March 8, 2024

The Hand and the Creepy House with Scary Mystery Surprise

The Hand and the Creepy House with Scary Mystery Surprise

Edwin and Michelle of Scary Mystery Surprise join Espooky Tales today to tell their paranormal experiences, which are espooky! Tales of haunting hands, creepy houses, shadow people and paranormal experiences while recording podcasts. First, they read...

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Edwin and Michelle of Scary Mystery Surprise join Espooky Tales today to tell their paranormal experiences, which are espooky! Tales of haunting hands, creepy houses, shadow people and paranormal experiences while recording podcasts. First, they read a listener story.

Don't forget to check out Cristina over on Scary Mystery Surprise and check out all the other amazing and scary shows on the Scary FM network. Just search Scary FM in your podcast app.

Thank you so much for sending your stories! If you have a spooky story to share, email Espookytales@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at call the Espooky Hot Line (360)836-4486. You can also submit it on Discord!

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their Hi everyone, this is Christina
and today actually let me restart. This

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is a Spooky Tells, the podcast
for all things as Spooky. We're gonna

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hear scary stories and laugh a little
bit. Today. I have some awesome

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guests with me. They are the
host of Scary. Oh my God,

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always say around Scary Mystery Surprise.
That's a scary story mysteries, Okay,

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scary mister scars Okay. I always
want to add stories somewhere in there because

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everything else the story. Yeah,
that's why. That's why Edwin and Michelle.

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I'm so excited to have you guys
here. But yeah, if you

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guys want to tell everyone about the
podcast, I will add if you guys

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like as Spooky Tells, you will
also like Scary Mystery Surprise, I will.

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Well, you know we were naming
it. Edwin wanted it to be

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Scary Mystery Box. Don't tell anyone
that, so I the box. Yeah,

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the box made it, but thank
god it's not our name in the

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box anyway. Scary you know it
is, you don't. It is not

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a boxing podcast, Edwin and I
Oh Scary Mystery Surprise, and it is

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a paranormal comedy podcast where we tell
each other stories, kind of surprising the

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other one of what, you know, just trying to freak the other one

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out a lot of the time.
Yeah, and then you know, there's

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some sound design, there's some laughs. Come along with us, come on

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the journey, you know. And
if you hear any wrestling, that's my

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dog who is becoming impatient and angry. He's like the third host. And

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Scary Mystery Surprise, that's Robert.
If you hear any weird noises, Yeah,

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sometimes we're recording and I just see
like an object flag across the room,

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and I'm always like, Michelle,
did you see that? It's just

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like, yeah, that was Robbie. He threw definitely Robert, and he's

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you know, mad about something.
So he's just an angry little chihuahah boy

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chih wah wah pug, Chihuahua pug. Yeah, he's a chug, great

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American chug. I don't think i've
seen that Chihuahwa pug. Oh he's very

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handsome. He probably won't let me
pick him up. No, he's chewing

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on the Facebook toy right now.
So I'm just doing Scary Mystery Surprise.

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It came more as like an idea
to try to because all the other shows

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were just narrative and we're coming up
like the shows in Scary f like in

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the in the network. So we're
like, I wanted something else. So

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Michelle and I met at a bar
literally like we were at a podcast move.

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We're just like we should come up
with the show, and she didn't

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believe we were going to make a
show. She was like, yeah,

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okay, it's never gonna I love
this. Wow, my face just went

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what do you mean you were?
You were so offended. And do you

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know how many people just say they
want to do a project and like never

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do a project, like I mean, I mean guilty. Yeah, yeah,

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like especially because I you know,
I live in Los Angeles. You

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know how many people have been like, yeah, let's do something and then

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you never see them again. And
you were you were never going to see

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you again because they like bailed,
like that night outside I'm going to say,

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yeah, and I left, no
exchange of phone numbers, no contact

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cars. It was just like no. And then I found you. Luckily,

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I found you the next day at
the other bar like podcast Emily Shoes

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or whatever, and like he was
city there and I was just like hey,

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and then we just chatted and I
told him some ghost stories and then

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he's like who you can you tell
me the story of my poo poo coos

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And I was like yeah, sure, and then we finally exchanged details and

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then and then that's how the legend
was born. That's how Scary Mystery Surprise

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story. So I did get it. Yeah, it is, it is.

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This is great. I did not
know. That's how this started.

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After that's what we started the podcast, right like we're like, oh yeah,

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we were like talking about it and
then it was like I think,

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yeah, Like it had to have
been a couple months after that where it

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was like, oh, yeah,
let's do something and then we started Scary

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Mysteries. Yeah. It's been cool, it's been cool. It's great.

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It's a lot of fun. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. But

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yeah, excited to be here,
by the way, Christina, super super

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excited. Yeah, super excited to
be here. Yes, oh yeah,

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I'm very excited to have both of
you here. I don't think i've even

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said we on the podcast, just
on Instagram, but we're part of Scary

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FM now it's Pooky Tells. Whoops, Yeah we are, and so honestly,

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just a line of great, great
podcasts. So very exciting, very

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exciting to be part of it.
Okay, so I have a listener story.

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We're gonna hear it. And if
you have a story that you want

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to send into the podcast, you
can email us Pooky Dos at gmail dot

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com. You can call our our
Spooky hotline. I don't know the number,

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but it's in the show notes.
It's always there. I will never

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memorize it. I'm so sorry.
You can also attach a voice note to

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an email. That's always super fun. I love hearing people tell their own

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stories. But this person sent it
via email, so we're just we're gonna

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read it. Hi, guys,
my name is Edith, and I'm starting

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this off by saying how much I
love your podcast. Thank you. It's

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been so fun listening to you,
adding it to my rotation of scary pods,

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specifically because you touch on Latin American
folklore, which I was told really

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missing in my life. Ps I
have in a spooky wreck National Park After

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Dark podcast for anyone who likes the
outdoors. I do like the podcast.

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Have you guys listened? Yeah?
I have. Yeah, it's so good.

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Yeah I'm missing out. But that
sounds ra hard. Yeah it's good.

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Yeah it's good. Yeah, okay, okay, So continuing this,

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my story begins in twenty seventeen,
after a breakup and having to move in

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with my grandparents into a rented house
that I've never lived in before. It's

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a beautiful home with lots of natural
light, a loft above the living room

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and the bathroom under the loft.
I loft. This sounds nice. Yeah,

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it sounds great. Wow. Well
unless it's like like a bunk bed

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loft. Oh, you know,
like like I was thinking, like in

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TV shows when they have like these
crazy apartments, I'm like, how do

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you live here? How do you
afford this? Girl? And yeah,

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yeah, yeah, okay. Let's
see. I was having a hard time

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with my breakup that I absolutely would
not leave the house. Sunday mornings,

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my family would leave to church,
leaving me completely alone. It started with

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me lying in the living room lane
in the living room lane in the living

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room. Which one is it?
I don't know, am I that's no

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your history, never your history,
your history. I'm the history. I'm

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the history nerd, not the not
the so no one. We don't have

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a grammar person right now. We
don't know we have the grammar person.

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Scary FM has to get on this
and get a grammar person. We need

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one to at a spooky tails in
need. We've gotten one star reviews because

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we can't read. Come on,
you guys, like you've never mispronounced something

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like if I do that all the
time, Like, yeah, there's some

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words that you learn. Read's so
touchy. Yeah, I'm like, please,

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it's just a word. Calm down, I get it. I mean

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people hate jazz on tell me a
ghost story? They hate? Hey,

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they that's my I love it,
thank you good. Yeah that's such a

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I don't know a vibe. I
love it. But I thought and you

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know it? Does you know Cascade
Cool Cascade aka Edwin is my saxophone player?

