Jan. 17, 2025

The Haunting of Maria

The Haunting of Maria

When Maria was a teen, an entity began to haunt her every night. 

On this episode, Cristina and Carmen share their mom's very creepy haunting. They translated her story, which was shared last episode. First, they read a listener story. 

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When Maria was a teen, an entity began to haunt her every night.

On this episode, Cristina and Carmen share their mom's very creepy haunting. They translated her story, which was shared last episode. First, they read a listener story.

If you have a spooky story to share, email Espookytales@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at the Espooky Hot Line (360)836-4486. You can also submit it on Discord!

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Hello, Hello. Before the episode starts, we did want to

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share that we have linked some resources for anyone affected

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by the LA fires in our show notes and that

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our hearts go out to everyone affected. The linked sources

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also include gofundmes for Latino families affected by the fires,

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as well as other resources. And I also wanted to

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add that you can find me on PNW Hunts and

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Homicides episode this week. There are podcasts about true crime

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and haunted things in the Pacific Northwest aka Washington, Oregon.

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Whatever else makes part of the PNW I don't know anyway.

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Fun fact, Guadalajara is sister cities with Portland, Oregon, and

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that is why I am on their latest episode, so

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you can check that out at PNW Hunts and Homicides.

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The link is also in the show notes. And one

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more thing, if you recall all an episode we did

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last year, we had Aiden from Susto and Lany from

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its Haunted What Now guests on an episode with us

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because we announced we were starting a podcast called Concitos

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Anonymous where we give people advice, and that is still happening.

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So if you have advice, send it to us. I

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have information in the show notes on how you can

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get that to us. But yeah, all that information is

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in the show notes and yeah, let's get onto the episode. Hello. Hello,

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this is Christina and Carmen and this is another episode

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of spookyto as a podcast for all things as boogie

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true crime in in America today just spoogie. This is

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a little bit of a different episode because one I

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didn't get a true crime story ready because we wanted

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it to be our mom's story by itself. Yeah, because

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that's what we're sharing today. We shared it last week

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where she shared it. We recorded an episode with her

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in Spanish and we translated it for or Spanish Challenge

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friends so that everyone can hear it. We want to

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include everyone in this because the story was traumatizing. It

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really was. It was scary. Yeah, yeah, honestly, up there

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top five scary stories I've heard like people sharing, you know, yeah,

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I would put it up that high. Yeah. So before

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we do that, though, we do have a very short

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listener story. And if you want to share your story

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with us, you can email a spookyo do at gmail

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dot com. You can DM it on Instagram, you can

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use the little contact us form on our website. You

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can call the Spooky Hotline. All of that is in

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the show notes or in the description if you're on YouTube.

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So yeah, all right, let's get into it. So this

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is from Selene. Selene says, I have a few years

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following you on Instagram and listening to your podcast. I

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listen when I'm cleaning or driving. Well, here's my story

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about a few weeks ago. I was on my way

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to pick up my son from basketball practice. My dad

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called me and told me that he couldn't find my daughter.

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I told him, what do you mean, I have her

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with me. He said that when he was getting out

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of the shower, my daughter knocked on the door and

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was yelling Pappy Cruse. I told him he was hearing stuff,

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So you rushed out of the bathroom, went to his

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room and finished getting dressed. But when he was doing that,

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he heard her again and told her hold on. He

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heard her again, Pippy Cruse, and heard when she ran away.

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That's when he opened the door. It didn't see anyone,

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and that's when he called me. But by this time

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I was in line picking up my son, so it

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couldn't have been my daughter. My mom sprayed holy water

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all over the house as she should, Oh my god,

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as she should, and Selene, you had to let us know.

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Is at the end of it, like did you not

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see or did no one see anything or hear anything weird?

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After that? Well, hopefully for her sake, for everyone's sake,

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it was like a one time thing. Yeah, because this

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isn't even like a normal It's like a little maintain,

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like a little ghost. This is yeah, this is a

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minute scarier, right, this is the worst kind. I agree.

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Oh that's creepy. All right, well let's get started with

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our mom's story again. It's horrifying. So I forgot to

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say this in the Spanish episode, but she does mention suicide.

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So I was listening to it this morning and I'm like,

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maybe we should have said asid about that. My bad,

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Oh my god, I can't. Sorry, you need to stop.

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First of all, Okay, it's also if you're not on video,

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this will make any sense. But Christina is making the

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hand motions of Ashley Trebino. They keep popping up on

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my for you page. People keep making this a filter

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and they're like, yeah, oh sorry, if anyone is on

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as talk, you know, you know, yeah, okay, sorry, sorry,

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all right, So yes, content warning for suicide mention of suicide.

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So let's yeah, let's just start again. Very traumatizing story.

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Truly has scared us all of our childhood, and we

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finally heard it all for the first time. Yeah, so

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it all started with our Tia, our mom's oldest sister,

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when she was Tia Ludez. Yeah it's because you know, yeah, sorry,

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I know the name. The other episode we said our

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THEA and then later on we say Tia Ludez and

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we didn't specify who it was, although I feel like

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it was clear because then Yeah, but still, you know,

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it's in the beginning. Yes, so, yeah, it all started

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with Artia Ludez, our mom's older sister. Our mom was

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around eleven, she thinks, but it's all like a blurnow. Yeah,

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I think everyone was older because she said shortly after

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Artia left the house, and I think she left already,

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not as a teen like under age teen. Oh, so

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you know what, she was very older. I think our

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mom said first she said she's eleven, and then she

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was like wait, wait, I'm getting like everything mixed up.

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I think I was like a little bit older, like

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fourteen or fifteen. This would make more sense. Yeah, this

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will make way more sense, because then I would put

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at eighteen or nineteen. Yeah, and they all used to

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live and I think we've said this many times, but

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in Guadalajara, Jalisco, and in Guadalajara they lived in this place.

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We all learned to be Lapencion. They call it lapcion.

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I don't know why. Yes, I'm not sure why. I

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forgot to ask car when we were sitting there. You

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asked me before. She's like, I don't know, we just

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called it that. Yeah, I think you're right. But it

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was pretty much a parking lot with a room with

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a small building and that building was a single room,

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and then right outside of that room was like the

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kitchen area, but it was all outside, and then there

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was an outhouse like a bathroom outside and a big,

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big tree, and it was a pretty big parking lot.

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There was also a like a mechanic shop in the back. Yeah,

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it had a car mechanics shop in it. And then

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it also fit forty cars to be parked there. And

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they got to live there for super cheap, if not free,

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because they took care of the cars and all of that,

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or watched over them. There was always someone there to

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watch over the cars. Yeah, and so basically that was

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their job, Sash. They got to live there to do that.

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But this was like ten people in this room. So yeah,

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because it was just a single room. All the kids

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had bunk beds that they all like shared, except the

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oldest kid got to have like the single bottom bunk

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by themselves, and everyone else shared in his ass. As

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someone left, someone else took over that bunk. Is how

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it worked. Like they got the privilege of having room

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to sleep alone. Right, So Arthia had the bottom bunk

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and her mom had the top one. What she shared

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with someone I don't know which, sister. I want to

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say it is your Dana Avevan, but I'm not sure.

