like jury executioner. Yeah, that's not a thing,

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right, you're not fucking Batman.
Batman is wrong. Batman was wrong.

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Yeah, worst superhero out there,
one hundred percent agree. So that

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was on August eighteenth, So just
ten days later, is what you had

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said? Yeah, yeah, ten
days later. So the next day after

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Carlos was found, there was another
body found. This was fifteen year old

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Maria Ronica, and she was again
shot in the head. According to Pedro,

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he had gone to this like Ali
or whatever, this area that was

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known for how many people use drugs
there, and he went there looking for

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people to kill. Maria had like
walked up and he just shot her.

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And so, according to him,
he feels horrible about this because she was

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fifteen and not a drug user,
so she didn't deserve it. According to

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his own moral calculator, this is
one reason you don't go just shooting anybody

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because one you don't know what they
have done or haven't done. And when

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you put that on yourself, like
you're gonna get it wrong sometimes, Yeah,

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which he did. But then he
was like, but you know what,

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the ends justify the means, so
like her, her death served a

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greater good. Oh my god,
how like No, then it would be

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a couple of months. Maybe he
really did feel mad and he didn't go

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out to like kill because it was
two months before the next victim was found.

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This was November eighteen twenty six.
The body of Ugo Vilches Palomino was

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discovered and he again was shot in
the head, and Pedro had stolen his

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cell phone and a CD player Sony
CD player. And the reason Pedro killed

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him, according to Pedro, all
of this is, according to him,

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because he wanted his CD player.
That's the real reason. No, the

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reason he gave is because he wanted
to sleep with UGO's wife. Hey,

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like this time he has no like
supposed moral superiority for his crime. So

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that's true. Wow, yeah,
that part is true. The next day,

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so they're getting like closer together.
The next day weed mad Jesus Munno's

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Villanueva was found dead, and weed
Mad was a cosmetologist. Pedro had heard

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rumors of Weedmar being a sex worker, and according to his moral compass or

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whatever, this is like wrong,
he needs to get rid of all sex

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workers because God told him to write, so that includes weed Man. And

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again he only heard rumors of this. So he went to the salon where

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Weedmud worked and he asked for sex
and he would give the money for this,

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right, And so when Weedman pulled
his pants down, Pedro shot him

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in the neck. Oh my god, and then stole his money, Like

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how okay, how is it okay
for you to see and do all this

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other stuff? And besides the killing, of course you know what I mean.

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But like, of course, well, because he in his head is

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just to find the killing, right. This is terrible, it really is.

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So a few days after that,
three other bodies were found, and

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like no one there, I couldn't
find like the dates of when they were

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actually killed, just like whenever the
bodies were found later. So three days

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after weed Mad, three bodies were
found together. This was thirty two year

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old Luis Enrique servantees twenty four year
old Pedro O Margarera and twenty two year

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old Enoch lisel Felix Soria and so
Pedro nasaka he or sorry naka whatever.

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Pedro I don't know his last name, fuck him. He has like two

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last names and three or even know
whatever. He sucks. So he killed

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them because he wanted their taxi,
I think is the real reason. But

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the reason that he like gave is
because according to him, they were using

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their taxi to assault others. But
he saw their taxi about a week after

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that, we can have December ten, two thousand and six, nell Ca

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Ca Leonelo was found dead again shut
in the head like the others, and

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Pedro had stolen his bike. And
the next victims they were found after nel

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so after the tenth of December,
but before the twenty fourth, but there

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was no date. Okay, so
they were Nasadio Julianta, Maris Perez,

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dider Jesu Sabatta Dulanto was with him. They were killed together and Pedro came

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across them making love at an irrigation. Canal leave them alone? Yeah,

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leave them alone, like if they're
on housed and doing this. They were

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in a private location. But like
the thing is that bether would go looking

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for these people to kill them.
He goes looking, yeah, like he

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goes to like see the locations to
look for vulnerable people to kill. Yeah,

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and because you know, another group
of people that he quote unquote needs

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to get rid of are homeless people, gay people, sex workers. Those

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were like the what makes up the
people that he killed. But yeah,

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like you said, vulnerable people.
So he came across them and you know

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that gising canal and he shot them
both in the head, and then he

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stole their shoes and money, which
was like thirty four dollars, like not

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a lot of money between them.
But it's like, oh, he can

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steal and he can kill, but
like no one else can do anything.

