The Vampire of Monteros, Argentina and the Lady in White of La Pampa, Argentina

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Hi everyone. This is Christina and
Carmen and this is another episode of as

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Spooky Tales, the podcast for all
things a spooky, sometimes you crime,

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sometimes both today both all right,
and we're going to Argentina today for both

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of our stories. So Argentina,
Wow, mm hmmmm, it's been a

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while, I think, so that'll
be fun. But before we get into

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both cases that we have one scary
story or yeah, one hunter story,

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one oh my god, one part
normal, one true crime. Is what

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I was trying to say the whole
time, m I was wondering what you

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were saying, like I couldn't guess
as wondering what the fuck you were saying?

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What the fuck is she saying?
What am I doing here? Oh,

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we're good, Yes, that's what
we're doing. Anyway, before we

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get to that, I have a
listener story. And if you have a

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story you want to send to the
podcast, you can email at Spooky Toes

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at gmail dot com. You can
email I don't know where my brain is

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today, you know what, I
haven't taken my meds. You can call

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the number in the show notes.
Yeah, thank you, Carmen. You

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can call the number in the show
notes. The Spooky hotline, leave it

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in a voice smail, you get
us to record in your notes or whatever

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and email it. That's another way. When you call and of a story,

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it cuts off at either a minute
and a half or two minutes.

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So keep it short. Yeah,
keep either keep it short or you just

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know you're got to keep calling or
send it in one long recording via email

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that's probably easier, or you can
dm us that's an option too. On

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Instagram is the easiest place for that. And okay, I do have one

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update from our last story, last
episode with the sister. The little Demonic

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sister, oh Chata emailed me.
She let me know that her sister was

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two years old when that happened,
which, honestly, I don't know if

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that makes it better or worse.
I think that it makes it worse in

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the sense that maybe she was just
on top of her because she's a random

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two year old doing random two year
old things and she's not a demon.

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That's true. That's true. And
then she says she has had not asked

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her sister she remembers, but if
your so, she probably doesn't. But

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that makes you feel a little better
for chat that maybe, yeah, maybe

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your sister was just climbing on you. Like my monster of a two year

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old will just climb on me and
hit me in the face. He climbs

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all the time. Yeah, Like
I'm just sitting there and then next thing

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you know, he's climbing on me. So yeah, So maybe the sleep

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paralysis and what you saw in the
sleep paralysis just coincided with your sister doing

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that at the same time. But
she really wasn't possessed, and maybe there's

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more to it, like more stories
of shuit she did later that we don't

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know true. So yeah, that's
true, So we don't know. It

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could be either way, could still
be either one. Yeah, let us

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know. But I have a new
story that was sent in and I'm not

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sure if they wanted to stay anonymous, so I will. I'll keep their

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name out of it. But this
wasn't via email, So let's get into

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it. Hi, Spooky. I
enjoy listening to your podcast as it helps

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me get through my workday. My
story dates back to when I was a

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junior in high school and at the
time, my house was only a few

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blocks away from the school, so
I would occasionally walk to and from school

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every day, and during winter,
my friend would give me a ride.

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One winter day, when it was
time to head to school, my friend

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said they had gotten a flat tire
and were not able to pick me up,

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so I had to walk. It
was cold and foggy, and I

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remember passing by one of the nearby
alleys and seeing a lady with a long

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black coat with the hood, and
she had these long, flowy pants that

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looked like sweats. I assumed she
was homeless as she was leaned up against

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the backyard fence with their head down
and muttering stuff. But as I walked

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past the alley, she quickly looked
at me and stared me down. I

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didn't think anything of it until I
was out at lunch and I saw her

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again, standing in the middle of
the nearby residential street on the other side

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of the school fence, but the
cold stare directed my way. I thought

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maybe I just pissed her off and
that she was crazy. I started to

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get paranoid towards the end of the
school day, since my friends didn't have

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their car because of the tire issue, and I knew I had to walk

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home with the chance of running into
that lady again. Once school ended,

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I took a different way home,
where I knew there would be more traffic

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and people around, but for some
reason, there wasn't. I don't like

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that, Like the street should have
been busy and it wasn't. No,

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the fog seemed to have gotten thicker, so I called my girlfriend at the

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time to stay on the phone with
me until I got home. Once I

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was down the block, the call
failed and I kept hearing shuffling, but

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I couldn't see because of the fog. I had a feeling in my stomach

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like you get when you're on a
roller coaster. Ough, I hate that

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feeling. Yeah, me too.
I instantly felt sick, so I tried

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to hurry home and get signaled to
call my girlfriend back. Once I was

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getting closer to home, out of
nowhere, that same lady appeared and got

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really close to me to where I
could see. She had one blind eye

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and the other one looked normal.
Her teeth were very dark, and her

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face was dirty with scabs. She
had a polite voice and asked if I

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would help her find her dog.
Be the bad person and say no always

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and asked if I would help her
find her dog, which ran off towards

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the river. Nearby river which was
Stanislaus River. Are they in the two

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nine? Maybe? Is there another
status? I'm sure there's Sometimes they repeat

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names everywhere. You know what I
mean, true or true? There could

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be another Stanislaus Spike. They could
be here, yeah, I mean yeah.

