The Trevi-Andrade Case Part 1

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Hello, Christina Here, before this
episode starts, I do want to give

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a trigger warning. We are discussing
the case of Serio Andreve and Gloria Trevi.

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If you're familiar with the case and
you know that it involves things that

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need trigger warnings. Teenagers were abused
physically and sexually, so we're going to

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talk about what happened in the case. So just start trigger warning for child

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abuse rape. If you can listen
to that, feel free to skip this

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episode and we will catch you on
the episode after after this, because after

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this we're going to talk about Part
two and it's going to be more of

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the same stuff. Hi. Everyone, this is Christina and this is another

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episode of As Spooky Tales, the
podcast for all Things as Spooky and no

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MJ or Carbon Ladies. Here,
Lenny Hubbs back in the building. Yes,

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she is now the official co host, not guest co hosts mm hmmm.

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Oh wait my bad, No,
oh my god. I could never

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official guest co host. When I
trying to start a war, yeah,

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I'm Jay's been having computer problems and
doesn't have anything to record out of And

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then when I ask Carmen, I
learned that she lost her voice because she

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went to the Vesa Me Mucho concert
that happened in La over the weekend,

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and yeah, she doesn't have a
voice. She sounds like don't dunk.

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And I was like, I can't
even hear you talk right now because I'm

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like, this is so unserious.
You sound terrible and I can't even listen

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to you anything you're saying right now. Oh my god, a ghost to

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her voice or I cursed her.
We'll never know. We'll never know because

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she's here for her spot. So
yeah, Laney, I asked you like

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last minute, and thankfully she was
like, yeah, I have time.

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Oh I always have time. I'm
clocked in for my shift, baby,

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thank you, thank you today.
We I don't know why. Oh,

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I guess I had been wanting to
talk about this topic forever. But there's

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so much to it, and it
was almost daunting to like even start researching

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it. Yeah, researching it.
But it's the Gloria Trevi Serio Andred like

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cold. I guess it was a
cool Yeah, I mean truly I would.

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It's you know, it reminds me
of the Twin Flames thing, right,

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have you seen that documentary or anything? Yes? I have. It

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makes me think of R Kelly.
M hm. Oh, that's an even

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better example. Yeah, that's almost
almost very similar. It's you know,

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yeah, the Mexican R Kelly shout
out, not a good not a good

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book for us, shut up,
not good for my people in particular.

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Right, yeah, yeah, I
remember watching like as a kid, just

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parts of like Ventanando. Did you
ever watch that show? No? Okay,

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well, it's like a Mexican gossip
show. It was on every day,

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like I don't know, two,
three in the afternoon something like that,

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and they just shared all the gossip, all the tea. Patti Cha

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Boy was one of the four hosts, and I don't remember the other three

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name the other three, just her
because she was like the most iconic to

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me. But I feel like they
were a huge and just sharing all the

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things they were hearing about. And
Gloria on the trial. M h That's

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most of what I remember about it. And then at some point she was

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also on the show Christina di Jiroach
defending and all like two thousand, late

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nineties before they were arrested in like
Brazil. But we we'll get into all

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that. But how do you feel
about Gloria Trevi? You know, I

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really didn't have a lot of exposure
to her in terms of like my awareness

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of her when I was little and
stuff, because we I mean like Selena

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was it for me most of the
time, and I was listening to Sahano

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music more than anything else when I
was younger, like do Hana was it

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for us in my house and everything, Like I was listening to Bronco and

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all that stuff. So I didn't
really have a ton of exposure until I

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was slated to do this episode.
Like I had heard of her obviously,

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and same for Sergio. I'd heard
about both of them, And then when

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I was slated to do this episode
for Crimes of Passion, I was all

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like, what, Like this is
crazy. Yeah, And I got a

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lot of feedback, like from my
mom and like different family members who had

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heard it and stuff, and they're
like, oh yeah, you know,

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like with Crimes of Passion, you
don't really go a super in depth with

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anything. I'd liken it to like
a Lifetime Movie Network movie. It's like

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the audio version of a Lifetime Movie
Network. So it really focuses on like

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the drama, the psychological aspect of
things, and then just the the interpersonal

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stuff that's going on between these two
people mostly, but and it really didn't

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talk about truly the effects that linger
after going through something like this. And

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so I would love, honestly to
see like a long form documentary on this,

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because this is something that's really I
think pro within the music industry.

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It's not isolated too obviously, you
know, the Spanish side or anything like

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that, I think in Western music
and maybe even beyond that, it for

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sure is super prevalent. Yeah,
yeah, I I didn't know any of

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this, like obviously until it all
started coming to light in the Spanish news

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and we were watching it as it
was coming out. But I didn't understand

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it because I was a kid.
But I'd been listening to her music for

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a long time. Like there's a
song, what's it called something about having

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your hair down? Is like the
name of the not that's not the name

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of the song because that's way too
long. It's called Pelosto. It may

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be just called Pelosto. But that
was like one of our favorite songs because

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we had like, you know,
big curly hair and we were just singing

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and dance to it and like rock
our hair back and forth. And uh,

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before it was cool, Yeah,
before Willow Smith did it and all

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my dieas like everyone like loved her
music and yeah, everyone left her music.

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She was like this, I mean
like Madonna, she was yeah for

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Mexico. Yeah, And I mean
even now I listened to her songs and

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I'm like, man, that's so
crazy that this happened, like I don't

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know it is. And she was
super young too, So there's a lot

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of like, I think, a
lot of levels. Yeah. I think

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everybody, in their own way,
minus Sergio, is a victim in this.

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Even Gloria, I would say,
for sure, but she still has

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some accountability, I think, or
she needs to have some accountability. Yeah.

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But before we get into the episode
topic, I guess a spooky story

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A listener story. Yes, Oh
my gosh, I'm so excited. I

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thought I would come to the table
with a spooky story from one of my

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listeners. Her name is Amelia.
She submitted a story back in September over

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this and so it was one of
those stories. I think when you get

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those, they stick with you for
a little bit. Ooh. I don't

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know about you, but for me, I love when people send in their

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story. Is like actually to like
our email or through the social media channels

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because it shows like they're invested in
your show. They are excited about wanting

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to hear it when I listened to
and that's why we drink or two Girls,

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One Ghost and stuff like way back
in the day, I sent in

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my stories and I was like amped. I was like, oh my god,

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I hope they read it so like
there's an excitement too, and yeah,

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yeah, I always want to like
give people that same feeling that I

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had when I was reading my story. So I literally like, if you

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send it in, I will read
it. It may not be like the

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next episode, but it will definitely
be in the episode at some point it'll

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make it in. Yeah. So
this is the story from Amelia, and

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she said, ever since I was
little, I've had a strong connection with

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the paranormal. I have photographic memories, so it makes it easy to remember

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these things when I wish I could
forget. I vaguely remember when I was

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two. Two. Oh, I
know, I have no memories of two.

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I saw different entities or spirits,
whatever you want to call them.

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The first was a little girl,
I called her little. She would stand

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at the top of the stairs and
scream, and she would stand in corners

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and scream, oh my god,
and I'd be like, no, thank

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you. Can you imagine how scare
you would be? Too? Like my

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kid is too right now, and
I'm like, I would hate if she

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was seeing something like that. I
have a two and a half year old

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now and I can't even put him
pointing like little and I'm like, what

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are you putting out? What the
fuck? I would little? Who?

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Who? My daughter did that recently, not saying little, but she she

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has like night terrors and stuff,
and she always like wakes up when she's

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asleep and talks. And she sleeps
just like my husband, like he sleep

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talks everything, so she's just like
him. But she got up one day

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she was like dead asleep, and
she's I have her bed in my room

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because I'm just one of those moms. I'm like, you can sometimes sleep

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with me, or you can sleep
in real bed. Yeah, But she

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like straight up woke up bed of
a dead sleep, not really awake.

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Her eyes were still closed, but
she like sits up in bed and she

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goes, what's that and goes lin
Lea's back down. I was like,

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well, that was probably a ghost. I mean, what do you want

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me to say? What do you
want me to say? So I was

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terrified. I was like, oh
my god. Oh. I was like,

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there better not be anything here.
And I was just like, leave

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my baby alone if there is something
here, because I'm trying to sleep.

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Yeah, oh my god, it's
crazy. Okay, so she goes.

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There was also the gray Man.
He had a bluish grayish green. He

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had a bluish grayish greenish green,
Oh my god, skin tone right though

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it was mostly gray. He has
serious balding with his white hair, and

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he had fingernails maybe seven or eight
inches long, that curled inward. He

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would poke my palms and my feet
when I was asleep, but when I

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would wake up, I would only
see him for a split second. When

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I was four, I started to
remember things very clearly, so I still

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remember this like it was yesterday.
I was watching Me and My Arrow,

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a movie from the seventies, even
though this was the early two thousands.

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There was a scene in the movie
about a pile of rocks called the rock

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Man. Since he was so tall, he could point you in any direction

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of where you needed to go.
And went to bed after the mo and

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woke up the next morning looking to
my right out of my window. I

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lived right next to Beaumont, Texas
at the time, in some really bad

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apartments. I guess you could say
I'm from the ghetto, not sponsored.

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Same this is not sponsored by the
ghetto. Oh okay, I thought,

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I always say I joke about that
because I'm like, you know, I

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was like, some people were like, this isn't sponsored. I'm like,

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not sponsored. The ghetto is not
sponsoring this. These apartments were so poor

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that at some points random people would
walk into the apartments. But when I

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woke up that morning, I heard
the voice of the rock band saying the

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first line he said in the movie, I Am the rock Man. I

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sat still. I am the rock
Man. I heard once more in the

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same tone, and I asked hello
in a louder, angrier voice. I

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heard, I am the rock Man. I calmly jumped off my bed and

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went to my accordion door closet.
There was no one. I walked out

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of my room to my mom and
told her what I had heard. She

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said, you were probably still have
a sleep in imagining things. So I

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thought so, but I was still
creeped out. At around noon, I

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walked back into my room and heard
it in its original calm tone. I

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am the rock Man, I told
my mom again, and she just ignored

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me. I only went back into
my room that night to sleep, and

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I didn't hear it since. But
ever since that night, I've always got

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the gut wrenching feeling that something's watching
me. To this day, I try

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to calm myself thinking it was another
creepy old man in the apartment. But

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how is his voice the same as
the rock Man? Why couldn't I see

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him when I looked in my closet
the end? Who me? No?