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Right. Then on December twenty four, two don six, he killed Agustine

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Andres Magina and Louise Melgarejo Science.
He shot them both in the head and

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he killed them because they were alcoholics. Oh my god. His final victim

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was seventeen year old Nicolas Tolentino purisaka
Gamboa, and this happened on December twenty

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seven, two and six. He
shot him in the head because he was

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smoking drugs. Wow. Yeah,
And these are his known victims. He

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claims to have killed at least twenty
five people and that he was not wrong

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for committing these murders, that God
told him to do this. He was

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doing God's work. He was doing
this to clean the streets. And like

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I said earlier, but all of
his victims were either sex workers, they

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were gay, or drug users,
or a combination of all three. So

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yeah, it just like whenever you
watch you know, shows like Criminal Minds

406
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and stuff like that, there's always
like a person that's like they had a

407
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:11.880
name for this type of serial killer
that I don't remember. I tell me

408
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:14.480
why, I'm looking that up right
now? Oh you are? Yeah,

409
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.119
yeah, I want people are saying
vigilante killer. But it has a name

410
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:21.400
like on the different name they use
on the show. Yeah, like almost

411
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:26.319
like a purifier or something. And
it's not Angel of Death because that tends

412
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:30.720
to be a doctors and nurses.
Yeah, but he called himself the Apostle

413
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:34.160
of Death. So but yeah,
he thought he was doing God's work.

414
00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:40.200
And he used a nine milimeter pistol
for all of this, and he made

415
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:45.400
like handmade rubber silencers from slippers whenever
he went out killing, like he I

416
00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.480
don't know how many slippers he had? I'm sorry what he did? What

417
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.400
he used a nine millimeter pistol for
all the killing? Uh huh, but

418
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:57.039
he made rubber, handmade rubber silencers
with slippers. Oh it's slippers. Oh

419
00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:00.200
wow. He only heard slippers because
I was still looking up that name,

420
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.440
that term, and then I was
he does what now? And then that's

421
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.480
why I asked, And that makes
sense? Yeah, yeah, because like

422
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:11.119
Angel of Death, like we were
saying, it's usually like a medical related

423
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.640
where they're like supposedly doing mercy killings. I guess would it be like mission

424
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:19.799
oriented, but there's like a I
think so, Yeah, I think that's

425
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:22.200
it, because you know, he
said he was he had a mission from

426
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:26.119
God. Yeah. Yeah, and
yeah, it's not unheard of obviously,

427
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.599
like it happens all the time.
He was captured on the twenty eighth of

428
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:33.480
December in two thoy and six.
I'm not sure. I could not find

429
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.400
anywhere. None of the articles in
Spanish or English like said why like how

430
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.400
he was captured? Yeah, yeah, I don't know like how it came

431
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:45.720
to be, but he was in
a shootout with police at his workplace,

432
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.960
Like I don't know if they like
investigated. They came up with him as

433
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:52.880
a suspect and maybe went to arrest
him, and then there was a shootout.

434
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:55.880
That's what I was gonna guess right
now. Yeah, that's what some

435
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:59.559
guess that they did their investigation,
and exactly what you just said is what

436
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:02.799
I was about. That's unnecessary.
You just said it, Okay, go

437
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:07.319
on, Oh my god. Yeah. So but they caught him at the

438
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.680
perfect time. It worked out for
everyone because he had been planning on blowing

439
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:18.400
up a nightclub on New Year's That's
so weird because I feel like I never

440
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:22.319
really hear of that much of a
shift in like a way of killing.

441
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:25.640
Yeah, yeah, no, you're
right, it didn't make sense. But

442
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:27.319
they found a grenade in his house
that he was gonna do it with.

443
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:30.799
Wow, and this is what he
told them. But yeah, it's such

444
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:36.599
a weird shift and escalation I think, or like a difference in killing.

445
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:41.680
Yeah, unless like somehow he had
gotten so like bored with his and it's

446
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.440
horrible obviously, like, yeah,
someone to even get to that point maybe

447
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.599
because like this is not fun enough, like I had to take it up

448
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.200
a notch. Yeah, I don't
know. It's certainly strange because then,

449
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:55.000
yeah, the way he killed everyone
was always like shooting them in the head,

450
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:59.119
which does give off like execution vibes, which would make sense if he's

451
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:02.839
like doing this as a mission from
God supposedly. Yeah, So then to

452
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:06.519
shift to blowing up a nightclub is
weird. It just like it doesn't fit

453
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:10.720
everything else he was doing at all. But I guess if you thought about

454
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:14.880
it from his point of view,
you could argue that people in nightclubs are

455
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:19.079
up to no good. They're what
is that word a moral Yeah, like

456
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:23.240
dirty according to him heathens heathens.
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, then

457
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.400
he would get more of them at
the same time if he did it with

458
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:30.119
that way. So yeah, I
guess terrible either way. He was tried,

459
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.200
found guilty, and sentenced to death, and then like his punishment is

460
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:37.279
the way he was going to be
killed was a gunshot to the head,

461
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:38.680
which, like, I didn't know
they could just say, oh wow,

462
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.480
we're gonna kill you the same way
you've been killing victims. But that's what

463
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:48.079
happened. I've heard of places that
do that. Yeah, I didn't know.

