July 3, 2026

El Callejon del Beso and Other Legends From Guanajuato

El Callejon del Beso and Other Legends From Guanajuato
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Carmen shares the legend of El Callejon del Beso, El Grito de la Valenciana and La Casa de la Tia Aura, all from the Mexican state of Guanajuato. Cristina shares the recent case of a hermana buscadora from Penjamo, Guanajuato. They end with spooky recommendations, carmen's rec: Molka by Monika Kim and Cristina's rec: I Am Frankelda, the 2025 Mexican stop motion movie. First, they read a listener story.

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Hello, Hello, this is Christina and Carmen and this is

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another episode of his Pooky Tells, the podcast for all

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things spooky, myths, legends, haunted places, entry crime in Latin America.

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Today's topic, Yes, but before we get to that, we

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have a listener story. And if you have a story

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And we have more than one story and you already

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sends us one. Send us more. Send us all your stories. Yeah,

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all of them, the theos and tias and thugs. Do

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they have stories, the primas, the premes like, send them

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to us, all of them without their mission. That's fine,

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they don't need to know. No change our names unless

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you also can recommend the podcast to them. Then they'll

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know true true, then get their permission. Yeah. Today's story

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is from Judy, who has sent us another story before,

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which was about her reflection in her windows, smiling at

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her super scary, so creepy. Yeah, and so this is

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the same story from the perspective of her sister, Chris.

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So here it goes. We were raised to believe that

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animals consense things humans can't, especially when it comes to

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the supernatural. When we were kids, our dad once told

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us that a previous owner had been murdered and that

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his family found his body in the attic. One night,

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Judy and I were visiting and watching TV in the

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living room when all five of our dogs suddenly walked

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over to the hallway. Curious, we followed them. Then, in

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perfect unison, all the dogs looked up at the ceiling

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right where the attic hatch was. They all had the

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same intense stare, and they were very still. I turned

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to ask Judy, what do you think they're looking at?

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But when I turned to face her, she was gone.

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I started to panic, thinking something had happened to her,

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or worse, that something had taken her. I was walking

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all through the house whispering her name as loudly as

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I could. I have no clue how it was spring

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because you were scared. Probably by that time, the dogs

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had gone back to acting completely normal. Judy's dog wandered

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over to the window and started whining. I ran to

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the front door, opened it, and there was Judy just

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standing outside with her back turned towards the front door.

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I rushed over, spun her around, and asked, how did

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you get out here? Apparently the second she saw the

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dogs looking up at the attic, she bolted outside the door. Wow. Okay,

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so this is Chris who saw Judy and then Judy

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was gone, and then she was like, Judy, where'd you go?

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And then Judy was outside. Yeah, but she never saw

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her like run out right right out there. She was

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just gone, yeah, wow, strange. And we had all the

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dogs for staring up at the same what was up there?

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And the dad said there was a body up there,

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so that's probably what they were staring at. I don't

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like that, No, no, not at all. Okay, should we

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get into the legends that you have for us from

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the state of Guanajuato. We shall. We've already done some

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Guanauato legends separately and other episodes we just kind of

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had like a fully dedicated Guanauato episode. So if you're like,

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why didn't they talk about this legend and it's like

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one of the most famous ones. We've already done it.

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How can they do talking about Momias? It's like, yeah,

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because we have a whole episode called Yes, Yeah, and

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it was fun. It was and sad. Actually don't remember.

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I should probably listen to it, yeah, because it's just

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like those people are up there and they've been up

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there for so long, and it's like there's like a

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little baby mummy. And then there was that one that

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they had like chained up like a bruca but like

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I remember that, they're like making me stories up. I

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don't know, it's some strange Yeah. And then we also

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talked about the Puppets, the Haunted Puppets and Laos, which

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is like the other very famous Manatos storyments, which yeah,

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that was like I don't know, episode like five or something.

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Oh really because like it was early yeah, early, So

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that's why we're not talking about those today. Yeah. But

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our first legend is aka the Alleyway and the Kiss.

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Have you heard of this? I love an Alleyway. There's

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like a lot of gayehon this gay daa, but have

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you heard of this gayekon? No? It's very famous, actually,

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actually heard of it before this, I think I have. Yeah,

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it's because I'm like, am I thinking about this is

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the kiss? Yeah? I know, I know when I don't think, so,

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I hope not. I don't remember talking about it. I

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just like have seen the pictures of it and heard

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of it maybe, yeah, okay, okay, Well, I mean you're

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all Sharon, and you let me know if you think

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you covered it before. But I don't remember hearing someone.