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What no way? Oh wow,
wow, secret. These secrets are

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just getting spilled today. You're getting
all the scary mysteries secret and uh,

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tell me a ghost story secrets,
all that all that I couldn't hold myself

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back like she wanted a regular song
and it came out sexy. I'm like,

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I can't do it any other way. Amazing. Oh wow, she

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actually wanted like modern jazz or something
just too rugged and sexy. And there

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were so many people that were like, no offense, but I don't want

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a sexicos story. I yeah,
that's what I said. That's what I

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said. Oh that's amazing. Okay, So back to the loft. Where

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was I? Okay? It started
with me laying in the living room couch,

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just binge watching TV shows. I
suddenly felt my heart raised and a

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strong sensation of someone looking at me. I look up towards the loft,

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look down at the bathroom, and
thankfully no one was there. This happened

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every time I was alone while I
sat in the same place. I never

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said anything because my grandparents would honestly
tell me I was crazy or I had

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something on my conscientia, my conscience
conscious. Again, I can't read or

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speak English, so I finally decided
to tell my mom. Since she isn't

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particularly religious or like me, loves
all things as spooky, she ends up

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telling me, well, don't you
know what happened here? Oh, that's

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never a good thing to hear.
No, very similar roomed. Yeah,

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I froze and asked reluctantly what happened? She tells me The lady who lives

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here before us was the wife of
the owner. They split up, but

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he let her live in the house. She ended up killing herself in the

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bathtub. No, that's how the
house was available for rent. I hope

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they got a good deal. Then, I hope it was clean. Oh.

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My mom also revids me of how
my youngest brother hated being in the

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living room alone. He would literally
cry about it. We suspect my brother

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has some sort of gifted abilities with
the paranormal, but that's the story for

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another time. I have since gotten
over the relationship. Good good, Oh

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good. I was like I was
a little worried about her, Like,

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just laying there and not going out
of the house is pretty rough. Yeah,

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And with that, I haven't had
any more feelings of being watched.

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Our conclusion is we believe whatever is
there feels when someone is depressed suicidal,

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and it happens to start or and
it somehow starts to show its presence to

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them. Sincerely, the girl who
should move out before she gets depressed again.

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Oh my god, what a way
to sign off. I mean,

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also, she's not wrong. It
sounds like something feeds off of off of

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It might not even be that woman, It just sounds like something feeds off

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of uh, really depressed strong emotions. Yeah, and I mean a lot

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of things they say pray on when
you're depressed. So yeah, and I've

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heard of even families, like example, divorce being a common thing because of

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something like that. That's draining your
energy. Financial problem, people getting sick,

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pets dying ah man, places really
do. Yeah. Well that and

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like addicts too, Like there's like
a lot of the things like sometimes they've

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attracted something kind of something, some
bad energy man that's come along some Yeah,

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that stuff is a good So moral
of the story is she should get

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get out of there. You should
move out. It sounds like a nice

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house because that's a loft, but
not so much when you learn about everything

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else. So yeah, yeah,
move out, move out, move out.

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Yeah. We've we've voted here,
get out. We've voted. It's

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our opinion that you, as a
counsel of paranormal experts, we have voted,

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and we have come to the conclusion
that you need to move out either

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that or I don't know if you
can fix that, because it sounds like

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it's a It doesn't sound like a
person. It doesn't sound like it was

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a person. Sounds like it's energy's
evil. Yeah, very dark and sinister.

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Can you cleanse that away? I
don't know. I don't know.

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Yeah, I've always wondered tho,
why people don't move out when they obviously

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have, you know, they're living
in a haunted house. And then I

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started figuring out how just difficult it
is to move out for some people too,

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or like oh financially or just my
house was haunted. I'd make friends

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with the ghost because I'm an I
caat move well. I stayed in my

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old apartment that was you know,
it was only eight hundred bucks a month,

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so how was I Oh, why
would you ever? Yeah, I

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mean, granted it had no windows
in one of the rooms. It was

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just screens. But I was an
artist at the time. I didn't have

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an oven, so like, you
know, that was my art studio.

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And then this is my ghost story, is that every night when I'd go

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to bed, because there was like
a it was like a one bedroom and

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that was like more my living area. And I'd go in there and I'd

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feel something crawl up my bed on
the bed and then hold my hand.

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Oh no, And that happened a
lot when I first moved in there,

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and people thought this house was so
fucking cool. I'm sorry, I didn't

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know if we could swear or not. You can bleep that. Yes,

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people thought. People thought that house
was so cool they'd do photo shoots over

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there. It had a pool,
it had a water slide. It looked

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like Boogie Nights. There was a
slide. Yeah, yeah, I cool.

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It sounds cool, except you know, there were rats, I didn't

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have windows, and there was a
ghost that would hold my hand, Like

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how many I take it back?
Yeah, like like it was cool for

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everyone who just came over to visit, not anyone for everyone else. Yeah,

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And so like basically what I ended
up doing is that I had to,

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Like I lived there for five years, so I'd stage every or like

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Paula Santo every week and it stopped. It was just crazy. Yeah yeah,

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But later I found out so like
that house like red like the seventies,

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like it, I lived like this
lady was that I lived with.

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I lived in her pool house.
I lived with this ninety six year old

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lady who was like an actress.
She's like a background actress or she was.

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I don't know if she's still alive, but yeah, you can find

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her, Carolyn Black. You can
find her in the background of Brooklyn ninety

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nine or all sorts of big TV
shows. She was in the background of

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as a perfect cute old lady.
But she was a bitch. No nowhere,

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Okay, did it though? Did
it though? But anyway, you

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know, so clearly she'd had the
house redone in the seventies. Everything was

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like, you know, my house
has clearly been like someone her husband had

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clearly built it, like it was
all homemade. But like recently I saw

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that it was the house like it
started to get redone. So, like

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I live like three blocks away from
it. So I was on a walk

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and I saw that it's starting to
get redone, and I was like oh,

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And I went on Zillow and I
found out that like the house was

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built in eighteen ninety five. What
wow, isn't that crazy? That is

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old? Yeah? Yeah, And
that like totally blew my mind. And

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I was like, oh, that
makes sense. Why there was something there

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like that it was a little Victorian
child. Yeah, someone was what kind

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of hand was it? You know, it's weird. I got farmer from

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it. I don't know why I
got farmer, but that's like what I

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like an adult farm. Yeah,
like I got farmer from it. So

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I don't know what. Yeah I
got I had to go to the doctor

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because I got farmer. Okay,
it gave me farmer. Yeah, a

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big rash. So like it was
like a rough like a like a yeah,

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there's stuff about it that was just
and like, you know, because

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I didn't that place didn't have any
temperature control because obviously because one room didn't

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have any windows, and then the
other room just had those classic like the

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sheets of glass, you know that
kind of tilt in and out like strips

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glass strip and so like during the
summer, my windows were always open,

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and it just always kind of felt
like something was outside peking in. Yeah,

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it just wasn't It wasn't good.
And finally, like I ended up

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moving my bed to where there was
no like the end of the bedroom that

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had no windows, so I didn't
even have to think about it anymore,

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and then always had curtains over the
the other windows so yeah, it's needless

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to say. When I moved into
my current apartment that I live in now,

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I cried because I was so happy
to be in a house that had

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windows and no farmer ghosts, no
farmer ghosts, no rats. It was

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it was just such a relief man, such a relief to get out of

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there, although it was heartbreaking to
leave an eight hundred dollars rent. Oh

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yeah, that's that's the I'd be
rich now if I was still living in

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that place, you know, like
i'd be But I don't think I could

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have made the pandemic there, Like, I don't think I could have done

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it? No, no, nope. What if what if the landlord,

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for example, you're still living there
and then she dies? What happened?

