A Mexican Ghost in New Jersey and a Tragic Landslide

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Hey everyone, this is Christina.
Oh, oh wow, Carmen's burping.

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Stop don't say that. People don't
know that I burp. How everyone,

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this is Carmen. Sorry, I
have a cough drop in my mouth.

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My children got Carmen sick. Also, yeah, Carmen is on this episode,

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not MJ. MJ is having technical
computer issues with two different devices.

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So so unfortunate, very unfortunate.
And we're recording very last minute because of

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that. Oh, it's coming out
tomorrow. Yes, this is tomorrow's episode.

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Oh, we are recording the night
before. Wow. Yes, So

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the lovely official no sorry, unofficial
official guest co host Carmen is here today.

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Get it straight. Today we are
keeping with the disaster theme because it's

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been it's been on my mind.
Why why Because it's been on my mind.

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I don't like it. I've been
obsessing over it. I need you

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to stop. I need you to
move on to another topic, and actually

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I will. After this, we're
gonna do Gloria Trevi. Oh wow,

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yeah, so are you free?
Yeah? Yeah, yeah cool. I

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will make myself half time. Good
good, yeah, I'm very excited for

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that. That's gonna be the topic
after this one and before we get to

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the topic and the listener story.
I just want to say, it's been

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amazing seeing everyone share their Spotify wrapped. I love seeing all the different podcasts

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that people have combined us with.
Sometimes there's a lot of other Spooky things

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and other podcasts that I also love
listening to, like or Susto or get

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Spooky podcasts. Well, you were
number five on mine. Oh you didn't

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show me your list. You're right, I didn't. I forgot. Well,

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well let's let's bring it out right
now. What is it? Let's

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see? Sorry you forgetting How to
get to it? Who lose it?

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Oh? There it is. You
go to your ass up and then you

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click Onlatina says Spotify raps or something, But then you have to skip through

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a budget of things to get to
the podcast. I accidentally skipped. Uh.

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What was your your song? Your
number one song? It was Carol

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Gee. Okay, son, that's
a good one. My number one song

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was Lizzo. Truth hurts because the
child, My child was assessed with it

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and he didn't understand. Lizzo was
canceled. My top artist was still Bad

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Bunny, and then it was Cattle
Gee, and then it was Taylor Swift.

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Wow, I'm surprised. It's because
I so, I feel like me

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and Paul don't have that much artists
in common except Taylor Swift. He's a

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Swiftie. He likes Taylor Swift's older
songs. I was gonna say, I

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will be honest, I have not
heard any of her new songs. And

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then now is the number four?
Sorry because you wasn't skipping through it.

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No, it's fine, and I
don't know why. I think it's only

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because you would come up on when
I would randomly play like some random and

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don't play this. But j Baalbin
was number five, and I don't like

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that at all. I know,
I know, I don't even like him,

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and so I'm like, what the
hell? Wow, yeah, I

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don't like That's why I didn't share
my top five. We'll cut. That

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is okay, and that's why we
drink. Was number one, mine was

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two, actually, and that's why
we drink. Okay. It's so I

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spent sixty nine, five hundred and
three minutes with podcasts. Damn it.

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I actually went back. Okay,
hold on, that's I regret this question.

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It's almost done. Okay, there
it goes, And that's why we

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drink five. Four, Save You're
Sorry? Oh my Savior Sorry was also

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in my top five reddit on wiki
and it's Bookie tells, Oh my god,

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why do we have such a similar
top five? Okay, mine was

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my number one was and that's what
we drink number two. My child has

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my phone, so I can't like, Oh, look at I'm trying to

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remember. I don't remember the order
of them anymore. I know Rheitor on

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wiki was in there. Then Savior
sorry was also in there? True or

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none? True? Oh yeah,
I think that's five. Have I only

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said four? I mean I wasn't
counting, and I'm sorry. I don't

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remember them anymore. I can't check. Oh you didn't say it right out

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on wiki? I think? Okay, hold on, and that's what we

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drink right on wiki, Save your
Sorry? True and on? That's four.

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Oh what was the other one?
Did you save You're sorry? Yes?

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Oh? Midnight Burger? Oh oh, I love Midnight Burger. I

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don't know what that is. I
think it told me before I have.

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It's an it's an audio fiction podcast. It's like a fiction one. I

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can't do those, I'm sorry.
I know some people can't. So yeah,

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those were our top five. We
said them all horribly and we're sorry,

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but again, I have loved seeing
everyone tigers in theirs. Yeah,

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and it was fun seeing like because
as a podcast you get your own list

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or your own Spotify wrapped. Yeah, it's wild to see all those numbers

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in one place. So yeah,
thank you, thank you everyone. All

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of that is possible because of you. And also someone asked for the Spooky

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hotline number for you to actually say
it on Spotify. Yeah, they're like,

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what's the number where we can leave
voicemails? So that number is three

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six zero eight three six four four
eight six. And I'll say it again,

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three six zero eight three six four
four eight six. It's always in

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the show notes, but not everybody
looks at those, so yeah, I

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should start saying it. But also
you can attach a voice note to an

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email that works too, and voice
notes attached to an email can be longer

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the voicemail cuts off like a minute
and a half or so. So yeah,

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if you have stories that you want
to send to the podcast, you

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can email a Spooks at gmail dot
com. You can dm us at any

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of our socials. You can call
the number I just shared three six zero

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eight three six four four eight six. No one's gonna answer. It's gonna

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go straight to voicemail. Then you
can leave your story. Those are options,

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and here is this one. Hi
ladies, I recently found your podcast

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and I love it. I want
to submit my story, but I would

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also like to be called Trish.
You got a Trish Wow twins. When

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I was about nine or ten,
my family lived in the outskirts of my

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little town. So my house was
right by a huge cornfield, and there

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was a two lane highway right by
my house as well. One day,

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my siblings and I, along with
my brother's friend were playing outside and found

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a big ceramic doll head that had
a metal rod sticking out underneath the head.

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Oh god, that sounds terrifying.
My brother and his friend decided to

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get a red sharply marker and color
the eyes red so it would look evil.

