Dec. 12, 2025

The Bewitching- Book Club

The Bewitching- Book Club
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The Bewitching follows three women, in three different timelines: Alba in 1900s Mexico, Beatrice during the great depression in Massachusetts, and Minerva in the 1990s, who’s connected to both women as she is Alba’s granddaughter and attends the same university as Beatrice, who is also the focus of Minerva’s thesis. All women are facing dark forces that are possibly connected. Today's episode is a book club! Carmen and Cristina recap the book, then go through discussion questions.

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Hello, Hello, this is Christina and Carmen and this is

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another episode of a Spooky Tales podcasts for all things

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as Spooky true crime Hunter places myths legends in Latin America,

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but not today. Today is a book club episode. Book Club,

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book Club, book Club. That's right, we are finally recording

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our book club episode for The Bewitching by Syria Garcia.

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And just a reminder about how these work. Some months

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before the episode comes out, we say, hey, we're reading

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this book next. Whoever wants to read with us can,

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and then we send out discussion questions. Whoever wants to

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answer them can, and then we just recamp the book

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and do discussion questions. At the end, there's like a

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brief five minute spoiler free section where we do like

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not even five minutes, but yeah that like two minutes. Yeah,

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so yeah, that's uh, that's how these book club episodes work.

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And uh yeah, hopefully we got some answers from people.

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If not, we didn't, will we'll talk about it. And

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I feel like a lot of people listen to it

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after they read the book. A lot of people, yeah, yeah,

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or some people. Some people listen to it and then

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based on that decide if they want to read the

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book or not. I have done that with other podcasts. No, yeah,

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I get it too. I do that all the time

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where I'm like, do I want to read this book?

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And then I'll listen to a full last spoiler recaps,

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full recap, and then I'm like, yeah, I do want

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to read it. I do the same thing with movies. Yeah, yeah,

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So I love a recap. I love I love a spoiler,

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A recap full of spoilers. We do, we do, that's

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just yeah famously. Yes. Yeah, speaking of spoilers, are you

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ready for a spoiler free synopsis? Yeah? Quick little summary. So,

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the Bewit Chain, by our favorite Yeah, follows three women

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in three different timelines. Alba in nineteen hundreds Mexico, Beatrice

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during the Great Depression in Massachusetts, and me Nedva in

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the nineteen nineties. Who's connected to both women because she

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is Alba's great granddaughter and she attends the same university

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as Beatrice. She is the lynchpin between the timelines. Yes, yeah,

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and then Beatrice is also the focus of Nerva's thesis.

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She's a grad gradically yeah yeah, And all women are

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facing dark forces, dark witchy forces that are possibly connected. Yeah,

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don't don't don't. Yeah, And that is our spoiler free synopsis.

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If you don't want any spoilers, now is the time

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to leave. Yeah, but before we do the recap, did

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you picture anyone any I did? I did? Okay, did

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you cast anyone in the movie of the Bewitching? I

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feel like Alba. I didn't have a specific actress in mind,

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but I was picturing like someone from the you know

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how they have novels that are based on like the

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old times, like something like that's when I pictured. But

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I don't think I pictured anyone specific, did you I

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know exactly what you mean, and I pictured the same Okay, Okay,

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you know what I pictured? You know the you know

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the cover of the Escianda. Oh my gosh, kind of

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like that. No, we're the same, because that's who I

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pictured for Alba's Okay, okay, wow wow twins. Yeah, and

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then if you're for Beatrice, I don't think really, I

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don't really think I pictured anybody actually for Beatrice. But

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do you know I pictured them? Yeah? H Do you

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remember a Night of the Living Dead? Night of the

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Living Dead? No, I mean I remember it, but I

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don't think I remember Okay, Well, there's like a distraught

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white woman in Night of the Living Dead. She's the

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one with her the brother. They go in the beginning

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to the parents' grave. That's where the zombies come out

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of their brother's like they're I get you anyway, her,

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that's who I pictured. Okay, I'm just picturing like someone

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like a like a plane, you know, middle of the

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road white woman from the Midwest. Oh, she's not like

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I wouldn't say plane, but she is. Oh nope, I

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didn't picture someone like that. Really feature someone more, you

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know what. You know how I'm picturing. I mean, I

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don't want to say plain like offensive, but I'm picturing

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kind of like okay, and I don't I know you

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didn't watch Euphoria, but everyone has seen clips here and there,

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and you know, I think her name is Judd or

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Mod No. Jud is a dad Apatow, the director. His

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daughter is a Euphoria mod I believe is her. I

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think her name is mod. I'm picturing her as Beatrice.

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I see it, I see it. Yeah, what about for Ginny?

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Did you picture anyone for Ginny? No? For some reason,

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I'm picturing like a redhead, like maybe someone like, oh,

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what's her name? From The Stranger Things and she's like

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kind of more petty sync. Yeah, yeah, we're on the

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same page. Oh yeah. And then I don't think I

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pictured anyone like in my head specifically, No I was

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someone like bitchy, real bitchy looking for uh. I'm like, yeah,

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the younger version of what's her name that's in like

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Midnight Mass and all the movies. But she was like

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the evil woman in Mass. Okay, yeah, yeah, I know

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who time. Yeah, just so the people listening can know

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Samantha Sloyan. Maybe even Angela from the Office, you know what. Yeah,

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maybe even bitch vibe. Yeah. And then the men, I

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didn't picture anybody, No, same, same, yeah, except for the

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guy that she supposedly ran off with. Oh sometimes. Yeah,

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I pictured bad Bunny, but I think it's because I

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had been listening to that's my number one artist this year.

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That's hilarious. Wow. For all the white men I pictured,

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like asi variation of Jonah Is from Superstar. Oh oh

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my god, what the fuck? This is scary because I

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did too, because he just has like that nineteen thirties face,

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you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, generic white guy

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for Noah Noah. I pictured for Noah like a young

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Leonardo DiCaprio, but like snobby looking, you know, like what

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the hair slips back and put him in a suit.

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So he's not tall enough to be Noah. No, you're right, No,

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you know what? Who would be good? Did you ever

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watch No? Probably not the pit or Er. No, it's

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funny because his name is Noah no Wiley. But here

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let me show you. This is actually pretty spot on.

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Oh yeah, because his character is rich and snobby, but

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he becomes a doctor. He comes from like a rich

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family and he when he becomes a doctor, they don't

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like that. They think he should be continuing the family business.

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Oh okay, while you're looking for that, you know who

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I pictured for. What's his name? The other college douchebag

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in minas Timeline. Oh, the other guy Conrad. Okay, what's

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his name? Glenn? Glenn? Is it Glenn? Oh, Glenn Powell? Yeah,

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but from Screaming Queens. Yes, yes, Chad, I could see that. Yeah,

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so he's not in purple clothes here, but just picture

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him in purple clothes. Okay, I could see that. I

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could see that. Yeah, okay, so we've cast it almost Yeah,

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what about he though, Oh, I actually didn't even think

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about here. I am kind of picturing oh my god,

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what's his name? Just because he seemed kind of like

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funny and chill, you know, love Hard, the guy from

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that movie Love Hard. Yeah, I don't know his name,

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the guy who does the CAF machine Jimmy Yang. Yes, yeah,

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he's a yeah him, yeah, yeah, you know what. Yeah,

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I picture someone taller because he was so chill, oh

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maybe yeah, and more serious, kind of like that serious

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Asian actor who sometimes is a doctor. Really you picture

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someone serious. I kind of did for some reason. Really Okay, well,

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hence who you he was always trying to convince her

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to party. That's why I'm like, he's not serious, you

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know what? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's why I originally

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pictured Oh my god, what's his name? Oh, Daniel day Kim.

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Oh I know you're talking about No, no, no, no,

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maybe version okay, Like you're just like, oh, yeah, I

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haven't seen a young picture of him. That's why I've

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only seen him like, no, no, you're right saying, but

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maybe yeah, okay, okay, now that everyone's cast wait Neva,

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oh my god, okay, you know I pictured specifically sees

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and one of only mergers in the building. Mabel Gomez. Yeah,

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that's why I picture agree. Yeah cool, and then she

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gets like worse, you know, this season goes on instead

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of getting better. So that's why I said specifically season one. Yes, no,

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I concur then yeah cool. All right, Okay, everyone's been cast. Okay,

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And so we have three timelines going on in the book, right,

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and they are alternating, but we're gonna go through one

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storyline at a time, one timeline at a time, because

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it will be confusing to go back and forth. But

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that's how you read the book. I think to just

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recap it, that would be confusing. So yeah, keep that

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in mind as we're recapping, because like, as something happens

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in Nedva's story, it's connected to Betty's story or Beatrice,

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you know what I mean. So and obviously we won't

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have that as we go through the recap. Okay. So

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the story begins in nineteen eighty eight with Minerva remembering

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something that her visa Wila Alba, who she calls Nana

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Alba and will refer to her that way used to say.

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And she used to say, back then, when I was

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a young woman, there were still witches and I just

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love that and I'm sorry. When I read that line,

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I was like, I'm okay. I was always going to

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get this anyway again because it's Cela mon Garcia and

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she is my If she writes it, I'm buying it. Yeah.

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But when I read that line, I was like, I'm convinced.

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If I hadn't already been convinced, if you need a reason, yeah,

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those words would have convinced me. They're like right there,

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like it's like the first line. Yeah. Yeah, then when

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I was young, I could write the witches. Yeah. So yeah.

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She's at at her university, Stone Ridge, taking in the

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fall atmosphere when she hears a cry and she thinks

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it's like a peacock or an owl since the hangout

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on campus. Whatever. It's the end of the semester and

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she's doing her rounds because she is a I think

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they're called resident advisors. She's like one of the supervisors

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of the ras. And besides being an RA, she also

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has a scholarship and she works in the language lab.

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So she's burnt out. She's a burnt out, girly, stressed, depressed.

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She's been forced into like doing all this to try

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and because she's a she's a foreign student, it's from Mexico,

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and so she has to do all these things to

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continue her education. But obviously it's gonna leave to burn out. Yeah. Yeah,

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she's going through it. So because of everything, she feels

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like she's behind on her thesis. And at the same time,

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she's kind of used to juggling a lot of things

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because when she was back in Mexico she used to

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help take care of Nanaba, who lived to be one

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hundred and one one hundred and one. But you know,

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it's like that undiagnosed ADHD situation where you're doing so

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much because you need to be doing so much other

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why is you're depressed, But then you do so much

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that you your body is now it's like a side

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for now. Yeah, yeah, it's And then you lay on

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the couch for like a month, Yes, doing nothing. Yes,

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it's not healthy. I don't recommend not at all sidetrack

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about DHD. You can cut out if you want, but no,

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never I was. I was with our friend Nana the

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other day and we were we had driven to San

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Francisco for in Better with the Rite for their live show.

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And then yeah, and as you should be, and uh,

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we we didn't eat. I think we had eight before,

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both of us separately, so we weren't hungry on the way.

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And then we get there and then she's like, should

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we eat before? But we didn't have enough time whatever,

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and then I was like, oh, no, I'm not. I

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was like I'm not. I was like, I'm barely starting

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to get hungry. And I was like I usually wait

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home starving to eat. And then she's like because she

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she was like no with ADHD, like I took like

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C last year, two years ago, and she's like, yeah,

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that's because your neurodiverg And I was like what, And

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then I was you not heard that word before. No,

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I've heard that word, but I hadn't realized in relations

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to you to eating, to my eating habits, because I

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literally wait until she's like, yeah, you're you're diet, you're

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eating cues or all messed up. And she's like, I

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always bring snacks in me everywhere because if I don't

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want to get hungry, she has snacks. Now you did something,

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it's true, Yeah, well she was prepared. Yeah, yeah, I

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guess she learned that in therapy. Wow, this is a

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tool A tool that she and her toolkit. Yeah yeah,

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I literally wait until i'm starving to I don't know

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any other way to function. I did the same thing too,

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when I have to pee, I feel like it's a

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reward and this doesn't make any sense. So no, not

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you making that fas Okay, I used to feel like

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that more before. Now I really just go pee. But

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I used to be like, Okay, after I finish this sentence,

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I can go. I finished, yes, yes, and that again,

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it's all related to damn in my experience. To add again,

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we're not diagnosing anyone. We're just saying so in your experience,

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I did diagnose me, Minerva and you okay, yeah yeah.

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So anyway, Yeah, she's not doing her round, and she

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stops by one of the residence dorms check their summer

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stay paperwork, and turns out she hates his phone. This

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is Conrad. Conrad and Conrad's are typical annoying douche drowning

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in his privilege, and Mineva thinks that Conrad's annoyingness pushed

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his ex roommate Thomas to leave after winter break. Thomas

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never came back after that, and so Mineva's inspecting Conrad's

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dorm and she finds out Thomas left a few boxes behind,

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and we also get the hint that maybe there was

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a little something between Minettva and Conrad because of how

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they interact together, and later on we find out that

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they made out. Confirms yeah. And so then later Minetva's

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friend he There, comes over. They chat, we learned the

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topic of Minneva's thesis and also about her love of

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weird horror. So Mineva's doing her thesis on Beatrice Tremblay,

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an obscure horror author who Mineva discovered through Lovecraft and

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through her research. Minetteva comes across and I'm gonna call

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her Betty now because that's how she's usually called Betty

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instead of Beatrice. Yeah, Mineva comes across Betty's only published novel,

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The Vanishing, and her plan for the thesis was to

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look into the autobiographical elements of The Vanishing and tied

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together with New England's history and folklore, which sounds super interesting,

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sounds fascinating, very very and she was inspired to do

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this because on the first edition of The Vanishing there's

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a no one on the back that says was based

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on a true story. Also In some other letters that

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Betty wrote to other authors, she mentions that mi Nedva

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also felt called to Betty because the vanishing reminded her

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of something that happened to her Nana Alba when she

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was young, a disappearance tied to witchcraft. And this brings

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us to Carolyn Yates. Carolyn Yate, motherfucking Carolyn, who min

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Neeva found out has a personal archive of Betty's papers

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and letters. Min Neva's been calling Carolyn secretary to try

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to meet with her, with no luck. But the next

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night in min Neevah goes to a party that he

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they'll peer pressure her into going social anxiety and she

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doesn't like parties, so she doesn't really want to be there. Yeah,

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she does end up leaving when it's too much, and

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on her way out she runs into a drunk guy

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and this ends up being Carolyn's grandson, Noah Yates. Noah

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offers Minetta bout a ride for miss driver because they're rich.

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Who has drivers, you know? And he drunkenly invents her

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to brunch the next day and she shows up in

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a ballsy move. She shows up, Yeah, nobody thought she would,

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but she eats too. She needs to for her thesis,

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and she's a go getter despite her anxiety. So min

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Neva shows up to brunch the next day and Carolyn

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tries to brush her away because this happens often where

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Noah is drunk and invites girls over, but he's still

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a sleep when they show up, so she's like, you

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should just go. He's not going to wake up. And

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she's like, actually, I'm here to talk to you, and

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she's like what, But anyway, she explains all her effort

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trying to get in touch with her to talk about

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Betty's archive or to let her basically look into Betty's

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archive for thee says, and so Minerva does make a

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good impression on Carolyn, you know, with her work ethics,

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studious studiousness. And so she makes a deal with min

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Neeva that Minetva I can stop buying to look at

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the archive as long as she makes appointments with her.

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And during their brief talk, Minneva learns about Virginia Somerset,

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the girl who went missing which the Vanishing is based on,

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and Nouel referred to her as Genny because that's usually

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how they referred to her, and Carolyn says that Genny's

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disappearance wasn't reported because it was speculated that Genny ran

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away with a young, handsome man from Portugal, and this

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young man was named Santiago. Okay, bad buddy. And Carolyn

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takes min Neeva to the archive, shows her some of

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Genny's paintings, which she hates, but she kept because her

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late husband, Edgar Yates, who used to be engaged to Genny,

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kept out how weird writing Yeah. I was like, what

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do you mean you married? You're missing friends, fiance, But

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I guess she was never really her friend. Yeah. And

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Carolyn also shares that Ginny was a witchy spiritualist and

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that Betty also believed in the paranormal. And then she

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also shows Netva Betty's unpublished manuscript about Genny's disappearance, and

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this is how we follow that timeline through that manuscript. Yeah,

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And later on min Neva and Hidel chat about the

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manuscript and Minettva is making connections between Betty's story of

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witches and what Nana Alba used to say about the witches.

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Then they talk about moving needing to move Thomas's boxes

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out of the dorm and they're like, why Mi Neva's

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like why can't Thomas do it? And that's when they

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find out that basically no one's been able to get

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in touch with Thomas, not even his sister, since he

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left after winter break, very similar to say Genny's disappearance

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also around winter. Yeah, what a coincidence, very and min

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Neeva thinks about the last time she saw Thomas and

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realizes that it's been a minute again since late December,

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and that he was acting kind of weird when she

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did bump into him. It was straight up when her time,

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and he was walking around without a jacket and he

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seemed kind of like rattled. M That night, min Neeva

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has a little tiff with Conrad when she's went a

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rounds about regulations. He's broken. The next day she thinks

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it's Conrad because they had a little argument, but someone

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has painted two long black lines on the front door

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of her house and that's weird, like why Yeah, And

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then it wasn't regular paint, it was like a sticky,

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stinky tars substance. Yeah. Mineva goes to Carolyn's house again

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to review Betty's archives, and she chats with Noah before

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getting into her research. She learns that Carolyn hates Betty's

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book and again, I mean Carolyn mentioned this, but no repeaced.

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Carolyn only kept the archive going because of his grandfather, Edgar,

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and the same with Jenny's art. Two hours go by

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and Noah fetches me Nedva for them to have tea

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with Carolyn, and Carolyn asked her about the research, and

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during the conversation, Mineva learns that a lot of Betty's

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things got lost when she moved in with Benjamin Hoffman

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after her cancer treatment. That's like one of their friends

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from college, well not really Carolyn's friends. She's friends with

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no one, no, no, yeah. And min Neeva asked about Santiago, like,

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is there any employee records, you know, because it might

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help her with their thesis, and Carolyn asks, all weird

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about this, Yeah, She's like, how does that help you?

