Jan. 24, 2025

What Did She Encounter with Amanda B. Weaver

What Did She Encounter with Amanda B. Weaver

Cristina is joined by author Amanda B. Weaver, who shares her very strange encounter at a Macy's and talks about her amazing espooky book, No one's Gonna Take Her Soul Away.

If you have a spooky story to share, email Espookytales@gmail.com or leave...

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Cristina is joined by author Amanda B. Weaver, who shares her very strange encounter at a Macy's and talks about her amazing espooky book, No one's Gonna Take Her Soul Away.

If you have a spooky story to share, email Espookytales@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at the Espooky Hot Line (360)836-4486. You can also submit it on Discord!

Links to Amanda's book, No One's Gonna Take Her Soul Away and her Horror Book Club Podcast:
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Hi, this is Christina. And before the episode starts, just

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a couple of announcements. One, if you haven't listened to

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my episode with P ANDW. Hansen Homicides, go listen to it.

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It was fun but very depressing but also fun. You

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should go listen. Second announcement, we have a new podcast

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with Laney from It's Haunted, What Now and true crime

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Cases with Laney and Aiden from Susto. If you don't remember,

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that was the whole reason they had an episode with

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us back in October, and we just now finally recorded

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episode one of that podcast. It's called Gonsee Hitos Anonymous,

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where we who are very very qualified to give advice

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on your problems are given advice on your problems. So

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if you have a problem that you want advice on,

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it doesn't matter how small you think it is, send

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it in the infos in the show notes, but you

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can also go to gozehitos anonymous dot com. All right,

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onto the episode. Hi, this is Christina, and this time

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no Karme because she ditched me. But I have an

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awesome guest and I almost forgot to say, but this

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is a Spooky tell Us, the podcast for all Things

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as Spooky true crime. Sometimes not today because we have

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again a special guest that's telling us a paranormal story

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and telling us about her book. Her name is Amanda B.

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Weaver formerly Amanda Ross. She writes dark fantasy and horror,

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and she co hosts the Horror Host support group, book

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club and podcasts, which actually sounds amazing and like you

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would all love it.

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So say, hi, hey, thank you for having me. I'm

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really excited to be here. Yes, you said it right

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for a host poor group. When you reached out to me,

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I was really excited to be on your podcast too,

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because it felt like kids met I was like, ooh,

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more spooky people to talk to you right right.

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Yes, there's always more room to grow your spooky circle.

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Also very sad because I don't know what's going to

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happen to TikTok, but that is where I found Amanda.

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I came across her sharing her story and then I

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was like, oh, I don't I can't watch all this,

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but let me email her right now or send a

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TikTok message because you were sharing your story but I'm like,

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I don't want to hear it right now because I

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want to be surprised. So I heard the beginning, like

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the first three words of like nope, let me just

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send a quick message so we'll see what happens to TikTok.

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But that is where we found each other.

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I know. I'm so glad you reached out, and I'm

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very sad about the TikTok ban. I've been just scrolling

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through all day today, trying to watch as many videos

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as possible, trying to save as many videos. Right, Yeah,

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follow people other places.

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Yeah, find them wherever they're at. And then this episode

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we're gonna do, like we always do, a listener story.

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If you have a story that you want to send

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us email at spookytalesigmail dot com. You can send it

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on discord, you can record a voice now and email that.

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You can call these Spooky hotline. There's a lot of

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ways to get us your paranormal story. We love receiving them.

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So we're gonna hear the listener's story. We're gonna hear

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Amanda's super crazy, creepy story, and then she's going to

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tell us about her book, which I just ordered. It's

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my only, my first and only TikTok shop order.

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Nice.

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Yeah, yeah, I was like, I've never used to talk shop,

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and I was like, oh, let me just get this

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book really quick, so I can't wait for that to

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get here. But we'll talk about that after all the

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paranormal things. Yeah, all right, So let me get into

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this listener's story. And this is a update sort of

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sorts from another story we received. I don't know if

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anyone remembers that story, but it was about a Ouiji

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board that some friends made while the rest of the

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school was on a field trip. They made this like

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makeshift Wigi board with some I don't remember if it

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was rocks or they drew it. I can't remember, but

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it was Teresa who sent it into us, and so

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she's just sending us that update. So here it goes.

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I remembered why my friends and I started doing all

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this paranormal stuff in the sixth grade. In the beginning

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of the school year, a female fourth grader drowned in

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a local river during Labor Day weekend. It really affected

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the school because her surviving siblings still went and the

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school helped the family with fundraising for her burial. I

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tried looking for the news broadcast about this event but

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couldn't find it. I only remember the girl's first name,

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so I couldn't find her on another database regarding local drownings.

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As the family removed her name and info from these records.

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I can respect that. I hope her family is doing

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well and wish them the best. And now this is

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her other STORYO. She titled it school bathroom ritual. I

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don't remember around what time of the school year this happened,

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but it once again involves Chrissy, Pam, and I. It

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was recess and Chrissie suggested we try one of those

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bathroom rituals. It was the kind where you chant or

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recite something and make specific hand and arm movements. It

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involved the bathroom doorway. You do the ritual and then

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press the back of your hands on the doorframe while

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it's open. You take a step back, and the ghost

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or spirit is supposed to raise you or your hands up.