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And she needed him back because she
was blind in one eye. I

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told her I wasn't able to because
I had to get home, and she

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offered me one hundred dollars and somehow
got me to say yes, even though

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I didn't want to. I just
blurted it out, and I felt myself

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starting to walk with her until a
lady who lived a few houses down.

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Her name was Rosa, came out
of her house, shining in Spanish,

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and she kept saying brujas. The
lady got startled and took off quickly and

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vanished in the thick fog. I
snapped out of this weird trance. Rosa

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came up to me and was saying
these prayers in Spanish. I don't speak

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or understand it, and she started
speaking in English when she knew I didn't

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understand, and kept asking if I
was okay and what the lady wanted.

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I told her what happened since the
morning and what she wanted, and Rosa

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said she was most likely going to
sacrifice me and then I should wear across

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and pray. I had a few
nightmares after that day and was always paranoid

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of seeing her again, so I
made sure I always had a ride and

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never walked again. I still think
about the witch lady, and I pray

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I never have another run in with
her again. Thank you for taking the

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time to read my story. I
hope you enjoyed it. You know,

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sometimes we hear like witch legends and
stories and it's like people are just being

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mean to the single old cat lady
and the neighborhood. Yeah, but this,

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this, I mean a little creepy. It was suspicious because even if

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let's say she wasn't a witch whatever, why does she run off when the

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neighbors started like shouting, you know, like she was if she didn't have

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ill intentions, she would have ran
away, Like if she truly needed help

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finding her dog, she'd be like, hey, I just need help finding

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my dog. Yeah, exactly.
Honestly, if this is like, if

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I were to believe which stories,
this is what other than where I'd be

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like probably yeah, if anything maybe
involved in human trafficking, I don't know

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which we know, we know that's
not how human trafficking cases a. But

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like it doesn't sound like she had
good intentions like you said, but she

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was up to something yeah something,
No, no, no bueno, no

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bueno indeed. So yeah, thank
you so much for sending that in.

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That's scary. All right. Uh, who's really wed? I already forgot,

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Carmen. I'm reading the crime.
You are reading the ghost story,

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and you are going first. Yes, thank you, thank you. All

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right, so yeah, let's go
on to our ghost story here. So,

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lady, in white stories, we
love them. They're everywhere, we

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do love them. Yes, yeah, yeah, I mean like La Yourna.

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Let's see one a. She's wearing
a white dress. Countless places and

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Argentina is no exception in La Pampa, which is a province in Argentina,

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in central Argentina. I should say, there's la dama, the blanco,

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the leading white in Spanish. The
dame is word, yeah, like the

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damon, like distress or is it
damsel? Oh wait it's damsel. I

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think you're right, yeah, damsel
because of her the dame name. That

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is a word. Okay, but
this would be like the damsel in white.

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I want to say, yes,
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guess we have the phrase the lady
in white. Let's just use it.

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Yeah, so yeah, the lady
in white. So according to let and

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I will also add that a lot
of these legends have a very similar story

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like backstory. Well, first of
all, she wouldn't be wearing white if

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she wasn't going to be a bride, you know what I mean, that's

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strictly referred to brides. So I
mean for not to And a lot of

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times we don't know her name,
you know what. Her name doesn't matter

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because she's just a woman. Yeah, you're right, So historically, I

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mean it doesn't matter. I don't
mean for me, it doesn't matter.

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I wish we knew all their names. I wish each lady and white had

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a name. Yes, anyway,
moving past that necessary so this story is

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of course no exception. So according
to legend and the Earth, early nineteen

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hundreds, there was a woman who
was being forced to marry a man,

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and she wanted to marry the love
of her life, but her family would

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not allow it. They never do
amordo amor pribido. Yes, so the

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love of her life he was not
in the same social class, and he

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this marriage if they allowed it would
bring shame to the family. So no,

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that was a hard pass. They
forbade it, and instead she would

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marry this other rich and respectable older
man. She didn't want to. She

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refused, and in a moment of
desperation, she dressed herself in her wedding

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dress and ran away. And they
found her hung from unkalden, a type

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of tree specific to this region.
So she was hanging from a tree when

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they found her, and it's on
Route one of La Pampa. So fast

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forward to today. Her spirit is
said to appear either on the tree when

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you're driving or on the road.
All these stories, it's always like she's

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like suddenly on the road, or
the very popular one where you're driving and

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first she's on the road, yeah, and then suddenly she's in the back

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of your car and then you fucking
crash because you're like ah yeah, yeah,

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ah, you crash and die.
Yes. So this is the same,

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similar and there's all the versions.
She's either on the tree, she's

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on the road, or she appears
in people's cars. There's the one woman.

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Her name is Yamile Lopez Uriarte.
She had heard all these stories before,

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and she never believed them. She
was a lawyer, she was busy.

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She's like, I'm too old to
believe these childish stories. Even as

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a child, she was like,
these are just legends, They're not true.