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I don't see any importance in this at all. Don't

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pursue this, yeah, But ultimately she does offer to have

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Noah show me Nedva the old factory, her family's old factory,

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and Noah drives min Neva back to her dorm before

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dropping her off. They do stop at this factory, but

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they only look at the outside because Noah doesn't have keys,

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the keys to go inside, and Minerva learns that the

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factory closed around nineteen eighty after it struggled for some time.

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Edgar Noah's grandfather. He also agreed with Betty that something

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paranormal happened to Genny like it was in a regular disappearance,

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and she for sure didn't run away with bad Bunny, right.

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Santanio santaniol yas Minerva goes to the campus library to

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look into the old student newspaper to see what she

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can learn about Jenny's disappearance. And these were stored I

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didn't fully understand the mechanisms of this thing, but they

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were stored in stacks or some kind of crank machine thing. Oh,

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I pictured, like I'm forgetting what movie or what show

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or what I was watching. Where basically they go down

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to like some old library or something and they have

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to like turn this knob okay, and then it like

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goes through these like literal physical documents. I wonder what

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that was, because I feel like I saw that too

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here or whatever that was. Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, okay,

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it's like you know how like posters are stored at

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them all Yeah, and like sort through them, but something

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bigger where like it flips through the old papers. It's fascinating.

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And so there's this like warning message posted on it

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for all the students, Like it says, before moving the stacks,

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check to make sure there are new people or stools

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between them. So Minerva looks to different issues and while

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she's looking, she well, someone turns the crank and she's

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about to get crushed by the stacks, but she manages

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to get away and she just falls in the process.

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And she looks around to see who the fuck almost

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killed her, but doesn't find anyone. Scary, Yeah, only that

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someone has crossed out the warning message. Yeah, there's like

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a lot of little creepy things that happened. Yeah. The

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atmosphere of this was Yeah, they weren't jump scartes. It

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was just like a one long like h what is happening? Eerie?

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Like eerie? Yeah. Yeah. So then he there and Minetta

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moved Thomas boxes and sheants up rummaging through some of

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his books. Then a piece of paper falls out of

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one of the books and min Neeva recognizes that drawings

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on it. She's seen it before at the Willows Building.

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And the Willows Building is one of the dorms. I think, right,

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is it not their old dorm, like, uh, Jenny and YADDI, yeah,

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Carolyn's old dorm, I think so. So she looks through

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more of his stuff and she finds a notebook full

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of similar drawings, which also resemble Ginny's art. He that

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was gone getting food, but Minetva, I hears something outside,

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and so she looks outside, and it looks like it's nighttime,

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but it shouldn't because not that much time has passed

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since he then left to get food. And even though

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she can't see anything outside, she knows someone is standing

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outside in the porch. Oh, like she can physically feel it. Yeah, yeah,

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like she's being watched. Someone is there. So then the

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next day or so, Minerva goes to the library to

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check out some of the books on witchcraft that Thomas

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had been reading or something like that. Yeah, he had

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like a list of like, oh, it's a list. Okay,

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I'm like I forgot where how these How she got

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these titles? Yeah, she came across. Yeah, yeah, and so

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and she also goes to use the phone and at

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the library, Minerva called thomas sister, and she learned that

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Thomas was tutoring Noah and he spent Thanksgiving was Carolyn

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and Noah. And then she also finds some of the

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books a History of Witchcraft Floor and there in that

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book she sees some of the drawings that Thomas and

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Ginny had been d both both had that book, yeah,

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and well, I don't think she knows yet that they

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both had it, but she recognizes the art and she

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learns that these oh I see. Yeah, she learns that

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these uh marks are epotropaic Marx hopefully that's how you

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pronounce that, and they're symbols of protection against which oh. Yeah.

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So she checks out that book and another book on

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medieval bitchcraft in England, and then she meets up with

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Noah and she asks him about Thomas and he's like, well,

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Carolyn invited him for Thanksgiving because she felt sorry for him.

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And then while she's there, she also gets to you know,

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look more into the archive and do her research for

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her thesis. But she also talks with Noah a little

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bit more, and she learns that that he's on ghosts

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at the family factory and then he they basically agree

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for him to take Minettava to the factory the next

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day before Carolyn gets back, but once Minettava gets back home,

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she sees a dead rat with us like sticking up

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and this is something that Ginny also saw. Yes, yes,

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the threats are getting more serious. Yeah, they're they're escalating.

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Mine and Noah go to the old factory. It's creepy

439
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and run down, and then they get coffee and he

440
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:24.240
shares a little bit about his family. Basically, they marry

441
00:26:24.279 --> 00:26:26.960
for money, not for love. The great uncles were not

442
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:31.759
cut out for the family business. Carolyn is cutthroat, and

443
00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:38.480
his parents died from a freak accident but a coincidence. Yeah,

444
00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:42.599
and Noah also shares about something called the Blacklist, which

445
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:45.960
was something that Edgar and Betty kept going and it

446
00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:53.799
was a list of mysterious disappearances from New England. Later on,

447
00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:57.359
while doing her rounds, Minetra feels like someone is following

448
00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:00.920
her and she realizes that the normal path she takes

449
00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:06.240
just keeps going and going weird. Yeah, she feels Hella

450
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:12.319
frazzled and like. During her state of frazzledness, she remembers

451
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:17.079
Nana Alba's words, which is tricky, but she keeps walking

452
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:22.000
until she falls and she stumbles upon Conrad and Conrad

453
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:24.480
thinks she's drunk because how frazzled she is, and she

454
00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:26.440
thinks he was the one following her, and he's like, no,

455
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.920
you're fucking weirdo. Yeah, he was a little he was

456
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.400
a little much here. I'm like, Conra, calm down. Yeah,

457
00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:37.000
you see, she's frazzled. She starts recording her Conrad, Yeah,

458
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.000
come on, Conrad, fucking Conrad. And so then min Neva

459
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:43.279
when she gets home, she tells you that what happened?

460
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:46.759
And he's like, uh, girl, what because she s asks

461
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:50.119
someone invisible was following me? Yeah, and so he's worried.

462
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:52.759
He's like, girl, are you okay? The pressure is getting

463
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:55.960
to you? Yeah, please get some help. The next day,

464
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:58.559
min Neeva has tea with Carolyn, who asked about her

465
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:02.240
progress with the deil and the research. Min Neerva takes

466
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.680
this opportunity to ask if Genny was that thing we're

467
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:07.640
during the days leading up to her disappearance. But Carolyn

468
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:11.440
plays off Mineva's concerns and she's like, why are you

469
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:15.880
keep bringing Jenny up? Yeah? Yeah, And Carolyn asked me

470
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:19.759
Nedva about her scholarships, her financial situation, and she ends

471
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:23.680
up offering to pay for Minerva's room board educational living

472
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:28.519
expenses for the upcoming semester to allow Minerva to focus

473
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:31.759
on her thesis. And she's like, apparently she's done this

474
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:33.920
for many students in the past, is what she tells. Uh,

475
00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:37.480
but she doesn't say what students here? No, she doesn't

476
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:40.279
like who was on her list of recipients. Yeah, and

477
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:44.039
but later we find out students like Thomas. Yeah, like Thomas.

478
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:48.720
And when min Neerva gets home, she has a horrible headache,

479
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:52.200
almost like the headache is warning her or something almost

480
00:28:52.240 --> 00:29:00.319
like important. Yes, yes, sadly she does the Carnstein her cat. Yeah,

481
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:06.200
the cat is dead. Unnaturally it's Nick cather beIN twisted

482
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:09.359
a little bit, a little bit. Yeah, it's pretty bad

483
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:14.599
and he's dead. So then she calls he then on

484
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:19.799
a panic and she's like, someone's bewitched me, And he's like, girl,

485
00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:23.240
are you okay, Chica? I think you need some help?

486
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:27.920
Yeah yeah, And so she agrees to contact heal services,

487
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:32.319
but instead she makes a protection charm as she should,

488
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:34.440
from one of the stuff birds. And it's a little

489
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:37.440
bird that we see in the cover. Yeah, yeah, this

490
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:40.720
uh one with the pins on it, like it's wing.

491
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:45.920
I love that she like someone else maybe would have

492
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.200
been like no, no, this isn't real, this isn't real.

493
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:51.240
But she immediately clocked in and she's like, I'm being bewitched.

494
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:54.640
I need to protect myself. And because of all the

495
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:59.119
stories her and how she was like no, and it's

496
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:02.319
it's wild because I got another book. This wouldn't have happened,

497
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:07.319
because you have this studious person in very deep academia

498
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:13.559
at this point who maybe wouldn't embrace this folklore stuff.

499
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:17.559
But she is not like that. Yeah, and maybe because

500
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:19.680
she's so into horror. And also all the stuff her

501
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:26.039
sugar with the Mexican Yeah, which tells and uh you

502
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:29.079
know kind of like oh it could be real. Yeah,

503
00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:35.680
she's not denying, she's embracing. Yeah. Yeah, and it saves

504
00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:40.160
her life really yeah. Yeah. The next day, Minerva meets

505
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:44.799
with Benjamin, the man who is Bessy's with Betty. Yes,

506
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:48.200
thank you. I was like, who's Benjamin? And Benjamin tells

507
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:50.440
Meneva he was friends with Edgar first, and that's how

508
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:53.160
he came to know Betty and they bonded over being

509
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:55.759
different because he was a sexual and she was a lesbian,

510
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:59.839
so they would be each other's dances, sorry, not dances,

511
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:05.240
dates for dances. Hasn't say beards? Yeah, yeah, they were

512
00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:08.319
each other's beards for dances, you know, to keep up

513
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:12.839
with appearances and whatnot. Yeah. And Benjamin shares that Betty

514
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:14.640
spent the last years of her life with him. She

515
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:17.200
had no family around, not much money since she worked

516
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:20.200
as a copy editor. He never believed that Geny run

517
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:24.119
off with Santiago because he actually did some investigating into this.

518
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:26.240
He tried to report on it for the paper he

519
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:29.920
was working for at the time, but it was shot down.

520
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:35.559
But in his investigations he found out that the timelines

521
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:39.440
they don't add up. No, Santiago actually went missing five

522
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:43.880
days before Ginny, and it's unlikely they eloped because he

523
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:47.519
had just landed a full time job with Carolyn's family's company.

524
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:50.799
And Benjamin tried to talk to the other workers to

525
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:53.960
learn a little bit more about Santiago, but Carolyn's dad

526
00:31:54.000 --> 00:32:00.319
shut him down. What a coincidence? And Benjamin also learned

527
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:03.920
that Santiago left all his belongings behind, so it's like,

528
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:06.240
really doesn't make sense that he ran away, right, all

529
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:08.240
his things are still there. They would have packed their

530
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:10.279
stuff up to run away together. You would think, right

531
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:12.920
to start a new life together. Yeah, you gotta have

532
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:19.000
some things, right. Yeah. So then Benjamin brings some boxes

533
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:23.240
of Betty's belongings and in them, Minneva finds the Blacklist,

534
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:26.039
where Betty and Editar kept track of all the weird

535
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:29.519
disappearances in the area. And Benjamin also tells me about

536
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:33.720
how weird he thought that it was that Carolyn swooped

537
00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:38.279
in on Edgar real quick after Deny's appearance, and he's like,

538
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:44.319
that is so distasteful. Yeah, he's like, what kind of Yeah, distasteful, Yeah,

539
00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:46.519
and yeah, and he also he's like, Carolyn, her dad,

540
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:57.640
they were just users of people. They're trash. Yeah, And okay,

541
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:00.599
this is when the light thing happens. When minever gets hold,

542
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:03.640
she's looking through the Blacklist, very eerie, when all of

543
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:07.160
a sudden there's light shines through her windows and at

544
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.720
first she thinks it's a car, but she looks outside

545
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:12.400
and there's no car there, and it's not really like

546
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:17.400
a car light. It's a soft green, wispy missed that

547
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:21.319
turns into a sphere or like a ball, a ball

548
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:27.759
a ball. And we say that because as mostly everyone

549
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:32.559
who listens will know the which is uh signed or

550
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:35.960
tell whatever? The ball of the fire and it's a

551
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:42.880
witch and so there's a little green also Theuci legend.

552
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:49.359
It one of the like supposed real accounts of in

553
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:51.559
somewhere in Mexico. I forgot where in like the nineteen

554
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:55.200
sixties people say they saw like a green mist. Oh

555
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:59.480
I didn't remember that. Yeah, that's what I liked here.

556
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:00.880
I feel like there was like a lot of little

557
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:05.440
like lore of different witches legends. If someone's gonna get

558
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:12.440
the correct lore from a bunch of different places, it is, Yeah.

559
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:16.000
And so this fear gets closer and closer to the window,

560
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:18.119
and then the phone. This part was so creepy. I

561
00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:21.400
thought the phone start drinking, but when she answers, the

562
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:23.480
line is dead and it keeps drinking. So then she

563
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:27.400
does connects the phone classic core movie, y it was

564
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:29.679
it was. And then there's a knock on the back door,

565
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:33.000
which turns more into pounding, and then something starts scratching

566
00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:35.159
under the windows, and then it spreads all over the

567
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.800
house and then the heart the house starts to shake, horrifying,

568
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:42.440
so creepy. And I mean Neva's from Mexico, so she

569
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.280
knows earthquakes and She's like, this is not a normal

570
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:50.320
earth squeak. Yeah, it calms down whatever. But the next night,

571
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:54.400
Neva goes to the same friends party from before, also

572
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:58.519
peer pressured into going by Hideo and but she ends

573
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:01.320
up feeling anxious and overwhelmed. She steps out for some air,

574
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:03.760
but when she's outside something it's the lamps un to

575
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:08.800
the ground. It's getting worse, yeah it is. And she's

576
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:10.960
still on the ground outside when Noah pulls up and

577
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:13.239
he's like, what happened? Are you okay? And he tries

578
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:15.280
to ask her what happened, but she doesn't know who

579
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.480
to trust, so she doesn't tell mem anything. And then

580
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:19.599
he's like, what the hell's wrong with you? Why won't

581
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:24.239
you tell me? He's like, I thought we were friends. Yeah.

582
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:27.199
And then the next day Minneva meets with Christina Everett

583
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:30.639
and this is Thomas's advisor. Oh okay mm hm, And

584
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:33.639
so Christina tells Meneva that Thomas was looking into for

585
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:39.840
his thesis into ectoplasm, spiritualism and art, focusing on American artists,

586
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:46.199
one who attended Stonewidge Ginny, and Christina shares that Thomas

587
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:48.519
was a little weird. He was a witchy guy, he

588
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:52.960
used a wigi board and Terry Card's and Minneva remembers

589
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:55.880
that there's a break in earlier at the Joys House

590
00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:58.360
and she found a wigi board and lit up candles.

591
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:01.360
I see theead this is Joy's house, and then there's

592
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:02.960
the Willows, So I'm like, it's the Joys House at

593
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:06.280
the Willows. That's why I was kind of like a

594
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:09.320
little confused about Yeah, but these I know they are

595
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:13.320
buildings in the college. They't know. At the Joys House though,

596
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:16.679
I think is the old dorm that Ginny and Betting

597
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:19.320
were at. See, I thought that was the Willows, Okay,

598
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:23.480
but I'm not sure. I don't fully remember. And Christina

599
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:25.760
ends up giving me Nettva one of the books on

600
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:29.840
witchcraft that Thomas had left behind, and when Mineva opens

601
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:32.119
the book, she sees that Ginny and by this point

602
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:35.480
she recognizes Jenny's handwriting from everything she's been looking at,

603
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:38.840
but she sees that Genny wrote look beneath the floorboards

604
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:42.760
on the title page of the book dun Dum. That night,

605
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:46.159
Minevra goes to Jenny's old room, where she finds witch's

606
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:49.360
marks on the door and on the window frames, and

607
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:53.840
Minerva feels Genny's ghost there. She tried to She tries

608
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:57.599
to speak to Jenny's ghost, and Jenny's ghost seems to

609
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:02.159
respond by scratching a specific floorboard. So then she goes

610
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.400
to that floorboard and within the gap she finds a

611
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:09.440
note that Genny left behind, which has one name in it,

612
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:17.280
one name a wind Grave. Oh, Carolyn, are wrong, my bad?

613
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:21.559
And then man Neva hears footsteps in the hallway and

614
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.719
she finds Carolyn that's okay, that's when and that's what

615
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:27.199
I was thinking of when I was like, Carolyn, yeah,

616
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:30.760
And she's standing in the doorway smiling like a weirdo. Yeah.

617
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:34.440
And min Neva's she's put two and two together. She's like, oh,

618
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:36.880
Genny couldn't say her name, but she could write it down.

619
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:39.599
And Carolyn's like, well, not really me. It was my

620
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:44.400
dad back then. It was him that writes me right,

621
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:48.800
really with both of them, oh yeah, yeah yeah. And

622
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:51.519
Carolyn says, she'll tell me Neva the truth. If min

623
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.400
Neerva steps out in of the room, she can't touch

624
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:56.760
her in the room. She's safe in them, right because

625
00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:00.840
all the protection marks and Genny's ghost mm hmm. And

626
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:05.599
Mineva is like I'm not coming out, but but yeah,

627
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:08.840
but Carolyn threatens to get he then onto a car accident,

628
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:11.199
so then she said she can't do Is this where

629
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:14.039
she mentions, no, one's parents are not yet it's on

630
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:18.239
the way. Yeah, okay, okay. So Minerva goes with Carolyn

631
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:22.480
because Carolyn threatens to you know, kill he. Basically she's like,

632
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:26.159
speaking of car accidents, don't don't don't. Yeah. So they

633
00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:29.079
go to the factory and Carolyn's like, yes, this is

634
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.800
where I kill people at the factory, and here is

635
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:37.280
where I kill people. Yeah, cut me, and she tells

636
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.039
Carolyn tells me, Neva, what happened the night that Ginny

637
00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:42.719
went missing. So it turns out that Ginny had attacked

638
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:46.079
Carolyn with a pair of scissors, then ran outside into

639
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:49.079
the snow where Carolyn's dad was waiting, because obviously at

640
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:50.880
this point she knew you know who was builting her.

