Sept. 13, 2024

It Pretended to be the Spirit of a Little Girl & More Ghost Stories

Emily has had paranormal experiences for as long as she can remember. She is a professional curandera, tarot reader, candle witch and death doula. She joined Carmen and Cristina and shared creepy stories, like one with her little niece and a dark...

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Paranormal

Emily has had paranormal experiences for as long as she can remember. She is a professional curandera, tarot reader, candle witch and death doula. She joined Carmen and Cristina and shared creepy stories, like one with her little niece and a dark entity that pretended to be a child and way more!

First they read a listener story and end with spooky recommendations.

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Hi, this is Christina and Kerman and this is another

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episode of a Spooky Tales, a podcast for all things

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as spooky. Today, we have a guest with us that

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will be sharing her stories, and let me just do

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a quick professional introduction, which we never do, so Emily

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Cassis as a professional kurandera terror reader, Kenda Witch and

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Death Doula the seven years of Experience. Anythink else you

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want to share really quick before we get into the

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listener story, like, maybe hi, since you've only been waving

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my bad, I just kept talking about it.

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Hello everybody, I guess just to say that I kind

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of went into all of this because of my own

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extremely insane paranormal experiences. So I love hearing other people's

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experiences because I don't know, I've loved horror since I

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was a little kid. My mom was like a teen

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thrasher in the nineties, so I grew up watching Buffy

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the Vampire Slayer and Jim Henson movies. So like, all

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of this has always been just the norm for me.

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I've been like a little spooky goth kids since I

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was like three or four.

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How exciting. Oh, and really quick, before I read the

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listening story, I just want to say how fun Threads

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is because that's how we connected.

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I love Threads so much. It's so much better than

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Twitter like it ever was. It's so much more like

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a community. There's so much nicer people there.

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I love it for sure. It's also crazy how you

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just type like haunted or something and people will find you.

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And you know, it's like the people that you want

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to find you and the people you want to find

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like you, And I'm like, this is crazy, Like I

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don't know what they're doing over there, but it works whatever.

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I love that algorithm so much. I've never changed Threads.

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Please stay the same because it's working for those of

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us that want to find you know, life minded people

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who aren't dicks.

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Yeah, like just as spooky people that are cool, you know. Okay,

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So I do have my listener story and if anyone

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wants to send us their personal huntings, you can do

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that at a spooky toes at gmail dot com. You

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can also submit it on Discord. The think is in

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the show notes. We also have the Spooky hotline that

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never is in the show notes. You can only leave

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three minute voicemails on there, so keep it sure if

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you're doing that or call again because it'll get cut off,

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or you know whatever. We'll work something out if you

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need something else. So yeah, this one is from Discord,

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so let's just get into it. Hi, I have one

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spooky tale. I don't know if it's scary enough. Sorry

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if my English is bad. Here it goes. This was

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almost eighteen years ago. I am working abroad in Japan.

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I am renting this room from a friend. I work

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night shifts. I am asleep during the day, and I'm

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a light sleeper, so every time I switch sleeping positions,

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like turning to my side, I am usually aware or conscious.

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This time, when I turned something exhaled on my face. No,

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that's horrifyeh. I opened my eyes and nobody was there.

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So I got up and went to my friend's room

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and asked if she went in my room. She said

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to breathe a leap. Imagine that, She said, isn't it

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obvious I'm asleep. This was around nine am, so I

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never went back to sleep after that. Even before moving

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in the apartment, I would sometimes sleep over. One time,

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while I was doing my makeup, I saw a shadow

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standing by the door. When I turned to look, it

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was gone. It was in the room that I ended

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up renting. So it's not really surprising what happened to me,

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but it was a bit scary. Yeah, that's scary.

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Japan, Okay, so so so funny that you bring up

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this Readish story. Because part of my job is kicking

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out spirits from houses, and so I've always made this

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joke like what if we get a bunch of bruhas

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together and we go and kick out all these spirits

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and we basically get like free or cheap houses in

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Japan because most of these houses are abandoned because they're

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considered haunted. I will tell you, though, I'm not afraid

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of anything anymore after doing this for so long and

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you know, having like hands on experience, like nothing fucking

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scares me. But Asian shit is really scary, Like Asian

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shit is really dark. It is it is. I've encountered

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a few spirits like from that culture. I was like, God, damn,

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Like this is intense. So that's crazy. I would have.

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My instinct also is like, oh, like, who the fuck

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is really you get out of my face.

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When you said that part of your job is to

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kick out spirits, it made me think of the episode

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of this fool. Did you watch that? I know, yes

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I did. Yeah, so there's an episode where I forgot

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everyone's name already in this show. But the mom, so

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she retires because she's like this hard working Mexican who

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just can't stop working, right, so that she retires from

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her job, but she pretends that she's still working. Like,

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she doesn't tell her family for whatever reason. Right, she

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tells them she's doing some leisure old people activities, and

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really she ends up house cleaning for an old white lady. Yeah,

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she goes to this lady's house, pretends to be the

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house cleaner, and then when the when the real house

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cleaner gets there, then she starts pretending it's like a

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ghost and she starts yelling at it to get out,

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and like just a bunch of out words. Yeah white.

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So she doesn't speak Spanish and so then she's doing

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it all in Spanish and yeah, and that is that's funny.

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That's one way to get rid of someone.

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Oh my goodness, Well, let's hear a story of like

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you getting rid of a spirit or something that's yeah,

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that's horrifying.

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And I'll tell you, guys, one of my most intense

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house slempias that I've ever done. So I was on Instagram.

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I had my business before and I had more followers,

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and I deleted it for a while, so I can't

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find this person for the life of me. One day,

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this woman contacts me and she's like, oh my god,

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I need your help so bad. She was sending me

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videos of her kids toys like just bouncing in broad

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daylight by themselves, the cars being played with crazy things

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moving all over the house. Her CCTV cameras would capture

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specters moving like all of these things. Oh my god.

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The activity was like a horror movie. It was insane.

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So I fortunately completed my apprenticeship with my godmother and

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a family friend. This is one of the very first

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houses where I was like, bitch is we need to

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get together and you need to help me because wow.

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So I get to this woman's house and I'm like,

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oh my god, there's so much And so she explains

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to me like, well, I live right in front of

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a funeral home and the ashes from the crematorium are

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always hitting my house. That yeah, so you can only

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imagine it took us quite a while to clear that house.

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And so one thing I will tell you. A lot

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of the time when there's a lot of activity like that,

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there's usually a demon involved, and the demon will use

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other ghosts like a battery pack to get more power. Uh.

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It kind of traps all the other spirits with it,

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and it sucks off their energy so that it can

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you know, fuck with people more.

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That's how it shows it in the movies too.

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That's true. That's actually, that's the one thing that Hollywood

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got right. That is actually true. Oh man, I have

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a bone to pick with Hollywood about some hormovis.

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But anyway, okay, you can tell us which act.

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Yeah, so, yeah, we ended up clearing this house. We

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got right to the demon. We got rid of all

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of the spirits. And so one thing I'd like to

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clarify is that I can't completely get rid of the spirits.

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I get rid of the bad ones I create, ok,

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so that only the good ones can stay and nothing

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with bad intentions can get in. So I explained that

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to her. Also another thing about the person who owned

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the home. Sometimes it's not always a ghost. Sometimes our

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repressed feelings can become its own entity and detached from us,

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and you have like your own Poulter Dice wow, like

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going around and messing with things. So we had to

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take care of that for her too, to kind of

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help her attract them less. But girl, there was no

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way we could keep all of them out. We only

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kept the bad ones out because I mean, unless she moved,

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unless somehow the crematorium like stopped, there is no way

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we're going to be able to completely put that to

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a halt. But she paid me very generously because she

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experienced quite a lot of calm and peace. And the

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only thing that she told me that she would see,

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of course, would be outside of the house. Nothing would

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get in anymore. That was fun. That was very draining.

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It took quite a long time to get rid of

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all those spirits. Yeah, something to pay attention to if

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you live around places where there's a lot of death.