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Someone will let us know if I don't, so yeah, okay.

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So I saw a couple of different versions of this legend,

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some with the couple being named Carmen and Louise and

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a gang because that's our dad's name and our brother's

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name and my name. Yeah, I don't like that at all.

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Oh yeah, And then other the other version, the couple

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was Anna and Carlos. So let's go with that version.

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Let's go with that one. Yeah. It was said that

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Anna's father was a controlling Spaniard man oh okay, turmined

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to marry her off to a wealthy man, to the

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point where he would do whatever was necessary to stop

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her from speaking to anyone he deemed too poor. One day,

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Anna was strolling along the streets of Juanauato when she

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met a handsome but humble miner by the name of

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Carlos Minor as a working in the mines. Yeah, not

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like age Carlos, but Carlos at mines in the in

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the mines, in the mines. Yeah, and it was love

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at first sight. To the dismay of Anna's father, Anna

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and Carlos met in secret, but he caught them after

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hearing rumors about their meetups, and he locked Anna in

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her bedroom, going to marry her off to an old,

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rich nobleman from Spain, but Carloso. He went to visit

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Anna at her house and noticed that her bedroom sat

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in a super narrow alleyway and within touching distance there

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was another home with the balcony facing her bedroom window.

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I do have a picture if you are wondering what

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that looks like. Okay, but basically, the window and the

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balcony face each other, teparate home face each other, and yeah,

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they're within like touching distance. I love that. Yeah. Resolved

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to see Anna through this balcony, Carlos went to the

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owner of the home and offered to purchase it. After

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some haggling in which the owner of the home kept

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raising the price. Carlos was able to purchase the home,

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but he spent all the money he had on it. Now,

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the couple, they were able to see each other every

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night until now the faithful night when Anna's father caught

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them while they were making out. Oh, they were kissing,

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I just expressed and making out. Yeah. Well, there was

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a window in the balcony. There was not two balconies.

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Oh okay, okay, So but like one was in the window,

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what the other was in the balcony and he saw

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them making out? Yeah? Was hewn? Was he outside when

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he saw them? He looked at me, He's like, what

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the fuck? No, he was in the room and he

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kills I feel like that would have been Yeah, shut

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up and let me finish the story. Go ahead, your face. Yeah. No,

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he he saw them kissing after he strictly forbaded and

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locked her in her room, and he was so angry

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that he acted out violently and he killed her. Some

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say Carlos trying to say by jumping from the balcony

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into her room, but instead he fell onto the floor,

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crashed onto the third step of the stairs, and broke

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his neck, dying. Oh my god. Yeah, it was so

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close he could have just like climbed over, unless unless

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her dad was like like trying to like, yeah, he's

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climbing on. Her dad is like on the other side,

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like no, it could be I don't know, because close

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enough for them to kiss. But he just stud just

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like step over. Yeah, but it felt well, and his

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dad was like like the leg was coming over and

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he's like nope, he just like, yeah, pushed his leg off,

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you know, so who knows. Yeah, but wow, what uh

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like Like that's sad, but what I like fucking looty

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tunes type death like yeah. Wow. Others say Carlos was

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overcome with grief after losing the love of his life,

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and he ended his own life at his job. The

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Valenciana Mine, Oh okay, either way, sad. Yeah. The Carmen

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and Louis version says that Carmen died in Louis's hands

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after her father killed her, and she said goodbye with

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the kiss. Okay, that's a little better. Yeah. It is

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now said that couples who visit the alley stand on

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the third step of the stairs, conveniently painted red easy

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to find, yeah and kiss enjoy a lifetime of luck

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and love. Okay, I'm about to go there. And another

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version says that couples should kiss each other on the

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third step to be granted fifteen years of good luck,

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and couples who don't kiss on the third step will

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have seven years of bad luck. Oh you have on

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the third step, you can't go there. Get on the

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third step and not kiss. If you get on the

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third step, you have to kiss. But also don't get

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on like the first step and kiss. No, it has

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to be the third one. And it is paying red

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for your convenience. Don't want to be curssed. Look for

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the red step. Yeah. Yeah, Wow. It's a very cute

