May 16, 2025

the Haunted Painting in Hotel Galvez & The Case of Juan Delgado

the Haunted Painting in Hotel Galvez & The Case of Juan Delgado
Apple Podcasts podcast player badge
Spotify podcast player badge
PocketCasts podcast player badge
Overcast podcast player badge
Castro podcast player badge
iHeartRadio podcast player badge
Castbox podcast player badge
Podchaser podcast player badge
Deezer podcast player badge
Pandora podcast player badge
Podcast Addict podcast player badge
RSS Feed podcast player badge
Amazon Music podcast player badge
TuneIn podcast player badge
Apple Podcasts podcast player iconSpotify podcast player iconPocketCasts podcast player iconOvercast podcast player iconCastro podcast player iconiHeartRadio podcast player iconCastbox podcast player iconPodchaser podcast player iconDeezer podcast player iconPandora podcast player iconPodcast Addict podcast player iconRSS Feed podcast player iconAmazon Music podcast player iconTuneIn podcast player icon

(00:00:00) Intro
(00:02:02) Listener Story
(00:13:56) Hotel Galvez
(00:27:56) The Case of Juan Delgado
(00:45:24) Spooky Recs

Hotel Galvez is located in Galveston, TX and is home to a bunch of ghosts, but also aa haunted painting. Carmen shares the ghost stories in the hotel, as well as the portrait of Bernardo de Galvez, which is also haunted.

Cristina shares the case of Juan Delgado, from La Habra, CA. In part one, she shares Juan's life, the days he was lasat seen and then the discovery of his remains. Part two will continue with the trial. Check out @YessCess on TIktok, the creator who shared the case on TikTok.

If you have a spooky story to share, email Espookytales@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at the Espooky Hot Line (360)836-4486. You can also submit it on Discord!

Join the Espooky Tales Book Club for Busy People:https://substack.com/@espooky?utm_source=profile-page

Listen to Carmen and Cristina's other podcastHistorias Unknown

The next book club read is the Unworhty by Agustina Bazterrica, if you want to purchase the book, check out our bookshop linkhttps://bookshop.org/lists/espooky-book-club-list

For more spooky stories, check out the Tiktok!https://www.tiktok.com/@espookytales

Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/espookytales/

Chat with us on Discord!https://discord.gg/cWk7CvVgaR

Want to be a Patron? Get episodes AD-FREE, listen before they are released to anyone else, get bonus episodes, exclusive stickers, virtual hangouts, and more! Support Espooky Tales. Learn more by visitinghttps://www.patreon.com/Espookytales

By joining, you can help Espooky Tales donate 20% funds to charity. Last month's donation went to Al Otro Lado's Water Drop program, The program is aimed at saving lives by proving water, clothing, food and First aid kits deep in the desert, where they are at most risk of death while seeking asylum.

Find more information here:https://alotrolado.org/

Get Espooky Merch:https://www.bonfire.com/store/espooky-tales/

Find us on YouTube:https://youtube.com/@espookytales

Thank you for listening! (timestamps may be a little off due to dynamic ad instertion)

Mailing Address
Espooky Tales
PO BOX 3234
Vancouver, WA 98668

WEBVTT

1
00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:07.240
Hi, This is Christina and a Carmen and this is

2
00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:10.960
another episode of Spooky Tells, the podcast for all things

3
00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:15.720
as spooky, true crime, haunted places, things like that. Today

4
00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:22.440
we have a haunted painting within other stories, and then

5
00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:27.039
I have a very depressing true crime story. Of course.

6
00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:29.800
So we're back, you know, we're back to normal, to

7
00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:33.320
our normal episodes where you back. Baby, We're back to

8
00:00:33.320 --> 00:00:36.439
our roots where you have a paranormal story and I

9
00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:39.399
have a depressing true crime story. Actually your roots were

10
00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:46.200
just paranormal efforts. Oh sorry, we're back to our second roots. Yes, yes,

11
00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:49.719
before that though, we do have a listening story. And

12
00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:52.560
if you want to send a story for us to read,

13
00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:54.759
you can email a Spooky tot at gmail dot com.

14
00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:58.640
You can send it on Discord, you can call the

15
00:00:58.759 --> 00:01:00.759
a Spooky hotline. There's a lot of ways to get

16
00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:04.560
it to us. And this was anonymous. They didn't say

17
00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:06.359
you can say who I am, so we're just gonna

18
00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:09.680
leave them anonymous. Oh okay, well yeah, err on the

19
00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:14.920
side of caution exactly. So this is from someone I

20
00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:17.120
went to prefos this by saying I lived in this

21
00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:19.719
particular house for a couple of years and it was

22
00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:24.040
definitely Embrukada. Several of my friends who visited had very

23
00:01:24.079 --> 00:01:27.680
similar experiences or encounters, and it did eventually meet people

24
00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:30.680
who lived in that home decades before I did and

25
00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:34.799
also share that they had strange experiences there. I personally

26
00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:38.159
have had paranormal things happened since I was little. My

27
00:01:38.359 --> 00:01:42.680
mommy's side of the family is definitely gifted with prophetic dreams,

28
00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:45.760
as am I, but we were raised Catholic, so a

29
00:01:45.799 --> 00:01:48.040
lot of it wasn't really talked about unless it was

30
00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:51.599
something fatal. Anyways, as an adult that have grown away

31
00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:54.319
from religion and more into spiritualism, and that sort of

32
00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:57.680
plays into my story, which I have here because it's

33
00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:00.680
a voice memo on Instagram. I was want to say,

34
00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:01.439
where is it?

35
00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:08.039
I keep trying to record this message and for some

36
00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:10.840
reason something happens that you.

37
00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:14.560
Either can't hear it or it cuts out. I don't know. Anyways,

38
00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:15.159
I'm going to.

39
00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:18.759
Try to case this short and sweet, but just so

40
00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:21.080
you have like a general idea of how like the

41
00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:24.879
layout of where this takes place kind of works. I

42
00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:28.439
was living at the time in a really small kind

43
00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:32.439
of cottage mother in law suitet situation, surrounded by plans.

44
00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:35.240
It was super cute. The house in front of me.

45
00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:38.319
Three of my best friends at the time we're living

46
00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:41.919
in and the way that the houses were set up

47
00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:43.360
was if we were.

48
00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:45.800
To open the little like wooding gate.

49
00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:48.919
Between our two houses, both of our yards would be

50
00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:51.680
connected and I could just walk straight into my friend's

51
00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:58.479
house and vice versa. So this particular experience took place

52
00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:00.400
about like five years ago.

53
00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:02.400
So this is like right at the beginning of COVID.

54
00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:06.759
At the time, I had personally really started getting more

55
00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:13.560
into my spiritualism and building a relationship with ancestors and

56
00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:18.680
creating my own altar and things of that sort. So

57
00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:23.520
this particular experience took place on Halloween night, which happened

58
00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:26.719
to be almost exactly a month after I had moved

59
00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:27.520
into this house.

60
00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:29.960
And so at.

61
00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:34.199
The time, my friend was dating the sky very casually,

62
00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:38.560
and she wanted myself and the rest of our friends

63
00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:40.759
I had lived on the property. She had pulled me

64
00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:45.719
aside in particular and was like, listen, I know you

65
00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:51.639
get these really vivid dreams. I want you to get

66
00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:54.080
a feel for him and tell me what do you think.

67
00:03:54.840 --> 00:04:00.080
And I said, okay, that's how you use your gifts. Yes, Oh,

68
00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:01.960
I love this living arrangement. I want to live there

69
00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:05.319
with my friends, right, but not yet, so I guess

70
00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:06.039
we'll see.

71
00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:08.919
Sure, I can definitely do that for you.

72
00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:14.039
So this particular night, we had a little bonfire going,

73
00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:17.800
we made dinner, we were doing art, we were just

74
00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:22.439
having like a casual, cute little night. Her little situationship

75
00:04:22.519 --> 00:04:24.680
whatever you want to call him, hadn't shown up yet,

76
00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:26.560
and so they're kind of having good time whatever.

77
00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:33.000
So this guy shows up and he was like.

78
00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:36.560
Walking kind of along the fence. We couldn't see him yet,

79
00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:40.319
and he was like screaming from my friend. Already red

80
00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:43.360
flags all over the place. This guy is over here

81
00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:46.720
being like, yo, I've been calling you the fucking.

82
00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:51.600
Door, like I've been waiting for a while. So offer,

83
00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:52.040
but I'm.

84
00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:53.920
Already like I don't really like this guy. I don't

85
00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:55.439
know what his deal was, But what is he doing

86
00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:57.720
talking to my friend like that? She goes, she lets

87
00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:01.759
him in. He comes through the backyard with us. He's

88
00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:05.519
acting mad, weird. He like tried flirting with one of

89
00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:09.600
my friends in front of her. He was like just

90
00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:12.160
being really disrespectful and the way that he was.

91
00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:15.800
Talking to her. Already, I didn't like him anyways.

92
00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:20.319
So at some point while we're all outside around like

93
00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:26.600
this bonfire, he is acting mad weird, talking to her

94
00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:29.920
real disrespectfully. She had told him something along the lines

95
00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:31.480
of like, I don't like the way that you're talking

96
00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:35.079
to my friends right now. While this is happening, I

97
00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:39.959
look over and I'm like watching them interact, and my

98
00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:42.240
friend walks away from him, and he looks at me

99
00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:46.879
and it's like he's not there, you know, like his

100
00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:50.040
eyes are kind of like blazed over, like he just.

101
00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:51.439
Doesn't look like he's all the way there.