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Once again. Chrissy was conducting this and volunteered me to

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do the ritual first. Chrissy and Pam both stood inside

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the girl's bathroom and I stood in the door facing

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the hallway. I did the ritual and nothing happened. I

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must have done it wrong, or at least rushed it

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because I didn't want to be in anyone's way if

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they had to use the bathroom. Chrissy asked Pam to

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try it, but this time I would be standing outside

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of the door staring at Pam. She did the ritual.

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As she sat back, her arms started to rise on

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their own, and Pam started crying. She pulled her arms

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down and cried. She said her back felt hot. Kirsty

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took her by the sink and lifted the back of

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her shirt from the middle of her back to the

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top of her pants. There were three vivid red scratches.

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She cried even more when she saw the marks through

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the mirror. We took her to the school nurse and

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she calmed down a bit. Eventually, the school nurse asked

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all of us what happened, but we were all separated

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for this interrogation, not them being interrogeted like they did

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a crime. Oh my god. Somehow I ended up in

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a school counseling program because of this. It lasted about

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two weeks and didn't do much for me, as I

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concluded what happened to Pam wasn't paranormal, at least that's

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what I told the counselor. To get out of it.

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I know Chrissy didn't harm Pam because she wasn't close

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enough to scratch her, and the motion would have been

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visible from where I was standing. Pam was fairly petite

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and height and stature, and Chrissy and I were fairly tall,

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about five six. I would have noticed Chrissy lunging to

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scratch Pam. After this experience, we were still curious about

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the paranormal and spirits. But try not to do anything

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in the girl's bathroom. Thank you for your time, and

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stay as spooky.

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Okay, wow, okay, meeting in the ladies room.

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All right, just a little casual, A ritual in the

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girl's bathroom, you.

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Know, yeah, just you know, a casual Wednesday ritual, get

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through the day. Some people were paying some people the rituals.

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You know, yeah, on Wednesdays. Some people were being in on.

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There's two rituals in the bathroom. It's fine, yes, yeah,

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but no, that is for sure weird. I mean, like,

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where did the scratches come from? I don't know. I'm

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curious about the ritual though, because I know several paranormal

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games and I haven't heard of any about like standing

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in the doorway and raising your arm so.

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I haven't heard of that one. I was expecting, you know,

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Bloody Mary or some.

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Bride on that right. And then there's there's another one

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where what was it called? Man, there's too many, but

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I remember there's one where you use your fingers and

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supposedly the spirit is helping you, like raise someone. I

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thought it was going to be that one. Board Yes,

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that's what I thought it was going to be, but no,

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I don't know what this was so interesting.

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The people want to know what the name of this

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one is.

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Yes, please tell it, but no, I wouldn't. I would never.

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I was too scared to do Bloody Mary in the bathroom,

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same same anytime. Soone was like, all right, let's do it.

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They'd like turn everything off and they'd be like bloody

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Marry and they'd be like, nope, nope, I'm leaving. I

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would run out. Yeah, I am a weedie. Even though

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I have this podcast and so many people have paramal

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stories in my family, I'm such a weani. So I

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could never. I could never do any any ritual.

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See, I'm the same way, and the paranormal in this

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case found me. I was not looking for it, right,

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But I'm the same I don't even I don't even

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own a wiki board like that. You know, when you

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talked to me, came out in the hand. Yes, my

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co host owns the hand right, oh the hole, and

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she she nothing's happened. She lives alone. But I said,

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you know you're playing with fire right, you're doing that right?

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No, thank you before back, you're right right, But let's

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get it into your story, like what what happened?

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So this was twenty ten. I was working at Macy's.

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Can believe it? And you know, twenty ten, it feels

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like that was peak Macy's time. It was twenty ten.

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I was in college, so it was I want to

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stay between my junior and senior year, and so I

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was working during the day. I remember that it was

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a Wednesday, so I was working during the day. It

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was about eleven am. I know Wednesday. Things happen on Wednesdays,

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I guess. So I worked in the junior's department, which

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also had the same manager as the addresses department. And

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that's important later to put a pin in that. So

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at this point the store is it went busy. It's

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two hours since opening. Nobody's in there. So my coworker

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and I are just kind of shooting the shit by

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the cash wrap, I'd say, And I had my back

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towards where the customers come, right, And so we're just talking,

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probably talking mess about a coworker and her face just

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suddenly changes from chill to like she just gets this

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litt on her face. So I think it's our manager.

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So I went around prepared to pretend that I'm planing

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or something, and it wasn't. On the other side was

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this woman. She had a blonde bob. It looked, you know,

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bleach blonde. She was wearing casual clothes, jeans, t shirt,

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were blops, and she looked her skin was just ashen.

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But beyond all of that, she was glaring at us

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and her eyes from corner in the corner were black.

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I'm not sure if you've seemed supernatural, but it kind

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of looked like how they stylized the demons where yeahs.

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And I've had people when I'm told the story say well,

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maybe she just had black eyes, And I said, like,

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I got people in my family that had really dark

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brown eyes. I've seen that. I know what that looks like.

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That's not what this was, right, I mean, like the

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part like your eyes still wouldn't be black corner to

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the corner. Do you still need some in your eyes?

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Exactly? Even if you near you have dark eyes and

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you narrow them. It wasn't It wasn't like that. So

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looking at her, you know, little surprise, like not expecting this.

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Then we say, hey, can we help you, and she's

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just glaring at us. So we have to ask her

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a couple of times, ma'am can we help you? Before

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she says the dresses. And she didn't say dresses in

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a normal tempo like dresses. Her voice is very very deep.