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And everything changed. On the twenty
sixth of November twenty seventeen, she

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was driving to visit her father.
This is a trip that she made all

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the time. She was on Route
one and while she was driving, she

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saw a woman on the side of
the road and she's like what She didn't

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think any of it, But then
she was driving and she saw her again,

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which is like, how is this
possible? First of all, like

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how does she make it there that
fast? Yeah? Exactly. So she

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pulls over, rolls her window down
and asks the lady like, hey,

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are you okay? Like maybe you're
cold, I don't know whatever, And

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the woman then out of nowhere,
turns to her and books it like sprints

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at top speed to her car.
Oh my god. Yea. Mila rolls

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her window up as fast as she
can and like speeds away. But she

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noted that the women had a rope
around her neck and her eyes Batasian barbadosos,

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which is is that like baggy eyes. I think, so okay,

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I always forget. So she yeah, speeds away as fast as she can.

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She books it, and she thought
she lost the women. She's like,

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oh, I'm safe, and then
she passes by a tree and then

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she's women hanging from the tree.
Oh my god, Oh my god.

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And when she passed by, saw
her on the tree, she was reaching

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her hands like on the tree,
screaming and reaching towards her car. That's

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scary. No, She's like,
join me. Oh my god. Oh

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I hated. I hated. And
when I read that, I almost threw

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up. I'm exaggerating. I did
get scared, though, Yeah, and

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Jamila was terrified. Luckily she didn't
crash or anything, but she did speed

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away. And to this day she
avoids that road. She either doesn't visit

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her dad or there's another way she
takes it. She's like, nope,

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you come to me now, and
now hopefully you don't see that lady never

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driving there again. Yeah, that
that creaked me out. That is scary.

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And like, I wonder if she
took that road often, Like why

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then you know, why did the
lady in white decided to show herself?

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Then you know she just wanted to
you know, yeah, she just felt

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like today I'm scaring her. No, but really I do. I do

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wonder what change, Like, I
wonder why why then if she had yeah,

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drivennus she I mean, yeah,
she's in her thirties. She's like,

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oh, she's been driving this road
for years now, Like why that

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night? Oh I don't know.
Yeah, I wonder if she has a

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choice, like of like a preference. I guess I should say, of

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She just chooses like oh this one says

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two instead of true. I heard
you a true crime case. I can't

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talk all right. So every night
from nineteen fifty three to nineteen sixty,

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police and Tukuman Monteros Argentina received frantic
calls from locals. They were calling claimed

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to see a vampire flying around town. Florencio Fernandes terrorized Montero's Argentina. He

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was known as the window Vampire.
Florencio Roque Fernandez was born in nineteen thirty

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five. The year and day is
not known. He was born into a

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very low income family and started having
aggression issues as a small child, and

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he was diagnosed as a psychopath at
an early age, and a little later

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in life, he was also diagnosed
with schizophrenia. I thought, you know

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I thought it was a thing that
you couldn't actually be diagnoscause you know,

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psychopath is not a diagnosis today,
right, yeah, like you don't,

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but it's technically anti social personality disorder, right yeah, And you can't be

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diagnosed as a child, right right, That's what I was going to say,

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Like, I thought that was a
thing you couldn't be diagnosed with until

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you were an adult. Yeah,
that's right. So but all all the

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news, well nobody gets it right
in the news of the media. Plus

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probably back then there was no different
and seen how they it's a new word

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thing, that's yeah, Yeah,
that's what I was wondering. But everything

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said that he was diagnosed as a
psychopath and at her at an early age.

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And I was like, I don't
know, you're like, one,

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not a diagnosis. Two if it
was a diagnosis, not something they diagnosed

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so bad with, Yeah, you're
right, it is. We need to

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stop here. I'm not gonna make
that noise again. I'm not either.

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Adults that are diagnosed with antisocial personality
disorder, as children are commonly diagnosed with

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the oppositional definance disorder. It's like
a precursor, I guess as children.

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Yeah, oh, I have.
I have read that. So his family

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couldn't afford medication for him, and
his schizophrenia went unmedicated. When he was

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fifteen, he went to see Dracula
by Todd Browning, the classic one with

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Bela Lugosi. Huh, that's funny. I was just watching Supernatural and they

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do a lot of references to like
horror movies, and even Linda Blair was

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And I didn't know this when I
was first watching this, but I asked

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me watching it. She played a
detective in one of the episodes. I

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didn't know that either. Yeah,
and then they had a character in the

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episode I just watched called Bela Lugosi. Oh that is random, Okay,

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interesting, it's probably a callback to
this. Oh of course it's Yeah,

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it's like the classic vampire movie that
kicked it all off. Actually we last

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Hello or last Valentine's Day. I
shared Valentine's Day cards for our on Instagram,

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and I put Bela Lugosi on one
of them. So, oh,

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I'll bring them back this year.
Yeah. Yeah, I forgot what I

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wrote on it, like the little
phrase that I made up for the card,

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but I know I used his image, So I'll bring this back this

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year because I made a couple of
fun once the past two years. But

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my brain is not working anymore,
so I can't think of any new cards,

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but I'll just share the same ones
like one go. Like my creativity

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it was all used up then for
that specifically, it's gone now. Yeah,

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I cannot think of any more Valentine's
Stay cards. So experts now believe

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that watching that might have cemented in
his brain that he was a vampire.