102
00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:54.240
I should also mention when he showed up, he was

103
00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:57.040
off with Molly and he had been drinking already, so

104
00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:01.000
he was like with cluss fanils don't even So I'm

105
00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:03.759
looking over at him and I'm like, this guy's not there.

106
00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:06.279
Maybe it's the drugs. It's not the drugs.

107
00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:09.680
I start to notice like a figure kind of forming

108
00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:16.920
around him. It's like a dark, sharp black figure. And

109
00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:21.399
then I watched this figure climb onto his back and

110
00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:24.759
it's kind of like the best way that I could

111
00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:27.639
explain it is like it had it's like I guess

112
00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:32.920
what would be its feet, like on his shoulders and

113
00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:35.639
it was like crouched over him, and.

114
00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:41.439
I had bright red eyes, and it looked like.

115
00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:47.560
He was like sucking something out of the sky, which

116
00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:50.839
at that time my best guess was like it was

117
00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:52.959
his soul or something. I don't know, like it was

118
00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:59.800
sucking something out of him. And immediately I was like, oh, help,

119
00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:02.920
I need to go talk to my friend and tell

120
00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:05.800
her that she needs to say the fuck away from him.

121
00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:09.040
So I pull her aside. We go inside together for

122
00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:12.759
a little bit. We like go into the kitchen. She

123
00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:16.639
picks up a glass, doesn't hit anything, she doesn't drop

124
00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:18.879
the glass. It just as soon as she picks it up,

125
00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:22.480
it literally just like shatters in her hand. And I

126
00:07:22.519 --> 00:07:25.439
look at her and I was like, girl, first of all,

127
00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:28.279
that's a bad woman. Second of all, let me tell

128
00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:32.160
you what I just saw. And I described it to

129
00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:34.560
her and I didn't really know how to make it

130
00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:37.079
sound without sounding like I'm fucking.

131
00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:41.120
Crazy, but she believed me.

132
00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:47.399
And she's asking me like, well, can you do some

133
00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:50.040
kind of like protection spell on me, because like I

134
00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:51.639
still want to be with him, but.

135
00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:53.639
Like what, he's a demon.

136
00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:56.040
I don't want that thing to get attached to me.

137
00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:57.800
And I look at her and I was a girl.

138
00:07:58.639 --> 00:07:58.959
Thank you.

139
00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:00.439
First of all, I'm not b ha.

140
00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:05.040
I practice spiritualism, you know, I do things that a

141
00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:08.000
lot of people look at me and they're like, why

142
00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:08.959
do you say you're not a witch?

143
00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:10.600
You're a witch. I am not a witch.

144
00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:13.600
And I say that I'm not a witch because I

145
00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:17.240
believe that these are my ancestral practices, and I believe

146
00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:23.480
that the people who came and colonized my island used

147
00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:28.160
terms like bruh to demonize the practices that my ancestors had,

148
00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:30.399
and this is me reclaiming it.

149
00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:31.639
I then identify as.

150
00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:35.840
A brueh, but I respect everyone else within our community

151
00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:36.399
who does.

152
00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:39.039
That's just not the word that I use for myself.

153
00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:44.679
And so I'm telling her I don't do spells.

154
00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:51.240
That's not the kind of person that I am. I've

155
00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:55.519
done cleansings, but like that is some shit you do

156
00:08:55.559 --> 00:08:58.080
not want attached to you. You don't want that attached

157
00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:06.240
to you. She didn't listen to me, so they needless

158
00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:10.279
to say. This whole night had gone on kind of

159
00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:15.480
being a little bit of a shit show. She ended

160
00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:19.879
up dating this guy for I think like a year

161
00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:23.320
or something like that, not without any issues, you know,

162
00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:29.840
what I'm saying, like.

163
00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:36.399
Agata, they woke up. She's good now, thank goodness. But

164
00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:43.399
that man has some demons and I've seen them.

165
00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:49.279
That wasn't the only time I've seen anything attached to him.

166
00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:51.360
At first I thought it was the house, and then

167
00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:56.679
I realized that it was just him. But aside from

168
00:09:56.679 --> 00:10:01.960
that experience, you know, like, I've had experiences within my

169
00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:05.480
house that I know for a fact we're attached to

170
00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:12.240
the house and not the people. Right after I had

171
00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:16.799
that particular encounter, I took my ass right home and

172
00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:19.919
he immediately did a cleansing on myself. I did a

173
00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:22.200
cleansing on the house, and I said, I don't know

174
00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:24.519
what the fuck it was that I saw, but Odo,

175
00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:31.799
I don't want that shit anywhere near me my class. Yeah,

176
00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:37.519
that was probably one of the first experience, but the

177
00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:39.799
first experience I had in that house when I first

178
00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:40.200
moved in.

179
00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:46.919
Wow, that's kind of wild. The whole thing, Like that

180
00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:50.679
whole thing was truly I'm shuck that the friends still

181
00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:56.559
dated him, Like you had a warning, yeah, uh, literal, warning, literal,

182
00:10:56.840 --> 00:11:00.840
and you know, but sometimes they just don't listen until

183
00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:04.200
until they tell the ready. Yeah, until the ready who

184
00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:06.960
hasn't had a friend like that, you know, or has

185
00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:11.840
been that friend? Yeah, true, true, so wow, but just

186
00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:16.399
the that's how strong this thing that was attached must

187
00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:19.840
have been if she saw it. Oh yeah, straight up

188
00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:25.320
manifesting like that. Horrifying, truly truly. Also, whenever you can

189
00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:28.480
send us the rest of your stories, yeah, I love

190
00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:36.759
that and put as much detail as you want. Part

191
00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:38.679
of that reminds me of something, but I already left

192
00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:40.960
my head, so never mind, oh really left their head?

193
00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:43.320
You know what? It reminded me of what it might

194
00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:49.399
be a story. Our mother told us her husband cleans, no,

195
00:11:49.440 --> 00:11:52.519
not cleans some sorry, she cleans the apartment sometimes. He's

196
00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:54.840
like a maintenance person for apartment buildings, and when they

197
00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:57.840
were in Sherman Oaks, that's what he did there. That's

198
00:11:57.879 --> 00:11:59.840
what he does. But you know, they get to live

199
00:11:59.879 --> 00:12:02.919
in property and he just is like basically almost a

200
00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:05.240
twenty four to seven like maintenance person, but he does

201
00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:08.279
have hours. But he would go to this property and

202
00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:10.960
then other properties in the area. And one of the

203
00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:13.440
properties he went to, he was he went in and

204
00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:16.720
he felt like this heavy presence in the house. And

205
00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:19.080
then as he was leaving, he turned this like you

206
00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:23.720
know how sometimes walk some closet doors are like a mirror, Yeah,

207
00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:26.639
like mine. Okay, So he was walking across the room

208
00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:28.320
and he could see the mirror because it was like

209
00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:31.000
almost as long as the wall. And he turned and

210
00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:34.039
there was just this thing, like a black shadow attached

211
00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:36.960
to the back of him, his back, like just hanging on.

212
00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:41.840
Oh don't like that. Whow that remind me of well,

213
00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:46.799
simonlar I just remember when there's so many stories like that. Yeah, yeah,

214
00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:50.960
too many. It's horrifying for many. Whenever I hear something

215
00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:54.279
hanging on to someone's back like that, immediately I'm like, oh,

216
00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:58.960
I gotta throw up. Yep, I don't remember. I think

217
00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:01.279
he because he's like, he's so nice just when you

218
00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:05.000
talk to him. Yeah, friend, he's so nice and carrying,

219
00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:07.279
and he also loves to choose me mad. Oh yeah,

220
00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:10.600
but he I think he walked across and then then

221
00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:13.279
until the whole day, he like didn't tell the thing

222
00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:15.759
to leave. He worked his whole day with it on

223
00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:18.720
its back on his back. He was getting heavier. Then

224
00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:20.240
when he was about to leave him he's like, all right,

225
00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:23.519
I know that you wanted me to carry you, but like,

226
00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:25.360
I gotta go now and you cannot come with me,

227
00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:27.879
but I hope that you got to rest a little

228
00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:32.240
bit by me carrying you around today. Wow. The way

229
00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:34.679
I would never say that, The way I would be like,

230
00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:39.399
get the fuck off me. He threw him back, no

231
00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:43.679
talk his way. So yeah, that's what that reminded me of.

232
00:13:44.279 --> 00:13:46.120
But wow, seriously, thank you so much for your story.

233
00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:54.559
I loved it. Yeah, it was cool, very creepy. Okay,

234
00:13:54.639 --> 00:14:00.559
are you ready? Okay, so we're talking about a haunted painting.

235
00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:04.080
We love cursed painting stories, but they're very hard to

236
00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:08.600
find in Latin America. Actually, cursed object stories overall seem

237
00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:11.480
pretty rare. But that's what led us to today's paranormal topic,

238
00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:17.279
the haunted painting of Bernardo Galvez. It's not Latino or

239
00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:20.919
Latin American, but it's Hispanic because this is a Spanish man,

240
00:14:21.320 --> 00:14:25.960
and the Spanish owe us. They owe us their stories.

241
00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:31.080
We want your stories, someone to suspect them. Yeah, and

242
00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:43.159
that's so bad, I guess some of sorry speyards. I

243
00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:48.159
feel like Donald dug Yeah, so this was a Spanish

244
00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:53.919
man because if it's a haunted painting, obviously he's dead. Yeah.