641
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:54.679
And then they both chase Ginny and they'd hope she'd

642
00:38:54.719 --> 00:39:00.719
last longer because fear makes the blood taste better, apparently, Yeah,

643
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:03.320
and they killed her, and they killed her because of

644
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:06.159
her ability, just he ghosts, it makes her blood better,

645
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:11.360
more powerful, right, They drink blood for saying young and

646
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:16.800
power to keep the found business going. Yeah, Santiago was

647
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:19.599
the same. He also had ability less than Ginny, but

648
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:21.440
that's why he was picked to be killed. And they

649
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:23.360
needed like a man and a woman for the ritual.

650
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:27.519
Mm hmm. And and I should remember if I know,

651
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:29.559
I did mention it later on because I remember we're

652
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.880
reading this and it's switching from tailand to timeline. Yeah,

653
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:35.400
we're doing one time at a time. Yeah, Like we

654
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:39.840
learned that Betty overhears Carolyn and her dad talking about

655
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:42.719
like but why him? Why him? Like about picking people

656
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.039
and this is what you know is going on. They're

657
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:48.079
picking who they're gonna kill for the ritual. M h

658
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:51.000
And it turned out that Carolyn was one storting with

659
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.519
Santiago and then she spread rumors about Ginny to cover

660
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:57.440
her tracks, like fucking cage the one that they also

661
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:01.679
supposedly saw with him was her. Yeah, and then yeah,

662
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:04.320
like it was all part of their plan m hm.

663
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:10.639
And if it wasn't for you meddling kids for Minerva. Yeah,

664
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:14.440
And Carolyn admits to killing Thomas again for his blood

665
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.639
because he has he also had some abilities that she

666
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:20.360
sends after shaking his hand at some event, so then

667
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:22.760
she plotted to get close to him and kill him

668
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:27.280
by having him tutor Noah, and she admits to having

669
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:30.079
killed several other students before, so she gets ready to

670
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:33.480
kill me Neva. She puts on this little red plastic

671
00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:36.000
tunic to give the blood off for her. She's like,

672
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:40.079
let make a dress, put my gloves on to hold them.

673
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:45.960
It reminded me of Santa Cruid diet when they cover everything. Yes, yes,

674
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:49.119
So then mine was like, why are you even killing me?

675
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.440
You're already rich, And then Karen's like Carolyn's like, well,

676
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.320
I'm running out of time because there's no descendants to

677
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:59.039
pass on and show you know the way of their

678
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:02.400
evil ways. And she needs Noah to have a grandkid

679
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:06.159
to teach her evil what she waste to because the

680
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:12.239
ability skipped him. And she also admits that she killed

681
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:15.039
Noah's parents to get culture to him to teach him.

682
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:17.039
But that's when she learns he doesn't have ability. Her

683
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:20.960
ability skipped what her son. Her son rejected his abilities.

684
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:24.119
Her son had the abilities rejected him, and so then

685
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.039
she had him killed so she could take their baby,

686
00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:30.039
yeah and raise him in her ways. But turns out

687
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:33.039
he didn't have the ability it skips a generation. Apparently

688
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:39.719
sometimes yeah, I can. So. Then Mi Nedva cuts her wrist,

689
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.000
but in the struggle she's knocked down by the goals.

690
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.679
She can't get back up. She cuts Carolyn's wrist or

691
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:48.800
her own rist. She cuts her own wrist, okay, thank you, yeah,

692
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:50.800
and so she can't get back up, and then Carolyn's

693
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.880
on her drinking from her wrist. But soon Carolyn starts

694
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:57.760
choking coughing of blood and turns out Nedva, on the

695
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:01.480
way to the factory, had been all day. She had

696
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:05.440
mixed witch is poison, poison for witches into her coffee

697
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:07.559
that she had been sipping on all day long, something

698
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:11.920
she learned from Nana Alba. Nana Alba to the rescue,

699
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:18.519
and Carolyn's like, you little bitch, how dare you when

700
00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:21.400
just when I was about to kill you she poison me.

701
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:27.000
So then she's pretty much dying, but she still has

702
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:29.280
a knife, and so she's about to stab me Nedva,

703
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:33.000
but Mi Neva's like help from the ghost, and the

704
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:36.519
ghost helps me Nedva by turning the knife against Carolyn.

705
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:38.800
And this gives me Neva the chance to chop off

706
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:41.760
her head. Because you have to chop off a witch's head,

707
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:45.199
something she learned from Nana Alba. Yeah, and so then

708
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:49.559
she chops off the head and Carolyn's body melts away,

709
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:55.920
and it's now Halloween time. Noah stops spy while min

710
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:59.079
Neiva is carving a pumpkin on her porch, and he's like,

711
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:02.000
I'm dropping out to Boston because the Willows. Oh, I

712
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:05.880
think the Willows might have been their house. Oh yeah,

713
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:11.400
that's okay. The Willows is Carolyn's house. Yeah, that's very

714
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:15.599
close to campus. Yeah, and so on campus. Yeah. And

715
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.360
he's like, the Willows is too big for just me.

716
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:20.960
And he's like, I haven't received any updates about Carolyn

717
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:24.480
going missing. But turns out she was more sick than

718
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.320
she let on, so there's speculation that she ended her life,

719
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:32.800
and some message boards probably read it, yeah, are pointing

720
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:34.920
to him as a suspect. And so they talk about

721
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:37.639
that for a bit, and then they also talk about

722
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:40.480
Neva and no One's like, oh, I can't imagine spending

723
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:43.719
my life in academia. We're so different, but actually we're

724
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:47.599
more like than you think. And she's like what On

725
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:50.280
the inside, She's like what, because she's like, is he

726
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:54.400
saying he also has does he know it's what she's

727
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:56.400
thinking about the whole time? Likely? What does he know?

728
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:00.599
So she doesn't say anything, tell him anything. She's just

729
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:04.239
in her very quiet, observant way. She is so observant. Yeah,

730
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.719
I feel like I reserved, am like her. But not. No,

731
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:13.400
you're not. No, you would never keep it to yourself.

732
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:18.159
I could be like that. I could. No, No, we're not.

733
00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:21.719
We're both being delusional here. No, are you serious? I am.

734
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:26.280
I spent a whole year depressed on work. Nobody knew why.

735
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:28.519
You're right, You're right, you're right. I don't even tell

736
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:32.320
you twill months later. Yeah, I can't believe I am

737
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:38.800
very reserved, Christina. That's not I'm a negative coping skill.

738
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.400
It's not good. It's not. No. No, like like we

739
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:47.679
were saying earlier, it's not only. But my point is

740
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:51.119
that I could keep a secret like me Neva. Yeah. Yeah,

741
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:56.320
and so really I am mean Neva And anyway, no

742
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:58.159
one tells me Neva. And he's like, oh, hopefully we

743
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:01.239
can be friendly, you know, keep friendly after I move away,

744
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:03.519
And she's like, oh, we're friends, and he's like, well,

745
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:08.239
we're not enemies, not yet. And she's like what what

746
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:15.599
Inside She's like what. But so then she's like, well,

747
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:18.000
she's feeling weird about this now because she's like Keith,

748
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:20.239
this bitch knows something. So she's like, I'm gonna I'm

749
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:22.079
gonna hind aside because I have to get ready for something.

750
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:24.119
And he's like, oh, you're not gonna invite me inside

751
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:29.239
and she's like no. But in the inside, she's like thinking,

752
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:33.000
you never invite a witch inside your house. And but

753
00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:37.519
like he didn't have this power, so and Carolyn told her.

754
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:40.920
But Carolyn could have just been saying that that's true.

755
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:44.039
She doesn't know how much he knows. I feel like

756
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:48.119
Noah's not like that, though he has like little moments

757
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:51.719
where it seems like he knows more than he does. True,

758
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:56.039
So I understand, See, you're already talking yourself into into

759
00:45:56.039 --> 00:46:02.519
sharing your secrets. You're right, min Neva's reserved because she's

760
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:06.840
protecting herself. Yeah, it's yeah, it's an unhealthy coping mechanism

761
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:11.920
that has saved her thus far. Yeah, but I just

762
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:16.559
feel like the way that he the laziness, the the

763
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:19.760
stuff that hurt that Caroline has been saying about him.

764
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.159
But what if Carolyn left like a letter she's like, oh,

765
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:24.760
this and this happened. You know, you don't know, right,

766
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:27.679
And Carolyn was a sneaky bitch, she was she was,

767
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.320
so yeah, it's kind of left up in the air. Yeah,

768
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:33.280
and you can't trust the white man, so sorry, a

769
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:43.559
rich white man exactly. So that was a min Neva's story.

770
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:49.639
Alba's story, it begins with her busy prepping, getting the

771
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.480
house in order and all bossing everyone around for the

772
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:57.119
arrival of her uncle Arturo. And she's especially annoyed at

773
00:46:57.119 --> 00:47:00.159
her brother because he's like, what are we doing all

774
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:03.159
of this for that bitch art He sucks, he fucking sucks.

775
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:06.840
He but we hate him by the end, we really

776
00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:16.639
do hate him. Wait wait oh yeah, actually Arturo from

777
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:23.840
from Teresa Prophet. Yes, wait yeah, that's so people know

778
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:29.880
who we're talking about. Anyone who said yes, yeah, something

779
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:34.159
like that. Yeah, that is who I pictured. But I

780
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:38.719
think just because of the name Artudo. Oh anyway, although

781
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:41.119
that there could be annoyed sometimes Alba is super close

782
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:44.079
to him because they were born. Only when you're apart,

783
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:47.320
which has a name. But that's apparently offensive. I heard

784
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:54.440
it's offensive. Yeah, yeah, twins Albado seems to be in

785
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:58.840
love or infatuated with Arturo, so there's it's a lot

786
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:04.800
of uncomfortable moments between them. Yeah. Yeah. And Alba and

787
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:07.719
her family are grieving their dad died only four months

788
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:11.039
before he arrives and they're about to hold a mass

789
00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:13.760
for him. Ardro didn't come for the funeral, but he's

790
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:18.119
there now for the mass, supposedly, but he's there to stay,

791
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:24.840
supposedly to help the mom. Alba tells Artudo how hard

792
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:27.719
things have been lately and how she hates all of

793
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:32.079
the household duties that she's responsible for. What is she like, seventeen?

794
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:35.920
I think so sixteen seventeen? Yeah, so yeah, it's her

795
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:39.400
job now to help. And here we learned that when

796
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:43.159
Alba's mom, Luisa, was sixteen, her mom died and Arturo

797
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:47.039
was only two, so Louisa and the older sister Julia

798
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:50.119
took care of Arturo because their dad had no interest

799
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:53.880
in physically caring for him. And then when Arturo was nine,

800
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:57.239
he went to live with Luisa and Alba's dad in

801
00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:02.920
the rancho Piedras Guebradas, and Arturo's eventually sent to a

802
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:05.800
boarding school because he didn't really care for the rancho life.

803
00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:09.679
He wasn't built for it, despite Alba's dads ever to

804
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:11.920
teach him, and so he was like a city boy,

805
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:16.880
you know. He that's where he thrived TVH. Arturo is

806
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:19.719
a dick and thinks he's better than the quote unquote

807
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:24.199
simple people of the Rancho. But right now Alba is

808
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:28.880
blind to Arturo's air of super superiority. Oh my god,

809
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:36.559
air of superty, some superority, yeah, secret the mass, and

810
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:40.119
she hasn't noticed he better than everyone. Yeah, he's very

811
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:46.039
arrogant and above these people. They're beneath him. Dado, on

812
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:48.840
the other hand, questions Arturo all the time, and he's like,

813
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:51.159
why is this city boy here? And so he's like

814
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:54.159
why is Arturo? Why did he bring so much luggage?

815
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:57.400
And this is where Arturo says that he plans to

816
00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:01.800
stay and help Louisa out because their father's death had

817
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:05.440
been very hard on her, and immediately is like, we

818
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:08.360
don't need or want your help. I've been doing everything.

819
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:10.519
I've been handling everything, and you don't even know shit

820
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:13.840
about running the Rancho like you were sent to boring school.

821
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:15.800
That's how much you don't know about it this life.

822
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:20.719
And he's right later ur Tuo knocks on Albazdor And

823
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:22.960
this is an awkward moment before you get in to that.

824
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:24.599
I was just going to say, real quick, I asked,

825
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:27.559
I really, I especially loved that those hatred of Dudo,

826
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:31.119
same same, I loved it. I was there for it,

827
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:35.840
I was seated. Yeah, and I like, I understand those

828
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:39.039
were different times that things like that did happen. Yeah,

829
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:44.000
oh that the Tuo and albating, Yeah Alba, but no,

830
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:46.360
this is a real thing that does happen. Like because

831
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:48.360
I know a lot of the reviews, a lot of

832
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:53.360
the reviews incest. I can't get behind this discussing incest,

833
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:56.360
but like, this shit did happen, and not only in Mexico.

834
00:50:56.440 --> 00:51:01.880
It happened everywhere where, every everywhere. And I I don't

835
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:04.440
think by writing about it, it's not like she's not

836
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:07.400
supporting it. She's not saying it's okay. Nah. If anything,

837
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:16.320
I think it shows the the dynamic of the unhealthy,

838
00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:22.159
you know, inappropriate dynamic, and that Alaba was obviously, you know,

839
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:27.039
the powerless one who couldn't help, but have this infatuation

840
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:31.440
of you know, one of the only men she was around, Yeah,

841
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:34.840
who she thinks is cool. And I think it happens

842
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:38.239
living the life that she wants. Yeah, she admires him.

843
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:42.119
It turns into something a little more, you know than that,

844
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:46.719
because maybe she's growing up, you know, yeah, hormonal whatever.

845
00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:50.599
And sometimes it happens like younger people will get crushes

846
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:53.519
on their older cousins, their older uncles, and it's on

847
00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:56.119
the uncle the older people to not act on it

848
00:51:56.119 --> 00:52:02.039
because it's inappropriate exactly. But it's not like like, oh,

849
00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:06.599
this is completely okay, Like it's never comes across like that. No,

850
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:08.840
not at all. But we needed to say that because

851
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:12.800
some of the reviews people have been leavings like they

852
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:18.119
think she's condoning it. Yeah and no, so yeah, this

853
00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:20.679
is aquamment number one. He knocks on alabaz door to

854
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:22.719
give her a trinket that he bought her. It's a

855
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:25.360
necklace with a pearl on it, and he helps her

856
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:29.280
put it on in a very creepy, lingering, gross way

857
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:36.119
to read about. And they're low key flirting. A few

858
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:39.000
days past and it's now after the mass and friends

859
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:41.920
of the family, the Molinas among them, were invited to

860
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:46.400
visit them after the mass, and Alabaz chatting with friends

861
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:49.679
and one of the friends points out how hot. Valentine

862
00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:53.159
is who works for the Molinas. Did you cast anyone

863
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:59.440
for Valentine? Okay, maybe what is the show with a

864
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:04.519
little girl of kids in La and my block? Yeah,

865
00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:09.679
the low gangster from that one that was Spooky's younger brother. Oh,

866
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:15.159
because you know there's like young their teens Alba and Valentine. Yeah,

867
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:22.000
like seven, sixteen seventeen, right, yeah, okay, diego tinoco. I

868
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:25.679
could see that. I could see that. The friends also

869
00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:28.360
mentioned that Valentine is alba sweetheart, but al was like,

870
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:31.719
oh my god, no he's not. But then Valentine walks

871
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:34.079
over and he gives Alba some pink roses and he

872
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:37.159
asks to ride with her back to Pierre Squevradas. And

873
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:40.400
once almost everyone's gone, mister Reelina asks Tadeo if he's

874
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:43.119
thought about his offer to buy the farm from Taddeo

875
00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:48.679
and was like nah, and Arduo's like unwarrantedly, but in

876
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:51.119
the conversation he's like, oh, this sounds like a good idea.

877
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:55.079
Fucking bitch that gets mad at Ardudo and he mean

878
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:57.440
mugs him so intensely that the Molinas are like, yeah,

879
00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:01.840
we're gonna go. It's a company now. Yeah, we're gonna go.

880
00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:05.440
And then and Arthur don't argue about selling the farm

881
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:09.360
about talks to Arturo about the argument. And this is

882
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:12.760
our first glimpse. This is our first red flag, a

883
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:16.719
real red flag about how shitty Arturo is. He manipulates

884
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:19.480
by asking, are you mad at me? You want me

885
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:23.039
to leave? I'll leave if you want me to, like

886
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:26.360
turning around the situation, like, yeah, poor me, I have

887
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:31.840
to go now if you want me to. Yeah. Yeah.

888
00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:33.480
I was like, no, I don't want you to leave.

889
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:35.679
Actually I nodded a corner around a piece of yellow

890
00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:38.079
cloth just so you would come visit. And this is

891
00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:43.039
like little things people do, like wearing red underwear for

892
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:45.960
love on New Year's same kind of shit. Yeah, And

893
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:50.960
Arturo judgmentally asks where she learned that nonsense from talking

894
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:52.960
down to her, saying that she's too old to believe

895
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:56.760
in simple superstitions of peasants like a bitch. Yeah, And

896
00:54:56.840 --> 00:54:59.039
Alba tried to defend herself, saying her father used to

897
00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:02.800
believe in these things and he had portents just like her,

898
00:55:03.039 --> 00:55:05.280
and that she knew when Artua was coming because of

899
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:08.840
the portins that she experiences. And they talk the more

900
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:12.960
and Arduro is just fucking creepy. He tells Alba that

901
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:15.519
Tado may belong there in the rancho but she's far

902
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:22.440
too pretty for the rancho life. Gross disgusting, and again

903
00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:27.320
Alba is blameless here, Yeah, Alba, Tadeo, and Arturo go

904
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:30.239
into town to run errands. Alban and Arturo goes to

905
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:34.679
the pharmacy where they're weirdly flirting again. They run into Valentine,

906
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:38.880
who interrupts her disgusting flirting and he excitedly tells Alba,

907
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.280
you won't believe what I have. Arturo is so fucking annoyed,

908
00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:46.800
and he tells Valentine to properly greet his niece, and

909
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:49.679
he's just so fucking rude to him this whole time, like, oh,

910
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:54.639
is this how you say hi to a ladys? I

911
00:55:54.679 --> 00:55:58.519
hate him. Araba leaves with Valentine though, because he wants

912
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:01.280
to talk to about issue that he's having with one

913
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:03.880
of his horses. And then they see that Theo who

914
00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:06.000
seems to be arguing with the witch. And they noticed

915
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:08.440
the witch because she wears out with the red stripe

916
00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:12.079
bringing down which all of the local witches from Los

917
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:15.559
Pinos were Daalel tells him the witch was trying to

918
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:18.440
sell him something, and he invites Valentine over for dinner.