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That was my biggest That was my
biggest fears. I was going to find

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her dead somewhere because she was like
that was that was like, is this

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our karmic fate? Is that I
have to find Carol Black somewhere and you're

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dead? Because she'd always been Yeah, she did the water slide and that

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was it. She Uh, she
would stand out, you know, no

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windows, stand outside my door and
be like my shew, my schell sell

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and I'd be like, what do
you want and she'd be like, can

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you help me put my necklace on? Like things like that. Was just

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like just like weird things like that
all the time. But if you just

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start hearing that now in the middle
of the night, wouldn't even doubt it.

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Wouldn't even doubt it. Honestly,
I would just be like, get

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out of here, Get out of
here, old woman. She would have

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died. You would have lived rent
free. Well, she had a son

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that, like every everyone had this
fantasy that I was going to inherit the

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house right, Like a lot of
my friends had this fantasy that that was

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going to happen. But she had
descendants that she had this weird son named

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Ron that go up to her with
the piece of paper and sake. No,

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she had unless she could have.
I mean, it's like, you

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know, that was where her old
ladyness showed. And I was like,

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oh, this is how people like
elder abuse. I get it. It's

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like how I steal your house.
Wow, I steal your house. If

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I had been a bad person,
I was like, oh, this is

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the moment. But I was like, no, I don't want to deal

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with this but yeah, she had
like an eighty year old son named Ron

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or whatever, so it's eighty year
old. Yeah, he was like,

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no, maybe like seventy five and
she's like ninety six and he I don't

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know, he seemed to eighty but
like it just I don't know. He

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was around too much, around too
much and rich and so he was entitled.

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So I was never going to get
that house. Wow, he knew

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what he was doing. Cool,
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for doing that. Thinking about like
places where I used to live, I

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actually lived in a bunch of different
places, like when I was in college

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up in Norocal then I remember for
internships all around you know, from Florida,

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Colorado, like Pomona, like all
these areas in California. But there

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was one really creepy house in San
Jose really creeped me out because it was

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they have old houses. Have you
ever been San Jose, California? I

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have, Yeah, you know there
are these there's like a modern area more

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downtown. But like in downtown there's
also like old old houses like they're just

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you know, colonial looking, Victorian
looking, I don't know what you call

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them, but like there're these they're
breaking down. They have the panels like

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in the front, like paints chipping, like they're just like I ended up

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living in one of those, and
I always I was fascinated by I loved

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it because of just how it had
the keyhole, like the actual keyhole.

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Yeah, yeah, you know,
it's pretty cool. Honestly, that's pretty

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cool. I don't know about a
keyhole, but it was. It smelled

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moldy. It was great. It
had the shower were like I don't know

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if that's the end now the whole
woll maybe they just the old wood smell

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I'm in, you know. The
shower were like it wraps around the tub

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like the curtain. It was.
That's kind of cute. So one time

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there was this well actually how I
met the roommate that I had there was

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through just a crazelist at when you
went in to show me, like I

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was like, wow, this place
is cool. You're walking it's creaking,

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like it's just like I had all
this like wow, this this place is

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probably haunted super cool, like wow, and he was a little weird.

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He was an artist, no offense, Michelle. There's a varying degrees personalities

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in the arts. So he was
a lot into into making murals and stuff

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like that. He knew a lot
of the homeless population, like everybody that

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was there, he knew them by
name, and he was very into the

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area. And when he showed me
around, he was like, by the

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way, like I'm always super into
you know, cleanliness, Like I want

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everything super clean, spotless all the
time. It's what I do, It's

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how I live. And I was
like, okay, cool, But it

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turns out he was like hyper obsessive
over it. But anyway, I yeah,

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I started kind of. One time. It's actually one time when I

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noticed that I was more like,
I don't know about this guy. Was

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when I washed the dishes and I
left an oat on the sink, like

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it was just kind of left,
it just stayed there. He knocked on

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my door and he was like,
it was only us two, and he

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was like, there was an oat
on this sink. Did he throw the

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oat at you? Like? Did
he bring it? Wasn't like you this,

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I think it's yours. It was
like I had a dream that there

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were roaches roaming around, like crawling
around the kitchen, like ants everywhere.

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He's like, I really need you
to be careful with this. I was

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like, okay, sorry about that, man, Okay cool. I closed

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the door, and I think that's
when I started getting kind of nervous of

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like I didn't want to be around
with this guy because I knew how he

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could get. He was angry and
he was big, and I was like,

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okay, so I started kind of
avoiding him. One night, I'm

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in my room and by the way, like to kind of keep the mood

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going, I used to have a
candle because it was an old house,

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candles hello and yeah. I used
to do that. It was cool.

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And one time I heard you can
have candles in normal houses too. You

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don't have to have them. It's
dinner every night with candles. I do.

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It's this isn't that I want to
start doing that. I think it's

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nice. I think this is hired
me. Yeah, like I it's a

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nice treat. It sets the mood. You're like, oh, the day

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is really over. It's nice.
I like this. Yeah, I just

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imagined her though. When you said
it with her. Was it not realistics?

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But yeah, I was on a
big Kalipino popper. It was my

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fixation food and uh you know,
luckily that's past I think with jal Gotta

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get your jalapeno poppers. Oh my
god. Yeah, I'm obsessed. I

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mean that's like girl dinner, Like
girl dinner to the max is just eating

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jalapeno poppers, but like setting the
obviiance. Extreme wine. Yeah, perfect

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night, perfect night jazz really really
yeah, some jazz, that's it.

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Some sexy jazz. Yeah, that's
all you need. Perfect night. Anyway,

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so I was in the room.
The candle is on, and I'm

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trying to read, but it's hard
to read by candle. I don't know

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how people used to do it by
candlelight. Oh my god. Yeah.

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But anyway, I was really in
my ed grave and pole face. I

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think everything that house just really brought
it out. But anyway, it was

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all quiet, right, and all
of a sudden, I hear him coming

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up the stairs and there by the
way, when you open the front door,

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you can only go upstairs, like
it was like they divided the house

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that way. So I hear him
like he's squeak squeak, squeak, He's

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coming up. And then I remembered
that I left a bowl out on by

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the stone. I remember writing that
instant and I was thinking, dang it

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because I had just had in a
couple like a noodle what's it called that,

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you know, noodle packaging romen like
a raben, yeah, ramen thing.

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I remember I had left it there. I was like, shoot,

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okay, and then I hear him
walking around. Then I see him kind

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of go up to the because you
can see the like on the other side

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of the hallway, there was like
there was this large window and it was

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always kind of lit purply. It
was like this really creepy house. It

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was like that moonlight kind of light. Anyway, I could see him kind

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of coming up to the door,
and then I think he was like kind

387
00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:22.880
of listening to see if I was
awake or if I was in there so

388
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.400
he could knock. And then I
see him kind of walk away. I

389
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:32.000
was like, okay, good save
right. Then I hear a door shut.

390
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:33.279
That's it, right, So I'm
like, okay, thank god.

391
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.720
Like he went to his room,
So I turn off the candle, go

392
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:40.799
around, go to the kitchen,
look at the bowl. I'm like,

393
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:44.480
shoot, okay, I gotta clean
it. Clean it said everything or whatever

394
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.160
it is. It's hard for me. It was really hard to live that

395
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:48.720
way because it was like, why
can't I leave something out for like a

396
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:52.279
little bit. I'm not gonna he
would have helped me, because yeah,

397
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:59.000
I leave things everywhere. Yeah,
yeah, it's terrible. And so I'm

398
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:03.640
watching the noodle thing like the you
know where I had the ramen. Everything's

399
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.160
you know, dry up on the
counter now. And as I'm walking back

400
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.079
to the room, I hear the
door open and it's this guy. It's

401
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:15.160
a roommate and he's coming up the
stairs and I kind of I think to

402
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:21.640
myself like who wait, like who
was it? Then? Right? And

403
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:25.400
I wait for him like he's coming
up and I'm like, hey, his

404
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:30.000
name is Sean. I'm like hey
Sean, like I thought you were here.