245
00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:57.399
So the portrait of Bernardo Galvez can be found in

246
00:14:57.440 --> 00:15:02.440
the Hotel Galves in Galveston. The hotel in the town

247
00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:06.039
are both named after him. Wow, I didn't know that,

248
00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:11.000
I know, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Also shout out to our

249
00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:15.240
cousin Luisa. She sent me a video while back about Galveston, Texas,

250
00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:17.720
and I was like, oh, yeah, there's a hotel there,

251
00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:22.360
and that led me to this painting. So thank you.

252
00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:29.399
Just kidding, okay. Bernardo de Galvez was born in seventeen

253
00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:33.240
forty six and was a Spanish military leader or colonizer

254
00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:38.039
if you will, and we will, if we will. He

255
00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:42.159
helped the Americans during the American Revolution. He served as

256
00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:46.720
a colonial governor in Spanish Louisiana and in Cuba, and

257
00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:51.759
at one point became the viceroy, which is like the governor, right, yes, yeah,

258
00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:54.080
like the person in charge of New Spain that you

259
00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:58.279
know has contact with the king in Spain. He was

260
00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:02.879
a seasoned veteran, having parts anticipated in several colonial wars,

261
00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:06.039
such as wars in North Africa, the Americas, but also

262
00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:10.399
across Europe. He supported the US colonists and the French

263
00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:13.399
during the US Revolution and won a bunch of battles,

264
00:16:13.960 --> 00:16:17.080
but the most successful battle was one in West Florida,

265
00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:20.159
which got rid of all British presents in the Gulf.

266
00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:24.039
He became a hero to both Spain and the US.

267
00:16:24.519 --> 00:16:27.080
He died in seventeen eighty six at the age of

268
00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:30.080
forty of typheiss, so he looked to a rivaled age

269
00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:35.039
for back then. Yeah. In recent times, though, he's mostly forgotten,

270
00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:39.720
with the exception of Galvez Day, a local holiday in Pensacola, Florida,

271
00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:43.759
and of course the place is named after him in Galveston, Texas,

272
00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:50.320
and Galvez Louisiana, Louisiana and Louisiana. I feel like I

273
00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:52.840
said it, yeah, but then I made it. No, No,

274
00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:59.440
I think you said it. Normal. Fun fact. In twenty fourteen,

275
00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:04.640
n Galvez received an honor US citizenship, which makes him

276
00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:06.920
one of eight people to have been awarded this honor.

277
00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:10.240
So there is a path to citizenship. You just have

278
00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:13.000
to be dead. You have to die first, and you

279
00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:18.119
had to have been a military yeah. Wow, wow, Wow,

280
00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:21.000
that's how you do it, folks. Maybe you had to

281
00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:26.160
be Spaniards, so they're like spicy Europeans, you know. Yeah, yeah,

282
00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:32.079
not for us, No, not for us. Yeah. And another

283
00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:34.640
fun fact, even though the city and hotel were named

284
00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:37.359
after a bed Nardo he actually never set but in

285
00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:43.599
either place. Hotel Galvez known today as Grand Galvez. Why

286
00:17:43.599 --> 00:17:46.240
would they change the name from Hotenguavis to grant call this?

287
00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:49.319
I don't know. That's kind of weird. That sounds worse. Yeah,

288
00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:54.920
it hotel Hotel Galvez. It rolls off the tongue. Yes,

289
00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:56.960
I was gonna say rings off the tongue, and I'm like,

290
00:17:57.160 --> 00:18:00.319
rings out. That's wrong. No, that's wrong. That's why I

291
00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:02.599
stop myself from saying it. Yeah, and you did, you did,

292
00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:06.160
But yeah, Grand Galvez. I think it feels weird to

293
00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:09.000
me because I had to say Galves in Spanish and Grand.

294
00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:11.400
I guess I could just say Grand Galvez. But it

295
00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:14.680
sounds weird, right Grand Maybe if you're white, Grand Galvez

296
00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:17.920
sounds better. I can't get over all those videos of

297
00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:25.599
like people like they say byeho in English jallejo and yeah,

298
00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:31.599
and I'm like, wy yeho, Yeah, Hotel Galvez gone. Sorry,

299
00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:35.960
Grand Galvez. Grand Galvez is located on twenty twenty four

300
00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:39.960
Seawall Boulevard in Galveston, Texas, right across the street from

301
00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:43.559
a beach on the Gulf of Mexico. Oh the Gulf

302
00:18:43.640 --> 00:18:47.920
of Mexico. Yes, yes, the Gulf of Mexico. Construction for

303
00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:52.000
Hotel Galvez started around nineteen hundred, but it didn't finish

304
00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:55.920
until nineteen eleven. It costs almost one million to build.

305
00:18:56.480 --> 00:18:59.079
Because of where it's located, the hotel and the entire

306
00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:04.359
area has had to whether hurricane after hurricane. One of

307
00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:06.799
the first really bad ones took place in nineteen hundred.

308
00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:11.039
Between six thousand and twelve thousand died during the Hurricane

309
00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:14.599
of nineteen hundred. During this devastating storm, a group of

310
00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:18.799
nuns from Saint Mary Orphans Home tried to survive. Saint

311
00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:22.279
Mary's was home to ninety orphans and ten nuns. They

312
00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:24.559
tried to save the children by tying nine kids with

313
00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:28.000
string to try and help them swim, but unfortunately, with

314
00:19:28.079 --> 00:19:32.160
the tumultuous waves, it made things worse. Since the kids

315
00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:34.880
and nuns were all tied together, they were all thrown

316
00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:37.519
around the water together until they were all dragged down

317
00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:42.720
at once. Oh that's terrible, right, Yeah. Most of them

318
00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:46.039
were never found, except for Sister Catherine. She and the

319
00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:49.680
nine children tied to her washed ashore where the hotel

320
00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:53.839
now stands. The kids and the sister were buried where

321
00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:57.680
they were found along with other victims as the hurricane. Now,

322
00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:00.519
employees and guests claim to see the figure of none.

323
00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:03.480
She's seen pacing the south lawn of the hotel and

324
00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:06.160
looking out to the sea, especially when a major storm

325
00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:10.079
is approaching. Guests of the hotel have felt their blankets

326
00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:13.359
being pulled by little hands during the night. People have

327
00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:16.720
also heard giggling, running, and crying, and it's believed these

328
00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:20.839
are the kids who died. There's also child size handprint

329
00:20:20.920 --> 00:20:24.640
along the bottom of the glass spot door. Hotel workers

330
00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:27.240
find themselves cleaning them off throughout the day, but they

331
00:20:27.279 --> 00:20:31.640
appear again and again. That's annoying. And this goes without saying,

332
00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:34.200
but kids are not allowed in this by area. But

333
00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:37.000
before it was a spot, it was the location for

334
00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:41.680
the hotel's former ice cream parlor and candy store. There's

335
00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:44.920
also a little girl seen bouncing a red ball, but

336
00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.920
the ball makes no sound as she bounces it. Then

337
00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:51.720
she's seen it fading as she walks away. She's also

338
00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:55.839
heard whispering ice cream, ice cream. Okay, that's I kind

339
00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:57.599
of love that. Like, if I was dead and I

340
00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:01.759
had to hunt people, I would like bumpos ass mm yeah, yeah,

341
00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:03.880
so it makes sense that you would be talking about

342
00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:07.160
this stuff you like, like ice cream. So I think that

343
00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:11.480
does make sense. And people are unsure if she's part

344
00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:15.880
of the Orphanage kids or a new spirit altogether. Oh

345
00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:21.440
I wonder. Yeah. People have also reported seeing an older

346
00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:23.759
girl in a white dress, a violet sash and a

347
00:21:23.839 --> 00:21:26.960
violet ribbon in her hair. She's standing there when the

348
00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:30.039
elevator doors open, and people think she's riding up to

349
00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:33.240
her floor, so they get in to wherever they're going.

350
00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:35.480
But when they get to their own floor, the girls

351
00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:39.079
nowhere to be seen. Don't like that. I guess she

352
00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:42.440
just likes the elevator. The most haunted room in Hotel

353
00:21:42.519 --> 00:21:46.559
Galvez is a room five hundred and one, home of Adra,

354
00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:51.480
the ghost bride. Every hotel has to have one. Yeah,

355
00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:53.519
I wouldn't be a haunted hotel if there was no

356
00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:58.240
either bride or woman in white or woman in white.

357
00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:02.400
According to Let's during the nineteen fifties, Odra was in

358
00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:05.240
her hotel waiting for her fiance to return to her.

359
00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:09.960
He was a mariner, so always out in the open ocean.

360
00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:13.119
She waited and waited. She would walk from her room

361
00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:17.839
to one of the hotel's rooftop turets turrets, yeah, turrets

362
00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:21.200
where she would search for his ship. This time around.

363
00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:23.400
His ship was supposed to have arrived days ago, and

364
00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:26.720
there was no word on air writing. Eventually she heard

365
00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:29.000
the ship was erect and no one survived. But she

366
00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:32.680
didn't give up, at least not yet. Several more days passed,

367
00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:34.839
and by then she figured he really was lost at

368
00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:38.200
sea and would never return. She gave up and hung

369
00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:42.079
herself from the turret on the rooftop. I don't know

370
00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:44.240
how much time went by after her death, but her

371
00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:47.880
fiance did return and was heartbroken to learn his soon

372
00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:51.000
to be wife had died by her own hand on

373
00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:53.119
the rooftop where she was said to have hung herself.

374
00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:56.960
People see orbits of light floating during the night. Why

375
00:22:57.000 --> 00:22:59.279
did he take so long? She would have been alive.