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This isn't confirmed, but it was
known that Florencio had hallucinations and delusions that

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made him believe he was a vampire. Instead of helping him, his family

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felt that he was too much,
too hard to handle, and they abandoned

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him. How sad. Yeah,
he was left without a home and he

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was forced to beg for money and
sleep in the streets to survive. He

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also suffered from photophobia, the fear
of light. I wonder which came first

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if he also always had photophobia,
and then maybe when he saw the Vampire

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movie then he was like, Oh, this is why I have photophobia.

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I'm a vampire. Yeah, maybe
he's reasoning me. Maybe he's like,

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oh, I can live like a
vampire. Also, in the darkness.

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Yeah yeah. I wonder if if
he already had that when he saw the

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movie. Maybe thinks the ponder.
Yeah yeah. So this led him to

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live in a cave in the outskirts
of Montero's, kind of like the Grinch,

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and he only came out at night, Unlike the Grinch. Unlike the

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Grin, he only came out to
steal Christmas. Yeah, and this probably

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enforced his delusions that he was a
vampire. One night in January, while

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everyone else was sleeping in Montero's,
Florencio, I thought you wrote Florencito,

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Florencio fco. Now we're not gonna
give nicknames to murderers. It does say

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Fencito, but that was a TYPEO. Oh my god, Florencio, Florencito,

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the vampire window killer not not cute. So Florencio left his cave and

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ventured into town. Although it was
January, it was very hot and everyone

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left their windows open. He climbed
into an open window into a woman's room.

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She was laying in bed. He
walked to her, stood next to

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her bed, and beat her with
the bat. He then bit her neck.

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The next day police found her.
She had suffered from head trauma and

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severe blood loss, and she died
on her bedroom floor. And at this

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point Florencio was only seventeen. Wow, that's it. And one wonders like,

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what if what if his family hadn't
abandoned him? You know, would

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this have so happened? If?
What if healthcare was free? Also that?

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Yeah, and he had been able
to get the medication he needed.

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Yeah, and maybe I don't know, just throwing this out there, but

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what if there was like some sort
of income that his family could have received?

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Wild hot here, I don't know, I don't know. It doesn't

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seem possible, Christina, So we
shouldn't even think of that truely, right,

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right, you're right. I'm just
saying that, like maybe maybe that's

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how you fix crime. Hm hm, Nope, seems too wild note.

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Yeah. The next month, another
woman was found dead in Montero's. She

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had also been bitten on the neck, was beaten, and had bled to

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death. Her trakya had been severed, and there was a bloody hammer and

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broomstick at the scene. It's horrible, horrifying, Griza, imagine coming across

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those like this is a small town
in Afganina. Yeah, just imagine coming

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across like back to back to like
crime scenes like this, Like I mean

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there was like panic. Yeah,
I no wonder they thought it was an

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actual vampire. Wait did they actually
think that? Uh? Probably? Newspapers

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started releasing headlines talking about the window
vampire. That answers my question. Yeah,

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I wrote these notes in case people
can't sell again, so it's not

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a surprise. But I'm like refusing
to answer your questions. And so when

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I watch shows and movies with anyone
but you, we are the worst people

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to watch movies and shows with.
Yeah, we are, because we'll just

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sit there and talk through everything.
Like my poor husband sometimes he just stops

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answering because he knows I'm not gonna
like some mine too. Yeah. Yeah,

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they have to be patient to put
up with this. So I forgive

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that they won't answer her questions.
But we're watching movies together aplout. I

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love it. I love it because
we're just yeah, I can't say I

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can talk any point. Sometimes we
had to rewind. Yeah, okay,

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back to this. People began panicking. They started leaving holy water at their

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windows and garlic to stop set a
vampire because they thought it was real funnly

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had helped and like, honestly,
if this was happening and there were no

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leads, nothing other than like we
think that this is a vampire, Yeah,

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I would have done the same thing, like yeah, yeah, about

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to start making steaks and wearing a
garlic necklace. Maybe I would have closed

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the window that too. Yeah.
Yeah, people thought they had seen this

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vampire flying. Oh. Actually it
brings back vibes of oh, I know

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the werewolf that bitch Richard Ramirez.
Oh I thought you were talking about the

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werewolf story that people thought there was
a were wolf in Uh, I forgot

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where in Mexico? Oh and Goita? Where? Yeah? Yeah, yeah

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that was in Mexico in Goita.
Oh okay that yaas? Yeah I think

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it was Chiapas. Yeah. In
twenty twenty, no, no, no,

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I was talking about Richard Ramirez.
Wasn't he the one that was like

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if the wind, the door was
unlocked or something was unlocked, that those

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were the people that he murdered.
Like hmm, isn't that him? I

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don't remember, could be though,
I think it was him. I think

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it was him, Like he was
like turget, like you know, oh,

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it was like all lower California.
And I'm pretty sure he is the

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one who like if the window was
unlocked or if there was a door,

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I don't I'm forgetting wrong because I'm
never covering this bitch, like I'm never

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talking about him. Yeah, yeah, there's enough out there. M m.