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And there had always been stories about this place Lapenzion,

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like little small things that didn't really bug anyone, like

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oh there's a shadow during the night. Yeah, it was

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always outside, never inside the room, and usually only the

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people who were out super late saw anything. So our Alito,

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our grandpa, and then like two of her uncles, and

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that's how everything was for a very long time, the

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ones that were out there in La Pista, yes piano,

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and so yeah, this is how things were for a

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long time until one night it all changed. Sadly. Everyone

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was asleep and around two thirty three in the morning,

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our Tea lures So, who was alone in the bottom bunk,

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felt like someone sat in her bed and then like

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something was climbing on top of her, which we would

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say celesubmerto or you know, sleep paralysis, and she kept

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trying to scream, and like at first she was paralyzed,

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she couldn't scream. Finally, when she was able to scream,

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everyone woke up, and that was really it. Everyone just

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moved on. They were like, oh, no, something scared her

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at night and okay, and that was that. Yeah, and

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that was that. Things were normal again for a little bit,

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except you know, that was one single strange incident that

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happened inside for the first time. But then she left,

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you know, everyone moved on. She left to go live

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with her boyfriend. And when she left, our mom took

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that bottom bunk. It was like the oldest privilege, so

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she got to sleep in that same spot. And she's

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not sure how much time passed since she took over

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Artia Ludus's bed, her older sister's bed, but after some time,

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the same thing happened to her too, so it was

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two three in the morning. She was asleep. She felt

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someone sit on the bed next to her legs and

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then she felt numb, frozen in place, and it was

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like the numbness went like from her toes to her head,

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like it traveled, and then she was like frozen. She

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couldn't move. She heard whispers in her ear that she

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couldn't understand. Yes, thank you Carmen for that reenactment. As

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far as she as we all know, Artia didn't hear

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the whispers, just our mom. But everything else was pretty

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much the same. And this happened a few times for

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a while, and then she decided like she was going

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to do something for some reason about this the wrong thing. Well,

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and she talked about something that everyone always heard and

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I don't know if they talked about it in church

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or where, but she said it was like common to

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pray for like the lost souls that were in the

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purgatory and stuff like that. So it was like a

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normal belief, I guess. But nobody told her to do

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what she did next though, no, right, so you know,

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with that information she went okay, And so like what

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Karen was saying, there is a specific prayer that like

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you pray to help spirits like move on that are

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stuck in this like realm and you know, this world.

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And she was like, nah, nah, I'll do one better.

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So yeah, she went to the church. She kneeled and

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she said, God, I know there are a lot of

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spirits out there that need help. Send one to me,

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and I will help. Wild behavior, very very wild behavior.

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And this was like mistake number two. Yeah, And I

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mean like, I don't I don't think God would have

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like actually sent someone to her. I think this like

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this thing overheard this somehow or like this was like

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oh yeah I needed this. Oh finally someone. Yes. Yeah.

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Around the same time that all this is taking place,

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somehow the family got they got a Wigi board. She

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doesn't remember how it ended up with them. Maybe someone

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gifted it to our and everyone used to sit around

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and use it together like a family activity. And it

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even became like an extended family like literally everyone. Yeah. Yeah,

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like board game night, but with the Wiji board game night. Yes, yeah.

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Weirdly enough, the punch it only moves when our mom

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was touching it or ar theia that had moved out. Yeah,

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the only two people that slept in that bottom Bunk,

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the only two people that had really prouds this incident. Yes,

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so already like not the signs are pointing to something

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not good. Yes. Eventually the board told them its name

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was Danny, and it also revealed that it was in

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love with Arthia at some point, the one that didn't

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live there anymore. And they all thought if they kept

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using the board Luigi board, it would help them get

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rid of this entity that was coming at night and

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hunting her mom, so then she could finally rest. And

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by this point it was happening every night, the sleep paralysis,

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her waking up screaming and like nobody was sleeping. So

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they kept bringing the board back out and Danny the

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board would tell them. It would give them like instructions,

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like how to get rid of it, and so it said,

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like to be at rest, I need you our mom

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to walk out to the mango tree that's in the

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property and dig. And our grandpa had to be standing

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in the doorway and watching her, but he couldn't go

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with her. She had to go by herself. And then

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she had to go dig until she found the spirit's bones.

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And then once this entity was in a proper resting place,

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like a cemetery instead of under this tree, it could

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finally be at rest. And also that's where it was

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coming from every night. Yeah, yeah, that's where you lived. Basically. Yes,

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our mom would hear the footsteps coming from the tree

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into the room. Then next to her bed is where

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they stopped. And it wasn't just footsteps. She would hear

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crying moans all all the way from the tree to

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her bed. And the crying wasn't it wasn't normal crying.

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It was like, what is the word ethereal? I don't

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know if that's the right word. I feel like ethereal

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means like heavenly to me all least, I don't know

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that's the opposite of ethereal. Yeah, so like like a

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voice or sound that's out of this world, not a

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human voice, but not not ethereal, because that's again that's

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keaviline like hell like hell, I guess yeah, yes, yeah,

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I don't know if you're gonna mention this later. But

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when they at first, they didn't know what this spirit wanted,

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and it couldn't really communicate at first, right, it would

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just like like one word here or there, like help

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aluyah Oh, I didn't even say words at this point. Okay,

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so then it was the Wiji when they were using

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the Wiji board that they already knew what they needed

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to do. It told them on the Wiji board. Yes,

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the Wii board was timing them, yeah, but not Yeah,

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that's how they were getting all this information that I

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remember that. Yeah, all of that was coming from the

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board when they used it. So can you imagine sitting

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there just waiting for all of that to spell out?

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I know that's why I'm like, that doesn't sound right,

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that's so long. But I mean there was plenty of

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people to take notes. Yeah, that's true, you know. So

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she heard this every night and they would stay there

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crying into her ear until like five in the morning,

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like all night. Yeah, so she wasn't sleeping, Yeah, she

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wasn't sleeping. Some nights, instead of standing next to her

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and crying, Celesubia got on top of her, and this

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is when the sleeper loss has happened, and then it

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was just like crying, making like ghostly creepy ass sounds there.

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Other times she would hear steps and then it would

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stop in front of her and then she could just

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feel it staring at her all night. And that's it,

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and just that sensation like when it did whisper, cry

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and moan. She knew it was next to her, but

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she could hear it like inside of her ear, like

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like even better than ear wearing earbuds the way like

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I pictured it, like bat is that a word? Yes,

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not saying that word right, but you know what I'm saying, right,

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I know the word you're trying to say for ptating,

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but that sounds like there's too many letters in the

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riverb reverbating. No, you know what we're trying to say. Yeah, yeah,

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but yeah, that's what I pictured too. So worse, Just

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every little bit of this was worse, but yeah, like

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an echo in her ear. And a neighbor of theirs,

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who was very spiritual, told her mom that she had

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to ask the entity what do you want? Because once

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she could ask it, what do you want, it's the

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entity itself when it came to her, then maybe they

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could get a better insight of how to get rid

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of it. But the problem was that she couldn't ask

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because you couldn't move when it was there. She was frozen.