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The rod wasn't enough, okay no, and also the single head,

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the head by itself, Yeah,
that wasn't enough. The eyes that needed

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to be red. My brother and
his friend thought it would be a good

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idea to turn the doll into a
Ouiji board of sorts. They started to

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ask the doll questions. They would
drop the doll, and if the answer

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was yes, the doll would stick
up the ground so like they would drop

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it, and if it landed up
right, it was a yes, which

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they made up these parameters you could
say, and if the answer was no,

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it would drop sideways. I can't
remember every question, but the one

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question I remember was are you going
to hurt someone? As my brother dropped

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the doll, the head stuck in
the dirt. The next thing I know,

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a red truck crashed into the cornfield
by my house. Now some people

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might think it's a coincidence, but
I know whoever they were communicating with was

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an evil spirit. Luckily, the
older couple that was driving the truck was

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okay, but their vehicle was damaged. I was so terrified after that happened.

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I didn't leave my mom's side that
whole day after the incident happened,

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and my brother and his friend destroyed
the doll head and we never spoke of

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the incident again. That happened thirty
years ago, and I still remember I

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have never participated in anything like that
since that day. Thank you for reading

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my email, and I hope you
feature my story on your podcast. Well

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you got it. Trish, I
have two recommendations for scary shows that I

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watched religiously. The shows are Paranormal
Caught on Camera, which I'm talk okay,

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I was like, what have you
talked about that? Love? We

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also had someone who had their story
on Paranormal currently I don't remember that,

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oh episodes ago and it was like
below fifty. She her video was like

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her baby was in the crib and
was like caught talking to someone, but

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you could hear a voice God.
Paranormal call on camera and these woods are

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hunted. Both shows are on the
Travel Channel. Smiley face. Uh yes,

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thanks Trish. Uh that was creepy. I don't know what would what

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would possess you to grab a doll
that look like that? I would ever

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no, and yeah if it was
a coincidence, a strange coincidence indeed.

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M Also sorry for my voice.
I'm still sick. No, sorry,

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I'm sick again. Uh yeah,
also me Carmen too. Yeah, but

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your voice sounds better than mine.
I think I have a better immune system,

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just kidding, because I don't have
children. Well, you got the

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illness for my children, So I
do think you have a better immune system

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than me. Because I was dying. So yeah, thanks Tri Chigan for

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your story. Very creepy and okay, onto the episode topic. As I

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told you, Carmen, I'm still
obsessed with disasters and I'm over it,

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but this one's not as bad.
Although MJ wrote notes for this episode which

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Karmen's gonna read, and thank you
MJ for your notes. Yeah, thank

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you. Uh so heard that that
is worse tragic tragedy than the one I

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have. Actually, do you want
to go first? Do I go first?

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I could go first. Yeah,
let's get over the worst one first.

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Okay, all right, so again, thank you MJ for these notes,

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and let's get on with it.
So while many people were paranoid and

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terrified of the world ending once the
New Millennium began on January first, two

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thousand, White two k sorry White, Okay, it never happened, but

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it was a different story for the
people of Vadagas, Venezuela, who most

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likely felt like the world was ending. And I feel like it sounds so

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stuffy, So I'm so sorry people. You suddenly sound more sick. Yeah

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it's acause I keep reading. I
sound worse. Yeah right now. I

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sounded normal before I started the episode, but then the more you talk,

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I think, the more your voice
gets. Like that's how that was at

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work today and I told my intern, I'm like, I'm sorry, I

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haven't talked as much and my throat
hurts. Yeah. Yeah, that's what

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ends up happening. Okay, back
to this. Yeah. You see,

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as the world was preparing to bring
in the new year, the state of

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Vadagas was hit with a torrential rainfall
that triggered deadly floods and mudslides over the

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course of ten days that eventually killed
about ten percent of the population once everything

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was over. And wow, that's
a lot, it is. The rain

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first began early December nineteen ninety nine. As the days went on, a

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total of nine hundred eleven millimeters of
rain hit the area, which is about

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as much rain as the area was
used to getting throughout one entire year.

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That is a lot. Yeah,
my god, So ten days they got

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what they normally get in one year. On the sixteenth alone, seventy two

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millimeters of rain accumulated in one hour
alone, from six am to seven am.

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Wow. The large amounts of rainfall
pounding the state created widespread soil instability

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and debris flow. Debris. You
don't pronounce us huh debris? Yeah,

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you don't. You pronounces yeah.
And even though mostly everyone was aware that

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the area was prone to mudslides and
flooding, the disaster happened in December instead

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of May through October, which is
considered the country's rainy season, so many

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locals were caught off guard. Makes
sense. As the remain continued to come

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down, large debris flows that carried
large boulders and tree trunks rapidly hit several

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highly populated towns and cities out of
velocity rate that scientists have estimated was about

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three point three to fourteen point five
meters per second. Wow. These fast

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moving debris flows destroyed tall buildings,
bridges, electric poles, and roads at

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the end, entire towns like Sero
Grande and Garmin de Uria. Carmen,

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Oh, Cadman, No, this
is said. Sorry, that was unnecessary.

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This is a tragic event. Yikes. They were completely wiped out.

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Oh my god, that's terrible,
and the entire states infrastructure collapsed. This

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is horrible. About ten thousand to
thirty thousand people are believed to have lost

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their lives, even though officials cannot
be sure of the number since the countries

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they're not have reliable census data at
the time. Oh my god. A

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thousand bodies were eventually recovered, and
the other bodies are believed to have either

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been swept into the sea or buried
under the landslides. Wow. About eight

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thousand homes and seven hundred apartment buildings
were destroyed, displacing up to seventy five

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thousand people. Wow. The state's
infrastructure failure led to a food, water,

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and medicine shortage that forced the government
to bring in the military for help

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and triggered martial law in the area
for about a year so that officials could

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help evacuate residents and stop widespread looting. Initially, Venezuela's president Ugochavis accepted the

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international help of any country willing to
help with response efforts, and agreed to

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allow the US to send four hundred
and fifty marines and naval engineers. But

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just before arriving in Venezuela, so
I was changed his mind and decided to

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decline the offer because I'm sure that
this is not far that notes, this

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is just me. I'm sure the
United States was just looking for a reason

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or reason to have military there.
Yeah, they actually, I think,

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what the hell was I listening to? Was it the latest Geopolitical Yeah?

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No, sorry, I was listening
to an episode of Empire Files, And

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there's an episode where the guy debunks
John Oliver's. John Oliver dedicated a whole

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special of his show Eachbo Tonight or
whatever it's called to like Venezuela things.

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But he got like a bunch of
things wrong, and so then Empire Files

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went and like debunked everything. He
said. I don't think I listened to

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that, but I think it was. It was an episode of Geopolitical Economy,

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and I just don't remember which one, but he talks about how the

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United States will often use an excuse
as of aid of sending aid to actually

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send military. Yeah. Yeah,
it's a thing. It's a thing,

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for sure, So I do not
blame yeah. Instead, the country accepted

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help from other nations and raised several
million dollar from international organizations and charities.