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alley because when I quit, those known for their colorful,

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colorful houses. So the house when the house is orange

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and red and the other one's pink and red, Oh

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my god, that sounds awesome. Yeah. And the alley is

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located in the Seerro de Nayo Hill neighborhood. Okay, okay,

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And speaking of the Valentiana mine where Carlos where Carlos worked,

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m there's a legend from there, is it him? No,

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it's not him? Okay, e separate legend. Yeah. Yeah, it's

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known as Eligito de la Valentiana. It is said that

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the day before Independentia on the fifteenth. So the day

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before the independence to on the fifteenth, Yeah, because like

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I don't want to make it sound like I'm saying

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independence day was on the fifteenth. Oh, I was talked

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about like the day before the day of independence. Yeah,

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the day of independence is the sixteenth, and so this

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was on the fifteenth, yes, yes, okay, okay. So on

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the fifteenth of September, a painful screen could be heard

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from a minor in the tunnels of the Valentiana mine.

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Some say it's the ghost of a man who died

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in a collapse in the mine the night before the

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famous Grito that ignited the War of Independence. The Valentiina

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mine was discovered in seventeen sixty and like many other minds,

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it quickly became a sight of expectation and which indigenous

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and African slaves were forced to work under brutal conditions.

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And it's said that on that day, September fifteenth, eighteen ten,

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a group of miners were working on an unstable shaft

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when a young miner begged the overseer to let them

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off early because there was rumor spreading about unrest in

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Jato because of the war, the coming War of Independence.

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But his pleas were ignored and he died later that night,

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buried under the collapse of the shaft. Oh wow. And

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as I mentioned the beginning of this legend, ever since

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this young miner's death, it said that his scream can

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be heard on the eve of Independence Day. Oh wow. Okay,

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Next we have La Casa de Latia Aura. Latia Aura

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was a rich Spaniard woman who was said to be

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very generous with the people of and so this made

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her well known in the community and left to her

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being known as Latiaa. The people knew she practiced spiritism

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and that her house was inhabited by ghosts, But what

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they didn't know was Lathia's horrendous nature. It is said

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that she tortured people in the basement of her home

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and that the ghosts of her victims still haunt the house.

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And why was she doing all this torturing? I don't know.

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I tried looking around, and this sounds like the one

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about the Tia something in Mexico. The hard thing about

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looking for this legend was that you can do tours there.

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It's well it's a museum now and you can go there.

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And so I kept seeing like only websites about the

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museum and like how to book a ticket there and

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only that. Yeah, so that's one version, because they want

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you to go there to learn the story. Yeah, yeah,

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I think that's why. So that's one version of the story.

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But the home was built in eighteen oh five by

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out As relatives who lived in the area already, and

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then she arrived in eighteen forty from Spain. Oh well,

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that's why she was searchering people because she was from Spain.

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Could be? Could it be? And so this other version

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says that during the construction of the home, mini workers

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quit because they heard their names being whispered, that lights

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would unexpectedly be turned off. And later, once a home

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was completed, two women witnessed the spirit of a woman

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dressed in older style clothing, like we're talking eighteen hundred,

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So what was she dressed, Like, I don't know, seventeen

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hundreds whatever the Spanish it's a difference between seventeen hundreds

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and eighteen hundreds. Well, yeah, the fashion changed, yeah to

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something what I don't know, Yeah, but they knew. So

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she was dressed in an older style of clothing and

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a white hat and she was witnessed by two different

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women in the home. And according to another version of legend,

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the home is haunted because auDA's daughter, Christina, So the

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daughter of Christina was killed by her father. And it

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said that Christina's father became enraged when he learned of

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Christina's pregnancy and he he stoned her in the basement

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of the home. So unnecessary. Yeah, And it is said

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that Aura died shortly after. And after the deaths of

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Aura and Christina, the youngest daughter was killed by her

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husband because she was the sole heir to the home

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and he wanted to steal the home from her. After

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these horrific events, the home was abandoned for many years

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until it was rebuilt and turned to a museum. And

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today it is said that the whales of the victims

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killed in the home can be heard and shadows can

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be seen throughout the house and objects are moved around

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as well. Wow, so you can tour and along with

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these stories, they also have torture devices from the inquisition there. Yeah,

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I see, it's interesting. The different versions are so different,

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Like in one version, herself torture. Yeah, and then in

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others her daughter was killed and then she died shortly

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after of something. Yeah, and then the other daughter was killed.