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She couldn't open her mouth to say any words. Nothing.

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The neighbor told her to do it in her mind

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and then she could find out what it wanted and

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get rid of it. But she was sure if she

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wanted to do that, because then I wouldn't I don't

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know like I would, I wouldn't want to do it. Yeah, no, meither.

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So she went to her grandma Mibela and told her

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what the neighbor had said. And Mibella asked her, like,

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do you have some boyfriend that killed himself or something,

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because he might be trying to force you to join them.

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But our mom didn't like this, couldn't be anyone that

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she knew hunting her. Mabella also told her, like, you

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can do what the neighbor said about asking what it wants,

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but if you do that, there's no going back. You're

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no longer going to hear into un intelligible whispers. You're

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going to hear every word that it's seeing. Clearly, from

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that point on, you have to be very careful if

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you do this, because some entities are only hunting you

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this much because they want you to take their place

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where they are so they can save themselves from being stuck,

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so they can move on. And this is like something

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that is like a Chadro negro you know. Yes. When

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she mentioned that part, I immediately thought of a chad

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On Negro. Yes, And so our mom didn't know what

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to do anymore. She wasn't sleeping, she was losing weight.

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Her dark circle dark circles, like her under eye, it

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was permanently dark. She was desperate. She didn't want to

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go through this anymore. She had even told me Bella

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that she wanted to die because she was so, so,

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so tired and so scared. She dreaded nighttime every day,

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and this night after she left me Belace was no different.

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She laid down to try and sleep, and at some point,

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like every single night, she heard the footsteps coming from

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the tree, eleanto, the cry. Then it this time there

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was chains dragging along worse like every yeah, yeah, so

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now yeah, there's the sound of chains dragging on the

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ground along with the cry, the wailing. She took the breast,

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waiting for it to get to her bed, and when

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it did, in her mind she asked, what do you want?

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And then she heard it clearly say for the first time, hallelujah. Disturbing,

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very disturbing. I almost threw up when I heard it,

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was like, what do you mean that's the first thing

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it said, horrifine, It told her Hallelujah help me, Hallelujah

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help me. It could only say those words. So from

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then on, every single night she would hear the same

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thing coming from the tree, footsteps chains, crying Hallelujah help me,

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Hallelujah help me. But it wasn't even like like the

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way she's she told us. It wasn't like a normal

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Hallelujah helped me. It was like a crying saying the

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words like like wal that way. Yes, yeah, so worse, worse,

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all of it. Yeah, our grandpa decided to go to

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the church to ask for help because, like again, nobody

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was resting at this point, everybody was worried about her.

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She was keeping everyone up. Yeah. Yeah. The priest he

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spoke to was a younger priest, and that priest told

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him the first thing that needed to be done was

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getting rid of that ouijipord, but like actually getting rid

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of it, not just throwing it away, like destroying it.

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And so our grandpa when he got back from the church,

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she told her mom to go and tell them what

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was happening to her, to like get more help, more advice,

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so she did, but unfortunately for her, it wasn't the

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same young priest when she went. It was some old

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geezer yeah, old prick. Yeah. And so when she told

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this priest what was happened to her, the only being

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this priest for Washa, tell me your sins. And she

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said everything again, like please, I don't know what to do.

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I'm not sleeping, no one in my family's sleeping. And

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he said again, tell me your sins. And she's like,

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oh my god, I'm being haunted. Yes, this exchange I

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had been warmer time where he was like, tell me

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your sins, and she was like, please, I need your help.

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I need you to come to my house and help

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us get rid of this, Like help us, please, I

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can't sleep, I can't eat, I can't do this anymore. Please,

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And the father was silent, and then my mom just

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watched us. He left the confessional. What kind of shit

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is that? It remind me of what is the other

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book by that we read? Oh my god, yes, Senda

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when she goes to the church for help because she's

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being haunted. And of course the old priest is like,

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if I hear you talk like that again, name bullshit.

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I thought of that too. Yeah, so we'll just do

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what that young said, We'll get rid of the board.

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Only he didn't do that exactly because again he was

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supposed to destroy it physically anyway that they could, and

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he just threw it away. So when he threw it away,

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it came back. It just appeared under our mom's bed.

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And by this point, the board was telling everyone that

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it was in love with Artha and it was also

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doing things to people. Yeah, the husband of our mom's

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aunt was over and again everyone at one point came

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over to look at the board and yeah, like we said,

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it was an extended family activity at this point, and he,

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you know, while they were all using it, he said

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to the Luigi board, you think I believe in you.

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You're just stupid, bored. You're not real. You're not real.

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And the board replied, wait until tonight. I'm gonna pull

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your legs. I would have shited my pants, I would

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have thrown up. Yeah. Yeah. So one week later, this

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uncle goes back to the house and tells him you

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need to get rid of that board because for the

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whole week he had not been able to sleep. Something

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was pulling his legs. Yep, and pulling his blanket off.

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So yeah, he wasn't the only one having experiences with

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the board either. Also didn't believe in the board back then,

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and the board would tell them like, I am showing

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you respect because you are Ludus' mom, and he the

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board was in love yeah, and told the board, okay,

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if you're real, do something to show we and the

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board spelled out like, look at Mono. And Mono is

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another nephew who was around three at the time and

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also happened to be the three year old son of

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that same uncle. Those legs were pulled. Yeah, so everyone,

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because again everyone came over to do this with the board.

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So everyone turned to look at poor Mono, and Mono

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was just standing there and suddenly he fell. But it

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wasn't a normal fall. He felt like he was flipped

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over like a cartoon yeap, like when the cartoons slip

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on a banana slip. That is how he fell, Yes,

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and he hit the floor and obviously started crying because yeah,

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he didn't deserve it, Oh my god, did no very somehow,

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our grandma still was like I don't know, I still

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don't believe. Then the board said look at the table,

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and so again. They all turned to look at the

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table and all the dishes were standing up on their own,

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but not because I mean some dishes do stand on

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their own like a bowl it can stand. No, they

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were like on their side stand. Yeah, so exactly like that.

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So finally thought was like, no, we need to get

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rid of this Ouiji board and oh no, this is

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I guess he didn't get rid of it right away. Yeah,

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this is when he tried to throw it away and

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it came back. Oh yeah, yeah, So Ablita decided to

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finally get rid of the board like he like he

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should have, but he didn't do it the way the

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priest said to do it, because the priest again said

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destroy the thing, do whatever you can to destroy it.

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And our Alito put it in a bag, took that

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bag out to the sidewalk to make sure that, you know,

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it was out there to hand to like the Tresh people.