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Eventually, the refugees of Vadagas returned
to the state to attempt to rebuild their

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homes themselves. It took several years, but by two thousand and six the

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population and Vadagas was similar to that
population the state had before the disaster,

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Yet the state still struggled as it
solely rebuilt its infrastructure. The disaster has

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even been labeled the second most fatal
landslide in history according to Guinness World Record

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Wow Records World Records, because there's
merely one record right. One man was

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even quoted saying, if an apocalypse
exists, this was the worst. I

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saw people get dragged by the waters
as they yelled for help. I still

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have nightmares about it, and that
wakes me up at night. Oh I'm

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sorry, nightmares about it. That
wake me up at night, right right.

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Kadimin de Uria was one of the
talents that was impacted by the landslides

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the most. The town was completely
destroyed and labeled a camposanto, which is

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a place where you lay the dead
to rest. Currently, about three hundred

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people inhabit the town, and it's
surrounded by several crosses that were laid to

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honor and mark those who died during
the tragedy. Many people who live in

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the town today say they have a
hard time sleeping because at now you hear

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and feel the english of many people
who died during the tragedy. Others say

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they hear voices screaming at night or
the sounds of water levels rising. There's

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also a church in the impacted area
had said that many people who were taking

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shelter inside were dragged by the flood
of waters, but the temple withstood the

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damage, and when everything was said
and done, mostly everything was destroyed except

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the holy statues. What about the
people? Yeah, what about the people?

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Overall? Many people who live in
these towns in the state of Vodga's

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all report hearing disembodied voices and cries
at night. Oh wow, yeah,

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Okay, so my own is not

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as sad as that one, although
it is a disaster crash turned into a

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hunting. This one's a little different
because it's a Mexican ghost hunting New Jersey.

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Wow. Yes, yes, But
before getting into the hunting and Lolan,

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of course, I have to tell
you about the pilots turned gost after

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a terrible accident. So Capitan or
Captain Emilio Caranza Rodriguez was born December ninth,

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nineteen oh five in Villa Ramos Arispe, Guaguila, Mexico. He was

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a famous Mexican pilot and a national
hero. His father worked at the Mexican

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Consulate in New York, which is
why Emilio spent time in San Antonio,

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at Paso al Paso and Sidad,
Mexico as a child, and he spoke

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fluent English. Because of that.
He graduated from the Military Academy of Mexico

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City in nineteen twenty four with high
honors, and that same year he married

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Maria Luisa Gorbala. And he is
also the nephew great nephew of former President

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Venusiano Caranza. Okay, and he
did some military stuff. I'm not gonna

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get into that because honestly, this
kind of bores me. So yeah,

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he did some stuff in the military
as well. And he also set a

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bunch of records, flying records,
pilot records. You know. He made

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the first NonStop flight from Sudan,
Mexico to s Juarez, and this was

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a total of one thousand, two
hundred miles, so he was the first

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to that. Wow. Then four
years later, in nineteen twenty eight,

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at only age twenty two, he
set the record for the third longest non

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stop flight ever. Wow, you
said twenty two? He was twenty two.

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Yeah. Wow. He went from
San Diego to Mexico City, which

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is a total of one thousand,
five hundred and seventy five miles and this

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was the longest NonStop flight by a
Mexican. Wow. Yeah, so he's

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putting Mexico on the map. Yes, Sipe. His record breaking feats did

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not all go smoothly. During one
of his attempts, he crashed in Sonora

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and his face had to be reassembled
with platinum screws. EWI. That didn't

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stop him. His accomplishments made him
just as well known as other famous pilots,

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like the American Ameliar Heart, the
American Charles Lindberg. What did you

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say, Amelia your Heart? Oh
yeah, she's the only pilot I know.

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She is the only pilot I recognized, the only American pilot I recognize.

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Yes. And Tom Hanks he's a
pilot. No, he was in

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that movie playing the pilot who planted
was like a drug. Oh my god.

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Yeah, yeah, I don't remember
his name, but I remember Tom

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Hanks. Okay, yeah, Well
do you recognize the name Charles Lindberg?

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No? Okay, so I guess
I'll get a little bit into who too.

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Charles Lindberg is because some people might
recognize the name, but not everyone

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does. I do, but for
different reasons, not because of he was

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a pilot, but because of the
case of the Lindberg baby. Does that

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sound familiar to you? No,
we'll I'll get into both. So Charles

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Lindberg was a famous American pilot and
military officer. He was the first to

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fly nonstuff from New York City to
Paris. Wow, which is a lot

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of miles m hm. And he
was the first to fight alone for thirty

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three point four hours. Ever,
that was like his record he set.

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He also completed what's called a good
will tour in Latin America. During this

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good will tour, he stopped in
Mexico, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Coca Parma,

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Co, Columbia, Venezuela, Perto
Rico, the Dominican Republic, Haiti,

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and Cuba, just to name a
few places. Wow. Oh well,

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speaking of on Ludas, my music
taste was similar to people in some

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town in Holudas. Wow. What
about yours? Do you remember? I

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don't remember. It was somewhere in
the US though, because my well,

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let me explain to you. I
had Spotify where Kyle had a playlist that

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was his, but we didn't have
it split as a premium duo. Oh

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so like a lot of his songs
got saved as like that's why I listened

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to the most. My god,
I could never share mine, yeah,

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never share, So my top songs
were like those were mine. So it

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was like truth Herds, hmmm,
this know the product Biza rap song,

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and then Shakira and bizar rap and
then like and hefe by Shakira oh,

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and then Misery Business by Paramore.
But then my most listened to genres all

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got mixed with his, which is
like a lot of rock and like I

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don't know emo music. I don't
know what the genre is. I can't

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remember rock. Is this the rock? I don't know? But anyway,

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so I got like, your tastes
are similar to like this town in somewhere

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in the like East Coast. Oh
wow. And it was all because he

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listened to like Shine Down Cohen and
Cambria, Rise Against and those That's what

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So it's not my reel. It's
not real for me, you know,

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I see. Yeah, it doesn't
reflect you. It doesn't reflect me,

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No, not at all. Anyway, Yeah, back to this, how

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did this happen? Oh, because
he's just speaking of abunacyes. Yeah,

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sorry, So yeah, Charles en
Burg decorated a well known famous American pilot.