376
00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:03.759
Why didn't she wait longer? You know what, you're right,

377
00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:05.559
You're right. She could have waited a few more days

378
00:23:05.559 --> 00:23:09.240
and then she wouldn't be a ghost story. Yeah, anyone

379
00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:11.079
that has spent time in room five oh one has

380
00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:13.680
said the lights and the sinks turned on by themselves.

381
00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:16.720
The key for room five o'h one sometimes stops working

382
00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:20.200
and when desk clerks scan it, the computer displays expired

383
00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:23.440
nineteen fifty five. The phone in the room goes off,

384
00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:26.359
but there's never anyone on the other end. Some people

385
00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:29.319
hear a woman crying in the hall leading to the room,

386
00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:35.680
Oh my Shaila. Others feel the pressure of someone sitting

387
00:23:35.680 --> 00:23:37.799
in the bed, but when they look, no one's there.

388
00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:43.319
I hate that. And the following is a story that

389
00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:46.000
involves the fifth floor, but not room five oh one.

390
00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:50.599
Back in December, I stayed at the Hotel Galvez off

391
00:23:50.599 --> 00:23:53.799
the Sea Wall. The hotel is lovely but is notorious

392
00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:56.680
for being haunted, something I didn't realize. Told me stay there.

393
00:23:57.319 --> 00:23:59.920
Always google if your hotel is haunted. Yeah, you should,

394
00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:04.400
just as a precaution. Yeah, if you google, you'll see

395
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.640
the backstory, and I'd recommend doing so. Our room was

396
00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:11.119
situated near the elevators, which weren't which weren't a big

397
00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:13.519
deal because there weren't many people there because it was

398
00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:16.599
off season. Well, at four am, I was woking up

399
00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:19.440
by the sound of the elevator opening and closing. I

400
00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:21.319
didn't think much of it until I heard it again

401
00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:24.200
and again. I laid in the bed listening to the

402
00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:28.200
elevator open and shut, dinging and binging when closing. This

403
00:24:28.279 --> 00:24:30.640
went on for a good ten minutes of me just listening.

404
00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:33.400
I finally got the courage to get up and look

405
00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:36.960
out the people. I saw the elevator opening and closing

406
00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:39.759
by itself. No one was there. I then got the

407
00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:43.759
courage to leave my room and investigate. Nope, no, that's

408
00:24:43.880 --> 00:24:47.799
no for me, that's not for me. Dog. I walked

409
00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:50.359
out and saw no one there but the button being

410
00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:55.240
firmly held down on the outside. The elevator then closed

411
00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:58.160
and went up to the fifth floor and then came back.

412
00:24:58.839 --> 00:25:01.680
The whole process kept going for hours till Madenance arrived.

413
00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:05.079
They looked at everything and saw nothing wrong. They also

414
00:25:05.119 --> 00:25:08.319
said the elevator button was new, so I wouldn't have stuck.

415
00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:10.799
So the only thing that makes sense to me was

416
00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:15.000
some ghosts decided to ruin or getaway. I agree. Yeah,

417
00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:20.559
I don't think it was a broken elevator. And now

418
00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:24.519
onto the painting. I actually kind of forgot about the painting.

419
00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:27.640
Oh yeah, that was the whole play of this. The painting.

420
00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:35.559
Lovely painting, by the way. Yeah, it's actually a little horrifying, Yeah,

421
00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:39.039
a little bit. Yeah, I searched and searched, but could

422
00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:41.960
not find it when the painting was made or by who,

423
00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:46.960
but the artist of the painting was possibly Maya. There

424
00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:49.400
were a lot of pictures of the portrait online and

425
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:52.920
there's some writing on it. Maybe that talks more about

426
00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:54.440
the history of the painting. But I can't find a

427
00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:57.400
clear picture of it. So if you go read that

428
00:25:57.440 --> 00:26:01.839
and let us know it is unless we go ourselves.

429
00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:04.200
I don't know about that. I don't know if I'll

430
00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:07.839
find myself in Gabbles in Texas, right, if I'm ever there,

431
00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:12.559
I guess yeah, yeah. So the painting is located at

432
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:14.720
the end of a hallway in the lobby of the hotel.

433
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:17.480
People have noticed that the eyes in their portraits seem

434
00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:20.200
to follow them as they pass by. If you see

435
00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:22.160
the picture, though, it looks like they're following you, even

436
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:24.400
if you're looking at the picture on the phone. I

437
00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:26.839
was like, it's creepy. Yeah, like, bitch, why are you

438
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:31.079
looking at me? The book? Yeah, and the eyes almost

439
00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:34.839
lookly they're go owing. I don't know, yeah, like please

440
00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:44.519
way like m or Others feel uncomfortable when approaching their portrait,

441
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:47.160
and some even feel a huge drop in temperature when

442
00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:49.960
standing right in front of it. Some have said the

443
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:53.680
spirit of Bevez comes out of the painting and follows

444
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:57.759
them around the hotel. I could see him doing that. Yeah,

445
00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:05.000
he would, he would. That's so bad. Pictures of the

446
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:08.920
painting always come out blurry or with skull shaped orbs

447
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:12.200
covering the part. Trait, Dude, when you said blurry when

448
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:14.039
you were talking about the picture, there was like a

449
00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:16.680
weird robot voice and everything else that has been fine

450
00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:20.079
in the episode. So that's a little weird. I don't

451
00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:24.319
like that. The only pictures that ever come out clearly

452
00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:29.119
are from those who ask for permission to take a picture. Okay,

453
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:36.440
And that was a hotel. Wow, that was fun. Wow. Wow.

454
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:39.200
Only one part was Hispanic and that was the painting.

455
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:42.359
But I'm still I loved it all. Actually, it was good.

456
00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:46.400
I liked it. Yeah, yeah, okay, uh, and we'll take

457
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:48.079
a little break here and then come back with my

458
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:58.599
very depressing troue grim story. Okay. And so yeah, we'll

459
00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:01.079
just get into my part here. I was tagged in

460
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:03.880
a TikTok video about someone trying a case that happened

461
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:10.920
in their hometown of Lahabra, California. That's how they pronounce it. Yeah,

462
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:14.160
they have three parts on the case. I highly recommend

463
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.279
checking out their TikTok. If you use TikTok, I will

464
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:20.200
link it in the show notes because she is talking

465
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:23.759
about it with the lens from someone where this took place,

466
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:26.759
as well as you know, someone who knew the victim.

467
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:29.559
She mentions in her video that her older brother was

468
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:33.400
friends with him. And I wanted to cover it because

469
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.799
this case shook Lahabra, California, and nobody outside of the

470
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:42.000
town knows about it apparently, or even then, it's really

471
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:45.440
only remembered by those who were alive when it happened

472
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:47.799
or were old enough to remember it all taking place.

473
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:52.000
And I do want to give a content warning because

474
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:55.240
this does involve the horrific murder of a child as

475
00:28:55.279 --> 00:29:02.640
well as dismemberment and possible sexual abuse. Oh god, it's bad.

476
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.079
I also wanted to say that my main source is

477
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.599
the court transcript. You can find it if you just

478
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:11.079
look for people of the State of California versus John

479
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.480
Samuel Gobriel. It's all there and that's really how I

480
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:17.160
piece all this together. But there are some other sources,

481
00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:21.279
but that was the main one. So Juan Delgado was

482
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:25.079
a brother's son and friend. He was twelve years old

483
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:28.880
and a sixth grader at Washington Middle School in Lahabra, California.

484
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:32.119
Everyone that knew him described him as an energetic, kind,

485
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:36.680
super funny kid. He was one of seven children, the

486
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:40.960
fourth oldest, and his parents were Juan and Margharita Delao,

487
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:47.640
a big family. He was described by his parents as restless,

488
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:52.000
but obedient and hard working. He was always helping elders

489
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.240
in the neighborhood carrying their groceries and from their car.

490
00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:58.359
He was always doing your work for a little bit

491
00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:01.720
of extra money, and he was just always out and about.

492
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:04.240
Everyone on the block knew him. When he wasn't playing

493
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:06.680
soccer or doing yard work, he was at a butcher

494
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:10.160
shop that was on Harbor Boulevard, and all the employees

495
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.400
there knew him. He would they would just let him

496
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.400
hang out there and then he would carry shoppers' bags

497
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:17.960
to their cars for tips. But he wasn't an official employee.