405
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:32.480
He's like no, man, Like
I just I just got back out

406
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:36.680
to going whatever are the lights off? Like this's always his question. And

407
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:41.079
I was like, someone just went
in your room and he was like what

408
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.720
And then he instead of him being
like no, I just got here,

409
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:48.200
he went to his room and opened
the door and there was no one there.

410
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.000
He's like, what are you talking
about? Like who was because there

411
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:55.200
was he used to have this friendless
this girl friend, a girl best friend

412
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:57.839
that used to come by, so
he thought, you know, she came

413
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.640
in here, but no, there
was a there. And then he's like,

414
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.440
well, who was it? What
did you sound like? Was it

415
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.279
downstairs? Because there's the tenants that
live downstairs. I was like, no,

416
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:08.519
like somebody came up here, but
I don't know. It's like,

417
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.559
it's not the first time, and
that I when I used to live here

418
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:14.799
by myself, it's not the first
time. Say okay, I kind of

419
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.640
forgot about it. A couple of
weeks later, I am and I'm in

420
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:21.279
the room, same setting, I'm
in the with the candle or whatever,

421
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:27.519
same creepy alan Poe. But that
I was kind of depressed, honestly.

422
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:30.559
Then you're okay, well that fits
too. Then yeah, and then you're

423
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:37.720
writing with a quill and you know, yeah, it's perfect, perfect beyond

424
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:41.240
Yes, this is I hated college. It was like a whole thing.

425
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:45.559
I had a whole like a big
old pizza, like I eaten two slices

426
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:47.759
and it was on the floor.
Believe it or not. I'm embarrassed to

427
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:52.920
say it, but that's how it
was. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

428
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.799
but the kind of was on and
I'm kind of falling asleep, but I

429
00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:00.559
had you et you know that there's
two slices all super quickly, and I

430
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:01.720
was kind of like, you know, kind of on the bed, just

431
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:05.880
kind of I'm thinking, I don't
know what I'm doing. I'm just like

432
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:08.519
it's probably nine or it's probably like
ten or eleven at night actually, and

433
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:13.200
I'm thinking if I fall asleep,
it's good because it's about that time.

434
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:15.519
And as I'm kind of dozing off, I hear a voice and this is

435
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:20.720
I swear. I'm not like gasleak
might have been the only explanation, right,

436
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:22.319
but like this is why I'm saying
is you're gonna get it in a

437
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:28.240
bit. But like I start hearing
a voice that tells me turn the candle

438
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:31.160
off. Turn the candle off,
right, Like it's just like this windy

439
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:36.279
like like turn the candle off,
like turn the candle off. And it's

440
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:37.799
just telling me that, like turn
it off or not. And I'm kind

441
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:42.279
of awake looking at the candle like
the flame is kind of like you know,

442
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.559
dancing, it's doing its thing.
My window shut, so it's usually

443
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:46.359
like a steady flame. By this
time, it's kind of doing a thing.

444
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:50.400
Yeah, And I'm like this is
weird, and I'm like, am

445
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:52.039
I awake? It's like turn the
candle off? So I like kind of

446
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.240
sit up and I'm like, I
definitely heard that I turned the candle off.

447
00:32:55.279 --> 00:33:00.039
I just kind of floorid off,
goes completely dark, and then I

448
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:07.000
starts smelling gas in the house.
I uh, yeah, I opened the

449
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:08.960
door. It gets a little bit
stronger. I go to the kitchen and

450
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:13.799
the stovetop, but the thing was
on the burner was onble without the flame.

451
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:17.240
Wow, And I'm thinking what just
happened? Like at the moment,

452
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:20.400
I'm like I got to open the
doors, right, So I opened the

453
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:24.000
window, go downstairs, open that
door, and I'm just kind of like

454
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:27.160
what am I supposed to do?
I stay out on the porch like I'm

455
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.839
sitting there. It's it's kind of
late. I have no shoes on.

456
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:36.519
And then I start thinking, like
that voice telling me to turn the candle

457
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:43.519
off might have been for my safety. And you know when gasps, you,

458
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:47.440
yeah, it might not matter.
He might not. It might have

459
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:52.599
just been someone saving the house,
but yeah, it was. It stuck

460
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:54.720
with me. That story for me, I was like something happens, something

461
00:33:54.720 --> 00:34:00.319
went on there. Surprisingly though after
that, like the next day, I

462
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.240
remember the next day, I actually
went out for a walk, Like I

463
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:07.359
remember waking up att early thinking like, okay, I gotta do something here.

464
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:09.760
I eventually moved out, and actually
I got in a fight with the

465
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:15.000
with the roommate because he didn't want
to give me back my deposit. It

466
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:16.440
was just four hundred bucks, but
still I was like I needed it,

467
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:20.280
you know, back then. Yeah, And then I remember I just left.

468
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.639
I went back. I left Tanjose, I dropped out of school.

469
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:23.760
I just left. I was like, I'm gonna try something else, and

470
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:27.280
I went back to La. But
that story, for me, I was

471
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:30.199
like maybe not all ghosts are bad, and maybe not all ghosts or evil.

472
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:37.440
But really got me think about it
a lot, Like that's like a

473
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:44.000
wholesome story. That ghost like saved
your life. It wasn't like weird,

474
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:46.760
you know, most most ghosts are
a little weird. I think in order

475
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:50.639
to become a ghost, you've you
got to be a little weird, a

476
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:54.519
little weird. But like that ghost
was like, h is gonna bloat up

477
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.360
all I don't want to die either, Like it's like, no, where

478
00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:07.079
am I going to live if the
house flows up? Yeah? Yeah,

479
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:14.800
that is exactly what it sounded like. It made that sense, wake up,

480
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:20.039
wake up, like, And I've
had other experiences in houses where like

481
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:22.039
it's it's obviously like a creepy thing. Like when I was a kid,

482
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:25.800
I saw a shadow when I first
moved. I told the story with you,

483
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:30.119
Michelle, Oh yeah, tell me
a ghost story. Yeah, I

484
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:34.679
saw in the in the bathroom,
I saw this floating thing, like a

485
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.400
floating jacket, blue dark thing,
and I ran away. I just it

486
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:42.199
didn't feel right and I ran.
I just ran through the house. Yeah.

487
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:45.719
But yeah, very creepy stuff.
I mean you've described your childhood home

488
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:50.519
before and it's like you were like, oh, you know, I don't

489
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:52.960
want it to be haunted. But
then you're like, oh, I see

490
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:59.760
I see spiders crawling wall or whatever. Wow. It's also ironic because I

491
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:00.719
want to live in a haunted house
like I want, like, but I

492
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:06.360
want the stereotypical like all abandoned house
like I want that. Yeah, some

493
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:12.559
like fancy apartment that's haunted like that
sucks. Yeah, yeah, it's not

494
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.280
the vibe that I'm looking for.
Yeah, I mean it's almost like you

495
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:19.760
want the haunted house, but without
it actually being haunted, you know,

496
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:25.480
like you know, like the aesthetic, but not the the baggage that comes

497
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:29.559
with it. I guess. I
mean, I don't want it to just

498
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:34.519
like Dizzeyland, where it's like haunted
mansion that was created to look but apparently

499
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:38.320
the haunted mansion is very haunted.
Yeah. I caught a picture there once,

500
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:42.800
a light of a light beam.
Yeah, it was like, yeah,

501
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:49.880
I am somewhere my old phone pictures
dump human remains there all the time,

502
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:53.519
like ashes. Yeah, I guess
Disney has like a code now,

503
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:58.519
like they hit like a like a
code to go over the walkies when they've

504
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:07.079
busted somebody for dumping human remains.
Because like people, you know, have

505
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:08.840
a good time at Disneyland. I
could see a lot of people wanting their

506
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:17.079
ashes scattered. Yeah, Disneyland,
which would be weird as an employee to

507
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:23.760
deal with the brown at the end
of the night time not again, vacuum.

