Aug. 23, 2024

Vampires of El Norte Book Club

Vampires of El Norte Book Club

Vampires of El Norte is a 2023 supernatural western novel by Isabel Cañas that takes place in 1840s Mexico during the Mexican–American War. The story follows two young lovers, Nena and Néstor, whose romance is threatened by vampires, tensions with...

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Vampires of El Norte is a 2023 supernatural western novel by Isabel Cañas that takes place in 1840s Mexico during the Mexican–American War. The story follows two young lovers, Nena and Néstor, whose romance is threatened by vampires, tensions with Anglo settlers, and a war.

Carmen and Cristina recap the book first and then answer the book club discussion questions. The next book club book will be Piñata by Leopold Gout.

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Hi, this is Christina and Carmen and this is another

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episode of Spooky Tales. No, no, it's another episode of

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the Spooky Taels book Club. Finally, it's been a while.

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We did specify that it's a book club for busy people,

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even though I devoured this book back in February of

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this year. February, yeah, fabo, and it is now agosto.

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Yes, it took me months. Yeah. Yeah.

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Also when I released this, I think it's going to

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be our birthday week.

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Really, oh yeah, because there's like a two in between.

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We're yeah, we're a little head on schedule, so we

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are for this for once, we're ahead of schedule. So

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this comes out Fridays of the twenty third. Oh okay, Thursday,

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it's the twenty second.

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Is our birthday?

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The next day comes out? Should we sing the song

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las Man Yanni?

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You're right, we should it. You're right.

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Okay, No, you're right, you're right. We're not gonna see,

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but yeah, happy birthday to us. I'm sure we had

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a lot of fun.

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We are the big thirty this year. Yeah, sure, we'll

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go with that.

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I'm sure we had a blast because I would have

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visited you, right, I'm already looking forward to the next

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time we see each other at this point. Yes, yeah,

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so we'll see. We'll see how that goes. We're gonna

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have a little barbecue at Carmen's house. Yeah, so I'm

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sure it was great. All right, So let's get started

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with the episode where we are talked about The Vampires

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of El Norte, which was our book club book for

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months and months and months. It is written by Isabel Kaanas,

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who we love. Yes, we did the SCND already with

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Aiden and that was so much fun. It was, and

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so the way these episodes were because at first we

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give a non spoiler summary that is the one on

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the book, the back of the book. Then we get

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into a recap of the book, and throughout that just

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kind of highlighting parts we liked, what we like, you know,

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if you have any highlighted notes of like, oh the

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writing here was amazing, you know, things like that. Then

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at the end of the recap we have a the

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discussion portion of the book club episode where we have questions.

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And luckily this book came with questions already that exist,

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so that's fun. I did not look at the questions beforehand,

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so all these my answers are going to be like

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on the spot, I didn't look at the questions either.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, and then I have some answers from listeners. Okay,

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answer these questions. Yeah, so that'll be fun. And I'm

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also going to ask you who you casted as the movie?

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Who you so, oh my god, I don't remember anyone ever.

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But these are okay, they're like youngers I have to

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think of, like younger actors.

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Yeah, we'll do that at the end. Though.

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Let's let's go all right, so here is the summary. Wait,

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but we should do it after this summary because we're

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going to be talking.

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About them and I feel like we are going to

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be picturing them.

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Okay, so here's the like non spoiler spoiler free summary

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that just you know it's from the book. So vampires

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and vachedos face off on the Texas Mexico border in

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the supernatural western from the author of the Ascienda. As

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the daughter of a rancher in eighteen forties Mexico, Nena

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knows a thing or two about monsters. Her home has

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been long threatened by tensions with Anglo settlers from the north,

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but something more sinister lurks near the ranch at night,

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something that drains men of their blood and leaves them

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for dead, something that once attacked Nena nine years ago.

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Believing Nena dead, Nestor has been on the run from

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his grief ever since, moving ranch to ranch, working as

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a vacuero. But no amount of drink can dispel the

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night terrors of sharp teeth, no woman can erase his

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childhoods sweetheart from his mind. When the United States attacks

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Mexico in eighteen forty six, the two are brought abruptly

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together on the road to war, Nena as a curandera,

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a healer, striving to prove her worth to her father

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so that he does not marry her off to a stranger,

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and Nestor a member of the auxiliary cavalry of franchiers

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and vaccaros.

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But the shock of their.

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Reunion and then ask rage and nest out for seemingly

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abandoning her long ago. It's quickly overshadowed by the appearance

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of a nightmare made flesh, and Unless and Then and

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Nesto to work together through their past and face the

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future together, neither will survive to see the dawn.

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Beautiful stuff, Yes, yes, okay, So who did you cast

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in your mind.

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Okay, So because they're like on the younger and they're like,

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are they eighteen or in their twenties?

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I don't remember early.

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Twenties, like they're like twenty three, twenty two, okay, early twenties. Yeah,

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I feel like I only know so many young actors,

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early twenties actors, you can say, like a younger version

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of someone else too, I know, but I like don't

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remember any actors ever. I cerdainly forgot all the actors

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I've ever seen. Okay, the only youngish Latina actress on

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my head right now is the girl that played Dora,

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but like she's a little bit older.

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Now, who is that? Even? Let me see?

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Hold on, I forgot her name. I want to see

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it's beel something. Okay, she's twenty three, Okay, okay, I

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could see it. Yeah, we'll put a picture here. Well,

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that's why I was picturing just now. I didn't think

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about this while I was reading it. Yeah, I see it, okay, okay, yes, yeah, yeah,

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all right, we'll go with that. Because I also didn't

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have anyone really that in mind. What about for Nestor, Well,

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I again only know so many actors, so I was thinking,

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like a younger or the guy who the you're taking

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away too long to say this, Oh my god, I'm sorry.

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See this is how I know you have ADHD. Anyone

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would have said that that was taking a normal amount

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of time.

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That was not a normal amount of time.

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Okay, well, since you're still thinking of it, I kind

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of pictured the guy who is on my block, the

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cute one. I was thinking this guy, hold on, he's

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from the movie Blue Beetle. Oh oh, I've seen him

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for I think my casting.

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Is better, you know what.

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Yeah, let's go with that. Okay, my casting winds all right,

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you're yeah, you're casting. You're better at this, obviously, And

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this is why I'm not a caster. You know, I

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would just cast everyone in the in the wrong roles,

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right right. Let us know who you thought of as well,

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because I love to know what people pictured me too

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in their mind's eye, you know. I guess some people

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don't do this, but I'm reading and it's a movie

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in my head full on me sometimes not all the time, me,

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only in like the very like actioning parts, like like

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that fight at the end. Yeah, I was picturing that,

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all right. Well, yeah, let's start off with the recap. Then,

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so right off the bat, the first thing I want

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to point out is that the book follows two perspectives,

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much like the SCNA, where in the SCNDA we have

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the two main characters, right, you know, we switch back

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and forth.

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Padre andreas we love and I already forgot her name

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because I love to, because we have internal.

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It's because because I loved mother than this I met

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loved him. If you you were, just if you could

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just admit.

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It, then we can move on.

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I don't know, Okay, fine, fine, okay, fine, okay, I

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wanted to hear. I don't remember her name either, because

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I also loved him and was rooting for him the

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whole time, and I was mad that they didn't end

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up together. Yeah, so just like that, we have two perspectives.

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We have Nana and nesto it. And also I love

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the alteratation name.

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Yeah me too.

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It wasn't too much for me. No, I love it.

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I love it. I would love to meet an old

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couple like that, and I would that's so cute. Okay,

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I was gonna say, but in real.

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Life, how do you feel about it? I always think

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it's weird. No, I love it.

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Oh, okay, what about our names. Okay, see, and we're twins,

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but I'm talking about it if we were apparently together,

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So you know, I could see why Stephanie thought that.

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I don't necessarily agree. I think maybe you're like brother

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and sister that I could see, But maybe I just

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feel like that.

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Because we're so right now. Yeah, you never know.

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I feel like we had to be siblings all throughout

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time and all through and every every single Yeah.

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I had to say. That would be very fun, wouldn't it.

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Maybe even cousins. I don't know.

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Okay, whatever, let's move on. It's weird when it's not siblings. Actually, yeah,

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siblings all all out, even not only twins, just siblings

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in general. That's fine. Elevation names, okay, but a couple

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the three draw the line. That's where you draw the line.

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Okay.

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So you don't like Nana Nestory in real life. In

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the book, I like it because also that's her nickname.

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That's not her real name. That's true, that's true. Her

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real name is Magdalena, right in real.

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Life, I don't like it.

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I don't like it all right, So, yeah, we have

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each of their perspectives. And the book starts out with

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Nana in eighteen thirty seven when they are both thirteen.

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So you know, right away we learn about her home

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and Los a Cuelos, we learned about Nestor. We learned

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that she's the daughter of anessen Dado and obviously this

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comes with like the importance of that role where the

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essendalo is the person in charge of the whole les

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in that and she is the daughter of the ass

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and that so her and Nessota are not in the

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same plane field level, right, Yes, it's.

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A more broo right away.

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Oh yes, we love. We didn't never say that word,

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right am. It's because when I say a fast I

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don't emphasize the middle. I just say all in one,

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you say, like bro wido. Yes that's what he said. Girls, Okay,

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so that's why I pointed it out after, like I

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can't just ignore because you know. Yeah, yeah, so, yes,

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she doesn't know it yet, but Nesto is the love

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of her life. I think at this point, at this age,

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he knows it, you know, but she does not. Yeah,

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she's like, that's my really good friend that I cannot

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live with that we're together to twenty four seven, and

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I think.

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About it all the time. But we're just friends.

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Yeah, we've practiced kissine, but not anything serious. And he's like,

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I am going to buy basil land for us to

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live on forever together. So right away he's more serious

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about this and she just she doesn't know it, but

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she is too.

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Yeah.

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So he's the son of a ranchero, so a worker

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on the SCN that. So we know that they cannot

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be together because of these you know, differences. We also

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get the sense that there's something you know, going down,

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because there's talk of like the Anglows, but it's still.

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All very like service level. There's nothing going on yet.

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Yeah, Ala, which is Nestor's aguela, but everyone calls tells

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them scary stories about El Cuco, which is like a

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coco or cucui.

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Right, really quick? Did you love the beginning and inscription?

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I don't know what you call it? Yeah? Should we

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read it? Yes? I love that. Yeah? Who didn't hear that?

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Right as a child, Like I've said before on the podcast,

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because we've talked Aboutkukui or goco. But Babby, our father

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loves singing that to my children. Yeah, and ever since

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they are little, teeny tiny babies, they just laugh. He's

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like Comera and then he fake eats them and they're like, oh,

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it's it's so fun, and I do that to them.

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They love the spookiness. They are little spooky children and

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they have to be. There's no other way, right, So yeah,

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I like that that it's highlighted in there that so

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everyone can see it, because maybe not everyone knows that

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little nursery rhyme, but basically you have to sleep whether

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the big man's going to come eat you, right, And

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that is a loving rhyming song that we sing to

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our babies and what I tells them about these stories.

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And then we also learned Nana's older brother is of

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marrying age. They're talking about who he's you know, Gonnaharry.

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Because this is all arranged. It's all like a political

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alliances at this point between like you know, the wealthy essandallos.

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They can't just marry anyone. Nana, she will be facing

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a similar feature. She's just not old enough yet. She's

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only thirteen. Yeah, so she knows what lies ahead.

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I don't think at this point her and Nestor want

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to believe it or you know, address it.

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They're in denial about it.

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Yeah, and they can be they're thirteen still, but it's

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getting into an age where they they're starting to be

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separated from their family members, Like you can't spend that

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much time with necessarily more you. You know, you have

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to act this way you And Nana doesn't understand. She's

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like why why, And so they sneak away together at night.