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The next day and the next night the board was

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back under our mom's bed m hm. And then for

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some reason they decided to keep using it after they

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came back. I don't know why. This is the point

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in the movie where we started shouting at everybody. You're like,

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what the fuck are you doing yes, yes, And when

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they used it again, the board told them you dare

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throw me away again? And our grandpa told the board, like,

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you know, he was like, look, Danny, you're in love

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with someone you can't be in love with. You don't

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belong here. And Danny, the Wuiji board replied, then why

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did you bring me? And our Abito ended up burning

447
00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:06.039
the board and then burning it and burning it and

448
00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:09.000
burning it until like there was nothing there whatever it

449
00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:12.200
was left like he went to who knows how far

450
00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:16.359
to leave it somewhere, and it didn't return this time.

451
00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:19.200
So now the board was gone and had already told

452
00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:21.480
them what needed to be done, that our mom needed

453
00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:23.680
to go out during the night dig up the bones

454
00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:26.720
with the entity next to her, but nobody wanted to

455
00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:29.559
do that, like who would want to do that? So

456
00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:32.000
they were trying other things whatever they could at this point,

457
00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:35.160
and uncle gave our mom his rosary that he wore

458
00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:37.519
every day because he swore that it protected him from

459
00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:40.720
all evil, and so she, you know, would wear that

460
00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:44.079
other times. They tried to keep the Bible open during

461
00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:47.680
the night. They tried putting the open pairs and open

462
00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:50.519
pair of scissors under her bed, so they were trying

463
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:54.519
all these things, but nothing was working, and Miblla, our

464
00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:58.319
mom's grandma, told her that she needed to get angry

465
00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:01.359
and kick the entity out, otherwise it would never leave

466
00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:04.279
because it knew that our mom could hear it and

467
00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:06.960
knew that it was getting to her and that it

468
00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:09.279
kept doing If it kept doing this, it would get

469
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:13.319
what it wanted, which was probably for our mom to

470
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:17.079
die and for her to take its place, yeah, and

471
00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:21.000
save itself. So these just things were getting worse. Whenever

472
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:24.000
she managed to get any sleep at all, she had

473
00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:27.240
this dream, and this dream was always the same. She

474
00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:30.359
would get to this house and when she arrived, the

475
00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:34.279
house was always on fire, and then the door, the

476
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:36.359
front door would open and there would be this like

477
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:40.079
charred figure of a person standing in the doorway. And

478
00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:44.240
the first time she had this dream was also the

479
00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:49.599
first time that she saw the entity because she's walking

480
00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:53.440
toward the door and her dream the entity opened the door,

481
00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:56.440
and so they were face to face at this point,

482
00:26:57.000 --> 00:27:00.960
and she could see into its eyes, but everything else

483
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:03.559
it was too burned to make out any facial details

484
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:06.200
or anything. But she said that in its eyes she

485
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:10.440
could send this deep sadness and that it probably died

486
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:13.039
a horrible death. Who knows if there were others in

487
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:18.680
this house that was burning that also died with this entity.

488
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:23.400
And her mom just felt like this deep sadness for

489
00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:27.119
this thing that was haunting her. Yeah, she told it

490
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:29.039
in her dream that she couldn't help it, and she

491
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:31.559
was so sorry but she couldn't help. And she really

492
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:34.079
felt bad that she couldn't help. Yeah, because she's a

493
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:36.839
better person than I. I'd be like, buck, you, I

494
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:40.359
can't help you, bet, give right off, you get the

495
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:43.480
fuck out. But no, she felt so bad she couldn't help,

496
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:46.839
and she felt so bad that she felt mean, getting

497
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:50.039
angry at it and telling it to leave. Yeah, like

498
00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:53.119
Mabel I had told her to do so, and she

499
00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:56.920
couldn't do it. Alita would tell her, well, hey, why

500
00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:58.839
don't we just do what the board said and maybe

501
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.519
we'll find some gold. They had heard of a girl

502
00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:04.559
back in Rancho, where he's from, who found gold like that,

503
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:08.240
but she lost her mind and she was being kept

504
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:10.480
tied to a bed, so they didn't really want to

505
00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:16.920
do that. Was it really an option? Yeah? So yeah,

506
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:19.559
it's the girl's parents had the gold, but they lost

507
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:22.319
their daughter. So yeah, our mom didn't want to do that,

508
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.200
but something needed to be done because the situation was

509
00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:28.720
only getting worse. Maybe, I kept telling her, when you

510
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:30.759
hear the spirit next to you, set up and yell

511
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.480
at it, tell it to leave, and tell it this phrase,

512
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:40.319
which means leave because I'm busy with the people who

513
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:43.079
baptize my child. I had never heard this phrase before

514
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:46.400
me neither. I'm curious to know if other people have

515
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:48.880
heard it, Please let us know. Yeah, I had no

516
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:50.640
idea it was a thing until I'm like, is this

517
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:53.519
aial thing? Or is this like she said it was

518
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.319
a thing. That's true she did. Maybe that's why we

519
00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:02.160
don't know. But is it like just stretch shows? Yeah? Yeah.

520
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:04.640
Our mom was confused on how this would even work,

521
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:08.440
since she wasn't anyone's commande de pilla or had any kids,

522
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:10.839
but she was willing to do it because things were

523
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.079
even worse. There were several nights that a different sibling

524
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.200
would find her sleep walking toward the mango tree, and

525
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:20.519
at least two or three times she could see marks

526
00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:23.000
on her wrist as if someone had been grabbing her

527
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:26.559
very hard. And that's wild because things were like now,

528
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:31.200
like there was like physical evidence of the content like

529
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:34.119
it was escalating obviously, Yes, that's exactly what I was

530
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:37.079
gonna say. At every point it was escalating. Yeah, yeah

531
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:42.799
again worse yes, yeah. So the neighbor that the spiritual

532
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:45.319
neighbor that we mentioned earlier, told them that the spirit

533
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:47.839
was physically taking her to the place where it died

534
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:50.400
so she could stay there and it could leave. And

535
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:53.119
even her dreams were changing. Some nights, during the little

536
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:55.839
sleep that she got, she dreamt that she was walking

537
00:29:55.880 --> 00:30:00.319
toward mountains. Behind the mountains there were gray clouds, and

538
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.559
in her dream she knew she had to get past mountains,

539
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:06.119
and the voice kept telling her to keep going. When

540
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:09.079
she started having this dream, the entity started placing its

541
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:14.279
hand on her head. Nah, and she could feel it. Yeah.

542
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:17.160
When she felt the hand on her head, that's when

543
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:20.359
she started walking. She would feel herself getting tired, but

544
00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:23.599
the voice urged her on, you're almost there, keep going. Go.