919
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:21.880
Daleo also agrees to stop by early the next day

920
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:25.559
to look at the horse. At dinner, Daaleau mentions that

921
00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:28.519
the arm where the witch scratched him hurts, and he

922
00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:31.440
tells everyone that the woman talked to him about evil spirits.

923
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:36.199
Valentine doesn't think that the woman bet Petoins meant him

924
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:39.360
any harm and says that his family has bought he

925
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:43.159
medos from her, remedies from her before. Artuau is a

926
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:45.559
little bit about this, like nobody's even asking for his

927
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:49.199
stupid fucking opinion, and he's like, people from the countryside

928
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:51.599
are stupid for believing in superstitions, and it's like, shut

929
00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:56.639
them up. Louisa even tells Uda to stop being rude. Yeah,

930
00:56:57.079 --> 00:56:59.320
because he used to be obsessed with her late husband

931
00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:01.800
stories of w and spirits, and to me, this was

932
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:04.199
another red flag right here. Yeah, what do you mean

933
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:06.800
obsessed with this stuff? M hmm. Like and if you

934
00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:09.000
were so obsessed, then all of a sudden, you know,

935
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:10.920
you're like, oh, you're acting like you're not, like, well,

936
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:13.239
what's going on? What's going on? Yeah, what's going on?

937
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:17.760
Especially the bloodiest ones, and they even caught him going

938
00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:22.280
to Los Pinos with the Destto Boy plenty of times,

939
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:26.280
and Arduo defends himself by saying he only went because

940
00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:30.320
of the Destto Boy, but Luisa manages to change the

941
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:34.679
topic again and this was all weird yeah already. When

942
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:39.280
everyone leaves, Arduo has an inappropriate conversation with Alba about

943
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:42.159
Valentine courting her and where he basically says in this

944
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:44.840
conversation that as the man of the house, Taddeo will

945
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:48.519
be the one to choose who's best She'll she'll slip into.

946
00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:53.400
But he says it all grossly like Bulger Dan's your

947
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:57.599
uncles trying to be saying to you. Yeah. But then

948
00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:01.960
they make up and they have another gross flirting The

949
00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:05.320
next morning, after serving breakfast, Alba finds that Tao is

950
00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:07.840
not there, but she thinks something of it since he

951
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:09.519
said he was going to leave early to go check

952
00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:12.719
out Valentine's horse, But then she starts getting worried once

953
00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:15.360
she walks into Dado's room to find a broken pitcher

954
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:18.000
and a patch of blood under one of Dalel's boots

955
00:58:18.039 --> 00:58:22.599
which had been tossed by the headboard, and no one

956
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:25.280
else in the family is really worried for some reason. Well,

957
00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:29.199
obviously Ardudo is gonna dismiss all this. Yeah, and then

958
00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:31.159
her mom is just too busy to be worried. I

959
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:35.440
think at this point, yeah, at this point, yeah, I

960
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:38.280
can tell that something is wrong her and that they

961
00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:40.519
will have this deeper connection. Yeah. Is there're only one

962
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:45.559
year apart, so there are twins. Yeah. Albac goes to

963
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:48.320
Valentine's place and her mom takes her, makes her take

964
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:52.119
Arturo there. They find out that that theyo never made it,

965
00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:54.960
and Valentine ga there's a couple of men to go

966
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:58.199
looking for Taddeo and promises to spling by later to

967
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:02.320
give a an update. And Valentine does come back, but

968
00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:06.800
only with Taddeo's horse. There's no Tadeo, and he says

969
00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:09.079
that they found they found the horse by the river.

970
00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:12.360
A week goes by and the search continues, but there's

971
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:15.880
still no sign of Tadeo. Albert, her mom, and ar

972
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:18.000
Tudo go into town with the hopes of getting the

973
00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:20.480
mayor's help to put out a reward for anyone with

974
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:24.800
information about Daddeo's whereabouts, which Artudo thinks is a waste

975
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:27.079
of money because he wants all of that money, right,

976
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:30.320
He's like, stop wasting my money. Yeah, that's my money,

977
00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:33.920
but Louisa insisted on it. That's her son, like yeah,

978
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:38.400
come on, come on now. Albert pretends she needs something

979
00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:40.159
from the pharmacist so that she doesn't have to go

980
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:43.400
to the mayor's house when she runs into Valentine, and

981
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:48.840
Valentine shares rumors being spread by the townspeople about Tadeo's disappearance.

982
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:52.400
These rumors include that Tadeo was robbed and death were dead,

983
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:55.360
that he ran off with the girl, and that a

984
00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:57.880
witch from Los Pinos put a spell on Tadeo and

985
00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:01.679
killed him. But through her own she senses Alba knows

986
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:06.119
that that they was still alive. Valentine suspects Alva's family

987
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:10.800
has been cursed with bad luck. Luisa and Arturo get back,

988
01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:14.039
and Arturou suggests the higher a pi from the city,

989
01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:17.320
while Valentine suggests that they get a cleansing first, which

990
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:20.159
Arturo immediately shouts down because he's a little bit yeah.

991
01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:24.920
When Valentine leaves, he starts tucking shit to Alba about him,

992
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:32.599
calling Valentine foolish and dumb and believes blah blah blah. Yeah.

993
01:00:32.840 --> 01:00:36.000
Once at home, Artuau apologizes to Alba and she ends

994
01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:39.000
up breaking down in tears and he comforts her. But

995
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:43.480
there's always this discussing weirdness when it comes to these

996
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:46.840
two because of Artudo. Again, he is the inappropriate. We

997
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:50.039
can't be normal. She's just a girl and he is

998
01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:57.639
a freak. But he's a freakish monster taking advantage of

999
01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:03.199
his knees. Yes, exactly, after all, he is a man.

1000
01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:08.840
That night, Alba hears a shrill, whiny noise outside, but

1001
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:10.679
she can't figure out what kind of animal it is,

1002
01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:13.000
and she opens the window and she hears it again,

1003
01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:16.079
along with these scuttering noises, and she hears her a

1004
01:01:16.119 --> 01:01:18.239
couple more times, but she still can't figure out what

1005
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:21.760
kind of animal this is. The next morning, the family

1006
01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:27.400
finds that Theo's horse dead, dead Animalsanda Rancho keep dying

1007
01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:31.920
and Albert keeps having nightmares of Taddeo. Valentine slops by

1008
01:01:31.960 --> 01:01:35.000
and he insists to Alba that her family has been bewitched,

1009
01:01:35.400 --> 01:01:39.039
and she low key agre agrees with him. Albat tells

1010
01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:42.039
Valentine about the noises she heard the other night, and

1011
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:46.159
they fear it. It might be a de yo yokani,

1012
01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:49.119
a kind of witch who sucked human blood and devoured

1013
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:53.280
the hearts of men. The worst kind of witch. Yeah.

1014
01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:57.559
Valantine tells Albat to stay calm because witches get more

1015
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:00.960
power as her victims become more fearful. He tells her

1016
01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:03.280
to put a pair of scissors in a bowl of

1017
01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:06.559
water under her bed to keep any which away. He

1018
01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:09.519
also gives her his necklace because it's been blessed, and

1019
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:12.360
they make a plan to go to Los Pinos next

1020
01:02:12.360 --> 01:02:17.760
Tuesday while Arturo's gone. Before leaving, Valentine gives Alma one

1021
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:21.039
more warning once, which is get a taste of their

1022
01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:24.480
victim's blood. Things get worse and they only get more

1023
01:02:24.519 --> 01:02:28.039
powerful as they drink more blood and their victim falls

1024
01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:32.280
under their spell even more. That night, Alba does the

1025
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:35.519
scissor thing. At the next morning, she finds the scissors

1026
01:02:35.559 --> 01:02:39.079
are hell arrested overnight. It's like they were left out

1027
01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:42.800
in the rain for months. Alba and Valentine go to

1028
01:02:42.840 --> 01:02:47.000
Los Pinos to visit Missus Jovita for her help. Missus

1029
01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:50.719
Jovita immediately tells Alba that there's a shadow upon her

1030
01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:55.199
and that at the Yoyokani is hunting her family. She

1031
01:02:55.320 --> 01:02:58.679
then tells them that at the Yoyokani is dangerous and

1032
01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:02.079
that she needs to make Alba a talisman for protection,

1033
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:04.960
but it's gonna cost more than a bottle of ram

1034
01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:08.440
and coins. Albas stars to feel dumb about having to

1035
01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:11.400
come to miss Hobbida in the first place, because she's like, well,

1036
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:15.679
she wants her money. She's she's a calm woman, even

1037
01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:18.559
more so when missus Kobita, missus are you're saying? Miss

1038
01:03:18.559 --> 01:03:21.480
when missus Hobita asks for Alba's ring as a payment.

1039
01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:27.199
But then missus Hobda correctly guesses that Alba has potents,

1040
01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:31.599
and she warns Albat that that the yoyo Kani wants

1041
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:34.559
to feed from the blood of his victims, bewitches them,

1042
01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:39.599
and that it was the yoyo Kani that ate that

1043
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:43.599
they all. Alba finally hands over the ring after hearing

1044
01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:47.639
all this, and Missus Hobita gives Alabat the talisman. A

1045
01:03:47.719 --> 01:03:50.000
dead dove was seven pins on it, the one on

1046
01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:52.840
the cover of the book. She tells Alba it's stronger

1047
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:55.280
than the scissors. Then she tells al about to prick

1048
01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:57.760
her finger on one of the pins because her blood

1049
01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:01.039
will protect her, and warns her not to allow the

1050
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:04.800
the yo Yogani to drink her blood. When Alba asks

1051
01:04:04.840 --> 01:04:09.960
about destroying the the yo Yogani altogether, missus Hobita tells

1052
01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:13.159
her it's not that simple to do. Alba mentions to

1053
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:15.239
her that her dad used to say, to kill one,

1054
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:17.920
you have to cut the head off or carve their

1055
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:23.360
hearts out. Then they leave. Alba recognizes a woman this

1056
01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:26.679
is the wish that she thinks curstadeo, but Valentine says

1057
01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:30.599
that Dona Petua wouldn't do anything like that, and then

1058
01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:32.760
they have a little argument about it, but then they kiss.

1059
01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:35.840
Then they kiss, yes, and I was like, yes, this

1060
01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:38.039
is an age appropriate relationship for you. And they were

1061
01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:41.320
so sweet, like he was so sweet, and it was

1062
01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:48.119
just like young love, so innocent, your age appropriate again,

1063
01:04:48.199 --> 01:04:52.719
like you said, yeah, yeah, yeah, no weird no, weird

1064
01:04:52.760 --> 01:04:56.679
things yeah on here in this relationship. Yeah. And he's

1065
01:04:56.760 --> 01:04:59.679
respectful and kind of not working, you know, all those

1066
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:06.960
valid use and apparently good looking according to Alba's friends. Yeah,

1067
01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:11.360
things keep going wrong at the Rancho chicken stop laying eggs,

1068
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:16.519
things like that. Alba's emotional and she tells her mom

1069
01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:18.519
in front of their house staff that they're cursed and

1070
01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:22.679
that it was dead, and this upsets her mom. She's like,

1071
01:05:22.719 --> 01:05:24.239
don't be saying that in front of the staff, Like

1072
01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:28.639
they're gonna swear and leave. Yeah, So Albad runs off

1073
01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:32.679
to her room, where Arturo finds her. They have another weird,

1074
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:37.519
gross moment. During these weird moments, Alba always notices a

1075
01:05:37.559 --> 01:05:42.360
shift in Arturo's moods or eyes, which she describes as dark.

1076
01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:47.880
That night, Alba sees a ball of light near the trees,

1077
01:05:49.079 --> 01:05:53.039
which she immediately clogs as a witch. This ball of

1078
01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:56.519
fire emits an owl like sound, but Alaba knows it's

1079
01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:59.599
not an owl, and she's overtaken by an immense by

1080
01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:03.000
any mental fear that she's never felt before. She runs

1081
01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:05.199
to her mom's room, but it's gone by the time

1082
01:06:05.239 --> 01:06:07.039
they make it back to Aliba's room for her to

1083
01:06:07.079 --> 01:06:09.079
show her mom, and her mom doesn't want to hear

1084
01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:11.679
this shit. She doesn't want to hear about witches from Alba.

1085
01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:14.280
She tells Alba she's acting like a child. I have

1086
01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:16.760
enough on my plate. Yeah, She's like, I don't need

1087
01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:18.800
to be thinking about fucking witches. On top of all

1088
01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:22.599
this shit. She's like, your dad died, that they all

1089
01:06:22.679 --> 01:06:24.880
was missing, and I still got to keep this house

1090
01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:27.079
running and shut the fuck up. And now you're over

1091
01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:29.920
here talking about the witch. Shut up, shut up about

1092
01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:34.440
the witches. Shut up a bus and son. Yeah. Alba

1093
01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:38.199
finds herself remembering her kiss with Valentine, and then her

1094
01:06:38.199 --> 01:06:43.079
thoughts drifts off to wishing her Doudle her Deol would

1095
01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:48.079
kiss her. Sorry. Yeah, and she's like what the fuck

1096
01:06:48.159 --> 01:06:50.239
and reads the Bible as soon as she can to repent.

1097
01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:57.039
But you know, in a repressive society where church is

1098
01:06:57.039 --> 01:07:01.599
so important, you you have these kind of gross thoughts

1099
01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:05.760
instead of normal, healthy sexual thoughts. That's where the taboo, really,

1100
01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:12.039
what's the word I'm looking for drives? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

1101
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:17.400
and this repression yeah, and that's why predators can find

1102
01:07:17.639 --> 01:07:23.960
such easy find dollus in these high control environments. Yeah yeah, Okay,

1103
01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:31.320
back to her repenting. That night she dreams that's someone sorry,

1104
01:07:31.360 --> 01:07:35.280
she repents for no reason. Yeah, okay, So that night

1105
01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:38.679
she dreams that someone kissed her, was kissing her neck

1106
01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:41.760
when all of a sudden she fell. Whoever or whatever

1107
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:46.400
it was bit her, and all she sees that night

1108
01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:49.760
is two large eyes fixated on her, and the next

1109
01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:52.679
morning she sees that she has a cut above her heart.

1110
01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:56.119
She scared and so she asks Valentine to go to

1111
01:07:56.239 --> 01:07:59.519
Los Pinos with her. But before she leaves, l Rancho

1112
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:04.199
Arturo's acting kind of weird, asking if she's getting sick,

1113
01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:08.519
that she looks tired. Weird things. Yeah. When they get

1114
01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:12.480
to Los Pinos, they see Jovita, who pretty much tells

1115
01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:16.560
Alba she's fucked because she's learned that the witch has

1116
01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:21.000
bitten Alba. Valentine tells Alba they can lure the witch

1117
01:08:21.039 --> 01:08:23.479
and trap it, just like the old stories, say, let

1118
01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:25.520
me find it, and are you going to read this part?

1119
01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:29.039
This part was fucking cool. Yeah, that's why I'm in it. Okay,

1120
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:31.800
So Valentine says, we'll do as the story say, We'll

1121
01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:34.920
lure it and trap it. Alba looks at him. Valentin

1122
01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:37.520
was nodding, yes, like in that story. My grandfather used

1123
01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:40.800
to tell. We wait until night falls, skin an animal

1124
01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:44.319
and lay its dead carcass upon the ground. Then we

1125
01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:46.960
wait in the shadows until the scent of blood draws

1126
01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:50.039
the the yo yokani out. When it approaches, we take

1127
01:08:50.039 --> 01:08:52.560
a cord and tie a knot, then say some words,

1128
01:08:52.920 --> 01:08:55.640
then tie another knot and say more words. Once you've

1129
01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:58.520
tied twelve knots, it will be trapped. Then you can

1130
01:08:58.560 --> 01:09:01.520
kill it. And the word are. The first word is earth.

1131
01:09:02.199 --> 01:09:04.960
You tell it that you're holding it with earth. Then

1132
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:07.239
you say you're holding it with water, then with fire

1133
01:09:07.319 --> 01:09:10.560
and air. You say it again. We reach twelve. Once

1134
01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:14.279
you've begun tying the knots, you can't stop speaking. That's

1135
01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:16.560
a trick. It might try to scare you or trick you,

1136
01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:22.720
but you must keep going. Amazing. They kiss before going

1137
01:09:22.760 --> 01:09:26.439
their separate ways, and Valentine says he'll go into town

1138
01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:29.960
that evening to get his bullets blessed. And he tells

1139
01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:33.119
all about that, Sorry, I said the word. And he

1140
01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:36.439
tells all about that he should start, Oh, that he

1141
01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:39.960
should start properly courding her instead of this what they've

1142
01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:43.840
been doing. Yeah, and they're the cutest, Like I know,

1143
01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:48.359
I love them. I was also, Yeah, I was devastated.

1144
01:09:48.439 --> 01:09:53.159
We'll get there, We'll get there. Yeah, No, I was too.

1145
01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:58.039
Alba's dream keeps. Alba's dreams keep getting worse, and Alba

1146
01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:01.239
ends up getting a portent that's a terrible will happened

1147
01:10:01.399 --> 01:10:03.199
so she asks her mom she can ride to the

1148
01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:07.079
Molinas because she's worried something has happened to Valentine. She

1149
01:10:07.119 --> 01:10:08.800
tries to make up an excuse to go over there,

1150
01:10:08.920 --> 01:10:11.760
and Ardudo convinces her mom to let her go, but

1151
01:10:12.359 --> 01:10:16.680
offers to join her. When Alba gets to the Molinas,

1152
01:10:16.720 --> 01:10:22.000
she learns que Valentine he just died thirty minutes ago.