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But if you don't know him from
his pilot stuff, he is well

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known because of the Lindbergh kidnapping.
So and this might bring a bell on

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a few people. But this happened
in nineteen thirty two, and it was

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the crime of the century as what
like it was like a media circus.

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Wow. On March first, nineteen
thirty two, his twenty two month old

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baby, Charles Augustus Lindberg Junior,
was taken from his crib and he was

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kidnapped for ransom and the ransom money
was given, but he wasn't They couldn't

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find him. There was a wide
search for this baby. It went on

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for a while, and it was
in until May twelfth. Then the baby's

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remains were found in the woods right
by their house. Oh wow, and

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it was him all along. No, there was a kidnapper name. Oh

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sorry, I'm sorry, please,
I didn't mean it well, the way

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I wrote it didn't doesn't make it
obvious. The kidnapper turned out to be

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Richard Hotman, who was arrested because
he was found paying things with those ransom

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bills the ransom money, and then
they searched his house they found the rest

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of the ransom money. He went
to trial. Of course, he was

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found guilty because he was and then
he was executed on April third, nineteen

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thirty six. Oh wow, but
that is a little bit about Charles Lindbergh,

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who was an inspiration for Emilio Carnzar
Rodriguez so much so that he set

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out to fly the same route that
Charles Lindbergh did. Oh my god,

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Well it was Mexico City to a
specific place in the United States. That

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was the flight that Charles Linberg had
done before San Diego. Oh maybe it

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was, oh maybe it was New
York City. It wasn't like the record

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breaking one. It was like just
one of his routes they had done.

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And this so it's gonna be like
a good will flight. And what a

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good wolf flight? Like a flight
that is like for good a good cause,

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like publicity, Okay, to put
the country's name out there. Oh

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so Charlesenburg himself donated for this flight
and Emilio Caranza received a brand new plane

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called the Mexico Excelsior Wow. The
majority of the funding for this, it

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came from Mexico themselves, like the
public. They raised twenty five thousand dollars.

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Charles Nburg contributed like two thousand dollars
something like that. And it was

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going well because it's it's like a
tour, so they'll fly and stop in

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the city, fly and stop in
the city, and that's what he did.

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It was going well. Everywhere he
stopped in the US, he was

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met by a crowd of people.
During this tour. He was given a

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key to New York City by the
mayor. Firefighters gave him a medal.

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Troops greeted him at West Point.
There was a whole field dedicated to him

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in Massachusetts, like a bunch of
good stuff. And then when he was

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in New York City, he got
delayed returning to Mexico. The weather was

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so bad that he stayed in New
York City. And according to legend,

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on July twelfth, Emilio Krenzi received
a telegram from one of the Mexican military

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like leaders or whatever, and he
was demanding Emilio to return to Mexico or

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his manhood would have been questioned,
what why, like, what what does

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that mean? Like he needs to
fly back and stop being a little bit

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basically, oh, because the weather
was bad. Because the weather was being

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bad. Yeah, oh okay,
Okay, this turns out to be false.

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It's just part of the legend,
which makes it all worse. Right,

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So he wasn't act told that.
No, no, this didn't happen.

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Oh okay. And so during a
break between thunderstorms, Emilio decided to

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leave New York City instead of waiting
for all of it to be over.

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No one knows why he didn't wait
longer. He wasn't being rushed back like

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you know the legend tells. But
he left. He told everyone he was

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going to fly toward Washington, d
C. And that was going to be

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his like next stop or something like
that. And so while he was flying,

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flying over the pilants of New Jersey, he crashed into the woods.

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When he was found the and I'm
going to explain this because when I read

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I was like, what the hell
does that mean? Okay, So the

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engine throttle was closed and the spark
lever was in the advanced position of course,

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yes, yeah, yes, very
much. Yeah, very much.

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So, yeah, this just means
he attempted to land before crashing. Okay,

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Yeah, there was a man named
John H. Carr who was picking

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berries and they with his family and
they came across the crash site and Emilio

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Caranza. How unfortunate to be picking
berries and then come up to that.

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Yeah, right, So they found
him and they went, you know,

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over to tell police, and they
retrieved him. And he crashed because of

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the weather because of how bad it
was. He couldn't see. And these

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are not like fancy planes like now, these were the nineteen thirties, so

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I don't even think planes had like
a proper light or he just didn't have

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one, because apparently he had a
flashlight that and that's how he was trying

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to see. Oh my god.
Yeah. So Emilia Kranza's casket was draped

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with American flag. This flag still
hangs in the Mexico School of Aviation.

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His casket was transported to Mexico via
train and he was transported to the train

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station with full military honors, like
ten thousand troops marched to the train station

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to say goodbye to his body to
deliver it to Mexico. Two hundred thousand

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people lined up to watch him as
he left, which I don't know pilots

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were such a big deal, Like, I mean, I didn't know that

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either. This is not a thing
today obviously, because planes were barely like

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yeah, I mean it makes sense, I guess because not everybody. Yeah,

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there was only so much planes back
then, or so many planes,

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yeah, right, exactly. In
Mexico, the national flags were flown at

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half staff. They received the body. He was buried in the Lota Cemetery

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in Suda, Mexico. During the
procession, one hundred thousand Mexicans marched to

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where he was going to be buried, and he was promoted to general after

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his death. In nineteen twenty nine, the United States delivered a pine tree

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from the crash site, and that
tree was planted next to his grave,

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and I don't know if it's still
there. In nineteen thirty one, there

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was a monument to Emrio Kranza that
was built in the Wharton State Forest in

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New Jersey where the trash took trash
bad where the took place. And every

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year there's a little ceremony in his
honor. Over the years, it's less

405
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:07.759
and less people go because I think
less and less people know about him.

406
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.519
Yeah, but at the beginning it
was full of people. And the monument

407
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.920
itself is in obelisk looking statue.
There is an image of an Aztec eagle

408
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:21.759
on one side, an arrow pointing
to the sky on the other side,

409
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.799
and then there's the words messenger of
peace, the people of Mexico hope that

410
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:30.880
your high ideals will be realized homage
of the children of Mexico to the aviator

411
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:36.960
Captain Emilio Caranza, who died tragically
on July thirteenth, nineteen twenty eight in

412
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:40.519
his good wilf flight. And then
on the other side there are footprints that

413
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:45.599
are supposed to like show his last
final footsteps. It was built in Mexico

414
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.759
and then it was sent to New
Jersey, and the site where the crash

415
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:55.680
happened and where the monument can be
found is said to be hunted. It

416
00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:57.880
also happens to be the same woods
that the Jersey Devil has been seen.