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So what a difference there. Yeah, varies a lot. We'll

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never know which one is real. Yeah. Maybe she tortured

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people and died after her daughter was killed. I don't know. Yeah. Okay,

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So we'll take a little break here and then come

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back with the true crime case. Okay, and we're back

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the case that I'm sharing today. There's not a lot

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of information because it just happened, but because we're talking

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about Juan, it felt important to share even though there's

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so little about it. And also because like we're like

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at the December recording, in the middle of the World Cup,

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the Madres Buscaloras have been making headlines because they've been

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protesting amid the World Cup, and so this is this

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happened kind of in between all of this on January

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twenty third. Sorry, this is editing Christina from the future.

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I meant to say June twenty third, twenty twenty six,

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not January again, June twenty third, twenty twenty six. Okay,

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back to the episode. At around ten thirty pm, Patricia

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Negrete was leaving her job on her motorcycle. She worked

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as a cleaner in the Hospital Regional de Penamo and

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while heading home, as she crossed the go Yado Boulevard

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in La Colonia, Las Americas, two armed men who were

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also on a motorcycle approached her and then they fired

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multiple times and fled the scene. And that's almost what

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it's like knowing about what happened. That's it. Apparently there

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was like witnesses and security cameras which investigators have pulled

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hoping to find the identity of these men because they

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weren't even like masked apparently from what I read, And

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so they did that. And then other than that, that's

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all that is really known. And that Patricia was an ermanausgela,

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because a lot of the articles have referred to her

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as a madrevusgela. But she was not a mother looking

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for their child, her sister. She was looking for her sister,

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and she belonged to the search collective called Una prompt

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a promise to keep to fulfill something like that, one

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of those, yeah, And she joined this collective in twenty

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twenty one after her sister Laura and Helica went missing

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also in Penhamo, and she was recognized for her activism

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with the group. I watched a funeral procession where there's like,

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you know, the funeral car driving and the people walking

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behind the car, and in the video there's other buscaloos

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holding a banner, you know, with more missing people on

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the banner, and then the the video. I was like,

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why why did they write this? The video said and

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she never found her sister, And I was in shambles,

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and I was like, oh my god, well that's true,

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I know, but it was like, I don't know. Yeah, No,

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that's just so sad to read. And how many people

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have met the same thing that they never find what

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happened to her loved once before they themselves exactly die

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or are killed in many instances. Yeah, and we've talked

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about a few on our episodes. Yeah. Friends, family, and

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other members of the collective called for justice during the service,

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and they have stated their belief that this was a

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targeted killing. I don't doubt it. Ry it's not. It wouldn't.

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It's not new. This has happened to activists, including the

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searchers Los Bus Galores Balas about her death. The representative

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of another collective, the Saperecidos. Mare Olvera said, it is

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a deep wound for all the families who are looking

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for our loved ones. And mad is looking for her son, Salvramirez,

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who disappeared in twenty fifteen in the city of Guanajuato.

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Oh my god, so long ago. Yeah, yeah, and it's terrible.

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And oftentimes it's like you said, and we just said,

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these aren't targeted killings because whoever committed these acts. Usually

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the cartel in illusion with the government is responsible for

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these missing people, in this violence, and in order to

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stop the collectives from bringing attention to this, potentially bringing

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attention to the collusion, they're killed. Yeah. And on that note,

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Guanaquato itself, since twenty twenty six, Guanaquato itself has become

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increasingly dangerous, with Patricia being the fourth Buscala killed Tins

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one twenty twenty six. All this I saw two figures.

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One said January twenty twenty six, but the other said

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March twenty twenty six. But either way, they're like in

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the area. Yeah yeah, But like a couple of weeks

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ago there was a very violent like not war, but

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like five between cartels in Guanaquato. Where like like ten

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people were killed. I completely missed this in the news.

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Yeah yeah, So like all these like Patricia's death and

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then the ones I'm about to share are kind of

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like in the middle of all that also happening. But

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the states with the most like cartel presence and cartel

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fighting are obviously the most dangerous, and the one where

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the most people active is included are killed or disappeared.

