Haunted Places in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico

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Hi everyone. This is Christina,
this is Carmen, and this is another

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episode of a Spooky Tales, the
podcast for all things spooky, spooky,

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my bad. We're going back to
our roots today. There's no true crime,

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just like you promised me. Yeah, I promise you specifically, Carmen.

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Yes, yes, yeah, today
we're doing legends from our lovely Guadalajara.

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Guadalajara. Yeah. Every time we
hear Gualla Dahara, I just start

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singing Guadadhara, Guadadada, but I
can't sing, so you know, yeah,

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I'm not gonna do that again.
Yeah. I'm surprised you actually did

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that. I know. I may
cut it, I know, and I

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had to leave it. Yeah,
you're right, you're right. Yeah,

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Guada Dahara. And yeah, that's
where our fami is at. That is

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where our other piece of our heart, that's where it's that's where it is.

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Yeah. And we've talked about legends
from Guadalahada before. We have a

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whole episode where we did, like
said, the Los Perros and other places,

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the graveyard nelin yes, yeah uh
and then still a separate episode about

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Elspital cv Ellspital uhah. Yeah,
Guadalahara is hunted af but we love it.

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We love it. Our grandma's house, yeah, our grandma's house.

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Yeah. Before we get into Guadalajada
though, we do have a listener story.

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Carmen is reading it. I am
doing the honors today. Christina so

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graciously trusted me with this huge responsibility
today. So I just hope that I

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do right by you and the listeners. Mm hmm. So this is from

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Gracie. She says, Hi,
y'all, my name is Gracie, and

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I love the podcast. I enjoy
listening to spooky stories and estonias known oh

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yeah, oh hey. During work
or my drive home, I tell people

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about y'all to listen since you're one
of my favorite podcasts. Thank you so

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much, Grazy, thank you,
Thank you. It means a lot.

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Okay, So back to her story. You're already messing up. You're messing

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me up. Sorry, Okay.
So Gracie says, my story takes place

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in the Imperial Valley, where I'm
originally from. It's a small farming county

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in California by Mexicali, Mexico,
where there are tolos and cowboys alike.

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Love that love it, she says. She specifies my family were tolos Oh.

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Okay, So Gracie says. I
was about ten and I was living

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in Section eight housing with other single
mothers and elderly people. I would go

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outside during the winter it's like one
hundred and fifteen plus degrees in the summer

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and play with my friends in the
Section eight complex. My friend and I

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were outside of the apartments along with
her mom and my nana, who were

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best friends. They were in the
grassy area far from the apartments, and

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the kids were playing in the street. I had to pee, so I

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asked my friend if I could use
the bathroom in her apartment, since we

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were closest to hers in mine.
She said yes, and I went inside.

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Around this time. It was after
five pm, so it was super

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dark outside and the lights were off
in the apartment. I went in by

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myself. I'm already scared. Okay, that was me, not Gracie.

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By the way, stop, I
can't I have to interject my opinion.

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It's the Leo and me, Okay. The way the apartment is set up,

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you enter through the living room,
which is connected to the dining room

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and the kitchen. Then in between
that there's a hall that leads you to

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two bedrooms and the restroom in the
far back of the hall, and all

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of the apartments were the same lay
out, the same size and shape.

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I turned to the hall in order
to go to the restroom when I saw

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siluette of an elderly man in the
hall. Okay, he was tall,

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had a wrinkly face, and wore
a cowboy hat. Okay, so not

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okay, so a cowboy ghost.
Oh like your tattoo. That's what she

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saw. Let us know, crazy, Please let us know if that's what

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you saw. No, she said, I was an elderly man with wrinkles

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and everything. Yeah, you're right. Scratch all that. Sorry, So

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back to the story. I literally
stopped in my tracks and stared at the

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silhouette. No man lived in the
apartment with my friend and her mom.

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Her dad dipped years ago, and
there wasn't a man sitting with my nana

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and my friend's mom outside sitting with
them when I went inside, but the

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man was looking at me. I
ran outside. I would have peed right

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then and there, but okay,
whatever, back to this. Yeah,

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for real, I ran outside of
my friend's apartment, and when they asked

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where I was going, I said, back to my house. She said,

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I'm leaving, I'm out of here. I'm my boy, And so

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she says I lived in the same
apartment complex, just three minutes away.

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I almost peed myself running the stairs, but I just couldn't get close to

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the man in the hallway. Turns
out my friend's apartment was haunted. They

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heard things that night, stuff moved
around, and they saw shadows like I

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did. They were Christians, so
they got their pastor to bless the house

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to tried to get rid of the
devil, but it never worked. I

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later in life, had a friend
in high school who lived right above that

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apartment. It was a two story
apartment building and there's only like forty thousand

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people in town. I told them
about the experience I had downstairs and asked

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if they or their family ever experienced
anything. They said no, and I

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was shocked because I figured it was
the whole apartment building that was haunted.

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Now I'm twenty four and I talked
to my spiritual friends about it, and

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they suggested it was Bruhetiah curse on
the family itself, which isn't far fetched.

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But I'm no expert any kind of
spiritual stuff. I had never been

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back inside of that apartment alone.
And I haven't heard from my old friend

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or her mom in years. I
moved away from my hometown years ago,

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but I still think about that experience. I definitely have to email back with

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other experiences that I've had, please
Christie, including the Wali house in San

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Diego. Oh okay, m hmmm. And then she says, people have

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a good day. Also, hi
to my husband and said here for my

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five seconds of fame. Stay is
spooky. I love it, Gracie,

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Thank you so much. Creepy And
yeah, you know, you would think

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if one apartment was experiencing something the
one above it would be two, but

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not always. Sometimes ghosts they like
their spaces. It's definitely interesting. Yeah,

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but I'm like I would figure too, in an apartment complex, more

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than one of the apartments would be
haunted. Wow. Yes, thank you

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so much for saying that. In
that's very creepy. Sorry, I was

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gonna say when we're thinking about the
story, oh you were gonna say more.