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Did you ever watch like Unsolved Mysteries
and stuff? Yes? Okay, So

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there was this really prominent ghost story
that happened in terms of like, you

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know, a child having a ghost
experience and stuff like that, and seeing

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a person who had died in that
house, I think. And then and

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they did some research found out he's
a real guy, mister Gordy. Did

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you listen to that one? Okay? Right? And then that family was

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like all over all of the other
like paranormal channels doing like my kids haunted

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kind of things, and they were
always talking about it. So that story

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always like stuck with me, and
I was all like, oh, my

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god. I hope my kid never
has a mind like a mister Gordy who's

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like pushing her on a swing or
something. I was like, we ain't

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having a swing set at this house. You guys know that here? No,

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no, So it kind of reminds
me of that, Like it gives

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me like, I feel really bad
for Amelia because you know, I think

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having paranormal experiences when you're that young
and you can't really understand absorb the gravity

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and understand what the issue is or
why it's happening, I think that makes

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it really confusing, and it also
makes you question as you become an adult

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your experience, right, it makes
you think like, oh did I make

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it up? And I wish like
her mom would have validated her a little

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bit, you know, but different
different times. I mean it was early

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two so at that time, you
know, everybody was just like go to

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sleep. Yeah. Well, I
mean even today, if my kid comes

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and tells me that, sure,
I would love to val to him,

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but I wouldn't be scared shitless myself. So I throw up and be like,

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I don't know, I don't feel
like I guess we're burning it down?

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Does that work? De fire?
Help. I deny it too.

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You sound nothing actually right, you
were just sleeping. Oh my gosh,

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what about dream? But no,
I could see. That makes it worse

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and we're confusing because then later you're
like, did I really see something or

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was it just my imagination? But
that's so weird that it was the same

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voice as the movie she had just
been seen. Yeah, it most makes

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you think it's like a mimic,
and it was just like because they're horrible.

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Look. Yeah. No, So
that was my contribution to the show.

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I will see you guys later.
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I'll just tell you're like, so
what do you think about Glrie trev Yeah,

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let's let's get into the top.
So Gloria Trevi, like I said

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earlier, she was like the Mexican
Madonna. Still she's still making music.

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She was at that best I'm much
concert. Oh shut up, yeah,

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yeah, I'm pretty sure Carmen says
she saw her. Wow, it's so

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I don't know because you listen to
it and you're like, people are like,

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oh, you have to separate the
artists from the music. Well they

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say that about MJ too, Yeah, but you also have to think she

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was also abused too, but then, like you said, she also has

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some accountability to go through herself.
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she does, And that's what I'm
saying, Like it is really hard to

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distinguish from you know, like I
think, like I hate using the MJ

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thing, but this is kind of
the same in the same instance that like

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MJ was never he was prosecuted but
never convicted of anything. Same for Gloria,

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Like they go through a whole trial
and she's not convicted, even though

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they had like lawsuits recently, I
think, and there's a recent one from

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this summer. I want to say, yeah, yeah, So it's like,

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you know, it's still I think
if MJ was alive today, he

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would still likely be going through the
same process of like every few years,

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you know, a new allegation or
new claim or somebody trying to get something

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out of him. But you can't
deny the impact their talent has had on

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the music industry and the culture,
right, Like, yeah, it sucks

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that he had this kind of terrible
history, saying for Gloria, like it

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sucks that they had this history,
but they did impact the culture, and

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I think you can, yeah,
appreciate the impact without praising the individual beautifully

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said that is very true. But
her music it's always been very political.

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It was filled with sexual innuendos,
which was like culturally shocking at the time

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because nobody was really doing that,
which is I think why she's like compared

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to Madonna, who was doing the
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She talked about religion, human trafficking, war, drugs. She would

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invite men onto stage and then like
take their clothes off, have them on

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stage and just their underwear. All
the older Mexican moms are like, oh,

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she's a she's a slut. Yeah, she's a Slut's this is a

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bad influence, while like everyone like
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at the time, were just they
loved her, all about her. Yeah,

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she empowered them, you know,
she gave them an opportunity to to

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really own their sexuality, which women
are shamed for quite you know generously in

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our Hispanic culture, is what I
would say, especially it doesn't discriminate across

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you know, the border, if
you will, but we deal with a

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lot more misogyny in our culture than
I think, you know, across the

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you know, in the Western side
or whatever. There's still a misogyny,

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but it's not as I think intense
as it can be within our own culture,

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where you're like, you're expected to
do things just because you're a girl,

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and it's totally fine if you're not
allowed to do something like just in

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general, if you have an older
siblings, like, yeah, of course

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the boys can date and go and
do whatever. You can't because you'll get

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pregnant and ruin your entire life and
ruin our family's reputation. Yes, And

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it was just so wild to think
that she was speaking on all these things

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and then behind doors she was a
victim of the patriarchy herself and abuse from

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a man. It's it's wild,
like it's difficult to comprehend even but she

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was at the top of her I
don't know career when in nineteen ninety six

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or seven. I want to say
it was ninety seven, but when she

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was arrested when she quit turing and
they it was under the guise of helping

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her, producer said Hendrade recover from
cancer and they went to Spain, so

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she went basically into hiding and that's
what they told the media at the time,

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but just to talk a little bit
about Glare. She was born Gloria

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de Los Angeles Trevino Ruiz on February
fifteenth, nineteen sixty eight. She was

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the oldest of five siblings and she
wanted to be a star. Her parents

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were divorced and in nineteen eighty she
left her home to go alone to Mexico

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City, and she paints a picture
of like she was alone, disowned by

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her family for disobeying and leaving,
and she had like nothing, But there's

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there's accounts that her mom and her
dad were paying for her apartment in see

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that, Mexico, and they did
go visit her, but they did let

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her like they let her go by
herself. But she wasn't completely abaddond like

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she makes it seem that she was
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or doing all these crazy things alone, like she she had support. There

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are definite holes in her story for
sure, in continuity. Yeah m hm,

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but you know what, she had
a picture to paint, you know.

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So there was a contest held by
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I remember and Luceito Lucero, she's
another artist. She was like this

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teen star, but sat and was
her producer, and he was obsessed.

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He was obsessed. He was disgusting. But now we know why. Now

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we know why. Back then nobody
knew why. And so I almost want

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to say he was actually the one
who put this contest together to find like

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a Lucerito lookalike, but that could
be wrong because he was working at the

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Levisa putting together shows like for artists
to come and sing yes. So the

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way that happened was she was in
like a talent school at the time in

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Mexico City, and she knew that
her she was, you know, she

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was looking for jobs to hopefully like
break into the entertainment industry. She was

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really talented and stuff. And her
mom like not for nothing. I mean,

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well, you know, her mom
had a background as a dancer and

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stuff, and so she really kind
of pushed Gloria. I think this kind

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of this victimization starts started at home
in terms of with her mom and stuff.

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this, you know, relationship with

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Sergio. But like her mom was
a former dancer and all this stuff.

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And it's that classic story of parents
who didn't make it wanting to live through

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their children and pushing them to make
it. Oh, vicariously lived through their

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children. It's like that baseball dad
who's like, you got to practice every

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day because I never made the major
legs, you know, and it's like

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bro or like what's the show called
dance Moms, Yeah, just like that.

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It's she was like original dance mom
basically, and so like everybody had

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a puberty phase right in their life
and maybe didn't look so great or had

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like the baby fat as they say, you know, whenever you're like in

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your teen years and stuff like that, or growing into your teen years.

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Like that's what Gloria was. Her
mom was like fit and thin, spelt

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all this stuff, and Gloria wasn't. She was a little bit overweight and

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all this stuff, and her mom
like instilled really unhealthy habits in her to

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like essentially like starve herself and work
out to get skinny, which is what

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led her through, you know,
finding the look alike because she was beautiful,

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right. But anyway, so she
ends up going into this town school

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because she's basically been trained by her
mother and looks the part of what somebody

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would want in the industry at that
time, right before we were into the

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whole body positivity and things like that. So she goes through this talent school,

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she's not finding any prospects, Like
she's a great and talented songwriter,

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good singer, you know, she
can't she hasn't really like found her niche

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if you will. So she ends
up meeting a friend that she knew and

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he's like, hey, I actually
had just signed this like record deal with

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a friend through a friend, and
that's how she meets Sergio. He's like,

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I can introduce you to them if
you want to. But it was

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this before or after the look like
show. She won the contest for the

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Lusaito lookalike and it came with the
contract and then that ended and then she

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had like no work. The Lusito
thing was before she met Sergio because she

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had no prospects at the Lusaito thing. This when she met this guy you're

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talking about, because that guy's also
a singer, Ricky Yeah, Ricky Luis,

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Ricky Luis. He tried to make
it as a singer but it didn't

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go well very well. But he
also was like a producer at the lusam

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h he was the one who yeah, who who was like this guy just

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produced my city, which is what
Sejandreda and he took her to meet him,

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and at that time, Saijndrede was
forming a girl groups. Yes,

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when I had to record that,
I was like, oh my god,

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this is the lamest name I've ever
heard. Actually, the name apparently comes

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from Sere was found the name through
a Argentine in Argentine. How do you

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say Argentinian? Argentine Argentine Tinian Argentinian
guy artists who wrote a song about a

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man and his three lovers and in
the in that song they say yeah,

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And that was his inspiration for a
teenage group. Weird name discussing yeah,

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And she's like to paint the picture
of this age gap that exists. He's

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fifteen years older than her, yes, Like he's thirty years old when he

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meets her, essentially or like in
his thirties and she's like fifteen. Yes.