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There is a funeral home around the corner from my house.

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There's a funeral home right down the street, and then

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right down the street from that is a hospice. And

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I live on the corner of like a street light.

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So my house is like a bus station for spirits.

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Like I wake up in the middle of the night

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and I go in the living room and I see

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people like sitting on the couches like they're waiting for something.

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Oh my god, this has been my life since I

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was like four or five.

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That's I mean, I guess you're used to it. Does

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it still scare you? Nothing?

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Like I said before, Like nothing really scares me?

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Oh yeah, say that.

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It's just like they bother me like they heard asked

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me twenty four or seven three, six five days year?

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That sounds horrifying it, you know, like they show me.

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I'm surprised they tried to scare me too, Like they'll

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show themselves like all ugly like and I'll be like,

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what bitch away, I'm trying to sleep. Like at this point,

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it's just like whatever I've learned how to coexist with

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a lot of spirits. And so I don't know if

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you guys have seen any of my friends, but I

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was talking about how I go. I live in Opasso,

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so right next to us is what is So I

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go to what is frequently?

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Oh yeah, did you mention since you brought up Apaso

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right now, and it's gonna be in my head El

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Paso High School. Yeah, so that's like where the most

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haunted high school is, right or? Am I remembering.

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All of America.

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Okay, Okay, yes.

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So the reason why it's so haunted is because it

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was like a morgue for World War two soldiers for

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a long time. That's what its whole purpose was. It

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was just like a mound and it was a bunch

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of tunnels and they decided to just fucking blow it

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up and build a school on top of it. Good idea, right,

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And so some people if you know how to navigate them, like,

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you can still go down there and explore the tunnels

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if you know how to get there. There's still some there.

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But the biggest problem with it is that it's a

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gigantic open portal. It's an insane portal. And I have

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attempted to contact people from the administration, like I can

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actually help you, because I feel like people have tried

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to before and they failed. But this portal is so

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intense that the whole top floor of the school is

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completely locked to everyone, Like no one is about to

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go in there. There would be oohs dripping from the walls,

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oh like black bees. Like they couldn't explain like half

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of the crazy shit that was happening in the very

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top floor, so they just close it off, like no

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one can go in there. They're like, out of sight,

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out of mind, We're not going to do with it.

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But I've been on the grounds, I've been in the

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football field, I've been inside the school building. Yes, it

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is extremely haunted. There are so many spirits. And I'm like,

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oh my god, how would I even go about like

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cleansing all of this. It's so big. And so I

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am actually from a small town outside of this city

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called Favans, Lower Valley represent And so in the seventies,

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I believe my high home high school was playing a

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game of football game versus another high school and one

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of the football players from the team from my hometown

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looked into the crowd on the benches and he saw

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a little girl in a white dress.

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Oh my god, not a white dress.

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Yeah, So he commented to someone like, hey, like, you

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guys see that weird little girl. He died. They would

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they did, They kick off and they you know, like

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in football, and.

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He died and he was the only one. That's hard.

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Yes, And so people have this like figuring now that oh, well,

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if you see her, you're gonna die. I've seen her

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a bunch of times. She's like, Hey, what's up and

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you're here to tell the tales. Yeah no, no, no,

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I don't know. I guess like people just kind of

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made that conclusion based off of what happened. But yeah,

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in my hometown, in the in the locker room, like

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they have the plaque with his picture and everything when

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he passed away, and I don't know, I feel like

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she was just like, hey, so they're gonna come pick

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you up. I'm going to escort you. I really don't

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think that that legend is true at all.

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She caused it or anything.

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No, no, no, definitely not. But she is there though.

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I've seen her in the windows because I used to

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go break into the grounds at night. You know, I've

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gotten in trouble so many times for being at different

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cemeteries after hours and stuff, and I just like played dumb.

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I'm like, oh, I didn't.

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Know A yeah, I didn't check the time.

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Yeah. Oh no, oh really oh it closed? Yeah oh wow,

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I didn't know. No, I've never had any trouble except

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one time I did have to run from security because

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another group of people parked their car on the street

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and it was obvious that there were people there. That

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was fun. But yeah, I've visited a lot of the

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haunted spots around here. This whole area is extremely haunted

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because well, if you remember the war between the United

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States or Texas over between the United States and Mexico,

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there's a bunch there's a bunch of deaths that happened here.

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I see a lot of Native spirits out here, but

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there is so much energy like trapped here from all

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of that sadness and anger that happened that My job

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is I get paid. I get paid pretty often to

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go out there and help clear some stuff for people.

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It's it's insane, insane, how like conted the city really is.

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But it's fine.

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I guess you'll never be out of business.

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Yeah, da that And I'm glad I'm able to help

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people in that way because me, as a child, like

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I didn't know how to do or how to deal

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with anything.

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I'm actually glad you just brought that up because I

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was about to ask, like, what was your first experience

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that made you realize that you had this? People call

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it undona gift. I I'm not sure about that, but

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I guess the ability you know.

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All of you have it. You have it.

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Everyone says that, and I'm like, no, thank you, No.

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You do. It's just there's a time period as a

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child's where you kind of start to ask questions, and

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you know, if your mom or your dad are like no,

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like those things don't exist or this and not, like

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you kind of close yourself off to it. So my

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first experience as a child, I was like four, and

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I was asleep in my bedroom and we had this

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big dresser with a big vanity mirror, and I looked

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up and I see this woman with dark hair in

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a really long, like red ball gown. And I looked

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in the mirror. There's no reflection, so I was like,

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what the fuck am I seeing? She turned and she

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looked at me, she away, and she ran into the

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wall and she disappeared.

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Wow.

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Yeah, that was the most part. That was the very

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first like extremely vivid experience that I'd ever had. And

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so as I grew up, like like I finally was

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able to get answers. Well, it turns out that that

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was myself from a past life. WHOA, And I was like,

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why what are you down? What? What? What? What? And

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then ever since then I've been able to see them,

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hear them, feel them. My mom kind of dismissed it.

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She was like, shut up, like that's not true ninety stuff.

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And later I asked her, I was like, why did

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you Yeah, like why did you think I scared? Yes,

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that's exactly what she said. She was like, really I was.

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I didn't know, because she later explained to me too, like, well,

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when I was your age, I was playing with some

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Burton Arne dolls in front of a mirror, and when

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I lived in the mirror, the dolls stood up and

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told me to come inside the mirror, and I got

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O my god, and I got scared of that way.

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And so she was like, I like didn't. I was

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scared of those things, like nobody taught me how to

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deal with them or what they were. So she's like,

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I was, I was afraid, Like I didn't know how

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else to handle it except for to like for you

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to ignore it too. And I feel like that's how

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most parents tend to handle it, because nobody really knows,

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like what the fuck when it comes to stuff like that.

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Yeah, that's so scary, though, I mean I get why

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your mom reacted that way.

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A lot of members of my family are a lot

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more comfortable because I've never been afraid to be myself

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or to talk about the things that I experience and

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I do, and so a lot more of my family

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members are more comfortable with sharing like their own experiences.

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But yeah, I can only imagine what she felt. Also,

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one thing I like to talk about threads I talked

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about not too long ago, because I go to Mexico

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pretty often.

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That's another very haunted place.

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What's sold on. The spirits are different, you know how,

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Like our culture here is totally totally different from the

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one over there. Like I feel like people here are

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more entitled and more selfish, and Mexical people are not

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like that. People are very caring. People are very respectful,

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very polite. Same thing with the ghosts.

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Wow, that's interesting.

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Yeah here in the States. Like I'll cross the border

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and I'll get here, and the ghosts will be like, hello,

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I know you can see me. Hello, pay attention to me.

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I need your help. I know you can see me.

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Oh does things make stuff in Mexico. I'll see them

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and they'll see me, and they'll be like and then

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leave alone.

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I love that mindful Yeah, No, I'm being totally serious.