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And that's what I think that has to that's playing

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a part here as well, because that just like all

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the violence just happened, and then also Patrisias what seemingly

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targeted killing, and then the ones I'm about to share

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that also happened like one after the other. So Patricia

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was June twenty third, twenty twenty six. Right on Monday

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June fifteenth, David Aramento Alvarado, a member of the Salamanca

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Unidos Buscandoidos so Sala Manca United Starchy for that disappeared,

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which is also another city in Juanato. He was kidnapped

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by four armed men traveling on two motorcycles and they

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held him for about twenty four hours in Latinaka, also

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in Talamanca, until they finally released him, according to witnesses,

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severely beaten and like scared and intimidated of course. And

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then a month before this, on May ninth, Patricia Acosta

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Rangquel and her daughter Katya Clay Juaregi, both members of

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the same collective as Dabid the Salamanca who need those

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Buscandos Parasitos, they were murdered while writing together on a motorcycle. Wow,

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and these are like scooters motorcycles that people just like

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used to travel on Mexico. Like being in you could

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see like a family five on one of these, someone

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holding a baby back there, Like this is just how

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people travel. But I it's just I don't know, like

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all of them were just either killed on a moorcycle

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or like taking off a moorcycle. You know, it's I

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don't know. Yeah, well what's a common way to travel?

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So yeah, yeah, but so they were murdered together on

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a moorcycle. They joined the collective because they were searching

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for Miguel Angel quadeghill A Costa, their son and brother,

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who was reported missing on February eighth, twenty twenty four,

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and after a year of their searching for him, they

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found his remains in a clandestine grave in La DNA

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in Salamanca. Oh. Wow. And even though they had found

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who they were looking for, they continue to be part

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of the collective's efforts to locate other missing people. Wow.

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And then in April, Cecilia Garcia who joined the collective

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searching for her brother Mikeerlanquil Garcia Ramblas since twenty twenty one,

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she was founded after disappearing for two weeks. Wow. Yeah.

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And so these were all these four were all in

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the state of Juanato since like March, and so yeah,

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it's just they they have asked, like the collectives have

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gotten together and like sent a like a petition where

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they all sign like requesting protection. And the president has

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addressed this Patisia's murder as well as the collective asking

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for protection and basically the I don't remember if Gravila

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Scheibaum herself said it, or if it was a representative

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like someone in her administration who said the State of

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Guanajuato themselves is responsible for protecting these people, because like

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it's their jurisdiction and they should have been providing protection

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if they had asked for it, and especially with the

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most recent murder. And then also that they should be

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also the ones investigating, but that they would like support

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when I when I quit those yeah, like send resources

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for the investigation at least. But person like I've seen

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since the World Cup has started and these killings that

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have happened, people have been one like blaming the newest president,

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which is what happens in every country, you know. But again,

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all these missing date back to like a very long

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time them because like someone said, yeah, but a lot

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of them do. A lot of them dated back to

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the war on drugs started by their own yeah. Yeah,

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And a lot of them are migratory, uh, people who

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go missing in the context of migration. Mm hmmm. And

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then a lot of people try to use all these

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murders and missing to justify the invasion of Mexico by

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the US, and that's like, come on. One of the

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reasons why some people have been disappeared, being killed and

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gone missing is because of a cartel violence, which has

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been caused by various things. But some of those things

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are the US funding US collusion like the DA and

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the CIA working with the cartels, poverty caused by decivilization,

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and so the solution is never going to be to

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bring in the United States, right, right, But even when

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looking at like when I was looking at the funeral

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video for Patricia, there was comments in there of people

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like oh please us, come save us, and like, first,

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those are hopefully all bots, but there are people who

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believe that, and they could very well be bots because

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the United States has also been caught meddling in the

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media in Mexico to this people from supporting Morena. Yeah, yeah,

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but all that, especially to add that first, like there's

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a lot of news that a lot of us being

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here in the US are missing. Yeah, but also that

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so many people who don't look for like a bunch

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of different sources in Spanish, they're more prone to falling

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for like US propaganda. But yeah, in short, the answer

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is never going to be bringing the US. And then also,

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these families all deserve justice. Yeah, and it for sure

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is something that needs addressing and needs like something needs

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to get better, like things can keep going like this.

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But yeah, I wanted to share what little is known

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about what happened to Patricia. Yeah, yeah, well, I mean yeah,

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thanks for sharing and shedding lights light on those injustices.