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Ricky Louise takes her over to audition
for this girl group. There's a

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bunch of people there. She arrives
at four pm. It does an audition

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until two am. Insane and apparently
this audition didn't last very long. It

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was like very short compared to other
ones. So they never really talks about

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what went on in that room.
According to Ricky Louise, when Gloryda Therapy

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came out of the room, she
was like all of a sudden stand offish

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with him, didn't like talk to
him anymore, and then they were like

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never friends again, even though they
were friends before. So he thinks he

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was already like, you can't talk
to anyone if you're going to be a

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part of this, you can't talk
to any guys, because that was one

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of his rules. He has so
many rules for anyone, any teenage girl

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he worked with. Yeah, because
they are the only people that listen to

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him like this because he knows how
to manipulate them, and they're young and

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they want to be famous. Yep. So when she came out, she

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no longer talked to him, and
I did find also, so she was

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the last person, the last girl
to join the group. He already had

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the other three members at that time. One of them was Maria Bokita's and

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she has a podcast called Enbrocasa.
Initially it was only ten episodes about all

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this whole case. So through her
podcast, I found that she was already

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like being abuse at this at this
time, but nobody knew and so she

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writes, or she says in her
podcast that she was in one of the

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back rooms during the audition again it
was like two and she heard like a

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voice like no other. She was
like, oh, I heard ada because

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she has like a Gloria has like
a very raspy kind of voice. Right,

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yeah, So she was like,
and it was a voice like no

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other. It was so she it
was a real audition, like by all

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into some purposes, even though some
people trying to make it seem like it

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wasn't even an audition, Like he
just was like you got a good body,

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great, yeah, exactly, which
how some of the auditions did go

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yes, yeah yeah. But also
one thing I wonder is still if he

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was the one who put together that
Lusarito looked like showed that would be so

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creepy because he was obsessed with her. And then I'm sure he did because

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Gloria Trevi won that contest, and
like this man never stopped being obsessed with

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Luca Tito, Like we'll see it
again and again that he brings her up

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throughout this whole thing. Yeah,
it's it's like a point of pride for

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him because his whole thing, like
I mean if you want to look up

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the word like egotistical in the dictionary, you'll see him narcissist. You'll see

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him like he thought he was just
like the best in the world, you

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know, and I mean talented,
I'm sure because he did create, you

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know, good artists. The way
he went about creating the artists not so

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great, right, exactly, tortured
these kids to get the product essentially that

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he wanted and was successful at getting
the product, but at the cost of

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her mental health and well being,
you know. Yeah. And then just

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because we're kind of at a point
where we're gonna begin focusing a little bit

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on Sere, I'm gonna talk a
little bit of it about his background,

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not a lot, because like he
sucks, but he was born in guasalcos

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Vera, Cruz, Mexico, on
November twenty sixth, nineteen fifty five.

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I think the only thing really we
need to know is that he has an

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older brother that his family loved more
than him, and that older brother was

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involved in Mexican politics. He was
like a senator can relate, right,

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I can relate. I feel like
every child of Mexican, every girl that

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has a brother of oldest son yeah, oldest son, yeah, there you

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go, or even youngest son.
Oh for real, yeah, just study

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in general in general, yeah yeah, yes, So he studied music from

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a young age. His first like
professionally recorded music happened in nineteen seventy seven,

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and then he started getting like really
good producing jobs. He produced for

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artists like Veronica Gastro, huge,
huge artists. In nineteen seventy nine,

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he became the youngest musical director of
CBS Mexico, where he also produced for

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artists like Judith Chaves or Gabby was
her artist's name. I don't know who

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that is. I'm not that Mexican, I guess, but I think she

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was also another teen star before Luceto. Three years after that, he left

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CBS Mexico and began producing independently for
Televisa, and here he produced programs like

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aleriaz Melo, Melovia Me No Sorry
a melodia and this was like a program

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where artists came in formed, which
includes Luceito. This is the first time

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he actually like was dear her in
person, and he was like obsessed with

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her, and he was like,
I have to produce for her, and

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he did. He produced songs like
her famous Osito Panda or elso again like

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Little Teddy Bear songs. She was
thirteen, Yeah, and yeah, he

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became obsessed with her. To this
day, Lucetto herself, she's very private

407
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:27.440
about whatever happened with said she just
not talked about it. When she's asked

408
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.359
about it, she will say things
like, I don't remember those times.

409
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:34.160
It was a long time ago.
I don't blame her Gio who Yeah,

410
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:38.799
I don't know him. Yeah,
we don't know her. Yeah, that's

411
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:41.880
basically what she does, and I
do not fault her. No, protect

412
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:47.279
your peace. Yeah. There were
a bunch of rumors about what actually happened,

413
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:53.559
but from what I gather, Lusetto's
mom started noticing that her daughter was

414
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:59.960
changing, and that said ko Andrade
was putting more like excuses on why he

415
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.240
needed more and more time with her, and that's when she was like,

416
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.240
no, this is getting weird,
and she like took her daughter and they

417
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:12.440
left and cut contact with him.
There's other rumors that Lusa Rito's mom walked

418
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:17.799
in on them and like the media
released this as having sex. But again,

419
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:22.400
she's thirteen, so really he was
raping her. Yeah, because she's

420
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:25.720
thirteen, she can't consent. Right, and so that's how the media like

421
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:29.000
released the story and that after she
saw that, she took her daughter and

422
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:33.839
they left and cut all ties with
him. There's another rumor that they started

423
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:37.519
noticing her acting different and this is
what Lusa Rito said, Oh but I

424
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:38.759
love him, and they were like, what the fuck, You're thirteen,

425
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:44.200
you don't love anyone like and and
she had a brother that's a police officer,

426
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.960
and then he went and like warned, said Hendread to stay away from

427
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:51.079
her and threatened him, and then
they took her and they cut all ties

428
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:56.119
with said Hendrade. There's another story
that Lusato told her mom her and said

429
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:57.680
he we're going to run away together. He was going to steal her,

430
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:02.839
like they said back in the day
where they were like, oh, like,

431
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:04.240
I'm gonna take your daughter, and
that's when they cut all ties.

432
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:08.720
Point is that something happened. They
cut all ties with him. They protected

433
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.160
her, they kept them away,
which is what not a lot of parents

434
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:15.920
did at the time. But I
think another thing we had to realize is

435
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:22.319
that Luceto was already famous. She
already before working with him. Yeah,

436
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.680
they weren't trying to make their little
girls dreams come true. They were already

437
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:29.359
coming true. She was already famous, because I think a lot of what

438
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:33.680
happens later with other parents you'll see
is like he'll use that excuse of like

439
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.640
I'm the only person that's gonna make
her famous. You have to do this

440
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.599
or she'll never her dreams will never
come true. And parents wanting to make

441
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:45.200
this happen for their children, and
that paycheck is also really nice. That's

442
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.920
you know, like not everything was
altruistic with these parents either. It was

443
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.880
like, you know, he's working
them to the bone, literally torturing them,

444
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:59.240
and the payout is nice, you
know. I mean, child stars

445
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:04.680
across Hollywood would be ike. It
takes a very exploitative ye on all sides,

446
00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:08.240
on all sides. But after Lucid
too cut out ties with him in

447
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:12.799
nineteen eighty five, we're after that. In nineteen eighty five, he started

448
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:19.559
to decide he was going to form
the girl group called Balas. Welcome to

449
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463
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to our episodes here, so thank
you for doing that. The name just

464
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:40.200
comes from a discussing idea. Some
of the members were already people that he

465
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:44.359
girls, that he had already been
working with, and this brings us to

466
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:50.200
Maria raquelent Portillo, also known as
Maria Bokitas and then the other members were

467
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:54.119
Claudia Rossas, Pilar Ramirez, Monica
Moor, and then Grodia Trevi was the

468
00:32:54.160 --> 00:33:00.680
last member of Bokita's Pintalas. This
group lasted a year, but after the

469
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:04.640
group fell apart, Gloria Trevi and
Maria Bukita stayed by his side, not

470
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:08.240
by their choice, which we'll learn. Yeah. In her own podcast in

471
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:14.640
Rocacerada, Maria raquelen Portillo, she
gives some insight on her own relationship with

472
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:20.720
said Conrade before before and all of
that. So, Maria had dreamed of

473
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:24.319
being a star, like she sang
before she could even talk, and her

474
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:29.200
parents like noticed, like, oh
my god, she's like talented, and

475
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:32.359
so they wanted to help her make
her dreams come true. They so they

476
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:37.960
traveled with their daughter Maria from where
they were from to Suda, Mexico,

477
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:44.160
Mexico City, where Candrea worked and
auditioned for him. He said he could

478
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:47.799
make her famous, and even the
audition was confusing because he never even he

479
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:52.279
like showed no emotion. But this
was all part of his ship, like

480
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:57.680
all the things he did, like
the manipulation, Yeah, because that makes

481
00:33:57.720 --> 00:33:59.960
you want to do it better,
right, that makes you think you didn't

482
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:01.720
do a good job, and so
you're like, I need to perform better

483
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:05.880
at the next one, Like I
got it. He's he's still not smiling.

484
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:08.280
It's like the Simon Cowell thing.
Yeah, oh my god, it's

485
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:14.239
exactly that. That just like the
non emotion, non emotive kind of thing,

486
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:16.239
and you're just like sitting there going
give me something like give me a

487
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:22.239
smile, like let me change something. So it compromises your own confidence,

488
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.119
yeah, you know, and that's
what he wants. He did this all

489
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:28.719
the time. But he made them
wait hours, like she said that they

490
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.280
waited like at least eight hours before
even auditioning. It's just something that he

491
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:36.280
regularly did. Like we saw he
did the same thing with Gloria Trevi So

492
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:38.400
he like said nothing about her performance. He just said, Okay, start

493
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:43.000
showing up every day at this time
because you need work, you need training,

494
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.199
you need to get better. And
her dad was even like, well,

495
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.639
we were only here for a month, like we have to go back

496
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:50.440
to work, and he was like, no, you guys need to go

497
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:52.840
all in or she's never going to
make it. And so what they did

498
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:57.400
was her dad went back to Tamolipas, and her and her mom got an

499
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:00.199
apartment at the Ovehical so that she
could keep training with him every single day.

500
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:05.000
And then he told her mom,
and you know, once the dad

501
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:09.320
was gone, he told her mom
and Maria Abukitas that they whenever they were

502
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:12.960
doing training or seeing you know anything, she had to be alone in the

503
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:15.599
room with him because it was too
distracting for her mom to be there.

504
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:17.920
And so her mom, her mom
didn't leave the premise. There was like

505
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:21.679
rooms in the back, and her
mom was in the lobby waiting area the

506
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:25.440
whole time, but there was back
doors, there was like other ways you

507
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:29.519
could get out without being in the
lobby area. And so it all started.