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They are so polite and respectful. They don't bother me,

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they don't follow me home. It's so nice. I see

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them in public, It's like seeing a live person, just like, oh,

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excuse me, excuse me, that's it, no problem. I absolutely

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love it. And ah man, just the culture shock is

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on both sides of the living and the dead is

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pretty crazy. But okay, I started to do doing this.

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I started reading cards and everything in like twenty eighteen.

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But before then, the whole reason why I even started

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doing it was because I kind of went through another

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level of like conteens. So when I turned eighteen, my

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great grandma passed away. And I know that, like a

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lot of people are very weary of religion because of

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you know, the patriarchy and.

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You know everything and everything all those things.

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Yeah, well, when my grandma passed away, I felt like

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a bunch of protections that she put in place went

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with her because I started getting sleep paralysis, I started

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getting like really fucking haunted. And so I like to

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call that my spiritual boot camp era, oh wow, because

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I learned how to defend myself from these things. And

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So there is a cemetery out in the outskirts in

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the boot from the little town I'm from. We call

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it Laila because it's out where all the farms are,

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and it's always if you don't know how to get there,

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you don't know how to get there. And it's old,

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it's super super old. We're talking like indigenous graves are

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also there. I'm just marked with wooden crosses because they're sold.

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And I frequented cemeteries a lot by myself, and I

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learned the hard way not to take shitty people with

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me to sacred ground.

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Oh yeah.

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I had a friend who was like, I've never experienced

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anything paranormal or spooky, and he's like, I'd love to,

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and I was like, okay, we'll let me take you

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to this place I know. And so you have to

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drive down a road. You have to pass all these

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beautiful trees, and eventually you hit a dirt road. You

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can see the fucking border from where you are. It's

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just desert and it's this cemetery. There's also lare behind

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the church down the street from now. I'll get into

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that in a second. Okay, we pull up to this

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to the cemetery and it's got iron gates at the front.

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We're just driving by, recruising by, and when we get

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to that gate, I swear in my life you hear

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like fists pounding, like someone's fucking doing this on the gates,

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oh as hard as they possibly can. And we both

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looked at each other and we were like fuck no,

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and we turned around and we left and we go

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back to my house. It's like two or three o'clock

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in the morning. So we're sitting outside my house and

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we're like, oh shit, that was scary. Oh well, let's

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forget about it. Let's hit a fucking ball. We're smoking

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in my friend's car, and let me tell you that

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the gone jump makes your ability to see things a

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lot stronger. So we're sitting there and we're smoking, and

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all of a sudden, my friend goes, did you fucking

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see that? So do you keep seeing something out of

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the corner of your eye, like running around the car?

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And I was like, oh no, yeah I do. And

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so like it goes faster, and it goes faster, and

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it gets closer to the fucking car, and we're just ignoring.

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We're gonna keep smoking and just pretend that nothing's fucking happening.

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And then both of my locked front doors like just

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fly open.

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Oh no, oh, oh my god.

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And I was like, it's time for you to go home.

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I need to call my aunt because my aunt is

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the super spiritual, like super advanced woman. I call her

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at three o'clock in the morning, and she fucking answers

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and I'm like, the oh my god, I don't know.

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We went to the cemetery and we came back and

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I was just like in the middle of the night,

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and so she's like, it's like an angry old man

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and his daughter, and I was like, so we brought

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more than one fucking.

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Oh my god, that sounds I was gonna say, an

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angry old man sounds like the kind of spirit you

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don't want. But then also, no, their spawn.

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This person was extremely angry, and so I didn't really

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know anything about how I what I know now. I

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was like eighteen nineteen. I was still young and dumb

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and not really like, I didn't know shit. So I

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was left alone in that house. I was terrified to

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be at that house during the day for several months

457
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because this spirit would literally chase me around the house

458
00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:34.480
during that day. I was terrified. Eventually it left, but yeah,

459
00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:36.759
I learned that that day. I learned and also that

460
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:39.599
friend like turned out to be a terrible fucking person.

461
00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:42.880
He told me that he was born in a Satanic

462
00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:50.720
mid wiffery in Mexico. Those exist. You think magic is scary,

463
00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:55.599
Satanic magic in Mexico is so much more scary. Yeah,

464
00:25:55.640 --> 00:25:57.640
he turned out to be a trash person, you know.

465
00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:03.000
Oh God, I'm sorry of making some connections now. So

466
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:06.440
that cemetery, the spirits were pissed off because we have

467
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:09.000
a Satanic cult in the town I'm from and they

468
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:14.559
used to use this part of it. No, no, thank god. No,

469
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:17.920
I know they've killed people and stuff like that too.

470
00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:23.440
They have a sacrificial like altar like out in the desert. Yeah,

471
00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:25.759
there's a whole lore about the little town I'm from.

472
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:29.079
They used to use that cemetery for rituals. So naturally

473
00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:31.160
the spirits would be pissed off, you know what I mean,

474
00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:34.000
because that's sacred ground. Well I'm sure I feel like

475
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:36.720
they realized, like, hey, like that motherfucker is part of

476
00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:38.200
that ship. Like let's get out.

477
00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:42.000
Of that bitch over there. Yeah, oh my god.

478
00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:46.279
So there's a little church down like just a little

479
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:48.480
like a few a couple of feet like maybe like

480
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:51.000
thirty feet away from that cemetery. And this is a

481
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:55.400
true story. The Sunday school teacher murdered his whole cluss

482
00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:56.240
in that church.

483
00:26:56.599 --> 00:26:59.319
Oh my god, I'm sure that would add to.

484
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:07.799
That the angry Yeah, absolutely absolutely, So yeah, I've been

485
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:13.160
through some stuff, so so much lore and you know,

486
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:16.240
I've talked to other people too about like I have

487
00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:19.400
a friend that used to live out in the desert

488
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:24.079
where that altar was, and she's like that that cult

489
00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:27.400
is real, and I was like, yes, it's very real.

490
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:29.839
And I'm sure it's one of those things where you

491
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.559
hear it and you're like all those stories, but then

492
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:35.480
there's like someone that actually like, no, I know, someone

493
00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:37.200
like it's real, and you're like, oh.

494
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:50.680
Yeah, it's like feelings validated. What else. Yeah, the place

495
00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:54.720
I'm from is so fucking haunted, Like it's so fucking

496
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:59.839
haunted out here. It's ridiculous. But a positive experience that

497
00:27:59.880 --> 00:28:02.960
I have. I take people out to the desert from

498
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:07.519
my hometown because there is a cowboy spirit on a horse,

499
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:10.799
and I have literally taken people out there and he

500
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:12.759
lets you touch the horse.

501
00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:13.640
WHOA.

502
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.880
I've taken other people who also are like open to

503
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:19.359
stuff like this too, and they're like, that's is there

504
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:21.839
a fucking cowboy or herd Like, guess you can see him,

505
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:27.079
what's up? Like he's my little like ghost tour stock.

506
00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:31.720
He's so nice. I like him so much. So there's

507
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:34.759
I know, we mostly talk about like the negative and

508
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:38.039
scary spirits, but there's so many good ones out there too,

509
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:39.039
you'd be surprised.

510
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:42.400
That's interesting because I mean, like you always hear about

511
00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:45.200
like ghosts are people that like can't move on.

512
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:51.000
Sometimes not necessarily, I will tell you that the overwhelming

513
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:54.359
amount of them are that have a lot of like

514
00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:57.720
repressed emotion and just don't want to let go. But

515
00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:01.759
when your loved ones pass away, and especially if they're

516
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:04.240
like if they have like a heart of gold and

517
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:07.880
they're an especially good person, they actually get like a

518
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:09.000
pass to like.

519
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.599
Hang out, oh, because they want to see what their

520
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:13.200
loved wond are up to and stuff.

521
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:17.480
Yeah. So, my husband's grandmother passed away not too long ago,

522
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:20.640
and she was such a sweet lady. My god, I

523
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:23.480
loved her so much. Everybody did. So after she passed

524
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:26.720
away a few months because my oldest daughter is five

525
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:31.039
and she's also waking up to all of these things. Really,

526
00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:34.319
my mother in law pulls me aside and she's like, hey,

527
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:39.200
do you know what. Angry told me what and she was.