1153
01:10:22.880 --> 01:10:27.039
Her portents are like very spot on. Yeah yeah. Alba

1154
01:10:27.079 --> 01:10:30.479
gets overwhelmed at the church service for Valentine, and when

1155
01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:33.079
she steps out for some air, she overhears some of

1156
01:10:33.119 --> 01:10:38.079
the talentspeople say that a mountain lion couldn't have clawed Valentine,

1157
01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:41.600
like that that was witchcraft, and that he was on

1158
01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:46.560
his way to Piedrasquevradas, which is cursed, which is their

1159
01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:51.760
rancho Yah, their curse Rancho. Arturo finds Alba Sabin and

1160
01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:55.760
promises her that they'll leave this curse rancho. But Alba

1161
01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:59.079
gets a portent or image of Valentine's death and she

1162
01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:03.199
vows to event his death and kill the witch and

1163
01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:07.760
just so sad, yeah and so yeah. She literally gets

1164
01:11:07.800 --> 01:11:09.359
a play by a play in her mind of how

1165
01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:13.840
that died. That's how she knows Valentine. Oh my god, sorry,

1166
01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:19.960
I keep getting the confused Valentine. Yes, Valentine. Yeah. And

1167
01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:24.560
so she's gonna avenge her man. She's gonna follow the

1168
01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:27.079
plan that her and Valentine had in the first place

1169
01:11:27.159 --> 01:11:30.039
to kill the witch. And she does this first part.

1170
01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:32.720
She sets the trap with a dead rabbit, and soon

1171
01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:36.600
a creature appears. And now you're going to the page, Yeah,

1172
01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:40.079
because I want to describe what the creature looks like.

1173
01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:45.239
This was so insane as a thing closer to the

1174
01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:48.239
dead rabbit, sniffing and hissing, it seemed to drag what

1175
01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:50.800
did a veil of shadows so that she could not

1176
01:11:50.840 --> 01:11:54.439
see clearly, even as she noticed certain details of its anatomy.

1177
01:11:54.600 --> 01:11:57.319
She saw the line of feathers running down its bony spine,

1178
01:11:57.479 --> 01:11:59.960
the talons like those of an owl, the slick skin

1179
01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:03.079
of an eel for those for this was a creature

1180
01:12:03.119 --> 01:12:07.039
of impossibility, neither mammal nor bird, but something in between

1181
01:12:07.159 --> 01:12:13.119
that moved the gliding smoothness of a snake. Creepy, very creepy.

1182
01:12:14.680 --> 01:12:18.000
And so once the creature starts eating the rabbit, she

1183
01:12:18.039 --> 01:12:20.319
starts biting it with magic. But during the spell, the

1184
01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:24.079
creature tells her to stop Indadel's voice. She tries to

1185
01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:26.439
keep going, but it's having hard time, and then it

1186
01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:30.399
springs forward, pinning her down. The creature starts choking her,

1187
01:12:30.439 --> 01:12:33.680
so she shoots it. As it's dying, the creature turns

1188
01:12:33.720 --> 01:12:38.720
into Dadeo. I'm like, how much can she fucking go through? Man? Yeah,

1189
01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:46.439
that's enough. Yeah, and then she nails her brother. Oh

1190
01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:50.560
my god, because the witch turned him into this creature.

1191
01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:52.359
But she didn't know it was him. She thought with

1192
01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:58.039
the witch, oh my god. Oh and sorry, Dale's body

1193
01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:02.439
just disappears after she Spanish just kills him. Yeah, and

1194
01:13:02.479 --> 01:13:06.479
he's like, you must live on Yeah, very beautifully said, yeah,

1195
01:13:06.479 --> 01:13:11.159
I was crying. Yeah. Alba's mom and Arduro leave for

1196
01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:13.760
the town to meet with the mayor, and while they're gone,

1197
01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:16.720
Alba takes advantage of their absence and goes to Los

1198
01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:23.319
Pinos to speak to the witch that she thought bewitched Dado.

1199
01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:27.720
Perpetua tells Alba that she is not the one hurting

1200
01:13:27.760 --> 01:13:31.439
her family. She was only trying to warrant Dado, and

1201
01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:34.560
Perpetua is surprised that Alba hasn't figured out who the

1202
01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:38.279
witch is yet, since she has you know, yeah, she

1203
01:13:38.359 --> 01:13:40.880
has to know, but she doesn't want to know because

1204
01:13:40.960 --> 01:13:44.720
Alba has a gift of portents and he is also gifted,

1205
01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:50.920
and it seems to run in the family. Before revealing

1206
01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:54.720
that she's talking about Arturo, Perpetua says that he used

1207
01:13:54.760 --> 01:13:57.439
to come with the DeSoto Boy. And this is where

1208
01:13:57.439 --> 01:14:01.359
I was like, oh my god, really there, Yeah, I

1209
01:14:01.399 --> 01:14:05.760
didn't realize it was I do. Oh wow, I was

1210
01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:11.279
a little slow when I was reading this. Anyway, Well

1211
01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:13.479
I knew something was wrong. Yeah, like I knew he

1212
01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:16.600
was there was something super off about him. So here

1213
01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:19.920
I was like, yes, that's right, he is the one

1214
01:14:19.960 --> 01:14:22.720
doing all this anyway, So he used to come with

1215
01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:25.560
this the boy, and he soon asked a lot of questions.

1216
01:14:25.880 --> 01:14:29.720
Abat doesn't believe, and I'm like, come on, but she

1217
01:14:29.720 --> 01:14:32.079
doesn't want to. You know what's so funny when when

1218
01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:35.399
she was like, I'm surprised you haven't figured it out yet.

1219
01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:42.720
The which craft whatever runs in the family, and he

1220
01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:45.880
whatever has abilities like you blah blah, and like I

1221
01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:49.640
kept picturing them the same from the office, when Oscar's

1222
01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:52.680
asking Dwight where him and Angila did it, and he's like,

1223
01:14:52.760 --> 01:14:56.199
you know where, and then yeah, was like, he's like,

1224
01:14:56.239 --> 01:15:01.479
where do I where? And he's like I just like smiling. Yeah, pictured,

1225
01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:03.600
But you know what I think at the same time,

1226
01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:09.159
Artudau really did well for himself when he he did

1227
01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:12.199
what was talking so he ar Tudo really did well

1228
01:15:12.239 --> 01:15:15.159
for himself when he was talking shit about these superstitions. Yeah,

1229
01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:18.640
because he like, it could never be him. Yeah, exactly,

1230
01:15:18.680 --> 01:15:21.560
And he's this sophisticated city boy who would never stoop

1231
01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:24.920
to that lave. So yeah, I think that's one of

1232
01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:27.520
the biggest reasons she doesn't believe it's him. She can't

1233
01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:32.560
even fathom that it's him. Alright, where was I? Alba

1234
01:15:32.680 --> 01:15:35.920
doesn't believe pert Petua so Berbeto was like, all right,

1235
01:15:36.039 --> 01:15:39.680
set a test for him to place. The test is

1236
01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:42.439
for her a place of flower against his lips while

1237
01:15:42.439 --> 01:15:45.319
he's sleeping, and if he's a warlock, it's going to wilt.

1238
01:15:45.880 --> 01:15:48.520
Alba refuses to accept that her uncle would be evil,

1239
01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:52.199
and she accuses Perbeta of cursing him to become evil

1240
01:15:52.239 --> 01:15:55.720
to what end? Al to what exactly? Yeah, come on, Alba.

1241
01:15:56.159 --> 01:15:59.199
Perta is so chill about this because she's like, no,

1242
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:03.880
you'll see, child, you will see. And she also tells

1243
01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:08.199
albat that Arturo killed her daughter, Elena. And in an

1244
01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:12.079
earlier scene that we might have skipped and Arturo are

1245
01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:14.840
having their gross flirty moments and Alba tries to guess

1246
01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:18.560
the name of Arturo's supposed girlfriend and she actually guesses

1247
01:16:18.640 --> 01:16:22.680
the name Elena, and he gets so upset at this,

1248
01:16:22.960 --> 01:16:25.279
and this is why, and I wonder if it was

1249
01:16:25.279 --> 01:16:29.039
like her subconscious and her witchid senses, Yeah, that told

1250
01:16:29.079 --> 01:16:30.680
her to say the name Elena, but she didn't even

1251
01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:33.840
think about that. She just was guessing randomly, so she

1252
01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:36.640
was writing, and yeah, he gets super upset at this.

1253
01:16:37.359 --> 01:16:41.119
Perpetua tells Albada Arturo is a te yo yo kani

1254
01:16:41.560 --> 01:16:44.359
and that he ate Elena's heart raw because she had

1255
01:16:44.359 --> 01:16:47.960
gifts too and it would make him more powerful. Perpetua

1256
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:51.439
shows Alba her hands. She's missing three fingers from one

1257
01:16:51.479 --> 01:16:54.560
hand from when she tried to kill Arturou, and she

1258
01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:58.399
explains that he turns his enemies into animals. And I

1259
01:16:58.439 --> 01:17:00.920
think this maybe is when Albert starting to realize, oh

1260
01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:04.479
my god, that's what happened to Dado and so yeah

1261
01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:07.640
it is Ardudro. So yeah, just like the wild animal

1262
01:17:07.640 --> 01:17:11.399
that killed Valentine and Perpetua tells Alabad that nothing can

1263
01:17:11.479 --> 01:17:13.840
kill Arturo, and she tells her to just run away,

1264
01:17:14.159 --> 01:17:18.640
but begs to know how, and so Perpetua tells her

1265
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:20.760
a story of a young woman who was being bit

1266
01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:25.000
by a sorcerer and falling under the sorcerer's spell until

1267
01:17:25.079 --> 01:17:28.159
they make the girl's blood poison to the sorcerer, and

1268
01:17:28.279 --> 01:17:30.680
once the sorcerer was a sleeper unconscience, they cut its

1269
01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:35.399
head off, which this is where Minerva got the idea. Yeah,

1270
01:17:35.399 --> 01:17:38.399
she learned it from and he learned it from Peto,

1271
01:17:38.760 --> 01:17:40.239
and this on the story goes. Just because I thought

1272
01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:42.720
it was super cool. There is one story. It's about

1273
01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:44.800
a young woman who finds herself under the spell of

1274
01:17:44.800 --> 01:17:47.600
a sorcerer. He flies into her room each night and

1275
01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:50.439
bites her on the neck. For six nights this happens,

1276
01:17:50.479 --> 01:17:53.520
and her family is distraught because each day she grows

1277
01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:56.199
weaker and sicker. But on the seventh day, her brothers

1278
01:17:56.279 --> 01:17:59.520
consulting wise woman. The wise woman tells him to burn

1279
01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:01.760
a painting of their mother, who loved the girl and

1280
01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:05.560
has died. Mix the ashes with salt and the crush

1281
01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:07.479
the wing of a moth, and place them in a

1282
01:18:07.520 --> 01:18:10.680
cup filled with wine, whispered to the wine, telling it

1283
01:18:10.760 --> 01:18:13.399
to protect the young woman. Then have the girl drink

1284
01:18:13.439 --> 01:18:15.800
the wine and open the window to the chamber so

1285
01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:19.399
that the sorcerer may fly in. The white woman tells

1286
01:18:19.439 --> 01:18:23.560
him the sorcerer will drink. Actually, that's the clodest part, oh,

1287
01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:26.520
the first part. Yeah, that's how you make the poison

1288
01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:29.199
the poison. Yeah. Yeah, So if anyone, if this happens

1289
01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:32.520
to anyone, just try that, remember that poison recipe. Keep

1290
01:18:32.560 --> 01:18:37.880
that in mind for the Yes. That night, Alba does

1291
01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:40.119
the flower thing, and sure enough it wilts once it

1292
01:18:40.199 --> 01:18:43.800
touches Ardo's lips. But before she can leave the room,

1293
01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:47.000
Ardros creepy ass, wakes up like he was he knew

1294
01:18:47.039 --> 01:18:48.560
this was going to happen, like he has an Alba

1295
01:18:48.680 --> 01:18:51.560
radar or some shit. He probably does, No, he probably does.

1296
01:18:52.960 --> 01:18:56.119
He threatens Albyan to not screaming for help and confesses

1297
01:18:56.640 --> 01:18:58.760
he needed to get rid of theo because he wouldn't

1298
01:18:58.800 --> 01:19:01.560
sell the farm, and he also killed Valentine because of

1299
01:19:01.600 --> 01:19:04.560
his medaline. He tells her he wants her to be

1300
01:19:04.720 --> 01:19:08.560
his woman, that he knows she wants him too, and

1301
01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:12.880
that she basically summoned him before letting her go, he

1302
01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:17.079
bites her and kisses her. Alba is sick the next day,

1303
01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:19.800
and when her mom checks on her, Alba tries to

1304
01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:21.840
tell her the truth about Arturo, but she can't get

1305
01:19:21.840 --> 01:19:24.159
the words out because her tongue is hied. Similarly to

1306
01:19:25.880 --> 01:19:29.479
Jennie and god Jinny who couldn't write Carolyn's name or

1307
01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:31.960
her dad Carolyn's dance name, and she wrote wing Grave

1308
01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:36.119
because she couldn't say it, very same thing. Arturo and

1309
01:19:36.159 --> 01:19:40.159
her mom talk about selling the farm when Alba's mom leaves,

1310
01:19:40.600 --> 01:19:43.680
and when Alba's mom leaves, Ardudo to Alba is like, haha,

1311
01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:47.760
I did that because he's a bitch. Yeah. Alba resolves

1312
01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:50.119
herself to get rid of Arturo and end all of

1313
01:19:50.159 --> 01:19:53.800
this because he's just gonna keep doing this. Alba goes

1314
01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:56.880
to Arturo and asks what his plan is, and Arturo says,

1315
01:19:56.960 --> 01:19:59.960
once he sells the ranch, they can live in Bachuco

1316
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:03.600
while he travels with the money, their money, the money

1317
01:20:03.640 --> 01:20:05.920
he makes from them, and he implies that he's going

1318
01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:09.520
to kill his dad and sister Julia to collect their

1319
01:20:09.560 --> 01:20:13.239
inheritances too. All right, I did it, and he's like,

1320
01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:17.119
come along so I can keep drinking your blood. He

1321
01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:19.960
also confesses to hurting her while drinking her blood because

1322
01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:22.640
he was jealous of Valentine and that's what when she

1323
01:20:22.680 --> 01:20:25.600
has that dream of something biden her, it was actually

1324
01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:29.560
him and it hurts her because he does that apartments. Yeah,

1325
01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:33.640
because he's a bitch. Yeah. Arturo's like, I'll have you

1326
01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:36.680
no matter what. So Aliba proposes a deal. She'll comply

1327
01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:39.600
with him if he doesn't sell the farm, which Arturo

1328
01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:45.439
agrees to. So she because this is she needs to

1329
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:50.000
do this to make her plan happen, right she They

1330
01:20:50.279 --> 01:20:57.359
do it sex with Yeah, okay, it's disgusting. Yeah. After

1331
01:20:57.399 --> 01:20:59.800
the data is done, she tries to cut off Arturo's head,

1332
01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:02.640
but he wakes up as soon as the blade touches him.

1333
01:21:03.119 --> 01:21:06.479
Albat manages to run away, but he catches her pretty quickly.

1334
01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:09.239
He pins her down and starts shrinking her blood again

1335
01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:12.800
with no restraint. This time, she kisses him as a

1336
01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:15.159
way to distract him, and he falls for it because

1337
01:21:15.199 --> 01:21:18.800
he may be a brujo, but he's a man above all.

1338
01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:26.520
He does keep drinking her blood though while they're doing it. Wait,

1339
01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:29.960
they do it again. Yeah, oh my god, it's like

1340
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:32.560
her way of distracting him. No, I know, I know.

1341
01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:38.840
So they're doing it again. But after a while something

1342
01:21:38.880 --> 01:21:41.920
forces him to slow down. His breathing becomes labored, and

1343
01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:46.000
he's like, what have you done. Alba tells Artudo she's

1344
01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:49.840
poisoned him, but she doesn't stop there. She swings and

1345
01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:53.119
acts over Arturo. He tries to get her to stop.

1346
01:21:53.239 --> 01:21:56.399
He tries to convince her they belong together, but she's

1347
01:21:56.439 --> 01:22:01.000
like nah, nah, and she cuts his head off. Six

1348
01:22:01.079 --> 01:22:04.640
weeks go by and Alba experiences important and she knows

1349
01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:13.640
she's pregnant with the girl and yeah, no, not Mina's mom,

1350
01:22:13.640 --> 01:22:24.119
Minira's grandma. Yeah, yeah, yes, m hm and yeah, and

1351
01:22:24.239 --> 01:22:29.760
that's that. And in this part it's no longer like

1352
01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:35.000
separating the chapters, like as Minerva is basically ending Carolyn,

1353
01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:38.800
you also get like the paragraphs of this of Nana

1354
01:22:38.840 --> 01:22:42.920
Alba and her like that's super cool. I thought, yeah,

1355
01:22:42.960 --> 01:22:53.159
I agree, I agree. Okay, geminy De Beatrice, Yeah, okay,

1356
01:22:53.199 --> 01:23:00.800
so now we're almost done. One more storyline, Beatrice, this

1357
01:23:00.840 --> 01:23:02.600
is the shortest one, I think, Yeah it is. It's

1358
01:23:02.640 --> 01:23:07.520
because it's the manuscript of Virginia of Jinny's disappearance. So

1359
01:23:07.720 --> 01:23:11.239
it starts off with Betty reminiscing how hard the Great

1360
01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:16.039
Depression was for the family, really everyone, and how hard

1361
01:23:16.079 --> 01:23:17.920
it was for a woman during that time too, like,

1362
01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:20.560
for example, they wouldn't get hired if they were married,

1363
01:23:21.079 --> 01:23:25.039
and so, you know, she talks about her only options,

1364
01:23:26.279 --> 01:23:29.039
and she's not rich like Carolyn, right, so she has

1365
01:23:29.159 --> 01:23:32.560
to get her English degree so that she can have

1366
01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:36.079
that to fall back on, you know, if things don't

1367
01:23:36.079 --> 01:23:40.520
work out for her. So Betty talks about putting up

1368
01:23:40.560 --> 01:23:44.199
with Carolyn's bed attitude when it came to Ginny, which

1369
01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:47.520
was her then was her new roommate, because really it

1370
01:23:47.560 --> 01:23:51.000
was a matter of survival for someone like Betty to

1371
01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:53.399
be friends with someone like Carolyn who was rich. Right. Yeah,

1372
01:23:54.279 --> 01:23:56.640
Carolyn came from the wind Grave family who owned the

1373
01:23:56.680 --> 01:24:00.279
wind Grave Manufacturing Company founded in the eighteen thirties and

1374
01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:06.199
had expanded all over Massachusetts, Connecticut and New Hampshire Hampsphere Hams. Sure,

1375
01:24:07.560 --> 01:24:10.359
I've never said that state. I think. I don't think so,

1376
01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:14.640
you Hampshire, Hampshire. I was about to say it the

1377
01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:19.720
same way I heard, and Betty mentioned that Genny transferred

1378
01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:22.479
to their college in the second year and that she

1379
01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:25.119
was beautiful but she was new money, so she wasn't

1380
01:24:25.199 --> 01:24:28.640
readily accepted by Carolyn and the other girls. And then

1381
01:24:28.640 --> 01:24:31.279
on top of being new mini, she was Catholic, not

1382
01:24:31.399 --> 01:24:34.319
Protestant like all the New England people. And she was

1383
01:24:34.319 --> 01:24:37.600
a spicy white you know, they had barely become white Italians.