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Nesto has this plan that he's gonna find gold and

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build a house for them near Losouelos, and it's going

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to be his own land and they're going to be

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together and you know this is going to be their land.

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But they're going to build their house.

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But he needs gold, and there's these stories and legends

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of gold in somewhere like in this land that they

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have to dig up. And this is a real legend

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that's all all over Latin America where you can find gold.

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Sometimes there's like, oh, if you see Boss of Fire here,

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that's where the gold is. But the legends are scarier

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because it's like you have to dig the gold well,

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like when we're the like telling you I saw like

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a dead person's next to you, telling you like dig digg,

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Like that's horrifying, and all the stories and with no

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one finding the gold and the person turns like loses

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their mind before they finish the game. Yeah, horrifying, although

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iould I would try it. So, yeah, Nestor, you know,

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he wants to find some of this gold, and he

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finds a spot where he thinks this is where the

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gold is, like I saw like a glimpse of it

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or something like a sign. Doesn't he seem like a

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glittering like a shiny thing. That's why he thinks it's there.

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But we learned later it's not what he thought he saw. Yeah, yeah,

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and we learned right away. Yeah, like in the next

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sentence started fast. Yeah, so I could not believe it

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when I was reading at first page, second page, third Yeah.

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So yeah, nest starts sticking because he wants gold so

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they can have a home together, and she doesn't know it,

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but she's just there because they're always finding time to

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be together, so he's digging away. They're talking about never

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leaving each other and that they're always going to be

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by each other's side.

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Then out of nowhere, Nana starts feeling a little uneasy.

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She starts telling nest Od maybe we should head back,

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but she doesn't get to finish the sentence. She says,

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I think, And then suddenly something pouncess on her and

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seeks sinks its teeth into her. And this is chapter one, yeah,

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because we start out with her perspective and so then

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she gets attacked and all they say really is like

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a flash of teeth in the darkness. And then we

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go to Nestor's perspective, and it starts out with him like,

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you know, running towards Nana, trying to figure out what

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happened to her.

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Oh, this is what I wanted this.

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I thought this was like, it just shows how important

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Nana was to him. So after she gets attacked and

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he's running towards her to try and like stop this creature.

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Nana was his home, the one thing on earth more

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precious to him than his own life. Whatever that creature was,

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it did not matter. The only thing that mattered was

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getting it away from her. Beautiful, beautiful, And yeah, so

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he's like he starts fighting this thing, no matter how

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scared he is, because this is the thing they had

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not seen before, some sort of evil, disgusting creature, and

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he is fighting it to try and save Nana, and

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he does eventually, you know, get it away. So he

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does manage to. I think he uses like a shovel

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to like chop its head off or something. Eventually he

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does manage to you know, kill it, but it already

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seems like it's too late. Like Nena is life less. Yeah,

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seems lifeless. I almost cried when he was like Nita, Yeah,

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she's limp, unconscious in her neck looks like it's in

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terrible shape. So he carries her all the way back

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to Los a Cuellos, to La Casa Major, which is

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her house. He pounds on the door, screaming for help

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and don't Feliciano. Her father answers the door. He brings

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her inside and sets her on the table, and Nana

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is cold, lifeless, like, she looks dead. And her father

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immediately turns to Nestod points at him and just yells,

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boy like such a my horrifying like thing to be

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addressed angrily, you know, amazing. Yeah, And so Nestod, you know,

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having lost his bff. Yes it's his half orange, he

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backs away and he books it. He just he runs,

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He runs and runs, and he does not looked back.

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He runs west and just yeah, he's gone. I don't

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blame him, I don't blame him, right, because he was

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going to be blamed for this.

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Yeah, and who would believe that a creature attacked her? Right?

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So then we jump nine years, and if you didn't

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read the summary of the book beforehand, you also would

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have thought she was dead. But no, you know, we

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know she's alive. So we jump forward nine years. He's

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now twenty two and he is a vacchtto. But he's

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not like just any vaccio. He's a freelance vakhetto. He

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belongs to no one, no contractual obligations for Nesto, and

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so he goes from ascienda to acienda for work. He's

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also an alcoholic and a womanizer. So a typical Mexican man, right, right,

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nothing different about him. No, not in the sense that

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he's like purposely looking for a woman to her, but

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he's trying to feel a void. He you know, he

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still thinks about Nana, that was the love of his life,

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and so he's just trying to fill a void. So

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there's one ascienda widow that he hooks up, hooks up

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with more often than everyone else, every other woman. He

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stays with her, he does work for her, and then

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he also has one friend named Meto and he is

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not Mexican.

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I thought he was half. For a second, I thought

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he was full white. And he married a Mexican woman,

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you know, like his mom or dad, like one of

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them is right. Okay, I take that back.

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He's half Mexican half right, But he was raised in

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like the US side, basically like not Mexico. He wasn't

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raised in Mexico. No, I don't think so. But he

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knows Spanish, he learned Spanish. Yeah, And now Nestor, he

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lives for one thing and one thing only. He is

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working toward the goal of having enough money to own

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his own land that is his So this is the

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only thing that he lives for. The one thing that

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he lived for before is gone. Yeah, as far as

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he knows, She's really not. Because then we go to Nna,

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who's as fully alive, yeah, fully alive, just you know,

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living her life in Los Uelos. She has been training

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with Abuela to become a curandera, a healer. When we

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go back to her, we see that she's called to

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help someone that's suffering from susto, a sickness or ailment

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that is, you're sick from fright, like you are so

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scared that you become sick. So she has to call

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his spirit back, and I just love how that's done

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in the book, Like she has to know their real

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name and she has to be like, come back to us,

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come back to us, and I just I love the

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way they did that. And she's successful, she's clearly good

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at healing, but Abila and throughout the book tells her

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like something is hotly in her back, something where she's

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not able to like fully whenever her cheese is blocked

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like an avatar. Yeah, exactly like that, and we know

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now that it's because of Nesto, but she doesn't know that.

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Right then, we learned that Susto is going around Los

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Juelos and the nearby siendas. It's a sousto epidemic, Susto pandemic,

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Susto demic, souths deemic. No, okay, yeah, it's something that

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is affecting the Vaccaros frequently, but we don't know why. Okay, sorry,

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you're just you're gonna hear my children.

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I'm sorry.

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So the man that she healed his name as Ignacio,

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and he seems to have a similar scard to hers,

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and she starts wondering about what happened to her because

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she doesn't know, She has no idea, She doesn't remember

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the attack at all. Nobody tells her like you almost died,

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you came back like yeah, she doesn't like remember the

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incident or something.

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Yeah.

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And also no one talks about it. Yeah, but I'm

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not surprised. That's a very very Mexican thing to do.

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I think shove it under the rug, yeah, And they're like, oh,

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you just you have to move past it. You can't

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be stuck in the past. We also learned that the

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Anglos or the Yankees have declared that everything from the

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Nueces to the Rio Bravo is there. And in case

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anyone didn't figure it out, at this point, this is

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the Mexican American War. The Texans are like, this is

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all ours, This like Mexico, this is takes It's exactly

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like that. That's actually how they declared war. No, and

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we I think, no, now that this war had a

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lot to do with, you know, a lot of different things.

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So the US invaded Mexico in eighteen forty six. And

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if there's one thing Isabel is going to do is

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set her novel during historic event and then teach us

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a little bit about it. I love love, love historical

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fiction me too, and I love that it's not like

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the main, right, It's not like the main Like the

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John is not historical fiction. The genre, I guess it's horror,

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but it's like a horror romance historical fiction. Yes, yes,

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and we're not We're not talking about like, you know,

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the president of Mexico during this time. We're just talking

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about these two young adults and this is going on

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around them and affecting their lives. Yeah, her and Silvia,

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I both do this experts at this. Yes, Okay, So

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the lands Na's family's land is being threatened. But also

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this I think this goes without saying, but like to

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call it their land, it's also it wasn't it wasn't

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their land to begin with, its indigenous land, right, so

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you know that's another like hola layer. Yeah, so their

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land is being threatened as well as the nearby lands

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of other Acienda has branches, including where Nestor and Beto

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currently find themselves. And so he's worried about his home

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and his family, and he decides to travel back to

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Los Alos, and Beto, his other BFF, goes with him

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because he has family in Matamoros, which is not that

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far from there.

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So they write off, and as.

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He's going, Nestor thinks about all the people he's left behind,

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the people that he run away from. And when they

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get to Los Cuelos, he sees his family, but then

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he sees someone else, someone who looks so familiar, someone

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who he thought was dead for nine years. Imagine thinking that,

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I'm just like, yeah, back then, there's no way of knowing, right,

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Like he saw her dead, yeah, and then here he

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is nine years later and she's very much alive, talking

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to like one of his cousins or something.

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Yeah, He's like, what the fuck?

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Yes, And this is the one thing he has built

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his new life upon, the emptiness in his life. His

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identity is built on this. So now he's like questioning, like,

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who even am I? What have I done for the

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past what? Nine years?

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Nine years? Yeah?

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Like what did he even run away for? He built

453
00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:53.519
his life around escaping her death and there she was breathing,

454
00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:58.839
as we speak, very much not dead. So then we

455
00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:02.000
go to NNA, And when we switched from that chapter

456
00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:04.680
of Nestor to NNA, it starts a little before Nestor's

457
00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:08.039
arrival she's worried about the Yankees, what's gonna happen, not

458
00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:10.680
to mention her parents talking about marrying her off to

459
00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:13.240
some Assendelo's son that she doesn't even know. So she's

460
00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:15.839
sitting there knitting all like angry, and then she sees

461
00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:20.079
Nestalk and she's like, what the fuck okay, because she's

462
00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:24.200
mad at him, very because she doesn't know why he left.

463
00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:28.519
She doesn't remember that she almost died, so she doesn't

464
00:22:28.519 --> 00:22:31.759
even like, she doesn't make the connection that he might

465
00:22:31.799 --> 00:22:35.400
think she's dead and he might be escaping, you know that.

466
00:22:35.559 --> 00:22:38.559
Like to her, he just up and left with no explanation,

467
00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:41.759
no reason, nothing, after literally saying no, We're never I'm

468
00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:43.440
never going to leave you, yeah, like because that's what

469
00:22:43.440 --> 00:22:45.480
they were talking about before she got attacked. So she

470
00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:48.720
remembers being attacked, but she doesn't remember like being basically

471
00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:50.000
dead and then coming.

472
00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:50.799
Back to life or whatever.

473
00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:54.559
Like she vaguely, very vaguely remembers that the attack happened,

474
00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:57.640
that she knows something happened to her, and then after

475
00:22:57.680 --> 00:23:00.720
that happened, Nestor is not there anymore either, but she

476
00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:03.359
doesn't know, like she was bitten in the neck or

477
00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:05.880
she it was a creature that they didn't like, Like

478
00:23:05.960 --> 00:23:08.720
she like blocked out what it looked like. So, yeah,

479
00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:11.599
there's the Bessie that abandoned.

480
00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:14.279
Her nine years ago. Yep, just shows up out of nowhere.

481
00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:16.240
She sees him, and then she thinks back and we

482
00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:19.559
get like a little flashback of like younger Nana asking

483
00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:21.599
like is that letter from Nestlo And I'm like, oh

484
00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:24.160
my god, that's so sad. Can you just picture her? Yeah,

485
00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:27.119
that was sad, continuous like is that letter? Like, no,

486
00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:29.480
shut the fuck up, there's no letters from Nestlood, Like

487
00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:33.200
I feel bad for her. Yeah, oh so yeah, it's sad.