508
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:31.719
It's just for employees and they go
through so much. And I mean

509
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:37.239
cast members or whatever they're actually called
cast members, I guess, sorry cast

510
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:44.400
members. Yeah, you know,
get it right. Yeah, I've seen,

511
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:46.480
like I've actually heard a lot of
stories of haunted Disneyland. I don't

512
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:50.559
know if you're having stuff like that, Christina, but like they're around the

513
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:53.920
podcast a little paranormal circuit, Like
if you listen to this, I'm pretty

514
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:58.320
sure someone asked me to talk about
Disneyland on TikTok and I was like,

515
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:00.280
I guess, And of course,
I mean there are a bunch of stories.

516
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:04.280
I've never seen anything there because I
never see anything anywhere. I'm like,

517
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:07.519
if somewhere is haunted and I set
foot there, I'm not going to

518
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:13.199
see anything. You've never seen any
ghost apparition or anything nothing. My family

519
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:17.840
is full of like ghost stories.
But me and my twin uh the unofficial

520
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:22.800
official guest co hosts of a Speakito's
Coming. Yeah, both of us have

521
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:24.599
not seen anything. We had a
house we still live in Oakland, and

522
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:29.280
there was a house that house.
Everyone has a ghost story from it.

523
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.519
There's one room that my brother refused. It was supposed to be his room.

524
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:35.000
He refused to go in that room
because he would say there was like

525
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:38.559
a man in there. Oh boy. And I literally had no idea.

526
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:43.480
Everyone told us their stories like now
as we're adults, and I'm like,

527
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:47.000
really, that house people said,
and when they were showering, they would

528
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:52.960
like feel like a hand, an
extra hand, like when they're showering,

529
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:58.239
Yeah, an extra hand, like
the grudge, which like that was so

530
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.679
terrifying to me. But yeah,
I I never saw anything. Another house

531
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:04.880
we lived in, and it was
always my brother and my mom. It's

532
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:08.800
always them too, But another house
we lived in in Modesto, my brother

533
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:14.079
would say that he would see a
shadow figure or like a man both.

534
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:16.400
Sometimes it was like a shadow person. Sometimes it was a straight like apparition

535
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:20.800
of a man in his room and
our rooms were across from each other,

536
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:23.800
and like, I never I never
saw a thing at all. Like I'm

537
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:29.800
like, I don't know, I
don't know, because you're gonna snitch on

538
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:35.039
them on your podcast that they're gonna
be like yamparently they knew, they knew.

539
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:37.519
Yeah, the the only thing that
ever ever happened to me that like

540
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:42.360
resembles even like a ghost story.
Like my brother obviously he would always say

541
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.199
he saw shadow people. And we
were like in middle school and we were

542
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:47.719
sitting in my dad's trailer because he
has a he has a trailer behind his

543
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:52.039
shop and that's where he sleeps sometimes, and so we would hang out there

544
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.880
and we were sitting around like this
little table and he was like, oh,

545
00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:58.880
they're behind you, and I was
like, what are you talking about?

546
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:00.840
And my brother I was like,
they're they they are behind you.

547
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.320
I was like, oh are they? Are they behind me? And I

548
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.920
was like fake punching where he said
they were. And then something pulled my

549
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:12.719
chair, Like my chair pulled out
from underneath me. I wasn't leaning back

550
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:15.719
or anything like, there was no
reason for the chair to fall like that.

551
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:19.760
And then I fell on my ass. And then he's like, see

552
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.280
didn't like it when you make fun
of them. And I was like what

553
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.119
the fuck? And then I just
like ran to my dad's office and I

554
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:30.039
was like, but he's like stopping
a stopping a baby. He was like,

555
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:32.000
there's no reason to be scared.
And I was like, they pulled

556
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.480
my chair, what do you mean. He's like, you should be scared

557
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:37.800
of people that are live, like
stop, and I was like, oh,

558
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.599
I just want to hug. I
just want I just want support.

559
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:46.559
Yeah, yeah, just give me
comfort, Just give me comfort. What's

560
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:51.519
the matter with you? And he's
like no, be scared of that person

561
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:52.960
in the corner over there, Like
you don't need to be scared of this

562
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:57.800
ghost. And like it pulled my
chair. Yeah, it literally got physical.

563
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:02.679
That's pretty yeah, And yeah that's
it. Luckily nothing else And I

564
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:06.159
kind of blocked that out of my
memory for a long time. That's pretty

565
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:08.440
good, though. That's a pretty
like that's a physical interaction, you know,

566
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:12.960
Like that's yeah, yeah, And
I'm on my twins side, my

567
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:16.679
brother's side, like there's no there's
no denying it for sure. Nothing to

568
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:22.480
blame except I guess me for making
some of them. But yeah, that's

569
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:24.280
the only thing, you know.
A couple of days ago, Michelle got

570
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:29.599
to see me freak out here when
we were recording in this place. I'm

571
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:31.760
staying at an airbnb right now.
I've stayed here before, like in not

572
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:35.800
in this apartment, but like in
other ones in the building, but this

573
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:38.079
one was always empty, and I
always wondered, like why didn't they just

574
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:40.519
make it into another AIRBMB But it
was empty for a while. And now

575
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:45.119
I finally get to, you know, be here lately, like actually a

576
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:49.360
couple of weeks after I first because
I've been here for like a month almost,

577
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:52.880
but I would say like maybe ten
days after, like we had just

578
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:57.199
gotten in here. I remember I
started seeing like hearing like we're taps like

579
00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.360
down because it's a two floor type
of thing, taps in the kitchen.

580
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:05.079
And when one time we were recording, I have a TV in front of

581
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:07.480
me, but it's off, you
know how it kind of has that reflection

582
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.239
that like you can kind of see
I can see the staircase, and a

583
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:14.559
couple of times it's happened where like
I see somebody coming down and the group

584
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:16.559
coming kind of going back up one
time, and I think it happened when

585
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:23.840
I was recording with you, Michelle, I kind of look yeah, and

586
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:29.320
just the other day like just what
was it two days? I'day, yeah,

587
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:32.159
we recorded on Wednesday, a few
days ago. I was telling her

588
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:36.719
like I felt this push on my
chair like I'm not using that rolling chair

589
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:42.280
anymore, and noticed, yeah,
I felt somebody just because it has a

590
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.599
net like it has that net backing, like that cloth backing. I just

591
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:50.239
felt like and I was like immediately, like I think we were recording at

592
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.800
the time. I was just like
and I was like I was like hold

593
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.119
on, like, oh my god, Like I just felt and I turned

594
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:59.960
around. There's nobody there. I
looked down immediately at the because I have

595
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:04.440
a like a a what do you
call those extension cords with like different power

596
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.960
strip. It was off right,
and I was like, no way,

597
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:14.639
because the thing something that had been
happening is that my computer has been unplugged.

598
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:17.760
I always leave everything plugged in.
Things had been like the power strip

599
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:22.639
has been turned off, unplugged from
the power strip several times so much that

600
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:27.119
that morning I was like, Okay, everything's plugged in, everything's on.

601
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.960
I'm gonna make a note of this
like it's it's on. And right after

602
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.559
that happened, immediately looked down to
see what happened, and the thing was

603
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:36.760
off, and I was like,
oh my god, and it was I

604
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:37.960
had been checking the whole time.
There's no I can kick it off.