417
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:02.000
Have you heard that story? I
think I have. I'm sure you have,

418
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:05.319
like and that's why We Drink has
covered it, and a bunch of

419
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:08.160
paranormal podcasts I think they have at
least and see why they wouldn't have.

420
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.160
I don't know. Yeah, I
did listen. It was like one of

421
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:15.160
the earlier episodes. I think I'm
pretty sure about the Jersey Devil, right

422
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:19.279
right, So according to legend,
if you flash your car lights three times

423
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:24.279
at the monument and yell Emilio,
you will hear the plane and see Emilio

424
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:31.240
Kranza's final flashlight signal from right before
he crashed. Wow. And I found

425
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:36.440
three creepy encounters from where the monument
is at. I found the first two

426
00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:44.799
at WEIRDNJ dot com MJ. It's
like an n like New Jersey n sorrye,

427
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:50.640
not like MJ. And then the
last one on Reddit. So here's

428
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.119
the first one. There's an intensely
frightening place not too far from Southampton.

429
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:58.680
It has been called Karana for as
long as I remember for reasons. I

430
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:01.279
don't know pass story. We do
know it, yes, yes, because

431
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:05.640
of the pilot. So because of
this episode. You know, not that

432
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:07.119
this prison's listening, I mean it
would be there. They are maybe they

433
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:12.079
Okay, so let me go on. Now. It is a long road

434
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.559
and there is a juvenile detention center
that's about halfway down the road. After

435
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.279
that, there's nothing just the woods
all the way back there. There's some

436
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:23.119
memorial for a fallen military pilot.
It is so haunted. There's something in

437
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:28.359
the back trails that has left us
running to our car faster than then we

438
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:31.240
even thought we could run. If
you stand on top of the memorial site,

439
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:35.480
it's even more creepy. It's about
seven to eight feet off the ground.

440
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:37.839
I have pictures from people with the
fog around them on top of the

441
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:43.039
stone. I was once up there. After taking some pictures, I went

442
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:46.519
to get off. I slipped and
fell. I grabbed on by the tips

443
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:50.920
of my fingers. I felt something
catch me, though no one did.

444
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:53.839
I shouldn't have been able to hold
myself up, but I did. Seems

445
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:58.480
like a nice thing, honestly.
Yeah, I don't know what else.

446
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:00.440
It sounds like they say, you
do you, thank you, Emilio,

447
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:13.599
gracias, Emilio, Yeah, you
saved Albert B. That's who wrote that

448
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:19.320
comment. The Nada Alberto. Well, no, this isn't in the United

449
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:24.159
States. So this is Albert,
the Nada Albert. Okay, So the

450
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:29.440
next one, this is from local
Kitty. Okay, it's they spelled local

451
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:34.280
like four locos. The k the
k M H perhaps as an ode to

452
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.960
the four loco could be. As
the local lore goes, if you park

453
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:42.119
your car at the gate, flash
the headlights on the memorial three times,

454
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:45.400
and yell Emilio. I don't know
why I have to yell it like that,

455
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:50.880
Emilio at the window, you will
see his plane. Of course,

456
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.280
we have to try it. We
followed the instructions. At about ten minutes

457
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:58.760
later, my friend's car stalled for
no reason. We threw it in drive

458
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.840
and began rolling out there. She
kept asking us what the lights were behind

459
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:07.039
us. My other friend turned around
and saw nothing. It was a media

460
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:10.679
She swore she saw lights in the
rear view mirror. We figured she was

461
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:14.639
just trying to scare us, but
suddenly we saw them too. They were

462
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:17.320
too high to be card lights and
too low to be a plane. Needless

463
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:21.800
to say, she dropped the hammer, and what does that mean? She

464
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:23.840
dropped the hammer and we got out
of there as fast as possible. She

465
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:29.880
lost her shit. I don't know. I don't know she dropped the subject

466
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:32.199
or was she? I don't know. Sorry, this is one of those

467
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:37.760
sayings that we just don't know.
I guess it's a New Jersey thing or

468
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:39.440
an American thing. I don't know
I had. Yeah. I think it's

469
00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:42.480
just like an American saying, because
we didn't know a lot of them.

470
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:49.639
Yeah yeah, because englishas were second
language. Okay, And this other one

471
00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:54.599
is the one I found on Reddit. And this was posted by Oh it's

472
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:58.079
deleted. Actually I don't know who
posted it. But it was posted two

473
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:01.480
years ago on the Creeping Counters of
Reddit, and it's titled I Will never

474
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:06.760
go back there again. And in
their post they never said where they were

475
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:08.280
at, and then in the comments
they were like, oh, this is

476
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:12.639
the God on Time Memorial in New
Jersey. Oh, okay, it's never

477
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.400
said in the story, but later
they clarified it. So this is quite

478
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:22.679
long, so buggle up parentheses worth
it all caps. Before my best friends

479
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:25.639
and I were separated, one passed
away rip and the other moved away.

480
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:30.800
We used to ride around doing all
of the haunted legend places within reasonable driving

481
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:37.119
distances. Sounds fun, right way
to make memories. Sometimes we drive a

482
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:42.280
few hours, but most of them
weren't scary other than the adrenaline field hyped

483
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:44.920
up. Did you hear that?
Did you see that? That would cause

484
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:49.000
us to get spooked? This one
was different way different. We were just

485
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:52.119
out of high school, probably twenty
at most, and we were looking for

486
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.400
an actually scary place to visit.
A lot of the people we knew were

487
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:59.679
getting into these kinds of things,
so we'd always get tips on where to

488
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:02.000
go. There was the original three
of us That day, I had another

489
00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:07.519
friend that wanted to tag along.
After a little drive to Regestination about forty

490
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:10.639
five minutes, we stopped to get
gas and grab a few snacks. Like

491
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:15.119
I stated earlier, we were all
about twenty, all hyped up because we

492
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:19.239
knew spooky time was getting close.
We'd always pick on the other friend that

493
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:22.639
tagged along, nothing harsh, just
things like, ah, you're scared.