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I tried to replicate it when I when I was

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talking to somebody, I said like dresses, but probably deeper

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than that. And it was just the one word. And

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so I point say, hey, it's in the back. You

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go back this way to the left, that's where you'll

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find them. And she just continued to stare. She was

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rooted in place, repeated the instructions again, rooted in place.

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So then my co worker Athena says, we'll show you

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where the dresses are and grabbed my hand for us

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to show this woman where the dresses are.

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I'd be like, you show her where the dresses are?

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That part. I was looking at her like, come on,

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who we like? Who is weed? So we're walking and

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it's not far, you know, it's it's really just the

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other department over takes less than a minute to walk

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over there. But the lady insisted on walking behind us,

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which okay, right. However, like I was so uncomfortable by

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her that it was weird to have my back to her.

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That's what That's what it was. It felt weird for

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her to I just didn't feel safe with her behind

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me because of the vibes. Because the second we met her,

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she just I got this feeling of just this tremendous

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heat all over my body. I was feeling nauseist. I

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had a headache from the second that, Like I said,

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that I met her. So we show her way the

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dresses are and ask her she needs anything else. She

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just turns and looks at us and continues to glare.

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So we like Homer Simpson in that day, and just

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start backing up right, and we just leave and we

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go back to our area. And I'm like girl to Athena,

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like this is this is how you you would end

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up being the first one to die in a horror movie.

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You don't just do that. You don't like you you

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you should have just it's over there.

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So yeah, I just point, but don't move from where

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you are, Just like over there, keep going exactly.

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But she she says, well, you know, I'm loan my

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sales numbers. I wanted to see if I can get

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a sale. Okay, whatever. Then I'm thinking I'm gonna just

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put this incident behind me, not even mention it, even

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though I'm still kind of feeling that nausea, the heat,

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all of that. I think it's just me. But then

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Athena confirms that she also felt the same. She says, like, man,

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I just feel really nauseous hot in here?

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Do you?

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I just feel really hot.

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I've said this so many times from all the stories

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of stories we've heard, but the minute someone else confirms

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what you're feeling, that's like, oh no, this is real,

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this is real exactly.

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And I've had a lot of people on the TikTok

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say that she could have been on drugs, she could

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have been any number of things, and yes, that is

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also a possibility. However, Calma, the second that Athena told

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me that she was feeling the exact same things that

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I was without me even saying anything. Is when I

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knew that this was not something that you know, she's

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just a drug user who was having a bad day,

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right right, So I don't think anything of it. Ladies

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and Dresses. We continue on with our day. An hour

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or so later, our manager comes over and then we

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have a team meeting with the dresses department, and so

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we're all kind of just standing there, managers talking about

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oh specials blah blah blah, and I have a coworker

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in dresses who's looking a little freaked out and like, yo,

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you're good. She starts to tell a story very similar

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to ours of the same woman who's glaring, doesn't really

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say anything and just kind of standing there whatever. And

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it then also describes like, man, I just don't feel good.

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I'm not maybe it ate something for lunch and feeling nauseous.

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I'm you know, I'm really hot whatever, And what she

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also says is that she's putting the dresses back and

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she turns around and the woman's right behind her, like

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she turned around and just up to her notes.

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Like no sense of awareness or like space. Oh no,

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that's odd.

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And so again this is now the third person who's

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had the same experience with this woman. And at this

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point we collectively say to our manager, Hey, this she

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have you seen her? We're all freaked out. We don't

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want to interact with this woman. You know, what do

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we do? Would you be able to help her when

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she comes here? Because mind you, all of us are

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early twenties, our manager was in her forties, so we're

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still very much thinking, oh, I'm a little I'm a kid.

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I'm just say maybe, yeah, right, So we're very much

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still in that I need the adult, even though we're

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all adults, you know, but I need an adultier adult,

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adult adult, like a real adult exactly. So our manager

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just she brushes us off and says, well, you know,

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she's she's probably a drugs she's probably homeless, she'd probably this,

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that and the third, and you know, don't worry about it.

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You know, she like you have to help her. She's

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a customer. She comes by another person who in a

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horror movie would be sacrificed to the horror mom.

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Yes, yes, it's not a final girl.

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No, no, not final energy at all. So I don't

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see this woman for the rest of the day, none

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of us do. We think maybe it was just a random,

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bad experience. But again, all three of us the same

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exact physical sensations when interacting with this woman. I saw

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her one other time, not in the store, but I

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was driving into work and I was about to turn

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left into the parking lot and she was on the

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on the other side of the road, standing by the

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bus stop, just kind of swaying a little bit in

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the in the breeze. And mind you, this is summer.

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It is Fresno, California, so it's that dry heat. Yeah,

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we're talking ninety something degrees right right, no breeze, So

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what are you swaying for?

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Right?

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Like, you know what you do. But even from that

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distance across the street whatever, I could still see the

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same dark like a corner to corner, black eyes, the

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same kind of glaring look as she's staring directly at

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the mazing. So I light timed screen book it into

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the parking lot, walk in, and I'm like, yo, I

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just saw that lady. I just saw her. Oh my,

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And they knew exactly Athena knew exactly who was talking

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about the lady, and dresses knew exactly who I was

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talking about. And we all kind of collectively went like

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shuttered thinking about disparence, and I never saw her again

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at all.