605
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:42.320
There's it just did nothing. And
then my internet started kind of going a

606
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:45.920
little weird, Like during the recording, we're like your internet, Michelle's like,

607
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:50.039
your Internet's kind of fuzzy, like
something's happening, and I'm like,

608
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:52.519
I don't know what's going on.
So I think, like if I had

609
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:55.760
to be a skeptic and be you
know, kind of have an actual explanation.

610
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:58.679
I would say it was like a
cert like a power search, like

611
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:02.159
something happened and it pops the thing, or it could be this other thing

612
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:07.519
where it's like something's here in the
back of its hand on the back of

613
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:13.239
your chair, leaned forward and unplugged
everything. Just excuse me, pardon me.

614
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:20.280
Yeah, but hadn't you just said
something about going dark or something like

615
00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:24.840
that? What were you talking about? You said something about I don't know,

616
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:29.880
you said something that felt like it
might have triggered the ghosts to like

617
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:32.519
turn stuff off. Oh you want
everything unplugged? Sure, yeah, like

618
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:38.800
there was something. Yeah, you
said something and that reminded me, what

619
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:44.280
what did you What did you just
said? It was something like, oh,

620
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:49.320
for good but yeah, I don't
remember. I don't know, but

621
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:55.000
it was something like it's extra creepy. Yeah. Yeah, times stuff has

622
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:59.519
happened, man, Like, I
mean, we're all podcasters here, Like,

623
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.280
I don't know if anything's happened to
you because of podcasting or research stuff,

624
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:07.360
Michelle, But I know that for
when I'm recording true scary story,

625
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:12.480
like there's a there's been a couple
of things that I now know and I'm

626
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.000
way more cautious now when it comes
to talking about demons and things like that.

627
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:20.239
Yeah, yeah, should And I
didn't want to come off the ones.

628
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:22.559
I didn't want to come off as
like one of those you know,

629
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:27.639
like two out there, Oh you're
trying to just down the cassal, you

630
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:30.599
know, thing like. Yeah.
The only thing that I've had that's specifically

631
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:35.760
related to the podcast is when I
was shopping for Haunted dolls for you and

632
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:38.840
I'll do it, and I uh, I was trying to get that clown

633
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:44.519
doll and I got scooped on eBay
because someone else bought it before I could

634
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:49.039
buy it. But I was on
like in the section and then Robert is

635
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:51.960
sitting on the couch next to me
and he looks so and my kitchen's just

636
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:55.039
like right here, like it's just
like a you know, open concept plan

637
00:45:55.159 --> 00:46:00.159
or whatever. But Robbie's looking in
the corner of the kitchen shaking and just

638
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:05.000
like staring, and he never does
that, like he never ever does that.

639
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:09.719
And it was while I was looking
at Haunted dolls and especially this haunted

640
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:14.159
clowns all that I was very like, we have to get this one.

641
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.519
And I had to like get up
and I was like, get out of

642
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:22.639
here, don't mess with my dog. Just like I just you know,

643
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:28.400
you yell at things and that generally
gets rid of him. And then I

644
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:32.280
did some saging or polisanto or something. I did that, but I just,

645
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:38.480
yeah, yeah, sound works pretty
well if it's a human, like

646
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:43.440
I think, if it's as if
it's been human at any point, you

647
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:47.119
can use sound. You can play
music really loud or just yell at him

648
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:52.159
and that generally works. It's like, this is a boundary I heard of

649
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:55.880
that. Actually, you're supposed to
cuss in my culture, you're supposed to

650
00:46:55.880 --> 00:47:00.920
cuss out a ghost. And uh, yeah, have you watched This Fool

651
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:07.000
on Hulu? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's an episode where the

652
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.840
season actually yeah, it's the season
two, but the mom she's a maid,

653
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:15.519
and there's a scene where the old
lady thinks that the house is haunted,

654
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:17.519
but it's actually her because she keeps
working because she has to work.

655
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:21.679
She's a she's a Mexican mom.
She can't not work. She was supposed

656
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:22.960
to retire. So she goes to
this lady's house and she starts cleaning it.

657
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:25.559
The lady doesn't know, so the
lady thinks there's a ghost, and

658
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:30.400
so she pretends to like exercise the
ghost out of the house, and she's

659
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:32.800
just yelling and cussing at it,
like get out of here, and just

660
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:36.760
a bad word at the bad word
in Spanish, and yeah, it's a

661
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:40.000
thing. Sure, you're supposed to, you're supposed to. Yeah, but

662
00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:44.000
I don't know, like there's there's
been creepy things that have happened, Like

663
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:46.199
I think I talked about it and
I don't know somewhere, but like we've

664
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:50.920
gotten I think with the lights actually
has happened with me. We're like flickering

665
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.320
lights. My sister in my studio, for example. One time she she

666
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:58.400
asked me, like something, I've
need to think anything creepy ever happened?

667
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:04.000
Held on Like just now, I
think I'm just psyching myself out. You're

668
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:08.159
scaring me. No, Edwin,
it's probably okay. It's like the middle

669
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:12.280
of the day right now. Usually
when just cuss at it, yeah,

670
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:15.559
tell it to get out. We'll
all cuss right now. Yeah, get

671
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:22.519
out of there, you fucking ghost. I wasn't actually gonna do it.

672
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:24.599
I was streaking coffee, like,
oh well, anyway, I did it,

673
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:30.400
but yeah, I did it for
you. Yeah, this is me.

674
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:34.320
I think I just psycked myself out. But yeah, like see,

675
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:38.360
and I'm telling you about the demon
story where when my sister asked me about

676
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:42.199
that, and she's like, has
anything creepy ever happened in here? And

677
00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:44.800
I was like, uh, you
know one time we were talking, you

678
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:46.960
know, we had a conversation.
Whenever the girl said the word demon,

679
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:52.519
my light would flicker. And right
when I said that to my sister about

680
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:57.639
another story, my neon light started
flickering and it never does that, and

681
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:00.800
she, my sister screamed. She
was like a like, and I was

682
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:05.400
like what it turned around and yeah, like it's yeah, it was.

683
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:07.039
It was weird. It's really weird
like that. To me, I'm like,

684
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:15.199
that's something else. And I've been
sent crystals and that piece of wood

685
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.599
to burn it, and to whatever
I tried burning it, you just got

686
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:21.360
all black. I didn't I guess
I'm not doing it right, but I

687
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:22.679
couldn't get it to work. I
don't know how it works. And also

688
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:30.880
I don't know what what piece of
wood. Oh yeah, you just like

689
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:34.079
light it so it's smolders or whatever
and you get smoke from it. That's

690
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:38.440
all you don't have to like set
it on fire. You just just take

691
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:42.400
a fire. Yo, you don't
mean to do that, just you know,

692
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:45.800
you you light it and it just
you know, you just want the

693
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:49.519
smoke. You want the smoke,
and you want some window to be open

694
00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:52.280
so whatever's in your house can get
out. That's the other thing. So

695
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:57.079
you want like the windows open and
then you shut the windows when you're done,

696
00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:00.039
so it's that doesn't come back in. Well yeah, so it's like

697
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:04.320
that's the theory is that it doesn't
like the smoke. Like that's how saging

698
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:08.239
and uh and the you know,
any sort of smoke based thing works is

699
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:12.440
that it the spirits don't like the
smoke and they get out. But I

700
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:16.239
also think sound might be better in
a way because it just seems like so

701
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:21.639
it sounds so woo woo when I
hear myself say it. But like you

702
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:25.840
know, because ghosts are on an
energy vibration, so sound is a vibration.

703
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:30.679
So it would make more sense than
them just not liking the way something

704
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:44.320
smelled, just coughing out goes should
just even just you think that, do

705
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:46.840
you think that? But it's good
to have I imagine them getting sucked out

706
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:51.159
that's kind of how I was.
Yeah, so I'm like, open the

707
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:54.840
window. Yeah. Also it helps
to just dissipate the smoke in your house.