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Sounds like you were done. I
do think she's right about the bluehetia.

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No, I don't know why I
stopped them. And then it took

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a sip like I did have more
points. But that's why I thought you

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were done. It makes sense.
So yeah, it's definitely weird that only

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that apartment was haunted, and I
think it does make sense that maybe it

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could just have been her family.
That's true. That's true too. You

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never know, and like if they
moved and I followed them and no one

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else had experiences, and yeah,
that would have cement that belief, Like

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not that that we know that that
happened, but like it could have.

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Yeah. Yeah, If you have
a story that you want to send into

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the podcast, you can email a
spookitos at gmail dot com. You can

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submit it on our discord that is
linked in the show notes. You can

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call the a spooky hotline. There's
actually like three messages we have to listen

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to at some point that I haven't
like downloaded and since to listen to.

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So we had to do that and
I love receiving those. I love receiving

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all your stories. Though you can
also dmo Instagram. That's another option,

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though I lose track of that very
easily. That makes sense, So email

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and discord is the best one.
Discord is even better because there's a whole

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channel that just has submit a scary
story and that's a very easy place to

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find and then people can comment on
it. Yeah, it's great. So

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yeah, join that if you want
to be used. Discord Kerman doesn't.

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So I just remembered that I said
I was gonna try it out, and

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then I never did. I forgot. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's

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why I made that face, was
like, I know, okay, So

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now onto Guadalajara. Galalada, galahada. Thank you. I was waiting.

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Yeah, I'm sure that longtime listeners
of Speakytaiales know. But yeah, that

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is where Carman and mine, Carmen
and our our family is thank you.

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I don't know how to talk.
Yes, that's where our family is at.

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That is where we go when we
visit Mexico to visit our grandma.

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Yeah, and we love it.
We love the city. It's a big

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city. It's actually I might have
said this in our first Guadalajara episode,

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but it's one of the only cities
in Mexico, not one of the only

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ones. But that wasn't already an
established community that the Spanish k men took

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over like there was nothing. There
was no indigenous population in Guadalajara, in

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Guada Lahara. Really, yeah,
specifically. Yeah, it was a settlement

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from the beginning. Yeah, like
there was no moving people obviously other parts

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of Jalisco, Yes, yeah,
specifically. No. Oh, I didn't

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know that as far as I have
read, I mean, I hope I'm

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not like wrong, and you know, so of course if I'm wrong,

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correct me, but like nicely or
I'll cry. But yeah, we've shared

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many legends. But of course Guadala
is amazing and very haunted, so there's

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always more stories. And I hope
to go to one of these when i'm

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there. At least we've been to
one. Which one in the pantheon?

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Oh and oh my god, we
did a whole tour and everything we did

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the Torriyah and our grandma's house and
our grandma's house is hunted. Yes,

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And we went to Meetia's house and
she says saw, she said, she

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sla. You do not remember.
Yes, Oh, actually Artia and Guadalajaram.

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This is related, So I'm gonna
share it. That same house where

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she says she lay. They say
that there's like a like a shadow that

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people see. Oh, I didn't
know that. Yeah, they say that

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that one time one of our cousins
was coming home late from Cristiano. I

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guess everyone was already asleep, and
he was walking in and there was another

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cousin. His sister was sleeping on
the bed, and then against the wall,

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he saw like a shadow creeping up
on her and then he almost passed

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out in fear. Damn. That's
that's scary. Yeah, And it was

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like a huge shadow. And he's
not the only one in that in that

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street that has seen this shadow in
the walls of their house. So interesting,

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very scary. So yeah, the
first place that we're gonna talk about

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in Guadalajara is Ospicios and it's actually
known as Museo Caabagas now it's in the

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center of Guadalajara. So where like
the you know, big cathedral with Santa

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No Sensia in it, you know, the big Do you know that story?

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Sure, surely you do. I
think we've shared it on the past.

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Yeah, sorry, I just didn't. I took me a second to

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think about because I didn't remember ever
what it's called. You're talking about the

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girl who was killed or something like
that and her bones were there whatever.

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No, yeah, yeah, I
like her allegedly wanting to legend her mammified

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body is okay, yeah, yeah, on display and her dad killed her

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right because you wanted to be a
Catholic or something like that. Yes,

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okayes that is the legend. Yeah, we've covered it much better on a

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different episode. So yeah, where
the cathedral is at where I know this

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place at San Juan de Dios.
That means we've been there too. We

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have, we have been. We've
for sure we've seen her. You just

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don't remember it, I think,
but yeah, we've been to the cathedral

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many times. And San Juan de
Dios is in the same area. So

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this place Specio is like a five
ten minute walk down from so it's all

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in the same area basically the center
of Godalajara so musill is what it's called

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now, But it was once so
Specio like hospice, yes, oh,

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spcio ca. Yeah, it was
built by Juan Cruz Ruiz, the cas

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hence hence yes. And he arrived
from Spain with a dream and a lot

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of money because he was uh,
because he got there in the first place.

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Yeah, yeah, he had the
full support of the Spanish crown.

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So you know, it's a bit
more like he arrived with a dream with

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nothing but a pocket of change and
a dream or whatever, but this is

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the opposite. He had a dream
and a lot of support from the Spanish

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because they were colonizing Mexico, so
right, right, So he had a

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dream to help the poor, orphaned
Mexicans and the old, the sick,

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and so he brought the idea to
build this place that was going to be

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Serve, Serve the needy to the
Spanish crown. They gave him the money.

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Construction began in eighteen oh one,
and then it opened in eighteen ten.