488
00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:35.359
It's very sad throughout the book. I was like, oh

489
00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:38.079
my god, forgive him already. But I understand also like

490
00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:42.799
why she couldn't right, Yeah, same. So Neslud walks up

491
00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:45.000
to her and asks if he can have a word

492
00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:47.240
with her whoever sitting next to her. She's like, tell him,

493
00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:50.319
I've gone to bed already. She's like right in front

494
00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:50.559
of him.

495
00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:51.519
I love it.

496
00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:53.400
I don't remember if it's like a cousin of hers.

497
00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:56.000
I think it's her cousin. She doesn't hang out with

498
00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:59.480
his cousins because they're not the same on the same level.

499
00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:01.680
Yeah, yeah, so they can't hang out, right.

500
00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:04.440
She is close with everyone or whatever, you know, Like

501
00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:07.319
she's not rude, She's like has relationships with everyone on

502
00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:10.160
us in that but like as far as like now

503
00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:11.960
with people her family.

504
00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:13.160
Yeah, you're right.

505
00:24:13.519 --> 00:24:15.480
So she refuses to see Nestor, and then we go

506
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.839
back to Nestor's perspective. He's in his family's home drinking

507
00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:20.759
and a Willa walks up to him and asks, like,

508
00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:22.720
you know, what's wrong, and he just says, Nina, she

509
00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:25.079
figures that, and then she asks him if Nana was

510
00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:27.680
angry to see him. He tells her like she died.

511
00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:30.519
I carried her to like a Mayo and she had died.

512
00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:33.400
And then finally all tells him that on that night

513
00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:35.880
she was called to Le Mayo and that Nana had

514
00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:39.359
been poisoned by whatever bit her and she saved Nna.

515
00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:41.799
Then she says, like, you know what happened, Like what

516
00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:43.880
happened on that night? He says he doesn't know that

517
00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:48.119
it was too dark to see what was her. Yeah,

518
00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:50.640
but he at the same time, like he tells her that,

519
00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:53.279
but in his mind to himself, he's like he cannot

520
00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:54.799
accept what that was right.

521
00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:55.839
That's too scary.

522
00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:59.000
Yeah, lead that out. It was a monster. Yeah, so

523
00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:01.720
he you know, he denies. That's the way to live.

524
00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:04.119
The truth is scary. Deny it, deny it, deny.

525
00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:07.359
Yeah, the truth is scary. You don't have to accept it, No,

526
00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:10.960
of course not. And then we go to Nana. She's fuming.

527
00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:13.960
She's like, how dare he try to talk to me?

528
00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:16.160
And she's like angry and she drests off to sleep

529
00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:19.160
and she is dreaming of being angry at Thistle or something.

530
00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:20.400
I don't know what she's dreaming about.

531
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:22.759
And then she's woken up by a scream and it's

532
00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:25.880
her younger sister and her younger sisters crying about something

533
00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:28.759
in her dream that has no eyes and many teeth.

534
00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:32.279
Yeah. So then you know it's the next day.

535
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:35.440
There's a meeting between all the Vakeetos and the nearby ranchos.

536
00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:38.359
They're making plans to defend their land. Mexico has not

537
00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:42.400
sent enough troops because they're busy, like fighting elsewhere. Yeah,

538
00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:44.839
so the Yankees are closing in on them, and they

539
00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:46.559
have to like get together some.

540
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:49.480
Sort of soldiers. They have to get together, like a unit,

541
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:50.960
you know, a militia yes.

542
00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:54.799
So there's also in this meeting there's rumors of Yankees

543
00:25:54.839 --> 00:25:58.119
having dogs that they set loose on the ranchos that

544
00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:00.720
they've taken over, and that it's this like horrible new

545
00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:02.640
weapon and at the time we don't know what it is.

546
00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:05.720
Later we learn terrifying. Yes.

547
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:10.839
So during this meeting, Nana proposes to accompany the militia,

548
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:13.559
the battalion, and at first her father refuses. The truth

549
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:15.759
is is that they need her. They need a kurandera

550
00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:18.079
I will I cannot go with him. She's she's old,

551
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:21.240
and Susto has been plaguing in the region like they

552
00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:23.440
know something is out there, they don't know what, and

553
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.160
so they're gonna need her. Plus curanderas they're not only

554
00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:29.839
folk healers who heal these like spiritual.

555
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:32.599
Like she's basically trained like in first aid. Yeah. Yeah,

556
00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:33.599
so she's she's a medic.

557
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:36.480
And so the deal is that, yeah, she can go,

558
00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:38.920
but when she returns, she has to marry the person

559
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:42.240
of her father's choosing, and Nana agrees to this because

560
00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:45.359
you know, she wants to prove her worth to her

561
00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:46.039
family too.

562
00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:46.960
So they go off.

563
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:49.279
Nesar goes too because they know how good of a

564
00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:51.440
shot he is, and I mean he's a good baghetto.

565
00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:53.720
You know, he's the best vacqutto out there. Yeah, he

566
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:56.400
really is. And Beto goes too, because he goes where

567
00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:58.880
his best. He goes that too. But also they're heading

568
00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:02.599
towards Matamoros. Yes, also that and that's where his family rites.

569
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:04.000
But he's right or died too.

570
00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:04.279
Yeah.

571
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:07.319
So during the journey, Nestor tries to talk to Nana.

572
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:09.839
She refuses. We have a lot of that, a lot.

573
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:13.960
At some point you're like, oh my god, forgive him. Yeah,

574
00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:16.839
I was, Yeah, we get it, you know, we get it.

575
00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:17.519
Part of it.

576
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:20.759
Eventually she refuses to talk to him at all because

577
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:23.480
at some points there's little conversations here and there she

578
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:28.839
like overhears Bethol talking about Nestor like single life and

579
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:30.400
his adventures.

580
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:32.359
As a you know, muheego and then that so she's like,

581
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:32.960
fuck this shit.

582
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:35.200
I like tried to give him the grace or whatever,

583
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:39.720
like to start like a friendship a conversation, and then

584
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:41.839
he's been out there hole in this whole time.

585
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:44.000
So then she decides to like, yeah, give him the

586
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:44.720
silent treatment.

587
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:46.960
Yeah, And so at that point, Betho is the person

588
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:49.799
who's going to guard her, Not Nestloda anymore. That's what

589
00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:52.920
she decides, and so they go towards the river or something,

590
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:55.839
and when her and Betho walk away, Nestor and some

591
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:58.680
other men come across some maled animal and it's like

592
00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:03.119
something they've never seen before, like it's been sucked dead.

593
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:06.400
They're like, what did this? And there's a vacto. His

594
00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:09.960
name is Old Juan, and I just love Old Juan.

595
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:12.839
There has to be a younger, yeah, younger Kuan in

596
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:15.680
the crowd. So Old Huan tells them that animals did

597
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:17.759
not do this. It was the work of spirits, and

598
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:20.000
some of the men laugh and walk away, and then

599
00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:23.200
Nestor is like contemplating what he said, because he has

600
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:26.680
seen things, right, And so then Old Huan tells them

601
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:29.839
you've seen them, haven't you? And he can tell on

602
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:34.240
his eyes yeah, that line. It's like confirming the truth

603
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:37.160
that Nessor does now want to accept. There is something

604
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:39.200
out there and he has seen them and this is

605
00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:42.279
what did this to this animal. And Old Juan tells

606
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:44.480
Nesor that he was born in Galla Llahara. And you know,

607
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:49.559
anytime you read Galla, shout outa yes, we love Gallalada.

608
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:52.559
So he's he's from Guallalahara and it's different up there.

609
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:56.000
There's no monsters like there is in this part. And

610
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:58.279
you know what, that's not true, because there is a vampire. Okay,

611
00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:00.200
it's there's a whole.

612
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.359
Tree for it. Was he around in this time though? Yeah, okay,

613
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:03.799
never mind.

614
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.920
Then the legend already existed, right, So these parts there's

615
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:11.359
monsters here, and that's what Old Kwan tells Nestor. And

616
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:14.599
Estor then thinks back to all the stories of witches

617
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:18.400
and creatures that Abuela has shared and just like the

618
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:22.039
perfect moment, there's a scream. He runs towards the river bank,

619
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:27.279
realizing that Beto is the one who scrummed the scream.

620
00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:30.599
He's scrumped. Yeah, he was scared. He's been attacked. In

621
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:33.480
a serious note mode, he was he was being attacked. No,

622
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:34.920
but seriously, he was.

623
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:39.799
He was being attacked. Something attacked him. Yeah.

624
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:42.279
So Nestor, you know, goes to him, drags him to

625
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:45.000
the camp. Nana begins to work on him, calling him

626
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:46.519
back like she did with Ignacio.

627
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.160
She needs his real name, so Nestor needs to be there.

628
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:52.240
But then she's at the same time she's mad at him.

629
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.920
M she doesn't want him there, but he needs to

630
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:55.960
be there and we love this. Yeah.

631
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:58.319
And so when when he comes to, she asks him

632
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:01.920
if if he remembered anything, remember anything, and he doesn't.

633
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:04.160
So she goes back to her tent, and you know,

634
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:06.960
she's thinking about all the stuff Nestor said about how

635
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.799
he thought she was dead, and those were the same

636
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:14.359
words Ignacio's wife said when he was brought back back

637
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:15.279
in Nosoquelos.

638
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:17.599
So she's doing a little bit of putting two and

639
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:18.319
two together.

640
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:21.559
Yeah, like if he was almost dead and if he

641
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:23.799
thought I was almost dead, then the same thing must

642
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:27.640
have attacked us, just like Beto right now. Also, is

643
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:30.319
it already at this point that she feels like in

644
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:34.119
her neck a little like tingly when they're nearby. Oh yeah,

645
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:36.880
I forgot to mention that. So she's already like you

646
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:40.720
know because also because of that making connecting these things. Yes, yes,

647
00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:43.039
thank you for putting that out, because I completely ignore that.

648
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:44.839
I got you. So then the group moves on.

649
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:47.319
They crossed the Rio Brabo and this is where they

650
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:52.599
are attacked by the Yankees, the Whites, the Anglos, the settlers.

651
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:57.000
So they're attacked everyone is separated. It's chaos and Nna.

652
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.920
Here's her brother yelling run run if there's another Coudra Susana.

653
00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:04.519
She literally sees Susana shot in front of her. Terrible.

654
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:09.720
The description graphic, Yeah, horrible. There's bullets everywhere. Two Yankees

655
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:13.039
are about to approach Nina, and who approaches our hero

656
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.599
and so he saves her. They ride away together and

657
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:21.599
as they're writing away, they see a creature eating a

658
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:23.640
soldier and they're like, what the fuck is that? Oh

659
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:26.799
my god, I can't even like, I was picturing this

660
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:29.680
in my head and it was terrifying, you know what

661
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:32.880
I was picturing. Sorry to go back to she who

662
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:36.599
must not be named, but Harry Potter. Oh, and Voldemort's

663
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:40.119
in the forest and then the Forbidden Forests, like on

664
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:42.559
top of that unicorn and they see him for the

665
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:45.920
first time and they're like shook ooh yeah, Like, I

666
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.960
think it's like the third movie whatever. It doesn't matter

667
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:50.559
which one it was, but I think it was not

668
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:51.039
the Throne.

669
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:52.119
I think it was suited than that.

670
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:56.279
Really second, I'm pretty sure maybe even the first one. Okay, whatever,

671
00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:59.960
it really it does not matter. Point is that is

672
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:02.200
that's what I pictured and can you just imagine you're

673
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:07.200
running away from this gunfight, something terrible, violent, and then

674
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.599
you see this like, no, I.

675
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:11.319
Would throw up. I would just die right then and

676
00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:13.880
there it would be over. Yeah, my fallover. Let it

677
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:17.200
get me here, I am yep.