508
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:32.400
Like she did her training and the
whole time he was also like that

509
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:37.800
same serious, not really giving tips, nothing like that. But then once

510
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:42.960
she was like more and more alone
with him, this is when the grooming

511
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:45.559
began. So like step one is
get her alone, wrote which he had

512
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:50.599
successfully done by telling the mom you
can't be in the room as to distracting,

513
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.079
And so then he started like sweet
talking to her, paying her more

514
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:57.840
attention than her own parents, telling
her things like, oh, your parents

515
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:00.840
are never going to understand you because
like you, you have a dream,

516
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:02.840
you want to be famous, you're
talented. They're not. Only I can

517
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:07.679
understand you because I can make it
happen. She would ask how she was

518
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:10.760
doing, how her like family situation, like just paying her way more attention

519
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:14.719
than any adult was doing at this
point in her life. And that's how

520
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:19.639
it starts. That's what he's doing. And then one day he told her

521
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.400
he wrote a song for her,
like after their training or practice was over,

522
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.320
which also, like you mentioned,
was like very gruelly in practice,

523
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:30.400
like play the piano and who your
fingers are bleeding? Singing and seeing and

524
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:32.519
seeing and no breaks and like no
food, nothing like that. I was

525
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:37.000
the regular training before she was even
abused, like or this was abuse,

526
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:42.079
but before he fully groomed her,
I guess you could say. And so

527
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:45.880
one day after that, a day
of practice, he told her he wrote

528
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:49.480
her a song and it was a
love song. Weird. I'm like,

529
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.400
what are you doing singing that to
a thirteen year old? Oh? No,

530
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.440
sorry she was? How old was
she at this point, fourteen fifteen

531
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:59.519
or even know anymore? Non consenting
age? Yes, that is the point

532
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:04.480
of inappropriate love. Yeah. And
so after that point, she began to

533
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:06.920
feel like she loved him. Oh, she was fifteen. I wrote it

534
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:08.920
right after I was going to ask
myself. That's why I wrote it.

535
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:15.280
This is a reminder to take your
met You're right, you're right. Yeah.

536
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.480
So after that she began to feel
like she loved him. And again

537
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.840
she was fifteen and said, Yondrada, this was all part of his pun

538
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.039
like he knew this was going to
happen. That's why he was paying her

539
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:30.519
all that attention and telling her all
these things. And so after this song

540
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.000
happened, he began sneaking her out
of the studio while her mom was in

541
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.880
the lobby, like thinking she was
training. They were sneak out, go

542
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:45.360
on quote unquote dates and this is
like when you know the it's not a

543
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:47.280
relationship, but yeah, like went
on to the next step or whatever.

544
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:51.840
Yeah, and she thought she was
the only one. And then he told

545
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:53.880
her like randomly, he was going
to start a group and she had like

546
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:58.360
no choice in the manner. And
this is when all the auditions happened.

547
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:04.119
And by other counts say Glorida was
fifteen when she auditioned, but Maria Maria

548
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.440
Rekolleen said she was seventeen that Clorida
was seventeen when she auditioned. I'm like,

549
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:10.199
oh, that's weird. Yeah,
but I'm pretty sure she was fifteen.

550
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:15.039
She was fifteen. Yeah. Her
and Gloria became instant friends. Maria.

551
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:17.599
Glorida would ask her like, oh, do you have a boyfriend,

552
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:22.800
and she would be like no,
but this whole time said he was her

553
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:27.320
boyfriend quote unquote boyfriend. Yeah.
At some point Gloria did tell or not

554
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:30.519
Glordida. Maria did too. Gloria
that she was with said hell yeah during

555
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:36.400
this early even like this early in
their relationship, said. He would continuously

556
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:38.559
tell Maria like, you're not gonna
treat me like lucea Ito. Right,

557
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:44.360
She would ask again and again,
like Lusaito broke my heart. He would

558
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.400
cry. He would start crying,
oh my gosh to her and she yeah,

559
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:52.360
and she had to hold him and
promised that she was always gonna listen

560
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.519
to him, she was gonna tell
anyone about them, because what he would

561
00:38:55.519 --> 00:39:00.440
tell her is that luce Ito broke
his heart because she told her her mom

562
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:04.480
about them, and then he wasn't
allowed to see her anymore. So he

563
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:07.519
was like, you can't tell anyone
or the same thing's gonna happen. Hu

564
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:09.480
Citi too broke my heart. And
it's just so creepy because they all look

565
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:14.679
like her. Yeah, like like
every girl that he would go on to

566
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:20.480
abuse, Maria Bokita's Doriatrevi, they
all look like her too. Oh so

567
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:23.679
creepy, disgusting, and he forbade
her from talking to other boys, and

568
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:28.480
these were rules he had for all
the members. And so after a while

569
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:32.519
of their relationship, Maria somehow ended
up telling her mom that they were together,

570
00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:37.760
and then they like were freaking out
and then said he went and told

571
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:39.920
them like, oh no, she
just she's obsessed with me. But as

572
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:45.559
her teacher, I keep it business. Yeah, this cannot happen. Obviously,

573
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:47.000
I'm an adult, and you know
what, it's better that she likes

574
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:51.639
me and she's not out there with
boys her own age. I imagine what

575
00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:54.719
boys her own age would be doing, Like, no, we're just professionals

576
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:58.639
here, and that's what he told
them. But no, the whole time

577
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:02.000
he had been abusing their daughter.
And it's just and these people are like

578
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:08.000
charming convinced. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like Groomer's handbook one

579
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:12.840
on one, you know, is
that you can't be a mean like you

580
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:15.599
can be a mean person, I
think, but you ultimately like get the

581
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:20.920
past because of how charming you are
exactly, and so her mom believed him,

582
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:24.880
and whatever time went on. So
I think there was like a because

583
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:28.800
you know, families will go to
another town for like the entire month of

584
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.320
like December for Christmas or whatever.
Her family was going to go somewhere for

585
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:34.960
like a whole month, and she
was crying and freaking out. Her mom

586
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:36.920
was like, why are you acting
like this? This is so weird,

587
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:38.480
Like, yeah, she didn't want
to be away from said huol for that

588
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:43.599
long, and so it was during
that time that he told her I'm going

589
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:45.519
to fix this. And then he
went and told their parents they were gonna

590
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.800
get married, and they were like
what the fuck, Like you guys weren't

591
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:52.599
even what are you talking about?
Yeah, how did this happen? Yeah

592
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:58.559
exactly, And he ended up convincing
them in the same way like this is

593
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:00.719
the for the best, Like this
is I'm going to make her so successful.

594
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:06.000
Think about how successful she'll be now
being my wife. You know,

595
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.599
pretty much the same the same shit, same lines, and so they let

596
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:13.639
it happen. They did it and
her, Like in Mariabuqita's this podcast,

597
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:16.079
her mom actually goes on and they
asked her like, well, why did

598
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.639
you say yes? Why did you
let this happen? And I think it's

599
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.719
a story that we hear time and
time again, but she said like,

600
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:24.559
well, I didn't want to lose
my daughter completely, Like I knew it

601
00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:28.880
was wrong, but I thought that
if I fought it, she would turn

602
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:30.599
against me. Mm hmm. I
was like, well, if I let

603
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:35.639
this happen, like even though he's
an older man, like, she'll be

604
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:39.480
safe and I and she won't hate
me. And so she ended up saying

605
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:45.000
yes, And so he didn't let
her have a King Signetta because again she's

606
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:49.000
fifteen. Yeah, so he was
like, there's no King Signeta that's going

607
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:52.599
to happen. We're going to get
married instead. But then instead of a

608
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:57.519
normal big lavish wedding where he randomly
one day he got he talked to her

609
00:41:57.559 --> 00:41:59.119
and he was like, we're going
to get married right now, and she

610
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:04.079
had like an hour to tell her
parents and they quickly went and got dressed.

611
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.360
They found a random witness like that's
how like it was like spur of

612
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.559
the moment yeah, spur of the
moment, like nothing was planned. Then

613
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:14.360
he's like, all right, we're
gonna go to our honeymoon in New York.

614
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:16.920
And they said they're goodbyes, and
then she was like, all right,

615
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:20.280
we're going to New York. And
then they ended up going back to

616
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:23.320
Susan, Mexico to one of his
houses where his mom lived, and they

617
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:27.880
never went to New York. He
trapped her in the house for like ten

618
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.960
days. This is where he beat
her. He raped her. His mom

619
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:37.239
would make Mariac clean until her fingers
were like bleeding and everything had to be

620
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.360
spotless, or he would come back
and beat her because something was wrong,

621
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:44.559
she didn't like clean the way she
was supposed to something, and then didn't

622
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:46.760
let her go anywhere. Then after
ten days of all that, they just

623
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:52.800
went back to Susan, Mexico and
like nobody questioned anything. Nobody asked why

624
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:57.320
she was covered in bruises, like
nothing. And again it's because these these

625
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:00.800
people, these men have I don't
know, people willing to carver for them,

626
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:02.880
people that they're like, oh,
that's just how they are. Yeah,

627
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:06.760
I mean, I don't think a
lot of people even were talking about

628
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:12.599
domestic violence even then no, maybe
not especially then I think it. I

629
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:15.239
mean, it was bad in the
US right, like where people were like,

630
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.800
it's not my relationship, not my
business, like it's not my problem

631
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:22.719
to deal with. I only imagine
that. It's like ten times that sentiment

632
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:27.880
of like that's their family, that's
their relationship, we don't get involved in

633
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.800
it, like we're not gonna go
against him, and stuff like that,

634
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:35.760
and so exactly, you know,
I can't I can't ever understand a mentality

635
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:40.719
like that of seeing somebody go through
something like that and then not wanting to

636
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:46.159
do something. Yeah, you know, yeah, and yeah they went they

637
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:52.840
went back and it was like time
to train again for the group of and

638
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:57.679
then he told the Budas that they
were gonna all grab their stuff and live

639
00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:00.400
together in that same house that she
had just been in Maria Bokita's. They

640
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:04.800
were all to go there and live
and spend every single minute together because they're

641
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.920
I don't know, I don't know
why. Honestly, according to Sadyo,

642
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:13.840
the it was like how the group
would bond or whatever. They were only

643
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:16.840
together a year and then he told
them it was going to be disbanded.

644
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:21.960
But during that year that the Boksas
were living together, they like trained and

645
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:28.320
trained often eighteen hour days. Satyondrada
was cruel when the girls made mistakes and

646
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:31.119
during that time when they were like
not training back in the house, Maria

647
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:37.280
began noticing that Gloria was like more
and more reserved with her, especially when

648
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:39.840
she would talk about Sakyo and then
oh and then I forgot to mention.

649
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:45.800
But this entire time her marriage to
Setyondrada was to be kept a secret.