464
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.319
So he received this punishment. He
had been determined to fit to stand

465
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:55.920
trial. They said, you're actually
not schizophrenic, even though you've received this

466
00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:00.480
diagnosis before, and instead they said
that he had an en ti social personality

467
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:07.799
disorder. He had no remorse,
He felt justifiing what he was doing.

468
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.359
I mean he said that yeah,
yeah, again and again, and so

469
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:14.680
that was the sentence he received.
He went to jail. But then like

470
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:16.920
later, while he was waiting,
like for the death sentence to happen to

471
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:21.480
take place, he tried to kill
himself. So then they like redid testing

472
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:24.720
I don't know what, psychiatric testing, and decided that he was actually unfit

473
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:30.920
stand trial and he was paranoid schistophrenic, and so instead he was sentenced to

474
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:35.160
life in prison instead of being killed, instead of a death sentence. And

475
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:40.319
he they did this because like the
maximum sentence was thirty five years to life,

476
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:44.200
but like the thirty five years were
up and he would be out and

477
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:45.559
if you're young enough at the time
of your crime, you can get out

478
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:49.960
and keep killing, right mm hmm. But he said again and again,

479
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:52.960
like if he was let out,
he was going to continue his mission from

480
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:54.920
God. So he's still in jail
and they were like, we're not letting

481
00:32:54.960 --> 00:33:00.039
you out. It sounds like the
best option for everybody. Yeah. Yeah,

482
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:07.200
that was the apostle of death Man
just just messed up and disturbing.

483
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:10.839
Yeah, someday I'm going to stop
doing true crime and just go back to

484
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:15.240
the hunter stories. Yeah, you've
been on a true crime kick. I

485
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:19.640
just keep finding cases I didn't know
happened, and I'm like, oh this,

486
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:22.240
I don't want to say like,
oh this is like this sounds cool

487
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.319
obviously, but like, oh this
is interesting and I didn't know it happened.

488
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:30.079
Yeah, because you know, we
always hear the same ones like that's

489
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.359
true. Yeah, I don't know, Jeffrey Dahmer, you know, like

490
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:36.480
all the same ones. Yeah,
same old, same old. I do

491
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:44.160
think it's interesting to talk about the
aspects of like child abuse, horrible childhood,

492
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:49.200
that things. Usually these type of
killers have mental health issues. How

493
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:53.160
all of those things coincide, Yes, coincide? Yeah, no, I

494
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:58.640
agree. I also find it interesting
the differences in like the judicial systems,

495
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:00.799
Like hear how they decide I did
that they were just gonna shoot him in

496
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.799
the head, like I know they
used to do that like years ago,

497
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.079
like years ago, probably like hundreds
of years ago. Here. Yeah,

498
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:13.239
I need to stop saying, yeah, wow, I was watching oh,

499
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:16.199
because I had just posted something to
uh No One and that I was watching

500
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:21.239
the reel because I got a little
notification that said it was more watched than

501
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:24.639
our usual reels or whatever. And
then at the end of the whatever reel

502
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:30.440
it was on no one else in
we both and by saying yeah, yeah,

503
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:32.360
yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm
like, damn, we do that

504
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:36.920
too much. We do. That's
how you can tell that we're from California.

505
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.639
I think. Is that a Californian
thing? I heard somewhere I heard

506
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:43.960
I don't know, Like do you
say yeah a lot? Yeah, like

507
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:46.360
no, yeah, yeah, like
you can have a full conversation, oh

508
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:52.960
yeah yeah, and you would't understand
each other. Yeah yeah. So this

509
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.800
one's gonna get to my nerves now
for now. Then I'm going to go

510
00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:01.559
back to using it. Yeah see
see anyway, see see. Okay,

511
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:06.360
So yeah that brings us to the
end of another depressing episode. Uh do

512
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:12.320
you have any spooky recommendations? Well, speaking of true crime, I started

513
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:16.679
watching American Nightmare on Netflix. Have
you heard of it? I have a

514
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:19.920
little bit. I don't know if
you remember, because I don't know.