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And it opened with the name Gasa
de la Garidad e miseri Gordia the

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House of Compassion and Mercy, something
like that. I was like, what

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is that word in English? Misi
gordia mi sigrdia is either mercy or compassion.

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I don't know which one. It
could be both. I think it

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depends on the context I see,
but it sounds more it sounds more ominous

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in Spanish. Yeah. When it
opened, it served to help those in

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need, the sick, the elderly, orphaned children. It provided them with

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the home meals and education. It
taught them like a vocation even but this

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didn't last. The fights for Mexican
independence began later that year, and then

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the building was commandeered by the Spanish
army when the war was over in eighteen

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twenty one. Oh Spicio Cabanas then
continued its original mission, and then when

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Juan Gruz Ruiz de Cabaas passed away
in eighteen twenty four, O Spicio Cavagnas

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then became a center for children only, so it no longer was a hospital

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for everyone. It was just an
orphanage slash hospital, but not really like

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an emergency hospital, just to help
the children who were already there that were

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sick. Okay, some sources say
that it could said that it could house

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six hundred children, but others set
one hundred and thirty children. Not so

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big discrepancy in numbers. We're between
one hundred and six hundred, okay,

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yeah, yeah, makes perfect sense. I'm inclined to believe the bigger number

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because it had one hundred and twenty
six rooms and there was more than one

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yeah, more than in a room. Yeah, m hmmm. So that's

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why I'm inclined to believe the bigger
number. So in eighteen fifty seven it

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became the property of the Mexican government
and it was under the management of a

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group of nuns called Las Ermanas de
la Garidad, and let me guess they

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had no kharidav no no, no, okay, I mean maybe some of

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them, but some of them did. Are you saying, what is khadida?

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Yeah? Kharidad in English? What
is that? Let me just Google

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translate because it's sane. Oh it's
saying charity, charity, I think really?

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So okay, well then it would
be sisters of Charity if Google Translate

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is correct. Now that was just
Google, like just from a dictionary type

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thing. Yes, no, okay, yeah, charity it is. Yeah,

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well, mightn't know that those are
the words that should be in that

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game. The game because that game
was too easy. It's because I guess

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we're not actually, and that's evidenced
by us having an easy time with the

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game so far. The naysayers just
kidding. We should record ourselves playing it

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and put that as on Patreon.
Oh that would be fun. Yeah,

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back to this. So, yes, charity apparently sisters of Charity. So

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by this time it had one hundred
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twenty three batios. I can't say
batios in English. It sounds very wrong

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to me. Patios seventy two hollways
and a. It was full of beautiful

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paintings, murals, and at this
point it was an orphanage, uh until

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it closed. While it was an
orphanage, the children who cared for here,

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a lot of them had their last
names changed to Gabes Okay, which

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is weird to me. I just
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just leave them with their own last
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their orphans they don't have legally,
they don't have parents anymore until they could

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change their last names, I don't
know, yeah, or maybe like the

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ones that were small enough to not
have had well, no you because when

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someone gets dropped off, like we're
found, I don't know, maybe children

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that didn't have names. I guess
we don't know, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, which is a thing,
But I don't know. So I don't

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know what these circumstances of the children
whose names were changed, But a lot,

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a lot of the children that went
through the orphanage their last names were

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changed to gabayes. Can you remind
me what years these are? We are

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in the eighteen fifties, eighteen I
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very popular to convert slash fource Indigenous
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could the name change come from that? Because I remember when I was I

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don't remember what class I was taking
where I some paper or something I was

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studying. I ended up finding like
it contained logs of last names like people

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and children, but I think it
was also adults in that log. Oh.

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I think it was the history of
California. This was in California,

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but obviously back then it was Mexico. Yeah. Yeah, and you know

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how there was the missionaries or the
missions, yes, yes, yes,

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so any Indigenous person that lived in
the mission eventually was forced to convert,

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right, yeah, and their names
were changed. Yeah, and so then

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and then there was, yeah,
this whole log of like hundreds and hundreds

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and hundreds of names and it had
like their indigenous name and when it was,

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you know, changed to a Spanish
name. So maybe it's something like

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like that. Also, I wouldn't
doubt it. I wouldn't doubt it.

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It's very possible. Yeah, the
children there, they were all cared for

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by the nuns there, and many
former students recall their time at Elospico cavanas

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fadly really okay, yeah, yeah, I'm surprised though the nuns did use

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corporal punishment. Take care of them
with a firm hand. Okay, so

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yeah, but they still remember.
Finally, so in nineteen eighty it became

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El Instituto, and then it was
changed to mussel Cavas, where you can

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walk the same hallways the children did. Today you can admire many of the

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mural murals, sorry murials, murals, many of the murals that were painted

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by Jose Clemente Orosco, a famous
painter in Guadalajara, and he has many

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murals across the city. And yeah, it's a beautiful building in the center

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of Golahada, like I already said. But of course this wouldn't be a

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topic on espooky tales if it was
all just roses and loove or whatever the

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saying is. I'm sure there's a
saying like that. This is what I've

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been waiting for. What did you
say? What's sane? What? Sorry?

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Roses and like roses and oh no, you know what I was thinking

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rose colored glasses, which doesn't make
sense in this sentence. Oh okay,

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yeah, I couldn't figure out you
were trying to say. So, yeah,

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it doesn't matter. So Els Picio
Caes is home to stories of death

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and ghosts. According to legend,
back when it was still an orphanage,

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Specifica Vanes had a clock tower at
the entrance. It was brought from Spain.

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For the first few weeks, this
clock worked fine, rain every hour

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as it was intended to. It
made the entrance look fancier. You know

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what clocks do, what clock towers
do. But for some unknown reason,

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the clock stopped working. It was
brand new, so you know, it

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should have been working, but it
often broke down, and it was always

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in need of repair. Like it
broke down and then it just wouldn't turn

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back on until the clock repair man
came and fixed it. And at first

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it was just this annoying, inconvenient
thing that kept happening. But then the

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nuns noticed a disturbing pattern that shook
them to their core. Three am.