650
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:49.559
I think right before they were going
to move into the group or everyone was

651
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.320
going to move into the house,
he told her that she needed a new

652
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.880
name because she ran into a family
member or someone that was like, oh,

653
00:44:55.960 --> 00:45:01.039
Maria Raqanell because she went by Drakanet
mostly that's her middle name. And

654
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:05.920
she ran into a friend or something
who was asking her if she was going

655
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:08.199
to go to Tamaulipas to visit family, or that they knew her family from

656
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:14.280
back home. Somebody somebody recognized her
Draconel and then her last names, like

657
00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:15.480
somebody was like, I know your
family from back home, how have you

658
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:19.880
been? And one Sitcomda noticed this. He was like, oh, you're

659
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:22.440
changing your name. Your name is
too your last name plus your middle name,

660
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:25.760
it's too well known. People know
that you're from Tamaulipas. From now

661
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:30.960
on, you're going to be Mariaboquitas. That's your new name, because it's

662
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:34.480
more anonymous and that way no one
can find you, and you're gonna just

663
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:37.719
going to be more like hidden.
And from from that moment on, she

664
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.159
was Mariabokitas. Yeah. See,
and I hear two different things. I

665
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:45.840
heard that story, but then I
also heard the one where she like wanted

666
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:49.519
to change it to honor his creativity. It's probably a little bit of both.

667
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:52.119
Yeah, it's like, you created
this group, and I want to

668
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:57.079
honor it for like ever and show
you like how dedicated and passionate I am

669
00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:00.920
about it. And so she changed
her last name to kind of honor that,

670
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:04.519
and I'm like, that's so sad, and she still goes by it,

671
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:07.119
so like I mean, it's you
know, you can't it's you can't

672
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:10.280
do much with things like that because
that's kind of your brand at that point,

673
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:14.559
you know. But it is sad
to think about her being so young.

674
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:16.480
I mean, she wasn't even twenty
one, you know, like she's

675
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:21.920
super young. No, she was
so what fifteen during all this, Yeah,

676
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.880
just a it's a really sad mentality
in terms of like the manipulation that's

677
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:29.400
happening and across the group, you
know, like it was. I think

678
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:32.119
when people think of girl groups,
they already imagine like the cattiness and all

679
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:36.840
that stuff, like a hundred times
worse than this. Yeah, you know,

680
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:43.239
like he he created an environment for
them to distrust each other when they

681
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:46.679
could have relied upon each other and
leaned on each other for support a hun

682
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:52.079
he was like, I think he
knew that, So I think he intentionally

683
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:57.920
created that environment so that none of
them felt safe with each other and they

684
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.119
were all kind of looking to get
the other person in trouble for his favor.

685
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:06.559
For sure, that's exactly what he
was doing. And yeah, I

686
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:09.760
forgot to mention all that, but
that's why I'm here girl the official co

687
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:15.000
host. Yeah, yeah, official, just kidding, feel better, germent.

688
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:21.920
So yeah, during all this time, Maria began noticing Gloria was more

689
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.719
and more reserved and spending more time
was said. And then she also noticed

690
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:29.079
that said he was spending less time
with Maria and with herself. And then

691
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:34.239
when the group was disbanded and everyone
left, Gloria stayed and Maria was like,

692
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:36.679
what is happening. Why is Gloria
still here if the rest of the

693
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:39.760
group left, But she didn't want
to believe it. And then one night

694
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:44.159
she saw Gloria Trevi leaving said he
was room late at night, and so

695
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:47.320
then she asked, said he if
he was with Gloria and then he after

696
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:51.159
hitting her and all that, like
was like, oh, that's what you

697
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:53.079
get for not listening. I told
you not to tell anyone about us.

698
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:55.719
And again, if we like go
back to a little bit in this episode,

699
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:59.880
she did tell Gloria about them m
hm, and so he was like,

700
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:01.199
this is what you get. I
told you not to tell anyone about

701
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:05.039
us, and you did, so
this is what happens. And Maria,

702
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:09.360
again still young in love, abused. She felt like she had no choice

703
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:13.880
to accept it, but she was
like surprised. In her own podcast,

704
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:17.920
she says she was surprised that the
rebellious she got that Belosto, the girl

705
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:22.760
with her hair down, had also
fallen for the same abuse that she had.

706
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:27.119
And these are her words like again, this just to me goes to

707
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:30.039
show that anyone can be groomed,
anyone can be abused, regardless of who

708
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:35.719
they are, and because I think
something like so many people when they talk

709
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:38.039
about the story Passed Over, is
that they were both so young, Yeah,

710
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:43.599
so young, and he was fucking
an old ass man like yeah,

711
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.960
comparatively speaking to them like I'm in
I'm older than Sergio was at the time

712
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:51.320
this was going on, right,
like I'm thirty five. Oh no,

713
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:53.880
wait, I'm thirty six. Mother, so neither way, like he was

714
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:58.360
still in his thirties, like he
I mean, like not even in his

715
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:02.280
mid thirties. He's in his early
thirties. Yeah, like thirty two thirties

716
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:07.239
some shit. But there's you know, I can't even begin to imagine the

717
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.000
type of mind frame you'd have to
find a fifteen year old. I would

718
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:15.719
like pass you know, like makes
me want to throw up, but don't.

719
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:19.119
I would say, you do you? But in this instance, don't

720
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:24.800
do you? Like, do not
commit a crime? I don't understand it.

721
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:30.920
And you made a really great point
here too, Like it's really easy

722
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:35.159
to villainize the women in this case, right, Like in the story,

723
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:37.800
it's really easy to say, like, oh, they should have said something

724
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:44.360
or they you know, Glodia is
like known as this trailblazer for feminism in

725
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:47.960
Mexico, right, Like all of
her songs deal with the kind of empowerment

726
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:51.639
and all this stuff. Like maybe
now she's not known that, but at

727
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:54.719
the time people were like looking at
her like you're amazing, Like you're speaking

728
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:59.000
for us and you're empowering us and
all this stuff. And people who aren't

729
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:02.679
educated about violence are grooming and how
it works. It's easy to blame the

730
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:06.440
victim. It's I mean, it's
kind of like a knee jerk reaction to

731
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:08.800
be like, well you should have
or I would have done. You don't

732
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:14.000
know how you would truly react,
and you don't same thing like joining cold.

733
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:17.280
It can happen to anybody, and
these were all kinds. This was

734
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:22.159
a very layered approach that he had. Not only was he grooming, he

735
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:28.039
was also you know, engaging in
domestic abuse with more than one person.

736
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:31.760
But then he was also really,
oh my gosh, what was I saying?

737
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:38.320
I didn't take my meds. I
had a point, and I'm sure

738
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:40.400
it was great. It was going
to be good. It was going to

739
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:44.599
be good. Just imagine it was
great. I think so, yeah.

740
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:50.239
But all have to say is that
he is a pos exactly in all he's

741
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:54.760
a piece of shit. Yes.
So then in nineteen eighty six things started

742
00:50:54.760 --> 00:51:02.519
going very wrong for Set. The
wedding, the marriage to teenager Maria Bokitas

743
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:07.800
went public, not by her choice, rumors had been going around for a

744
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:10.719
long time now, but she was
at a show or something. It was

745
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:15.400
like a television show, and the
anchor, who was friends with Sea was

746
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:17.039
like howding her, like, oh, you're married, How you're married?

747
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:21.039
You guys are married, And at
some point she had like no choice but

748
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:23.280
to be like, yeah, we
got married. And so this came to

749
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:28.440
light, it was confirmed, and
then at the same time, a father

750
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:32.480
of one of setnads former clients began
looking for him and was public about it

751
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:37.960
because his daughter was pregnant. I
can't even find this girl's name. I

752
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:40.519
think she's anonymous. Yeah, that
has to be it. But that this

753
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:44.920
was all happening at the same time, and then this led said he had

754
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:47.199
to go into hiding, and he
didn't tell anyone where he went. He

755
00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:52.599
didn't even tell Maria, his wife, where he was going. And then

756
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:54.920
he also didn't tell Gloria Trevi.
But all three of them had to be

757
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:59.719
living together at the time. Yeah, so he was gone for almost two

758
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:02.840
years. During this time, Gloria
Trevi's own whereabouts are not really known.

759
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:07.199
They changed, like she the details
of what was happening during this time changed

760
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:10.960
from time to time. She says
she spent time singing and the bus for

761
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:15.760
money, teaching yoga, just trying
to get by, but she was not

762
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:22.239
like singing or anything like career wise, and then said her resurfaces after almost

763
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:25.599
two years. She finds him again, and she wrote a bunch of songs

764
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:30.559
during this time period and they were
good. He was like, Wow,

765
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:34.519
these are really good, and so
she wanted him to produce her music because

766
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:38.119
like he was still insanely talented,
Like you could see all the names he

767
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:42.800
had worked with before. He agreed
to produce it, but he made her

768
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:45.400
pay for it. Yeah, Like
isn't that crazy. I was like I

769
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:49.760
remember reading through that part and I
was like, how are you going to

770
00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:52.519
sit here with this as a multi
millionaire? Like, yeah, his business

771
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:55.920
was not affected as greatly as like
Gloria and the rest of the girls of

772
00:52:55.960 --> 00:53:00.280
the group, like they had nothing
when they left, right and even like

773
00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:05.199
even though he was married to Maria, like still same things. It's not

774
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:07.519
like you went into hiding with her. He was like, no, he's

775
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:09.360
out, it's with me by myself. I'm taking care of me. Like

776
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:15.280
that was crazy to me because it
was like she had again it's the coercive

777
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:19.400
control kind of thing. It's like, I'm going to make it so difficult

778
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:22.519
for you to exist on this planet
that the only thing you want to eat

779
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:25.840
for breakfast, lunch, and dinner
is my approval. Like that's literally all

780
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:29.920
it is. Yes, So he's
like, yeah, figure it out if

781
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:32.159
you want to be famous. I'm
broke, but I'm about to go to

782
00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:37.320
my vacation home, so just let
me know. Pretty much. She ended

783
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:40.800
up paying for it, and it
was an instant success because she she was

784
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:45.320
also insanely talented. It wasn't just
him his producing Like I would say,

785
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:49.119
she could have done it without him. But obviously at the time she didn't

786
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:52.360
know she had already been abused by
him. She was so young at this

787
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:54.639
point, she was eighteen, but
she had been abused by him since what

788
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:59.320
age fifteen, Like that doesn't go
away over nine, obviously, so she

789
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:02.320
thought she him. Yeah, and
she didn't have the confidence. I mean,

790
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:07.639
her confidence had been like drilled down
to nothing, you know. Yeah,

791
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:12.639
at some point. He reconnects also
during this time period with Maria Abukitas,

792
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:15.519
who had no idea where he was. Nothing about him Again, she's

793
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:22.280
also eighteen, they're still married.
They're still married. So he tells her

794
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:25.360
he's going to open up like a
talent school for teaching girls and then makes

795
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:30.920
her like the person that does everything. He might admin everything for everything.

