July 25, 2025

The Pucheta Alien Abduction and the Case of Mauricio Leal

The Pucheta Alien Abduction and the Case of Mauricio Leal
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Sergio Pucheta was living a normal life in Argentina, until everything changed in 2006. He was on patrol when he encounted two glowing lights. In this episode, Carmen shares a UFO case from Argentina and I share the case of Mauricio Leal from Colombia

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Hello, Hello, This is Christina and Carmen and this is

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another episode of As Pooky Tells, a podcast for all

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things spooky, hunted, places, myths, legends, per normal and true

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crime that has to do with Latin America. And today

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we have a ufolk story. I feel like it's been

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a while. Yeah, and then a true crime case from Columbia, Columbia.

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Thank you. Wow, I forgot, I forgot what we were doing.

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But sorry, I can't talk right now. My meds are

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wear enough. So this is how it's going to go today. Then, yes, yes,

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Before we get into our two topics, we do have

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a listener story to read. And if you want to

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send us your story for us to read, you can

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email as Pooky Tales at gmail dot com. You can

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DM us on any of our socials, you can submity

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on Discord, you can call our Spooky hotline. And yeah,

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are you ready for the listener story? Are you ready

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for the listener story? That's the question? Yes? Okay, So

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this is from Jason Cordova. It was a peaceful evening

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at my family's mountainside home, overlooking the Roaring Fork River

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at Pyramid Peak and imposing rock formation reminiscent of the

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Devil's Tower. Oh, do you know the Devil's Tower? I don't,

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Do you know the muffin Man? Yes? I was about

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ten years old at the time, and I had a

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friend over for a sleepover. We were up late talking

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when through the window we noticed a strange light emerging

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from behind a nearby hill. Both of those are fascinated

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by aviation, so we quickly recognized that it couldn't be

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in aircraft because it only had one light and it

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was the wrong color. Our curiosity grew as a light

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suddenly changed direction and began zig zagging across the field,

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then across the river toward our apartment building. The object

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stopped abruptly, hovering just a few feet away from our window.

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We could see the reflection of its amber colored light

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on the river below. The object appeared to be a

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three foot diameter glass sphere with an amber colored light

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emanating from its center. So detailed, I know. Overwhelmed with excitement,

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I ran to my dad's room to tell him about

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the site. Unfortunately he was too tired to come see

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for himself. What time was it? I would have gone,

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I mean, I know, who knows if it was like dadda,

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I'd be like, okay, yeah. Our returned just in time

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to see the objects speeding off along the river to

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the south before vanishing from sight, leaving my friend and

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I staring in an awe out of the window. Shaken

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and bewildered. We decided it was time to try and

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get some sleep. The next morning, my friend went home

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before breakfast and we never spoke about the sighting again. However,

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my dad did ask me about it, and it helped

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me investigate whether it could have been a reflection of

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headlights or something else. We even tried to produced the

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phenomenon using flashlights, but we're unable to recreate what I

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had seen. So scientific. I love this Dad just like

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encouraging its, like, well, let's see if it could have

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been this or this. Yeah. So like it's fine that

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he was too tired to get up to go see

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because it's probably, like I said in Madrugada Krakadon type

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of thing. And but he was interested after that, trying

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to help out, trying to you know, let's try this,

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let's try that. Yeah. So that's I love this. And also, yeah,

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that was a ufone for sure. Oh yeah, definitely the diigzagging. Yeah,

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the one light emanating the amber light emanating from the

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center at the sphere. Yes, absolutely. Okay, are you ready

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for our paranormal case. Yeah, speaking of extraterrescuo and UFOs

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and stuff. Yeah, that's what we're talking about today. We

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are talking about the City Yo Puchetta abduction. So twenty

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eight year old Saidhiyo Puchta lived a normal life in

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the Argentine region of La Pampa, a mostly rural area

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full of vast land and cattle ranches, before his life

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changed on March second, two thousand and six. Said Kio,

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who was a corporal police officer for the region's Anti

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Livestock Theft Division, began his shift around seven to thirty

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pm on the evening of his alleged alien abduction. On

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this day, Saidhio patrolled a slightly different route than he

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normally did after agreeing to cover for a colleague who

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had taken the day off. And if that colleague had

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not called off or maybe had a vacation, I don't know,

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I don't know, I don't know. I don't know the situation.

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But if you had been there, this wouldn't have happened

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to Sehkio exactly. It's always whenever there's like but that

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day he went a different way. That day was different.

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It's always a recipe for disaster before the paranormal, a

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recipe for alien abduction, yes, said Huo. Began his shift

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by hopping onto his Honda one fifty motorcycle and driving

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eighty kilometers before stopping at an intersection called cruse Alaskagnes.

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Once there, said Hio noticed a glowing light from the woods.

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Thinking the lights might be coming from poachers, said Jo,

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stop to investigate, got to stop those cow thieves, you know,

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doing his job. He got off his bike and looked

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around for a bit, but hopped back on to resume

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his route after convincing himself it was nothing. It's never

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nothing chinks. Yes, that's when he was quickly paralyzed by

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two glowing lights dangling fifty meters away from him. The

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glowing red lights left said Hio, dumbfounded and unable to move.

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He later claimed that at this point he felt a

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tingling sensation all over his body, and he felt he

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was in a trance. Scary. His mouth to scream for help,

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but was unable to speak. An unknown force then removed

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his phone and wepened away from him. Sidhio doesn't remember

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entirely what happened next, but according to his colleagues, said

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Jo called dispatch and asked for a backup after seeing

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something very strange. He then went silent and the call dropped. Oh.

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Despatch tried calling Seho back several times, but he didn't

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pick up. This worried the command center and they sent

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three police cars to search for Seihio. When the officers

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arrived at Saidho's last known location, they were met with

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an eerie silence. Oh like he wasn't there. Eerie. Oh.

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The officers attempted to radio said Hio again, but they

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received no response. The officers then pulled out their flashlights

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and dispersed in search of Sehio. A few minutes later,

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one of the officers yelled for the others to come

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to his location. Lying right in front of the officer

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was said Jo's disassembled gun and phone, but no said

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he insight. Oh my god, this is so weird. The

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officers were now sure some sort of foul play was

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involved and launched a major search for their missing colleague.