515
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.639
I'm pretty sure it was And that's
why we drink that covered it, Like,

516
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.719
I don't remember how long ago it
was, because as I was watching

517
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:29.840
it, I was like, this
sounds hello familiar, and then I realized

518
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.679
that I had listened to a podcast
about it. It's good. I like

519
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:38.199
it so far. It's interesting Denise
Huskins and Aaron Quinn. Yeah, huh,

520
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:42.400
I do not remember this? Oh
wait, no I do. I

521
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:47.360
do vaguely. Is this where they
were accused of staging their kidnapping? Yeah,

522
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:52.880
and they actually wore victims. Yes, if I'm remembering right, which

523
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:57.079
I think I am. That's right. Christine covered it and that's how you

524
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:00.400
drink. Yeah, so yeah,
I recognized it as I was watching What

525
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:05.559
Child is that? Yes, my
child has found me. He's about to

526
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:07.840
knock over my light. Oh my
god. Okay, well I've lost my

527
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:13.480
light, so I guess. But
yeah, that's it. I started watching

528
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:15.679
that and I'm on the third.
I think it's only a three parter or

529
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:20.960
something, four episodes maybe, so
I'm like almost done with it. It's

530
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.360
pretty interesting, pretty good. It's
definitely more in depth than a podcast could

531
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:28.360
be, and the victims are interviewed
as part of it. So I really

532
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:31.599
like that. So dennyse Tuskins and
what erin? I think his name was,

533
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:36.320
Yeah, yeah, Aeron Quinn.
So they're interviewed in the documentary.

534
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:38.719
Okay, yeah, I'll have to
watch it. Someone left a comment on

535
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:43.760
one of our episodes on Spotify saying
we should check out thirty coins on Max.

536
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:47.679
Some of us don't have Max.
You have my info, dude.

537
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:52.039
I try to log in like two
times already and it doesn't work. Oh,

538
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:53.800
I don't know what kind of shit
you gave me. I don't know

539
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:57.679
what is the phrase we were saying
before. I don't know what in the

540
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.760
shit you gave me? Oh for
the Patroon episode? Yeah, a shit?

541
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:04.440
You not? Oh? Yeah,
so I wasn't saying it right?

542
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:07.559
No, you what the shit is
what you said? What in the shit

543
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:10.679
did you give me? Just making
things up? I can't. Yeah.

544
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:15.199
Someone made a comment that we should
check it out, and I have a

545
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:19.639
problem because like new shows like two
thousand and I don't know twelve of an

546
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:22.079
end up. It seems like new
shows are eight episodes per season, but

547
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:25.880
every episode is an hour and a
half long. Yeah, and I can't

548
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:30.159
commit to it. It's like a
movie. Yeah, even though I will

549
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:35.079
rewatch seasons of the same episode.
But that's like there were like forty something

550
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:38.840
minutes, you know, yeah,
or even twenty something like depending on the

551
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:42.679
show. Plus you know it's gonna
end, you know, has a final

552
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.360
thing. But you know what happens
to me a lot is I'll find a

553
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:46.280
new show and I'm like, oh
my god, this is so good,

554
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:50.159
and then there's like talks of about
a second season, and then it never

555
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:52.400
happens. It's never even new.
Yeah. Yeah, I hate that,

556
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:57.280
and then I feel personally betrayed because
then you never find out what's gonna happen,

557
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:01.480
just like with the Midnight Club Los
A Spookies send A created a diet.

558
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:05.199
Yeah. So yeah, every time, like it's I'm afraid, I'm

559
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:07.000
afraid to commit to any show.
Yeah, I get it, because I

560
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:08.920
don't know if it's gonna get canceled. I don't know if it's going to

561
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:14.960
finish, but I will I will
try maybe check out three Coins. I

562
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:20.280
have been listening to a podcast in
Spanish called criminal perfil I think is what

563
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.320
it's called. That's a true crime
podcast because I listen to the episode about

564
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:29.199
the person we just talked about,
and they have Uriel from really they have

565
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:32.880
him reading like parts of like the
story basically, and I think everyone knows

566
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:37.360
by nowre that you love his voice. Yeah, yes, and I'm that's

567
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:38.880
with his voice. Yeah, but
yeah, I guess we can end here,

568
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:44.679
Karmen. Do you have anything to
plug? Yes, so if you

569
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:49.000
enjoy listening to me and Christina.
We have two other podcasts. He studied

570
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:52.000
as Unknown. We talk about Latin
American history, Dori's about resistance, power,

571
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:55.920
colonism, et cetera. Good stuff, good stuff. We also have

572
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:04.960
nove LAO everywa rewatch podcasts of Teresa, and we also have a few other

573
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:08.159
things that we've watched. Like I
said, Selena, this Netflix series had

574
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:15.000
a lot of fun talking about that, and we're introduced a new segment chronically

575
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:19.559
Online Goo where we talked about the
internet, Internet and whatnot, and that's

576
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:24.039
gonna become its own podcast once we
finish rewatching Tesa, which we're almost done.

577
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:28.440
Yes, and my child is here. I'm gonna keep my camera off

578
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:30.960
for this part, Carmen, if
you want to say bye for me,

579
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:37.320
thank you everyone for listening, and
remember don't go to puppet shows. Nice

580
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:44.199
callback all right, and then just
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581
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582
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