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But I'm pretty sure that if there
was a way in that was like

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not breaking something, he would go
in that way. And this this guy

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is the same, Like if the
window was open, like an opportunistic it

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was like, oh, I'm just
gonna go in this house. Mm hmmm

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hmm. Yeah. So Florencio Fernandez
was taking advantage of the hot nights and

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new people were leaving their windows open. The mountain of victims guru and police

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had no leads. Meanwhile, Florencio
was repeating the same routine for every victim.

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He would stalk a victim for several
nights, then would find the perfect

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moment to attack once the victim was
asleep. Women and Montero's were afraid.

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Newspapers were also really stories of sexual
abuse, though there was no evidence of

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any victims having been sexual be abused. He didn't strike every month. Sometimes

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it was once a month, other
times it was twice a month, but

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there was also times he would go
months without attacking. There was not much

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evidence left behind. I wonder if
forensics were just not there. Yeah,

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it could have not been because this
was what the nineties. Yeah, oh

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wait, no, it was the
nineties, nineteen fifty three to nineteen sixty.

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There was definitely no forensics so yeah, yeah, so that must have

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made it harder if there was a
witnesses. Yeah, and there was nothing

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they could do like otherwise, like
other than catch him in the moment or

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someone surviving and identifying him. Yeah. Yeah, damn. I wonder why

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he would go monce without but sometimes
you hear of that. Yeah, yeah,

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I wonder. Yeah, people in
Montero's began believing that a rich,

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smart man was behind the crimes.
They usually never are rich or smart,

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yeah, or if they're yeah,
let's rephrase, they're usually never smart at

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the very least. Yeah. Yeah, they're just it's just like opportunity for

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suistic and luck that they haven't been
caught. Yeah, they're only smart on

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TV shows. Whether it's just like
these this uh super intelligence in real life,

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it's not like that three steps ahead
of the handsome FBI and the show

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I've been watching Bones again. Still
you mean still? Oh no, no,

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no, are you started over?
Yes? Yeah, well no,

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okay, I started watching Criminal Minds, but then I've been listening to this

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uh podcast called the Bones Bones Booth
where they recap episodes. So sometimes I

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will rewatch the episode that I'm listening
to, but not all the time,

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so I'm not like rewatching again the
whole thing. But I did rewatch one

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episode of Bones because I have problems. So yeah. But all this to

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say that many time in the shows, the like super intelligent serial killers,

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like ten steps ahead of the yeah, people investigating him, and this that's

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not real life. In real life, they are just men. At least

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fifteen women had been attacked and killed, and still the police had nothing.

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There was nothing connecting the women other
than where they lived, which could be

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a clue itself. According to Criminal
Minds, it should have been a clue.

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They should have been like, we're
looking for someone that lives here in

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this neighborhood, someone nearby. He
might be able to fly. I'm just

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kidding. We're looking for a flying
man. He might have things in a

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case, he might be bela Lugosi. I don't know. He does resemble

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Dracula for women of all social classes
and ages were being attacked. Neighbors formed

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groups with shotguns, knives, and
steaks and would go searching for the vampire.

405
00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:00.599
Priests were brought in to bless and
protect homes from the vampire, and

406
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:06.680
people began buying giant crucifixes for their
homes. Finally, in nineteen fifty nine,

407
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:11.279
local Montero's police asked federal police for
assistance in the case. Federal police

408
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:15.200
mapped out the previous honestly, took
them too long, Yeah, it did

409
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.839
take them too long. The federal
police mapped out the previous crime scenes and

410
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:23.200
realized that they were all within a
specific radius, which happened to include the

411
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:27.640
cave Flordenzio lived in. Police decided
to monitor the area and set up in

412
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:32.720
operation to lure the vampire. Three
months after his last crime, he went

413
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:37.000
back out to look for his next
victim. As he was about to climb

414
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:41.720
into a woman's house, police that
were monitoring the area caught him and chased

415
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.279
him back to his cave, where
he was arrested. He was twenty five.

416
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:48.079
Damn, he was young, super
young. Yeah. Yeah. Police

417
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.880
were relieved to see that they weren't
dealing with an actual vampire, just a

418
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:57.319
mortal man. Yeah, though it
freaked them out when Flordenzio screamed as a

419
00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:03.799
light shined on his face to his
photophobia. I bet at that moment they

420
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.759
were like, oh, wait,
is he he might he might be bring

421
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.000
the garlic, the cross, put
the cross in his face, throwing water

422
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:17.079
at him. Wait does that work
up? Empires? Holy water remembers on

423
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:19.400
what you're reading. Okay, sometimes
and some stories it does, and other

424
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:22.880
another one, Oh, you're right
to it, and then they just laugh.

425
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.799
I do remember. Yeah, Oh
my god, this makes me think

426
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:30.000
of Salem's Lot. Did you ever
read Salem's Low? Or No? I've

427
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.640
never watched the show or the movie. Okay, the book is so scary.