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They fenced off the area to protect evidence and called

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on all available officers to join the search. As the

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search continued throughout the night, officers found said He was footprints.

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They followed them, but they were scattered, which made it

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difficult for officers to figure out where the hell Said

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Jo went. Yeah, this is just it's getting more and

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more weird. Yeah. And so the search came to a

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hall around two am, when rain erased the footprints and

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made it impossible to continue to follow them. I just

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need to say that Daryl from The Walking Dead would

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have still found those footprints. Yeah, and said Jo wouldn't

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be found until four pm the next day. Oh wow.

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And he was found by a farm owner named Luis

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Alberto Barbero, who said he found said Jo sitting with

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his face and his arms on the side of the

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dirt road. Oh like fetal position maybe, hmmm, No, sitting

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my bad yeah. Like yeah, you're crying into your knees, yeah,

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in which I wouldn't do if I'd just been taken

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by aliens. Oh yeah. So Luis Alberto approached Said Jo

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and asked him questions but said he'll remained silent. And

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this alarmed that Lose Alberto, and he called the authorities.

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A few minutes later, several officers and an ambulance surrounded

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the location. Said he'll remained silent and it'd be a

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few hours before he fully regained consciousness. When he finally did,

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Saidhio hugged his fellow officers and burst into tears. Oh

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At the hospital, doctors found the burn marks on said

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Jo's feet that were described as blisters with small white

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dots in the middle. Oh odd very said Jo had

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also inexplicably become sensitive to light and asked to be

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moved to a dark room because the light would hurt

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his eyes. You know, I bet those aliens just have

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like these flashy in fluorescent lights in his face like

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all night, like operating on him or some shit. An

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official investigation into the incident hadn't uncovered any new information

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or answers about what had happened to set Hyo. When

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interviewed by officials, Saidho claimed he only remembered pieces of

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what happened to him. He describes seeing the countryside from

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above and feeling like his feet were burning. Said Kiyo

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was unable to recover and heal from the trauma he

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went through that night, and in twenty thirteen, he was

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forced into mandatory retirement. Saidhio has now returned to the

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location of the incident and claimed it's because he's afraid

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it'll happen again, which makes perfect sense to me. I

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wouldn't go back either, No, of course not. It's wild.

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These all these abduction stories are the same, where like

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whoever was taken, their life is a bruined, like they

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don't continue their careers. They're traumatized, and they're crazy too. Yeah,

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and that's why I love the show that was like

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I forgot the name of the show, and then it

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was canceled, so there's no ending to it. But there's

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this like support group for abductees of aliens, and so

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it's a very fun show but like you know what

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they need that all right, Well, we'll take a little

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break here and then we'll be back with my true

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crime case. Okay, and we're back, and today I am

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talking about the case of Mauricio from Colombia. And when

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I'm not looking for infuriating stories because they're infuriating because

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they involved the aborbitual or police harming us, then I

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just find I like to find stories that I just

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didn't hear about before because they're not like, well, known

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in the US, so that's one of these. On the

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twenty second of November of twenty twenty one, Mauricio Leal,

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a famous hair stylist in Colombia, was supposed to have

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arrived at a meeting about styling Miss Universo contestants, but

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he never arrived. His driver, Jahied tried calling and calling

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but there was no answer, which was weird because Mauricio

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always had his phone and he also never missed imprint

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meetings like this one. Finally, Yaid was able to get

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in touch with Maurisio's brother, Johniere, who was living with

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Maurisio at the time. Jihne yaid he was at home,

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but they could meet at their house at two pm.

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And when they met at Mauricio's condo in the municipality

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of La Calera in Gundi, Marca, Colombia, they went inside.

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Everything looked fine, like it was clean, but a little

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too quiet. Am I wrong to be suspicious already? Of

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whoms of Jonnier? I'm cutting that? All right? No, leave it,

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leave it? Yeah, So they again it was a little

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too quiet. They walked through. They tried to open Maursio's room,

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but the door was locked. So then they went through

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a window and they walked into a terrible, terrible scene.

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Oh no, Mauricio and his mom mar Lenni et Nandez

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were dead on the bed. Oh wow. Yeah. She had

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been covered with the sheet, but Mauricio was not. There

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was a visible stab wound to his chest and another

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in his stomach, like the knife was still there in

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his stomach. When he saw this, Janet yelledas Mao capasso,

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what happened, mau what happened? But just like like over

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yelling like but of course it's it's your brother. You

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know you're gonna I don't know react yeah, oh oh sorry.

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Yaid is the driver. For a second I thought he

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was the brother, but Maudi's okay, okay, got it. Yeah,

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Yaid is the driver. And Janiette is the brother of Maurisio,

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who was the one yelling kipaso mao when he saw

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all this. So who is Mauricio. Mauricio Leal was born

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November twenty fourth, nineteen seventy four, in Cartago, Baye del Cauca, Colombia,

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and he lived most of his life in El ech

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Cafetero or the Coffee Axis, a region of Columbia that

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covers the departments of Caldasa, Risa, Ralda, and Quindio. He

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was the youngest of three siblings and the three were

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mostly raised by Matt Leni. Their dad was in and

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out of the picture for a while, and from his

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early childhood, Mauricio showed in affinity for hairstyling. He loved

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watching the difference a haircut made in someone's life. I

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love that too, man, I like, I love That's why

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I love makeover shows because even when they get the

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clothes wrong, usually the hair is right, and it literally

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takes like decades off sometimes of someone's appearance. And I

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just I love a hair yeah, refresh makeover hmm. And

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the right haircut could bring so much joy and confidence

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to a person. Yeah. And he saw this and Madlenni,

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his mom, seeing this, enrolled herself in beauty school, hoping

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that Maurisia could join her, but also to make money,

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you know, because she needed to provide for the family.

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That's cool though, Yeah, And unfortunately he wasn't allowed inside,

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but he would watch from the window. So every day

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he would go with his mom and he would just

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stand out the window watch. Yeah, soaking it all in

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from outside. Damn. At some point you'd be like, just

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let this damn kid in please, I know, but they

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did it, would think. Then at fifteen, their lives changed forever.

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Their father abandoned the family for good this time, and

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now Mauricio felt responsible for providing for the family. They

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moved to Santiago, Decali, and there he began to work.