678
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:19.799
He instructs her to keep going and she's like, I

679
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:22.039
can't leave you. He's like, no, go and he kills

680
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:24.160
the creature. He catches up to Nana and then they

681
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:26.640
have to cross this deep part of the river. Nana's afraid,

682
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:28.920
but Nestor gets her through it, and then we just

683
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:31.200
go through their journey back to Los Sauelas together.

684
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:33.880
They're fighting, they're almost making up. Then there's more fighting.

685
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:36.359
I love it. Was it too much for you? No?

686
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:37.519
I liked it? Okay.

687
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.440
Then they finally have an actual conversation about what happened

688
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:42.720
on the night she was attacked. Then there's more adorable

689
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:45.559
moments like him teaching her to shoot.

690
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:46.440
That was so cute.

691
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:49.240
Then there's one night they're taking shelter, like in a

692
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:50.119
cave or something.

693
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:50.720
I can't remember.

694
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:53.960
I took a cave, yeah, okay, And there's like at

695
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:56.559
first there's a yankee, like they think it's a Yankee,

696
00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:58.559
like He's like, whyzy by himself.

697
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:01.480
But then they realize it's a It's something so much worse.

698
00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:04.960
Like if you thought Yankee was bad, this is worse.

699
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:06.720
They don't name it a vampire yet, but that's what

700
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.279
these are, these creatures. They keep seeing their vampires, so

701
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:11.920
they realize that this is that's what this is, and

702
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:14.480
they fight this thing. Nana is her during this encounter,

703
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:16.799
but they fight it. They make it through and they

704
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:22.240
move on. Nana or not Nana, Nestor Nestor You've been

705
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.720
saying like English and Spanish. Oh my god, sorry forgive me.

706
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:29.519
It's hard to go back and forth. Yeah, yeah, especially

707
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:33.359
with names. Nestor burst her bubble about life, Soquelos, He's like,

708
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:35.240
it wasn't as good as you thought it was for

709
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:37.359
the rest of us, the rest of us peasants.

710
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:42.000
Your dad is a bitch. Yeah, he shows her. How

711
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:42.519
about her?

712
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:46.359
She is? Yeah, pretty much. She doesn't exactly say that,

713
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:48.119
but you might as well have. It's like a summary

714
00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:50.480
of it. Yeah, Like the vekehettos work hard, but they

715
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:52.680
live in hacalis while you get to live in your

716
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:56.119
fancy ass house. We're not even allowed to build a stone.

717
00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:56.720
House on this land.

718
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:59.359
Because it's not ours like we're working, we're doing all

719
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:02.960
the work, and your dat is not you're living off

720
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:03.799
of our work.

721
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:08.480
You're exploiting our labor. You capitalists, scum.

722
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:10.719
And they keep arguing when he's telling her this, and

723
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:13.119
then she tells him she wishes he never came back,

724
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.480
and then he's like, well, what would have been the alternative?

725
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:19.519
Be happy with the little measy time I would have

726
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:21.559
had with you, and then you would have been married

727
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:23.679
to some other rich man, Like come on.

728
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:27.280
And honestly, he's right, he's right. If he would have stayed,

729
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:28.400
that's what would have happened.

730
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:30.840
It would have never worked out between them, and yeah,

731
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:33.480
he would have again been exploited by his labor, you know.

732
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:37.320
So honestly, he was sad and everything, having a hard life,

733
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:40.440
but he was having an independent life. He is his

734
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:46.679
own boss. He is a freelance vakiro. So while they're

735
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:49.400
arguing about this, then they kiss and I was like, yes,

736
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:50.840
they're gonna be together, But then I was like, no,

737
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:53.440
they're not because of the argument they just had closey

738
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:55.599
thinking I knew they were going to be together. Yeah,

739
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.000
So Neslo rejects her. He's like, no, what's the point

740
00:34:58.039 --> 00:34:59.800
of this. Now we're going to enjoy the little time

741
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.400
we here. Then you're going to get back to Los Azuelos.

742
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:04.559
And it's the same thing. It's the same thing, like,

743
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:06.320
if you're going to be about it, be about it.

744
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:09.679
Don't just be about it for now, forever and ever.

745
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:11.880
It's what he wants. I don't blame him, I don't.

746
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:12.239
Yeah.

747
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.360
So they travel together after this, and they run into

748
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.199
a group of men and they tell these men that

749
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:18.960
their men and wife because they need a cover story.

750
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:21.400
They can't just be traveling together, yeah, especially her and

751
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.199
the daughter of Anessen Dado. So they gather around the

752
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:26.400
campfire with this group of men and Estor tells them

753
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:28.880
a story. And I love this part because he's basically

754
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:34.000
telling their story, yeah, from childhood up until Nana is attacked.

755
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:36.920
But he ends it drive differently, of course, because their

756
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:37.599
story is not over.

757
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:39.639
Their story. We're in the we're in the thick of it,

758
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:41.719
you know, it's in the making. Yeah.

759
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:44.159
So then at the end, the men asked him where

760
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.239
he heard the story, and ESA's like, oh, from some

761
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:48.760
vakeo somewhere, you know, you know. And then the man

762
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:51.480
is like, well, there's truth in every story because there's

763
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:55.320
beasts out here, like we see them. We saw them

764
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:58.679
near San Luis Potosi. And again more confirmation that whatever

765
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.159
these things they have encounters, they are real and they're

766
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:05.159
out there. Yeah, they're not imagining things. So they are

767
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.280
about to go to sleep, and he asks Nana what

768
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:09.719
she thought of his story, and she tells him that

769
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:13.079
she thought it was sad and then so cheesy but adorable.

770
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:14.760
He's like, you know, you can change the story if

771
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:17.840
you want. I was like, oh so cute.

772
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:18.360
Yeah.

773
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:20.559
She tells him she could marry a vacto if he's

774
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:23.239
the right one, like saying like, I could not marry

775
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:26.119
a rich as another my father's choosing, Like for the

776
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:27.079
right person, I would.

777
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:28.360
It doesn't matter who they are.

778
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:31.559
I would throw everything away from the right person, right, Yeah,

779
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:36.480
and who wouldn't and that's who. So they pack up

780
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.639
their stuff and you know, say goodbye to the men

781
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:42.719
that they shared food with. The man gets a feeling

782
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.000
nessor knows what these beasts are, and he tells them

783
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:48.239
he has seen them to and then he tells Neslor

784
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:51.760
to be careful, and so Nestor and Na continue moving on.

785
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:53.760
This is where he teaches her how to show and

786
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:56.199
it's the cutest thing ever. And I thought they would

787
00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:58.960
get together like right then and there, but they're interrupted.

788
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:02.440
There's a dozen voice in the distance in English, and

789
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:06.599
it's the Yankees. They got there to ruin everything, just

790
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:07.480
like they always do.

791
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:08.239
Right.

792
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:11.159
They see that they have something with them and they're

793
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:13.119
hiding like you know, and they could they're looking and

794
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:16.719
Nana starts feeling like something's looking at her. And then

795
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:20.400
they realize like they are using the vampires as weapons,

796
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:21.679
like they have them chained up.

797
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:23.039
They don't make their realization yet.

798
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:25.679
They see that the vampires are chained with the Yankees,

799
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:28.840
and that's odd, right, They're like, what is happening?

800
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:30.199
What is that? Yeah?

801
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:32.639
And so they escape and find shelter like in some

802
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:34.559
oh is this a cave part? No, They're like in

803
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:37.960
a cave twice? Right, maybe they find shelter in a

804
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:42.239
cave and Nestor asks if also sorry pause dream chess.

805
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:43.920
They keep using that is that a word for the

806
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:46.000
vampires or a word for the Yankees or what?

807
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:47.039
I don't remember.

808
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:49.480
It's all over the book, and at first I thought

809
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:51.840
it was just another word for the Yankees, but now

810
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:53.800
I'm wondering if it was a word for the vampires,

811
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:55.960
because I think Nesto at this point asks her what

812
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:58.079
she thinks of the Rien Chess, and this whole time,

813
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.519
I thought it was the Yankees, but maybe it's not.

814
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:07.639
I think it's for the Texas Rangers. Oh, this makes sense, yes,

815
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:11.519
because they would be encountering not just normal like US Army,

816
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:14.840
but they would be encountering the Texas Rangers, right, who

817
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.599
at this point in time have a reputation of.

818
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.639
Being terrible, violent, the worst of the worst.

819
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:24.599
Okay, And so in this book, the Texas Rangers are

820
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:27.159
the ones with the vampires, and then there's also the

821
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:30.519
regular Yankees. Okay, but they don't have the vampires the

822
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:33.440
Rangers do, right, right, that's what I think, okay? Or

823
00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:35.880
I mean they could also be that they're using Yankees

824
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:37.480
and dings interchangeably.

825
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:40.880
That's true. I remember because they were in this in February, right.

826
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:43.320
It was a while for you, but I think I

827
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:47.079
think we might be right. So they at first, Nestor

828
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:49.599
asks like, were they trying to get rid of the vampires?

829
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:50.639
Is that why they're chained up?

830
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:54.800
And Na wonders if they're using the vampires to get

831
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:56.280
rid of them.

832
00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:58.840
The Mexicans. Yeah, and he's.

833
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:02.880
Like, no, no, no way, that's no no no, no,

834
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:05.239
mom is no no, like when you don't want to

835
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:07.960
believe something because that's deranged. He's like, this is the

836
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:10.199
most arranged thing I've ever heard, Like there's no way,

837
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:13.320
but there was. But then she's like, think about it,

838
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:17.239
like have you encountered any animal that cannot be broken?

839
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:20.159
Like any animal can be broken and trained. So if

840
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:22.960
that's true, then why couldn't they train these vampires to

841
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:26.840
attack Mexicans? And it's just there's so much there that's

842
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:31.360
like the symbolism is insane, like because it's true. They

843
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:34.519
will go through any they will use any means, they'll

844
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:38.280
weaponize anything to destroy That's what that's what is.

845
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:41.480
That's who they want to destroy. And the lesson is

846
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:45.760
the Yankees are the real monsters, not the vampires.

847
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:49.079
Literan. Yeah, that's what I got by the end of

848
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:52.079
this too. So I think right after this is when

849
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:55.360
they finally do it, they finally get together, and so

850
00:39:55.480 --> 00:40:00.559
then you know, after they finally get together, Nana sleeping,

851
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:02.440
he takes watch for the whole night so that.

852
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:05.800
She rests, she needs her being to rest, and he sees.

853
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:08.480
Vampires in the distance, but they can't get close because

854
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:11.719
of the salt that they put around the perimeter. And

855
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:13.800
that's why I know that this is the second time

856
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:15.480
they're in a cave, because the first time is when

857
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:16.679
she got hurt or he got hurt.

858
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:18.480
One of them got hurt. Someone got hurt.

859
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:23.159
And it's the guy that they meet that tells them

860
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:25.440
about the salt or is this something they remember from

861
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:26.719
Ala one of.

862
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:27.719
Those things things?

863
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:31.000
Yeah, yeah, when they meet the when they're at the

864
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:33.320
campfire with the other people, he's the one who tells them.

865
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:36.599
But also she remembers and he sees that that Auela

866
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:38.360
did pack salt in his things.

867
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:41.000
She put it there for a reason. So finally they

868
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:41.559
put the salt.

869
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:44.239
And can you just imagine sitting there keeping watch and

870
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:48.079
in the distance you see these creatures like watching you. Yeah,

871
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:50.679
that's terrifying. But also do you want to I don't

872
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.400
know if you the same thing came to your head?