428
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:37.319
There's a show and a movie and
a book. Sorry. Yeah,

429
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:45.839
there's a show from like the Stupid
there's a show from like the nineties,

430
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.440
and then two movies. One is
newer and one is older. And I

431
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:53.960
haven't seen anything about it, although
I've heard like mixed reviews on all the

432
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:57.839
things you can watch. But the
book horri fine, I'm gonna check that

433
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:04.119
book out. Yeah, yeah,
there is one part where I'm gonna spoil

434
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.480
things a little bit, but it's
a big book. I love spoilers.

435
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:12.559
I know. There's a priest and
he is like he loses his faith a

436
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:14.880
little bit. He's one of those
priests that doesn't really believe in what they're

437
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.440
doing anymore. And they're like,
you really have to believe. You have

438
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:22.160
to have faith if you're going to
come confront these vampires or whatever. And

439
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:25.160
so he's like, I can do
this. And he's like confronting one vampire

440
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:29.799
and they're like they just like laugh
in his face and then basically kill him

441
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:34.200
after. Oh my, he doesn't
have faith, and it's just so creepy

442
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:36.680
that he like brings out the cross
and they're just like, you think that's

443
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.720
gonna do something that also? And
I wonder, I'm sorry, I'm like

444
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:44.200
rambling. I wonder if do you
remember Thirty Days of Night? Oh?

445
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:45.799
I knew you were gonna say that, because I was just gonna say the

446
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:50.680
same thing you're about to say right
now. Yeah, you were when this

447
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:52.400
woman is like, oh my God, please, no God, there's no

448
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:58.680
God here. That that a moment
scared me so much. That was so

449
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.720
scary. It haunted me for years
after that so much that I haven't watched

450
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:05.920
that movie. Again, I haven't
either. Sometimes I think about rewatching it

451
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:07.599
and I'm like, man, this
is one of the movies that really creep

452
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.440
me out. Yeah, and I'm
sure now I won't scare me as much.

453
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:15.640
Yeah, but I also love the
main character, Josh Harnett, the

454
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.000
main actor. Yeah, I would
rewatch it for him. So I'm like,

455
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.799
I should rewatch it. Yeah,
yeah, we should rewatch it together.

456
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:27.200
Actually, let's wait. Oh yeah, there's strengthen numbers and we can

457
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.400
watch it together. It'll be less
scared. Yeah. Yeah, And you

458
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:35.400
know what, I'm curious to know
if we're just babies about this specific movie

459
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:37.480
scared anyone else as much as it
did. I'll run a pole when this

460
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:43.079
episode comes out, Okay, on
Instagram to let us know, because I

461
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:45.440
love to find out. That's what
the vibes. Yeah, I almost wonder

462
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:51.599
if that moment and three Days of
Night was maybe inspired by Simone's loot.

463
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:55.880
Maybe it's a little related. Yeah, very creepy, same vibes be anyway,

464
00:33:55.960 --> 00:34:00.079
Sorry we went a little off track
here, let's yeah, okay.

465
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:06.319
And then as police searched the cave, they found that this was actually Floadincio's

466
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:10.360
home. Florentio was sent to a
psychiatrist before his trial and was diagnosed with

467
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:16.559
schizophrenia and photophobia. He probably never
even has h antisocial personality disorder. No,

468
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:22.119
probably just those two things. Yeah, because I mean if I thought

469
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:27.639
the first like signs of schizophrenia showed
up like in like teenage years, but

470
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:31.920
I mean there's probably different manifestations.
I'm as who mean, but like if

471
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.719
they don't know what they're dealing with
and they're uncontrolled, Yeah, he could

472
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:40.400
have been like showing these like aggressive
behaviors that scared his family and then they

473
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:46.800
abandoned him. Yeah. Florencia was
also subjected to an exorcism, as locals

474
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:52.599
believed he was possessed. Hmmm,
that doesn't surprise me. Yeah. The

475
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:57.519
fact that enforcement like agreed to do
it, or like law enforcement agreed to

476
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:00.760
do it is like a little silly, I guess. Yeah, it was,

477
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:07.440
uh in this timeframe, the nineteen
fifties or sixties. Yeah, I'm

478
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:10.079
like, okay, I could see
it happening, but I'm like why still

479
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:15.519
Yeah. Yeah, he was declared
unfit for trial by way of insanity and

480
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:20.239
was taken to a mental institution.
He died eight years later in nineteen sixty

481
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:23.800
seven at that mental Institution of Natural
Causes. There's a rumor that he never

482
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:29.239
stopped believing he was a vampire and
was killed while trying to buy another patient.

483
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.760
Well that's sad, yeah, obviously, I mean horrible. He killed

484
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:36.960
so many people, but it didn't
need to happen, like, yeah,

485
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:42.599
like maybe it could have been prevented
had he received the right treatment and been

486
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:45.360
instead of being shunned by his family, been supported through it, you know.

487
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:52.000
Yeah, and then if they had
again any financial ability to continue paying

488
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:57.400
for the medication, not even continue
they didn't even ever have it. Yeah,

489
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.760
they never had it. Yeah,
So yeah, just very tragic and

490
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:04.239
like, yeah, it could have
been prevented, lives could have been safe.