545
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.720
While she walked in her dreams, she walked in real life,

546
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:28.920
so this was when she was sleepwalking. That's when her

547
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.240
siblings would have to bring her back to the room

548
00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:33.759
after finding her walking to the Maingu tree. There were

549
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:35.559
a couple of times she woke up on her own

550
00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:38.559
sitting by the table outside, but the last thing she

551
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:42.200
remembered was falling asleep in her bed. Another time, when

552
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:44.319
one of her brothers tried to wake her up to

553
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:46.359
get her back to bed, he felt like he was

554
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:49.480
being pushed away by an unseen force. So something was

555
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:52.200
really trying to take her yeah, yeah, and trying to

556
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:55.759
stop others trying to stop her from leaving. So things

557
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:59.119
like that continued to happen, and Alita finally said, let's

558
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:01.559
try something else. This time, she had her mom wear

559
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:04.279
the rosary from her uncle. They placed the open bible

560
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:07.200
next to her and the pair of open scissors under

561
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:09.559
her bed all the same time, because before this they

562
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:12.559
tried all these things separately. What what did we talk

563
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:15.759
about it? Before that there was about the open the

564
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:19.440
putting the scissors, do you remember. Yeah, so that's what

565
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:24.000
they say stops Brukas from getting because you know, like

566
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:27.799
the according to legend, like we know, yeah, not all

567
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:32.400
bluecas right like hashtag now all bluecass. Yeah, but the

568
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:36.680
legends say that they like to suck newborns run LIKECI

569
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:39.799
is an example. But it's like not just that, it's

570
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:43.680
all the Ruka legends really like to take newborns, so

571
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:48.680
people would place open scissors under the newborn's crib to

572
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.759
stop the bluecass and then, like according to legend, you

573
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:55.480
would find the cut tongue of brua who's trying to

574
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:57.759
suck the blood, because that's what the scissors do. They

575
00:31:57.799 --> 00:31:59.640
would find it the next day on the crib of

576
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:02.720
the baby. So they tried everything all the same time,

577
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:05.359
and that night she could hear it again, the footsteps,

578
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:09.599
the crying, the hallelujah helped me the chains, but it

579
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:12.119
didn't come in. It stopped at the door. She heard

580
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:14.400
as the entity turned around and whiled its way back

581
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:16.400
to the tree. But it was a cry worse than

582
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:19.240
she had ever heard before. It was horrible because it

583
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.599
was upset this time. Yeah, so that night it went

584
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:25.240
back to the tree and cried, and she felt terrible

585
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:27.359
the next day, like it was all her fault and

586
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.680
like she had caused this entity pain and that she

587
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:33.119
had made a cry. And at this point she didn't

588
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:36.039
realize it, but she was more gone than present, so

589
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:40.440
like she was more over there in that world than here,

590
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:44.160
more dead than alive. Yeah, she thought maybe the entity

591
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:47.000
really did want to be friends. So that night, without

592
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:50.039
telling anyone. She removed all of the prior protection, so

593
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.960
the rosary, the Bible, the scissors, and that night the

594
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:55.400
spirit was able to enter. That night, as she started

595
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.240
to get up and sleepwalk, a A. Wulito asked her

596
00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:01.160
where she was going. He always stayed awake as late

597
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:03.119
as he could to try and stop her from sleepwalking

598
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:06.880
half asleep. She replied, it's because it's here. It's already inside.

599
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.240
This happened just as he turned the light off. When

600
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:13.119
she said that, he said, where is he? Tell me

601
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:16.240
where the motherfucker is? Where is he? She told him

602
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:19.720
he's next to you. But as she said that, the

603
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:24.440
entity went behind within seconds. This was one of the

604
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:27.440
only times she saw the full shape or outline of it.

605
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.000
And she said, it's next to you. No, it's behind you.

606
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:34.279
And he said, can you just picture that? Oh my god,

607
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.440
that's terrible. So you know, behind you? Oh my god.

608
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:41.759
So he was scared. Yeah, and he sat on the

609
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:44.880
bed holding his chats and he's like, oh fuck, oh fuck,

610
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:52.160
don't leave to please. Oh my god. I would be too.

611
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:54.880
I would be too. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'll be crying.

612
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.599
I'm scared right now. And I already heard this after

613
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:02.480
it more than yeah, after this happened, she finally said, no,

614
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:05.440
this is too much, and she decided to do all

615
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:07.079
the things they had done on the night you couldn't

616
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:10.119
come inside, the rosary, the scissors, and the open Bible.

617
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:13.760
And the next morning our ablitos were talking to each

618
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.559
other wondering why it was able to come inside, and

619
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:18.719
that's when our mom came clean and said that she

620
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:22.280
removed all the things because she felt bad, and our

621
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:25.679
alito was like, you can't feel like that with the dead.

622
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:28.679
You can't feel bad for them. With these kind of spirits,

623
00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:31.320
there's no way of knowing if they're good or bad.

624
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:33.840
So you had to stay far away. And that makes

625
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:36.800
sense because like maybe this thing was putting on this

626
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:39.880
show and wield all its way back because it wasn't

627
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:43.159
getting its way, you know, well probably that's why. Yeah, yeah,

628
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:45.320
So once they put all those things back, the entity

629
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:47.760
was not able to enter the room. But now it

630
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:52.000
stood outside at the wall where arm that's terrifying, well,

631
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:54.840
where our mom's yeah, bed was, and it would call

632
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:58.199
her by her name, so now it could say more things, Yeah,

633
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:02.039
you do ned her name, yeah, And she could hear

634
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:04.639
it all the way from the tree to the wall,

635
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:10.159
crying out, Acelli, clemency, help do just that? Get it again?

636
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:14.639
And it's I don't know, it's scarier in Spanish, Clementia,

637
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:18.480
are you that it really is? It really is scarier

638
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:22.880
in Spanish, like even when she first told us, like, adelujah,

639
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:28.440
are you? I think it's the alliteration. I think so alujah.

640
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:33.800
It's so oh my god, can you imagine fucking hearing that?

641
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:38.599
I would have killed myself? Yeah, I'm going to survive

642
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:52.280
this long. Yeah. So her parents are grandparents, decided to

643
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.880
send her mom to Mama Juanita, her paternal grandmother, for

644
00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:58.000
a week or two, all of a sudden, thinking that

645
00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:00.840
maybe this is in her head sudden even though there

646
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:05.199
was as yeah, no, of course, everyone was desperate. Yeah,

647
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:07.320
And once she was there, she was able to get

648
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:10.159
the best sleep of her life, well since the last

649
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:13.360
past nine months, however long this thing had been going

650
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:15.559
on for and nothing happened to her while she was

651
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:18.960
at Mama Juanita's. While she was gone, her oldest brother

652
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:21.719
Artio said, Heio came back home super late, you know,

653
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:26.719
and them a na pista as he did. This was normal, typical, yes,

654
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:28.960
and he usually slept outside with the blanket in the

655
00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:31.039
kitchen when it was really late, like he woudn't even

656
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:33.039
come inside, and that night he thought it would be

657
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:35.119
oh my god, I can't so he thought it would

658
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:37.280
be funny to use our mom's blanket to try and

659
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:40.239
trick the entity, and he heard the same sounds that

660
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:42.679
she heard every night, but he didn't stick around to

661
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:45.119
see what would happen. He left to sleep at a

662
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:47.880
friend's house. He said fuck this, and as he was

663
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:50.880
running out of the house, the dishes the chairs at

664
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:53.599
the table were all moved around. For a while, the

665
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:57.280
entity was pissed when she finally went back home after

666
00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:59.960
that week a week and a half, the entity came

667
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:02.360
coming to her during the night, but it never went

668
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:05.400
back inside. Then it must have realized he wasn't gonna

669
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:08.039
be able to haunt her anymore, because slowly, over time

670
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:10.239
he stopped coming. But because she was so used to

671
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:13.159
living like this, she wasn't fully happy it was over.