873
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:56.519
Very silly, very unserious. Do you know where I'm going

874
00:40:56.519 --> 00:41:00.519
with this? Maybe, but I'll let you continue. And bob

875
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:09.840
Boba sponka the spongebok no okay translated spongebo okay. When

876
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:13.559
there I forgot what they have to make like a circle.

877
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:18.039
So that's a bar, That's what I thought, and I

878
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:22.039
was like laughing to myself. I was like a little.

879
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:26.000
Boys Wonka moment. You were right, that was very un serious.

880
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:30.599
But yeah, essentially it's the same thing where Screenword and

881
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:33.400
SpongeBob are inside this No sorry, Patrick and Spongebobb are

882
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:36.639
inside this circle, protecting so themselves from the bearer, and

883
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:38.800
Squeward doesn't believe them, and then he gets attacked. Yeah,

884
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:40.599
and then he gets attacked again and again and again.

885
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:41.440
Yeah.

886
00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:45.000
So yeah, now it's morning time. They start moving and

887
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.880
they reached Nouqulos pretty quickly after this. Everyone's happy to

888
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:49.800
see them, except Nana's fucking family.

889
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:52.800
I'm like, are you guys serious? They're such bitches. I

890
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:53.760
was so mad at them.

891
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:56.519
I couldn't believe this ship. They should be happy she's alive,

892
00:41:56.960 --> 00:41:59.360
but no, always with a giving up and taos the

893
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:04.559
masks who cares? Who fucking cares? Fus, Yeah she's alive,

894
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.400
Like that's all you should care about, but no, Nona's

895
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.360
mom is not happy to see Nesto is with her.

896
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:12.760
Nana tells her what happened, why they're here now? Her

897
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:15.880
mom tells her that her father sent news him and

898
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:19.800
Felix's her brother. They're okay, and Nesto naturally like anyone

899
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:23.400
would ask about his brother, and she tells him they

900
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:26.760
don't send news about the vac ghettos, like like thevac

901
00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:32.679
ghettos got together to help you your land, so you know,

902
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:37.119
at least show some kind of ounce of like respect, generosity,

903
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.199
like not generosity, but like thankfulness.

904
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:41.480
Yeah, I have respect. Yeah.

905
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:43.280
So he wants to go put their horses away, and

906
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.719
Na tells them that she will do it because he's hurt,

907
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:47.119
and then her mom is like please, that's why I

908
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:49.880
get to work. But it's like he's hurt, yeah, like

909
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:52.880
come on, and he just delivered your daughter to you.

910
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:56.039
I just could not believe the audacity, but at the

911
00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:59.039
same time it could so luckily. Ignacio, who didn't go

912
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:01.719
with them because he was from the Susto, walks up

913
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:03.039
and he puts the horses away.

914
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:04.679
Nestor goes to his family.

915
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:07.400
Abuela asks how him and Nana are doing, and he's like,

916
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:08.760
I want to marry her, Abilla.

917
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:11.599
Yeah, that's how great things are.

918
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:14.039
Yeah. A Willa was like what about Don Feliges and

919
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.559
ESA's like, if we can face El Cuco and we

920
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:19.840
can face those monsters, we can face anything, and you

921
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.440
would think so then you know it's that's it's nighttime

922
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:24.519
when they arrive, so then it's the next day. Nana

923
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:27.400
is telling her cousin, I believe her sister. I don't

924
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:29.880
remember which one, because they're both the people she talks

925
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:31.880
to the most. It's her sister and her cousin, So

926
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:34.719
she's telling one of them about what they saw, and

927
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:38.159
then her mom comes and interrupts her, and then typical

928
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:41.639
Mexican fashion, tells her to stop talking about monsters and shit,

929
00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:46.159
like to stop like and that she Lissa stop talking about,

930
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:48.199
you know, the journey and how she was alone with

931
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:52.320
the peon, which I guess is what they call yeah peon.

932
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:56.119
Oh sorry that was in English. I read it in Spanish. Yeah,

933
00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:58.400
So Nana listened and it's like, fine, I'll stop talking

934
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:01.320
about this. So that's already like once find that she's

935
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:04.920
already uh trekking back on her because she had told

936
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:07.159
Nessa she was gonna talk to her family right yes,

937
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:09.360
that it didn't matter, they were going to be together,

938
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:11.760
So she's backtracking her behavior.

939
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:14.159
Mm hmmm hm taking taking aback.

940
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:17.760
So then there's evening prayers Nana and Nestor me and

941
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:19.760
he kisses her and she's like, stopped here going to

942
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:22.519
see us, and that's like another thing he's like. He's like, oh,

943
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:25.599
this isn't gonna and the way that I thought it was.

944
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:26.039
Yeah.

945
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:28.760
Nana tells him that her mom is already upset over

946
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.000
the vampire talk and she just needs to wait to

947
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:35.199
like smooth things over. Basically, her sister's having nightmares, and

948
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:37.679
Nesta tells her there's been two more attacks and one

949
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:40.199
person didn't survive, a girl, so you know it's getting

950
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:42.199
more serious. He wants to walk her home and she

951
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:45.159
doesn't let him, and he is her bathis He's like, okay,

952
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:49.480
this is yeah. Another another to him, Yeah, another blow

953
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:53.440
like another another staff and he's back. Then a couple

954
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:55.280
of days go by, the rest of the men returned.

955
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:58.079
Feliks and Don Felix are all right. So it's Betho

956
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:02.280
and Cassie Middle, but Cassie Middle's her Casimiro is Nestor's cousin.

957
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:03.320
I think it's his cousin.

958
00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:04.800
Oh whoops, I thought it was his brother. But I

959
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:06.400
think you're right, and it is his cousin. I think

960
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:08.280
that's what he was asking about when he asked. And

961
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:13.400
then as mom and she's like, who yeah, fun, Sorry,

962
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:15.360
you want me to tell you about the fucking peasants?

963
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:18.719
No about my employees? Why don't keep track of them?

964
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:22.039
I could give two shits. They could croak over and die,

965
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:27.159
and I don't care exactly what she said. So Nana

966
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:30.199
asks Betho when he returns if he feels it too,

967
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:32.199
and at first he's like what, but then she's like,

968
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:35.400
the wound on your neck, do you feel a tingling?

969
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:40.280
And he's like, yeah, this means the vampires are in

970
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:41.000
your bib right?

971
00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:44.199
Oh no, but she doesn't tell him this. Yeah, I

972
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:46.880
don't think. I don't remember. I don't think so yeah.

973
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:49.360
So then she goes to see Felix and she tells

974
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:51.719
him that Nestor helps her back home, and he's like, oh,

975
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:54.679
the rumors are true. Then you and a Vacquero alone

976
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:57.400
on the road, they're rumors. They're rumors, And I'm like, shit,

977
00:45:57.440 --> 00:45:59.960
the fuck. At least she made it back in one piece.

978
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.119
If it was not for Nestor, she would have she

979
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:02.519
would have.

980
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:04.679
Made it back. No, not at all.

981
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:07.480
He saves her in the battlefield, but all they care

982
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:10.800
about is, oh, your image, Oh how can you be

983
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:12.920
seen with the which I get that's what it was

984
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:16.159
like back then. But still, man, she's alive.

985
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:17.199
Just be happy.

986
00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:20.000
She's alive, like seriously. So then her dad walks in

987
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.079
and he's like, oh, thank god, you're all right. I

988
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:23.880
should have never agreed to let you come. It was

989
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:26.880
too dangerous. And then her mom just like loses her

990
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:28.960
shit for no fucking reason. She's like, you should have

991
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:31.280
seen us say she returned in and with that boy,

992
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:33.559
he crossed the line and we cannot fix this.

993
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:35.239
No one will want to marry her.

994
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:37.599
And then her dad storms out and I'm like, oh

995
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:41.280
my god, calm down, everyone calm down, but they don't.

996
00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:46.559
He storms to the Duarte Hakka so where Nestor's family

997
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:50.559
lips and Nana is about to follow. Her mom's like, stop,

998
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.039
he needs to be made or the boy needs to

999
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:56.079
be made an example, and I'm like, the boy this

1000
00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:59.519
is a man, a man that saved her life.

1001
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.719
Mm hmm. I was so annoyed at her family. Me too,

1002
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:03.320
me too.

1003
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:05.920
So then Nana tells her her mom off and she

1004
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:10.440
runs after her dad. Then Don Fendix is yelling at

1005
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:14.519
Nestos is yelling back, he's not taking this ship again.

1006
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:16.079
He's a freelance facto.

1007
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:19.920
He does not to stand for no man, no, Asendalo

1008
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:21.679
yelling at him no.

1009
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:23.239
So they're exchanging words.

1010
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:26.639
Nesta tells him that he's not hisato, he's his equal,

1011
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:29.760
and he's going to buy land right here, right next

1012
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:31.039
door to dash. Shit.

1013
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:32.400
I was like fuck.

1014
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:35.639
I was like yes. He's like, I'm gonna marry Nana.

1015
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:38.119
And Nana walks up as he's saying that she's Felix

1016
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:40.800
is like is this true. She's like, oh fuck.

1017
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:46.199
Is this? Oh my god? I love it. I would

1018
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:50.519
love this novella to me too. It has everything, it

1019
00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:51.800
has everything you need. Yeah.

1020
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:54.760
So Nana's like, uh no, like no, let's talk about

1021
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:56.920
this alone. Like she wants her dad to calm down

1022
00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:00.719
before she admits to anything. That's all Nestlo needed to hear.

1023
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:02.960
He's like, fuck this, you're not willing to stand up

1024
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:05.840
to your dad. I'm sucking done. I'm done. He's trying

1025
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:06.719
to talk to Nana.

1026
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:08.920
Don't. FedEx is yelling then don't.

1027
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:11.599
Felix turns to Nestor and tells them like, you know

1028
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:14.360
what you're right, you're not my employee. Get off my land.

1029
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:17.079
You're banished. If I see you again, it's on site.

1030
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:21.119
It's on site, like I'm killing you on site. So

1031
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:23.800
Nesta's like, you know what, fine, fuck this, I don't

1032
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:25.000
need this chance.

1033
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:27.880
I was doing just fine before, just fine.

1034
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:31.639
Exactly that moment in the movies, you know, yeah, yeah,

1035
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:34.280
where the kid is telling the dog to leave.

1036
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:38.400
Get out of here, I love you anymore.

1037
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:41.559
I was like, yeah, I also thought of the I

1038
00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:43.719
don't even remember what it's from, but it's his kid,

1039
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:47.079
and he's like, don't call me, dude.

1040
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:51.639
I's like, what, don't call me, don't call my house.

1041
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:53.199
We're done?

1042
00:48:56.519 --> 00:48:59.440
Yes, that was Yeah, it's from Diarva, would be kid.

1043
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:02.880
Okay then yeah, yeah that was nestor don't call me,

1044
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:04.079
don't come by my house.

1045
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:05.800
And he he's.

1046
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:08.039
Like, yeah, you're right. So he leaves, just like he

1047
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:11.960
did nine years ago. He leaves. Nana is on her

1048
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:13.760
on her in her bed, like trying to sleep that night,

1049
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:15.320
you know, but she can't. There's a lot on her

1050
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:18.679
mind because obviously the love of her life has left

1051
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:19.960
yet again, but this time.

1052
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:20.760
Is kind of her fault.

1053
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:23.760
Yeah, she can't be mad this time, she can only

1054
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:26.519
be mad at herself, and so she's trying to sleep

1055
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:28.880
and she's woken up by their dog who's by the window,

1056
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:31.440
and then she's like, wait, all the dogs are barking,

1057
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:33.679
and then there's gunshots and screaming.

1058
00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:35.800
It's the Yankees. They've arrived.