491
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:08.639
Yeah, but yeah, I'm just
horrifying. Yeah, yeah, I

492
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:17.880
guess that's the end of our episode. All right, any spooky recommendations,

493
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:25.360
No, because I have been doing
nothing but listening to the Bones Booth podcast

494
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:32.039
in my free time. Or yeah, I started rewatching Criminal Minds, which

495
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:36.880
can be a speaker recommendation. There's
some creepy episodes in there. Yeah,

496
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:42.119
yeah, did you ever listen to
that Criminal Minds? Rewatch podcast. Yes,

497
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:45.719
I have not gotten past season one
though, because I forgot about it.

498
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:51.239
Oh okay, but I love it. Yeah, it's funny. I

499
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:55.000
love rewatch podcasts as maybe people might
have guessed I'm not. But that's another

500
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:59.840
really good one. Yeah. Their
song is so funny too, a white

501
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:07.159
man Ala Schmidt from New Girl.
Yeah, hilarious. Yeah. I also

502
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:12.920
don't have a spooky recommendation because I'm
so watching Supernatural. I do have an

503
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:16.480
email from someone who sent in a
spooky recommendation. Ooh, and that was

504
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:21.679
new But I welcome it. I
do. Yeah, because we because we're

505
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.840
gonna keep you watching the same stuff, like, so send your recommendations.

506
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:31.639
You're spooky recommendations. Yeah, let
me see. So I'm not gonna read

507
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:36.360
their story, but I do have
did I open the run email? Oh

508
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:38.599
okay, I have. They send
an email and then send a second email.

509
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:42.480
I'm going to read the second email
because that's not the story. So

510
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:45.599
thank you, Gracie. She said, Hi, y'all again, this is

511
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:49.119
not a story but a spooky recommendation. I'm an avid reader, and I

512
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:54.119
just read this book called Candelaria by
Melissa Losada Oliva. I've heard of that,

513
00:37:54.519 --> 00:38:00.840
have you I have not. Yeah. Yeah, she's a Colombia Guatemalian

514
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:06.119
writer poets. This book is based
off a poem she wrote about a nana

515
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:10.960
in oh In Apocalypse, sorry,
that was a struggle to a lot of

516
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:15.320
words. There are a lot of
yeah, yeah, our letters, I

517
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:17.519
guess, not words. Anytime I
have to read Apocalypse, I'm going to

518
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:23.800
struggle. Yeah. It's also about
family and belonging and love. It's a

519
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:27.960
great book, but it's spooky and
Corey and then she said, I just

520
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:34.119
wanted to be part of the spooky
recommendations this week, and I love it.

521
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.880
I love it. I will welcome
all spooky recommendations. This sounds like

522
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:43.639
a book I would love. Yeah, so it does. Add let's read

523
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.159
it and not add it to the
list because it takes so so long to

524
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:49.840
get through the list. You could
just read it and then we could add

525
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:54.079
it on and later, you know, we should add it on to after

526
00:38:54.239 --> 00:39:00.079
Vampires of Orte, which is our
current book club read. I have not

527
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:04.920
sent out the mass email announcing it
yet because we still have to record a

528
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:07.840
normal book club episode. Yeah,
yeah, but we're gonna do that,

529
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.079
which we will actually do. Yeah, we will actually do it this week.

530
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:16.400
Before we forget even more about what
we read read it. Yeah,

531
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:19.519
yeah, but I will, we'll
do that. We'll do that. And

532
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:22.360
yeah, our current book is Vampires
Vent Northe and maybe we'll add that as

533
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:28.119
the book after you know that recommendation. It sounds fascinating. I love apocalyptic

534
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:31.119
stories and shows. Yeah, and
shows and movies I'm just kidding, and

535
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:35.559
all zombie things. There's another book
I wanted to add to the It's in

536
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:38.280
the list. We have a list
of a Google talk with all the books

537
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:40.960
that I'm like, I've been added
on. But Tender is the Flesh.

538
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:46.159
Oh, it's one that I want
to read eventually to if anyone I listen

539
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:52.079
to the Susto episode about Yeah,
that's what I was gonna mention just now,

540
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.159
like, I don't you should be
listening to Susto if you're not,

541
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:58.800
I know a lot of our listeners
do. Yeah, Maddie, Yeah,

542
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:00.960
but yeah, he aiden read it
and he did a review, like a

543
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:06.519
spoiler free review. I feel like
that's hard. It is hard. I

544
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.960
can't do it. I couldn't do
it. Spoiling things. Yeah, we

545
00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:19.840
love spoiling things and talking, so
yeah, we're gonna spoil things. But

546
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:22.320
he did one, and so if
anyone wants to like get an idea of

547
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:25.400
the book, that would be an
amazing thing to listen to to do that.