494
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.920
So I believe it was me that
said something along those lines that was overheard

495
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.960
by other people at the gas station. It got the attention of a few

496
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:35.480
people in the gas station, including
the two creepy older guys who seemed like

497
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:37.440
they didn't fit in their clothes,
were all beat up and dirty, and

498
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:40.880
they just didn't seem right for the
area. Okay, so what you hate

499
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:45.280
about Reddit? Okay? Sorry,
yeah, no, you're right. It

500
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:47.639
was probably eight pm on a Saturday
night. What's the little one scared?

501
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:52.559
Of, asked one of the guys
who talks like that. Nobody, Okay,

502
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:57.079
go on, sorry, I say
little because the three of us are

503
00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:01.039
probably abnormally tall. The shortest between
us three was six' four, and

504
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:06.760
he was normal height, like five' nine the little one, what flo

505
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:09.840
do we want scared of? What's
the baby scared of? Went? Do

506
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:15.320
we do? Baby scared? We
replied and explained how we got tipped to

507
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:20.199
go to this road because it's haunted. They replied that it wasn't that scary,

508
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:22.079
and that if we wanted real scared, we should go to this other

509
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.679
random road. I forget what it
was called exactly, but apparently there's this

510
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:30.400
random memorial statue for a plane crash
in the middle of the woods that crazy

511
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:35.039
things are supposed to happen at.
We grabbed our stuff and didn't think anything

512
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:37.199
of it. As soon as we
left, the group started talking. We

513
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:40.199
grabbed our stuff and didn't think anything
of it. As soon as we left,

514
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:44.320
the groups started talking and decided to
go with the other road that those

515
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:47.159
guys hyped up. I know,
a typical horror movie what not to do.

516
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:51.599
So we get to the entrance of
the road and it already did not

517
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:55.719
disappoint woods on both sides, not
one damn street light in sight, and

518
00:38:55.760 --> 00:39:00.480
I remember there was like a detention
center off to the right in the middle

519
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:04.519
of nowhere. So the spooks already
began. The second we hit the entrance.

520
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:07.599
We decided to drive down the road
and search for the statue. We

521
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:12.159
noticed that there were trees cut down
on the side of the road and laying

522
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:15.039
parallel to the shoulder of the road. We finally did find the statue.

523
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:19.880
About five minutes go by of silence, and we decided to enhance the scare

524
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.840
factor by shutting the lights off.
About a minute goes by and we see

525
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:27.239
a shadow figure pop out from the
statue. We all freak out as it

526
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:30.960
starts walking towards us, but it
was making movements that no human would normally

527
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:37.119
be capable of. It was dark
out, but this thing was black.

528
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:42.320
It was darker than the woodsy sky, darker than the night, darker than

529
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.079
the night itself. I was gonna
say, why does this sound familiar?

530
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:51.599
Because what does sound familiar? It's
a movie title in Spanish Negro. Oh

531
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:58.360
yeah, yeah, it a mas
negroclace. This thing was huge. Like

532
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:01.599
I said earlier, we were all
extremely large compared to the five nine guy,

533
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:06.519
but this thing would have dwarfed any
of us. We decided to peel

534
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:08.840
out of there and continue down the
road, figuring out it would lead us

535
00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:12.960
out of there. We were wrong. About three minutes go by and we

536
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:15.079
hit a dead end, which in
this case was an open shot in the

537
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:20.440
woods with sand everywhere. The cutout
was massive, but surrounded by woods.

538
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:23.480
There was different cutouts and waste to
go from there, and I'm pretty sure

539
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:29.039
the road continued after this cutout,
but we were pretty deep in the woods

540
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:32.519
at this point. We decided to
turn around and leave. After we turned

541
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:36.960
around, we just stopped to take
in the eenery feeling. The other three

542
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.480
guys were talking about the shadow we
saw earlier, while I happened to catch

543
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:43.880
something out of the corner of my
eye. About forty feet away from me,

544
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:46.159
I see what appears to be a
white face, and then another and

545
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:51.599
another, all surrounding the car.
The other guys didn't see them. I

546
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.400
rarely get scared, but they saw
me panic and they knew something was up.

547
00:40:54.920 --> 00:41:00.400
My panic caused them to panic.
We're all panicing, know. We

548
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.599
then flowed far away from the sand. Turnaround, we get about half a

549
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:08.159
mile down the road, kind of
near the statue and pull over to gather

550
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:13.119
our composure to get out of there. When we stopped, I swear we

551
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:17.960
heard the typical goes oOoOO sound.
This was now turning into a movie I

552
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:22.920
wish I was never a part of. We were really scared. After finding

553
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:28.280
the way we came, we started
heading back out. Remember those trees I

554
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:30.400
talked about earlier, they were now
laying in the middle of the road,

555
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:36.719
blocking us, as well as the
white faces that I saw earlier. Thank

556
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:40.320
god, one of my friends was
a good at driving and valued safety over

557
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:44.360
his car. We drove on the
edge of the woods. We felt like

558
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:47.400
we were defying gravity to speed our
way out. The car was literally sideways

559
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:51.199
on the edge of the woods.
I mean I could stick my finger out

560
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:53.800
the window and touch trees. We
all made it home safely that night.

561
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:59.440
After doing research, we found out
that Spout was a notorious for crazy things

562
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:04.360
like bodies and murders. Oh,
I haven't found that information Because of the

563
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:07.039
shadow and the ghost noise we heard. My head, heart and gut tells

564
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:12.599
me that that place is actually haunted. As previously stated, it's famous for

565
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:15.360
dumping bodies along with that plane crash
that happened, so there's bound to be

566
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:20.320
some spirits there. I think where
we were that night was actually haunted.

567
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:22.440
We just happened to be there on
a night where there was more things going

568
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.639
on. I can help but think
the evil looking shadow from the statue was

569
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:30.280
actually an angel in disguise, trying
to scare us away from the doom that

570
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.760
was upon us. I can't say
for certain, but I'm ninety nine percent

571
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:37.880
sure we survived one of their setups
that night. I'm one hundred percent sure

572
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:40.199
I will never go back again.
I got chills just sapping this. I

573
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:44.920
never tell the story. There were
four of us there. One took our

574
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:47.159
story to the grave, and I'm
sure the rest of us won't speak much

575
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:51.599
about it either. Whenever we bring
it up in front of people, we

576
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:57.480
always use the code thmtw so that
we don't have to actually talk about it

577
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:02.679
t hmtw. Of course, ask
for the horror movie that wasn't Wow,

578
00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:07.519
But yeah, I mean it was
long, but yeah, and I'm sorry,

579
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.639
I'm like sick. I'm much retired, I think. And then I

580
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:14.639
was like a little bit like,
oh were you You're not paying attention but

581
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:17.679
it wasn't because the story. It
wasn't because the story was boring. It's

582
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:22.440
because I'm sick. Also, it's
because people are ready to write too much.