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So ow, I know in your text act you're like,

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I encountered someone like, you know, going on possessed, going

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through a demonic possession.

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I think she was possessed, That's what I was thinking.

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I'm wondering now though, have you heard of black eyed kids?

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Yes?

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Yes, could have a black eyed adult. I don't know

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if they're a thing.

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Yeah, And that's the thing is that I wonder if

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it was that, because usually I think black eyed kids

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don't they ask you, let me end like that they

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want to be invited into your home, your car or

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whatever it is. Yeah, but I mean maybe once they

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hit adulthood, they they I don't know.

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They say they act like weird, like they don't act normal.

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And nothing about this person was normal, like her standing

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to close the way it said dresses. That's why I'm like,

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was it possessed or was it a black eyed adult?

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Right? And again, like I said, you know, people have

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commented saying this person was obviously a you know, a

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drug abuser, and you're making light of that. That's not

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when I'm doing this, not my intention at all I

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would not have told the story if again, I did

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not have those physical sensations, and if I did not

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have other people who also had that same experience, right,

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because we've all been around people who probably had to

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what you're doing, spoke too much? Whatever it is like.

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Yeah, I mean even the heavier drugs, nobody's eyes turn

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you know, completely black.

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Right.

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Yeah, you don't suddenly forget. I mean you can like,

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you know, become very sluggish and things like that, but

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you don't like get too close to people, or your

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voice isn't suddenly a deep like right? Yeah.

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Yeah, So that was I'd say, probably the creepiest thing

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that's happened to me. And I live near the Winchester

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Mystery House and I've toured that place, So.

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Have you seen anything weird? My twin also went to

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the Winchester Mystery House and she was like, no, it's

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just like a normal tour and they try to scare you,

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but I don't. She's like, I don't even know is

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it really haunted. I don't know.

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I don't know that it is. I think it's more

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the story, yeah, more than anything. And you know, it's

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an old house, there's old things in there. In terms

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of the furniture, the clothing and stuff. And I think

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that all that has its own energy. So whether it's

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haunted or not, you're still probably picking up on the

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energy of whoever owned all of these things.

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Right right, that makes sense. Before we get to your book,

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do you have any other panormal experiences that you want

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to share atheen?

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You know, I would say not nothing too intence. I did,

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you know, drive late at night one time and get

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freaked out because somebody was just standing in the middle

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of the road, just standing, you know, and it was

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it was lit, and they were just stockstill, not moving, hurting, creepy,

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you know, But I would say nothing of note. I'm

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I guess I'm thankful to say that I haven't had

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any more paranormal experiences. I like to read about him,

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I like to write about him, but I don't understand,

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like I don't want to have exactly.

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Yeah, one more thing, because you mentioned did you grow

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up in Fresne.

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No, So I went to Fresno State. I grew up

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in the Bay Area.

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Oh where in the Bay Area? Oh, very nice. I

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grew up in Oakland. Yeah, my twitter and I am

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from Oakland. And then we moved to Modesto because I

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was gonna say, if you had grown up in Fresno,

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they say there's a haunted high school there, Roosevelt High School.

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Tracks. I met people who grew up in Fresnel that

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mentioned that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a ghost of a It's always

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it's always a theater usually whenever there is a I

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don't I guess you know, if someone was to hunt

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a high school, it would be a theater, kid like dramatic. Yeah, yeah,

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And I wouldn't expect them in the afterlife to be

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less dramatic. Will They say? The teen's name is Leslie

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Chambers and he haunts the theater. And they even supposedly,

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according to legend, they have plays and each play they

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have to like write in his name that he was

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part of the play or the production is going to

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go bad in some way.

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Okay, that's pretty cool.

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Yeah.

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Why do I feel like they kind of made a

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movie about very similar.

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You know, because there's a lot of supposedly allegedly haunted

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high schools, and they're always going to involve the theater

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and someone. So even if it's not about Fresno and

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Roosevelt High School, if there is a movie out there.

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I'm not. I'm not surprised at all, because again there's

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always either for some reason, the school has a tall

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tower and someone jumped off this tower, or someone died

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by suicide in the theater. Like those are always the

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haunted high school stories. I don't think I've heard another

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variation of a haunted high school.

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Right. Well, there was supposedly a haunted building at Fresno State,

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and coincidentally, it was the Mass Communications and Journalism building,

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which was my major. And the rumor was that somebody

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had hanged themselves in the doorway, and so sometimes the

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doors would open and you know you nobody would be there.

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It was just the door would just open by itself,

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like Motion center doors. So that's you know, that's suspicious.

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Did you see it?

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I did once where I just opened by itself and

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I went.

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Well, that's weird. Yeah, it was it late.

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It was it was one like winter. I had a

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class like you know four whatever saw it booked it

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back to my dorms and not today. Not today?

453
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Yeah, oh man, that's funny. Okay, Well, let's hear about

454
00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:54.880
your book. Should I read this synopsis? I haven't because

455
00:24:54.880 --> 00:24:57.960
I was looking at it because I bought the book

456
00:24:58.440 --> 00:25:01.079
and I'm sure that I read description. I'm like, there's

457
00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:03.480
I don't think there's a single listener that would not

458
00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:06.640
enjoy this book. So the book is called No One's

459
00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:09.440
Going to Take Her Soul Away. Fira Gail is dead.