1059
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:38.840
As so, you know, we leave her and we go

1060
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:45.000
to Nestor writing West writing fast. He's mad but Nana

1061
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:48.960
that she didn't stand up for them. Later, as he's writing,

1062
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:52.280
he passes by a puma that has been mauled and

1063
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:52.719
he's like.

1064
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:55.920
Oh no, this can't be good. Ah fuck, I know

1065
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:57.079
what this is. Oh shit.

1066
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:03.079
He immediately turns around and rides fast towards Los Aquelos.

1067
00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:05.920
Back in Loulos, Na is instructing her sister to take

1068
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:08.400
the salt and make a barrier. Her mom comes out

1069
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:10.159
and asks what's going on, And at that moment, a

1070
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:12.000
vampire is trying to jump in at the window, and

1071
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.480
that's second terrifying. Then there's a little adorable dog Boyo

1072
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:19.800
attacks a vampire, Go Boyo and bites it in the leg. Yes,

1073
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:22.360
go Boyo, and Nana hacks at it with a butcher

1074
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:24.480
knife or something, and so they're able to fight this

1075
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:27.039
one off and Nana or sorry, Nana's mom is like

1076
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:27.559
what was that?

1077
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:30.239
And Na's like, hell cuckoo. It's just it's just.

1078
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:32.440
A moment in TV when it's like like a tense

1079
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:34.920
like piano, and then you're like what was that? And

1080
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:37.800
then it zooms in and she's like hell cucko. So

1081
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:41.960
she finishes pouring the salt. They all realize I will

1082
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.239
ask stories are true. And then she like a like

1083
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:47.880
a badass. She's like, all right, you guys, like be

1084
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:50.320
careful of this, blah blah blah, do not break this barrier.

1085
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:53.760
And then she jumps over the salt like a true

1086
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:58.119
action hero a she wrote moment. Yeah, she jumps over

1087
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:01.079
the salt. She runs toward the noise or something. She's

1088
00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:03.719
running outside and she runs into Nesto. And so then

1089
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:07.840
there's fighting between them, the ring ches so the Texas Rangers,

1090
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:09.199
I guess, and the vampires.

1091
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:14.440
The vampires in the middle, yeah, the Cucos, the cucos. Yeah.

1092
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:15.360
Nana is hurt.

1093
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:19.880
She's taken to Abuela, and Abuela has Nestler called Nana back,

1094
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:21.920
and of course she does a Wella's like you know,

1095
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:22.920
you two love each other.

1096
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:24.599
I can't do this. You were gonna do it.

1097
00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:29.199
She needs the love of her life to call her back. Yeah,

1098
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:30.840
her soulmate exactly.

1099
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:33.159
And it works. She wakes up, they make up.

1100
00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:35.760
Her dad is walking up as they're like, you know,

1101
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:37.679
hugging each other making up, and he's.

1102
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:39.239
Like, what the fuck what are you doing?

1103
00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:41.119
And then I was like no, he goes, I go,

1104
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:43.719
I don't care what anyone says anymore.

1105
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:44.760
And they're finally together.

1106
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:46.760
But also at some point during all this, there is

1107
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:50.000
a moment where she realizes that the I didn't write

1108
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:51.760
it down, That's why I'm summarizing it in this manner.

1109
00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:53.760
So there's a moment where she realizes the ring Chet,

1110
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:56.599
not the Rynches, the vampires are not doing this of

1111
00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:59.000
their own volition. They're not doing this of their own will. Yeah,

1112
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:02.000
they're being controlled by the Yankees, by the Rangers, the

1113
00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:05.400
Texas Rangers. They're trapped and they're hurt. They just they

1114
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:08.320
want to be free too, And she like empathizes with

1115
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:10.880
them with the monsters because she's like, you know what,

1116
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:15.000
they're not the monsters the power of empathy, you know. Yeah,

1117
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:18.039
she realizes that they are a tool being used by

1118
00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:21.119
the colonizers. By the real monsters, and she has this

1119
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:24.119
moment of understanding with one of them and then they're like,

1120
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:26.119
all right, let's go, this is in our battle.

1121
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:26.679
We're free.

1122
00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:29.639
She like unties their chains or some shit, and yeah,

1123
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:32.400
they're they're the vampires leave. They end up, you know,

1124
00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:34.880
beating the Yankees after that, who then also flee because

1125
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:36.239
they don't have their vampires anymore.

1126
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:38.119
So that's that happens.

1127
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:41.920
And yeah, so then there is a little like flash

1128
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:44.880
forward moment where there's like a tiny little wedding celebration.

1129
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.559
Then they have like a plot of land, not like

1130
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:50.440
we're almost right next to Loslos and Nesslo. It is like,

1131
00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:52.000
all right, I'm going to go off to ten the

1132
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:54.039
I don't know animals. And she's like at the footstep

1133
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:56.920
or something of the house and across the river she

1134
00:52:57.039 --> 00:53:01.000
sees a vampire. It looks at her. She and they're

1135
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:02.719
like it's like a little moment of respect and it

1136
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:07.320
just leaves, and yeah, that is the end. Welcome to

1137
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:09.480
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1138
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:12.519
out to our newest patron member, Karen, thank you so

1139
00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:16.480
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1140
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:23.400
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1147
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1154
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:31.360
Amazing. Yeah, I loved it. I loved it.

1155
00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:35.039
Any thoughts you want to address before the questions anything

1156
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:39.000
overall overall, no, I don't think so, other than I

1157
00:54:39.079 --> 00:54:44.400
just loved, absolutely loved reading about Nestor and and as

1158
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:48.719
I love like progressing them getting over it. I'm so

1159
00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:50.119
happy they ended up together.

1160
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:51.679
I hate I.

1161
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:58.800
Hate we have been heard by is we have. I

1162
00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:04.119
absolutely can stand when the protagonists don't end up together,

1163
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.079
like it's the one thing I can't stand. I can't

1164
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:10.159
and understand what happens. Like life, it's not perfect. It

1165
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:15.639
doesn't work out sometimes I get that, but I hate it. Yeah, same,

1166
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:19.400
same thoughts. Okay, so discussions now, discussion questions.

1167
00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:20.840
Sure. Sure.

1168
00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:23.840
At the start of this novel, Nana is resigned to

1169
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:26.840
the fate her parents choose for her. A Neisode is

1170
00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:29.679
resigned to never coming back to Los Aquelos. Discuss their

1171
00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:32.440
growth over the course of the story. Did you think

1172
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:36.159
they have similar motivations? I mean they grew so much,

1173
00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:39.199
like think. I think the fact that she was able

1174
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:42.679
to stand up to her parents and come to the

1175
00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:45.719
point where she was able to make that huge decision

1176
00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:48.119
which she didn't know it could have ended.

1177
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:50.760
In her being shunned from her family. I don't know.

1178
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:53.360
It's it's such a huge thing.

1179
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:56.960
Like even if now people are afraid, women are afraid

1180
00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:59.480
of going against their families, like imagine back then.

1181
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:03.159
Yeah, exactly, it was huge on her, on her to

1182
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:05.000
be able to do this. Is there anything you want

1183
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:06.719
to add? No, I agree with you.

1184
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:10.079
I think he had a lot of resentment to let

1185
00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:12.159
go of two. But I think the person that really

1186
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:13.960
had to grow the most here with her, and she

1187
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:16.920
did because she had to see, like, this is really

1188
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:20.280
what it's like for people living working under my father,

1189
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:22.159
and even for her to be able to center for

1190
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:24.679
her parents. Like, I completely agree with what you were

1191
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:27.440
what you were saying, Like even even her coming to

1192
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:30.360
terms with like that she loved Nestor to begin with,

1193
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:33.360
it took longer like than he. I think he knew

1194
00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:36.119
from the beginning, even when they were young little baby, No,

1195
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:39.480
they weren't babies, but like you know, teens thirteen. So yeah,

1196
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:41.960
I think I think she had more growing to do

1197
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:44.079
than him. But he also had to, like you know,

1198
00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:45.840
let go of a lot of anger, which they both

1199
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:48.800
they both ended up I think could should we read

1200
00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:52.559
the listener's answer, Yeah, this is our what our listeners said.

1201
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:55.119
I got the impression. Nestor was determined to get with

1202
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:57.000
Nana as soon as he found out she was alive.

1203
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:00.000
Prior to returning to Los Solos, Nestor just wanted to

1204
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:03.159
by his land and have his own VENTI. Nana wanted

1205
00:57:03.159 --> 00:57:06.159
to prove how valuable she was to Lecienda without needing

1206
00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:08.800
a man. But then Nesso showed up. I think both

1207
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:11.679
characters showed growth by expressing their feelings toward each other.

1208
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:14.480
Nesslo was very shut off and did not speak about

1209
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:17.159
his feelings, while Nana was somewhat impulsive.

1210
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:18.840
Yeah, such a great answer.

1211
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:21.760
I didn't even think about their beginning motivations, even though

1212
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:25.719
that was part of the question, And that's very idiohy

1213
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:27.719
of me to just skip over a question just to

1214
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:29.719
answer the part that I like. But yeah, they both

1215
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:34.159
started out with such different motivations. So yes, good point, listener,

1216
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:37.079
Thank you for putting that out for us. Thank you

1217
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:41.840
for bringing us back to the plot. Yeah, okay. In contrast,

1218
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:51.599
what do you think they were each lacking without each other? Love, happiness, joy, romance? Okay,

1219
00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:54.119
to be a little more serious about the answer, I

1220
00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:57.880
think they were both lacking emotional intelligence without each other.

1221
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:01.639
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean, she couldn't even finish

1222
00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:05.760
her kurunda like training because she was so blocked off

1223
00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:09.880
to her emotions and just like wanting to shut things down,

1224
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:13.039
you know. And he too was so shut off that

1225
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:16.920
he was you know, drinking and hooking up, you know. Yeah,

1226
00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:20.119
and so in different ways, they were lacking the same thing.

1227
00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:23.880
So let's see what are losing answer this? Yes, okay.

1228
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:26.679
So Nna looked at Nestor as someone who would love

1229
00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:29.639
and support her unconditionally. When Or and Na were fighting

1230
00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:32.760
on their way back to Nana noticed how she changed

1231
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:34.960
because her parents' love was held by a loose thread.

1232
00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:37.679
For nesslo, I think Nana was his inspiration for the

1233
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:40.840
future while Na. While Nestor believed Na was dead, he

1234
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:43.719
was so working toward buying his land to be independent.

1235
00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:48.159
Yeah again, excellent, excellent points. Again did so much better

1236
00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:51.880
than we did. And I feel like that's a common thing.

1237
00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:55.760
What did you make of the decision to have Nana

1238
00:58:55.840 --> 00:58:58.719
and Nestor come from different social classes? What did you

1239
00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:01.960
think this was meant to tell us about the community? Again,

1240
00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:06.400
we love in a more probibido story. Yes, one of

1241
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:12.079
my favorite songs, hey no tengo the nero no Tengore, Yes,

1242
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:16.760
love Us Some Selena, some Quanga the other novelas with Aaliyah.

1243
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:19.760
You know, this theme, this running theme is one of

1244
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:22.760
our favorites. I mean it's a sign of the times also,

1245
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:25.519
especially like I don't know about now. I think it's

1246
00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:28.480
probably so thing now but so much less. But for me,

1247
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:31.239
I think it was it was done to highlight the

1248
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:36.039
social structures. Is that the word social stigmas of the time,

1249
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:41.719
societal expectations, things like that. Yeah, it really paints a

1250
00:59:41.719 --> 00:59:44.599
picture of what it was like because and even in

1251
00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:47.400
some worlds it is still very true. Like you know,

1252
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:50.119
not to go that far back to the novel right

1253
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:52.360
in twenty ten, but it's the same thing where she

1254
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:54.960
was trying to go above her social status and her

1255
00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:59.400
social class by being with El Profeturo, who was a

1256
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:02.840
rich lawyer of Spanish ancestry.