1384
01:24:37.680 --> 01:24:41.640
Yeah yeah, so yeah, she was looked down upon by

1385
01:24:41.640 --> 01:24:45.359
people like Carolyn and uh yeah, Genny was eccentric. She

1386
01:24:45.399 --> 01:24:47.800
was a spiritualist, and she worded everyone out. But Betty,

1387
01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:54.199
they became close friends, they became besties. Also, Beatrice liked her. Yeah,

1388
01:24:54.239 --> 01:24:58.760
Betty had a girl crush. She liked her. Yeah. Yeah.

1389
01:24:58.840 --> 01:25:02.880
And Carolyn and Jenny argued all the time, and this

1390
01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:04.880
put Betty in a hard place because she couldn't really

1391
01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:08.039
side with Ginny because she had to, you know, keep

1392
01:25:08.079 --> 01:25:10.560
being friends with someone like Carolyn, have someone like that

1393
01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:13.800
on your side. But you know, she loved she loved Ginny,

1394
01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:19.279
but her love for Jenny was unrequited because soon Ginny

1395
01:25:19.359 --> 01:25:23.760
and Editar got together. Yeah, Jenny was straight, she was not. Yeah,

1396
01:25:23.800 --> 01:25:28.600
she wasn't for the girls like Betty was. Unfortunately for Betty.

1397
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:31.720
Yeah yeah, but would it happened so cute? It would

1398
01:25:31.800 --> 01:25:34.439
It would have but then Carolyn wouldn't have wanted to

1399
01:25:34.479 --> 01:25:37.520
kill her because of Edgar, you know, true, well that

1400
01:25:37.560 --> 01:25:41.439
wasn't the only reason. Whatever. Eventually everyone in the house

1401
01:25:41.520 --> 01:25:45.279
became friends with Jenny, at least amicable, and so things

1402
01:25:45.279 --> 01:25:48.920
were financei October up until the Halloween Ball, when Betty

1403
01:25:49.079 --> 01:25:53.439
notices a darkness in Jenny's eyes. Two weeks before Halloween,

1404
01:25:53.640 --> 01:26:00.439
a young man named Santiago, a bad bunny, the man

1405
01:26:00.520 --> 01:26:02.720
later rumored to have run away with Ginny, shows up

1406
01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:05.000
at the house to work as a handyman, and the

1407
01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:07.119
rest of the girls start making fun of Ginny that

1408
01:26:07.199 --> 01:26:09.920
she's being flirty with Santiago, and really she's just being friendly.

1409
01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:12.279
She's the only one talking. She's just being kind, She's

1410
01:26:12.319 --> 01:26:15.800
just being a normal kind of person, right. But although

1411
01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:18.600
back then we should know, like there was different gender

1412
01:26:18.760 --> 01:26:22.239
norms and rules, of course, you know. Yeah, but so yeah,

1413
01:26:22.239 --> 01:26:24.439
everyone makes in her. They think she's being flirty. She's

1414
01:26:24.479 --> 01:26:27.399
not really being fluty because she loves Edgar. And so

1415
01:26:27.479 --> 01:26:30.359
at the Halloween ball, everyone thinks it's weird that Carolyn

1416
01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:34.760
is being overly flirty with Edgar. But more importantly, Benjamin

1417
01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:37.520
tells a group about the wind Grave business not doing

1418
01:26:37.560 --> 01:26:42.319
too hot, and he warns Ginny that Carolyn probably wants

1419
01:26:42.359 --> 01:26:47.039
to steal editor from her for the money, and Jenny's like, no,

1420
01:26:47.319 --> 01:26:49.680
there's no way Edgar would ever do that, and in fact,

1421
01:26:49.800 --> 01:26:54.880
we just got engaged. Betty's heartbroken of course for Betty. Yeah,

1422
01:26:54.920 --> 01:26:57.840
and my dream would have been for her and Jenny

1423
01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:02.199
to just live together forever. Yeah, I would want that

1424
01:27:02.319 --> 01:27:05.720
for Betty. Yeah. At the end of the ball, everyone

1425
01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:09.359
realizes that Ginny is missing, and it's been over half

1426
01:27:09.359 --> 01:27:12.760
an hour since anyone's seen her. When she does finally

1427
01:27:12.760 --> 01:27:18.000
show up, she is She's running towards them and something's wrong.

1428
01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:21.279
She's sobbing. She tells them that she was looking for

1429
01:27:21.319 --> 01:27:23.279
Betty when all of a sudden there was a bend

1430
01:27:23.359 --> 01:27:26.560
on the road and she couldn't see anyone. Oh, but

1431
01:27:26.680 --> 01:27:30.439
she felt like, yeah, just like Thomas. Yeah, well, I

1432
01:27:30.439 --> 01:27:33.359
mean this happened to yeah, And she felt like she

1433
01:27:33.439 --> 01:27:37.760
was being stared at and followed, and she heard footsteps

1434
01:27:37.800 --> 01:27:40.600
that didn't sound human, and she felt like breathing, there's

1435
01:27:40.640 --> 01:27:43.760
breathing down her neck, but nobody was there, and everyone's like, oh,

1436
01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:46.880
it's probably just some guy pranking you. Of course it's

1437
01:27:46.920 --> 01:27:51.600
not yeah. So three days after the dance, Betty and

1438
01:27:51.720 --> 01:27:55.399
Ginny and the friends they hold the seands also Virginia.

1439
01:27:55.600 --> 01:27:58.359
Ginny can't talk to ghosts, and so she holds a

1440
01:27:58.439 --> 01:28:00.560
seance because she wants to find out more about what's

1441
01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:02.720
happened to her, and she wants to talk to her mom,

1442
01:28:03.239 --> 01:28:05.920
who is dead, so her mom's ghost and so four

1443
01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:08.840
of them are needed for the sands. So Betty, Ginny, Carolyn,

1444
01:28:08.880 --> 01:28:11.720
and some other girl named Maryatte all participate and everything's

1445
01:28:11.800 --> 01:28:15.880
chill until Ginny asks spirits, maybe seek your counsel, and

1446
01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:18.119
then all of a sudden there's two knocks, quick one

1447
01:28:18.159 --> 01:28:21.720
after the other, and the knock can get so loud. Well,

1448
01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:24.319
then the knocking gets loud on the table shakes. Then

1449
01:28:24.359 --> 01:28:26.960
Ginny gets all stiff, her eyes are wide open and

1450
01:28:27.039 --> 01:28:30.479
she's like she says, you're in deadly peril for Ginya

1451
01:28:30.840 --> 01:28:35.000
in a voice that's not hers. And when Ginny comes

1452
01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:39.279
to she's just hella drained. She doesn't remember anything. And

1453
01:28:39.319 --> 01:28:42.199
the next day is Sunday, and Sundays are when most

1454
01:28:42.239 --> 01:28:45.560
of the boyfriends come to visit. Because all all contact

1455
01:28:45.600 --> 01:28:50.920
between the two genders, it has to be supervised at

1456
01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:52.800
the house so that's why they all come on Sunday.

1457
01:28:53.920 --> 01:28:56.640
So all the boyfriends come on Sunday, but Edgar doesn't come,

1458
01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:02.000
so Ginny stays in her and Betty's room alone. Betty

1459
01:29:02.399 --> 01:29:04.399
wants to go upstairs to check on Ginny because she's

1460
01:29:04.399 --> 01:29:07.039
worried about her, and then Carolyn butt in and she's like,

1461
01:29:07.079 --> 01:29:08.760
can you be a third reel for me and David?

1462
01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:13.000
She doesn't like David because she likes end her right, right,

1463
01:29:13.039 --> 01:29:15.359
and she's only she says, I'm only keeping him around

1464
01:29:15.399 --> 01:29:17.479
in case things don't work out with someone else, and

1465
01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:20.079
she's talking about her yeah, but no one knows An

1466
01:29:20.319 --> 01:29:24.279
is engaged right to Ginny, and Betty feels like she

1467
01:29:24.279 --> 01:29:28.439
can't say no again because of Carolyn's position, right, yeah.

1468
01:29:28.760 --> 01:29:31.880
And so then during this, Carolyn also tells Betty that

1469
01:29:32.199 --> 01:29:34.359
she thinks Ginny just made up the whole saying thing

1470
01:29:34.479 --> 01:29:37.159
that was an act and that Genny just wanted attention.

1471
01:29:37.680 --> 01:29:42.199
So she's already like starting the bad reputation rumors of Genny. Yeah.

1472
01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:45.560
And so when Betty's finally able to go check on Genny,

1473
01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:48.760
Jenny's in her room and she looks outside and she says,

1474
01:29:48.960 --> 01:29:51.399
sees Jenny talking to Santiago, but it looks like a

1475
01:29:51.399 --> 01:29:55.239
normal conversation, nothing weird, and once Ginny gets back inside,

1476
01:29:55.319 --> 01:29:57.960
she tells Betty that she was talking to Santiago about

1477
01:29:58.000 --> 01:30:00.800
him needing a job and that she might Carolyn about

1478
01:30:00.800 --> 01:30:03.039
it if there's a position for Cynthiago at the mill.

1479
01:30:04.199 --> 01:30:06.439
And then they talk about the sands and Genny says

1480
01:30:06.640 --> 01:30:10.479
that the spirit was frightened, So something's going on, you know,

1481
01:30:10.560 --> 01:30:14.239
something that spirit would be scared of. M h. While

1482
01:30:14.279 --> 01:30:18.279
they're talking, Ginny does end up sharing that back in California,

1483
01:30:18.359 --> 01:30:21.960
she did almost run away with the guy that her

1484
01:30:22.079 --> 01:30:26.039
dad didn't like. So that and she's saying this too

1485
01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:30.680
to Betty, to Betty okay, not Carolyn, No, not Carolyn okay,

1486
01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:34.239
because Betty goes to check on Ginny and they talk

1487
01:30:34.319 --> 01:30:38.239
about Carolyn right, maybe getting a job for something that

1488
01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:42.000
goes right, But Jenny tells Betty that Jenny almost ran

1489
01:30:42.039 --> 01:30:44.960
away with the guy. Yes, right right. I just feel

1490
01:30:44.960 --> 01:30:46.960
like she would have sent this to Carolyn, who then

1491
01:30:47.000 --> 01:30:50.079
would spread like, oh, well she's did it before. Yeah,

1492
01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:54.520
And she doesn't share it with Carolyn, but it does

1493
01:30:54.560 --> 01:30:58.920
get around later and it is part of the reason

1494
01:30:59.119 --> 01:31:03.760
her investigation her disappearance not really investigated. So it's November

1495
01:31:03.800 --> 01:31:07.600
now and Betty finds that Genny's been reading books about witchcraft.

1496
01:31:07.640 --> 01:31:11.600
She's obsessed, and she's also been acting weird, like she

1497
01:31:11.680 --> 01:31:14.439
thinks someone's following her, watching her from the window. She's

1498
01:31:14.439 --> 01:31:17.920
seen floating orbits of the lights hovering in the trees.

1499
01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:23.239
And one morning, Ginny wakes Betty up and she rushes

1500
01:31:23.279 --> 01:31:26.680
her outside to show her footprints by their window, proof

1501
01:31:26.760 --> 01:31:30.960
that someone's been watching her. And that morning Betty hears

1502
01:31:31.039 --> 01:31:35.439
Carolyn and Carolyn's dad. She hears Carolyn's dad telling Carolyn,

1503
01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:37.880
you need to pick up the pace. Things are getting dire,

1504
01:31:38.359 --> 01:31:40.520
and Karlyn's like a little bit easier if we only

1505
01:31:40.520 --> 01:31:42.960
needed one, and she's like, why do we need two?

1506
01:31:43.640 --> 01:31:46.399
And then the dad's like, well, you know why symmetry.

1507
01:31:47.319 --> 01:31:49.880
Wow Wow, Okay, I must have not been paying attention

1508
01:31:49.960 --> 01:31:55.399
because I don't remember this. Yeah. Yeah. So then Betty

1509
01:31:55.439 --> 01:31:57.680
goes to talk with Carolyn. She's like, hey, I'm kind

1510
01:31:57.720 --> 01:32:00.439
of worried about Ginny, and Karen's like, gosh, she probably

1511
01:32:00.479 --> 01:32:03.640
just you know, wants attention again, and then they hears scream.

1512
01:32:04.319 --> 01:32:06.960
So it turns out there's a dead rat in Genny's sheets.

1513
01:32:07.039 --> 01:32:12.039
That's why she's screaming, just like the yeah, the dead

1514
01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:14.920
rat that she saw. So then r after that, it thinks,

1515
01:32:14.920 --> 01:32:18.640
give me a break. Everyone leaves and Betty comes back

1516
01:32:18.720 --> 01:32:22.199
earlier because she needs to work. She's a working goal. Yeah,

1517
01:32:22.239 --> 01:32:26.359
she needs money. Yeah, And she's surprised to find Ginny

1518
01:32:26.359 --> 01:32:29.000
there at the house because everyone usually comes back way later.

1519
01:32:29.640 --> 01:32:32.560
And it turns out that Ginny came back earlier than normal,

1520
01:32:33.199 --> 01:32:36.119
earlier than planned, because Edgar got mad at her because

1521
01:32:36.119 --> 01:32:39.000
she was playing. She was placing in prospective charms at

1522
01:32:39.119 --> 01:32:42.720
his family's house, and she's just trying to protect herself.

1523
01:32:43.039 --> 01:32:45.680
But he thinks doesn't accept anywhere except that he thinks

1524
01:32:45.680 --> 01:32:48.039
she's creepy. But he regrets that. Oh, I'm sure because

1525
01:32:48.119 --> 01:32:50.600
later on he does. But this has to do. This

1526
01:32:50.680 --> 01:32:53.720
has to be why. He later asks, like obsessed will

1527
01:32:53.720 --> 01:32:55.119
find out what happened to her? He's like, if only

1528
01:32:55.159 --> 01:32:58.680
I had believed her, Yeah, yeah, And they also have

1529
01:32:58.680 --> 01:33:01.399
another fight because during her trip, she comes back early

1530
01:33:01.399 --> 01:33:06.199
because while she's over there, Ginny's dad calls her because

1531
01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:09.560
someone sent him a letter expressing concern of her mental health.

1532
01:33:09.880 --> 01:33:14.159
Probably Carolyn, I can only assume, Yeah, and so yeah, everyone,

1533
01:33:14.199 --> 01:33:16.079
because then if the dad is like, you need to

1534
01:33:16.119 --> 01:33:19.239
come back home, and then she goes and she disappears, right,

1535
01:33:19.560 --> 01:33:23.319
make her job easier, Yeah, And so yeah, everyone thinks

1536
01:33:23.359 --> 01:33:28.479
Genny's losing it basically, Yeah. After Thanksgiving, Ginny only gets worse.

1537
01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:36.319
And who's there to step in, Carolyn? Wow, what a coincidence.

1538
01:33:37.119 --> 01:33:39.239
So at this point Edgar is so worried for Ginny

1539
01:33:39.479 --> 01:33:42.960
and he asks Betty to talk Ginny to seeing a doctor.

1540
01:33:44.199 --> 01:33:47.279
And it's now December and one night Betty and the

1541
01:33:47.319 --> 01:33:50.079
rest of the roommates can't find Ginny and one of

1542
01:33:50.119 --> 01:33:52.840
them is like, oh, she's probably with Santiago, just a

1543
01:33:52.880 --> 01:33:56.520
baseless rumor, and this actually pisses Betty off. She's like,

1544
01:33:56.760 --> 01:33:59.439
stop fucking spraying shit around. They all the fuck She's not,

1545
01:34:00.680 --> 01:34:06.960
are you, dumb bitch? And Genny gets home after curfew

1546
01:34:07.079 --> 01:34:09.920
and she ends up telling Betty that she got lost

1547
01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:14.159
coming back from the library because the path just changed again.

1548
01:34:14.399 --> 01:34:19.039
This has happened before. Yeah, and Betty's then after right, yeah,

1549
01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:25.640
and Betty is like, maybe she's seeing a doctor, but

1550
01:34:25.720 --> 01:34:30.119
this only pisses Ginny off, and Genny talks about feeling

1551
01:34:30.199 --> 01:34:33.600
like there's an invisible noose around her neck tightening every day,

1552
01:34:33.880 --> 01:34:37.359
and that something terrible is chasing her. And Betty's like,

1553
01:34:37.840 --> 01:34:42.399
maybe you should see a doctor. But Jenny, she's frazzled,

1554
01:34:42.479 --> 01:34:44.600
right she walks out, She's like, it's there between the trees,

1555
01:34:44.680 --> 01:34:46.920
hiding in the shadows. But they don't see anything once

1556
01:34:46.920 --> 01:34:49.960
they get outside. But that night both of them hear

1557
01:34:50.079 --> 01:34:55.000
a high pitched noise like an owl. Yeah, an owl.