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He would wake up at three in the morning to

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sell adipas to his neighbors. Damn, that's early. Then he

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would go to school. Then after school he would work

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in packaging. Wow, he only slept like four hours a

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night to be able to do all of this. Oh

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that is not nearly. No sleep. No. And then during

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all this, Maldicio met a woman in church and he

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was talking about his love for hairstyling, and the woman

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then helped him get a job at a friend's hair

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salon as a helper, so he would wash hair and

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sweep and he spent a month working at this hair

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salon watching every hairstylist, studying them. Then he went up

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to the owner and asked him to let him work

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as a hairstylist, like, give him his shair. I love that. Yes,

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the owner was hesitant because they had only been a

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month and like, yeah, it doesn't seem like a long

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time at all. You know what the confidence If you

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don't ask for something, you're not going to get it.

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And what's the worst they can tell you, Like our

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dad always is no. Yeah. Yeah, like if you don't ask,

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the answers no anyway. Yeah. And so the owner told Mauricio,

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all right, well give me a hair cut, like, let

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me see your skills, and this was yeah, I would

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never put him to the test. And this was Mauricio's

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first time officially holding a pair of scissors, and he

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did so good. The owner was like, here's your chair.

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He's a natural. Yeah. All those lessons from the window

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really paid off. Yeah, a prodigy. Wow. Despite not having

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official training, he soon became the most sought after hair

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stylist at that hair salon, and he was booked and busy.

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The busiest customers only wanted him. Damn. He got a

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huge raise and through the years he built loyal clients

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who encouraged him to open his own hair salon, and

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his coworkers were a little jealous. You know, who wouldn't

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be a natural you'd been there years and then suddenly,

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this kid would never held a better scissors is better

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than you. Damn. I'd be low key jealous too. Yeah.

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And at home, while his mom was so proud of him,

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his brother Johniette, was also a little jealous. Oh no,

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you know what, There's some people that are just so

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charismatic and talented that they drive everyone around them to

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be jealous. I'm not one of them. I'm not saying

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that's me. I'm just saying that some people are like that. Yeah,

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And some people are so full of like lows of

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fustine that they can't help. But they can't be happy

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for that person. They have to be jealous. And I

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think that was the case here with Johniette or something.

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But none of this stopped Maudisio. At twenty two, he

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opened Mauris That's Young in the Santa Monica neighborhood of Galli,

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and he was known as the best of the best,

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and he was so booked they had to hire more employees,

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including his own brother, Johniette. Eventually he moved to Bogata,

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where he opened another hair salon and more clients began

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to arrive, and by now Colombian actresses, singers, and beauty

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queens were regulars of his sam So then he started

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getting spotlights and local magazines, TV shows and movies. I

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love that. And even though his fame was growing, everyone

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described him as like still this very humble kind person.

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I knew. I knew there would be no other description,

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right right, need Yeah, And he wanted more, and together

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with the friend slash client of his, he opened a

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salon in Miami, Miami, see Miami. But this unfortunately didn't

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go as planned because he had no idea that this

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friend of his had ties with drug traffickers, so as

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in her her own Poppy was in a US prison

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for drug trafficking charges, not a cartel napple baby. Yeah,

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I feel like she should have disclosed this, I mean,

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by the way, I think so. And because of those

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ties with her, he ended up in what was called

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the Clinton List. And I didn't know that that's what

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this was called, at least in Latin America. That's what

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it's called. It's a list of people or entities that

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the Office of Foreign Assets Controlled keeps. And this list

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of people or entities have been designated as engaged in

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specified criminal activity and thus forbidden to enter the US

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and forbids anyone from doing business with them, and so

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then his accounts were all frozen because of this. But

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he was able to you can leave this list. You

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can prove that you don't have anything to do with this,

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and so he did that. He got out of the list.

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But during all this, with his businesses and everything on hold,

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he took removed himself from his business and put his

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mom in charge, and then hired lawyers, and he was

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able to prove his innocence and he was delisted, meaning

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removed from said Clinton list. But for some reason, the

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fact that he put his mom in charge during all

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this and not Johniette made his brother Johnie so jealous

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and resentful. Wow. Yeah. Once Mauriso was able to he

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returned to Colombia and continued working, bought a condo where

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he and his mom moved into, and in the meantime,

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Johniette decided to go at it on his own without

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his brother, but he wasn't anywhere near as successful. He

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had to close his salon in twenty twenty because it

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just wasn't making enough money or any really. Maunicio, on

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the other hand, was swimming in success. He had just

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been hired to do Tilda Swinton's makeup Whoa for the

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twenty twenty one film Memoria, which was like a shorten

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film Festivals, so like an independent film or something like that. Yeah,

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but like huge deal mm hmm. And he was now

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through seven. He reached the success that he always wanted,

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once again, much better off than Johnid, who had actually

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just asked to move in with Maudisio and his mom

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after his relationship didn't work out, and Maudisio, well after

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his salon and his relationship didn't work out. Maudisio of

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course said yes. And so this takes us to November

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twenty second, twenty twenty one. Maudisio, again at the top

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of his game, was set to do the makeup for

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Missuniversoon at six nineteen in the morning, Yaid, the driver,

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got a text message from Maudisio telling him to just

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meet him straight at the salon because he was going

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to sleep in And this again was weird because Maudiso

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never did this, And once he got to Yaid got

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to the salon, Maurisiol did not show up, and Yaid

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and his daughter, who his daughter helped at the salon.

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They tried calling and calling and it wasn't until eleven

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am that morning that they were able to Contactjohniete, who

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agreed to meet them at the condo at two pm.

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And so, you know, like I said earlier, once they

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met there, joaniet he was the one who was like strongly,

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not strongly, but like really telling yaid, like just go

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through a window, like the doors locked, just go through

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the window. Like he didn't go through his window himself.

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He told ya to do it right. It's strange. And

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that's where they came across the scene of the crime.

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And so when they entered and first saw the horrible,

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horrible scene of like Melicio and his mom dead, they

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also saw that there was a glass of wine on

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the dresser next to the bed, and sleeping pills and

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a letter or a note, and so they called the police,

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who then arrived at four pm that day. They found

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that two knives were used as the murder weapons, as

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well as they were there to you know, collect evidence.