498
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:19.880
They just let him do that because it was there

499
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:23.880
all the time. The hustler, he really was the owner

500
00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:28.039
of that butcher shop. Imron Bolant said that Juan was

501
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:30.400
such a good kid who wanted to grow up fast

502
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:32.839
and work to help his mom because he really loved

503
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:37.920
his mom. On March seventeenth, nineteen ninety eight, Juan and

504
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.599
his friend Armando Luna received attention and they were supposed

505
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:43.759
to report to the homework club from three thirty to

506
00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:46.960
four thirty on that day, but just before three thirty,

507
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:50.319
Huan told his friend Armando that he wasn't going and

508
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:53.640
he just left. But before he did that, he told

509
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:55.480
Armando that he didn't want to go home because he

510
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:57.160
was scared of his mom. He didn't want to get

511
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.799
in trouble for detention and then for not showing up

512
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:03.160
to attention, and it seemed to him not wanting to

513
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:09.799
go home was a common thing for Juan. H In February,

514
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:12.240
so the month before this happened, Juan had gone up

515
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.160
to another friend, Juan Duarte, and asked if he could

516
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:17.960
spend the night, but Juan Duarta's father was like, no,

517
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:20.599
go home, and he said I can take you home,

518
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:22.759
but Juan said no, and he said he was going

519
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.400
to his aunt's house instead. So he was always asking

520
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:31.400
friends this. But back to March seventeenth, after skipping to attention,

521
00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:34.359
Juan went to soccer practice and was walking home with

522
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:38.319
his friend Cipriano, and he told Cipriano that he didn't

523
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:40.279
want to go home because his mom was going to

524
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:44.720
spink him. So Sipiano's mom did let Juan spend the

525
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:47.000
night on that day, and the next morning she took

526
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:50.359
them both to school March eighteenth, but after she dropped

527
00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:52.799
them off, Juan told Cipriano that he wasn't going to

528
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:55.559
school and he left. He also didn't go to soccer

529
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:59.880
practice that day. Sometime after school. Jusefina, a classmate of Juan,

530
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:03.880
was at her family's restaurant in Pastor on the harbor

531
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:07.680
of Boulevard, and she heard someone calling her name. She

532
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.720
turned around and it was Juan. Juan was walking with

533
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:14.680
a one armed man and they were in the alley

534
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:18.920
behind El Pastor, and Juan looked normal and happy to her,

535
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:20.680
and it seemed like he wanted to go inside to

536
00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:23.640
go chat with her, because again he's so friendly and

537
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:27.039
he's just outgoing and he talks to everyone who's seas

538
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:28.960
and so he wanted to go and talk to his

539
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.839
friend Josefina. But the man that he was with Jester

540
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:35.079
to Juan to stay with him, and so he didn't

541
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:39.680
go inside the restaurant. The pair left. Later around four

542
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:43.720
point thirty, Cipiano, the front from the night before, was

543
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:46.279
leaving soccer practice and walking home and he ran into

544
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:49.519
Juan at Lahabor Market and Juan asked to go to

545
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:52.559
Cepiano's house again, wanted to spend the night, and they

546
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:55.759
walked up together and he was hanging out his house.

547
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.519
But that evening, when Cepiano's mom got home from work,

548
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:01.279
she in there and I was like, what's he doing

549
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:09.920
here again, which I can already hear likes, But Juan

550
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:12.799
told Cepiano's mom that he didn't want to go home

551
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:17.920
because his parents were in Los Angeles. Where is Lahambra.

552
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:23.599
It is in southern California. Like with traffic, it can

553
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:26.039
be up to an hour about thirty two miles away, Okay,

554
00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:28.799
I was close, So yeah, that's what he told Cepiano's

555
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:30.799
mom that his parents weren't there, they were in LA

556
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:33.599
But she was like, no, I'm taking you home. And

557
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.720
so they got to Juan's house around nine thirty pm.

558
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:38.920
She went to the front door. First, she spoke to

559
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:41.200
Juan's older brother. She got back to her car and

560
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:44.160
she told Juan go inside. They're waiting for you. And

561
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:46.519
Juan did leave the car, but he might have not

562
00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:49.359
even gotten inside. It's unclear to me what happened. I

563
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:55.200
am so interested to find out more. Yeah, so it

564
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:57.480
seems it seems like he didn't go inside. But that

565
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:01.160
was the last time that Cipriano saw his friend. Wow,

566
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:04.680
And I don't Yeah, I really don't think that maybe

567
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:07.039
his brother saw him. Brothers saw him away walk away,

568
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:10.719
But I can't find like details on that part right there.

569
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:15.639
But when Juan failed to return home Tuesday the seventeenth

570
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.079
and then Wednesday the eighteenth, his mom wasn't too worried

571
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:21.800
because apparently this again was a normal thing for him.

572
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:24.400
But she says, like, oh, he was just so friendly.

573
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:26.880
He was always our friend's houses. He would often just

574
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:30.840
forget to go home. He's so independent. He and this

575
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:34.079
independence worried her and she thought something would happened to

576
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.440
him because of how friendly an independent he was. Yeah,

577
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:40.119
so it wasn't alarming for him to not be home

578
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:43.559
two days in a row. When he finally didn't come

579
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:46.440
back on Thursday, March nineteenth, this is when she was

580
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:49.480
worried because he'd never been gone that long. How many

581
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:55.559
she calls us. No, this was now three that he

582
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:59.679
hadn't been home, but only one from when he his

583
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:04.800
friend last night. Okay, okay, gotcha. Yeah, and so she

584
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.639
called the police and yeah, the police did actually respond

585
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:12.440
and talk to neighbors, friends and family, and then you know,

586
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:16.119
like Friday goes by without hearing any news. Then on

587
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:20.199
the morning of Saturday, March twenty first, Lorenzo Estrada was

588
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:23.559
guardianing his front yard on the corner of North Willow

589
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:28.000
Street and Greenwood Avenue in Lahabra. His neighbor walked out

590
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:30.239
to him and told him that he had just seen

591
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:34.360
a big cylinder shaped piece of concrete on the Greenwood

592
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:39.320
side of his property. Oh and this cylinder shaped concrete

593
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:41.880
thing had not been there when Lorenzo got home around

594
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:44.239
one fifteen in the morning. So he went to go

595
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:46.320
look at it because he's like, what's this doing in

596
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.119
my house? And when he walked up to it, he

597
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:52.440
noticed that there was a red liquid uzine from this

598
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:58.239
concrete thing tube cylinder. He called the police right away.

599
00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:00.800
They arrived, they all saw the blood looking from the

600
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:05.079
concrete cylinder. Not long after, they received a call about

601
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:08.480
a second cylinder found on Walnut street, not that far

602
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:12.679
from this first cylinder at all, like do less than

603
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:17.039
two blocks away on the same street as Lorenzo Estrada's house.

604
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:21.440
They found. Investigators found wire wood, a target basket, a

605
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.800
blue plastic jug, a sandal one sandal of a pair,

606
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:29.440
and a shopping cart with wet cement. And right behind

607
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.679
that shopping cart there was a trail of blood and

608
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:35.639
went cement like it just like you could tell someone

609
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:38.280
was pushing nothing along and it was just leaving a trail.

610
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:42.440
That second cylinder was only a few blocks away from

611
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.559
the first, and when police followed the path of wet

612
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:48.719
cement and blood from that shopping cart, it led them

613
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:54.000
straight to a shed behind a house on Greenwood Avenue.

614
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:57.760
These cylinders were taken to the corner's office almost right away,

615
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:00.880
where they broke them open, and in the cylinders they

616
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:05.159
found remains, some in black plastic bags, others just inside

617
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:08.960
the concrete cylinder. They still needed DNA confirmation, but with

618
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:12.880
the family having reported Juan Delado missing, they were suspecting

619
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:17.840
this was fun. Oh wow. His lower abdomen and pelvic

620
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:21.079
area were still missing. They were not in the cylinders.

621
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:27.239
A third, yeah, a third cylinder containing these body parts

622
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:32.440
was found next year, but his genitalia was never found.

623
00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:40.239
What yeah, oh my god. And by now they they

624
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:43.960
had DNA confirmation that it was Juan del And so

625
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:46.880
at the same time as these cylinders are at the

626
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:50.360
corner's office, investigators are following that path to the shed

627
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:53.360
they found the shed. They needed to know who this shed,

628
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:55.519
you know, belonged to before they could just break it open,

629
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:57.079
like you know, they need an official like warrant to

630
00:37:57.079 --> 00:38:00.480
get in there, right, So they learned that thirty one

631
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:03.360
year old John Gobriel lived in the shed. He rented

632
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:05.800
it for one hundred dollars a month from a family

633
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:11.599
and John Golbri was arrested after checking out of the

634
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:15.599
Lahabra Motel on the morning of the twenty second. So

635
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:20.360
the day after they found all this, and as he

636
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:26.239
was arrested, investigators entered the shed. And you know, at

637
00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:29.360
the same time, the coroner was now conducting the official autopsy.

638
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:33.920
So in the shed they found a saw, saw blade, scissors,

639
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:38.079
a knife, a bloody cleaver, bowl, cutters, a trowel, a

640
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:43.119
capping tool, tin snips, latex gloves, a black stock pot

641
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.519
with cement inside, and then just the packaging for all

642
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:48.800
these things, it looked like they had just been bought.

643
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:53.840
What John Gobril's fingerprints were found on the stock pot,

644
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:56.920
the capping tool, and the packaging for the cleaver. And

645
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:59.599
for those that don't know, a capping tool is that

646
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:02.639
tool that flat with the handle that's used to flatten cement.

647
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:06.239
Have you seen it? I think so, yeah, I think

648
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:08.239
you have. If you look up. Keptin told you'll recognize

649
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:14.679
the picture right away. And that thing had his fingerplant

650
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.400
fingerprints along with other tools. They also found wet cement

651
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:21.000
on the floor, blood on the carpet that would later

652
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:25.480
be identified as Juan Delgados. They also saw found blood

653
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:28.760
on the dresser, a wall, a quilt, and a blanket.