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No, the time didn't matter,
oh okay, okay, but whatever time

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it stopped at. At that exact
time, a child in the orphanage was

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found dead. Oh my god,
and it became known as elre log de

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lamerte. They didn't know why it
was happening. People started saying Satan himself,

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Satan Nas and Diablo himself was controlling
the clock. So after they noticed

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the pattern and that it happened again, then they were like, let's get

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rid of this clock. Makes sense, makes sense? And yeah, they

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got rid of it. And even
though the clock was gone, the children

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who died, they remained dead.
Yeah, and their ghosts were in the

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building. Oh sorry, that makes
sense that I just knock up there for

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whatever reason, but it made sense. It was she also remained dead.

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They remained there as ghosts. Yes, I was like, what they remained

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what? Oh my god, I
can't willow Okay, So and now this

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is the story from Ospisioka Mussel.
Someone was visiting. Lupe was in Guadalajara

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for the week. She wanted to
reconnect with her Tapatillo heritage and visit her

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yeah right, and visit her mom's
hometown home city. And really it's a

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city, it's big. Being at
her grandma's house with everyone was a little

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too much for her. She was
kind of introverted. So she got on

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the bus and then you know,
the train or metro, whatever you want

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to call it, and then arrived
at the historic center of Guadalalajara. She

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went to the market San Juandelios.
And then she walked around until she got

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to Mussel Cavanas, and she was
looking at really everything there. It's uh,

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it's a museum, so you can
look at the paintings, the mural

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mirror. Oh my fucking god,
I can't say that word the murals.

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Yes, I don't. Yeah,
I don't know where you're putting the emphasis

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you're putting. Keep saying the name. Yeah, you are saying the old

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lady named Muriel. I'm so sorry. So, yeah, she's looking at

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the beautiful paintings. I'm just gonna
replace the word with paintings from now on.

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I know that I'm not talking about
a small painting, but a whole

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wall. I just can't say the
word. Well say, that's why you

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need to say mural. I can't. I can't mural. Yeah was that

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better? Yeah? Thank you.
So she was walking around, just you

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know, in awe of everything,
because it is really a beautiful place.

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But then she got to one mural. It was red with the clock and

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a man trapped inside the clock.
I mean that sounds scary. Fuck.

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Yeah, it was very out of
place. It didn't it looked like it

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didn't belong with the rest of the
murals, although some of them are already

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very creepy. There's one very famous
one called like a Man on Fire and

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it's basically a man on fire.
Oh, I think I've seen this,

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you probably have. And this was
meant to decorate a building for children.

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So yeah, like it is already
full of very strange paintings. But even

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though one she was looking at that
moment was out of place. But because

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we're talking about the paintings already,
I have to talk about this one because

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it's very very strange. This is
on the ceiling. Oh that's scary.

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Yeah, and yeah, so this
was it's kind of cool, painted by

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Jose Clemente Rosco. Yeah, it's
called Umbre de Fuego or the Man of

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Fire. And yeah, you see
these dark figures around a man. It

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looks like they're either holding each other
off or they're not holding hands, like

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they're like intertwined, right, yeah, yeah, they are intertwined. And

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then in the center a man on
fire walking. So yeah, just it

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is full of strange paintings like this. But so the painting that Lupe was

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looking at at this moment, it
was it was creepy, to say the

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least to say the least. Yes. So it was covered in red.

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It had a clock. Inside the
clock there was a man and behind the

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man a group of children, and
it looked like they were behind him hiding

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from something. And then in the
corner of the painting of the mural there's

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a nurse and she looks mean and
she's looking at the children and this man

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in her way of the children.
So that's the painting that she was looking

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at. That was like why is
this here? So she just got this

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very creepy feeling from it. It's
like, this is weird. I'm gonna

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go. So she turned around to
walk away. But when she turned around,

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she saw a boy peeking out of
one of the rooms. He had

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red hair, his face was bandaged, and he beckoned to her to come

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to where he was. And like
I would have been like fuck that,

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but she went. I would to
wave bye bye, like bless you little

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little boy. But I can't come. I can't follow you. I can't

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go there. I cannot Yeah,
but she went. She went. When

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she got inside the room, it
was dark. Well, first she went

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to the door and she peecked inside
and it was dark. And then for

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some reason, she still went inside
the room because she didn't see the boy.

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So she's like, where do you
Maybe he's inside the room, Like

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maybe I need to go in at
again? Not me, better she went

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and so inside it was cold,
empty, dark, The boy was nowhere

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to be seen. The temperature dropped, and she's like, okay, I

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need to get out of heatly and
she turned around to leave, and then

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when she turned to you know,
walk to the door, the boy was

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standing there blocking the door. He
was wearing a hospital gown. He looked

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not alive anymore, you know,
pale, ghostly. Oh my god,

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and he laughed and reached out his
hand, and then she was like front

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in fear, about to pass out, and then he disappeared, Oh my

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god. And she booked it out
of the room. When she when she

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ran down the hall, that mural
she had been looking at, she didn't

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see it, like it was like
gone. But she's like whatever, I

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don't even care. I'm I'm out
of here, and uh yeah, very

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creepy. There's another legend about was
Pecioas and this legend explains the deaths,

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but not the clock. Really,
I don't know what's going on with the

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clock. So according to this legend, the devil wasn't waiting to take the

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kids. It was an evil non
nurse named Eva. Well, this would

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make sense with the other story,
with the picture she saw or the mural

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she saw with the nun. Yes, so, Eva had been at Opcios