460
00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:13.400
What's worse, She's in Pandemonia, cast down to the worst

461
00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:17.880
part of this healthscape by a terrifying mercurial goddess who

462
00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:21.240
determines the fate of every being. Sophira knows she doesn't

463
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:25.119
belong in Pandemonia, so she plans to escape, confront the goddess,

464
00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:27.920
and return across the veil back to the land of

465
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:30.880
the living to find the person responsible for her death.

466
00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:34.200
But the journey is treacherous. Sophira must travel the Path

467
00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:37.359
of the Damned, following it through every part of Pandemonia

468
00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:40.319
to make it to the Goddess's seat of power. Along

469
00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:44.039
the way, she meets an irritable yet carrying vampire love

470
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:49.480
vampires whose touch soothes Sophira broke Sophira's broken heart, a

471
00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:53.119
charismatic werewolf, Oh my god, werewolf's too nurseing a betrayal

472
00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:57.279
similar to Sophira's, and a melancholic demon. This book has

473
00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:00.720
it all determined to get her freedom by enemy necessary,

474
00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:04.359
though she recruits them as allies on her quest for retribution.

475
00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:07.279
This is Pandemonia after all. Can any of them truly

476
00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:10.519
be trusted? And will Sophia escape or will she remain

477
00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:15.400
tortured for all eternity? I mean, sounds amazing. Excise me

478
00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:18.079
haites vibes. Do you play games? In all video games?

479
00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:22.240
I do not, but you know I wrote this. It's

480
00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:26.240
very inspired by Jontaus and Ferno and and hell Raiser.

481
00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:28.039
So oh that sounds amazing.

482
00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:32.000
Imagine those three things together with vampires, were wolves and demons,

483
00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:33.519
and that's the book.

484
00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:36.200
That's the baby right there of the book's.

485
00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:37.319
Yeah, that's the baby. Wow.

486
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:40.480
Yeah, what were your I mean you mentioned these three things,

487
00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:42.880
but like what were how long did this take you

488
00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:44.480
to write? Where were the inspiration?

489
00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:44.839
Like?

490
00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:46.240
What give us everything?

491
00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:49.880
So the idea initially popped in my head with the

492
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:53.079
line carriage of Blue Debt. That's all that popped in

493
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:55.480
my head when I initially started thinking of this idea,

494
00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:59.039
and I went through multiple versions of this book, I

495
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:01.839
would say it's quite It leans a lot into Gothic

496
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:05.279
horror there's quite a bit of bodyhore, but there's that

497
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:09.119
Gothic aspect too. The initial idea was it was going

498
00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:11.759
to be set in nineteen oh six, right after the

499
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.480
earthquake in San Francisco, but that proved to be a

500
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.920
little too complicated, though I might still do something with.

501
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:21.079
That, you should, you know.

502
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:27.759
And I just imagined this person in this carriage of

503
00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:32.440
the dead being taken to you know, Hell and knowing

504
00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:35.839
that they don't belong there, and then I thought this

505
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:38.880
kind of gives a little wizard of Oz vibes. Then

506
00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:41.559
I wove that in with the Path of Damned being

507
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:43.839
like the yellow brick road that they have to follow,

508
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:48.480
the three people that the main character meets that helped

509
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:52.279
them along in their journey, and you know, wicked Witch

510
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:55.519
of the West, and you know, analogous with different gods.

511
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:58.960
Then I was listening to a podcast about Dante's Inferno,

512
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:01.240
which is I will always kind of been obsessed with that.

513
00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:06.160
I'm not Catholic or particularly religious, but I've always been

514
00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:10.440
obsessed with the Seven Deadly Sins, thinking why did we

515
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:14.319
choose those? Why specifically? So I just I just took

516
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:16.759
all of it, and then the Hell Raiser elements came

517
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:20.279
through as I was drafting. What would torture look like?

518
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:25.240
And what better example than the cinempites?

519
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:29.839
Right right? Okay, okay, No, this sounds like a great book.

520
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.079
I'm very excited to read it. Yeah. I wish I

521
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:35.720
would have ordered it sooner, but then I forgot of NHD.

522
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:37.519
So I'm like every time I'm like, I'm going to

523
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:39.400
do this, then I don't do it till two months later.

524
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:42.640
But no, I'm glad at least I finally got it,

525
00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:46.359
so for sure I'm going to read it next. But

526
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:50.279
do you have any other like books in the works

527
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:50.759
right now?

528
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:54.359
Yeah? So I'm actually working on a screenplay. Well, so

529
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:58.039
I'm working on two screenplays. Actually. Firstly, I'm working to

530
00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:00.880
adapt No One's going to Take Her sol Away into

531
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:04.799
a movie. You know, I wanted for so long to

532
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:07.680
see this on screen, and I just thought, when I

533
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:10.599
do it myself, if I'm gonna you know, who better

534
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:14.440
to put this vision forth than me? I know what

535
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:16.119
I would want to see on the screen, how I

536
00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:19.000
would want the story to be presented in a different format.

537
00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:21.519
And then I'm working on this other screenplay called Every

538
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:25.279
Last Job, which is kind of based on this tweet

539
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:30.559
that when viral last Year of Mine. Oh and it

540
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:33.400
was a picture of n Hathaway and Sundeia looking gorgeous

541
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:36.559
and stunning and very gothicy. I said that they looked

542
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:41.519
like queens of rival vampire covens conspiring against a common enemy.