583
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:27.039
So it was just automatically tuning out. Oh, I'll give you like

584
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:30.519
a tld R. Well, I
got the okay gist of it, Like

585
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:37.119
they think that something was saving them
from the other scarier ghost. And I

586
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:38.920
would believe that's true because I feel
like, I mean, you wouldn't want

587
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:43.039
to hurt anybody. Yeah, I
think that was a medio I do.

588
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.519
But yeah, excusing Carmen's rudeness.
What a creepy story. Yeah, I'm

589
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:52.360
so sorry. Oh man, but
yeah, I guess those are today's stories.

590
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:58.559
In the unexpected turn of events,
I covered something in the United States

591
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:01.679
because it's a Mexican ghost. Oh
you know what. I just thought that

592
00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:10.920
Emilio being here just goes to show
that there are no borders. Oh my

593
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:15.960
god. Oh yeah. And so
it's like, you don't he transcended the

594
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:22.000
bard, Yeah you don't too.
Yeah, And occasionally Juga he said,

595
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:28.440
wait, it's not the Youuga.
I can't believe you're just let you Yes,

596
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:32.559
there has been signing some of the
latusa in Texas in California. I'm

597
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:37.239
sorry, your brain's not working anymore, I said it. I'm like,

598
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:43.239
that's wrong. Every time I talk
about the litusa on tiktoks, someone's like,

599
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:45.519
I used to call it litchuga and
I'm like, really it, But

600
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.960
now I see it. Now I
see it because you just did it and

601
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:57.159
that just just Butcha things, you
know, hashtag just butcher things. Yeah,

602
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:00.840
because we've established we're not Yeah,
yeah, I guess because we reached

603
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:06.840
the end of the topics, I
will talk about this. I bought the

604
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:10.599
the famous one on TikTok and it
was too easy for us. Yeah.

605
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:15.000
I really thought that our brother was
going to be a no kid, because

606
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:16.880
he kind of was when he was
younger. Yeah, but his Spanish has

607
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:21.639
gotten better, so yeah, yeah, I want to play it with people

608
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:27.719
that are actually because that sounds more
fun. So yeah, if you're a

609
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:39.440
game but yeah out there, don't
get the game. We need a new

610
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:46.079
game, a harder game we called
just butcher things or something. Anyway.

611
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:50.599
Yeah, I just wanted to randomly
say that, oh my god, oh

612
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:54.159
my god, not again. Carbon
records with her door open and every time

613
00:45:54.159 --> 00:46:00.280
her husband walks by in the hallway. She gets scared. It happened too

614
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:04.440
much. But yeah, thank you
Carmen for filling in. TWA's a pleasure.

615
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:09.039
Sorry everyone that we both sound sick. Yeah, it is Christina's fault.

616
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:15.440
It is it is my children's fault. Yes, before we go,

617
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:21.400
Do you have any speaky recommendations?
Well, I've been rewatching Supernatural. Oh

618
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:25.840
god, I love Dean. Stop
which one is Dean? Dean is the

619
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:30.519
hot one, obviously with the dark
hair. They both have brown hair.

620
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:36.920
No, they both have dirt.
They have brown hair. I don't like

621
00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:40.760
dirty blonde hair, and the other
one had brown hair. No, I

622
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.039
want to say it's serious. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Are you serious?

623
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:51.239
What's what's his name? Jensen Acles? Another one? Actually don't know

624
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:53.440
his name. That's like dirty blonde
hair. Are you serious? Yes?

625
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:58.079
Oh I thought it was brown.
No, I feel like in the show

626
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:01.239
looks brown. I'm looking at it
and it looks dirty blonde to me.

627
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:06.239
Let me see, maybe it's brown. It's brown. I just saw a

628
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:09.639
picture right now. Image. I
guess maybe he puts highlights in his hair.

629
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:15.280
Oh, I guess it's like light
brown. Look, it's dark brown.

630
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:17.880
Okay, that is dark, but
the pictures I was just looking at

631
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:22.840
it all looks lighter than that.
Oh I think he probably does have lighter

632
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:24.159
hair. Or it was the two
thousands, you know, everybody had his

633
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:28.960
bleaching their hair. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Okay, so

634
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:32.159
you've been watching rewatching Supernatural anyway,
he's the hot one, and I've been

635
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:37.280
rewatching Supernatural. Oh okay, see
look they both have brown hair. I

636
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:40.760
never finished watching that show because I
don't watch I don't ever watch all of

637
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:45.719
it. I always all just rewatch
up until a certain point because it just

638
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:50.599
gets ridiculous at one point. Okay, okay, it kind of is like

639
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:52.760
that along the way, but it's
too much afterwards. But I like watching

640
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:57.760
it. It's like silly, but
it's Some episodes are scary, especially the

641
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:01.039
earlier ones, because they're actually like
haunting or hunting. Yeah, I think

642
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:06.920
I saw episode it's like the Woman
in White I think the first one.

643
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:08.480
Yeah, that's the first one.
Where is the Bloody Mary? I don't

644
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:12.280
remember, no, no, no, it's like Lady in White slash.

645
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:15.559
But the Bloody Mary episode always scared
me too, because I think that's like

646
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:20.079
the one legend that scared me as
a kid, bloody Mary. Yeah,

647
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.920
yeah, yeah, you were a
scaredy cat. I'm just kidding. All

648
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:27.840
of them did, but but that
one was scary. That beisode. I

649
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:30.440
remember, like I would watch it, honestly though, I remember having almost

650
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:36.639
a few well almost like panic attacks
from people, yes, closing the door

651
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:38.480
in the bathroom and then turning the
lights off and just forcing you into a

652
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:43.760
bloody marry situation, like panicking trying
to get out, And I would not

653
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:46.079
open my eyes because I'm not going
to see anything. I'm not the one,

654
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:51.039
you know, my because I can
open my eyes. You're right,

655
00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:53.480
You're right, chantee nothing maybe opening
your eyes, that's true, that's true.