548
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:28.519
But yeah, that is on our
list. I really want to read

549
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:35.440
it because I think it's posts up
apocalyptic sort of too. I think it's

550
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:39.239
dystopian dystopian. Thank you that I
confused the too. Yeah yeah, I

551
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:44.840
feel like dys is what happens after
the world ending event, you know what

552
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:49.119
I mean? So oh yeah,
yeah that makes sense. Yeah, good

553
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.159
point. That's why you're the one
with the degree, not me exactly.

554
00:40:52.559 --> 00:41:00.480
I am an educated Latina and educated
latinam yes, so yeah, this brings

555
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:02.000
us to the end of the episode. Thank you so much for listening.

556
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:07.800
Thank you. Oh also thank you
to everyone first leaving reviews, but second

557
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:09.920
interacting with us, like on the
Spotify, like what you think of that

558
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:14.719
episode? Those are always fun to
look at and post unless you are mean

559
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:15.920
in them. I don't post them. I just read it though, I

560
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:22.880
read everything. So yeah, thank
you for everyone for that. And I

561
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.840
hope to be a little more active
on Instagram one day. I always forget

562
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:29.199
to post things and then I'm like, oh I should post this, and

563
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:32.519
then yeah, I feel you on
that one. From our other podcasts.

564
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:37.400
The place I'm most active is TikTok. But sometimes I will dis ignore TikTok

565
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.840
for days because I'm something a comment
annoys me and then I don't look at

566
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:45.840
it for days. And I for
the spooky Tales TikTok. I post things

567
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:52.440
for Estoya's Unknown and as Spooky Tales. Sometimes like right wingers will find my

568
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:57.280
history stuff and just like Bombard,
oh wow, so like us say,

569
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:00.000
you wus say? And then I
like, I need to stop taking so

570
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:05.320
personal and like repine, yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, that's the biggest

571
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:09.239
issue. But apparently I'm like rambling. Now there's a thing called a rejection

572
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:16.519
sensitivity dysphoria. Oh you definitely have
that. Oh I was where was I

573
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:21.239
reading about that? I forgot where
I was and I was like, damn,

574
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:25.039
that's Christina, Like how you crying
when Mammy would give you a look.

575
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.320
That's why I'm starting to think I
don't actually don't have ANDHD, well,

576
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:37.400
not everyone with the the experiences or
st and I only experienced it when

577
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:40.400
it comes to our mother and like
certain things, not every little thing,

578
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:45.440
but like reviews is a or nasty
comments I will literally not open a nap

579
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:50.079
for like a week because someone left. And I did do that though,

580
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:57.559
when we were bombarded after posting that
thing about the creepy man about the men

581
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:01.360
dating teenagers, and all of the
disgusting men came out of the woodwork to

582
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:07.360
defend this disgusting behavior, and I
ended up deleting because of a few of

583
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:12.599
them commented on other things on other
posts, and then I had pictures.

584
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:15.519
We had pictures on there, like
of like your kids and like whatever,

585
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:20.159
so I deleted those because I was
like I don't want them to see this

586
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:24.840
at all, or like yeah,
go anywhere near it. And then yeah,

587
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:29.679
I was horrible. It was like
a whole week long. Yeah I

588
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:34.239
forgot about Yeah. Yeah, so
it's rough out here for uh, for

589
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:37.360
me on social media sometimes, I
know, and I think ever since well,

590
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:40.199
I mean I was really bad at
it before also like keeping up with

591
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:47.880
posts for no one, and I'm
even worse now. So yeah, so

592
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:51.599
sometimes I'm like, I'm gonna be
more active so interact with everyone, but

593
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:54.119
then I'm like, I don't I
do message people back fast they messages bookis

594
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:57.719
I'm sure they've noticed, but yeah, I don't know why this started,

595
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:00.920
but yeah, we're supposed to be
done. I don't know what happened.

596
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:05.760
I don't know how we got here
anyway, Thanks for listening and close your

597
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.880
windows, bring out the cross in
the holy water, Yes, yes,

598
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:15.679
and say spooky. We'll catch everyone
next time. Bye bye. Spooky Tales

599
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:21.840
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600
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:27.480
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601
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602
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can also find some of the same videos

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posted on Instagram and that is at
spooky Taels. Everything is linked in the

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show notes. If you want bonus
episodes, stickers, exclusive stickers, might

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I add then consider joining our Patreon
go over to patreon dot com slash spooky

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Tails. There are over at least
fifteen bonus episodes right now, and we

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do at least one a month,
sometimes two, depending on how we are

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feeling. If you want to support
the podcast and don't or can't or don't

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want to, that's fine, Join
the Patreon then consider getting some merch.

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We have an adorable beanie that I
love. I absolutely adore it. It's

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so comfy, it's warm, it
has a spooky in Old English letters.

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There's also a baseball hat in the
same way as spooky and Old English letters,

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and that's what I wear in the
summers. They're both awesome hats.

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And there's other things in there,
like the no Mama's shirt, which is

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a very popular shirt. If you
like history, check out my other podcast,

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Estodia is Unknown, hosted with the
unofficial official guest co host of a

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Spooky Teals, Carmen, And if
you like no VELAs, checkout Novelaskofuzito,

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which Carmen and I also host together. And yeah, we love every single

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listen every single a spooky Thank you
so much, Stay as Spooky