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for years and it was noble work. But even then there was some kids

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that could not be saved. Ev
I believed that some kids were better off

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in heaven, and she was saving
the kids by helping them get there faster

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ship Themuck up, I'm not that's
what she said. Okay, that's what

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the legend says. She said she
didn't know how many kids she had sent

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to her Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
the Father, what the fuck? But

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she was proud of her work.
Most of the time. She used a

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pillow to send the six kids to
heaven, but sometimes she swayed from her

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from her M m O, if
you will. Yeah. So there was

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a little boy who had been sick
for quite some time, and she didn't

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want to wait to see if he'd
get better. She was like, no,

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he's forsaken. I need to save
him. So she used poison on

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little red haired Benito m and it
was taking longer for him to die than

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usual. He was getting weaker,
but he was still alive. She went

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to go check on him, and
so when she walked away, she heard

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the clock chiming, and she walked
over to the clock and was looking at

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it, and then it stopped.
It stopped, didn't stop ticking. And

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as soon as it stopped hurt ticking, she heard screams coming from inside,

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and she was like, oh,
the other nuns found Benito. He's probably

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dead by now. But she was
no surprise to her because she was waiting

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for him to die. Yeah,
And so no one knows what happened to

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Eva. A few days after Benito
died, she was found dead next to

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the clock tower. Right, that's
what I think, That's what I suspect.

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And to this day, people who
visit was Spisoca Vannaz see the apparition

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of a red headed boy, as
well as a group of children together like

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running and they disappear or they're standing
in a corner, all of them together.

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The kids always have black eyes so
much worse. People also hear disembodied

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giggles and cries. Very creepy.
I want to go there, though I

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do. I mean I'm sure we
won't see her hear anything if we go,

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but let's take her mom. Yeah, well she'll tell us what exactly

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go right. Well, not you, unfortunately, And I wish you could

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come with us. But my mom, my brother, and sister in law

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and the children were all going.
And my sister in law she loves to

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00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:26.640
shop and be out and about more
than the rest of us, I think,

405
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.000
and our brother too. Yeah.
And so they're talking about wanting to

406
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.839
go to San juandadios, and I'm
like, well, going to the market.

407
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:37.720
I want to go to Ospicias.
Yeah, so we'll see. I'm

408
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.559
hoping. But all the all the
little haunted places are all nearby each other,

409
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:44.960
so, like, like I said, little pals, I think it's

410
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:47.359
like around the same area too.
So I'm like, I want to go

411
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:49.960
to one or the other and take
pictures. Yeah, the museum would be

412
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:53.559
easy. Maybe make a log out
of it, like a traveling one.

413
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.880
Wow. Yeah, the museum would
be easy. We'll see. I have

414
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.160
hopes only there for like six days, so who knows. Yeah, it's

415
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.880
hard to do stuff. Yeah,
yeah, so I'm hoping to go there

416
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:07.279
though I do want to. But
yeah, that was a and We're going

417
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:11.000
to take a quick at break before
we go to the other two places.

418
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:15.720
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that, and now we're back.
Welcome back. Yes, yes, the

436
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:51.359
next one is Palaso las Bacas.
That's what's called, huh, the Palace

437
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:55.079
of Cow's cow palace, I guess
makes some sense. Yeah. So in

438
00:31:55.160 --> 00:32:00.680
the inteen nineties, Segundo Dias,
the cousin of Mexico's president slash dictator Portfvidio

439
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:07.720
Porfirio Diaz m hm, he built
a mansion on Caye de San Felipe in

440
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:10.759
the heart of the city, the
center of Guadalajara. I've seen that street,

441
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.000
you have, Okay, well,
I mean it's it. I think

442
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:19.920
it's one of the main streets.
So construction on the home began in eighteen

443
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:23.400
fifty and it ended in nineteen ten, the same year as the Mexican Revolution.

444
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:28.359
So but I saw that as Bacas
had twenty four rooms, two dining

445
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:34.599
rooms, a chapel, quatro patios, four patios, beautiful gardens in them,

446
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:37.720
and ten bathrooms. And I want
to say, if only I had

447
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:39.759
like one of those bathrooms, one
of those extra bathrooms in my house.

448
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:45.839
You usually need one more, I
know. Anyway, Yeah, ten bathrooms

449
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:50.960
and it was on a big chunk
of land as well. Segundodias also commissioned

450
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:57.680
murals from Diego Rivera and Jose Clemente
Orosco who did a lot of the Ospizio

451
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:04.400
Gavagas murals as well, so tying
that in with special covenes and Segas wanted

452
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:08.079
to build the mansion to marry a
tapatia, a beautiful tapatia and those were

453
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:12.640
his words, not mine, Like
that's what it says when you look up

454
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.160
the info. Interesting. Yeah,
and so he got the dream home,

455
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:22.559
but he did not get the dream
He never married. Yeah. When it's

456
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:29.000
funny because it was like an English
newspaper that was talking about going to Palasaccas

457
00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:32.319
and they wrote a beautiful tapatia and
then in parentheses they defined it, so

458
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:38.559
it's like a beautiful woman from Laa. Wow. So yeah, he never

459
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:43.359
married, and he did live in
the palace for some time before passing away.

460
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:47.240
When Segundodias died, the property was
sold to his brother, Miguel Dias,

461
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:52.680
and he converted the land into a
dairy farm. From palace to dairy

462
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:57.640
farm Okay, Yeah, he let
his cows roam free, and this is

463
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:02.400
when it got the nickname Palasovacas.
Wow. Eventually he did sell the property

464
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:07.159
and then the cow palace was used
as a school for girls, and then

465
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:12.480
in elementary school, then a high
school, then a theater, then an

466
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.159
upholstery place, and apparently at some
point it might have been a brothel as

467
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:21.800
well. Interesting, lots of lifetimes. It's lived a lot of lives.