656
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:55.559
And I don't know. I just
like I like watching it, and

657
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:59.800
then I like all the different monsters
that come up later. But what I

658
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:01.440
don't like is when it gets too
much with the whole habit and held with

659
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:06.480
apocalypse thing. Oh yeah, so
that's when I stopped watching, okay,

660
00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:09.360
and then when they come back from
the dead, Yeah that sounds Yeah,

661
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:15.440
this is pretty insane. Yeah.
Do I watch well because it's scene is

662
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.559
hot for the most part. Yeah, oh okay, and that's why I

663
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:22.519
need some prime to watch him on
the Boys he's on The Boys. Yeah,

664
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:24.400
and like season two, I think, not the first one, but

665
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:27.960
like the newers. I'm not gonna
lie. I started like he was better

666
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:30.519
now that he's older. Okay,
sorry, I'm just talking about him now.

667
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:32.639
Yeah. I started watching The Boys
season two and then it was just

668
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:36.519
too much for me. I was
like, I can't really yeah, because

669
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:40.000
I mean I don't even know the
spoiler, because you like spoilers, and

670
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:43.480
because it's done for a while,
so I feel like, whoever's gonna watch

671
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:46.119
it, it has already seen it. Right episode and if you have children,

672
00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:50.360
know you fast forward through this.
The first episode in the second season

673
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:53.840
has this guy who has the superpower
to shrink himself, and he shrinks himselves

674
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:59.480
and goes into the penis of another
guy and then he's climbing up and then

675
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:02.960
he they have the other guys have
a thing that can make him bigger,

676
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:07.079
and they make him bigger, and
he explodes while inside the penis of this

677
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:09.880
other guy, and that guy dies, and then there's a lot that's like

678
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:15.719
uh X rated at man, Oh
my god, Yeah, that's exactly what

679
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:17.679
it was. And after that,
I was like, I don't know how

680
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:22.559
we feel about this. Yeah,
that is a little much. I just

681
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:25.440
want to see him. But yeah, if you can get through that and

682
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:30.360
get if you want to get Amazon
Prime, not sacrifice anything to see genst

683
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:36.360
Eckles ackles, Oh yeah, I
don't know not I I can't though I

684
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:40.840
don't have Amazon Primes. Oh that's
true my speaking recommendation. Before Carmen cuts

685
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:45.000
me off again. Oh, I
keep talking about Gensit. Yeah, I

686
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:50.559
watched because of TikTok. I came
across these clips of a little girl and

687
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:52.920
not a little girl, a teenager
in high school, and like, in

688
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:57.320
the clip that I saw on TikTok, oh, it's the thing you're telling

689
00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:00.199
me about the other thing. Yeah. Yeah. In the clip that I

690
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:05.000
sound TikTok, she's like talking to
people and nobody's saying nobody's recognizing her,

691
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:07.679
nobodys saying hi. She's going through
the hallway like oh hi, guys,

692
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:09.559
like nobody says anything. They're like, did you hear something? At first,

693
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:12.920
it sounds like she's being shunned.
People are just being mean to her.

694
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:16.119
But then not even the teachers are
recognizing her, and I'm like,

695
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:19.679
what's happening? What is this?
So then I look looked for it,

696
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:22.679
and it's this show called Class of
nineteen seventy on YouTube. The episodes are

697
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:25.840
like fifteen minutes song because it's a
YouTube show. It turns out that this

698
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:30.079
girl is a ghost and she died
in the school and she's like nobody that's

699
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:35.119
why nobody can see her. And
then students years later, one of them

700
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:39.199
happens to be like more connected to
the supernatural, and they are the ones

701
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:43.880
who finally hear her, and so
then they're trying to help her move on.

702
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:47.000
That's pretty good. The acting's a
little cheesy if you can get past

703
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:52.719
that, because you could tell some
of the kids first time acting. But

704
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:54.719
even then it's it's not bad.
It was good. I do you recommend

705
00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:59.960
him interesting? Class of nineteen seventy
Yeah? Cool, cool, Okay,

706
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:01.840
now this is this actually brings us
to the end of the episode. Do

707
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:07.239
you have anything to plug? You
know? I do. Me and Christina

708
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:12.000
have two other podcasts. If you
like novellas and you like Cheese May and

709
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:15.480
you like Teresa, because that is
the novella we have been watching forever,

710
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:20.760
then you can check out Novelas Coversito, where we rewatch the tell novelas,

711
00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:24.039
only it's only Teresa right now of
our childhood slash adolescent and talk shit about

712
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:29.360
the episode as we recap them.
And then we have occasional cheese make go

713
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:32.719
covasito segments where we just you know, bring up some gossip old or new.

714
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:38.679
Yes, yes, yes, all
cheese may is a prograbs yes,

715
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:47.079
yes, And and then we have
a history podcast because I was gonna keep

716
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:53.199
talking about yeah and then yeah,
we also have a history podcast where we

717
00:52:53.239 --> 00:53:00.280
talk about Latin American history, stories
about resistance, stories that are horrible,

718
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:05.119
bar racism, genocide, things like
that, also powering community. Yes,

719
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:08.039
yes, yes, yes, anyah, Latin American history. So if you're

720
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:15.280
into all things Latine not all things
history, then check that out. Yes

721
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:19.199
history, yeah yeah. And if
you want to look for things that you

722
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:21.519
did and learn that you're like,
what the hell didn't I learn that in

723
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:24.920
school? Yeah? Or things to
get mad about. Who doesn't like getting

724
00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:31.679
mado both yeah and yeah. Thank
you Carmen again for filling in for MJ.

725
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:37.960
Everyone else. Thank you again for
sharing your Spotify wrapped and email us

726
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:43.960
your spooky stories at Spooky does at
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727
00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:47.960
up. Buy some merch if you
want. I don't know, and what

728
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:51.920
else, there was something I was
gonna, Oh no, that's what I

729
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:53.880
was gonna do. I was gonna
thank everyone for sharing their Spotify reps.

730
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:55.920
I was like, there was something
that I was like, I'm gonna say

731
00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:00.840
this on the next episode. And
as always, visits fired Today dot com.

732
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:05.760
We must not forget about Palestine.
And also, I mean, things

733
00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:10.000
are terrible everywhere. Look up what's
going on in Congos Dan Latin America yep,

734
00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:15.239
mm hmm. And I don't know, watch out for the ghosts of

735
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:19.199
Emilio Karans actually like watch out put
it in a good way, like look

736
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:22.800
out for him because he's really nice. Yeah. Yeah, he'll save you.

737
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:27.039
He'll save you from the bad ghosts. Yeah. And yeah, stay

738
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:32.960
a spooky and we'll catch everyone next
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739
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:38.360
hosted by Christina and MJ, produced
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740
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741
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