543
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:48.799
And I do that again that when viral millions of views,

544
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:53.839
hundreds of thousands of lights and such, people tagging Amazon

545
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:56.400
and Jordan Peel and Hulu and all this, and then

546
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:58.960
I went, okay, well, look let me just let me

547
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:01.480
just write this screenplay real quick for somebody else besides

548
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:06.400
the right, right, And so you know that that tweet

549
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:11.079
is a big component of this screenplay, Every Last Job,

550
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.759
which is about a vampire coven that tears itself apart

551
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:18.160
when their leader dies and leaves no successor.

552
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.640
Wow, So that that sounds so fun. I recently started

553
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:25.200
watching a lot of vampire things because for a patron

554
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:27.759
episode my Twitter and Night, we're going to go through

555
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:29.599
with their zombies already, but we're just going to go

556
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.519
through our favorite vampire media. And so I've been reading

557
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:35.279
a bunch of vampire books. But this sounds like it's

558
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:38.880
going to be so good. I love a I mean

559
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:41.240
that kind of thing where there's like a group and

560
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.640
it's falling apart, like something happened and it's falling apart.

561
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:47.519
What did I just read? Oh my god, it's sat

562
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:52.000
in Alaska. There's a crime. There's colonies of vampires, like

563
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:56.160
vampires and humans. Oh, the Gathering, that's what it is.

564
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:59.440
The Gathering Byja Twitter. So good, so good.

565
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:01.440
That sounds good. That sounded really good.

566
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:04.319
Yes, yeah, you should read it. It's so good. Another

567
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:06.640
one I just read though, that also makes me think

568
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.119
of what you just described.

569
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:08.880
What was this?

570
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:12.519
I'm so bad at names. This one was The Lesser Dead,

571
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:16.359
The Lesser Dead. That that's another fun vampire book. Like

572
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:20.880
there's these vampires that all have agreed to like live

573
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:26.519
underground basically hidden away. And then there's this like other

574
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:29.799
group of vampires that threatens basically the existence of all

575
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:32.960
vampires by doing what they're doing because they're menaces. And

576
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:36.640
then there's like a vampire fight. I hope and spoil anything,

577
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:39.400
but that's what Like. I love both those and just

578
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:41.640
hearing your screenplay, I'm like, no, that's gonna be that's

579
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:42.240
gonna be good.

580
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:44.839
That that sounds so good. You know, I'm so glad

581
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:47.920
that it feels like we're in a monster renaissance. And

582
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:49.880
I say that because I want to see more wear

583
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:52.559
wolves on screen too. They don't get their shine as

584
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.880
much as vampires, that's true, So I just I want

585
00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:58.720
to be part of that. I want to create stuff

586
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:01.680
that people go ooh, I'm getting my vampire fixed. Like,

587
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:05.519
I'm so excited about Sinners. I loved Nasra too.

588
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:08.640
So I have to see that. Still. I heard it's long,

589
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:10.160
and I'm like, all right, I have to set asign

590
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:10.799
the good day for this.

591
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:14.319
She's long long.

592
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:17.279
Yeah, that's what my t told me. Yes, she's long.

593
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:18.000
Be prepared.

594
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.599
If you go into it prepared, then yes. It's funny

595
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:25.519
because I watched it with my girlfriend and she's not

596
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:28.960
a gothic horror girl. She loves horror, but that's not

597
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:33.319
her favorite. She fell asleep a little bit, so you know,

598
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:35.519
I had. When we got out of the theater, I said,

599
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:38.839
here's with you, miss babes. But she liked it. The

600
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:41.519
part she saw she like, so of course she saw.

601
00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:44.759
Yeah, oh my god. And while we're talking about horror,

602
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:47.160
tell me about your podcast.

603
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:51.079
Yes, so Horror host to port Group book Club podcast.

604
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:55.000
So is with one of my besties, Samara, we met

605
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:57.880
in another book club. Actually we met in Fantasy book Club,

606
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.200
and we were always the ones wanting to read more

607
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:04.000
dark fantasy and kind of push that envelope with what

608
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:07.279
the book wreck was. And you know, a lot of

609
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:11.200
people there were really wanting to read stuff with fairies

610
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:13.559
and giving very Lord of the Rings kind of vibes

611
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:14.079
and oh.

612
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.920
No, not like, what's that book everyone loves? And I'm sorry,

613
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:23.079
but I just couldn't Oh yes, yeah, yes, oh my god.

614
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:24.960
I just I'm like, I don't know.

615
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:28.039
Yeah, I mean the book club thankfully was dedicated to

616
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:32.880
reading fantasy by Black Brown. Okay, so that was great,

617
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:35.119
But even so we were wanting.

618
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:37.480
You were like, more dark, more dark, Yeah, give me a.

619
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:40.680
Little, give me a little scarce, yeah, fantasy. And so

620
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:44.160
she and I just connected and she thought of the

621
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.599
book club idea, I thought of the podcast, and we

622
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:49.960
melded it together. We've been doing it for almost three

623
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:54.039
years now, okay, and it's I mean, it's so much fun.

624
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:56.400
We just we talk about everything from the books we

625
00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:59.359
read in the book club we do a monthly review

626
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:03.079
of those books, to what we're watching two different horror

627
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:07.079
subgenres and we'll do every year, you know, our best

628
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:07.880
and worst horror.