672
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:16.000
She was sad, and she felt terrible about forcing the

673
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:18.960
entity away. Even though the haunting seemed over, her sleep

674
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:21.639
and health didn't recover. Now. She laid awake at night

675
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:25.880
feeling lonely because as terrifying as it was the entity

676
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:30.280
had been her company during those sleepless nights. At this point,

677
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:33.800
she was feeling suicidal, like she didn't want to live anymore,

678
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:37.079
and she even tried to die by suicide twice, but

679
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:41.760
both attempts failed. Man Finally, after some time, she reacted

680
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:44.360
and realized this had to stop, and she said aloud,

681
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:47.079
I don't know where you are anymore, but I can't

682
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:49.599
help you. I'm sorry. I can't be the one to

683
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:52.280
help you move on. Maybe somedays someone else will be

684
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:54.679
able to do that, to do what I couldn't, but

685
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:57.320
it isn't me. I hope you find peace. And with

686
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:00.920
that she was able to start living again. More time passed,

687
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:03.719
things were almost normal again. Our mom didn't sleep in

688
00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:06.280
that bottom bunk anymore. She was in the top bunk

689
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:09.719
with another sister, Artiana Ben, who for some strange reason,

690
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:11.679
really wanted to go out and see the morning star,

691
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:15.760
which is planet Venus, and you can see it just

692
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:19.320
before dawn. Best one night's leaving, but it's not quite

693
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.360
dawn like dusk, and our mom told her don't go

694
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:24.800
out there, it's still dark. It's still out there. It

695
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:26.719
finally left me alone, but if you go out there

696
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:29.079
where it lives in the tree, it might latch onto

697
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:31.880
you next It's still there. And she knew this because

698
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.159
once in a while she still had dreams about the tree.

699
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:36.800
She was no longer walking toward it or toward mountains,

700
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.320
and the entity wasn't visibly there. It was just a tree.

701
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:42.440
But she took that as a sign that was still there.

702
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.480
But Urthiana Ben didn't listen. And as soon as she

703
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:47.599
went out out there to look at the morning Star,

704
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:52.480
she came back inside screaming, screaming, crying, throwing it up,

705
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:57.760
fell to her knees in lapentune truly because she was

706
00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:00.400
passing out, just on a breadge of passing out. Yeah,

707
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.880
she did actually fall to her knees. We meant that

708
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:06.920
quite literally. And so everyone woke up when our came

709
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:09.320
back and throwing up, screaming, crying, and our abaity to

710
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:12.639
turn the light on. And when our Da finally calmed down,

711
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:14.800
she told them that while she was out there trying

712
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:18.679
to find the morning Star, the shadow of the entity

713
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:21.440
was standing by the mango tree and it might have

714
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:25.320
said something to her in this, you know instance, And

715
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:28.880
so she ran back inside screaming and our wady to

716
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:30.639
told her, like, don't go back out there again, not

717
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:32.519
during the night, unless you have to go to the bathroom,

718
00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:36.280
like nobody go out there. Yeah, and even if you

719
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:38.159
go to the bathroom, it needs to be quick as

720
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:40.960
quickly as possible, like they had finally gotten rid of

721
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:44.199
this entity, and I were going back out there, like

722
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:48.239
no one wants it back. Yeah. And even though our

723
00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:50.800
Tiana didn't see it again, she was traumatized. She would

724
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:54.360
wake up screaming, or she would she would try to

725
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:56.880
literally sleep on top of her mom, like using her

726
00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:59.480
as a pillow. Yeah, Or she would run to our

727
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:04.079
grandparents bed, and then from there she would yellow Araceli,

728
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:08.400
which terrified her mom because it reminded her of when

729
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:12.840
the entity would say her name. Yeah, yeah, yes, So

730
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.559
she was just out here making everything worse. And then

731
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:19.599
like our mom couldn't sleep because of how Artia was

732
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:24.039
like sleeping on her or calling to her, and our

733
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:27.280
mom needed her sleep, like after so much time of

734
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:31.039
not sleeping. She would tell Aralitos her parents, like, please

735
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:34.000
make her stop. It's reminded me too much of the

736
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:37.239
entity when she's calling out for me at night, And yeah, understandably,

737
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.519
so Luckily for Artiana Belle, she didn't seem to have

738
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:42.360
seen it again. It was just a one time thing,

739
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:46.679
and really no one saw it again, not that much

740
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:53.000
years past. They all left this nightmare behind. At this point,

741
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:57.440
our mom left Mexico for the US. Well, was she

742
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:01.079
twenty one, twenty two something like that, something like that,

743
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:05.000
and you know that's where we were born, like a

744
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:07.719
year after or something like that. I Will eat That

745
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:10.400
came to visit when we were four years old, so

746
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:14.480
like late nineteen nineties at this point. Yeah, and this

747
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:17.519
is like years years, years after this whole or deal

748
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:20.360
that or Mom went through when she was visiting. Or

749
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:23.639
I Will Eat That told her mom that they heard

750
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:27.719
the entity. Her and A Willita heard it at night.

751
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:32.679
They were asleep when they just heard. So, Yo, why

752
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:36.480
do you like that to scare you? You scare me?

753
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.000
I know that was my goal? Damn wow, got me?

754
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:46.079
Got me there, You got me. And neither one of

755
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:49.880
them could move when this was happening, and in her dreams,

756
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.159
or I Will eat That could finally see what our

757
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.760
mom was talking about all those years ago, the charred

758
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:57.679
figure of what was once a person. It also told

759
00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:00.480
them in that same dream that they were both having

760
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:03.920
it at the same time that it had been burned. Yeah, insane.

761
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:06.639
That's how you know, like it's real and it's not

762
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:09.239
just you when someone else is experiencing the same thing.

763
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:11.519
And it said to them that it had been burned.

764
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:15.320
But then it just left and that was that. It's

765
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.239
like it just wanted to say, hey, I'm still here.

766
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:21.639
I did. I guess that's literally almost word for word. Yeah.