468
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:28.000
It has, it really has.
When the first time it was used as

469
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.679
the school, it was the first
girls school in Hally School. Wow.

470
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:37.079
And at some point a woman who
owned the building she wanted to turn it

471
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:42.119
into a parking lot, but the
city of Guadalajada would not let her because

472
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:44.840
it was such a historic building.
Like, you can't just destroy it,

473
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.840
makes sense? Makes sense? Yeah, So they finally for once put a

474
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:53.400
stop to capitalism, thank you?
Yes, so because they didn't let her,

475
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:59.280
then she plugged all the down spouts
with cement. The fuck is wrong

476
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.880
with this bait with the hope that
the weight of the water would cause the

477
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:08.239
building to collapse. Oh my fucking
god, I know it didn't happen,

478
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:14.119
but a lot of the murals were
damaged. After the damage, it fell

479
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:17.000
into disrepair and it was like abandoned
for a little bit. That happened in

480
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:22.800
the nineteen seventies. So yeah,
it was now abandoned in disarray, and

481
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:27.400
locals believed that Oh no, sorry, I'm going to backtrack a little bit.

482
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.079
That happened. The building was damaged
and then it was abandoned. In

483
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:34.840
the nineteen seventies, a different owner
tried to buy it to destroy it,

484
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:37.760
to demolish it and put something else
there, and for some reason, it

485
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:42.320
just never happened. The job was
left unfinished and no one knows why.

486
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:46.280
And people, locals started believing that
the building could not be destroyed because spirits

487
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:51.519
had moved into it. Oh,
they were making a new life there and

488
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:55.000
that's why it couldn't be destroyed.
So the property was then sold two times

489
00:35:55.239 --> 00:36:00.800
to Americans who had big plans for
the once grand Power dairy farm, school,

490
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:06.719
brothel, you know all his lives
at one point, the Mirror family

491
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.360
from California, you know, like
John Muir m u I R yeah,

492
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:14.639
Like I feel like everyone in California
knows who they are. They owned it

493
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.199
at some point. Then a man
named John Davis bought it as well after

494
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:21.119
that at some point, and then
he went broke trying to restore it.

495
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:25.760
So I guess briefly, it also
was a cafe, and it was very

496
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:30.639
well known for its very good cheese
cake. I love cheesecake. I know,

497
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:35.159
it's my favorite cake. It's actually
the only cake I like. Well,

498
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:37.639
first of all, it's a pie. It has the word cake in

499
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:39.840
it. Okay, it's not cake. I've never thought of cheesecake as cake

500
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:43.440
though, I don't think it's like
and why the fuck does it have the

501
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:51.079
name cake? Just because whatever bunt
cake is good? Oh, which one

502
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:53.280
is bunt cake? Well, they
make like different flavors and stuff, but

503
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:57.920
I think it's like a kind.
And of course I'm no baker, but

504
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:01.639
I've tasted. There's this place called
Nothing They bun cakes. What a cute

505
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:06.880
name. And I haven't gone there, but I've I've tried stuff from there

506
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:10.079
because like they'll take it to my
husband's work or like to my work,

507
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:15.280
and they make like these cupcakes that
are made like bun whatever style that is

508
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:21.559
and delicious. So but I just
got called it like not too moist but

509
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:23.239
not dry, because that's what I
don't like about cake, And that's why

510
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:28.159
I don't like that, just because
it's too moist. I only like one

511
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:32.480
reslegus cake and it's from a bakery
by my house called Marthi's Bakery, and

512
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:37.679
they make a Cageta relegue cake.
It's the only one to get cake for

513
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.800
my children's birthdays because it is the
only cake I will get for them because

514
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:44.880
I like it. Oh, of
course that's a little selfish. I don't

515
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:49.800
care. Okay, how do we
get here? Cheesecake? Yes? It

516
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:53.679
was once it placed known for cheesecake. Yeah, so but this bakery's gone

517
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:57.599
correct, Yeah, it's gone.
It's not there anymore. It's a museum

518
00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:01.000
now, no bakery known for cheesecake. Because sorry, I'm gonna keep talking

519
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:06.480
about cheesecake for a second year.
Me and my friend and my friend Lauda

520
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:08.880
and I don't know if you remember
this, but we went to when you

521
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:12.920
used to work at Chicken Bar,
and we went there to eat cheesecake there,

522
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:15.119
do you remember. So then we
supposedly had made it a point,

523
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:20.760
we were calling it our cheesecake Adventures, where we were gonna go try cheesecake

524
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:23.639
from a bunch of places. Wow, I do not remember this well.

525
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:30.559
I didn't remember either until she texted
me or she sent me a IG video

526
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:35.639
of some other some country and there
was a huge line because the cheesecake's amazing

527
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:38.800
apparently, and she's like, should
we resume our cheesecake adventures? And I

528
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:42.280
was like, hold up, And
then that's when I remembered everything. And

529
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:46.119
also she told me we had cheesecake
adventures. I didn't know. Yes,

530
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:52.360
yeah, we should resume them,
right, mm hmm. So then that's

531
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:54.039
why I was asking if this bakery
was still there, because it sounds like

532
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:59.239
I need to go there for a
cheesecake adventure. I wish, I wish.

533
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:02.199
Okay, no more cheesecake talk.
Okay, done, I'm done.

534
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:07.199
Back to the episode, when it
was a cafe known for its cheesecake.

535
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:14.039
The cafe conducted tours of the upper
floors of the palace. How cool,

536
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:17.280
yeah, and it had not been
restored. It was still in very poor

537
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:22.679
condition, and during these tours,
visitors claimed to see shadow people or hear

538
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:28.760
do somebody's screams, and the shadows
and screams. They all appeared to be

539
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:34.840
children, all come from children,
so sad, and some have theorized that

540
00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:39.639
the ghosts and screams belonged to children
who attended the former school that was there,

541
00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:45.679
while others believed that it was just
children who played in the building when

542
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:50.760
it was abandoned and then like died
accidentally in the building. Both makes sense.