629
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.960
Oh my god, how fun. Yeah. No, I am positive

630
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:14.119
that all our listeners are gonna love you and everything

631
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:16.440
you're doing, because yeah, this is like the same stuff

632
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:19.840
that we love. You know, what we should do? There's

633
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:22.960
we have. We read so slow though. We have a

634
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:25.920
book club associated with the podcast called we called it

635
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:28.840
the Spookitos book Club for busy people because we read

636
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.920
so slow, and it's mostly it's like we send out

637
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:36.400
discussion questions on substack and then people were replying, well,

638
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:38.920
we'll go through our own like recap of whatever book

639
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:42.119
we chose and then do discussion questions after and then

640
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:44.519
post the episode, and they don't come out as often

641
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:46.519
because yeah, again we read super slow. But we should

642
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:49.039
take a joint book to do with your co hosts

643
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:51.320
and you guys can come on, Oh my god, let's

644
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:52.199
do it. Let's plan it.

645
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:56.000
Yeah, we'll talk. That'd be so so much fun. We

646
00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:59.599
just actually finished reading This Cursed House. Well, we're finishing

647
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:02.960
reading it, this er January book, This Cursed House by

648
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:06.719
Dale Sendin, which is one of my recommendations because if

649
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:12.079
you love gothic core Southern Gothic Horse specifically, Yes, then

650
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:16.119
you will love this book. I crushed it in a week.

651
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:18.960
And wow, okay, like, because I have.

652
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:21.119
A full time job in addition to doing all this

653
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:22.559
writing and kind of managing.

654
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:27.719
Yeah, so my reading that covers so good, I have

655
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.119
to just so beautiful so everyone can see it. But

656
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:32.960
oh my god, I'm let me add this to my

657
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:35.039
TVR right now, this Curtis House.

658
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:37.039
It's so good and you can get it at the

659
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:39.199
library because one of the things we try to do

660
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:43.679
with picking book club books is make sure that whatever

661
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:46.360
book we can we choose can be gotten at the library.

662
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:51.800
Led yeah, who you know can just buy a new

663
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.599
book every month, so yes, we always do that.

664
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:57.400
I personally love Libby, Like I try not to buy

665
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:00.800
new books unless I'm supporting you know, authors that I'm like, oh, no,

666
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.199
I love this author. I'm going to buy this no

667
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:04.079
matter what. But yeah, I try not to buy new

668
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:07.960
books and mostly just do Libby audiobooks and like ebooks.

669
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:11.159
But what are we just Oh, we just finished The

670
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:14.280
Witches of Olpaso for our our book club, and we

671
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:16.960
just sent out the questions because for us, we only

672
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:23.599
read author horror written by LATINX authors and then but

673
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:26.679
for other horror, I try to change what I read.

674
00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:29.760
So mostly I'm like, I stick to either black authors

675
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:33.199
or LATINX authors because I'm like, for the longest time,

676
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:36.239
I only read white white authors like and I'm like, yeah,

677
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:38.119
I think, like five years ago, I'm like, no more,

678
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:39.199
I'm tired of it.

679
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:43.199
And that, and that's exactly why we also started this too,

680
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:46.079
is because we were creating horror by black authors, by

681
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:50.559
indigenous authors, you know, LATINX authors, et cetera. And so

682
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:55.760
we will read white authors on our own time, right, Yeah,

683
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:59.679
only two or three who I actually will read for

684
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:04.119
them this part, I'm reading black and brown, indigenous, etcetera. Authors.

685
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:08.199
So that's the book club. So we did this Cursed

686
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:11.960
House last month. We did The Visitor by Sergio Gomez.

687
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:16.320
Oh okay, which is a alien Christmas novella.

688
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:18.239
Wow, this sounds fun.

689
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:20.639
It was so good. Sergio Romez is one of my

690
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.199
favorite indie authors to be self published. He has the

691
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:28.360
series I think it's Halloween Slaughter. The first book is

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called Campslaughter.

693
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Okay, I've heard of Campslaughter.

694
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Yeah, it's so good. I loved it. I haven't finished

695
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the series. But so good to this month it's This

696
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Cursed House. Next month is Devil's Killed Devils by Johnny Compton,

697
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and then March is Our Share of Nights by Marina.

698
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I want to say, Enriquez, Oh, that is on our

699
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list of like books to choose from, like our super

700
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:58.840
long ass list. But I haven't wanting to read that.

701
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.199
I feel like I remember seeing that it's super long.

702
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:06.199
It could be, I think, but we put pick books

703
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:09.400
three months in advance. Nice, we can get it from

704
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the library then you requested or you die it or

705
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whatever time.

706
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.760
Some of these holes are insane on Libby, like it

707
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:16.679
gets insane.

708
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:21.760
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we do that three months in advance.

709
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We align it usually with any kind of history month.

710
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:28.400
Oh I love it, love it. Yeah, No, that sounds

711
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:30.000
so good. I'm going to go back and like listen

712
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:33.239
to all the episodes as well. And it's such a

713
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good way to I think, discover like people you have

714
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not read.

715
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Maybe yeah, And I think that's why I was also

716
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:41.159
so glad when you reached out to me, because I've

717
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:44.039
been wanting to read, to listen to more horror podcasts,

718
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:46.840
to support more horror podcasts and just grow that community.

719
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:48.719
Because you're not that many of us.

720
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:51.400
You know, That's what I thought at first when I

721
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:52.960
first started, I'm like, I feel like there's not that

722
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:55.400
many of us. But now I'm like, no, they were there.