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We're gonna take a break here and then come back

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with our sk recommendations and we're back. Do you have

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any spooky recommendations? I do so. I recently read Molca

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by Monica Kim, and this is my second Well, she

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has two books only, I think, but this is my

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second book of hers that I read. She's the Ia

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the Best Part author. Yeah, and so Milca is about

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I should let the power of pronounce these names. Sorry,

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bear with me. These are Korean names. I think. I'm

450
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.880
pretty sure it's sent in South Korea. But okay. So

451
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.640
here's a description that he can't believe her luck when

452
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:52.160
she finds herself in a whirlwind romance with handsome, charismatic

453
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:56.680
June the air to a multi million dollar fortune, but

454
00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:00.200
then a shocking revelation threatens everything the couple that is

455
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:02.559
in Korea. The couple has been caught on a spy

456
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:06.359
cam amid Korea's growing moca epidemic. And I don't know

457
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:09.400
if the el is silent. I've been saying it sometimes

458
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:11.119
it's good to listen to books because you hear how

459
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:14.480
things are pronounced. But I invited this, so bear with me.

460
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:17.880
I'm so sorry. And then the video is all over

461
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:20.960
the internet. When June flees the country to avoid the

462
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:24.160
intense public scrutiny that he has left to grapple with.

463
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:27.160
The ramifications on her own, and the demons from her

464
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:30.960
childhood long dormant begin to surface the chaos, she catches

465
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:35.240
the attention of John Young, a nerdy, intorted it tech

466
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:38.559
at work. John Young harbor is a dark secret. He

467
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:40.599
has been spying on the woman at work with his

468
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:44.680
own hidden cameras. And I don't know they meant they

469
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:49.359
or you know, but the hitting camera is called the mocha.

470
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:52.359
That's like the mocha. That's what doesn't ask what is mocha?

471
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:55.880
What is the mocha? Epidemical? Like a hitting camera spine

472
00:30:55.960 --> 00:31:00.359
on women? Oh wow, Oh my god, I'm sorry, so

473
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:04.559
timely in the middle of like the fucking Kylie Jenner

474
00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:13.519
Ai metaglasses nye, but metaglasses release so wow. As Dahie's

475
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:17.599
life begins to unravel, she annoyingly becomes the sole target

476
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:21.319
of John Young's perverse obsession. When the facts surrounding the

477
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:23.799
invasion of her privacy come to light that he is

478
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:27.279
faced with the humilating truth her pain and her turn

479
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:30.400
to rage. As she faces her past, her desire of

480
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:33.160
for a vengeance is unsatiable, and she will not rest

481
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.720
until the men who have wronged her have paid in blood. Okay,

482
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:43.160
I support a woman's rights and wrongs, and it's not

483
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:45.759
wrong to get a rerange. I think. Well, I think

484
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:49.359
I was counting out on her rights exactly. Yes, yes,

485
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:54.519
And I found it pretty fast paced. The story picks

486
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:58.440
up kind of right away. The horror was pretty good.

487
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:00.960
I wasn't scary for me because I think I guess

488
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:04.880
it was more like gory. Oh yeah, maybe a little

489
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:08.960
more gory, but there is like paranormal horror in it. Okay.

490
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:11.319
I guess to not get spoilers away because it's it

491
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:15.079
doesn't mention her dark secrets from the past, what those

492
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:17.880
are and what began to surface. They didn't say what

493
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:19.440
that is and that discription, so I don't want to

494
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:21.519
spoil it. Oh and if you said it right now,

495
00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:24.240
you'll be spoiling it. Yeah, but that has the supernatural

496
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:28.680
element to it. Okay. Yeah, but yeah, it was fast paced.

497
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:31.960
I couldn't put it down. I finished it like in

498
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:33.640
a weekend. But it is a pretty short book though.

499
00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:38.720
It's a two hundred and eighteen pages. Yeah, so it

500
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:41.680
was a good read. All right. I'm looking forward to

501
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:46.160
reading that. Did you read the eyes are the best part? Yeah?

502
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:51.680
Or no? No, I'm still looking forward to reading that too. Okay, listen,

503
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:55.359
I'm busy, I know, I know. It's back in school,

504
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:59.759
so she doesn't have time to read. And I'm pausing

505
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.720
school right now to watch all the World Cup games. Yeah.