528
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:42.319
She said that she sees Morna in her room and

529
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:45.119
that she sleeps next to her, and that she told

530
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.039
her that she was afraid to die, things that a

531
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:51.920
five year old can't make up, you know what I mean? Yeah,

532
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:54.920
And that she also told my daughter that she was

533
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:58.200
there to protect her from the spirits. Because my daughter's

534
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:00.640
waking up, which means other things are start to notice

535
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.160
she's around. She has so many protections in her room,

536
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:05.759
it's crazy, poor baby. My mother in law was like,

537
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:07.759
I was like, you know, she's not making that up.

538
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.720
Like where where would she think of this? You know

539
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:11.200
what I mean?

540
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:12.599
This was in your family?

541
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:15.519
Then? Yes, yes it does. All my kids are super witchy.

542
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:20.440
Often my kids are very like spiritually strong, like really

543
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:21.640
really strong.

544
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.319
And whether your grandmother or your great grandmother that you

545
00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:26.920
mentioned that passed away and like all the protections went

546
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.519
with her a great grandmother, Okay, does she have like

547
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.480
the same abilities to then I would assume if she

548
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:34.640
was like protecting or.

549
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:36.839
Going to say, I'm going to say her and my

550
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:42.119
great grandpadget they were Catechism teachers and they were very,

551
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:46.519
very enveloped in Catholicism, like you know, most Mexican grandparents are.

552
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:50.920
But what was different about them was that they wanted

553
00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:54.519
to know everything about their religion, not just the cherry

554
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:57.240
pick shit. They wanted to know the ugly, they wanted

555
00:30:57.279 --> 00:30:59.359
to know the bad, they wanted to know the corrupt.

556
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:02.079
They wanted to know everything, to the point to where

557
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:03.960
they broke away from the church for a little bit

558
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:06.240
because they didn't agree with what was going on.

559
00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:07.240
Wow.

560
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.960
Yeah, so they're my most prominent ancestors. I talk to

561
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:12.960
them quite often.

562
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:16.119
I love that that's something that we don't and I

563
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:18.319
don't know, maybe it is a common thing. But like

564
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:22.000
our mom, ever since our great grandpa, her grandpa passed away,

565
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:24.920
she would always like pray to him, like not pray

566
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:27.160
to him, but like asking for protection, like we're going

567
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:29.799
to go on a long drive, like keep us safe

568
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.680
and now our our grandpa has passed away. To when

569
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:34.759
we do the same thing as said, I feel like

570
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:38.119
it's yeah, see, I don't know, it just feels so natural.

571
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:42.599
Yeah, of course, I mean, you know, the whole thing WITHRTOS.

572
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:45.519
I love that it has its own day. But you

573
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.920
should venerate your ancestors all the time, not just on

574
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.000
one day. I love that we have like our own

575
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:52.519
Mexican Halloween, you know, but.

576
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:55.680
Yeah, every day.

577
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:59.519
Every day should be the day to venerate your ancestors.

578
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:03.920
Something our our dad does or not himself because he

579
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:06.119
doesn't do anything. But like his family growing up that

580
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:08.359
there was no like Day of the Dead, like altar.

581
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:08.680
It was.

582
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:10.759
They just had like an altar all the time, like

583
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:12.799
two four seven was there every day.

584
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:14.720
It was up absolutely well.

585
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.480
Our mom has hers up all the time like a

586
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:20.839
little yeah, like section, I need to do that too,

587
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:26.759
and then like teach my children not to touch it.

588
00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:27.000
With that girl, I have the same problem I have.

589
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:29.599
My children have five two and.

590
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:35.000
One Oh so small okay mine, uh one is five

591
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:36.799
right now. He turns six in November, and then the

592
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:39.119
other one just turned three in August.

593
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:42.319
That's still more independent age. You're so lucky.

594
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.759
Yeah, it's a little easier now. But that one, that

595
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:47.279
one years, the one messing you up.

596
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:51.079
Yes, he is, Oh my god, I love him so much.

597
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:56.839
And it's funny because he is very very strong spiritually.

598
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:04.640
I don't know if you guys know anything about the

599
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:05.440
astrol realm.

600
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:08.480
No, I really heard the word and like as injection

601
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:10.319
and that's like the extent of it.

602
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:15.400
Yeah, you guys have seen Insidious. Yes, that's how the

603
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:19.480
astro realm is. That shi it is real. So me

604
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:21.759
and my cousin went and watched that movie, and when

605
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:23.759
we came out, you know, people were like, oh, it's

606
00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:26.839
just a movie, like whatever. Me and my cousin looked

607
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:29.279
at each other like, no, it's fucking not. That's our reality.

608
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:34.480
Oh my god, yeah, yeah you can ask. You got

609
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:36.200
to watch it because it's been a few years.

610
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.680
Love that movie. I haven't seen the recent one because

611
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:42.240
I heard that it sucked. But I always like, oh

612
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:47.440
my god, I'm like Aliz, like I'm the Mexican version

613
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:54.880
of Elise. But yeah, no, that's that's how things actually

614
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:57.079
kind of are. Like. That was one of the movies

615
00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:58.960
that when I saw, I was like they finally got

616
00:33:59.000 --> 00:33:59.680
something right.

617
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:01.319
Wow, that's crazy.

618
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:07.640
Yeah. So my son astral projects a lot, and I'm

619
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:09.840
always like no, baby, no, be careful. It's so scary,

620
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:11.800
and he's like, bitch, I don't need your head.

621
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:18.119
And that's scary though, because like he's I feel like,

622
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:20.199
you know, maybe an older kid is less scary, but

623
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:22.920
a young young kid that like I can't like you

624
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:25.079
have to hold her hands. I'll processed right because they're

625
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:26.000
just gonna run like that.

626
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:30.199
No, that's Everyone makes jokes that he's a grown man

627
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:32.159
and a baby body, and I'm like, yeah.

628
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:34.239
Pretty much. Oh my gosh, that's so funny.

629
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.840
Yeah. Yeah. No's like I'll be like, baby, no, wait,

630
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:38.800
hold on, hold on, hold on, let me help you,

631
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:40.239
like you don't know what you're doing. And he's like,

632
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:44.159
I need your fucking help, and I'll leave me behind

633
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:47.239
and I'm like, okay, ship, let me know when you

634
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:47.719
come back.

635
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:49.679
I guess that's wild.

636
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:52.519
So my five year old is a little more afraid.

637
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.639
She does see some ugly things sometimes and she'll tell

638
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:57.119
me and she'll be like, mom, like I see this

639
00:34:57.199 --> 00:34:59.119
and this, and I'm like, yeah, maybe I know. Or

640
00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:03.760
when she has bad I'm like, you shouldn't be afraid nothing.

641
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:07.440
You're stronger than anything and everything that could possibly ever

642
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:09.440
try to hurt you. It's the living that you need

643
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:10.280
to be afraid of.

644
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:14.320
Honestly, Oh my gosh, Ore, that's so I love that

645
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:16.639
you said that, because that's something our dad has always

646
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:20.800
told us. Lives like, It's true. Our brother would always

647
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.719
say and he probably could see them, but that he

648
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:26.960
could would see these shadows like shadow things, beings, and

649
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.760
like not even just shadows, but like full on like apparitions.

650
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.679
Him and my mom and they would tell each other like, oh,

651
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:34.480
I was like scared, and then my dad would just

652
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:36.840
like you'd think he wasn't paying attention, and then he'd

653
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:39.360
cut in like, oh, don't be scared of that, be

654
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:40.679
scared of the living, and we'd be.

655
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:46.320
Like really, that's absolutely true, like really, like again, you know,

656
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:49.920
nothing really scares me because of anything, Like where to

657
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:52.960
try to approach me, I'd be like, bro, I will

658
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:55.039
leave you alone, but if you fucks me, I will

659
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:59.079
banish you from ever coming near. Here is don't don't

660
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:00.239
fuck like everything else.