767
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:25.199
Time passed. With money pulled together from siblings. Now in

768
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:27.360
the US, they were able to get a house built

769
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:31.840
for Lios and so finally they left what we called Lapenzion,

770
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:35.239
that little room in a parking lot, but they lived

771
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:38.840
there for years, literal years into a very I mean,

772
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:41.159
like I think it's a very nice house. Yeah, I

773
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:46.280
think so too. Yeah, and yeah, everyone left Lapentzion ten

774
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:49.760
to fifteen years after all this. Now we're around two

775
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.920
thousand and seven. In between two thousand and seven and

776
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:57.079
twenty eleven, our Abulo ran into the brother of one

777
00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:00.599
of the owners of Lapenzion, that little room, and the

778
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:04.679
brother had just moved in there momentarily and he had

779
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:08.760
been hearing the entity, so it was still there. Yeah,

780
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:12.000
But then he left the building is. I want to say,

781
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:15.199
it's probably still there. We saw it in the mid

782
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:19.000
two thousands. Probably our mom saw it again around two

783
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:23.679
thousand and sixteen fifteen around there, yeah, one of those

784
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:26.519
two years, because when she went back to Mexico for

785
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:29.159
the first time, she went to go see this little

786
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:31.480
room for the first time where you know, she grew up,

787
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:34.280
and she didn't see or hear the entity, but she

788
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:36.880
could sense that it was still there, like she had

789
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:40.280
this feeling that it had not gone. But again they

790
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:43.320
didn't see it again. So honestly, it probably is still there,

791
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:46.360
and who knows how long it has been there, because

792
00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:48.880
then our mom also told us that this part of

793
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:54.079
Guadalajara way back when used to be this sassienda owned

794
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:57.280
by some person named El Major that's what they called him.

795
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:01.119
And this is all like a past orally. I don't

796
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:04.119
think there's any documentation of this, but this is just

797
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:07.559
what they had all been told that El Mayord owned

798
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:12.679
this huge scienda that covered where they lived in a

799
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:16.159
pension all the way to this other neighborhood. What's it called.

800
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:18.519
Do you remember? I don't remember all the top of

801
00:44:18.519 --> 00:44:21.920
my head in front of maybe I don't remember the neighborhood.

802
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.639
But this huge part of this around there, it's around

803
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:28.719
the stadium, right, yes, because that's what they call it.

804
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:33.760
I can't even say that infna inferna be yeah. Yeah,

805
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:37.000
And so el Mayor used to, you know, as most

806
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:42.360
owners did, mistreat you know, the workers and you know,

807
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:44.639
kill them and then bury them in that same land.

808
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:48.480
And like nobody knows how many people were killed during

809
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:51.159
this time and then just buried there. And everyone that

810
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:54.119
lives in this neighborhood has you know, weird paranormal experiences

811
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:58.239
like things turning off on and off on their own footsteps, sounds,

812
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:00.760
and at some point there was a fire in this

813
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:04.280
ascienda and so she thinks it could all be related

814
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:07.239
to this. And if that is the case, this thing

815
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:11.440
has been there for a long long time. Yes. The

816
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:15.039
wild thing is that her mom still feels sad about

817
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:18.079
how long the entity has been there and that she

818
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:21.519
couldn't help it. Yeah, but yeah, that is the hunting

819
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:27.159
of Maria. What a ride that was, right, What a journey.

820
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:30.800
I I was very glad to hear the whole full

821
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:33.400
story because there was so many parts to it that

822
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:38.519
we hadn't heard. But also like just hearing it. It's

823
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:40.800
I get scared. It's like this should be a movie,

824
00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:43.559
and knowing I have copywriter The Hunting of Maria and

825
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:47.880
I'm just kidding, no, but it really is such an impactful,

826
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:55.079
scary story, like I ImpACTA I have has affected me emotionally,

827
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:57.599
and we've heard like bits and pieces all of our

828
00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:01.719
lives of this. And yeah, you know, our mom is

829
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:05.440
a spooky lady and our dad is a spooky spooky guy.

830
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.599
That's where we got our spookiness from. So that, yeah,

831
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:11.400
that is why we need to leave. He's actually all

832
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:14.480
three of them will actually they see things, and thankfully

833
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:19.440
we don't. Don't skip us. I'm grateful, grateful for that. Yeah,

834
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:23.199
and was it? I think it was Stephanie. When we're

835
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:25.880
chatting with her, she was like, it might just be blogged,

836
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:28.679
and I don't want to keep it blocked, keep it blocked.

837
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:33.519
I'm not trying to more that chakra. No, thank you, no,

838
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:36.599
thank you. But yeah, that brings us to the end

839
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:41.079
of this episode. And before we go, we're just gonna

840
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:42.480
take a little out of break and then come back

841
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:51.199
with spooky recommendations. And we're back. Carmen, do you have

842
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:55.079
spooky recommendations? I don't think so. I think since the

843
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:57.519
last time we recorded, I mentioned that I started listening

844
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:03.239
to The Reformatory by Nana Reeve Do Yes, But I

845
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:04.920
feel like we talked about it because I was your

846
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:07.880
speaker re comminiation last time, because you had finished it. Anyway,

847
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:11.400
I now finished it, and I also loved it five

848
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:15.400
out of five truly amazing, so good. And I think

849
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:19.519
we both listened to the audiobook and the another narrator

850
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:22.920
was so good at all the different accents. I'm like,

851
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:26.760
how is she doing this right? So good? And you know,

852
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:29.880
I feel like our mom reminds us, reminds me a

853
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:32.480
lot about Robert, the main character, because he feels also

854
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:38.480
bad for the Haints or the spirits at one point,

855
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.519
like there was one reason I don't like listening to audio,

856
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:43.639
or one thing I don't like about audiobooks is that

857
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:48.800
I can like highlight a quote, you know, and so true. Yeah,

858
00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:51.039
And I kind of remember, just at the top of

859
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:52.639
my head, like there was like something in the book

860
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:55.920
that he's like thinking. He's like, maybe maybe they just

861
00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:59.280
wanted someone to witness them or witness their death or

862
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:01.400
acknowledge their death something like that. And I feel like

863
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:04.760
as our mom was telling us, like the full story

864
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:09.119
of her haunting, that was like one thing that I

865
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:11.760
kind of like stood out, Like I feel like because

866
00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:13.280
of her deep and it's the thing I feel like,

867
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:15.760
I've heard a lot of people that are very in

868
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:19.199
tune to the spiritual side that they have. Like not

869
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:21.280
to say we're not empathetic people, because I do feel

870
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:22.960
like I am, but anyway, that's what they're like on

871
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:30.599
another level. Yeah, like people with this ability are deeply empathetic.

872
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:33.639
And as our mom was telling us this story, like

873
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:37.239
even now to this day, like you can feel the

874
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:42.159
empathy she has still has for that spirit because they're stuck.

875
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:45.760
If you know Spanish, please that is the way to

876
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:49.119
hear this story, because yeah, you can hear her always

877
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:52.400
crying in some parts. Yeah, just how bad you about it?