506
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:05.240
So when did we say, Oh, when we did the

507
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:08.039
Paytreon epen Son like, it's a busy time than when

508
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:11.920
they did this time. Yeah. Yeah, have you seen that

509
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:15.680
TikTok or someone's like, I can't keep going at the party,

510
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:18.799
I send it to you game. Yeah, okay, that's me. Yeah.

511
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:22.200
I wasn't even out late last night in the streets

512
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:26.440
of Seattle, but I was fucking tired. I was. It's

513
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:28.039
a lot of effort to be out in the streets.

514
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:30.839
Yeah yeah. I was like trying to dance and I

515
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:32.519
was like, oh, my legs are too so I have

516
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:34.839
to walk home right now. How I felt when I

517
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:37.960
when I ran the first time I ran five miles.

518
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:40.640
I had a party later that night and then they

519
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:42.519
had a little death for a little DJ that are

520
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:48.559
playing music like banda music, and I couldn't even step

521
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:52.240
at the My hips hurt. I never felt hip paint

522
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.599
in my lack. Hey that was me. That was me, say.

523
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:56.480
I was like, I got we gotta go, we gotta

524
00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:59.279
go now. I can cannot stand anymore. I cannot walk,

525
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:01.279
I can not down. My friend was like, have you

526
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:03.000
danced it that before? And I was like, yeah, I

527
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.799
just can't, like I can't do it fully, like like

528
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:08.639
actually me, who I come it up? I'm actually going

529
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:12.039
to break yes, So yeah, that was me. Anyway, They're like,

530
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.599
do you be know how to dance exactly? Have you

531
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:21.320
danced before? Okay? Might speak your recommendation, and I guess

532
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:24.639
because we only record every other week, I keep forgetting

533
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:28.119
what I have recommended that. But I finally watched. I

534
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:33.960
am frank, you have not recommended this, okay. It is

535
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:38.559
Mexico's first stop motion like animated, you know, like stop

536
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:46.239
motion movie. And this is for like the I don't

537
00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:52.079
know writers, the creatives, the the like Mary Shelley, if

538
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:55.480
she were alive, she would have loved this movie. It's

539
00:34:55.639 --> 00:35:00.360
it's like it feels a little long. I didn't mind now,

540
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:02.679
but some people like, oh this is dragging? Why how

541
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:06.440
long is it? I don't remember, but I've seen people

542
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:08.880
saying that online like, oh that there's pacing issues with

543
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:12.440
the movie. Regardless, I for sure feel like it's something

544
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:14.679
that all of us your support, because I think a

545
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:16.960
lot of stop motion movies feel like that. They're like

546
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:21.800
slower paced. Yeah, yeah, this it takes its time. But

547
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:26.199
I thought it was a beautiful story. The colors, like

548
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:31.400
the what is the story about? Is like Frankenstein. Well no, this,

549
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:33.880
I thought it was gonna be freaking time related. I

550
00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:38.000
thought because of the name. Right, Well, she calls herself Frankela.

551
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:41.000
I forgot her name. I think it's like Francisca or something.

552
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:43.760
Oh and I think that's where the Frankela comes from.

553
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:48.880
That doesn't make sense anyway, Well it will. So this

554
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:53.239
little girl, her mom dies and then she's like left

555
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:55.800
to be her mom is like sick, and she eventually

556
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:57.840
passes away from whatever she's stick from, like she's like

557
00:35:57.880 --> 00:35:59.599
seeing coffee and it said like and like I don't

558
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:04.119
know the old times, like it's probably consumption, right, that's

559
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:09.440
what I thought, consumption tuberculosis. Yes, you don't know the

560
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:14.840
water name, right, And so then she's left to be

561
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:20.519
raised by her that's kind of mean, damn it. Her

562
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:24.480
maternal or paternal grandma. I'm just wondering. I don't know. Actually,

563
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:27.079
it probably doesn't even say I'm just I don't remember.

564
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:34.000
That's a good question. But she's mean, and she's also

565
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:38.400
like the weird kid in like this little pueblo and

566
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:41.480
she like writes scary stories and then she shows them

567
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:43.639
to the kids. She reads it to them and like

568
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:46.679
and make fun of her. Yeah, basically, they're like, what

569
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:49.480
a freak one. And she's like sad and crying because

570
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:54.480
it's mean, you know. Yeah, And then I don't remember

571
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:57.320
if it's after the Aba has now passed away and

572
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.920
she's like a little older now the frank oh my god,

573
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:04.239
well who takes care of her after her grandma passes away? Well,

574
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:07.440
she's an adult now, it's like later when this when

575
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:10.159
her way that finally passes away. And she's like trying

576
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:13.519
to be a writer and she knows someone who's like, oh,

577
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:15.679
my dad's a publisher. And then she goes to see

578
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:18.199
the publisher and he's like, oh, oh, I can't write anything.