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So the note on the dresser was collected and then

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here's what it said, ola as Janos Nadia sabe load

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yo macao and cuccios amis so renoso on se And

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then you know in English, hi to everyone, forgive me.

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I can't do this anymore. No one knows everything about anyone.

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I have just stabbed myself with knives for my nephews

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and my brothers. I leave them everything with all my love.

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Forgive me, mom. Eleven twenty four does not seem like

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a well thought out no at all. Stabbing oneself, I

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think is not that common of a way to end

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one's life. So exactly, the numbers on the note ended

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up being the pain to his phone, and this read

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like a suicide note. But investigators and like basically everyone

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were very skeptical. The handwriting did match Maudisio's, but things

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didn't add up. It was written in a rush, they

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could tell that, so they believed that he had been

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forced to write this before being murdered. And when investigators

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questioned Yaid, the driver, he mentioned that Johniette pressured him

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to go through the window, and he also mentioned the

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message he received at six nineteen in the morning and

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how it just didn't seem like it had been written

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by Mauricio and it was out of character. When investigators

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questioned johnieed, he seemed so confident, and he told him

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that he took sleeping pills and he didn't hear anything

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during the night, and then in the morning he left

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and he didn't know what happened. Sure, but you know,

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Junior's statement just kind of like all fell apart. When

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the autopsy results were done on the twenty fourth of November,

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and as the investigation continued, it was disc that Marleni

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had been stabbed four times in her sleep. Mauricio had

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fought his attacker and had been stabbed four times in

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the abdomen, which of course is like does not match,

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Like why would he stab himself four times to kill himself?

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Like that doesn't make it, doesn't know. From the aptosi,

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they could tell that two separate knives had been used

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to stab Maurisio, and again that just doesn't add up

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with suicide, Like how would he stab himself one three

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times with a different knife, then go to the kitchen,

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grab a different knife, sit down on his bed again,

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stab himself and then leave that knife in there, Like

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it absolutely didn't add up. Yeah, And then there was

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a toxicology report. It came up that Maurisio and his

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mom had a lot of zopiclone in their system, and

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this is the sedative used to treat insomnia, and so

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they were like, yeah, at the time of death, Johniette

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was for sure home and like he should have heard something, right. Friends,

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longtime clients of Maurisio, took to social media to post

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to post about the loss and how much Mauiso would

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be missed and just all good things about him, of course,

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and absolutely no one believed that it was suicide. Investigators

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were looking for like potential enemies of Mauricio or like

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rival hairstylists, anything that would lead them to the killer,

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but they figured it had to be someone close because

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there was no signs of force entry. The knives came

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from the kitchen. Meanwhile, all mean, like aside from that,

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johni ed kept talking to the media about how he

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would take over his brother's hair salon now in his absence,

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and he was the one repeating how Mauricio killed their

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mother and then himself Wow, all while wearing Maudsio's favorite jacket. Man,

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it's like, it's just not like you God for him. No.

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Investigators in the meantime had finally gotten access to surveillance

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from the condo and so they saw that on the

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twentieth of November, at nine fifty one, pm, Maudisio had

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gotten home. Then at ten fifty five pm, about an

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hour later, Johniette got home and the next day Johaniette

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was seen leaving on the twenty first at noon to

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buy food. He was back at two pm. At six

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pm he left for a party. This is all in

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the twenty first. While at that party, he received a

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voice note that was for Maudisio asking him to stop

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for some cookies on his way home, and that was

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proven to be him. He was actually the one to

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send that voice note, just asking for cookies. So he

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was like pretending to be no, no, no, it was him.

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Oh it was Maodisio. Yeah, oh, asking for cookies. So

446
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:51.759
that shows that at he was still alive at that point, Yes,

447
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:55.799
he was still alive. And at eleven thirty seven on

448
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:58.799
the twenty first, Joaniette is seen returning to the condo.

449
00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:03.400
The result of the autopsy, it was discovered that the

450
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:06.920
double murder had to have taken place between eleven forty

451
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:10.720
five pm and five fifty three in the morning. And

452
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:14.039
again it was six fifteen when Yaid received that alleged

453
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:18.279
text for Maudisio, and so then Johniette is seen leaving

454
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:21.559
at eleven thirty seven on the twenty second, the day

455
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:25.200
he texted Maudisio that he wasn't home around that same time,

456
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:28.960
but he was home. He had just left. Wow. So

457
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:32.359
surveillance tapes proved that Johniette was the only one who

458
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:36.240
had entered the condo and exited like several times. No

459
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:39.160
one else was there except him and then obviously Maudisio

460
00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:43.440
and his mom. They also found mad Lennie's blood on

461
00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:47.319
one of Johnier's towels, and they found cleaning supplies and

462
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:50.200
a mop in Johnia's room which normally were kept like

463
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.200
in this central closet where the cleaner accessed all this stuff.

464
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:57.759
Makes sense. Yeah. They also found that mad Leni had

465
00:28:57.759 --> 00:28:59.680
been murdered in another part of the house and then

466
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:04.000
to Maudiceo's bed, So at this point they were definitely

467
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:07.079
focusing on Johniette as the main and soul suspect of this.

468
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:09.799
They found that he had some cuts on his arms

469
00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:11.599
and he was like, oh, this this is from work.

470
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:14.880
I'm a hairstylist, I work with sancers, but no, they

471
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:17.799
were defensive wounds of likely from the fight with Maudicio.

472
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:21.440
And then they looked through his financials, and they saw

473
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:25.960
that he was in serious debt, very serious debt. They

474
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:28.079
also proved that he had not been asleep during the

475
00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:31.079
time of the murders like he had first claimed, because

476
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:34.000
they like checked his phone records and he was on

477
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:37.519
social media most of the night. Oh wow, except except

478
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.119
when he was killing them, for the hours the potential

479
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:44.599
hours of the murder murders taking place. So like, again,

480
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:49.079
none of this is looking good. So then on January fourteenth,

481
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:52.559
twenty twenty two, he was officially charged with both murders

482
00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:55.720
and his arrest was ordered and when police arrived, he

483
00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:58.559
he didn't resist anything. He asked for a plea deal

484
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:02.960
instead that he would declare himself guilty for a shorter sentence,

485
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:08.640
And then on the twenty ninth of March he accepted

486
00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:11.799
the charges. He apologized to the public. So like, it's

487
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:16.160
looking like, yeah, he's accepting guilt or admitting guilt. Yes,

488
00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:19.079
But then the following month his lawyer was like, Nope,

489
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.920
we're not accepting the deal and mcclent is not guilty, buddy,

490
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.599
that isn't a word. Doesn't work like that. You already apologized, Yeah,

491
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:28.559
if you hadn't done anything, why were you why were

492
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:32.400
you apologizing? You know, right, So then the trial proceeded

493
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:35.240
and like details came out during the trial that again

494
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:37.680
was like there's no other way that this was anyone else.