543
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:57.119
Yeah, and even today neighbors claim
the house make strange sounds and they

544
00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:01.079
can hear the cries and screams of
children in the palace is closed, So

545
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:05.920
what is it now? Can you
tour? Yeah, it's a museum.

546
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.280
Oh okay, you probably said it
and I missed it. Then that was

547
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:13.320
my next sentence ahead and said it. Yet Yeah, it's open to visitors.

548
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:15.239
It was closed for a little bit
in twenty twenty because of the pandemic,

549
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.840
and then after in twenty twenty one
it opened only on Sundays. But

550
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.239
now it's opened every day from two
to ten pm. And it's a museum.

551
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.320
You can go look at the cause. Again, there's beautiful paintings.

552
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:30.960
It was the same guy who did
those Pio paintings. So yeah, that's

553
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:31.920
what it is today, Okay,
And I have one more. Do you

554
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:36.800
have time? I do have time. Okay. So this other place,

555
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:44.519
the last one we're doing, is
known as La Casa del Trebol Negro or

556
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:49.679
Clover Lawn or what clover clover?
Oh okay, yeah, clover Lawn,

557
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:54.119
and it's located in Colonia Americana,
in Guadalajara. I don't think I've been

558
00:40:54.199 --> 00:41:00.480
in that area. No, the
name clover Lawn, it comes from an

559
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:04.280
engraved like the fence. The entrance
to the house is engraved and it says

560
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:08.280
clover Lawn on it. Oh and
then that translated is Trebon Negro. Okay,

561
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:13.079
so it was. It was built
by Lord Duncan Cameron, a minor

562
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:19.159
member of British nobility. I don't
know him. So sounds like a colonizer.

563
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:23.159
Oh, one hundred percent. The
only thing I know about British nobility

564
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:28.960
comes from when I edit Vulgar History
podcast. Oh yeah, so I don't

565
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:32.519
know much about them. So each
room has a hand painted black clover in

566
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:37.079
it because Lord Duncan wanted his family
to remember their heritage when they were in

567
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:44.400
this land that is not theirs.
He then had his oldest son, George

568
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:49.920
Duncan, mary a Mexican woman named
Rosefina Rivera. She was the daughter of

569
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.880
a wealthy family from Durango. They
got married, they had four kids,

570
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:59.639
and a legend tells that for some
unknown reason, the daughter, their eldest

571
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:05.840
teenage daughter, died by suicide in
her own bedroom. And after this happened,

572
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:10.519
Hostefina took the kids and left George. We don't know why that happened,

573
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:16.039
according to legend. Okay, the
after she left, George let the

574
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:21.679
house go into disarray, and then
he eventually died. The next owner about

575
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:27.280
the house with the hopes of restoring
it, but then it never happened,

576
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:31.079
and instead he snapped for some reason
and killed his entire family and then himself.

577
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:36.840
The next owner, the next owner, Yes, wow, what the

578
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:42.239
have Yeah, sounds like it's something
in the place, okay, right right,

579
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.719
and I'm sorry. You might be
able to hear Sammy a little bit

580
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:49.639
the outside. Yeah, Yeah,
he's outside the door trying to come in.

581
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:52.840
We'll just yeah, we'll just have
to live with that. Power through

582
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:55.599
yeah, power through thank you.
In the house, there's a fountain with

583
00:42:55.719 --> 00:43:00.519
four children in it, and it
said that those were George Sunkin's kids,

584
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:07.119
like they inspired the fountain, and
there's no stories of the fountain, the

585
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:08.679
kids coming to life, or anything
like that, which I think would have

586
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:14.559
been great for me. Yeah,
but there is a rumor, an urban

587
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:20.599
legend that one of the schools in
the fountain is real. Yeah. Wow,

588
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:22.800
I don't think it's true. It's
a fun like little urban legend,

589
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:29.000
but very creepy. According to neighbors
and eyewitnesses. In the early hours of

590
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:32.719
the morning, one can hear hear
screams coming from the house and see shadows

591
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:37.719
through the windows. A woman in
white has been seen lurking around the property

592
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:42.920
at night as well, and according
to some people, blood oozes out of

593
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:46.159
the walls. Yikes. And yeah, people avoid the area the house,

594
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:50.360
they walk around it if they have
to walk on the street across the other

595
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:55.760
side. Makes sense. And yeah, that was La Casa, the Negro,

596
00:43:55.920 --> 00:44:01.000
the Clover Lawn house. Do you
know if you're remains like empty still

597
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:07.199
or what I think? So it's
not like a place open to the public

598
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:09.599
like the other places, like they're
not museums or anything. Oh okay,

599
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:16.039
mm hmm, So yeah, I
think it remains close interesting. Interesting.

600
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:21.400
So yeah, that brings us to
the end of the episode. What a

601
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:27.480
fun episode. I have been waiting
for an episode like this for a long

602
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.159
time. Me too, Me too. I still like the other episode,

603
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:34.360
so I'm not gonna I don't want
you to think that I don't. No,

604
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:37.079
I do too. But it's been
a while since we did this.

605
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:39.760
Yeah, yeah, so yeah,
we went back to our roots for this

606
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:51.159
one. Anyway, before we go, any spooky recommendations, Nope, no,

607
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:55.000
okay, yeah no. I haven't
really listened to anything or watch anything

608
00:44:55.119 --> 00:45:00.480
new since the last time we recorded, so no, okay. I'm trying

609
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:04.840
to think if I did, but
I don't think I have either. I

610
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:10.320
have been working, I've been busy. I've been busy writing episodes of horror

611
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:15.079
Story. I do recommend that it's
very fun. We just did Sorry you

612
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:21.280
can hear My Child. We just
did one on Linda Vista Hospital and there

613
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:23.119
was a couple of creepy stories I
came across that I had not heard about

614
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:27.559
the hospital, so that was very
fun. I recommend it because they're creepy.