661
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:04.679
Yeah, and I guess if you work in your work

662
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:06.599
is literally and getting rid of these things. Of course

663
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:08.239
you're not scared of them. You know you can get

664
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:11.639
rid of them. That's insane. Oh true, true, Wow.

665
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:15.880
Especial belief. Like I feel like I became the person

666
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:18.599
that my younger self really needed growing up.

667
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:19.639
That's beautiful.

668
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:23.119
Yeah, yeah, I'm super grateful. It was a very long

669
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:28.800
and extensive process, but yeah, exorcism and of people and

670
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:30.840
houses is my specialty.

671
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:34.960
Man, that sounds that sounds scary, like if you hear

672
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:38.599
it in a sentence, But no, just no, I.

673
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:41.280
Mean not for me again, Like it's what it is.

674
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:43.639
I know how to protect myself. I know how to

675
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:48.519
protect the people involved. It's more of like coaching the

676
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:51.840
people I'm working with to like, Okay, hold on, relax.

677
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.559
I know this seems scary, but I promise you've got

678
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:58.760
you like just breathe, breathe.

679
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:03.920
You seem like the perfect person for this, like job too. Yeah, yeah,

680
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.280
like wow, like a match made.

681
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:09.679
So are you? Did you retire from the military? You

682
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:10.800
got out? How did that work?

683
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:14.639
I did my four year contrasts and then just you know,

684
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:16.519
bounce like that.

685
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:21.079
My husband's a retired infantry veteran who also sees shit,

686
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:25.079
so like we'll come together and he'll be like, I

687
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:28.079
saw this in the closet, I saw this in the hallway.

688
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:31.079
We'll be watching a movie and like a book or

689
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:33.760
something will fucking fly across the room and we'll be like,

690
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:35.280
and we'll keep watching the.

691
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:38.280
Movie, like now right now we're trying to watch.

692
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:42.159
Really just don't pay attention to it whatever, But one

693
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:44.480
thing we see a lot here in this house, I

694
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:46.800
guess because we're parents, we see a lot of spirits

695
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:51.000
of children, a lot of spirits of children.

696
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:53.599
Little girls. Do you believe this thing because a lot

697
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:56.800
of other people or some people say that spirits of

698
00:37:56.880 --> 00:38:00.119
children are not really spirits of children, that they're like

699
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:04.079
sometimes more evil things. That's like a thing. But there

700
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:06.159
are also like actual spirits of children.

701
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:09.320
Let me tell you an experience that my aunt has had.

702
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:13.760
So her daughters are also honestly, they're stronger than I am.

703
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:14.599
They're more a weight.

704
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:19.719
It's friendly, not gifted. Yeah, a couple of well.

705
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:24.920
It's mostly the women. It's mostly okay, Okay. My aunt,

706
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:29.800
her youngest daughter is the one that's the strongest woman.

707
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:33.280
Like I mean, she would draw pictures of like what

708
00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:35.920
she would see, and I'd be like, oh shit, Like

709
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:40.320
she would see things like in the flesh, like full on,

710
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:43.039
like they were standing in front of her. And so

711
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:48.400
when her middle or the oldest second oldest sister lived

712
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:50.800
with her, there was this little girl that she kept

713
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.039
seeing in a bush from across their apartment. And I

714
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:55.280
stayed with them, so I know exactly what she was

715
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:57.960
talking about. She's like, I kept seeing this little girl

716
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.519
like standing in that bush. But I had a really

717
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.920
bad feeling about it, so I ignored it. Well, she

718
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:07.079
says that in a dream, her sister brought the little

719
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:10.280
girl inside the house and it turned out to be

720
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:17.960
like a man, like a very evil man, and god. Yeah. Yeah,

721
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:21.559
if there's anybody, my aunt journals everything, and if she

722
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.280
ever leaves me anything, I hope she leaves me her

723
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:27.760
journal because I would love to read about all because

724
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:31.599
she's had insane fucking experiences like that.

725
00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:35.920
Man. Also, that's so like terrifyingly like insidious that it

726
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:39.519
came in through like a dream. That's so like, yeah, tricky. Yeah,

727
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:43.840
this reminds me one time. And I've told this like

728
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:45.960
maybe just a couple of times on here, and it's

729
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:47.960
been a while, so I'm going to resay it to

730
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:51.719
tell you. But my previous co host and I am

731
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.719
J we were researching this thing called the way Chivo

732
00:39:55.280 --> 00:40:03.039
in Mexico. It's like a shape shifting thing basically like

733
00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:06.480
Mexico's version of this. It's like this old belief, such

734
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.719
an old belief, and we were researching that for an

735
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:10.480
episode of like it was like episode three, it was

736
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:12.639
so or five some shit like that. So early on,

737
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:16.840
but in the middle of all that research. One of

738
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:19.800
those nights, I fell asleep, so I was like asleep

739
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:22.920
and then I heard like I kept like tossing and turning,

740
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:25.679
and then I know it was like three am because

741
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:28.400
I looked after I woke up. But in my dream

742
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:31.719
I heard this like raspy ass man voice and it

743
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:34.760
said like oh, and it was in Spanish and it

744
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:37.480
said in Spanish, oh, you wanted to be able to

745
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:41.400
see us, Well, here we are, bitch like Buddha. And

746
00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:45.280
then then and I was cold. I was so cold,

747
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:47.000
and my heart was racing, and I just put on

748
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:48.440
the office on my phone and I was like, oh

749
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:51.639
my god. When I tried to wake my husband up

750
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:53.000
and he wouldn't wake up, and I was like fuck.

751
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:55.280
And then none of my kids came in that night.

752
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:57.480
They always would storm into the room and just sleep

753
00:40:57.559 --> 00:40:59.239
with us, and they didn't even do it that night.

754
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:03.519
Everything and ever since then, I nothing, And I'm so

755
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:05.840
thankful for that, because you got scared.

756
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:10.000
Your mind was like fuck, no, we're not going to

757
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:13.400
be open to shit, close the door.

758
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:14.119
None of this.

759
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:20.079
No, that's so funny. Yeah, shit from Mexico is intense

760
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:22.400
because like, well, let me tell you that growing up

761
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:24.760
like I was like, ah, I'm this goth kid. Uh,

762
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:28.719
the got kids from Mexico would buryme me dude, because

763
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:31.960
like death is everywhere in Mexico.

764
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:35.320
That's very too, especially like wadis especial.

765
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:37.519
I mean, I love going there, but we don't go

766
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:40.559
in neighborhoods we don't know. We don't go places we

767
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:41.760
don't know, we go where.

768
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:44.519
Well, even when we go to guerd Dahada, my mom

769
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:47.159
has told us, you know, if you're visiting Artheas, she

770
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:49.000
has to be at the bus stop to meet us,

771
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:51.360
so people know that we know her and we're not

772
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:52.920
just like random people walking through.

773
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.159
Because they'll try to fucking rob you. And he didn't

774
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:58.960
have you and should like no lie, Like death is heavily,

775
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:03.639
heavily prominent in that country. So like I love watching

776
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:06.840
scary vitos. We'll fucking fall asleep watching like reels. I

777
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:09.039
can tell when they're real and when they're not real too,

778
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.559
And we'll stay up and we'll watch scary videos all

779
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:15.599
fucking night. We'll fall asleep to listening to scary videos.

780
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:18.280
I will tell you the spirits of Brucastrum over there

781
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:19.119
are pretty scary.

782
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:22.320
Oh I could, I can see those are some of

783
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:23.320
the scary stories.

784
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:27.840
I'll throw hands, but like a lot of the time,

785
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:29.679
they don't bother me. I see them, but they don't

786
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:32.199
bother me. And so there was this one videover watching

787
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:34.719
where this man was being followed by one and if

788
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:36.800
you've ever seen a spirit of a bruca, it's just

789
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:40.440
a bitch with a skull face and long hair. And

790
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:42.679
so she kept following him and he couldn't get her

791
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:44.920
to go away to the point to where he was recording,

792
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:47.159
and she was sitting in the fucking backseat of the truck.