495
00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:42.119
It was found that the sleeping pills that they had

496
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:49.119
been drugged were Junior's of course, like who else, And

497
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:54.200
then that yeah, he killed his mom first, then maud

498
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:57.480
Coco his brother, when he tried to stab madi Ceo.

499
00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:00.160
That's when he woke up. They fought. He met It's

500
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.279
just dab Maudis with the same knife he had used

501
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:05.440
on their mom, and Maloriso was still alive. Johnia had

502
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:08.000
ran to the kitchen to grab a different knife, and

503
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:10.480
this is when he forced Maudisio at knife point to

504
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:13.880
write that note that was in his handwriting but was

505
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:17.160
like supposed to be a suicide note, but of course

506
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:23.680
it just was like not. Yeah, after the note was written,

507
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:27.079
then he sabbed him again finally like killing him, and

508
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.440
then he tried to clean the area move is then

509
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:34.400
that's when he moved his mom to Madiso's bed from upstairs.

510
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:38.400
So like because people were like, well, why did he

511
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:40.000
kill his mom when din't he just killed Maody? So

512
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.640
if he wanted Melodys's money, but he needed her out

513
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:44.920
of the way too because last time Malodiso because the

514
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:48.359
money would go to him. Yeah, last time Madiso's businesses

515
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.359
were in trouble, he left everything to his mom and

516
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:53.480
so Johnia was like, I don't want that to happen again,

517
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:55.279
and that's why he had to do it to both

518
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:59.319
of them so he could have everything. Yeah, and still

519
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:02.319
he tried to not guilty again in March twenty twenty three,

520
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:06.000
which only delayed the trial even more. In September of

521
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:08.400
twenty twenty three, there was like a new witness suddenly.

522
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:12.359
Her name was Francisca Terre Si Munos, and she said

523
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.200
she had remained silent for months because someone threatened her

524
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:17.720
and her son, but now she was sick and didn't

525
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:19.160
have a lot of time left, so she felt like

526
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.440
she needed to talk. And so she said that Maudisio's

527
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:26.960
half brother, So the other brother was in jail for

528
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.279
abusing a minor and he had been calling her from

529
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:34.559
jail to ask her to talk to his mom to

530
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:36.240
let him out, which I don't even know how that

531
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:40.799
would work. So like Madiso's half brother had been calling

532
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:43.720
this woman. Yeah, it could even be built out, Like,

533
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:47.400
is that what you're sounding? Yeah, maybe that's all I

534
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:49.359
could find about this, And I'm like, what does this mean?

535
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:51.599
So maybe it was bailing him out. I'm not sure.

536
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.200
It sounds like that would be the most likely that

537
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:57.279
makes that makes sense? Yeah, and his because his mom

538
00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:00.519
wouldn't do that. And so then he was threatening that

539
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:03.599
when he finally served his time, he would kill his

540
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:06.720
mom and his brother, both of them. But this ended

541
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:12.359
up being like a fake testimony. Oh so she was lying. Yeah, why,

542
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:16.720
I don't know. I could not find more information. Maybe

543
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:20.160
someone paid her, I don't know, or maybe maybe she

544
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:23.680
just wanted I don't know. I don't know, but it

545
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:27.599
wasn't true. But this delayed, like the trial even more.

546
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:29.599
I don't know if it's like the system there they

547
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:32.440
have to like investigate every new appeal or what. Because

548
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:35.559
by January twenty four, twenty twenty four, there was yet

549
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:41.720
another trial. Oh wow. And during this trial, Junior's lawyers

550
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:43.599
were trying to say, like he needed to go free

551
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:46.480
because this trial was going nowhere. The judge was like, no,

552
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:50.119
we're investigating this. This is being declined. He's not being

553
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:54.200
let go for time served. Like no, And then in February,

554
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:59.240
a new trial began and so he had been charged

555
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:03.519
with both me along with the obstruction of justice. He declared

556
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:09.119
himself not guilty again after prosecution presented their evidence. It

557
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:13.039
was pretty obvious to the judge who then declared him

558
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:16.559
guilty on the twenty sixth of February of twenty twenty four.

559
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:18.760
And I'm like, why did it take so I don't

560
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:23.400
understand why it took so long. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, So, yeah,

561
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:26.320
he was declared guilty. He received a sixty year sentence.

562
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:29.039
The motive had been pretty clear to everyone that he

563
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:31.039
just he wanted his brother's money because he was in

564
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:34.960
severe debt. But Jorniette insisted he was innocent again and

565
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:38.239
he like apparently tried to appeal again, but this time

566
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:41.599
it was like no, They're like no, you're out of appeals, dude, Yeah,

567
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:47.280
like no more. So. Yeah, that was the case of Maurisio. Wow.

568
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:54.800
What a sad case of sibling revalry gone deadly. And

569
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:59.639
I don't know, like what could have prevented such a situation.

570
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:03.679
I don't No, obviously there's something's really wrong with the brother.

571
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:10.400
But right like I wonder what it like if he

572
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:14.199
would just have, like I don't know, enjoyed his brother's

573
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:16.719
success and just like works with him, and like, yeah,

574
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:19.679
but what caused him to be so jealous? You know,

575
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:23.760
like was my attention given? Obviously not to blame the mom,

576
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:27.639
but like you know what I mean, like yeah, or

577
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:30.599
was he just jealous? You know, right, maybe a little

578
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:32.920
bit of both? Who knows? But it is very sad

579
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:36.360
that he Yeah, like I mean again, a life taken

580
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:39.960
too soon? Two lives taken too soon? Oh, two lives

581
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:42.320
of course. Yeah, I was thinking of mounties only, but

582
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:46.559
obviously their mom as well. Yeah, definitely like a lot

583
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:50.440
going on there that like, yeah, who knows how this

584
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:54.800
could have been prevented, but but yeah, it was very

585
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:58.519
clear in like the posts that all his clients and

586
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:03.800
friends made that he was absolute loved and mourned, and like,

587
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:06.159
you know, who knows what else you could have done

588
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:12.360
accomplished if it wasn't for his brother. Yeah, Okay, we'll

589
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:14.639
take a little break here and then we'll be back

590
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:19.519
with spooky recommendations and or something that has brought less

591
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:29.320
bitterness to us more happiness, you know, and we're back.