654
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:33.280
They also found black trash backs, receipts for purchases made

655
00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:38.000
at super Kmart, home depot, pornography, children's books which was

656
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:43.000
very random, and children's toys, as well as a sandal

657
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:45.760
matching the one found on the street by one of

658
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:48.639
the cylinders that single pair. The other pair was inside

659
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:53.480
the shed. And then there was also some shoes and

660
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.920
clothing that were identified later as belonging to Juan. His

661
00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:00.559
brother identified the clothing and the shoes, and there was

662
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:03.719
a detention slip with Huan's name on it, so there

663
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:06.480
was like no denying he was in the shed wow

664
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:10.079
at all. And obviously once they did, like you know,

665
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:13.760
testing the blood, they found that it was Once the

666
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:17.400
shed was also searched for evidence of sexual assault, but

667
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:23.800
nothing was positive, like nothing was conclusive. The autopsy and

668
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:27.000
again warning this part is probably the most graphic it's

669
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:31.480
going to get. The autopsy showed trauma to the left

670
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:36.480
eye that was consistent with asphyxiation, but a specific cause

671
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:40.280
of death could not be identified. They did also learn

672
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:43.719
that the dismemberment of Huan was done after he was

673
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:47.920
already dead. And when they found the third cylinder a

674
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:50.559
year later, it was tested for semen and they found

675
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:54.559
a partial protein based on just sperm heads. Like usually,

676
00:40:54.639 --> 00:41:00.920
I guess when the FBI is identifying like that, they're

677
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:03.800
looking for a head and a tail. They don't just

678
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:07.000
look at the head because it could be anything, apparently,

679
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:09.920
but when the police were looking at it, the person

680
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:13.599
the coroner, not corner, but the forensic person who looked

681
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:17.000
at it and said, yes, this is a semen because

682
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:20.880
of the first half. But the FBI would later, well,

683
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.000
I guess we'll go into that part in the trials

684
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:26.360
and it doesn't matter this part. But so at first

685
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:30.440
they reported that they found this half specimen of semen

686
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:34.039
a single protein, but there was no tale visible and

687
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:39.159
they were unfortunately unable to extract DNA from this small

688
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:43.440
specimen that was found. They also found zero defensive wounds

689
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:47.199
on Juan. There was no evidence that could show exactly

690
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:49.079
how Juan was killed. The only thing they knew for

691
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.320
certain is that he was dismembered after he was already dead.

692
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:56.320
So and even his death certificate it says death by

693
00:41:56.440 --> 00:42:01.480
unspecified means, and they said that he was likely asphyxiated

694
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:07.039
was the most likely cause. And his remains were cut

695
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:10.840
into six separate parts, and they found this gray powdery

696
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:15.199
material on all the remains, which is probably that cement mix.

697
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:20.920
The larger of the three cylinders was two hundred and

698
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:25.360
four pounds and the smaller one was eighty eight pounds,

699
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.639
and I couldn't find how heavy the third cylinder was

700
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.000
that was found one year later, but it was smaller

701
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:37.360
than the other two. And John Goldbriel was officially charged

702
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:40.920
on June twenty ninth, nineteen ninety eight. So this all

703
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:43.840
happened in March and he was officially charged in June

704
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:46.280
with the malice murder of Juan del Gado in violation

705
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:49.519
with Pinocle Section one eight seven. They also charged him

706
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.320
with the attempted commission of the performance of elude and

707
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:58.719
Lassevius Act upon a child hundred fourteen. Then you know,

708
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:03.320
as what happens with all these very vital cases. The

709
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:06.400
defendants single team and the prosecution both had to build

710
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:08.920
their case. So it took a while for this to

711
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:12.159
go to court. But on September tenth, two dozen one,

712
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:18.559
jury selection began. Wait what but it was postponed? Oh okay.

713
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:22.519
On September tenth, two dozen one, jury selection began, but

714
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:26.440
it was postponed. Oh okay, okay. Two thousand and one.

715
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:29.599
This happened, okay, okay. See yeah, and so it was

716
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:34.000
postponed because of September eleventh, two one. Wow, the defense

717
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:37.760
must be why nobody remembers this right? So much happened?

718
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:42.000
The defense fear that John Golbriel would not receive a

719
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:46.519
fair trial due to the growing anti Arab sentiment after

720
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:52.159
nine to eleven, because John was a John Goldbril was

721
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:57.719
an Egyptian national. Wow, I'm sorry to say, I just

722
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:04.639
assumed he was why I know, I know you did. Whoops, yeah,

723
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:07.199
I know he was visibly like Middle Eastern and so

724
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:13.400
oh wow. Yeah they were concerned about that. But finally

725
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:17.960
jury selection began. Jury selection began October two thousand and one,

726
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:21.639
which arguably, arguably is not that long after September eleventh,

727
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:25.840
So I would I would imagine that anti Arab sentiment

728
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:29.559
still happened, Yeah, only a month later. Yeah, it probably

729
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:34.239
just grew after a month. Yeah. But before I go

730
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:36.679
on with the trial and the sentencing and all that,

731
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:39.519
I want to talk about who John go'brian was, how

732
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:42.079
he ended up in Lahabor and his religis both Juan

733
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:45.280
del Gado and I'm so sorry to do this because

734
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:47.159
I hate doing this, but this is going to be

735
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:51.480
in part two. Wow. Yeah, because we need to catch

736
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.960
up on episodes. We need to build a bank here. Yeah.

737
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:02.559
But yeah, that was the first half of the k Wow. Yeah,

738
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:04.800
and I'm just shocked. That's something so horrific and like

739
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:07.119
I didn't even know what happened. And that's that We're

740
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:12.840
from California, just not this part of California. Yeah, but yeah,

741
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:16.199
it's a really you know, a tragic case. But yeah,

742
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:24.880
we'll finish that in part two before we go. Do

743
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:31.559
you have any speaky recommendations? I do. It reminded me

744
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:36.159
of it because of the hurricane that happened in the

745
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:41.920
story about the hotel. Oh, it was a fantastic land.

746
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:45.679
It was a book club pick from my work book club,

747
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:49.280
which is falling apart, by the way, falling apart. Yeah,

748
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:51.960
they kept putting around. I'm like, I was trying to

749
00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:54.719
tell everyone when we first started this, I'm like, okay,

750
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:58.599
typically you have a month to read the book. But then,

751
00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:01.280
like the first book we finished hell fast because it

752
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:02.960
was a free to make fat and thriller, you know

753
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:06.719
those are like, yeah, you read those hell fast. And

754
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:08.320
they're like, oh, well, let's just go off with the

755
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:10.199
number of pages and what kind of book it is

756
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:12.159
and then we'll set that something. They were like sitting

757
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:15.599
our meat are to finish the book like two weeks,

758
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:20.679
three weeks and random every book was different, and yeah,

759
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:25.639
the last I think everyone only read the first like

760
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:28.320
two books, and after that people started falling off. So

761
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:34.760
but I have been reading them, and I've been reading

762
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:39.360
books I wouldn't normally read. So that's interesting. That's cool. Yeah,

763
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:41.480
So what was this one again. This one is called

764
00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:45.960
Fantastic Land. It is I would say it's like a thriller,

765
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:52.360
So let me just read the synopsis. Real quick description. Okay,

766
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:54.960
it says ideal for fans of Lord of the Flies

767
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:58.960
and Battle Royale, a gripping thriller in which an amusement

768
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:02.039
park becomes a scene have a real life nightmare, written

769
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:05.440
as an investigation with first person interviews. So then it says,

770
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:09.000
when online personas take the place of private identities, what

771
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:13.559
happens when these societal constructs disappear. The employees of Fantastic

772
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.480
Land find out after a hurricane hits the Florida coast,

773
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:19.960
Fantastic Land has been the theme park where fun is

774
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:24.079
guaranteed for nearly forty years. After the hurricane, detectives and

775
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:26.360
others who make it to the survivors more than a

776
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:30.360
month later discover a scene out of a nightmare. Evidence

777
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:33.440
of grizzly murders are all over the park. Yet the

778
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:36.079
only ones who could have committed these savage and horrible

779
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:38.920
acts were the college age employees. What drove them to

780
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:43.960
such violence? So it was interesting at first, it felt

781
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:46.079
kind of slow, and I'm like, okay, get on with this,

782
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:50.719
and I didn't like the writing style necessarily, like it

783
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:55.480
felt a little bit try hard, Like oh, like there

784
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:57.920
was this one, but a lot of the characters, not

785
00:47:57.960 --> 00:47:59.480
just one, but the one I remember off the top

786
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:02.119
of my head. They're asking her about her boyfriend. She's

787
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:04.119
describing him, and she's like, oh, he's he was such

788
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:06.039
a hustler. That's what I liked about him. But the

789
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:07.639
way she was describing the I'm like, no one in

790
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:10.960
the right fucking mind would ever say this. No one talks. Yeah, no,

791
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:14.920
I'm sorry, but no. And then there's like little things

792
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:17.320
like that here and there, and then there's one part

793
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:20.840
towards the end where they're interviewing the son of the CEO.

794
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:23.320
He's like, this hot chica came up to me and

795
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:26.440
I'm like, oh my gosh, shut up. If there's nothing

796
00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:30.920
I can so not on my block. Yeah type of

797
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:34.800
Spanish Spanish. But he was just saying chica because I'm

798
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.400
assuming it's a Latina. He would himself was not Latino.

799
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:41.199
That's worse. That's worse. Yeah. Yeah, it's like that guy

800
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:43.880
on TikTok that It's like when you're a white coworker

801
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.079
wants to meet latinas and he's like, he does a parody.

802
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:47.880
And I don't know if he actually has a Latino wife,

803
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:49.880
because that would be even funnier. I'm not sure. It's

804
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:51.719
the guy who also persons to be like a fat

805
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:55.920
guy at parties. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, that's just hilarious.