793
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:51.280
And I was like, you did something, really, you did

794
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:56.920
something to being haunted by something like that. Oh yeah, girl,

795
00:42:57.000 --> 00:42:59.480
the ship you can get away with in Mexico. I

796
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:01.760
was looking had him because I can read energy too,

797
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:05.599
and I was like, you fucking deserve to be haunted

798
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:09.599
by this spirit. I hope that she fucking empowers your

799
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:15.519
energy because you deserve it. Damn Yeah, dude, that feminine

800
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:19.880
rage for femicide feaside so bad in Mexico.

801
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:23.400
Like it really is. And then especially again, especially what

802
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:27.280
Is There's a whole podcast called What's It called cover Forgotten?

803
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:28.440
In What Is Forgotten?

804
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:28.920
What Is?

805
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:31.400
I think it's what the name of it, but it

806
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:38.000
covers the Machilaa workers that all went missing. It's such

807
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.079
a good well made. It's like it's so old now.

808
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:42.800
I'm sure there's way more deaths that are not even

809
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:44.320
accounting in that podcast.

810
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:47.840
When we drive out there into the desert going towards

811
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:50.440
the mountains, like, I sit there and I think about, like,

812
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:54.239
how many mass graves we're fucking passing the we don't see.

813
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:56.639
It's insane, see like things on the road as you're

814
00:43:56.679 --> 00:43:57.199
like driving.

815
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:00.320
Oh yeah, man, oh yeah. One time a spirit did

816
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:02.559
follow me home, and my husband's always telling me that

817
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:05.199
I look like the Adidas that are like begging on

818
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:08.840
the winter. I kind of do. I'm not gonna lie,

819
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:12.320
And I was like, well, there's my indigenous roots.

820
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:14.559
But one day there is nothing wrong with looking like that.

821
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:17.280
I don't know. One time one did follow me home,

822
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:20.039
a spirit of one, and she is mad, and she

823
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:23.880
didn't say anything. She just wanted to be witnessed. She

824
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:27.679
presented herself to me and she was very sad and angry,

825
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:29.400
and I was like, you don't have to stay here,

826
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:30.239
you can.

827
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:32.760
Pass on, and gave me chills.

828
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:34.800
Yeah, oh, girls, is my.

829
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:38.000
Everything to cry. It sounds beautiful. It's such a powerful thing,

830
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:42.159
like people just want to be like witnessed and to

831
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:44.920
be heard. Wow, wow, the poor thing.

832
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:48.599
I'm so grateful that I am able to do what

833
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:51.159
I do too, because a lot of these people really

834
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:55.639
did just want compassion and understanding that they never got.

835
00:44:55.760 --> 00:45:00.239
Especially over there. Man. Everyone is spoor and works so

836
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.800
so so hard just to live. And I mean you

837
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:05.400
can die just walking on the street over there trying

838
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:08.920
to googleet groceries or something. Death is very prominent in there.

839
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:13.159
But I've had nothing but good experiences going over there,

840
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:17.239
So I'm grateful to have people that know, you know,

841
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:20.000
like I have family over there now because of my husband,

842
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:23.000
and I love it. I love being over there. But

843
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:25.559
I'm also highly aware that there's a lot of danger.

844
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:29.239
Yeah, yeah, like it because there's people that are like, oh,

845
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:31.360
I will never visit Mexico, but it's like you can go.

846
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:34.800
You got to be careful, yeah, wherever you are.

847
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:36.920
Do you know where I really want to go though,

848
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:39.400
because I feel like I have work to do. Their

849
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:43.559
The Mummy Museum in Guanajuato. Have you heard of that?

850
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:47.400
Yeah, we have, we heard of the witch that's that,

851
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:48.639
like Si, I.

852
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:50.239
Want to go set her free.

853
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:53.000
Yeah, and just the way they were keeping her was

854
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:56.400
crazy because it was one so bad for her. She

855
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:00.719
is probably not even a witch from what I've read

856
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:03.559
and make research about it. She's just a woman. Yeah.

857
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:09.039
They they had her body changed. No, No, she wasn't

858
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:13.360
a witness. They finally unchained her. You know. But man,

859
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:15.320
I know I want to go release.

860
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:18.480
Most of spirits need to be to be released because

861
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:22.039
they died in such a fucking agonizing way. That's a

862
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:24.840
lot of them stayed trapped there, so something I'm probably

863
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:26.519
going to end up doing if I ever end up

864
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:30.840
traveling over there. But yeah, I'm super super grateful to

865
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.039
be able to do what I do. I also help

866
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:36.480
people pass away. I'm also a death dola.

867
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:37.760
Oh I wanted to ask about that.

868
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:44.639
Yeah, Repressed feelings and stagnant energy are what can trap

869
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:48.199
us here, which is what I release, and then I

870
00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:52.440
lift the soul and release them also into the realm

871
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:56.159
where they're supposed to go. Super grateful. I've had My

872
00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:59.440
mom had me really young, so I've been around. I

873
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:03.079
watched my great grandfather's mother passed away.

874
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:05.159
Oh yeah, a lot.

875
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:08.360
I watched a lot of older family members pass away

876
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:12.000
as small as a kid. So I'm very, very very

877
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:16.039
used to being around people who are passing on. So naturally,

878
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:19.440
you know, that became a part of my job also, right,

879
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:23.719
I love it. It's a beautiful experience. Personally, it's very rewarding.

880
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:27.280
It's very validating for me to like, I feel like

881
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:30.639
child Mead would be very happy with what I'm doing, because,

882
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:35.360
you know, everything that I saw was extremely valid, and

883
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:38.079
and then I forgive everybody for the religious bullshit too.

884
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:43.639
You know, like one time, I remember I saw a

885
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:45.559
bunch of spirits and I didn't know what to do,

886
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:48.440
and my grandma just like started throwing holy water in

887
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:50.599
the air where I would point and I didn't do

888
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:54.679
anything unless they're I still stay there. But my mom

889
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:58.719
would make fun of me, and I'm like, fucking, you're

890
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.679
another one seeing all this stuff. I was because she

891
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:04.360
scared me into thinking that it was bad, and I

892
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.400
was like, you're like, and.

893
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:10.440
I would do though, right, I think not not so

894
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:12.760
much now that I've talked to not only you, but

895
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:15.079
I think at least a couple of other menims we've

896
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:17.519
talked to on either the our shows or our show,

897
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:20.519
and it seems like it's now that I've talked to

898
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:23.760
all of you, like, it's not as terrifying as maybe

899
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:25.199
I thought it was at one point.

900
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:29.320
No, definitely not. I still get so scared, though, as

901
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:32.519
long as you come with a respectful intention, Like I

902
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:36.199
actually came back from Gonia, which is one of the

903
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:42.280
oldest cemeteries in Old Passo too. We're talking like eighteen hundreds, ohld.

904
00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:46.840
I was just like, what's that, guys, hello, passing through

905
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:49.559
And then when I passed by that cemetery sometimes I'm

906
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.239
like office hours are from such and such.

907
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:57.559
I'm not working right now, leave me alone. Yeah, I

908
00:48:57.599 --> 00:48:59.159
love that. I love that because, yeah, you got to

909
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:01.599
have like your sent and boundaries, like you know, only

910
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:03.360
we can't talk right now.

911
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:06.599
No, I'm like I have like erins to do or

912
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:09.519
something I'm late to some appointment, like I don't have time.

913
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:12.480
And I hear them too like say no, no, say no,

914
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:18.639
and I'm like, nah, oh my god. Yeah. My life

915
00:49:18.639 --> 00:49:23.760
has been very interesting. And I completed my apprenticeship when

916
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:26.079
I was like twenty twenty one. I'm twenty seven now,

917
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:29.119
so I've had a lot of I gained a lot

918
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:32.440
of knowledge really quickly as a young person, and so

919
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:35.239
now I'm just kind of figuring out how to show

920
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:38.320
other people that this is not so bad.