592
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:33.920
Do you have either one of those? I watched the

593
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:39.320
movie nope. Oh yeah, it's on Netflix. Wait how do

594
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:42.840
you not watch watch it before they watched it? Yeah,

595
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:45.000
you never told me about it. I feel like this

596
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:47.920
is the alien one, right, Yeah, yes I did watch it.

597
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:53.159
O fitting we talked about alien abductions, alien sightings, and

598
00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:58.199
yeah I watched that movie. I loved. Now this is

599
00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:04.000
the sibling dynamic that is normal and healthy. Yes, yes

600
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:06.880
it is. Wow, like that movie has everything we talked

601
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:13.719
about today. Insane. Actually I'm a little scared, what but no,

602
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:18.239
it was really good. It was weird. So it follows

603
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:22.440
to siblings that work with They have like a ranch

604
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:25.519
or something. They work with horses and they use those

605
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:28.599
horses like for movies. They they are like the animals

606
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:30.920
that come out in the movies or whatever. But the

607
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:33.280
movie opens and then it follows them in the ranch

608
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:36.440
when they yeah, because their dad just passed away and

609
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:39.039
they're trying to keep his business. But their dad was

610
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:41.039
the one that was well known for this. And yeah,

611
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:43.480
because the dad can't do this. The dad had like

612
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.760
both of them, right, he was well, obviously they're his kids, right,

613
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:51.320
but he was like disciplined, a leader, but charismatic. So yeah,

614
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:54.599
so the dad like basically has the skills needed to

615
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:56.920
keep this business afloat right and more than a float

616
00:37:56.960 --> 00:38:01.199
but successful. And his kids siblings that don't have that,

617
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:05.199
like the and I forgot everyone's name, so sorry about that.

618
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:08.840
But the brother he has like the discipline and the

619
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:12.400
motivation to keep the up business going. But Christma not

620
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:16.119
the chrisma. He sucks. Everyone hates him. Yeah, And the

621
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:19.239
sister has a Christma but no discipline, no interest. Really

622
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:21.679
she's like, yeah, He's like, you need to stop treating

623
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:23.360
this like a side job. And she's like, this is

624
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:27.639
my side job. So it's key Key Palmer. Yes, yes,

625
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.880
I love Key Palmer and anything everything she's in. Yeah,

626
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:34.199
and so anyway, so it's about them trying to keep

627
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:38.239
up itsiness going, and then it turns out they're not

628
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:41.760
doing too good at that. So then the brother and

629
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:45.079
I forgot his name, like, but he's like in every

630
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:49.679
Jordan Pean movie. Yeah, Daniel, I don't know his laws

631
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:55.719
name coo. Yeah, yah, I don't know. I just said

632
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:59.880
I don't know his last name. Yeah. He to keep

633
00:38:59.920 --> 00:39:02.239
the this is going, he has to sell some of

634
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:05.679
the horses to Stephen and I always say his last

635
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:09.880
name wrong. Oh. From the Walking Den Yeah, and Une. Yeah.

636
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:18.880
He to his little cowboy attraction theme park situation. Very

637
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:25.760
It also reminds me of Trek of what's his name,

638
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:31.239
the short King who far Away Land, his you know,

639
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:34.119
the entrance of his Yeah, that's what reminds me of

640
00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:36.199
But anyway, so he has to sell some horses to him,

641
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:38.159
and then the movie actually opens with the scene of

642
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:41.440
a monkey killing people, and I was like, what's going on?

643
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:44.880
And then so I I'm dumb, So I didn't truly

644
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:47.239
understand that ty In. And then what kind of what

645
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:50.360
it got from it was that Stephen his character. He

646
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:52.559
was on the show right with this monkey who ends

647
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.400
up going crazy or does he go crazy or is

648
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:58.400
he just a monkey? I don't know, but you know

649
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:01.239
what I mean, Well, it's it's all it all has

650
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:05.639
to do with like capitalism and exploitation of animals. I

651
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:10.519
thought my thought was that Stephen because at the end

652
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:16.400
of the monkey's killing rampage, he doesn't kill Steven. Instead,

653
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:19.199
he fizz bumps him and then he gets shot. And

654
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:24.719
so then Steven tries to exploit the alien as part

655
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:27.519
of an attraction for his Cowboy Land or whatever he

656
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:31.360
calls it. Yeah, and his whole his whole situation, his

657
00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:34.559
old his whole business is like, well, yeah, that's besides

658
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:37.400
the point. Yeah, I'm talking about I thought that he

659
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:41.880
My thought process was that maybe he thought because the

660
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:44.519
monkey didn't kill him, he thought he could tame the

661
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:47.719
alien for his Yes, it's all yeah, yeah, you you

662
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:50.000
were spot on. Yeah that's at least that's what I

663
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:53.639
understood from it too. Okay. Yeah, So and then on

664
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:59.079
the other hand, Daniel's character is he actually understands animals.

665
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:00.880
And that's I guess you know what, I did get it.