615
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:30.039
I'm gonna check it out. I
haven't listened to this week's or the

616
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:34.719
most recent episode. I mean,
m yeah, you should. It's good.

617
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.920
It's a good one. But I
think that's probably my only recommendation,

618
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:42.400
because yeah, I haven't been watching
or doing anything because I had no free

619
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:45.159
time. I guess I don't know
what I've been doing. Oh you know

620
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:47.199
what, it's because I've been whenever
I do have free time, I've been

621
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:52.880
listening to the Bones Booth podcast.
That's why I'm on season five of their

622
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:57.920
recap episodes. Now, wow,
wow, I don't know what I've been

623
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:02.760
listening to. Randomally, I was
because so I've only been I was listening

624
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:08.559
last time recommended the book No My
Name, and I haven't even listened that

625
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:13.480
much to that. I still have, I mean, like the last chapter

626
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:15.559
and I haven't I've only listened to
a little bit of it. So I'm

627
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:17.840
like trying to think of what I've
been listening to and I don't really even

628
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:22.440
know. But I was driving the
other day and then randomly, like I

629
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:27.000
hadn't even opened or I opened Spotify, but I hadn't clicked on an episode

630
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:29.960
it or not and usually it plays
the last thing I listened to, and

631
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:35.719
it randomly started playing el episode of
Estodia's Unknown. Wow. Weird, like

632
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:37.760
a sign from the universe, And
I was like, I was like,

633
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:39.159
I think the universe is telling me
that I need to listen to this again,

634
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:45.039
and so I did. Yeah,
it's so depressing but important, And

635
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:49.280
that's the most recent thing I listened
to. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah,

636
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.159
sounds a wite right. Anyway,
on that note, to check out

637
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:57.679
our history podcast called The Estodias Unknown, where we talk about Latin American history,

638
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:01.920
sometimes horrible things like massacres, other
times happier things like heroic dogs,

639
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:07.800
but all Latin American more often than
not horrible things. So yeah, yeah,

640
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:15.159
that's true. We also have a
tele novela I mean rewatch podcasts where

641
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:20.559
we rewatch episodes of TETSA and recap
them, laugh, admire, have fun,

642
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:23.719
yeah, have fun. Yeah.
And then we also gossip gossip about

643
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:27.079
internet things at the end of that, and you can find that on YouTube.

644
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:30.280
I've been forgetting to add the links. We accidentally had a video go

645
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:35.639
set my Meani tiny viral and I
did not like it. I almost was

646
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:38.920
like, should we just not do
this anymore? It was scary, Honestly,

647
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:44.519
I'm like, let's give up.
Yeah, I had the same thoughts.

648
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:47.320
We talked about girl defined and if
you know, you know, there's

649
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:52.639
no time to explain. Yeah,
yeah, funny thing. I need to

650
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:57.320
talk about defund the's again next time. So, oh, I'm so scary.

651
00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:01.599
I'm sorry. I can't stop anyway. That that is on YouTube.

652
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:07.559
You can find it chronically online.
Con that's our YouTube Internet cheez my podcast.

653
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:13.599
Yes, I'm scared to do sometimes
it is scary. You can also

654
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:16.519
find us as Spooky Tails on YouTube. Some other newer videos will be on

655
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:21.159
there, and or the newer videos
are on there. And I've been meaning

656
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:24.079
to record some other things. That's
just me, but it just hasn't happened.

657
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:30.880
We will do our book club our
episode soon. I have not written

658
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:36.599
it. Oh my god, I'm
so sorry to everyone. Our next book

659
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:42.039
club episode is Vampires of norte By. And yeah, on that note,

660
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:45.559
we will end the episode. I
guess watch out for a little red haired

661
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:49.039
boy. If a little red hair
boy beckons you into a room, do

662
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:53.119
not follow. Don't follow Benito.
Don't follow Benito. No, only Benito

663
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:58.400
to follow is bad, bunny.
Except when you was talking shit about Elogi,

664
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:01.440
I don't like that. He's done
a lot of problematic things we can't

665
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:04.360
get into right now. Yeah,
yeah, that's the least of it.

666
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:10.440
Probably, Like that time he said
that people from Ada that they can't dance.

667
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:14.400
Oh I didn't even know he said
that, yeah, and then he

668
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:19.880
went and got with Kendall Jenner right, oh yeah, yeah Candelada as they

669
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:23.119
were calling her. Yes, yes, and famously can't dance. So yeah

670
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:29.119
yeah. So anyway, no time, you gotta go, stay spooky and

671
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:36.119
we'll catch everyone next time. Bye
bye. Spooky Tales is hosted by Christina

672
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:40.360
and MJ, produced and edited by
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673
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:45.159
Christina MJ and with the help of
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674
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675
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676
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682
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683
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684
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that's fine, join the Patreon then
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685
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adorable beanie that I love. I
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686
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it's warm, it has a spooky
in Old English letters. There's also a

687
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:45.440
baseball hat in the same way as
spooky and Old English letters, and that's

688
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:49.719
what I wear in the summers.
They're both awesome hats. And there's other

689
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things in there, like the no
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690
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shirt. If you like history,
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691
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Unknown, hosted with the unofficial official
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692
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:05.159
Carmen, And if you like no
ve last, checkout Novelasko Cofisito, which

693
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Carmen and I also host together.
And yeah, we love every single listen

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every single a spooky Thank you so
much, Stay as spooky