921
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:42.360
Oh my gosh. And that's something we hear so much

922
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:46.719
with other mediums and terror readers and people with disability,

923
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:48.880
that it's like it's not the thing to fear, especially

924
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:55.000
like younger you know, Latino, Latina, Mexican like relatives like

925
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:57.880
because if you know you can see it, usually there's

926
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:00.800
another person in your family that can. Maybe you can

927
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:03.880
say him from not being so scared, like my brother

928
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:08.199
was so so scared. And maybe if someone else that

929
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:12.360
also wasn't astroumatized from these experiences because our mom was too. Yeah,

930
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:14.519
maybe if someone else like you would have been around

931
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:16.719
when he was a kid or when our mom was

932
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:19.599
a kid, maybe it would have been a better experience

933
00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:20.360
for both of them.

934
00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:22.920
Yeah, definitely. And if there's one thing I have a

935
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:25.920
fucking bone to pick with about Hollywood when it comes

936
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:30.679
to horror like this, they make it seem like whatever

937
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:34.639
supernatural force you know is stronger than you. That's not

938
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:38.079
fucking true. You are so much stronger than anything that's

939
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:40.920
trying to scare you, but you forgot So they take

940
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:43.000
advantage of that and they try to use it to

941
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:46.719
manipulate you and scare you more. No. Now now I'm like,

942
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:50.840
you're fucking dumb, Like I will fuck that, literally, use

943
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:53.599
my spirit to punch you in the throat. Get the

944
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:58.360
fuck away from me. It's totally different now. But yeah,

945
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:01.920
I'm trying to change that, starting with my kids, and

946
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:03.960
you know, with the people that come to me for help.

947
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:07.000
I do my best to explain as much as I can.

948
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:09.920
I give as many free resources as I can, because,

949
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:14.280
oh man, I guess I'm meant to help everybody, like

950
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:17.599
become more comfortable with the fact that, you know, other

951
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:22.039
dimensions exist among ours, and that's something that's really hard

952
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.760
for a lot of people to be comfortable with. I

953
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:27.400
will tell you. I can say I'm used to it,

954
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:31.960
but at the same time, not really because energy from

955
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:36.039
other dimensions it's kind of weird, feels weird. Sometimes it

956
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:40.079
feels heavy, sometimes it feels different, and a lot of

957
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:43.880
people become really overwhelmed with stuff like this. I'm here

958
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:45.800
to try to make it a little bit easier.

959
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:48.000
How do you take care of yourself to not like

960
00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:49.960
let it like affect you that much.

961
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:52.920
I have to meditate, I have to I have to.

962
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.760
I have to. I have to. Your mind, your body,

963
00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:58.320
and your spirit are all connected, and when one is

964
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:00.880
in balance, the other is in balance. So it's really

965
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:05.920
important to maintain all three. And so you know, meditation

966
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:08.840
helps you spiritually, but it helps you physically too. It

967
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:12.320
helps lower your cortisol levels, it helps you do stress.

968
00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:16.760
Negative feelings, I will tell you can create holes in

969
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:19.519
your aura that make it easier for things to try

970
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:22.920
and attack you. I'm not trying to scare anybody into

971
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:26.920
not having negative feelings, but you know, like a long

972
00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:31.000
period of depression or a long period of anger, like

973
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:35.679
those feelings can literally like create holes in your protective barrier,

974
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:40.639
and letting them go helps fix that. So yeah, it's

975
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:41.760
a lot of information.

976
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:44.039
I'm glad you asked that, Carmon, because I was about

977
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:54.079
to ask that too. Oh yeah, well we're reaching an

978
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:58.559
hour and I got to eat dinner, so let's wrap up, right,

979
00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:02.599
But first, spooky recommendations. We'll start with you. Do you

980
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:06.199
have any Emily books or movies, whatever you want, whatever

981
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:09.320
you want to share, Okay, your most like love spooky recommendation.

982
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:12.960
Okay, so I really like fuck what is his name?

983
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:15.400
It's because I watch a lot of like paranormal videos

984
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:19.840
on YouTube. If you speak Spanish, rat snick.

985
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:23.800
Oh, yes, okay. I also love Chapel.

986
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:26.840
I love him. My favorite book ever that I can

987
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:30.079
read a thousand million times is The Shining from Stephen King.

988
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:33.039
I still need to read that, so I need to

989
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:33.679
read it too.

990
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:36.320
And over and over and over and over again, and

991
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:41.159
then I think, Okay. I pick horror films based off

992
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:45.079
of the special effects. The scarier the fucking demon or

993
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:48.840
whatever looks, the better the rating you get from me.

994
00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:52.000
So one of my favorite ones was The Demon and

995
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:54.360
Ouija the movie and Wija.

996
00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:55.800
I still need to watch that.

997
00:53:55.800 --> 00:54:00.719
I haven't watched so So so good and Idious again

998
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:04.320
some of my favorite movies that are pretty good at

999
00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:08.039
representing like the dark side of the spirit realm and

1000
00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:09.280
what it actually looks like.

1001
00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:12.800
What else? I have so many, girl, it's ridiculous. I've

1002
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:14.840
been watching all this ship since I was a little kid.

1003
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.239
I really liked Terrifying for the Gore.

1004
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:20.920
Oh one or two, I haven't seen.

1005
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:22.239
Two, but one was really good.

1006
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:25.400
Okay, I still haven't seen those either, and then I haven't.

1007
00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:28.400
I have My husband wants to go mining for crystals

1008
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:31.000
in caves, and I have a fucking fear of tea.

1009
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:34.320
Because of all of.

1010
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:42.800
The movies, yes, all these ones about caves. Bro God, wow, So.

1011
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:44.519
The people in real life that get stuck in the

1012
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:45.960
caves for real.

1013
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:49.920
Like it happens often? Then not? Yeah, I'm sad and scary.

1014
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:53.880
And he's like, what's even I'm like, sir, we watch

1015
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:55.119
horror movies for fun.

1016
00:54:56.320 --> 00:55:00.000
Have you seen The Descent for real? And you probably

1017
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:01.280
see stuff down there too.

1018
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:05.559
So yeah. And then the one place I've always wanted

1019
00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:08.159
to go, and if you can go, fucking one hundred

1020
00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:13.320
percent recommend is the Catacombs in Paris because colonization.

1021
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:16.360
My ancestors are from their Paris.

1022
00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:20.559
Yeah, France, we're French, you know, the French colonization of Mexico.

1023
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:21.400
I have a lot.

1024
00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:23.760
I was gonna say French, the French to have a

1025
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:25.280
long history in Mexico.

1026
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:29.280
Yeah, yeah, so I have. I have French ancestry, and

1027
00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:31.199
I know my husband is too because they showed me

1028
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:33.519
the family tree and they showed me a picture of

1029
00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:37.719
their French immigrant ancestors with their fucking luggage like coming

1030
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:41.039
over there in Mexico. So I was like, okay, a

1031
00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:44.079
lot of you motherfuckers like breeding with us, and that

1032
00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:47.199
explains why I am a pale skin. Latina makes a

1033
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:48.199
lot of fucking sense.

1034
00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:49.239
I would love.

1035
00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:51.920
I would love to go to the Catacombs, but I

1036
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:53.840
know there's a lot of ugly shit down there too.

1037
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:59.960
So many stories, Cormen, do you have any speak you company?

1038
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:03.159
I do, because last time I had like a bunch

1039
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:05.880
and I had to split it up because that was

1040
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:07.599
going to go on and on, and then I had

1041
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:11.519
to do something. Nightmares and Dreamscapes by Stephen King. Oh,

1042
00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:13.400
i've heard of that. Oh, I also haven't read that.

1043
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:16.719
It's only wout Salem's Lot. It's a book full of

1044
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:19.000
short stories that he read unfinished.

1045
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:22.840
Oh my god, it's so good. It is so good.

1046
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:25.840
One of the stories is about this man who keeps

1047
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:28.400
seeing this little boy in a mask and every single

1048
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:30.239
time that he sees him, like someone does.