708
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:01.599
Don't you start coughing with the ghost. You don't want that much.

709
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:10.840
Yeah, I saged myself to death. Uh, it's a way to go.

710
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:14.760
It is a way to go.
But yeah, I think sounds nice

711
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:17.639
because yeah, I mean, I
like, I'll still use sage and polasanto.

712
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:22.360
But it is appropriating other cultures,
but it works. Like the thing

713
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:28.599
is that it gets appropriated because it
works. But sound Also, you want

714
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:30.639
to play a big country song,
you want to play classical music, real

715
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:36.880
loud. I think that works just
as well. Some jazz, some fucking

716
00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:44.800
sexy jazz. That's why I put
jazz on my podcast to keep it makes

717
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:52.159
sense it. Yeah, the sexy
ghosts, they're just like, oh,

718
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:55.639
here we are, Yeah, here
we are, right right time, right

719
00:51:55.840 --> 00:52:08.360
space. Well, on on every
episode, we ask for spooky recommendations,

720
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:15.039
anything spooky watched, show, movie, podcasts, games, No one ever

721
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:20.000
does games whatever. Do you guys
have spooky recommendations? I love this.

722
00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:23.559
I've actually seen it for the third
time, already binged it again on Apple

723
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:28.079
TV. There's a thing called calls. Oh you love it? I love

724
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:31.920
it. Yeah, it's it's basically
imagine it's it's like a it's like a

725
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:38.519
sci fi paranormal thing. Like I
can't tell you too much about it.

726
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:42.280
If you listen to the first episode
and you're driven to listen to the next

727
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.719
one. It did its job because
there's questions like are these things connected?

728
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:50.480
What's going on? It's basically like
there's no visual there's no like you can't

729
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:54.119
see the actors. It's all waveforms. It's just phone calls people. Yes,

730
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:59.280
so they did the very creative visuals
where like you can see who's calling

731
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:02.119
who, and you start connecting the
story. You're like, oh my,

732
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:06.440
it's it's it just grabbed for me. It grabbed me and I didn't let

733
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:08.599
it go until yeah, binge the
whole thing. They're shorter, shorter episodes,

734
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:12.519
they're not like forty five minutes.
But there's also I think maybe nine

735
00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:15.800
or ten episodes maybe Bess. Yeah, highly recommend that one. Yeah,

736
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:20.400
I listen to it or watch it. I'm trying to think, like I've

737
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:23.440
been watching a lot of Nordic noir
lately, which isn't really like what is

738
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:30.280
spooky no it's like it's like a
snow true crime. It's like snowy true

739
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:36.480
crime. It's like you're in Norway
or like or yeah, you know,

740
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:38.920
like any sort of snow. It's
basically true crime in the snow is a

741
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:50.440
Nordic noir. It is exactly only
cases that happened in winter when it's that's

742
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:54.480
a good idea, Honestly, it
would people like Nordic noirs. They're a

743
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:59.920
thing. They're genre of the of
the I had no idea. Yeah it's

744
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:04.079
but anyway, I watched this one. This is gonna be so niche that

745
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:07.519
not a lot of people are gonna
like this. But there's this one called

746
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:12.480
The Wall, and it's French,
so it's got subtitles, but it takes

747
00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:16.239
place and I looked it up.
It's so fascinating. In a really northern

748
00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:22.159
town in Canada, there is a
town that's basically all indoors and it's just

749
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:25.880
basically like a like a mall type
thing, but they have the school indoors.

750
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:30.119
They have all the houses connected,
like they're all in this one thing

751
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:34.920
and it's they call it the Wall, so it's like a windbreak for the

752
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:40.199
town. Oh and I was like
saying, it, and it is.

753
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:44.199
And the first season of The Wall, Yeah, it's real. It's a

754
00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:45.800
real town you can go to.
It's a mining town, so like a

755
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:50.960
lot of people don't go there unless
they're working. So I just thought that

756
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:55.920
was so fascinating. But and it's
a murder of course, it's a murder

757
00:54:55.920 --> 00:55:00.559
show, so like they find a
body, they got to figure out who

758
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:04.119
murdered this person and put a mask
on their face. Like it's it's good.

759
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:08.519
It's good, but I recommend the
first season. The last two seasons

760
00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:15.159
aren't that great, but the first
season, especially in that weird town that

761
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:20.280
and I just watched Salt Burn again, which I haven't seen. It's it's

762
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:22.519
good. It's good, but I
don't know how spooky it is. It's

763
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:29.159
more once again deprived. It's like
vampire. No, it's I thought I

764
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:30.760
had to do with that. Do
you think it's well, you'd think it

765
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:36.360
was, but it's they're all wearing
those watch this because it's they're at a

766
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:39.519
party, so that's it. No, it's more like classism. But so

767
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:43.519
the main guy is not a vampire. No, he's not a vampire,

768
00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:45.920
but he looks looks like one in
real life. Yes, he does,

769
00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:52.800
Yes, missed opportunity, but yeah, I've been obsessed with it. In

770
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:55.000
fact, I just sent Edwin a
T shirt idea that he the one that

771
00:55:55.039 --> 00:56:00.039
he won't respond on. Well,
which one? You know, the dancing

772
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:05.880
the Serbian dancing lady. Oh,
I will respond to them, so I

773
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:12.079
sent him. I'll respond here publicly. It's very well. One of them.

774
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:15.920
One of them is a pure Saltburn
reference because it's the Serbian dancing lady

775
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:23.039
and she and then I just wrote
murder on the dance floor, you better

776
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:28.599
not kill the me, which is
from Saltburn. And then the other one.

777
00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:30.960
That's why I didn't get it.
Yeah, well I have to watch

778
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:36.119
this so I get it. You
should see it. People either love or

779
00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:39.119
hate that movie, so you know, be prepared. I've seen I've seen

780
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:44.039
those reactions on Twitter. Oh then
you know, then you know what's coming.

781
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:49.000
So but that and then what else
does she say? The other one

782
00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:52.559
is dance like everyone's watching and you
have a knife, which I think is

783
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:57.480
really funny, and Edwin is not
responding to that one at all. Look

784
00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:00.559
at this my brother. My brother
responded the exact same way, and I'm

785
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:06.239
like, this is genius. The
exact same way, like just like I

786
00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:07.679
don't get it, like just kind
of standing there and just be like,

787
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:12.320
I don't know. They're like what, like, I don't know how.

788
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:15.679
I feel like it's an confusing thing. Imagine you ask every guy out there

789
00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:21.280
and everyone's just like, uh,
you know, it is kind of like

790
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:24.320
a like everyone's watching in it.
You have a knife and you're the Siberian

791
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:30.280
or the Serbian dancing woman. I
think that's funny. It makes sense,

792
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:37.800
that's funny. Fine, we don't
have to make that one. But still,

793
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:40.440
I think that's a funny tea.
I like the graphics of it,

794
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:45.360
the I think the the thing I
would need to look it up to get

795
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:47.199
it. I think because I'm a
little like, what what does that mean?

796
00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:51.800
The knife? When I get but
I'm like, it's kind of creepy,

797
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:53.679
like a little dark. I know, it's very dark. I think

798
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:58.519
it should be maybe on like our
secret Patreon or something like. It should

799
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:04.800
be on the to figure out it's
for just the deep deep cut fans should

800
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:07.480
get that one. Yes, yes, plus here here they have me.