796
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:38.360
Yeah, it's very strange, and
so just like they had been living before

797
00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:43.440
he disappeared went into hiding, he
convinced, not convinced them, but like

798
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:45.760
force them that they were all going
to be living together again. They were

799
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:49.800
both going to be with him,
and they had no choice in this manner.

800
00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:54.079
Yeah, so then they were all
living together again, and he was

801
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:59.079
with both of them. He controlled
everything, they did, abuse them,

802
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:02.000
they couldn't talk to what. I
found one account that said they were forced

803
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:07.320
to live in like whatever office was
in that same yes, in the they

804
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:09.679
were supposed to they lived in the
uh sorry I had to adjust my chair

805
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:14.880
living in the uh the office building
that they were in. But they weren't

806
00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:17.119
even like I'm trying to think of
a movie that was like this, but

807
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:22.400
they were like they weren't even allowed
to be around the employees so like their

808
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:27.599
employees of this of this establishment,
but they're like you stay back there,

809
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:32.840
and you know, again, deplorable
conditions for these you know, alleged superstars

810
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:38.079
mm hmmm, yeah, especially Groya
Trevi, who on the outside was this

811
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:43.519
rebellious figure, this feminist figure.
In this entire time, she was being

812
00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:49.840
abused too, right. So in
her podcast in Boca, Mariabokitaz talks about

813
00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:55.079
an incident that happened during this time
period that Setiyo was furious because somebody had

814
00:55:55.119 --> 00:56:00.119
eaten his tuna can and nobody would
say who who was, Like Gloria and

815
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:02.599
Maria were like, it wasn't me, both of them. So then he

816
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:07.280
told Maria and trigger warning because this
part is horrendous, but this whole episode

817
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:08.639
actually needs a trigger warning. I
forgot to say that up top. I

818
00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:14.960
will say it later and put it
in there. But he told Maria to

819
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:19.360
undress herself, to get naked and
then like lay face down, and then

820
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:22.199
he forced gloriad to come inside and
then he kept asking Gloria, did you

821
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:27.360
eat the tuna can? And every
time Gloria said no, he hit Maria

822
00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:31.920
and this went on until he got
tired because Grodad never admitted that she ate

823
00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:36.000
it, and then Maria also said
she didn't eat it, so he kept

824
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:39.719
hitting her until he got tired.
And this he did things like this to

825
00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:45.519
train them both basically to not like
you were saying earlier, that they couldn't

826
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:49.559
confide in each other, they only
had him and everything was up to him,

827
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:52.639
and this was just another way to
further abuse, coerce them, make

828
00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:57.559
them more scared, things like this, because he regularly did things like that.

829
00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:00.800
He decided which one of them was
going to sleep with him, because

830
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:05.480
they had it was like a house, and when they were they were not

831
00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:08.039
in the office. Each person had
their own room and he had the master

832
00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:10.920
bedroom, and he would decide,
Okay, tonight you sleep with me.

833
00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:14.800
The next night you sleep with me. But even if they were chosen to

834
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:16.920
sleep with him, they didn't sleep
in the bed with him. They slept

835
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:21.840
on the floor at the foot of
his bed. Oh my god, and

836
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:28.719
that something yeah, insane. And
during the same time period, Maria Bokitas

837
00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:32.679
was forced to do all the household
like cleaning the admin stuff of this talent

838
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:40.039
school, and Setu and Gloria were
working on Grogatre Vis's solo career, which

839
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:45.000
again was doing good, was taking
she was taking off. And then at

840
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:49.840
some point Setyo told Maria Bukitas that
all three of them were going to go

841
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:53.159
to some promotional event in Pachuka,
Ialgo. So all three of them went

842
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:58.760
and this is where they met Sonya
Rios. She was a thirteen year old

843
00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:01.840
girl. She was working at a
stand with her mom. Said he'll convince

844
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:07.519
the girl's mom that she was going
to work with them at this convention for

845
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:12.119
the like three days that they were
there, and then convinced the girl's mom

846
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:15.159
that Sonya was going to make more
money if she wants to see that,

847
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:17.400
and may he go with them.
She was gonna be safe, she was

848
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:22.079
going to help them out because they
were like very poor. He would make

849
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:24.239
her famous. Blah blah blah,
the same shit, same shit as always

850
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:31.119
right, So he convinced this mom
to basically give over give her daughter to

851
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:36.480
him like and she went with them, and so now Glodia was This is

852
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:40.119
what he told Maria Bukitas and Greye
Trevi that Sonya was now part of the

853
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:45.360
family, that's what he called themselves. She was the first like girl after

854
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:50.840
them to become a victim of this
like sect or cult or like, yeah,

855
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:52.519
whatever you want to call it.
So and again she was thirteen.

856
00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:58.239
At some point Media's family tried getting
her out of this because they couldn't get

857
00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:00.400
a hold of her. He didn't
like let them talk to their family at

858
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:05.719
all, of course, right,
he completely isolated them. Yeah, and

859
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:08.400
so they were like they desperate to
see her. And I think at some

860
00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:14.519
occasion they learned where she was,
just through like Colleen offices something. I

861
00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:17.960
don't know exactly how. Yeah,
so she called the she called the recording

862
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:22.599
studio because it was one that he
had used in the past and she knew

863
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:25.880
about it. I think I forgot
how she found out, but she basically

864
00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:29.079
asked the employee like, oh,
hey, I'm trying to like get a

865
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:32.440
hold of him, and I can't
remember where he's where he's staying and stuff.

866
00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:36.559
And so that person was like,
oh, no problem, he's staying

867
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:39.159
here and here's his room. And
I was like, hello, safety security,

868
00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:43.760
you guys. But I'm glad obviously, Yeah, she said something,

869
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:46.079
but that's how she found out.
I almost feel like that was a different

870
00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:51.239
location because then what I wrote was
from her own podcast, and she says

871
00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:53.800
that her and Clodia I met with
her family at some point. Oh,

872
00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:58.400
I'm thinking of Alene, my bad. Oh that's who. Yeah, because

873
00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:00.920
that happened too. Yeah, like
it sounds so familiar. And that's that

874
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:07.440
sounds so familiar. It's like basically
the same. Yeah. Well we'll get

875
01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:12.000
to add Oh my god. And
this is only part one. This is

876
01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:15.480
how bad this is. So Madia's
family dragged her into a car and left.

877
01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:20.599
Apparently at some point her dad paid
Gloria because Glorida was trying to like

878
01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:24.480
stop them from taking Maria. Then
Saidio found where her family was at.

879
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:29.119
He had two cops with him,
and they pointed guns at Maria's dad,

880
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:34.960
demanding he released Maria, and her
dad pleaded like she's underage, blah blah

881
01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:37.079
blah, and was like that doesn't
matter. She's my wife. Now,

882
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:40.639
you have no rights over her.
I'm like her guardian now because they're married,

883
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:45.440
which is disgusting. M oh true. And then Seidio grabbed a gun

884
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:50.039
from one of the police officers and
like put it on her dad's head and

885
01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:53.000
was like let her go. And
so she Madia herself was like let me

886
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:57.599
go because she didn't want her dad
to die and like they were so scared

887
01:00:57.639 --> 01:01:01.400
they let her go and it's just
and allowed to like intimidate them. It's

888
01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:08.239
crazy, insane. Yeah. So
after this all was happening, after they

889
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:14.400
found Sonya to join their quote unquote
family, Gloria and Maria were in charge

890
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:19.519
of finding girls at the academy that
said he could abuse. Though through her

891
01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:24.159
podcasts and Brocasda, Maria Bukitas maintains
that Gloria Trevi was better at it and

892
01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:29.239
that because she was the more public
figure, so she was really the one

893
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:31.280
finding girls. Now, Mariabokitas,
we don't know how true that is,

894
01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:37.880
but although I could see it because
Gloria was the famous one, Mariabokitas was

895
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:43.079
basically hidden and like in charge of
everything behind the scenes. Yeah, Gloria

896
01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:46.159
Trevi was the face the fame.
She'd be able to disarm somebody a lot

897
01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:50.639
easier because you're admiring, like,
oh my god, I gotta trust her.

898
01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:53.760
She's a trusted figure, you know. And so in nineteen ninety,

899
01:01:54.360 --> 01:02:02.239
Gloria brought thirteen year old Alene and
Nanez, who Gloria through a friend that

900
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:07.719
was a dancer of hers. Of
Gloria Trevis and so she auditioned with Gloria

901
01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:12.719
and said you're in the room,
and then like the audition was like they

902
01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:15.719
all went. He was all still
awake and serious and the same shit as

903
01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:19.159
always, right, But then after
the audition, Gloria Trevi told her that

904
01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:22.559
there was another audition and that this
was like standard, this was normal in

905
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:28.280
the industry. That said, he'll
need it to see her naked basically or

906
01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:31.719
like undressed, and she was like
reluctant. Again, she's thirteen. She

907
01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:36.199
doesn't want to address herself in front
of a man. But Gloriac convinced her

908
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:38.960
that like this is what this is. Everybody does this basically. It's like

909
01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:43.480
everybody in the industry does this.
Like if you if you're going to be

910
01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:45.880
serious about this, you have to
be uncomfortable. And to some of the

911
01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:49.840
credit, yes, that does happen, right, like you have quick changes

912
01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:53.440
behind stage and you're like fully naked
changing into your costumes and things like that.

913
01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:59.719
But those are adults for the most
part, those are not you know.

914
01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:04.119
Yeah, yeah, so she's not
wrong in that sense, but I

915
01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:07.760
think you know, again, she's
not been charged with anything. I mean,

916
01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:12.599
she's been charged, she's not been
what is likes she was not found

917
01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:16.920
guilty in the eyes of the law, right, but she's had what do

918
01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:22.880
they call like not personal loss with
civil brought against her. Yeah, you

919
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:25.960
know, and those are easier to
you know, the burden of proof isn't

920
01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:29.519
as strong. It's more so like
do you think this could have happened?