1558
01:34:55.800 --> 01:34:57.960
And so then we're at the day that Genny goes missing.

1559
01:34:58.600 --> 01:35:01.159
Betty is working at a dinner party in exchange for

1560
01:35:01.279 --> 01:35:03.079
being allowed to stay at stone Ridge or the win

1561
01:35:03.159 --> 01:35:06.279
or break, and she's expected to work during the whole party.

1562
01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:10.600
Betty tries to convince Ginny to stay somewhere else until

1563
01:35:10.640 --> 01:35:12.560
two PM, which is the time that Edgar's supposed to

1564
01:35:12.600 --> 01:35:15.239
pick her up. But Ginny's like, I'm fine, I'll be

1565
01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:18.000
I'm fine. I'm safe in my room for many curses

1566
01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:21.520
because she puts up those protective charms, you know, yeah,

1567
01:35:22.520 --> 01:35:24.680
And Betty's like, oh my god, because she thinks, you know,

1568
01:35:24.800 --> 01:35:28.960
Jenny's lost a goddamn mind. Yeah, And so before leaving,

1569
01:35:29.079 --> 01:35:31.239
she's like, hey, if something happens, call me at this number.

1570
01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:34.159
I'll be here. And around seven pm, Ginny calls Betty

1571
01:35:34.319 --> 01:35:36.720
and she's like, I know who'll bewitch me, but I

1572
01:35:36.760 --> 01:35:40.239
can't speak their name because I've been tongue tied. And

1573
01:35:40.359 --> 01:35:44.359
then she's like, if something goes wrong, find bell, book

1574
01:35:44.479 --> 01:35:48.720
and candle before hanging up. Whatever that means. Betty never

1575
01:35:48.760 --> 01:35:53.680
finds out what that means. Yeah, and Betty streaked out, understandably,

1576
01:35:53.840 --> 01:35:57.119
so she leaves a party. But when Betty gets to

1577
01:35:57.439 --> 01:36:00.800
their room, Ginny isn't there, but her and her knitting

1578
01:36:00.840 --> 01:36:02.600
stuff are still there. All her stuff is still there,

1579
01:36:03.119 --> 01:36:05.680
everything mm hmm. And she's nowhere in the house either.

1580
01:36:05.880 --> 01:36:08.319
So then Betty goes outside and she find the trail

1581
01:36:08.520 --> 01:36:12.439
of footsteps and follows them. But soon the footprints just

1582
01:36:12.479 --> 01:36:15.920
become a jumble of steps and they end near a tree.

1583
01:36:17.520 --> 01:36:19.840
And on this note, there's a single drop of blood.

1584
01:36:20.760 --> 01:36:24.079
And then Betty at you know, her story ends by

1585
01:36:24.199 --> 01:36:27.000
just her sharing how botched the investigation into Genny's so

1586
01:36:27.039 --> 01:36:30.279
the parents was and how over the years Edgar was

1587
01:36:30.319 --> 01:36:32.960
only one who understood how she felt about Genny going missing.

1588
01:36:33.760 --> 01:36:36.520
And then of course we learned what actually happens in

1589
01:36:36.640 --> 01:36:41.319
min Neva's story when Carolyn tells her how did she

1590
01:36:41.439 --> 01:36:44.920
get her to get out of her protected room? It

1591
01:36:45.039 --> 01:36:48.319
just wasn't strong enough for both, for both of them,

1592
01:36:48.479 --> 01:36:53.159
her dad and her. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, this makes sense.

1593
01:36:55.039 --> 01:36:58.000
Oh and later when min Neva is in the same room,

1594
01:36:59.600 --> 01:37:02.039
Carolyn can't go in. But it's just Carolyn, it's not Carolyn.

1595
01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:06.920
And she's also protected by Ginny's ghosts like robbers, not

1596
01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:10.039
allowing Carolyn to enter the room. Yeah, okay, but they

1597
01:37:10.039 --> 01:37:12.039
also could have drawned her with something too. We don't

1598
01:37:12.079 --> 01:37:14.800
know that's true. True. I'm curious, I wonder, but I

1599
01:37:14.880 --> 01:37:16.800
think it was that that it was just she wasn't

1600
01:37:16.840 --> 01:37:20.560
strong enough against both of them, especially the dad being

1601
01:37:20.800 --> 01:37:26.760
an older warlock. Yeah that makes sense, all right, And

1602
01:37:26.920 --> 01:37:30.079
this is all timelines. Now, yep, we did it. We

1603
01:37:30.399 --> 01:37:34.520
got through it. And you know what, for three separate timelines,

1604
01:37:34.960 --> 01:37:45.319
that was pretty good. Good discussion questions. The first one,

1605
01:37:47.520 --> 01:37:50.960
as min Neerva investigates Beatrice Tremblay's life and the events

1606
01:37:51.039 --> 01:37:54.239
behind the vanishing, she recalls stories her grandmother told her

1607
01:37:54.279 --> 01:37:57.800
about witchcraft. Well, lessons do you think Minerva draws from

1608
01:37:57.840 --> 01:38:02.600
her grandmother's stories? I mean, I think that she has

1609
01:38:02.720 --> 01:38:06.760
learned to just like everything, no, well everything, but like

1610
01:38:08.239 --> 01:38:10.680
that these things are real, that things this. Yeah. She

1611
01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:15.800
has learned to believe in witchery yeah yeah, and it's

1612
01:38:15.880 --> 01:38:20.520
real and dangerous and her Nana Alba taught her how

1613
01:38:20.640 --> 01:38:24.720
to protect herself. Yeah, and she follows those things and

1614
01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:29.000
she wins. She also I think she gets more in

1615
01:38:29.039 --> 01:38:31.399
tune with her own patents because at the end she

1616
01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:35.319
realizes like, oh, these aren't just migraines. Yeah, that too,

1617
01:38:35.560 --> 01:38:38.239
That's true. So much so that she can't even trust

1618
01:38:38.359 --> 01:38:44.439
Noah at the end, even though they were friends. I thought, well, actually,

1619
01:38:44.720 --> 01:38:46.520
since you said that, I think that kind of brings

1620
01:38:46.600 --> 01:38:49.720
us to the next question. Oh, what did you make

1621
01:38:49.840 --> 01:38:53.279
of the relationship between Minneva and Noah. How would you

1622
01:38:53.359 --> 01:38:55.920
describe their relationship? What do you think it draws them

1623
01:38:56.000 --> 01:39:02.520
to each other? Oh? Okay, So I thought she was like, oh,

1624
01:39:02.600 --> 01:39:08.560
he's just another Brady kid, privileged Braddy, you know kid.

1625
01:39:09.439 --> 01:39:13.640
But then as they talk more, I thought they were

1626
01:39:13.680 --> 01:39:15.960
getting close, and not in a romantic way, but I

1627
01:39:16.039 --> 01:39:17.800
thought like in a friendly way, like they were going

1628
01:39:17.840 --> 01:39:20.920
to be friends. I kind of felt like there was

1629
01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:23.960
vibes between them that even me. Nedava's like, you know,

1630
01:39:24.039 --> 01:39:27.439
when they're like going on coffee dates, he's like talking

1631
01:39:27.520 --> 01:39:29.600
to her a law more and he's like, you're so

1632
01:39:29.760 --> 01:39:32.840
close off blah blah blah, and there I feel like,

1633
01:39:33.119 --> 01:39:34.720
I feel like he tries to like flow with her,

1634
01:39:34.800 --> 01:39:36.560
and she's kind of like because I think there's even

1635
01:39:36.600 --> 01:39:38.319
some parts that She's like, I could I could see

1636
01:39:39.119 --> 01:39:42.760
something there, you know, So yeah, I feel like I think, yeah,

1637
01:39:43.079 --> 01:39:48.119
I feel like, if obvious, leave the witchcraft, the bewitching

1638
01:39:48.359 --> 01:39:51.079
hadn't happened, take away who his mama or who his

1639
01:39:51.199 --> 01:39:54.880
grandma is, I feel I mean, I don't think anything

1640
01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:58.119
would ever happened serious, right, because he has his future

1641
01:39:58.159 --> 01:40:01.279
planned out, he has he's engaged. I think I skipped over.

1642
01:40:01.319 --> 01:40:04.439
I don't think I mentioned any of that. But he's engaged,

1643
01:40:04.479 --> 01:40:07.840
you know, because these this Foumily does arranged marriages and

1644
01:40:07.960 --> 01:40:12.640
whatnot to keep the riches and the business going. But

1645
01:40:12.800 --> 01:40:16.600
he clearly doesn't want that life, although at the end

1646
01:40:16.640 --> 01:40:19.720
he kind of resigns himself to it. And at first

1647
01:40:19.800 --> 01:40:22.840
they're kind of like opposite, right, Like she she's like,

1648
01:40:22.920 --> 01:40:24.600
I'm way better than you. I'm like, waste more than you,

1649
01:40:26.000 --> 01:40:29.560
but I earned this. I yeah, it's just a baby

1650
01:40:29.640 --> 01:40:35.000
worked for this. Yeah, I'm Barbie and you're Can not

1651
01:40:35.119 --> 01:40:37.600
the can I want to be with. Yeah, right, although

1652
01:40:37.640 --> 01:40:40.479
she kind of does. I think she kind of does. Yeah,

1653
01:40:41.600 --> 01:40:45.039
well maybe in the middle. Yeah, not at the end. Yeah,

1654
01:40:45.279 --> 01:40:49.319
not at first and then yeah yeah yeah yeah, I

1655
01:40:49.359 --> 01:40:51.399
don't know. I mean I think that she does kind of,

1656
01:40:52.159 --> 01:40:54.039
you know, is drawn to him a little bit more

1657
01:40:54.279 --> 01:40:56.439
like in the middle. But if I had to think

1658
01:40:56.479 --> 01:40:59.720
about what draws her to Noah, I feel like I

1659
01:40:59.760 --> 01:41:02.479
can't really say. I mean, he's kind of charming and

1660
01:41:02.560 --> 01:41:07.680
he's funny, he's he's friendly. I would say his like

1661
01:41:09.039 --> 01:41:13.000
not honesty, but like he well, no, I guess his honesty,

1662
01:41:13.119 --> 01:41:15.720
like he says things how they are like yeah, I know,

1663
01:41:16.560 --> 01:41:18.880
that's why. I like they're kind of like opposite. Yeah.

1664
01:41:19.159 --> 01:41:21.479
I think that's what draws maybe each other yea for

1665
01:41:21.600 --> 01:41:23.960
her to him that she is not like that, yehond

1666
01:41:24.880 --> 01:41:28.079
But also she kind of she doesn't have time to

1667
01:41:28.199 --> 01:41:32.880
waste on friendly like ten conversations. She wants to get,

1668
01:41:32.960 --> 01:41:36.840
you know, into the thick of like the deepness of conversations.

1669
01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:38.560
That's one of the what the one of their fights

1670
01:41:38.640 --> 01:41:40.960
is about. I think after he takes her back to

1671
01:41:41.039 --> 01:41:43.359
the dorm after the party and she's like, oh, so

1672
01:41:43.439 --> 01:41:44.720
you only want to talk to me when you need

1673
01:41:44.800 --> 01:41:46.479
something from me, And she's like, I didn't ask him

1674
01:41:46.479 --> 01:41:52.119
for anything. Yeah, yeah, so yeah. I think they're the

1675
01:41:52.640 --> 01:41:56.840
Their differences in personality and upbringings and just way of

1676
01:41:56.960 --> 01:42:01.039
being is what draws into each other. Yeah, but I

1677
01:42:01.079 --> 01:42:09.399
guess they're not friends. They're friendly a little bit. Okay,

1678
01:42:09.520 --> 01:42:18.239
let's see me. Neva story is set at Stone Ridge,

1679
01:42:18.279 --> 01:42:21.800
a fictional university inspired by the school the author attended.

1680
01:42:22.279 --> 01:42:26.039
What makes university such popular settings for spooky and dark tells?

1681
01:42:26.520 --> 01:42:28.600
What are some of the local legends you learned about

1682
01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:32.600
your own schools? Oh? My god, schools, they're scary. They're

1683
01:42:32.640 --> 01:42:35.560
scary places. There're a nightmare. That's why there's the perfect

1684
01:42:35.600 --> 01:42:38.239
setting for a spooky story. Let me tell you my

1685
01:42:38.560 --> 01:42:41.680
recurring nightmare is that, like when I'm stressed and I

1686
01:42:41.800 --> 01:42:43.960
know I'm stressed, is because I had this nightmare. I'm

1687
01:42:44.000 --> 01:42:48.560
in school. It's usually high school or college. Sometimes it's college,

1688
01:42:48.600 --> 01:42:52.000
and I'm like, I don't have my schedule printed out.

1689
01:42:52.199 --> 01:42:54.199
No one can tell me where my classes are, No

1690
01:42:54.279 --> 01:42:56.680
one can help me find my schedule. Sometimes I find

1691
01:42:56.760 --> 01:42:58.600
you and you're like, bitch, I don't know where you're

1692
01:42:58.600 --> 01:43:02.159
supposed to be. No one's helping me, and I'm in

1693
01:43:02.199 --> 01:43:04.439
the wrong class, and actually I don't even know because

1694
01:43:04.439 --> 01:43:06.720
I don't know where I'm supposed to be. I have

1695
01:43:06.880 --> 01:43:08.840
had that I'm like in high school, and then I

1696
01:43:08.880 --> 01:43:10.800
go to the school counselor's office and they're like, you

1697
01:43:10.840 --> 01:43:14.680
don't even go here. And then I have a different

1698
01:43:14.760 --> 01:43:18.680
version for your college and that's that's the one where

1699
01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:22.920
I find out I have a class I'm in and

1700
01:43:23.079 --> 01:43:25.760
I have gone all semester because I didn't realize I

1701
01:43:25.840 --> 01:43:29.479
wasn't enrolled in this class. So then I show up

1702
01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:36.840
and it's the final, okay, and it's mad final. No. Yeah,

1703
01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:39.640
same actually have that version too. Yeah, I have a

1704
01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:42.720
work version where and I just dreamt this. I'm not

1705
01:43:42.760 --> 01:43:45.399
even stressed out really about again, but I dreamt this

1706
01:43:45.560 --> 01:43:48.880
like just the other night, and it was that I

1707
01:43:50.560 --> 01:43:52.000
had to be at work early because I had a

1708
01:43:52.079 --> 01:43:54.920
deadline and I had to file something by like in

1709
01:43:54.960 --> 01:43:57.439
the morning, early in the morning, and then I wake

1710
01:43:57.520 --> 01:44:01.199
up that I missed my alarm and it's like ten am,

1711
01:44:02.920 --> 01:44:05.720
and I never I think I haven't been to work

1712
01:44:05.840 --> 01:44:10.479
and I missed my deadline. That's funny anyway, past our

1713
01:44:10.760 --> 01:44:13.720
nightmares of school and I did I did love all

1714
01:44:13.760 --> 01:44:17.479
the tali ins with New Hampshire and Boston and the

1715
01:44:18.279 --> 01:44:21.079
I was gonna say that missing people and yeah, and

1716
01:44:21.239 --> 01:44:23.000
of course that we didn't really get into in the recap,

1717
01:44:23.039 --> 01:44:24.920
but the book goes into a little bit like about

1718
01:44:24.960 --> 01:44:28.039
that the people like missing and the uncanniness, the mysterious,

1719
01:44:28.800 --> 01:44:32.359
uh mystery of it, and like other like when Noah's

1720
01:44:32.359 --> 01:44:35.079
sharing his ghost story with Mi Netava, they talk about

1721
01:44:35.119 --> 01:44:37.920
some other local legends like it's so spooky that i'mosphere,

1722
01:44:37.960 --> 01:44:40.119
I love it. Yeah, and that side of the country

1723
01:44:40.279 --> 01:44:43.079
super haunted. Yeah a school and that side of the country, oh,

1724
01:44:43.119 --> 01:44:46.399
super haunted. But yeah, no, schools is a place of

1725
01:44:46.479 --> 01:44:49.119
huntings and there's so many different energies, so many different

1726
01:44:49.159 --> 01:44:53.279
people going, and sometimes traumatic things happen at school more

1727
01:44:53.760 --> 01:44:58.479
now than ever unfortunately before. Unfortunately, but I mean that's

1728
01:44:58.520 --> 01:45:00.720
why there's so many legends of like, oh, the school

1729
01:45:00.800 --> 01:45:03.439
theater is haunted, and like the ghost of a kid

1730
01:45:03.520 --> 01:45:06.520
who was in theater and then like died, my suicide

1731
01:45:06.720 --> 01:45:10.199
haunts this theater. There's so many sorts like that, and

1732
01:45:10.640 --> 01:45:12.760
if for a local college, for us. It was a

1733
01:45:13.319 --> 01:45:15.439
Mills College. Is that what it's called. Yeah, and that's

1734
01:45:15.479 --> 01:45:19.600
a really old college college and more confidence. You passed

1735
01:45:19.640 --> 01:45:22.039
by the gates and it looks I literally driver them

1736
01:45:22.039 --> 01:45:23.880
all the time because that's the exit that I take

1737
01:45:23.960 --> 01:45:27.199
to go visit our dad. Yeah. Yeah, and yeah it

1738
01:45:27.319 --> 01:45:31.159
looks scary, it looks haunted. I don't remember the legends anymore.

1739
01:45:31.279 --> 01:45:33.600
We did. We do have an episode on them. Yeah,

1740
01:45:33.840 --> 01:45:36.720
one of our school episodes. We I think I was

1741
01:45:36.720 --> 01:45:38.720
a guy stat that way before I was from in it.

1742
01:45:39.399 --> 01:45:44.399
Yeah you were, yeah, yeah, but there's like at least

1743
01:45:44.439 --> 01:45:47.880
three or four stories in that college alone. Like yeah, So,

1744
01:45:50.119 --> 01:45:53.199
was there a scene that you found most frightening or unsettling?