1257
01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:03.280
Right.

1258
01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:05.800
And not only was her story he's like old money

1259
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:08.800
in that town too, right. Yeah, and this is I

1260
01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:11.679
know a similar thing. But it really does highlight what

1261
01:00:11.719 --> 01:00:13.760
it was like and what it's still like. Like it's

1262
01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:14.159
not over.

1263
01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:16.079
Oh hi, my okay, I seen if you had was

1264
01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:16.519
he waving?

1265
01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:19.960
Yeah, he was waving, So our listener said the difference

1266
01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:23.239
in social classes added to the story and the historical references.

1267
01:00:23.320 --> 01:00:25.599
It also made it fun to read a story of

1268
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:30.400
amorpri Vido. Yes, and yeah, we completely obviously we already

1269
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:31.440
said our answer, but yeah, I.

1270
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:32.679
Mean, same answer.

1271
01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:35.440
Okay, So what are your thoughts on the portrayal of

1272
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:38.039
vampires in this story? Why do you think they were

1273
01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:41.079
written this way? It was so interesting. It's such a

1274
01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:46.679
different take on the vampire, especially the changing the story

1275
01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:49.920
or the I don't know, lore on its head with

1276
01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:55.320
They're like a wild animal, right being weaponized, and it's

1277
01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:58.840
mankind that we should be afraid of. If our dad

1278
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:01.159
were to write vampire, this is how he would write

1279
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:04.320
the vampire. I think because of that thing he's always

1280
01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:07.559
telling us. He always tells us be more afraid of

1281
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:11.239
the living than the dead, And this is this, that's

1282
01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:11.880
what this is.

1283
01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:15.239
I don't I don't think I read a vampire like that.

1284
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:20.559
No, where it's just another animal in nature and the

1285
01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:25.920
monsters are the men weaponizing. Yeah, this creature and also

1286
01:01:26.039 --> 01:01:30.559
fascinating that their biting of others is something that is cured.

1287
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:33.239
That it's I love that she made it susto. That

1288
01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:35.880
was amazing and also that they're not. It's not like

1289
01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:38.360
other vampire stories where they're going to turn into vampires

1290
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:41.559
and like, so that was that was also fascinating. Yeah,

1291
01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:45.119
it made it more like like a wild creature type thing.

1292
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:48.639
And then our listener said, I liked that the vampires

1293
01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:50.760
were different than what we know them to be. I

1294
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:53.599
enjoyed the twists that there was a cure in a sense,

1295
01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:56.599
it made it more believable for me. I love that

1296
01:01:56.639 --> 01:02:00.519
the author used susto as like war happens, yeah, when

1297
01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:03.599
you get bitten. So yeah, I mean completely agree. Okay,

1298
01:02:03.639 --> 01:02:06.920
So and Nana butt heads a lot. Who did you

1299
01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:09.960
relate to more? I don't know if I related to

1300
01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:11.960
one or the other more, but I can tell you

1301
01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:13.760
who I was rooting for the whole time, and.

1302
01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:18.239
Yes it was Nestor again not us. Oh my god,

1303
01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:21.119
why do we hate women? I don't know that that

1304
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:21.679
or just that.

1305
01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:26.000
I seven writes men really well and makes me want

1306
01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:27.880
to root for them, whereas in real life, am I

1307
01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:28.719
you will never.

1308
01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:31.840
Catch me rooting for a man?

1309
01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:36.159
No, and I agree, but I think it has to

1310
01:02:36.199 --> 01:02:38.400
do with how we also grew up, because we're not

1311
01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:41.039
gonna identify with like the rich as in Dada, who

1312
01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:45.519
doesn't realize that the workers are being overworked and who

1313
01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:48.760
has to learn this right? And there are aspects that

1314
01:02:48.840 --> 01:02:52.519
you can identify with her obviously, like the whole U

1315
01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:54.199
and can hang out together anymore?

1316
01:02:54.639 --> 01:02:56.159
What will the people think?

1317
01:02:56.400 --> 01:03:00.440
I mean even when I was or I told our

1318
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:03.719
mother that my husband has a child, and she's like, oh,

1319
01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:15.679
like yeah, people and people people, yeah, yeah, no. And

1320
01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:20.039
you know what's funny. Our cousin in Mexico, he's more

1321
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:23.079
like another son of our grandparents, but to us he's

1322
01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:25.840
our cousin. But he was raised by them, not by

1323
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:30.800
his like our uncle. And he had briefly a girlfriend

1324
01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:35.559
that had a child. And when people like our Urtas

1325
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:37.920
and our Willie that we're mad at him for the yeah,

1326
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:41.800
And he was like, what about Christina, she's literally married

1327
01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:47.039
to like and they're like states, he's a different No, yeah,

1328
01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:50.039
she's American, Like, it's not the same. Those values are

1329
01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:52.559
not the same. So it just goes to show how

1330
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:53.920
this is ingrained.

1331
01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:55.320
That's right.

1332
01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:59.840
So in that sense, honestly, Nana was very relatable and

1333
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:04.280
sense so I can't I can like for me, it's

1334
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:08.239
a little more even because of that, but still Nestor

1335
01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:11.599
in other ways, like it's it's really a mix of

1336
01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:14.079
both of them. Yeah, I would agree with you, because

1337
01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:16.679
it's like, yeah, like seeing yourself in the underdog, because

1338
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:19.079
you're more like, yeah that because you are the under

1339
01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:23.039
you are the working because you are better. You are

1340
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:29.000
a freelancer. I am a freelance. Yeah, I am a

1341
01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:34.480
working woman nine to five, sort of like a rodeo,

1342
01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:40.320
the rodeo of capitalism that we're on. Yeah, that we

1343
01:04:40.360 --> 01:04:44.559
can't escape. And so in that sense, yes, we I

1344
01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:48.239
relate a lot more to Nestor than the the owner

1345
01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:54.199
class the Yes, but in a sense there's also things

1346
01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:56.599
that are I mean, she's a woman transcend class.

1347
01:04:56.719 --> 01:04:58.880
She's a woman exactly. Yeah that.

1348
01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:03.599
Yes, Yeah, So I honestly I found them both me too.

1349
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:05.480
It was like a mix, a mix of like who

1350
01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:08.679
do I And I didn't find either like unlikable, Like

1351
01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:11.840
both of them had their flaws, but both of them

1352
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:17.519
were well rounded, you know, yeah, full flesh characters. Yeah,

1353
01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:20.880
our listener. I found they were both relatable, but found

1354
01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:22.119
to be more like nest.

1355
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:24.000
Oh my god, not us being the same.

1356
01:05:24.679 --> 01:05:27.320
Yeah, in the sense of not being able to share

1357
01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:29.639
emotions most of the times. And like pushing everything back,

1358
01:05:29.719 --> 01:05:32.960
and I mean, yeah, yeah, all right, next one, thinking

1359
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:36.119
about the previous question, do you think either Nana or

1360
01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:38.920
Nestor had a point in their arguments? Who do you

1361
01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:43.440
think benefited most from their disagreements. I feel like Nana

1362
01:05:43.480 --> 01:05:46.559
benefited more because I feel like she was able to

1363
01:05:46.679 --> 01:05:51.280
learn new perspectives from their arguments that she had never

1364
01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:55.880
considered before, and so for her it was more character

1365
01:05:55.960 --> 01:05:58.360
developing than for Nestor.

1366
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:00.480
Yeah, I agree. I agree.

1367
01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:03.800
So our listener said each person was basing their arguments

1368
01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:06.920
on their own perspectives and did not understand the or

1369
01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:09.760
did not stop to understand the other person. And half

1370
01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:12.480
the time, I think that was correct because Na was

1371
01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:15.199
so also so stubborn. They were both so stubborn, And

1372
01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:16.960
I love that because I'm also stubborn.

1373
01:06:17.039 --> 01:06:17.679
Yeah, me too.

1374
01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:20.400
I feel like it's only like, really one or two

1375
01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:24.280
of their arguments where she ponders it later. Yeah yeah,

1376
01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:25.719
And I feel like he does the same, like he

1377
01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:28.440
ponders about what she says later, but in the moment,

1378
01:06:28.519 --> 01:06:31.000
it's just like, you know, back and forth and know

1379
01:06:31.239 --> 01:06:34.599
it's not going anywhere. Yeah, unless they start making out.

1380
01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:39.000
The next one, the story is sad in eighteen forties Mexico.

1381
01:06:39.079 --> 01:06:41.360
Did you have any expectations of what this time period

1382
01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:43.360
would have been like? What did you learn from this novel?

1383
01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:46.159
And honestly, like I had, I knew what this time

1384
01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:48.199
period was like because of all of our research of

1385
01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:50.920
his studios that know me too. I don't think anything

1386
01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:54.440
surprised me. But it's always interesting to read about that

1387
01:06:54.519 --> 01:06:55.159
time period.

1388
01:06:55.400 --> 01:06:56.039
Yeah. Same.

1389
01:06:56.280 --> 01:06:58.920
So the next one, Mama and Papa were tough on

1390
01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:03.199
both Nana and in the story. Did you understand their reasoning? No,

1391
01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:06.800
I understood it, but I didn't agree with it. But

1392
01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:10.480
I understood it, I did. No, I agree, there's besides

1393
01:07:10.599 --> 01:07:16.199
the societal expectations, they were also looking out for their

1394
01:07:16.719 --> 01:07:21.480
land and their heirs, and they're maintaining the relationships with

1395
01:07:21.599 --> 01:07:25.480
the people like them, you know, the family name, the honor.

1396
01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:29.960
But I didn't agree. Yeah, but I understood. But yeah,

1397
01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:31.400
but I got it. But I didn't like it, but

1398
01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:32.039
I got yeah.

1399
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:34.480
Yeah, our listener, it seemed to me that the parents'

1400
01:07:34.519 --> 01:07:36.559
main concern was to keep the family's honor and for

1401
01:07:36.599 --> 01:07:38.840
everyone to view Nna as a respectable woman.

1402
01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:39.239
Yeah.

1403
01:07:39.320 --> 01:07:42.199
I imagine those times. Many just had the mindset of

1404
01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:44.199
things or just the way they are. I feel like,

1405
01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:46.239
even to this day, there are parents who don't have

1406
01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:48.679
bad intentions, but they only follow one path.

1407
01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:50.239
Yeah. Better said than ust.

1408
01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:50.760
Thank you.

1409
01:07:52.599 --> 01:07:56.320
Always, it's always. Yeah.

1410
01:07:56.400 --> 01:07:58.840
Did you see any parallels between the humans and the

1411
01:07:58.880 --> 01:07:59.960
vampires of the story.

1412
01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:03.280
I did, because with whom.

1413
01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:09.880
Both both Neston and Nana are trapped by the society

1414
01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:13.400
that they live in, right by the time period that

1415
01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:19.439
they you know, exist in, and likewise, the vampires are

1416
01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:23.439
trapped by their circumstances of being trapped by the climate.

1417
01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:23.880
I love.

1418
01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:27.600
I lost my my you know it was it was

1419
01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:28.680
good and I lost it.

1420
01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:31.319
I did. But I think people know what I'm saying.

1421
01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:34.520
It started out and then just went.

1422
01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:38.239
Yeah, like when Michael Scott starts saying a sentence and

1423
01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:39.880
then kind of just feel where it's going to go,

1424
01:08:40.039 --> 01:08:40.680
like you don't know.

1425
01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:42.560
Yeah, I just make it up as you go. Yes,

1426
01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:45.319
that was me right now. But I mean the vampires

1427
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:46.199
were also trapped.