723
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:57.800
I just didn't know because it's hard to find. But like,

724
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:01.519
I have found so many fun especial horror horror. Oh

725
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:03.880
my god. I always say it sounds like horror. The

726
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:08.639
word horror, no horror movie review podcast. There's so many

727
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:13.400
fun ones. Girl, that's scary. Have you heard them? I

728
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:16.360
love them. I love them so much. They're my like

729
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:20.119
top and my top ten for sure. And then oh

730
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:23.119
my god, what is Sharai is the host and she

731
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:27.840
oh nightmareight we're on fear Street and Blurty Massacre, both

732
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:30.639
so fun. Oh my gosh. Yes, and they're like they're

733
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:33.039
out there. You know. She has a are you on

734
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:33.519
Blue Sky?

735
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:37.199
I am just starting to get my feet right in it.

736
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:39.960
I haven't been on it as much, but I'm going

737
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:40.760
to be on it now.

738
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:44.400
Yeah, we have no choice but to find new social

739
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:48.639
media places to go. But she made a list of

740
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:53.239
like all horror black horror creators and it's huge, Like

741
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:55.679
I'll look for the link to send to you. Because

742
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:58.119
there's so many like cool people that I'm like, didn't

743
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:00.800
even know we're out here like creating things. And that's

744
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:04.519
the fun thing about like finding people rip TikTok through

745
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.119
TikTok because you like people that I would have never

746
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:10.719
found before, like your video. I'm like, oh, this is perfect.

747
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:13.639
It's like the algorithm knew what I wanted you, you know,

748
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:17.360
and all the things are doing. So I'm gonna miss that.

749
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:18.239
I'm going to miss that.

750
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:20.960
Yeah, we're just going to have to make our own community.

751
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.920
I did so. Samorrow did bring to my attention this

752
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:28.639
platform called slasher. I guess it's a social media platform

753
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:32.159
for horror. Love you heard of this, Okay, now I

754
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:36.239
just signed up. I don't know what it's given yet. Yes,

755
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:41.039
but it could be the place for the horror community. Okay,

756
00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:44.599
you know, I'm I'm cautiously optimistic.

757
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:49.840
So right right, Well, before we go, anything you want

758
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:52.039
to add and then of course tell people where to

759
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:56.199
find you and like plug your things again always sure.

760
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:58.760
No, I mean I'm just going to say thanks for

761
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:01.239
having this is so much fun. Love to this again.

762
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:02.880
We'd love to have you in the Horror host support

763
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:07.400
group podcast. Test Win and I just want to say,

764
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.559
you know, make sure that to the listeners that you're

765
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:16.719
supporting these podcasts like follow share. You know, I'd love

766
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:18.199
it if you can pick up my book no one's

767
00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:20.280
see you. Take your soul away flash to tie the

768
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:21.840
cover again because it's giving.

769
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.639
Yes, look at that cover, look at her love it.

770
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:27.880
I am going to put the link in the show notes,

771
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:29.840
and then any links you give me on where to

772
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:32.039
find you as well, that'll all be in the show notes.

773
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:34.679
And everyone just make sure you first buy the book

774
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:37.400
and then also follow Amanda Everywhere and her podcast.

775
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:40.320
Yes, you can find me everywhere at Amanda bee Weaver.

776
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:48.159
That's my handle on TikTok, Instagram, Blue Sky Threads YouTube

777
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:52.039
which can revive my YouTube channel, and then horror host

778
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:57.320
support group host spelled at aux. Check our instagram and

779
00:41:57.360 --> 00:41:58.800
if you want to join the book club, if you

780
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:01.480
just click the link in our instagram, go to our

781
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:02.719
discord and you're there.

782
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:12.000
I'm gonna go join right now, All right, perfect and

783
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:17.199
everyone else, Oh wait, no, I'm forgetting I guess. Spooky recommendations,

784
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:18.840
did you have one?

785
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:22.400
Sure? Well, this Curse House was probably my first one.

786
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:25.599
I'll say from I mean that people should.

787
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:27.920
Oh my god, from From I was obsessed.

788
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:31.480
Oh what do you if if you're not watching from

789
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:32.719
what are you doing? Where?

790
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:33.920
Even are you? Yes?

791
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.280
So good? And then Interview with a Vampire is also

792
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:38.840
if you are a vampire lover.

793
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:39.480
I need to watch that.

794
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:44.360
Still the Vampire is my top recommendation. I love that show,

795
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:46.159
so check it out.

796
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:50.239
And then do I have speaker recommendations? You know, I

797
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:53.480
had one and then I I forgot it. But you

798
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:57.880
know what your book let's all just get that. I

799
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:00.280
haven't read it. Every recommendation I saw a review use

800
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:04.320
Rabian reviews all like, well, I think I saw the

801
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:06.320
star ratings. If people look at those, I am like,

802
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:09.079
I'm wary of those because sometimes people are like, I

803
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:11.599
didn't connect with this person just because it's not like

804
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:13.920
a white character, and then they'll like so I never

805
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.840
like look at those. But honestly, even the reviews are great,

806
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:20.239
but again just based off the description, like I know

807
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:23.000
I'm gonna like it, so can wait to read it.

808
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:25.119
But yeah, thank you so much for joining. This was

809
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:27.559
so fun. I'm gonna go check out the podcast and

810
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:30.559
join your book club as well. And yeah, thank you.

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want to do all that, that's fine too. You can

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