801
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:12.960
I'm in Ecuador right now and we
have the military going around. So imagine

802
00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:15.440
it was in Spanish and they understood
it, and it's like I had to

803
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:19.920
have a knife. You have to
understand who the Siberia, the Serbian dancing

804
00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:22.159
woman is, you know, like
hence the deep cut, deep cut,

805
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:27.599
and you know her image is right
there on the shirt. So it's like

806
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:32.440
it's very niche, but someone's gonna
get it like it's and that's kind of

807
00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:36.480
like what we look for when we're
in tea shirts with somebody someone comes up,

808
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:37.920
oh my god, I get it, or oh I love that I

809
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:43.360
was in that concert. Yeah,
okay, yeah, I don't have any

810
00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:46.400
speaker reper nations because I've been just
still watching Bones. I have a pot

811
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:52.159
of Bones. Yes, I started
rewatching it because I came across like a

812
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:53.239
TikTok clip of the show and I
was like, oh my god, I

813
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:58.679
actually never finished watching this. I
always get to and then stop. So

814
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:02.320
I'm at season ten now. If
anyone's wondering exactly it went that far,

815
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:07.960
I think there's like twelve seasons for
them. It's still going. Is it

816
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:10.559
done? No, it's not,
No, it's done. It's done now.

817
00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:16.719
Yeah okay, so yeah, that's
why I have I don't have any

818
00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:21.920
recommendations because I've been only watching that
and I don't know what my problem is,

819
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:23.079
but now I can't stop, but
I have to finish it. So,

820
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:28.519
oh, I thought of something that
was actually scary. I watched this

821
00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:32.000
thing called The Devil's Hour and that's
a British show. And then yeah,

822
00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:36.719
and that's all about this woman who
keeps waking up at three thirty three in

823
00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:43.280
the morning and everything. Yeah,
and everything's out of sync with her and

824
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:45.519
she doesn't know why. It's like
she keeps seeing these visions and she doesn't

825
00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:50.440
get it. What is this on? It's on I think it's on Amazon.

826
00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:52.679
I think, yeah, it's on
one of the channels on Amazon.

827
00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:58.719
And it's good. It's got that
one of the guys that played doctor who

828
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:04.079
Capelli. What's his name, the
older one, yeah, the yes,

829
01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:07.000
okay, so he was named but
I know who you're talking about. Yeah,

830
01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:10.679
so he's got a long face,
yes, the long face. Yeah,

831
01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:16.840
our horse syndrome as we call it. But yes, he's on it.

832
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:22.360
And uh, it's good. It's
pretty you go, it needs a

833
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:24.320
second season, but it's still worth
the journey going on it, and it's

834
01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:28.639
getting a second season, so it's
like, oh, okay, it should

835
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:31.800
be it should be worth going and
watching it, but yeah, it's like,

836
01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:35.199
oh, what what does this mean? What does this vision mean?

837
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:38.800
Like it's I don't know, it's
good, it's good, okay, good

838
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:44.159
to know, good to know.
And before we go, do you want

839
01:00:44.199 --> 01:00:50.159
to tell the spookys where too?
Fine? Both? Also, I was

840
01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:52.280
on their podcast, so everyone should
go listen to that. I have told

841
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:55.440
the story before many times, but
nobody gets old, so it's great.

842
01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:59.440
Fine, Yeah, it's you did
a great job. Come listen to her

843
01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:05.360
talk and come listen to well you
can find us wherever you get your podcast

844
01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:08.840
whatever you're listening on now. And
you know, I'm on Scary Mystery Surprise

845
01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:14.519
with Edwin and we you know,
love hearing from people that are listening.

846
01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:20.199
And then I'm also on Scary FM
as well with my own show called tell

847
01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:22.280
Me a Ghost Story, where people
can call in and tell me leave me

848
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:29.679
a story on a message machine and
then listen to Sexy Jazz. That's great,

849
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:32.679
Yes, it's very cool. I've
actually told a story on our podcast,

850
01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:37.320
tell Me a Ghost Story. And
then for me Scary FM, I

851
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:40.719
run the show's scary story podcast,
horror Story, along with Christina who also

852
01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:45.199
helps out with it True Scary Story
and coming up with a couple of the

853
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:49.760
other new ones. But either way, if you search as scary FM on

854
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:52.840
a podcast app, you'll find the
shows on there. Right now, I'm

855
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:54.679
promoting horror Story, so well,
you'll find us all. If you look

856
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:59.519
up scary FM, you'll find all. Right. So, and I'm maybe

857
01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:04.800
a little bit but like all great
podcasts, really very cool shows, very

858
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:07.199
creepy shows too. So yes,
and now we're thinking of a way to

859
01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:10.239
scare kids. So we're coming up
with the kids show for love It,

860
01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:14.000
Love It. I thought about doing
that a while ago, and then I

861
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:15.000
was like, I can't keep up
with all this. I have too many

862
01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:20.360
ideas and no time. But I
did want to do that. It's cool,

863
01:02:20.440 --> 01:02:22.360
it's cool stuff. But yeah,
and then me on Instagram, I'm

864
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:27.360
at edwin Cove. That's E d
w I n CoV and that's my user

865
01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:30.480
name for everywhere else. I'm launching
a YouTube channel, so in case anybody

866
01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:34.480
wants to see me fail on there
at first and they get better, I

867
01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:37.719
mean I'm already on there failing too, so that's great. Yeah, it's

868
01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:40.679
fine. We're failing publicly, but
we're doing it for the content and it's

869
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:44.760
going to be good. So yeah, yeah, yeah, awesome. I

870
01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:46.679
will have all of that in the
show notes. Thank you so much to

871
01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:51.320
both of you for joining me,
and again go check out their episode where

872
01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:52.360
I'm on it and all their episodes, not just the one I'm on this

873
01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:59.440
scary mystery surprise everyone. Yeah,
visit us. Thank you, It's been

874
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:02.920
great. All right, Say spooky
and watch out for I don't know,

875
01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:07.239
someone grabbing your hand while you're sleeping, like when you're taking a shower and

876
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:13.400
you feel that a little bit.
Yes, your hands are bad, not

877
01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:21.880
good. Say spooky. We'll catch
up real next time. Bye. Spooky

878
01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:27.079
Tales is hosted by Christina and MJ, produced and edited by Christina. Everything

879
01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:31.719
is written and researched by Christina MJ
and with the help of Don Shout Out

880
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:36.679
Don. Thank you so much for
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881
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:38.920
hear, consider living us a five
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882
01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:43.719
do not leave us anything. Please. If you want short spooky stories,

883
01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:46.800
follow us on TikTok at spooky Taels. You can also find some of the

884
01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:51.719
same videos posted on Instagram and that
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885
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:55.079
in the show notes. If you
want bonus episodes, stickers exclusive stickers,

886
01:03:55.159 --> 01:04:00.079
might I add, then consider joining
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887
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:05.199
slash as Spooky Tails. There are
over at least fifteen bonus episodes right now,

888
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:10.440
and we do at least one a
month, sometimes two, depending on

889
01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:15.320
how we are feeling. If you
want to support the podcast and don't or

890
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:18.679
can't or don't want to, that's
fine. Join the patreon, then consider

891
01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:24.519
getting some merch. We have an
adorable beanie that I love. I absolutely

892
01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:28.280
adore it. It's so comfy,
it's warm, it has a spooky in

893
01:04:28.360 --> 01:04:31.559
Old English letters. There's also a
baseball hat in the same way as spooky

894
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:34.480
and Old English letters, and that's
what I wear in the summers. They're

895
01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:38.719
both awesome hats. And there's other
things in there, like the no Mama's

896
01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:42.599
shirts, which is a very popular
shirt. If you like history, check

897
01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:46.480
out my other podcast, Estodia is
Unknown, hosted with the unofficial official guest

898
01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:49.639
co host of A Spooky Tails,
Carmen, And if you like novelas,

899
01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:55.760
checkout Novelaskofsito, which Carmen and I
also host together. And yeah, we

900
01:04:55.840 --> 01:05:01.400
love every single listen every single a
spooky Thank you so much, Stay as Spookie,