579
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:21.960
What are you doing here? A fucking loser? Not exactly words,

580
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:25.840
but words, yeah, like on the line of that. Yeah.

581
00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:28.679
And so she's like, oh, why do I think I

582
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:32.000
could do this, and she like goes but her stories,

583
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:38.079
like what's in her stories is a parallel spooky universe.

584
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:40.400
Oh my god, that actually sounds really good. Yeah, I

585
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:43.000
need to watch this. You should watch it. I thought

586
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:46.320
it was beautiful. In that spooky universe. There's like a

587
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:49.679
Princhea bet and then his parents who are the King Queen,

588
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:54.639
and it's like each monster is so uniquely drawn, Like

589
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:57.760
I watched it with my children, and then Matteo, the oldest,

590
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:01.000
he immediately just started drawing it into different monsters who

591
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:04.440
so inspired beautiful. He's like, I'm going to draw all

592
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:06.960
the monsters. Yeah, it's like his movie was for him.

593
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:09.239
He loved it. We want it in Spanish too, and

594
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:12.039
they didn't even complain because they're like anyone, I want

595
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:14.280
you in Spanish and I'm like, shut the fuck up basically,

596
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:18.360
but not those words exactly right, the spirit of those words. Yeah,

597
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:19.760
but I don't talk to them like that, but the

598
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:23.519
spirit of those words. Did They said through the whole thing? Yes,

599
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:27.559
Matteo did. Sammy. Sammy is like a little I don't

600
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:33.360
know adhd Yeah, yeah, to say the least, so he

601
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:35.639
didn't sit through the whole thing. But Matteo did and

602
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:38.639
I did too, and yeah, no, it was beautiful. I

603
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:41.679
don't want to see more than that without spoiling anything,

604
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:44.880
you know, but like each there's different type of monsters

605
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:51.039
down there. She goes down there, but the principate invites

606
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:54.000
her down there, and they're like, oh, we've seen each

607
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:56.480
other before because they saw each other as kids. He

608
00:38:56.719 --> 00:39:00.679
like climbs out of the world and goes into hers,

609
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:02.760
and then I love the world within a world and

610
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:07.360
then the yes, yes, yes, And it's just like you

611
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:11.760
can look at the care and the passion and the

612
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:15.000
love that went into this movie. I think every image

613
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:18.559
that you see is there. You could see that, and

614
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:21.360
it was just so vibrant, but at the same time

615
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:25.119
deals with like so many it was just so Mexican

616
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:28.519
as well, you know, with like the vibrant colors, the passion,

617
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:32.239
the yearning, but at the same time it's like people

618
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:38.480
are dying him, you know. So yeah, my god, it

619
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:42.360
was beautiful. I loved it. Sounds good, that's my recommendation,

620
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:43.960
and it's like so late, so I'm like, I think

621
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:46.400
people who might have already been looking forward to seeing

622
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:48.920
it already saw it. But if you haven't like, for

623
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:51.639
sure to check it out. No, I know it's on Netflix. Yeah, yeah,

624
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:53.079
I know. It's because I heard about it and they're like,

625
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:55.519
I forgot about it. Now you remind me about it,

626
00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:58.639
so I'm gonna watch it. Perfect. Yeah it was. It

627
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:02.639
was beautiful. All right, Well we have reached the end

628
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:07.519
of the episode. If you find yourself on the steps

629
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:13.880
of that house, the third step, third step, it's red, Yes, red,

630
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stand there nowhere else? Read all right, say spooky, Well

631
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catch every one next time by Oh sorry, if you

632
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:24.039
do stand there, you have to kiss your partner. Oh yes,

633
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:26.800
you're going to curse people to bad luck. Wow, mention

634
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:32.079
bad If your bat luck, it's Christina's fault. Yeah, listen

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00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:37.559
to Carmen. Okay, no Bye. As Book Tells is hosted

636
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:41.039
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637
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I love the beanie. There's also a hat. There's a

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