1428
01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:49.279
Yeah, they were all trapped and they had to be

1429
01:08:49.359 --> 01:08:52.760
freed by by the end, yes, by the end, all

1430
01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:56.840
three were freed, and in a in a bigger sense,

1431
01:08:56.960 --> 01:09:00.479
her family was also freed of having to maintain these

1432
01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:04.279
expectations and finally like, yeah, our daughters, it's not the

1433
01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:06.279
end of the world if she is happy with the

1434
01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:10.680
man that she loves in their own land, like yeah,

1435
01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:13.840
And in this way, they see her as a human being,

1436
01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:17.000
not just as a you know, property or piece of

1437
01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:21.119
you know, a tool to extension of themselves that they boss.

1438
01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:23.680
Around and you know, tell what to do at all times.

1439
01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:25.840
In the same way that the vampires are no longer

1440
01:09:25.880 --> 01:09:27.640
a tool of the white man, right right, they are

1441
01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:33.560
free and and yeah, so yeah, we found it, we

1442
01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:35.880
found it, we did we we came to it at

1443
01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:40.359
the end, our listener, the vampires were a prisoners similar

1444
01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:43.279
to the vacceos. They both did as they were told

1445
01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:44.159
to stay alive.

1446
01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:47.199
Oh so I only talked about.

1447
01:09:48.439 --> 01:09:53.159
But it is same for nest But yeah, same, same, same,

1448
01:09:53.319 --> 01:09:57.720
big right, and and she our listener mentioned all the vacchhetos. Yeah,

1449
01:09:57.720 --> 01:10:00.000
I was gonna say, some of the Vakettos didn't necessarily

1450
01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:04.279
volunteer for this militia. They were ordered to write exactly.

1451
01:10:04.479 --> 01:10:07.319
So yeah, that is a good point. Again, our listener

1452
01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:10.039
as saying it better than us to thank you, And

1453
01:10:10.119 --> 01:10:13.720
I'm not surprised. What did you think of the ending.

1454
01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:16.479
Do you think there is more of the story to

1455
01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:20.079
be told? I think there is, because I'm sure there

1456
01:10:20.119 --> 01:10:22.359
won't be. But in my mind, this could go on

1457
01:10:22.520 --> 01:10:26.880
because talked about a lot more, you know, monsters and

1458
01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:30.159
gestures and masters, the Google being out there and now

1459
01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:32.079
that they have their own land, like you know, I

1460
01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:34.239
don't know. They could just be gazing at the stars

1461
01:10:34.279 --> 01:10:37.600
one day and come across something and there's part two.

1462
01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:40.399
That's true. I was gonna, I was gonna say, I

1463
01:10:40.399 --> 01:10:43.520
think the story is complete. I don't think we need more. No,

1464
01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:47.680
because the main thing is also their love story and

1465
01:10:47.720 --> 01:10:49.800
they're together, so yes, it is complete.

1466
01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:50.319
I get that.

1467
01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:53.960
But I would love to see them finding supernatural creatures together,

1468
01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:56.840
like to me too. Yeah, so it is over, but

1469
01:10:56.920 --> 01:11:01.079
it doesn't have to be doesn't have to be over.

1470
01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:04.039
We can then see their children and she's also teaching

1471
01:11:04.079 --> 01:11:08.399
them to be or Raccuto's and vacctras and they're all

1472
01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:12.399
just this family of like fighting supernatural. Yeah, yeah, I

1473
01:11:12.439 --> 01:11:18.800
would love it. Okay, so our listener, but oh yes, okay,

1474
01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:23.680
thank you, Yeah, I get it. Okay, so our listener, Right,

1475
01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:25.760
I did like the ending after so much time apart,

1476
01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:27.840
nest soon and I realized they both wanted the same

1477
01:11:27.880 --> 01:11:29.880
thing and that they could rely on each other. And

1478
01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:31.800
then she said, I can't wait too or by the way,

1479
01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:33.800
I love these book discussions. I can't wait to listen

1480
01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:36.319
to the episode. And finally a year later, here we are, not.

1481
01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:37.359
A year, but.

1482
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:44.840
It's been a while, yes, months, Yeah, I'm sorry. So yeah,

1483
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:48.560
the end, we made it. Anything to add, We did

1484
01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:52.399
all the questions. No, let's rate it. Yeah, let's rate it,

1485
01:11:52.399 --> 01:11:54.880
all right, what's your rating? Five cucos out of five cucoats?

1486
01:11:56.239 --> 01:11:57.399
You were waiting for that.

1487
01:11:57.079 --> 01:12:03.279
I was gonna say rinches, And then I realized that

1488
01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:05.359
renchias are kind of terrible. So then I was like,

1489
01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:09.159
never mind, the riches are not a good thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1490
01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:12.640
so I don't know, five five cell containers out of

1491
01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:15.000
five cell containers, five out of five.

1492
01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:16.640
Yeah. I loved it. I loved it.

1493
01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:19.000
There's see a lot of like criticism that this isn't

1494
01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:23.000
a horror book, but you know, like we say many times,

1495
01:12:24.039 --> 01:12:28.000
horror doesn't have to be downright terrifying. The book has

1496
01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:31.840
scary moments. It does have scary moments. Yeah, and that's

1497
01:12:31.880 --> 01:12:37.359
all I need. I love a combination of different things yeah, like, yeah,

1498
01:12:37.399 --> 01:12:39.560
I love getting scared, but I also love a love story,

1499
01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:42.880
and I love a more prohibido love story. And so

1500
01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:50.039
this book has, you know, via more probibido selina kuanga, right,

1501
01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:54.479
it has that. It has you know, fighting war, vampires,

1502
01:12:54.680 --> 01:12:59.520
polonization history, endearing family relationships like Aguila, I love her,

1503
01:12:59.720 --> 01:13:02.479
I want her to be my other Abila, and also

1504
01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:06.760
the opposite of endearing family relationships.

1505
01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:07.119
Like the opposite of encanto. You know.

1506
01:13:07.439 --> 01:13:10.359
Yeah, this Abela rocks, not like the other Aila, and

1507
01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:12.840
a happy ending like what more can you ask for?

1508
01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:15.479
And in the end, the monster was not what you

1509
01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:18.640
thought it was. So yeah, that's why we rated it

1510
01:13:18.680 --> 01:13:21.239
five cucos out of five cuckos. So yeah, we have

1511
01:13:21.319 --> 01:13:22.920
reached the end of the episode. If you made it

1512
01:13:22.920 --> 01:13:26.199
this far. Wow, thank you. Oh my god, I'm starving.

1513
01:13:27.039 --> 01:13:29.359
Wow, I'm sorry for keeping starving.

1514
01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:32.760
All right, let's announce our next book before we go,

1515
01:13:32.920 --> 01:13:34.680
and so you can go eat.

1516
01:13:35.279 --> 01:13:40.720
The book's not by count. I thought you would look

1517
01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:44.399
up name. I didn't look up. His last name is

1518
01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:45.439
g o Ut.

1519
01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:49.800
Yeah, and the book is called Pinata and it is

1520
01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:52.399
shorter than this one from what I've seen. You know,

1521
01:13:52.439 --> 01:13:54.880
it's not a very long read. Maybe we'll get it

1522
01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:59.119
in three months instead of eight. Well, I need to

1523
01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:02.600
finish book maybe two books before I start that one,

1524
01:14:02.680 --> 01:14:06.000
so Jesus Christ. I need to finish Love in the

1525
01:14:06.039 --> 01:14:09.199
Time of Cholera, very weird book by the way, And

1526
01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:12.479
I started Queenie and never finish that either, so maybe

1527
01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:13.640
I should finish them before.

1528
01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:15.920
But that would be a quick read. Maybe you should

1529
01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:17.079
stop starting other books.

1530
01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:19.279
I'm just kidding. I do plan to stop after this.

1531
01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:24.319
Also never finished. You misrepresented my status of reading a

1532
01:14:24.359 --> 01:14:27.920
book in a previous episode, my bad and the previously

1533
01:14:27.960 --> 01:14:30.239
I did. I misrepresent a lot about you. When you're

1534
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:33.439
not on with me, I get a lot of things wrong. Misinformation, yeah,

1535
01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:34.479
spreading misinformation?

1536
01:14:34.600 --> 01:14:36.039
Are me me? Yes? Yeah?

1537
01:14:36.119 --> 01:14:39.479
I have to finish reading a book for known about

1538
01:14:39.479 --> 01:14:42.479
a crash in California. After that, I will reap be

1539
01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:45.119
at that. So honestly I'll be starting Piata that pretty soon.

1540
01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:47.119
So that is our book, the next book, and I

1541
01:14:47.159 --> 01:14:50.399
will be standing out in the newsletter. So yeah, if

1542
01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:52.319
you know you're not signed up for the newsletter and

1543
01:14:52.359 --> 01:14:54.439
you want to be, click the link in the show

1544
01:14:54.439 --> 01:14:56.880
notes that will just give you updates on when we

1545
01:14:56.920 --> 01:15:00.279
pick a new book, it'll send you the me I

1546
01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:01.079
will send you the.

1547
01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:03.439
I will send you.

1548
01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:06.680
The book club discussion questions and when about new book

1549
01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:08.760
is chosen as well as maybe I haven't done it,

1550
01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:12.000
but like a summary of our answers and newsletter form,

1551
01:15:12.079 --> 01:15:12.600
I don't know yet.

1552
01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:14.159
I don't know about that one. Probably not.

1553
01:15:14.279 --> 01:15:16.640
Actually it's a lot of work, just the new books. Yeah,

1554
01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:17.560
and the questions.

1555
01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:18.000
That's what.

1556
01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:20.640
Maybe if we had better answers, I could see the

1557
01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:24.000
word than that, but honestly we don't. Honestly, our listener

1558
01:15:24.039 --> 01:15:25.359
had better answers and I love that.

1559
01:15:25.439 --> 01:15:26.439
Yeah, me too. Yeah.

1560
01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:31.359
So yeah, if you want your answers included in these episodes,

1561
01:15:31.960 --> 01:15:35.159
send answer them in that newsletter. I also do these

1562
01:15:35.159 --> 01:15:37.800
posts on Patreon, where it's free for everyone to see,

1563
01:15:37.880 --> 01:15:39.920
so you can answer on there. The questions are not

1564
01:15:40.079 --> 01:15:42.800
like behind a paywall. This episode will be out free

1565
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:44.920
on there for free for everyone too. I don't know

1566
01:15:44.920 --> 01:15:46.199
why I'm saying that we're going to lose that on

1567
01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:48.720
AD so I'm just kidding. So that's gonna be there too.

1568
01:15:48.960 --> 01:15:50.920
And yeah, so that's another place where you can be

1569
01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:53.199
a part of the book club is Patreon, and that

1570
01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:56.239
part of Patreon is free the book club and I

1571
01:15:56.319 --> 01:15:58.079
said it before, but I still don't know how to

1572
01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:01.239
set it up where I want to do these discussions

1573
01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:05.760
live like with the Patreon members, so people can answer

1574
01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:06.359
on the SPA.

1575
01:16:06.439 --> 01:16:07.920
But again I don't know how to do that yet.

1576
01:16:07.960 --> 01:16:08.840
So we'll figure it out.

1577
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:11.880
And all right, Carmen's dying, so I will we will go.

1578
01:16:12.439 --> 01:16:16.720
So I don't know, make friends with vampires and you

1579
01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:19.840
know they're not the real monsters. Real monsters are lading,

1580
01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:23.439
just not the Googles. Yeah, we should make that a sticker.

1581
01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:27.079
All right, Stay spooky everyone, We'll catch you next time.

1582
01:16:27.279 --> 01:16:27.880
Bye bye.

1583
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:31.239
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