666
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:03.880
I just hadn't really, I hadn't talk it out, and

667
00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:06.400
I tried to talk it out with Paul, and you

668
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:08.760
know what, He's just not in two movies the way

669
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:11.880
that I am. Right, we need to dissect and yep,

670
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:15.159
for so long should we yap about Nope, not, well

671
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:18.360
I'm already talked about it, so yeah yeah, but but yeah,

672
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:21.000
so even in the beginning when he had he takes

673
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:23.559
his horse to a movie and he tries to like

674
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:26.559
explain like, hey, like the horse is not ready yet,

675
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:28.840
we need to take the horse's cues, and of course

676
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:30.599
the movie people don't listen to him, and the horse

677
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:35.679
ends up blashing out, and because of that experience, then

678
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.039
Daniel's able to put two together and he's like, wait,

679
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:41.519
don't make eye contact with this alien thing, and so

680
00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:44.960
in the end they're able to sort of get rid

681
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:47.400
of it. I did know it's kind of at the end,

682
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:51.519
so I forgot how it ended. I just looked that

683
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:56.039
Kiki did something, so I was like, the big unicorn,

684
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:59.519
not unicorn, like a big cowboy inflatable or something. Yeah

685
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:02.000
like that. But but yeah, it was interesting for a

686
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:06.199
LA movie. It was good. I loved it. Yeah. I

687
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:08.079
do wish I would have seen that in theaters because

688
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:10.519
I feel like the sound design would have been that's

689
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:12.599
where you could just absorb it best, because like you

690
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:14.840
have the big giant speakers and I feel like there

691
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:17.519
would have been like sound from over here and over there.

692
00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:21.639
But I watched it at home, so yeah, I didn't

693
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.280
have that. But yeah, it's it's a pretty good movie.

694
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:35.760
I liked it. I one. I'm currently reading The Buffalo

695
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:39.960
Hunter Hunter by Stephen Graham Jones. It's part of Aiden

696
00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:43.360
Susto's book club, so I'm trying to finish it by

697
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:45.199
the end of this month because then he has he's

698
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:48.199
gonna have like a zoom to discuss it. So if

699
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:51.320
anyone wants to do that with him, go to Susto

700
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:55.039
Socials to check out more info on this. So far,

701
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:58.360
the premise really good. I'm like halfway through it maybe,

702
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:01.519
and I'm really enjoying it so far. It's a different

703
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:05.079
type of vampire story and oh it's vampires. Yes, Okay,

704
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:08.400
I need to listen. I wanted to listen to it,

705
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:12.320
but then I was listening to too many things at once,

706
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.559
or had meme that you sent me about me, like

707
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:18.480
reading a physical book and audiobook and then all your

708
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:22.559
holds coming through through Libby. That's Karmen, It's me anyway,

709
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:26.199
because so yeah, I started reading that, but then also

710
00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:29.199
my hold for how to send it to a dictator

711
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:31.960
came through. Oh so I'm reading that, I said. I

712
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:35.159
also started that, yes, and I started with Chica, but

713
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:38.199
that one I'm just going through slowly because again the

714
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:39.760
library book has a date that I need to give

715
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:42.159
it back. So yeah, that's where I'm at. Because my

716
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:45.599
hold for Julie China's Dead came through, and I meant

717
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:48.239
to start with Chica, but I can't start it until

718
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:51.079
I finished Julie China is dead, and I'm also slowly

719
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:56.760
going through the book forestood as unknown, right, And then

720
00:43:56.840 --> 00:44:00.039
a bunch of holds came through from Libby and and

721
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:01.840
the worst, the worst thing I did to myself was

722
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:05.159
I have another library app. If anyone's in California, by

723
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:06.719
the way, they should check it out. The app is

724
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:09.800
called Palace, and then you search California Bookshelf in the

725
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:14.760
app Palace, and it's for all California residents. But so

726
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:17.639
I'm listening to my work book club book through there,

727
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:21.239
and I was already listening to something else, and then

728
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:23.840
I had a hold come through that I haven't started,

729
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:26.280
but the book's only four hours long. It's called Death Eater.

730
00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:29.039
Have you heard of it? No? Wait, is it Dead Theater?

731
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:31.599
Is it earth Theater? It's not Death Theater? That's Harry Potter. Shit,

732
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:38.559
It's called earth Eater pretty sure? Earth Eater by the Lotos. Yes,

733
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:41.599
So yeah, once I listened to that, I am hoping

734
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:43.559
to talk about it. So yeah, my hold for that

735
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:46.400
came through. And then my hold for I got abducted

736
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.000
by aliens. And now I'm traveling a rom com came through.

737
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.360
That sounds cool, I know, that's I based office title

738
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.079
as I put my hold on it, and uh yeah,

739
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:59.480
so here I am. Yeah, and a reminder, what she

740
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:02.000
got is our current book club book. I haven't sent

741
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:05.760
out the official email to the book club people. I

742
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:08.599
will do that. I keep forgetting, but that is the

743
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:11.199
current book club book. And what else was I going

744
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:13.920
to say? Another role? You just talking about Buffalo lunch?

745
00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:15.719
Or is that all you were going to say? That's

746
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:18.519
different and it's about vampires. Oh yeah, that's all I

747
00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:21.280
was gonna say, because I haven't finished reading it. Oh,

748
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:25.679
but I do have another spooky recommendation, well spooky things

749
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:27.000
that I'm not sure I recommend it. I don't know

750
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:28.599
how I feel about it. I've only watched the first

751
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:32.000
two episodes. But it's a show. It's a show on

752
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:35.920
Hulu called Surreal Estate. I only started watching it because

753
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:41.880
it has Twila from Shit's Creek. Oh and god, what's

754
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:44.599
his name? He was like the first love interest for Alexis.

755
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:49.400
That wasn't Ted. Oh, I'll just say Ted, No, no,

756
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:54.199
not Ted with the beer. Mut Mutt, Yeah, Mutt, Mutt

757
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:58.280
and Twila are interesting. But the whole premise is that

758
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:01.960
he is there real estate agents, but the houses that

759
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:05.239
they deal with are ponted with something and in order

760
00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:07.039
to sell them, they have to like deal with the hunting.

761
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.119
And I'm only like two episodes in, but I mean comedy,

762
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:13.679
it's not like this amazing like yeah, breathtaking like Emmy

763
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:18.000
Award like no, but it's entertaining. And yeah, I also

764
00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:20.239
heard there was Degrassi cast members in it. Is it

765
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:23.760
like a sitcom? No, not a sitcom to come like

766
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:27.400
there's no like, oh, but it's a comedy laugh track. Yeah,

767
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:33.400
I would say like comedy mostly. I'm gonna check itl Hulu. Yes, yeah,

768
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:36.480
real estate. And I heard there was Degrassy actors in

769
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:40.679
it also, and so Shit's Creak and Degrassy actors. But

770
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:42.960
what if Ellie's in it because she was in Shit's Creek,

771
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:47.440
she might be. Yeah, I don't know which de Grassy actors,

772
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:49.599
but for sure Mud from Shit's Creek and twy them

773
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.639
they're the main like they're in the main cast. And

774
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:54.559
I don't know. Hopefully it hasn't been canceled because I

775
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:56.440
hate starting a show and then like it's canceled then

776
00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:59.840
like yeah, no, there's no resolution. But I've been enjoying

777
00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:03.519
that so far. So yeah that I guess that is

778
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:08.840
my recommendation. Then, yeah, anything else to add, No, I

779
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:11.280
don't think so I have one more thing to time.