1745
01:45:54.239 --> 01:46:00.000
Oh yeah, I think the one with well it happened

1746
01:46:00.159 --> 01:46:03.560
to mine and Jenny, but I think we really get

1747
01:46:03.600 --> 01:46:07.119
a more feel for it in minette Ra's timeline. But

1748
01:46:07.199 --> 01:46:11.199
when she is lost in the the wherever she's walking,

1749
01:46:11.319 --> 01:46:14.399
like yeah, it changes and it's dark and she hears

1750
01:46:14.520 --> 01:46:17.279
someone following her. I think that's that was the scariest.

1751
01:46:17.279 --> 01:46:19.600
There's like footstep, but there's someone there and she feels

1752
01:46:19.600 --> 01:46:21.920
like she's being watched. That was I think the most

1753
01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:25.840
un settling scene. For me, either that one or no,

1754
01:46:25.960 --> 01:46:29.600
I think that one. Okay, for me, it was the house, Uh,

1755
01:46:29.840 --> 01:46:33.479
when Minette vs at the house and then what happens first?

1756
01:46:34.439 --> 01:46:36.520
I don't remember what happens first, but she hears like

1757
01:46:36.560 --> 01:46:39.359
a knock at the house, the phone rings and they're scratching,

1758
01:46:39.439 --> 01:46:44.560
and that was so eerie. Yeah, you know what? Yeah,

1759
01:46:44.960 --> 01:46:47.600
that one was. That one was pretty bad too. What

1760
01:46:48.239 --> 01:46:53.920
similarities you notice between the women and there are timelines? Man,

1761
01:46:54.079 --> 01:46:57.199
what similarities? Well, I guess I should say the rest

1762
01:46:57.199 --> 01:46:59.000
of the question, and what are some differences in the

1763
01:46:59.079 --> 01:47:02.079
way that they respond to the supernatural happenings they encounter,

1764
01:47:02.800 --> 01:47:05.079
and what do you think accounts for those differences? Okay,

1765
01:47:06.239 --> 01:47:09.479
I so before I get into the similarities, I guess

1766
01:47:09.880 --> 01:47:16.600
the differences. So Alba and Minerva, it's part of their

1767
01:47:16.640 --> 01:47:20.319
culture and their traditions, right, because Nana Alba passes on

1768
01:47:20.520 --> 01:47:26.479
this cultural way and took a while to get there. Yeah.

1769
01:47:26.720 --> 01:47:29.840
But the only reason she's able to be at Doudo

1770
01:47:29.960 --> 01:47:32.680
is because she takes the lessons from Valentine and she

1771
01:47:32.880 --> 01:47:36.840
and her dad and Petru Petua and she you know,

1772
01:47:37.359 --> 01:47:41.680
she's able to to fight because she believes and she

1773
01:47:42.279 --> 01:47:45.680
she did even when Valentine was the one saying you're

1774
01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:48.159
being bewitched. She believed the bewitching is true. She just

1775
01:47:48.319 --> 01:47:50.760
didn't know who was caused. She didn't and she didn't

1776
01:47:50.800 --> 01:47:52.560
want to believe it was causing it. But it's not

1777
01:47:52.640 --> 01:47:54.800
because she didn't believe in which crist right. And once

1778
01:47:54.840 --> 01:47:57.840
she learns and and she has a way to fight it,

1779
01:47:58.039 --> 01:48:01.079
she's fighting it, you know what I mean? Yeah, and

1780
01:48:01.199 --> 01:48:03.279
that's something she passes on to what is the thing

1781
01:48:03.359 --> 01:48:06.399
she says, you learned to live with it or something

1782
01:48:06.479 --> 01:48:10.880
like that. Yeah, and then me Neddva, she has all this, like,

1783
01:48:11.119 --> 01:48:13.960
like I said, cultural wisdom from Nana Alba, and so

1784
01:48:15.840 --> 01:48:18.000
it's part of her survival. Like that's why she's able

1785
01:48:18.039 --> 01:48:21.520
to fight because she she knows how to beat Carolyn.

1786
01:48:21.880 --> 01:48:24.960
No one else knew how to be Carolyn. And that's why. Yeah,

1787
01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:28.239
that's why she lives. Yeah. Yeah, and Genny. Nobody believes her,

1788
01:48:28.479 --> 01:48:30.239
you know, Okay, Genny, I was like, what about Jenny,

1789
01:48:30.239 --> 01:48:32.800
But like nobody believed me nedda Ba either, But but

1790
01:48:32.880 --> 01:48:37.119
we never took it upon herself. She doesn't need Yeah. Yeah,

1791
01:48:37.560 --> 01:48:40.239
and Jenny, I don't think Genny knew I need to

1792
01:48:40.640 --> 01:48:42.880
Genny was more in tune with like the ghosts and

1793
01:48:42.920 --> 01:48:46.319
the spirits, just like commas. Yeah, oh my god. Jenny

1794
01:48:46.319 --> 01:48:48.560
and Thomas were basically the same. Yeah they were, and

1795
01:48:48.680 --> 01:48:50.840
they just didn't they didn't have like that knowledge about

1796
01:48:50.840 --> 01:48:54.800
which is like Neda did. Yeah. Yeah, and even though

1797
01:48:54.880 --> 01:48:58.439
all of them believed, yeah, they didn't know how to

1798
01:48:58.520 --> 01:49:02.800
fight it. Yeah, Genny didn't have the knowledge. Yeah, what

1799
01:49:02.960 --> 01:49:06.119
about to Marty's can you think of any I'm sure

1800
01:49:06.159 --> 01:49:08.760
there are that they all believed that. They all believed,

1801
01:49:09.079 --> 01:49:11.319
like I'm all like, I'm sure there are, yeah, the

1802
01:49:11.439 --> 01:49:17.399
other otherness, paranormal, normal, Yeah, yeah, it's just the only

1803
01:49:17.640 --> 01:49:20.640
the difference is that Jenny didn't know how and they

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01:49:20.640 --> 01:49:24.479
all had the abilities which made them targets. Yes, yes,

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01:49:24.960 --> 01:49:29.840
And just the difference with Alma and Alba and me

1806
01:49:29.960 --> 01:49:33.359
Neva is that they were able because of their culture

1807
01:49:33.439 --> 01:49:35.560
and these stories being passed down and where they lived

1808
01:49:35.600 --> 01:49:38.359
and you know, their background, they knew how to fight

1809
01:49:38.439 --> 01:49:40.800
it or they learned how to fight it, and Jenny

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01:49:40.880 --> 01:49:44.640
didn't have that. And also I guess Genny was alone

1811
01:49:44.840 --> 01:49:48.119
because me did well, No, I don't think anyone really

1812
01:49:48.399 --> 01:49:50.520
believed me Neva. Me never had her ancestors with her,

1813
01:49:50.560 --> 01:49:54.640
but Alba had Valentine and Valentine and Perpetoin. I was

1814
01:49:54.760 --> 01:49:57.800
so so devastated, but yeah, she had them, and her

1815
01:49:57.920 --> 01:50:01.279
dad also imparted like this knowledge on her although he

1816
01:50:01.399 --> 01:50:03.640
wasn't there, but she knows she had his wisdom with

1817
01:50:03.720 --> 01:50:06.239
her too. Yeah, and I think even though in the

1818
01:50:06.359 --> 01:50:09.760
sense of like Jenny and mi Nevra were both like alone. Yeah,

1819
01:50:09.920 --> 01:50:12.920
but min Neva again had her ancestors with her basically,

1820
01:50:13.680 --> 01:50:17.720
and Jenny didn't have that, And I don't really chose

1821
01:50:17.760 --> 01:50:23.159
important of ancestral knowledge. Yeah yeah, wait, wait, what do

1822
01:50:23.199 --> 01:50:25.720
you think will happened to me Neva after afterward the

1823
01:50:25.720 --> 01:50:27.119
story ens, Like do you think she's going to get

1824
01:50:27.159 --> 01:50:29.680
more into the witchery stuff? Like she's I think she's

1825
01:50:29.680 --> 01:50:33.119
fully in now, Oh, she's fully in. And I think

1826
01:50:33.159 --> 01:50:36.520
she's gonna become a famous author. She's gonna become Syria.

1827
01:50:37.520 --> 01:50:40.399
I think that's who is going to Yah. Yeah, she's

1828
01:50:40.439 --> 01:50:44.840
gonna finish her dissertation, She's going to publish. This book

1829
01:50:44.960 --> 01:50:46.359
is going to be like written in a way where

1830
01:50:46.359 --> 01:50:49.439
it becomes so popular. She's going to finish like Beatrice's

1831
01:50:49.560 --> 01:50:53.520
unpublished manuscript about Jenny that's going to be completed. She's

1832
01:50:53.600 --> 01:50:56.920
gonna tie it into her her. She's gonna write the

1833
01:50:57.039 --> 01:51:05.840
bewitchy She's gonna write and then she and then she'll

1834
01:51:05.840 --> 01:51:13.600
write more books. Oh yeah, no, I'm serious. No, yeah, no,

1835
01:51:13.760 --> 01:51:26.520
I'm believing. Okay, okay, I'm picking up what you're putting down. Yeah, okay, good, good, Okay.

1836
01:51:26.600 --> 01:51:33.079
Should we rate the book final dots? Okay? This book

1837
01:51:33.840 --> 01:51:36.920
for me ten out of ten, ten carn stains out

1838
01:51:36.960 --> 01:51:40.680
of ten, carn steins r P. Yes, the cat, yeah,

1839
01:51:40.840 --> 01:51:45.479
thet Yeah. I mean this book had everything that I

1840
01:51:46.199 --> 01:51:49.119
would want in a book. It had timelines. Oh sorry,

1841
01:51:49.479 --> 01:51:51.279
I was gonna say. It also gave me the most

1842
01:51:51.319 --> 01:51:54.720
perfect fall vibes, even though it doesn't exactly happen in

1843
01:51:54.760 --> 01:51:56.920
the fall, but for some reason, it just gave the falls,

1844
01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:00.199
except from it's set from like October to or yes,

1845
01:52:00.239 --> 01:52:02.680
it starts in the summer break, remember, yeah, from Netta.

1846
01:52:02.800 --> 01:52:05.840
But yeah, just I don't know, it's just the college settings.

1847
01:52:05.920 --> 01:52:08.920
Let me pictures that beautiful, those beautiful pictures of the

1848
01:52:08.960 --> 01:52:11.560
East coasts in the fall. I started reading this in

1849
01:52:11.680 --> 01:52:15.079
the summer beach and I finished it in the fall

1850
01:52:15.319 --> 01:52:17.920
with all the trees changing colors. Amazing that was the

1851
01:52:17.960 --> 01:52:20.880
perfect time to be reading this, Yeah, yeah, it really was.

1852
01:52:21.119 --> 01:52:23.119
But you could even be reading this in December, because

1853
01:52:23.279 --> 01:52:27.079
there's December timeline. This is it's a season book and

1854
01:52:27.359 --> 01:52:32.000
all the scenes that's happened, which means, uh, no, I

1855
01:52:32.079 --> 01:52:34.560
had everything I needed in a book for me. Is

1856
01:52:34.600 --> 01:52:37.560
a ten out of ten, Like you said, a timeline

1857
01:52:37.640 --> 01:52:41.880
I love like a different timelines, especially with the Nana

1858
01:52:41.920 --> 01:52:45.760
Alba and the Minetteva tie in like a yeah, generational,

1859
01:52:45.840 --> 01:52:51.000
But it also didn't feel it didn't feel disconnected with No,

1860
01:52:51.199 --> 01:52:54.760
it all tied in together. Yeah, with Beatrice, yeah, through

1861
01:52:55.039 --> 01:52:57.560
through Mi neet Ba and all tied together. Yeah, because

1862
01:52:57.640 --> 01:53:02.079
sometimes timelines can go wrong where they feel disconnected, yeah,

1863
01:53:02.199 --> 01:53:06.239
or disjointed or switching back and forth as unnatural, and

1864
01:53:06.399 --> 01:53:10.000
this was not like that, especially how the end of

1865
01:53:11.479 --> 01:53:12.800
I don't remem if it. I think it was min

1866
01:53:12.840 --> 01:53:16.439
Neva's chapter. How you have the end of nan Alva's

1867
01:53:16.439 --> 01:53:18.800
story there as well, Like it was just perfect the

1868
01:53:18.840 --> 01:53:21.239
way it was written. It just blends into the other.

1869
01:53:22.760 --> 01:53:26.520
And yeah, again I'm seeing the critiques. I know I

1870
01:53:26.560 --> 01:53:29.000
saw one of them. You haven't seen any critiques, oh

1871
01:53:29.319 --> 01:53:34.439
the the the Alba, Oh well yeah I did see

1872
01:53:34.479 --> 01:53:37.199
the about that. We did, say, I feel like our

1873
01:53:37.239 --> 01:53:38.920
thoughts on that a little bit earlier. No, we did.

1874
01:53:38.960 --> 01:53:42.479
It's because I saw one specifically. Okay, like share they wrote,

1875
01:53:43.319 --> 01:53:45.359
well it was normal back then. Okay, well it was normal.

1876
01:53:45.399 --> 01:53:47.720
It doesn't mean I gotta like it. You don't have

1877
01:53:47.880 --> 01:53:50.439
to like it to read. No one's liking it. We're

1878
01:53:50.600 --> 01:53:55.840
all cringin she she didn't write it. Okay, when I

1879
01:53:56.000 --> 01:53:57.800
was reading it, it was it didn't look like it

1880
01:53:57.880 --> 01:54:00.520
was meant to be like you're supposed to like it. No, No,

1881
01:54:00.760 --> 01:54:04.279
that was a critique. I think these practices that did happen,

1882
01:54:04.359 --> 01:54:08.760
it still happened, unfortunately, So what happens, it still happens,

1883
01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:13.000
like to say, and this isn't a celebration of that relationship.

1884
01:54:13.239 --> 01:54:15.439
I don't know, never at any point in fact, it

1885
01:54:15.560 --> 01:54:19.439
almost I feel like I feel like Alba was taken

1886
01:54:19.479 --> 01:54:23.279
advantage of one hundred obviously, like yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah,

1887
01:54:23.840 --> 01:54:26.640
So I don't know. I don't understand those critiques either.

1888
01:54:27.920 --> 01:54:31.920
And even at the end, Alba never like, yes, she

1889
01:54:32.039 --> 01:54:35.239
admires him, she you know whatever, has this crush on

1890
01:54:35.399 --> 01:54:39.000
him that he took advantage of. But at the end,

1891
01:54:39.239 --> 01:54:42.039
she's not thinking of him, like in any positive way.

1892
01:54:42.119 --> 01:54:45.800
She's like, I survived him, Yes, yes, like that was

1893
01:54:45.840 --> 01:54:48.439
the worst thing that happened to her and she survived him. Yeah,

1894
01:54:48.520 --> 01:54:51.359
that's how she describes it, Like, come on, Yeah, so

1895
01:54:51.720 --> 01:54:54.760
I don't understand those critiques at all. Yeah either, but

1896
01:54:54.880 --> 01:54:57.199
yeah otherwise, Yeah, perfect book for me. Ten out of ten.

1897
01:54:57.279 --> 01:55:00.279
What about you? Definitely? Yeah, ten out of ten. Okay, Yeah,

1898
01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:05.199
again we're biased, Like, well, I feel like I'm obviously

1899
01:55:05.199 --> 01:55:07.279
I love everything she writes, but I have rated other

1900
01:55:07.319 --> 01:55:10.880
stuff like three and a high never twenty five. Yeah,

1901
01:55:12.119 --> 01:55:13.840
it means I still like it. It doesn't mean it

1902
01:55:13.960 --> 01:55:17.720
is a fair Yeah, this is a fair rating recommendation

1903
01:55:17.840 --> 01:55:29.279
from us. Yes, ten out of ten for sure. Yeah, okay,

1904
01:55:29.479 --> 01:55:32.199
I think that brings us to the end of the episode. Yes,

1905
01:55:32.520 --> 01:55:34.640
and we do have our next book already picked and

1906
01:55:34.720 --> 01:55:37.439
read by me, we do. What is it? Oh my god,

1907
01:55:37.600 --> 01:55:40.840
Oh my god. It's The Possession about It by the ass. Yes,

1908
01:55:41.239 --> 01:55:44.600
I'm halfway through. I'm almost done. Yeah, I gotta start

1909
01:55:44.640 --> 01:55:46.640
working on those, I guess, but I mean that'll be

1910
01:55:46.680 --> 01:55:50.319
probably January. I think January. Yeah, I'm sure you'll be done, right.

1911
01:55:50.359 --> 01:55:52.479
That's going to try and be done. We were ambitious,

1912
01:55:52.520 --> 01:55:55.560
we were overly ambitious. So I finished, I'd finished. It

1913
01:55:55.680 --> 01:55:57.800
was me this time. Yeah, we said we were hoping

1914
01:55:57.880 --> 01:55:59.439
to finish both of these books by the end of

1915
01:55:59.439 --> 01:56:01.800
the year. But look, we got done with one. They'll

1916
01:56:01.800 --> 01:56:05.760
be witching, yeah with one. And uh yeah, we'll be

1917
01:56:05.880 --> 01:56:09.000
back with our next book Club episode for the Possession

1918
01:56:09.039 --> 01:56:11.640
of the Ads. So I won't share anything, even though

1919
01:56:11.640 --> 01:56:16.800
I'm dying too. I've been enjoying it, all right. So yeah,

1920
01:56:16.920 --> 01:56:19.039
other than that, let us know what you thought of

1921
01:56:19.159 --> 01:56:21.439
this book. Did you love it as much as we did? Yeah,

1922
01:56:21.520 --> 01:56:23.880
let us know, did you not? Even if you disagree,

1923
01:56:23.960 --> 01:56:27.760
you can let us know. Yeah, yeah, and we'll fight you.

1924
01:56:27.800 --> 01:56:30.279
And I'm just kidding, but okay, I guess that brings

1925
01:56:30.359 --> 01:56:33.800
us to the end. Thank you everyone for sitting with us.

1926
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Hopefully you stayed the whole time. Hopefully and even if

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you heard it in pieces, we had a good time

1928
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party about it. So we did. We had a great

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time talking about it. And yeah, I don't know, watch

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01:56:44.399 --> 01:56:51.119
out for dead rats and balls of fire outside that too. Yes,

1931
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all right, stay spooky, we'll catch up one next time.

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