921
01:03:29.559 --> 01:03:37.320
Of course, So you know,
I think it's really disheartening to see how

922
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:40.599
that manipulation it's like a mold for
them, Like it starts with Sergio,

923
01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:45.679
but then it kind of like,
you know, every every hit he takes

924
01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:49.280
it and chips away at them as
a person, they take on a part

925
01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:52.239
of his personality because they know that's
what happens. Yeah, this is something

926
01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:57.239
that we see again again in all
these types of cltes, where then the

927
01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:00.079
abuse that were abused for a young
age hit in adult age and now they're

928
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:04.599
tasked with finding new victims for the
abuser exactly. So this this is a

929
01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:09.480
thing, This is something that happens, and it's it's sad and you know,

930
01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:13.320
like discussing at the same time.
Yeah, and again doesn't take away

931
01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:16.559
from their accountability exactly, you know, they should have it, but yeah,

932
01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:20.440
it is sad to see that she
used her own position to do what

933
01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:25.320
was happening to her and what happened
to her to somebody else who just had

934
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:30.039
a dream the other Yeah, I
didn't know any better. So this was

935
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:34.840
Gloria her role in the because now
it's like known as the Andrade trevi Coult,

936
01:04:35.239 --> 01:04:40.119
which just goes to show how much
blame they're putting on her. She

937
01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:44.159
is also getting. But yeah,
that that was her role. And so

938
01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:47.440
said, Yo was obsessed with Alene
and he started like he always did,

939
01:04:47.639 --> 01:04:51.400
promises of fame and album, just
like he did with Maria with Boitas,

940
01:04:51.480 --> 01:04:56.360
and soon he began abusing her Alene
and Nane this just like he did with

941
01:04:56.440 --> 01:05:00.440
the other girls, the same thing. And then again like he had with

942
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:03.440
Maria Bokita's, he brought up lu
Serito again. Yeah, I'm like,

943
01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:09.039
what do you is? This like
insane to me? The same shit he

944
01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:11.760
would tell her, like, don't
be like her, don't tell your parents.

945
01:05:11.840 --> 01:05:14.639
She told her mom, don't leave
me, broke my heart, don't

946
01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:16.880
leave Yeah, don't leave me,
blah blah blah, crying and shit like

947
01:05:17.119 --> 01:05:23.039
discussing because you know, she was
abused and a young girl. She believed

948
01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:26.920
him and they had a I didn't
want to call it a relationship, but

949
01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:31.239
he was abusing her, and so
then he announced to her parents that they

950
01:05:31.239 --> 01:05:34.679
were gonna get married, just like
he had with Maria Boqita's his parents,

951
01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:41.360
same scenario. He forced Maria to
sign divorce papers for him so that he

952
01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:45.480
could marry now fourteen year old Alena
ed Nanez, and then she moved into

953
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:48.840
the house with them. So now
it was Maria, Gloria, Sonya and

954
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:54.679
Alene and the acts of abuse fighting
new victims is continued for years. Some

955
01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:58.880
girls came and went and didn't stay
like the other four that were already part

956
01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:03.280
of the house during this time.
Sonya the first girl from Cado, where

957
01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:05.719
they aren't even I lost track of
where they were at whatever. From the

958
01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:11.239
fruit stand. That girl she had
a baby. She had a baby girl

959
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:15.880
and then a baby boy, and
said, Hyo didn't want another quote unquote

960
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:18.519
man in the house, so he
just gave her baby away the boy.

961
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:23.639
Oh my god, so disgusting,
because you only wanted girls. Yeah,

962
01:06:24.159 --> 01:06:29.360
so now you can add like what
human trafficking to ye his a list of

963
01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:33.440
crimes. So now there's more young
girls Gloria Maria said jo all In this

964
01:06:33.519 --> 01:06:36.800
house, right, and they're all
being sexually abused, they're being starved,

965
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:41.639
they're being beat by him. Then
we got to nineteen ninety four. Now

966
01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:45.519
this has been going on for years, but like nobody knows about it.

967
01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:49.039
In nineteen ninety four, twelve year
old Karina Yapod and her mom were waiting

968
01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:54.199
to meet Gloria with the hopes of
Katina working with Setiyo, and they got

969
01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:57.880
their wish. Gloria put together meeting
like an audition for the talent school that

970
01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:01.079
didn't really exist, right, it
was a traffic school, yes, basically

971
01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:05.679
it was not a talent school,
and so she auditioned. And I guess

972
01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:12.199
all these editions involved singing a song
of Gloria Trevi and then acting like a

973
01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:16.400
rich person and a poor person to
show that they could act. Although the

974
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:19.960
what I read in Spanish was that
it was like, you have to act

975
01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:24.000
like an India or India and I'm
like, oh, I'm not going to

976
01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:29.559
use that word, but culture.
Yeah, they had to act like the

977
01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:32.039
slur for an indigenous person. That
was part of the audition. Insane.

978
01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:35.159
She passed the audition she was to
join, and then Saidkyo did what he

979
01:07:35.239 --> 01:07:40.840
always did he went to the parents
said he needed this paper sign because being

980
01:07:40.880 --> 01:07:44.679
part of this talent school required them
to fly around from country to country,

981
01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:48.519
and this paper would make it easy
for him to let Karina fly with his

982
01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:53.519
group from country to country. And
so they signed it, not understanding what

983
01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:58.079
they just did. They just signed
their parental rights of Karina over to Seryo.

984
01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:00.400
But they did when they said the
paper, they weren't expelling what it

985
01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:03.599
was. They just signed it because
their little girl out to be famous,

986
01:08:03.679 --> 01:08:09.480
right, Yeah, So then Karinaya
was moved into the house. She became

987
01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:13.639
part of the quote unquote family and
then exposed to the same abuse, forced

988
01:08:13.719 --> 01:08:17.399
orgies, sexual abuse, beating,
starvings, and like you know. Another

989
01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:21.319
crime that could be added on to
Setiondada is that he would force the girls

990
01:08:21.359 --> 01:08:28.079
to into like sex parties with like
local police officers, politician like yeah,

991
01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:30.960
gross as things. So he was
s trafficking them. On one occasion,

992
01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:34.920
Karina escaped the house, found a
cop car that was driving by and told

993
01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:38.760
them that she had escaped the house
or she was being health captive and abused

994
01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:41.680
by Setjio. They put her in
the car and brought her right back to

995
01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:45.119
him, where she received one of
the worst beatings and she ended up in

996
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:47.800
the hospital. That's how bad it
was. Alena and Nanez herself brought in

997
01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:55.159
another thirteen year old, Madelina Galderon, because Alene, you know this whole

998
01:08:55.159 --> 01:08:57.680
time, she also was supposed to
be a start, She was supposed to

999
01:08:57.720 --> 01:09:01.159
be like another Gloria Trevi, but
this wasn't happening. Instead, she was

1000
01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:05.520
forced to become Gloria's backup singer and
said he told her like, well,

1001
01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:09.159
you need to find a singer to
replace you if you want me to make

1002
01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:13.760
your album. But really this also
meant find a replacement for you in my

1003
01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:17.840
cult, disgusting cult. Yeah,
and so she did because she wanted her

1004
01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:23.720
album. And so this brings Marilyne
Kalderon into the cult, another thirteen year

1005
01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:27.000
old, and Alena's album was released, but it was a flop. It

1006
01:09:27.079 --> 01:09:30.640
was not good, and by this
point she was seventeen. She managed to

1007
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:33.680
escape the cult after this because like
none of none of what was supposed to

1008
01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:36.720
happen, the reasons she wasn't during
all this shit, like it went to

1009
01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:40.560
shit, Like, yeah, her
album was made and it wasn't good.

1010
01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:43.920
The situation was getting worse so she
escaped but said he didn't even care.

1011
01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:46.640
She just Alena just left a little
note that said I'm not going to tell

1012
01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:50.319
anyone, and she left. And
she was seventeen by this point. And

1013
01:09:50.399 --> 01:09:55.520
at this time, Clorida was bringing
in so much money because she was I

1014
01:09:55.520 --> 01:09:58.479
mean, she was killing it.
Yeah, she she had made three movies.

1015
01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:02.199
She yeah, she was killing it. And her fame made it so

1016
01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:06.560
easy for her to bring victims for
him. And even though she was extremely

1017
01:10:06.600 --> 01:10:10.720
famous, her career was taking off. She wasn't allowed to talk to anyone.

1018
01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:13.319
She would do her performances and then
just kind of go into hiding.

1019
01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:16.079
People began to notice this that she
was just wasn't making any appearances nothing.

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01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:20.239
And then around nineteen ninety five,
it was like this became even more evident.

1021
01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:26.479
Patticha boy wanted to sign her unto
a contract with It was probably the

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01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:30.800
Levisa I'm guessing, and like u
s and Gloria, well not really Gloria,

1023
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:35.840
but Seed Conradees just like kept making
excuses, kept adding ridiculous like shit

1024
01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:40.520
to the contracts, and this went
on her months and then and then he

1025
01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:43.560
went with the opposing network. And
this was like Patti was like, what

1026
01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:46.279
the fuck fuck this? So he
made like an enemy out of Patticha Boy

1027
01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:50.479
and if anyone ever watched Bintaniando,
like, you don't want Patticha Boy as

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01:10:50.479 --> 01:10:58.359
an enemy, she will come for
your throat, and she did. She

1029
01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:02.640
had, like many others, had
heard rumors about what happened going on for

1030
01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:05.239
years now, but nobody really looked
into it. And she was like,

1031
01:11:05.239 --> 01:11:09.279
well, I'm gonna look into this. Yeah, So she began digging around

1032
01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:12.880
and this led her to Alene or
Alena found her. I'm not sure.

1033
01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:17.600
I think she Elena had reached out
to her, okay, And so Alene

1034
01:11:17.960 --> 01:11:24.119
told Patia Boy everything. Pattia Boy
began like telling everyone. She began talking

1035
01:11:24.119 --> 01:11:27.960
about it everywhere she could. She
was like telling people about this. At

1036
01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:33.680
the same time, Alena Ranez was
working on her book like Gloria the Glory

1037
01:11:33.680 --> 01:11:36.640
for Hell and this is like also
not a pun, what is it?

1038
01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:40.119
I don't know what the right word
is, but like a metaphor. It

1039
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:43.000
has a name, Yeah, it
does, Yeah, because it's a play

1040
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:45.039
on words for her name. Yeah, basically that's what. Yeah, because

1041
01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:49.000
of Gloriavis's name. Right, there's
somebody who's going to be listening to this.