780
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:13.639
Oh sorry, why do you ask me? Just go ahead.

781
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:18.639
A reminder that if you send us proof that you've

782
00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:22.440
donated to it's on our it's pinned on our stories

783
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.360
on Instagram. But it's an organization that has been helping

784
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:27.599
car washers in LA because they have been the most

785
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:32.440
targeted by deportations since the start of this administration. They've

786
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:35.000
been like they've been facing the most reputations. They just

787
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.039
go there and they detain a bunch of them, right,

788
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:39.440
and so now other car washers are afraid to go

789
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:42.760
to work, and so this organization has been sending groceries

790
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:45.360
and things to help so that they don't have to

791
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:47.760
go to work. And so if you want to help us,

792
00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:51.760
well we've already donated, and again part of Patreon funds

793
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:54.239
do go to that as well. But if you send

794
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:57.440
me like a screenshot of your donation to this organization,

795
00:47:58.000 --> 00:47:59.719
I will send you a sticker, just in a Spooktao

796
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:04.199
stick So yeah, if you do that again, free sticker. Also,

797
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:06.519
you're helping out those who are the most in need

798
00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:09.679
right now, and instead of panicking and you know, driving

799
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:13.039
in despair like sometimes I tend to do this. These

800
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:16.079
are the things we can't do. It's hard, it really is.

801
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:18.880
But yeah, I mean it's like you said, like try

802
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:24.440
to find different ways you can help, and it's okay

803
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:30.440
to be sad and angry, but don't stop there. I guess. Yes, yes,

804
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.400
I just saw this. You know those cheesy memes that

805
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:35.000
are like Mikha, it's okay to cry, but then like

806
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:39.480
ba and keep going. But you know what I need

807
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:43.519
very millennial Latina of you. Yeah, very boss girl, millennial

808
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:48.119
latinam you know. Yeah, but I needed to see it.

809
00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:50.480
So so yeah, that's you know, something that we can

810
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:54.119
all do because yeah, it's hard to see. First I

811
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.320
don't know about everyone else, but like literally just ice

812
00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:59.679
driving down the street. You know, I haven't seen any

813
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:02.639
I have and I'm like, what are they doing here?

814
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:07.079
Get out of here? Yeah. But also just you know,

815
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:11.519
tuning in around you and just seeing people that look

816
00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:14.559
exactly like you all being rounded up, right, And that's

817
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:16.360
it's been a not going issue. Like we have said

818
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:18.719
multiple like sol so many times. Right, we don't like

819
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:21.119
to repeat it now, no, we don't. It's ramping up though,

820
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:23.960
and it's very just it's very difficult to see. I

821
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:28.360
watched the I've been watching Democracy Now videos on YouTube,

822
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:33.440
but man, do I get severely depressed watching them because

823
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:35.679
it's not only the terrible things are going on in

824
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:38.159
the US, but like around the world that they well,

825
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:40.159
I don't know how. And then lady I don't know

826
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:42.960
her name, but I guess she probably is probably a journalist.

827
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.320
She's been doing Democracy Now for like a hell of

828
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:49.519
years now, because I remember watching usually I use I've

829
00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:52.800
used Democracy Now for sources for unknown in the past,

830
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:55.320
but I didn't. I guess I didn't realize that they

831
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:58.079
have a current ongoing like show and that they put

832
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:00.599
clips on YouTube ntil recently. So I've been watching that,

833
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:03.679
and yeah, I remember from a stadis and known for

834
00:50:03.719 --> 00:50:06.760
different topics. It's like stuff from like twenty fifteen years

835
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.559
ago that I've seen. So she's been doing this for

836
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:12.239
so long, and I'm like, how, But anyway, I watched

837
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:16.599
a video from I think it was from yesterday from

838
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.920
time of recording, which is sixteenth of July anyway, in

839
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:22.960
case they didn't want to find it, but it's probably

840
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:25.599
like a twenty minute interview with one of the congressmen

841
00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:32.119
congress people from Florida who went to the concentration camp

842
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:37.039
in Florida. I'm not calling it that stupid name, right,

843
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:41.760
and he is I want to say, he's Cuban or

844
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:46.800
at least like has Cuban heritage or whatever. And he

845
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:50.760
mentions like going in and he's like, I'm one of

846
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:53.480
the only people that like, these people look like me.

847
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:56.679
And I realized I'm one of the only people who

848
00:50:56.719 --> 00:50:59.760
can come in and leave of their own accord that

849
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:02.480
looks like me, like you know what I mean? Yeah, So,

850
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:06.920
like I can't imagine one being there, right, being subjected

851
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:11.760
to the atrocities that the human rights violations and atrocities

852
00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:14.519
that are occurring there for profit, for greed. And then

853
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:19.320
also like when it seeing that and and yeah, looking

854
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:23.559
around and saying these people are me me, they're my family,

855
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:26.079
they're my you know what I mean. And I'm not

856
00:51:26.079 --> 00:51:27.880
going to go on I'm going to cry already cry

857
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:30.760
it earlier today because what did they see every day?

858
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:35.599
Like crying out something at least twice a day. But yeah,

859
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:47.280
we keep going yes, yeah, yeah, and on that depressing notes.

860
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:51.280
Sorry to em there, it is what it is. You

861
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:54.400
know no, it is. It is. There's no denying it, absolutely,

862
00:51:54.400 --> 00:52:00.480
no way to avoid it. Whatever, whatever. All right, we'll

863
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:03.760
be back next week with another paranormal and trogram case.

864
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:07.400
And yeah, other than that, I don't know. I can't

865
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:14.679
even say say a boogie, stay, stay, stay vigilant, stay biting, Yes,

866
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:19.559
bye bye. As Booktells is hosted by Christina and Carmen,

867
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:23.519
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