806
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:59.880
It is. But yeah, the writing style it didn't mesh

807
00:48:59.880 --> 00:49:04.360
with me. Like I didn't like how the characters talked,

808
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:07.639
because like it was an interview style, you know, and

809
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:10.039
then there was this other character like they'll say because

810
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:12.599
you when you're talking, you say like but then and

811
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:14.400
this is so petty. I don't even think anyone cares

812
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:19.039
about this. But where the word like was inserted, it

813
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:22.280
didn't come off as natural. Oh do you know what

814
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:24.679
I mean? Okay, I do, I do. Yeah, Like, you

815
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:27.679
can't just stay like anywhere in the sentence. It has

816
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:30.400
to make sense, you know what I mean? So I

817
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:32.960
didn't like that. But it was still interesting and things

818
00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:34.960
really picked up towards the end and I couldn't put

819
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:38.159
it down. I needed definish it. Okay, So it was

820
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:41.280
still a good read. It was still entertaining. I didn't

821
00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:47.000
like the theory, the explanation that the reporter in the

822
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:49.519
book came up with for the violence, the reason for

823
00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:54.239
the violence. It was very born to me, so I

824
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:57.320
didn't like that. But I love an interview style book.

825
00:49:57.400 --> 00:49:59.880
I love that absolutely. And I learned the name of

826
00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:03.039
that and I forgot it already. I don't know, so yeah,

827
00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:05.039
that's my it's a style like it has a name,

828
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:07.360
which of course it does everything does right, Yeah, but

829
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:09.800
I didn't know this until recently, and I'm like, wait,

830
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:14.599
I'm a fan, Wait I like this, yeah, so so yeah,

831
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:17.159
I mean it was still I think people would still

832
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:20.880
enjoy it. It was very gory, obviously m hm. And I

833
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:22.760
ended up breading it. I think it was like three

834
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:26.519
point seventy five because I was like, first, I'm like,

835
00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:28.920
I don't like this, Like I'm like, I felt like dragging.

836
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:30.480
And then I hate it, you know, like I said,

837
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:34.239
the writing, the way the characters talk, but because of

838
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:38.599
how it caught me, like it gripped me the my attention.

839
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:40.159
Towards the end, I'm like, oh, I had to wait

840
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:43.679
it like higher like you know, so anyway, Yeah, it's

841
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:50.320
fantastic Land by Mike back oven Oven okay O buck Obin,

842
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:53.000
I'm not sure I pronounced it well, yeah, one of

843
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:57.559
those is right, probably, Yeah, okay, I'll have the No,

844
00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:02.480
I don't know if i'll check it out. I mean, yeah,

845
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:04.599
I could let you borrow away one day, take another

846
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:08.119
if I remember, I'll think about it. I also, do

847
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:08.800
you have another one?

848
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:09.119
Yeah?

849
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:13.360
I listened to Bunny by Mona Awad and it's wanted

850
00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:17.239
to ask you, but it was hella weird. I don't

851
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:20.360
know if I have an easier time reading it then

852
00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:23.440
listening to it, because some parts I'd like I didn't

853
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:26.639
realize I got to the end. But maybe it's because

854
00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:28.960
apparently it's a series. I didn't even know it's a series.

855
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:31.320
I thought this was the only one. Yeah, I didn't

856
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:33.440
know that. So the way it ended, I think it

857
00:51:33.480 --> 00:51:37.119
makes sense because there's a part two, so okay, okay,

858
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:41.679
But a lot of things, I mean, the main character

859
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:45.039
is a little crazy, not to say in like derogatory,

860
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:48.159
like she is, you know, like truly no, but she is,

861
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:51.880
and so a lot of like what she says, you

862
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:55.159
don't know if it's reality or not. And it's sometimes

863
00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:59.239
liable narrator. But it also has like a vibe of

864
00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:01.559
dark academic Yeah, because she all let me read the

865
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:06.760
description really quick. I think that's where it loses you now, Yes, yeah.

866
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:10.360
Samantha Heather Mackie couldn't be more of an outsider in

867
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:15.840
her small, highly selective MFA program at New England's Warren University.

868
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:19.800
A scholarship student who prefers the company of her dark

869
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:23.559
imagination to that of most people. She's utterly repelled by

870
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:26.760
the rest of her fiction writing cohort, a click of

871
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:30.880
unbearably twee rich girls who call each other Bunny and

872
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:34.400
seem to move and speak as one. But everything changes

873
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:38.400
when Samantha receives an invitation to the Bunny's fabled smut

874
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:43.639
salon and finds herself inexplicably drawn to their front door,

875
00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:47.239
ditching her only friend Ava in the process. As Samantha

876
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:51.599
plunges deeper and deeper into the bunny sinister yet saccharin world,

877
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:56.079
beginning to take part in the ritualistic off campus workshop

878
00:52:56.199 --> 00:53:00.639
where they conjure their monstrous creations, the edges of reality

879
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:05.639
begin to blur so I mean it doesn't begin to blur. Soon,

880
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:08.280
her friendships with Ava and the Bunnies will be brought

881
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:12.280
into a deadly collision. The spellbinding new novel from one

882
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:14.320
of our most fear. That part doesn't matter, but yeah,

883
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:18.599
that's what it's about. Okay, I might check that. Actually,

884
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:20.280
that one is on my TBR. If I would have

885
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:23.039
reminded myself what the synopsis was, I think I would

886
00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:26.360
have been more okay, yeah, like I would have remembered

887
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:28.360
because I don't know, maybe in my mind would just

888
00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:30.320
wasn't in it. In this one, I couldn't pay attention

889
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:32.199
that much and it was hard to follow, and it

890
00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:34.679
could have just been a meeting. And also you know

891
00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:38.679
what you need an ADHD diagnosis and application, and then

892
00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:44.400
you'll probably be maybe say that because I can read now,

893
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:47.719
but I listened to this one. No, true, I can't read.

894
00:53:48.920 --> 00:53:53.199
Listening is actually harder because I'm not just gonna sit

895
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:55.599
there and listen and do nothing. I have to multitasks.

896
00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:57.960
But then, like I don't pay attention in some parts.

897
00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:00.360
The thing that's risky for me when i'm multitas is

898
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:04.239
what I'm multi tasking with. If I am reading something else, no,

899
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:09.800
absolutely not. But if I'm walking or writing my bike,

900
00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:14.719
or if I'm in also writing something, it's tricky you know,

901
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:17.119
then I sometimes I do that, So that's probably what

902
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:19.679
happens Okay, yeah I can't.

903
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:19.760
But.

904
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:26.840
Yeah, it got it picked up towards the ending, and

905
00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:31.280
then I was like, what the fuck? Okay, I would

906
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:36.360
still recommend it because also it was like cold tea witchy.

907
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:40.599
I love that. Uh mean, girls click, I love that.

908
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:45.480
And the audio book was actually good because I like

909
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:50.920
the different voices she had for the different bunnies. The girls. Yeah,

910
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:53.159
and one of them talked Caelifoni, like hello, bubbly. But

911
00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:54.840
the thing she would say, You're like, what the this

912
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:58.360
is giving me scream queens vibe? Yeah, vibe kind of.

913
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:00.800
I love scream Queens. But the thing I don't like

914
00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:03.880
is a dark academia. It's it's so serious. It takes

915
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:07.239
yourself so seriously, and I can't stand something that's try hard.

916
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:08.760
I can't stand it, you know what I mean, you

917
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:12.320
really can. Last book you just mentioned that was your

918
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:16.800
critique similar similar vibes. These ones really think that they're

919
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:19.239
like so dark because they're in this MFA program and

920
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:21.360
what they write in their minds. And now I'm just like,

921
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:26.679
get over your fucking self, dude. Like, so that's one

922
00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:28.880
thing I think, But you know what, someone with similar

923
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:32.239
vibes and maybe in an f MFA program. I really

924
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:36.960
enjoyed it. Maybe I really like the aspect of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

925
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:39.559
Another thing there was like these certain characters that I

926
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:42.559
feel like they didn't delve into that much. But now

927
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:46.039
that I know it's a series, maybe that's why that means.

928
00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:47.400
I think also that would help me. If I knew

929
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:49.239
the series, then I would have been like, okay, like

930
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.880
this probably will be more go more in depth in

931
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:57.159
the second book, so right right, yeah, okay, that one

932
00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:00.880
I will keep on my to be horned then, and

933
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:02.880
now that I know that I'm what I'm going into,

934
00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:05.559
I feel like, yeah, I will like it more or

935
00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:16.000
understand it more. At least I don't have spooky recommendations

936
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:19.440
that are spooky other than I did place a hold

937
00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:25.239
on this book called Julie Chan Is Dead. Oh that's

938
00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:28.039
on my TVR. Okay, I haven't read it yet, so

939
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:30.760
I don't know how it will be. But it says

940
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:33.320
for fans of Bunny and Yellow Face, which I've read neither,

941
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:39.039
you might like it. But it's a thriller and it

942
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:42.599
apparently has like, you know, suspense. A young woman steps

943
00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:46.400
into her deceased Twins influencer life. Someone said Twins and

944
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:49.880
I was there. I was there immediately, so yeah, that's

945
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:54.039
on my list. Listen to this first sentence of the synopsis.

946
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:57.360
Julie Chan has nothing her twisting, her twin sister has

947
00:56:57.400 --> 00:57:03.280
everything except the pulse. Wow. Right, And so immediately I'm like, yeah,

948
00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:06.840
I'm gonna check that out. So I place the hold

949
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:10.559
and I'm thirty fourth in line. So it's twenty three

950
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:13.880
week wait damn. I tagged it, but I didn't because

951
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:15.760
I had a bunch of other books because I was

952
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:17.239
listening to so I was like, oh, I'm not going

953
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:18.719
to borrow yet, and I bet you now there's like

954
00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:24.000
a long as I did get Libro FM. Oh you

955
00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:28.360
need to yeah, because my library didn't have the audiobook

956
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:32.159
version of Jesus and John Wayne, and I tried reading it. However,

957
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:34.679
I just was not in it. I couldn't read. I

958
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:38.039
love listening to nonfiction books because reading them is hard.