1042
01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:54.479
That's like it's a delay, dummies. Yeah, and then they'll give

1043
01:11:54.479 --> 01:11:56.800
you a one star review for not
remembering the name. Yeah. And I'm

1044
01:11:56.800 --> 01:12:00.600
going to say to that, keep
it inside, don't let it ruin Christmas

1045
01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:09.159
spirit. Yes. And so so
Patti Cha Boy, the rumor or the

1046
01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:14.239
knowledge that Alena was almost done with
her book, and Gloria's pin up calendar,

1047
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:18.039
all these things like merged together because
at the same time Serio Andrede released

1048
01:12:18.079 --> 01:12:21.640
Gloria Trevis, her annual pinup calendar. She had one every year. Every

1049
01:12:21.720 --> 01:12:26.760
year was all these like riska poses
and costumes and stuff. This year,

1050
01:12:26.760 --> 01:12:30.560
though, for whatever reason, he
decided to include pictures of his underage captive

1051
01:12:30.600 --> 01:12:35.479
girls in the calendar, and everyone
was disgusted. Also to add on that

1052
01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:41.720
his victims were clearly malnourished. They
did it on healthy people could tell,

1053
01:12:41.920 --> 01:12:45.960
Yeah, And so people were disgusted
at the calendar. So this just kind

1054
01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:48.680
of like brought the heat that was
already around him, like to one thousand

1055
01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:53.800
plus Patti Cha Boy starting to talk
about his abuse, and the book was

1056
01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:58.439
about to release like April of the
following year. So all these things merging

1057
01:12:58.439 --> 01:13:01.359
together. The accusations were where you
could even find clips of Gloria Trevi.

1058
01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:05.039
Did you ever watch the show?
Christina did ask that, Yeah, I

1059
01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:11.439
probably didn't. Yeah, that's okay. You can find Gloria Revi defending s

1060
01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:14.600
on the show, Cristina, there's
clips of all this time, all this

1061
01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:17.399
happening, all these things together.
Said, he was like, we need

1062
01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:21.159
to go, we need to escape. And even though Gloria Trevi was at

1063
01:13:21.159 --> 01:13:28.239
the top of her like fame and
success, she went with him. She

1064
01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:30.960
dropped it. Yeah, her career, it was over. Basically, she

1065
01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:34.960
she went with him. They all
went into hiding. Nobody knew where they

1066
01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:40.039
went at the time, but they
had fled to Spain. And this is

1067
01:13:40.079 --> 01:13:47.680
where we will end part one,
which is already like an hour and a

1068
01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:51.119
half long, two hours song.
It's just yeah, it's a it's a

1069
01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:54.800
really intricate case. I mean,
like there's so many things you could mention,

1070
01:13:54.880 --> 01:14:00.520
you could deepe dive into pretty much
everybody's story, you know, yeah,

1071
01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:03.760
every every individual victim you yeah,
yeah, And so you know,

1072
01:14:03.840 --> 01:14:09.199
I'm glad you're doing it because I
think it's a good good reminder for people

1073
01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:14.479
to recognize that like this abuse can
happen again to anyone, and it can

1074
01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:18.279
I mean a global superstar, you
know, or a national superstar for Mexico

1075
01:14:18.319 --> 01:14:25.439
at least, like was willing to
lose everything for this person, for her

1076
01:14:25.479 --> 01:14:29.439
abuser yea. And then like we
said, it's like she also needs to

1077
01:14:29.439 --> 01:14:31.680
be held accountable because that's her point. Later on she became an adult and

1078
01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:36.039
she was also yeah, but she
doesn't need to be held more accountable than

1079
01:14:36.119 --> 01:14:41.439
Sergio, which is what people try
to do is they try and say but

1080
01:14:41.720 --> 01:14:45.039
her, and it's like, if
no Sergio existed, we wouldn't have this

1081
01:14:45.199 --> 01:14:48.920
issue. Mm hm. So you
got to start kind of at the source

1082
01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:54.000
of the whole of the whole thing, so exactly. And I also wanted

1083
01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:57.640
to talk about it because now there's
like even more we're getting more and more

1084
01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:01.159
snippets of like the abuse and music
industry with all the have you seen the

1085
01:15:01.239 --> 01:15:04.840
allegations not I mean they probably did
really happen, but against P Diddy,

1086
01:15:05.239 --> 01:15:09.960
Oh yeah? And how I mean
this California law, which is so great

1087
01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:13.920
I think for victims and everything that's
come out where it's allowing them to do

1088
01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:17.079
this like look back period of being
able to take their abusers to court.

1089
01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:21.640
I personally know somebody a fellow podcaster
who's doing the same thing to her abuser

1090
01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:27.000
and is able, you know,
And I'm so proud of her empowerment of

1091
01:15:27.479 --> 01:15:31.920
feeling the you know, the desire
to do what she feels is best for

1092
01:15:31.960 --> 01:15:36.920
her and to bring hopefully justice,
you know. But it's still it's it's

1093
01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:41.239
so great I think in some way
and then tragic in another way that this

1094
01:15:41.319 --> 01:15:45.000
even had to be a law.
Yeah, one hundred percent agree, you

1095
01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:46.800
know, it's it seems like kind
of a duh, like you would think

1096
01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:50.880
you should protect victims, but I
mean, you see time and time again

1097
01:15:50.920 --> 01:15:55.000
they're not, you know, So
not to be a downer, you know,

1098
01:15:55.119 --> 01:15:57.359
but it's still there's still a lot
of work to do, and so

1099
01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:03.359
it just I think people need to
walk away with the understanding that this started

1100
01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:09.439
with Sergio, yes, you know, and a lot of the people you

1101
01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:13.920
know, Yes, like Gloria did
some really atrocious things that she should be

1102
01:16:13.920 --> 01:16:18.840
accountable for, same for every other
person who was manipulated by him in some

1103
01:16:18.920 --> 01:16:25.640
capacity, Like you're not absolved of
the sin essentially just because you were victimized

1104
01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:30.159
too. So, you know,
hopefully, I can't wait to hear part

1105
01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:34.199
two. Yes, yes, and
before we go, do you have anything

1106
01:16:34.199 --> 01:16:40.800
to plug my life? Yes,
it's it's good. No was kidding?

1107
01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:45.760
Oh yes, I will say that. I really I joined forces with a

1108
01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:49.000
cast and podster and released a new
true crime podcast. If you listened to

1109
01:16:49.239 --> 01:16:54.680
Crimes of Passion back in the day, it's kind of similar in the same

1110
01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:59.079
vein, not as focused on relationships
or anything like that, but definitely some

1111
01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:04.119
strange and interesting cases. It's called
Tracing Darkness and it releases every Thursday.

1112
01:17:04.600 --> 01:17:08.359
And then, of course, you
know, we're all collaborating across the board

1113
01:17:08.359 --> 01:17:12.960
from the paranormal side as we go
into our holiday breaks and doing feed drop.

1114
01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:16.199
So listeners of my podcast, it's
Haunted, What now, we'll hear

1115
01:17:16.359 --> 01:17:23.439
episodes from you our friend Aiden at
Susto and then another podcast, one Strange

1116
01:17:23.479 --> 01:17:26.439
Thing, and so you know it's
going to have some good fun for the

1117
01:17:26.439 --> 01:17:29.840
holiday season. Thing. We won't
leave our listeners hanging, which is always

1118
01:17:29.840 --> 01:17:32.760
a nice little treat that reminds me, have I sent you my episode?

1119
01:17:32.880 --> 01:17:35.920
You have not? Let me do
that. Let me do that when we

1120
01:17:36.119 --> 01:17:41.399
hang up here. Okay, okay, she said, okay, okay,

1121
01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:45.760
yes, and yeah, I'm excited
for PARTI to have you everyone check out

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01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:47.600
Lady's podcast all of her work.
It's a lot. I know, it's

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like everyone plug it. Just click
the link in my bio. Yeah,

1124
01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:57.920
yeah, ooh, spooky recommendations.
I will say, I just watched The

1125
01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:02.039
Exorcist Believer. Oh how is that? I've heard good things. I think

1126
01:18:02.039 --> 01:18:04.800
it's on Peacock now or Max.
I can't remember which one. Peacock,

1127
01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:09.119
right, yeah, yeah, Peacock. It's actually not bad. This is

1128
01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:12.159
what I would say. I love
the original Exorcist. Like I went to

1129
01:18:12.199 --> 01:18:15.000
the movie theater to watch it.
Not the original obviously because I'm not one

1130
01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:21.319
hundred years old, but no shade, but to the one that was like

1131
01:18:21.319 --> 01:18:26.479
the twenty fifth anniversary or whatever,
like when and saw that. So like,

1132
01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:30.760
I'm an originalist when it comes to
the Exorcist franchise and movies, and

1133
01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:33.880
I thought they did a really good
job. I was disappointed with some things,

1134
01:18:33.960 --> 01:18:38.680
but not surprised because it's a remake, you know, or it's a

1135
01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:42.840
it's a new thought on the Exorcist
and how it works. But I thought

1136
01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:45.279
it was I thought overall it was
good. I would give it to a

1137
01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:49.439
spookies, Okay, like that.
It's not bad. Two point five is

1138
01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:53.239
Spookies. You know that's not bad. Yeah, I'll definitely, I'll definitely

1139
01:18:53.239 --> 01:18:56.680
watch it. It's a good Christmas
movie, good snuggle, snuggle and cuddle

1140
01:18:56.760 --> 01:19:00.119
movie. You know, put on
your Christmas pajamas and your hot cocoa with

1141
01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:05.800
the family. Nothing says nothing says
Christmas quite like the Devil, quite like

1142
01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:11.520
Satany. Yeah, well, thank
you so much. Yes, thanks for

1143
01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:14.880
having me. And yeah, everyone, I don't know, I don't have

1144
01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:16.800
like a cheesy line to end this
on, so just stay a spooky hold

1145
01:19:16.840 --> 01:19:21.960
on, hold on, think of
something ghosty like instead of ho ho ho

1146
01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:27.560
go ghost Okay, I'm good,
No go, all right, gotta go,

1147
01:19:27.800 --> 01:19:34.800
no say speaky. We'll got everyone
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1148
01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:41.000
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1149
01:19:41.039 --> 01:19:45.640
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01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:49.560
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