1049
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:35.400
It's good pages, and.

1050
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:38.880
It's just short stories that are like like every time

1051
00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:39.400
you read them.

1052
00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:44.880
I like reading stories. I'm still reading. Yes, me too.

1053
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:49.360
I'm on the like third short Stories. But that's also

1054
00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:52.039
another great book which in my own Oh You're a

1055
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:56.480
further Scorpion the fortieth one. Yeah, Oh wow, Okay, and

1056
00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:59.480
right hear sometimes when I need a distraction because you know,

1057
00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:02.920
like you're and then like you can't focus anymore, like

1058
00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:05.559
every paragraph or so like as I'm hyping. It's so

1059
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:07.639
then I take a quick break and I read like

1060
00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:10.440
a page and I have it like in front of me, right, Oh,

1061
00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:13.039
I should do that. That way I'll actually finish it.

1062
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:16.920
But yeah, my recommendation is the Sound of Gravel by

1063
00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:19.199
Ruth Damn. I didn't know how to pronounce her name

1064
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:22.920
Warrener maybe Warner it's war like w A r I

1065
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:25.719
n e r the sound of gravel. But she's the

1066
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:30.199
thirty ninth daughter of uh, one of the the founder

1067
00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:35.199
of the Libaron, the Libaron Coult. Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah

1068
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:38.159
we have we talked or you talked about it was

1069
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:40.679
I here for the episode. I don't know I were

1070
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:43.559
here here. It was when it was the three of us. Yeah, okay, okay,

1071
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:47.480
So yeah, because we talked about them it uh And

1072
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:49.960
I saw this on my on Libby, so then I'm like, oh,

1073
00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:52.079
I need to read this. And so yeah, she's a

1074
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:55.400
thirty ninth daughter and I couldn't can't remember her dad's name,

1075
00:57:55.440 --> 00:57:59.400
but Irville is her uncle. Irville Okay, yeah, And I

1076
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:02.079
mean I can go on and on, but people should

1077
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:04.880
just either read it or listen to it. It's read

1078
00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:10.480
by Ruth herself. It's just, you know, incredibly infuriating, also

1079
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:13.239
lovely to hear she made it through that, but like really,

1080
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:16.239
she just she went through a lot too much. It's

1081
00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:18.119
like every time I thought it couldn't get worse for her,

1082
00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:18.519
it did.

1083
00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:19.400
Wow.

1084
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:24.079
Okay, So my spooky recommendation is this podcast I just

1085
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:27.719
discovered because I was listening to another podcast called Books

1086
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:30.199
in the Freezer. Actually that's another good one, Books in

1087
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:33.519
the Review Horned just started listening. It's so fun and

1088
00:58:33.559 --> 00:58:35.400
they have like a theme with an episode, and it

1089
00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:39.599
usually has other authors as guests or other like book podcasters.

1090
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:42.320
So there's like an episode with the book we're reading

1091
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:45.039
now for the book club being at that he's the author,

1092
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:48.760
there's an episode with him. There's an episode with v Castro,

1093
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:53.639
the author of the Haunting of Alejandra, And every episode

1094
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:57.719
is seemed around like oh, cozy horror books or horror

1095
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:01.079
books about grief or things like that. But in that

1096
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:07.039
podcast she mentioned a different podcast called audio Drama, so

1097
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:10.800
it's not like a real thing, but the pole premise

1098
00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:14.320
of this podcast is that people send in their letters

1099
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:17.320
and she reads them like their problems, and she gives

1100
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:19.880
advice on them. But it's like set in the world

1101
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:23.599
where there's like monsters and it's called Monstrous Agonies, So

1102
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:27.320
people will send it cools and the episodes are so short,

1103
00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:31.519
ten minutes, twelve minutes, all under fifteen minutes, it seems,

1104
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:34.760
and so it'll be like, oh, I don't know what

1105
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:37.480
to do with my roommate. I've never had a roommate

1106
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:40.079
that has scales before, and she just like picks them

1107
00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:42.039
and leaves them everywhere, and I don't know.

1108
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:42.320
What to do.

1109
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:44.559
It's so gross. Is it wrongs on you to make

1110
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:48.519
it's gross? And then the host she's like, no, this

1111
00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:52.079
is not a you problem. Even if you're not human,

1112
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:54.400
you shouldn't be doing this. Think of it as clipping

1113
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:57.719
your toenails and leaving it there. Like that's still rude

1114
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:03.039
no matter what you are, followed so funny. Yeah, So

1115
01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:06.280
that is my recommendation because I have been having a

1116
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:10.039
great time listening to it. And again, it's Monstrous Agonies

1117
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:12.119
because the first time I heard I thought it said

1118
01:00:12.199 --> 01:00:14.440
monster Agonies and I was trying to find it, and

1119
01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:17.440
I typed it into my podcast app podcast and nothing

1120
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:20.360
was coming up. And then I typed Monster Agonies into

1121
01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:23.360
Spotify and you can type the most random shit misspelling

1122
01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:25.760
at Spotify will find it. And so I found it

1123
01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:29.280
and I'm like, oh, it's Monstrous Agonies. So that is

1124
01:00:29.320 --> 01:00:32.400
my recommendation. It's been funny. I love I have been

1125
01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:36.000
enjoying it so far. And yeah, before we go, do

1126
01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:39.519
you want to tell our listeners where they can find

1127
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:40.840
you if you want to be found?

1128
01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:45.440
Okay, just on my Instagram right now, it's at Lovely

1129
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:48.800
Dark Terro. I do have a YouTube channel, I just

1130
01:00:48.840 --> 01:00:51.920
can't remember what the fucking user name is, so Instagram

1131
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:56.199
for right now is okay, Instagram, and I will share

1132
01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:59.480
that in the show notes, and then through Instagram you

1133
01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:00.719
can also on your threads.

1134
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:06.199
Yeah, so fun is life, man, I shure, it's been great,

1135
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:08.760
full life and all of my so you'll see me

1136
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:13.000
occasionally talk about either a memory or an experience I've had,

1137
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:15.840
or even like something that I'm experiencing currently.

1138
01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:18.920
I talk about all kinds of bullshit involving what I

1139
01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:19.679
do on there.

1140
01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:24.119
So yeah, perfect, that's it. Yeah, and again, it's such

1141
01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:28.400
a great place to just like find people. So thank

1142
01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:31.559
you again for coming on ever being so understanding. I

1143
01:01:31.559 --> 01:01:33.880
had to cancel last week because I couldn't talk.

1144
01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:38.039
Say less, you have kids too that are probably in school,

1145
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:38.880
like say.

1146
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:44.440
Less, it's been Yeah, it's been so fun you seriously,

1147
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:47.079
like we already said through a episode, but like the

1148
01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:48.840
best person to be in the field that you're in.

1149
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:53.679
That's just amazing. And then come in anything else to

1150
01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:58.280
add before we go Nope, nope, okay, all right, well

1151
01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:02.239
say a spohee. We'll catch everyone next time. BUYE BUYE.

1152
01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:05.920
As Book Tells is hosted by Christina and Carmen, produced

1153
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:09.480
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1154
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:12.039
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1155
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:14.519
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1156
01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:16.320
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1157
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:18.719
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1158
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:21.079
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01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:23.719
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1160
01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:25.800
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1161
01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:28.599
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01:02:28.639 --> 01:02:31.119
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a fan favorite. There's a lot of options, crap tops.

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It's almost wetter weather. We're nearing a Spookie season, so yeah,

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get your hoodies. You're gonna need them. If you don't

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want to do all that, that's fine too. You can

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just listen like you're listening now, and that's the best

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support that you can give us. Like I always say

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in our ad break and yeah, I feel like history.

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You can follow Estodia's Unknown Mining, Carment's other podcasts, and

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you can find as Spooky taels on all of our

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socials at a Spooky Tells All. This is in the

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show notes and we appreciate every single listen. Thank you

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so much. Stay as Spooky