959
00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:41.280
Those are my favorites who listen to me too. Yeah,

960
00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:43.440
I just and you get twenty one days. And I

961
00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:45.559
just was so busy writing other things that I just

962
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:48.679
couldn't read. But sometimes I can listen. And that's actually

963
00:57:48.719 --> 00:57:52.079
what I finished on my train ride back to Vancouver.

964
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:57.480
From Seattle, but so I placed a hold. So that's

965
00:57:57.480 --> 00:57:59.199
why I got Libro FM so I could listen to that.

966
00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:02.360
And I also placed a hold on the Haunting of

967
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:05.079
Room nine oh four. That's a fourteen week wait for me.

968
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:06.079
I'm seventh in line.

969
00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:06.400
Wow.

970
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:10.400
But the Haunting of Room nine oh four is let's see,

971
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:15.519
Olivia Becente was never supposed to have the gift. But basically,

972
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:19.000
this girl unexpectedly dies, and then this other girl can't

973
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:22.480
stop seeing and hearing things from after this girl died.

974
00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:27.679
And she's an in demand paranormal investigator. She's scared her job,

975
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:30.519
but you know, that other girl still haunts her. And

976
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:34.400
it takes place at the Brown Palace, a landmark Denver hotel,

977
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:38.079
and every few years a girl is found dead in

978
00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:40.440
room nine oh four. No one can explain it. It doesn't

979
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:42.440
matter what room she checked into the night before, it's

980
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:45.599
always room nine to four. Wow. And that's what she's investigating.

981
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:49.000
I love a mystery like that occurs, sort of, it

982
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:50.880
feels like, you know where, It's like every year this

983
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:54.440
happens and we can't explain it. That kind of stuff.

984
00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:56.840
I'm again, I'm there for it. I'm seated. I will

985
00:58:56.880 --> 00:59:00.119
read it. That's why I loved this cursed house. This

986
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:02.280
girl's house was like twist out their twists, how their twists? Like,

987
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:04.239
I'm like, what the book? What it really was? And

988
00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:06.760
remember I kept texting like, oh my god, now this happens.

989
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:10.920
I loved every minute of it. So those are my holds.

990
00:59:11.000 --> 00:59:13.679
I don't know how they're gonna be yet because I

991
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:17.119
haven't read them. Because again, I've read Jesus and John Wayne,

992
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:19.639
and I highly recommend Jesus and John Wayne. It's not

993
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:23.039
a spooky recommendation though, because it's not spooky, although you

994
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:26.039
will be horrified while reading it, so maybe it is

995
00:59:26.079 --> 00:59:30.639
a little bit, yes, you will. I've been in a

996
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:34.039
Carmen passed down her obsession with like fundamentalists. I did,

997
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:39.320
so I did listen or started listening to fuck I

998
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:43.199
forgot the name again. In my Mother's House, In the

999
00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:45.239
House of my Mother, The House of my Mother. Yeah,

1000
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:48.760
The House of my Mother by Sherry Frankie about Ruby Frankie.

1001
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:52.360
That's what I started listening to. So that's what I'm

1002
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:56.480
actually reading. And again I've been listening to Only in

1003
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:59.000
Bed with the Right, which talks about a lot of

1004
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:02.440
this kind of stuff, such a good podcast. It's so good.

1005
01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:06.320
And then I also started listening to A Bit Fruity,

1006
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:10.119
another great podcast, yeah, because he was a guest on

1007
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:13.199
in Bed with the Right. And then I also had

1008
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:16.519
been meaning to listen to Weird Little Guys already, and

1009
01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:18.920
so I started checking out Weird Little Guys. I started

1010
01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:21.519
on the South African episode. Okay, me too. I'm like

1011
01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:24.599
on the third or fourth one already of this. But

1012
01:00:24.719 --> 01:00:27.239
you know, if you want to be informed out like

1013
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:32.719
fascist stuff throughout history, highly recommend all three of those podcasts,

1014
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:36.719
Fascists in History or now. All three of those are good.

1015
01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:40.360
So yeah, that's all I have been doing. And once

1016
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:42.639
I get those holds, I will actually have speed recommendations

1017
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:44.960
because we'll see I actually going to read horrid things again.

1018
01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:50.480
I've been busy with nonfiction. Yeah, so yeah, that brings

1019
01:00:50.519 --> 01:00:52.119
us to the end of the episode. Wow, this was

1020
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:53.800
a long one. I need to get my children to

1021
01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:56.320
bed and I need to eat. So then I thought,

1022
01:00:56.320 --> 01:00:59.199
oh my god, I'm so sorry for keeping you hostage

1023
01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:01.719
for two hours. It's fine. I was ordering door Dash

1024
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:03.000
because I'm like, there's no way I'm gonna want to

1025
01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:05.400
cook after this. I'm sorry, but no no, no, no,

1026
01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:09.559
no same. I didn't cook today either, don't I will never.

1027
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:13.480
I will never betray you like that. Okay, because I

1028
01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:17.639
play don't read the doorbell, it's because it doesn't like

1029
01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:20.559
you want to spend money on stuff. So yeah, right

1030
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:30.079
mine money, just saying I don't know, okay. So yeah,

1031
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:32.719
that brings us to the end of the episode. Welcome

1032
01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:35.440
back with my horrible depressing two crimp case. Part two

1033
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:38.760
of that in the next episode, and who knows what

1034
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:41.320
we'll do for the part normal. We don't know yet.

1035
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:43.519
We don't know because we're recording very last minute, but

1036
01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:46.920
I want to catch up. Yeah, okay, We're We're being

1037
01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:50.639
on top of it. We are trying. We're trying. Yeah,

1038
01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:53.639
we're trying. Over on Patreon, you can hear thirty minutes

1039
01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:56.880
of yapping about my vacation in Seattle as part of

1040
01:01:56.920 --> 01:01:59.079
this episode. But we also did just record a bonus

1041
01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:02.880
episode where we're talking about paintings, hunted paintings. Yeah, redit

1042
01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:08.199
storme yes, today's episode. That's why I searched for it. Yeah,

1043
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:10.960
and also at some point we're gonna record our Sinners

1044
01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:14.480
discussion again with MJ or part two of that. If

1045
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:18.400
you miss MJ. Come over to Patreon. Come over to Patreon.

1046
01:02:18.440 --> 01:02:20.239
You can subscribe for a week and then counsel it.

1047
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:22.039
If you just listen to that episode or whatever else

1048
01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:24.400
you want to listen to and then cancel it. No, biggie. Also,

1049
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:26.760
I finally have sticker ideas for everyone else, and I

1050
01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:30.199
will be sending those out. Did you think of more? No?

1051
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:35.320
I just have to that's fine, Oh all right? And

1052
01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:39.119
everyone else, Yeah, stay a spooky And if you see

1053
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:42.440
a little girl bouncing a ball that doesn't make bouncing sounds,

1054
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:45.320
she's a ghost, all right, Bye bye.

1055
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:46.960
S.

1056
01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:49.760
Book Tells is hosted by Christina and Carmen, produced and

1057
01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:53.360
edited by Christina, researched by Christina Carmen and with the

1058
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:56.039
help of Don Shout out with Don. If you're enjoying

1059
01:02:56.039 --> 01:02:58.519
the podcast considerably, gonna say five star review, we would

1060
01:02:58.559 --> 01:03:00.840
really appreciate it. If you don't want to professional review,

1061
01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:02.960
just don't leave a review. But don't leave anything lower

1062
01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:05.239
than that, please, I'm just kidding. You can reach out

1063
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:08.039
to the podcast at Spookytos at gmail dot com. You

1064
01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:10.360
can go to our website at pookitos dot com and

1065
01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:12.920
fill out the contact form if you want to support

1066
01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:15.840
the podcast. You can join our Patreon where we send

1067
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:19.599
exclusive stickers, have bonus episodes. Eight dollar members get an

1068
01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:22.800
exclusive key chain. It's super cool. I got new ones

1069
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:25.679
and these ones are huge. And if you want to support,

1070
01:03:25.719 --> 01:03:27.679
but you can or don't want to join the Patreon,

1071
01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:30.599
that's fine too. You can also get some merch. You

1072
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:34.280
can find sure Says say a Spooky and old English letters.

1073
01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:37.079
There's a beanie. I love the beanie. There's also a hat.

1074
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:42.079
There's a no Mamas shirt, which is a fan favorite.

1075
01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:44.800
There's a lot of options, crap, TOMPs, sweaters. It's almost

1076
01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:48.239
wetter weather. We're nearing a Spookie season, so yeah, get

1077
01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:50.239
your hoodies. You're gonna need them. If you don't want

1078
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:52.239
to do all that, that's fine too. You can just

1079
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:54.920
listen like you're listening now, and that's the best support

1080
01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:56.679
that you can give us, like I always say in

1081
01:03:56.800 --> 01:03:59.239
our ad break and yeah, if you like history, you

1082
01:03:59.280 --> 01:04:04.440
can follow Estoria's Unknown Mining, Carmen's other podcasts, and you

1083
01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:06.679
can find as Spooky Tells on all of our socials

1084
01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:09.480
at a Spooky Tells All. This is in the show

1085
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:13.639
notes and we appreciate every single listen. Thank you so much.

1086
01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:18.159
Stay a spooky