878
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:57.639
I'm like, man, this is crazy. This thing is terrorizing you. Yeah,

879
00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:00.599
but yeah, it reminded me of the main character. I

880
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:02.679
can't believe I don't even make that connection because you

881
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:05.000
were so you were so right for making that kind

882
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:07.079
of so spot on. And yeah, it was like a

883
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:08.960
thing that stood out for me stood out to me

884
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:11.760
from the book too, like the way that the ghosts

885
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:14.920
are represented and things like that. Yeah, yeah, it really

886
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:20.079
was such a good book. Yeah for my spooky recommendation,

887
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:23.480
it's not spooky. It's more true crime, but like fictional

888
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.880
true crime. It's a show. It's called The Killing. I

889
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:29.119
talked a little bit about it, but I finally finished

890
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:31.840
all four seasons. I don't know if you remember me

891
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:36.159
saying this show depicted Seattle is sat in Seattle, and

892
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:38.400
I'm like, man, Seattle looks so depressing. And then I'm

893
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:40.000
like I looked out the window. I'm like, oh wait,

894
00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:44.119
it is. It's like that, this is what this guy looks. Like,

895
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:48.639
what are we talking about? Literally, but the first two

896
00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:53.760
seasons follows the murder of a teenage girl and it's

897
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:56.360
just them unraveling twist because let me tell you, the

898
00:49:56.400 --> 00:50:00.719
twists are twisting. There's just twists. I love a like

899
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:04.559
Red Harrying and like they're following this case and just

900
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:07.880
you could see how badly their fuck ups fuck everyone up,

901
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:12.320
Like what is it? Some lives up? Hulu? Hulu, Okay,

902
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:13.800
and you don't want it. It's on Hulu. It's an

903
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:17.440
AMC show. It was on AMC first and then it

904
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:19.760
was cut and then Netflix. Boughty and finished out the

905
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:23.079
last two seasons. I know, and it actually has a conclusion.

906
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:26.960
It concludes it wasn't like canceled without a final, like

907
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.119
actual end to the story. So that's always nice when

908
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:32.679
there's an actual end to a story to me, because

909
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:34.639
so many shows just get cut and you never get

910
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:39.559
to see an ending. Hate Clarita Diet. So yeah, the

911
00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:42.760
first two seasons follow that story. Some people feel that,

912
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:45.840
like I've seen mixed reviews where the two seasons drag.

913
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:48.599
They feel like it dragged out for too long for

914
00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:51.000
the same crime to be the span of those two seasons.

915
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:54.280
I love a slow burn, you need too, and I

916
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:58.559
also the relationship between the two detectives is just so funny.

917
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:02.440
To me, I don't mind it, so I don't. I

918
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:04.639
love a slow burn, so it didn't bother me, But

919
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.800
that bothers some people. Season three is a completely different

920
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:11.719
case that's just wild. And then season four is a

921
00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:14.239
completely different case that I just wasn't expecting. But it

922
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:16.559
was also not bad, although I would say out of

923
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:19.719
the four seasons, that's probably the weakest season. The one

924
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:23.480
as tends to happen. Yeah, but no, it was like,

925
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:27.719
if you like a detective drama. It's honestly enjoyable. It

926
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:31.480
wasn't Je love drama me too. I've been wanting to

927
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:35.519
watch true know what's it called True Detective, but one

928
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:38.119
that has it seems like it's set somewhere else that's

929
00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:41.159
like snowing. I don't know at night night. I don't

930
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:43.199
remember the name of the show, so scratch all that.

931
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:50.760
So yeah, anything else? No, okay, okay, oh wait, wait,

932
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:54.199
we finished, which is of lass. That's what I was

933
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:59.519
about to say. Oh yeah, yes, we did finish, which

934
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:04.039
is doing the ash Travino hands when you see videos

935
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:12.480
of someone doing that. The search part is Ashtravino hands. Anyway, Yes,

936
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:14.239
we finished, which is a bit best. So by the

937
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:17.079
time you're hearing this, I will have sent out discussion

938
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:19.320
questions to give every one time to answer them if

939
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:21.480
you want to answer them, and we will read the

940
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:26.239
results and maybe we'll live stream the book discussion on

941
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:29.679
I don't know how to set it up. Still, okay,

942
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.719
well maybe not. Then. I'm also excited to talk about

943
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:35.440
the book because I feel like most of the time

944
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:39.000
we have absolutely loved the book, and I liked it.

945
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:40.440
I don't want to make it seem like I didn't

946
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:41.880
like it. I liked it. I had a good time

947
00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:45.760
reading it. Yeah, but I feel like with other books,

948
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:47.559
I haven't had a thing like where there's things I

949
00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:51.440
didn't really like or like. No I ha critiques. I

950
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:54.440
guess this time I do. So I'm with you on that,

951
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:56.760
different with you on that. Yeah, it'll be a little different.

952
00:52:57.199 --> 00:52:59.719
So yeah, I will be sending that out. We'll set

953
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:03.280
up a day to record, hopefully live stream it, maybe

954
00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:05.360
with just the patron members because I have to figure

955
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:08.639
out how to do it. I think though with Riverside

956
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:13.000
you can live stream to YouTube. So yeah, we'll do that.

957
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:15.480
We'll figure out. We'll figure Oh my god, we will

958
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:17.320
figure it out, is what I was trying to say.

959
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:21.480
Also in the description, I will put mutual aid funds

960
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:26.239
for LA for the fires. I mean I've, as we've

961
00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:29.079
said many times, we grew up going not to La La,

962
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:31.719
but like San Pedro Long Beach area because that's where

963
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:36.159
we have family, but like we have love for LA honestly,

964
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:38.679
so you know we're gonna do what we can. So

965
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:41.880
I mean, I'll be using probably some Petroon funds instead

966
00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:45.039
of to help with the podcast to help with the fires.

967
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:48.559
So if you're interested in donating, I will put some

968
00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:53.000
mutual aid organizations to donate directly too. There's also I've

969
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:55.480
been showing it on our stories, but there's places that

970
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:58.559
you can drop off of physical like items that they're

971
00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:02.599
needing like and then if I masks for people cleaning

972
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:07.079
up the streets right now and then like items. So

973
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:10.760
I'll be sharing all that in our social media, but

974
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:13.559
in our show notes I will add some places to

975
00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:16.079
donate as well that we will also be donating to.

976
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:20.159
And for everyone that has been affected, I hope everyone

977
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:24.400
is okay. And I mean losing a home and having

978
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:27.440
to rebuild and not even the home but everything that

979
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:31.320
was inside. What a difficult, difficult situation to be to

980
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:35.719
be in, yeh. And so our thoughts and hearts are

981
00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:38.039
with you and that doesn't do much, but we will

982
00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:41.840
be trying to help where we can financially too. So yeah,

983
00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:44.079
other than that, stay a spooky We'll catch arow and

984
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:47.840
next time, Bye bye. S book Tails is hosted by

985
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:51.400
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986
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