March 14, 2025
The Exorcism of Maria Pizarro
The first exorcism to ever take place in Peru was done to a young woman named Maria Pizarro. It took place during the Spanish Inquistion.
On today's episode, Carmen tells Cristina about this exorcism.
First, they read a listener story.
If you have...
The first exorcism to ever take place in Peru was done to a young woman named Maria Pizarro. It took place during the Spanish Inquistion.
On today's episode, Carmen tells Cristina about this exorcism.
First, they read a listener story.
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Hi, this is Christina, and at the time of this
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episode release, Carmen and I are on vacation mode visiting
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our grandma and the rest of our family in Mexico.
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And because of that, we decided to split this episode
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into two parts. So you'll hear Carmen's paranormal portion of
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the episode this week, and next week you'll hear my
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part of the episode. And after this we'll be back
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to normal episodes. All right, and onto the episode. I
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said episodes too many times. Hi, this is Christina and
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Carmen and this is another episode of Speaky Tales podcast
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for all things spooky antro crime in Latin America. And
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I tried to work on my intro because Carmen only
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the patron members heard it. But Carmen was bullying me
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last week. I forgot about that. Yeah, yeah, okay. On
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today's episode, we have a crazy exorcism story for the
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paranormal portion, and then a very sad but ends with
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someone surviving with the survivor you know. Yeah so, But
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before we get to our two stories, we do have
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a listener story and if you want to send a
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story to us, you can email apok Do at gmail
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dot com. You can submit it on Discord, you can
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DM it on any of the socials. You can call
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these Spooky hotline and leave a voicemail. Any of those
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are fine. We love receiving them, and we're running shorts,
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so please send them. Oh no, yeah, I have like three.
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Usually there's more backups, and so you have three left? Yeah?
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Oh no, Please send us more stories please? All right?
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You want to read this one? Yeah? So this is
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from Venissa and we have a location Quell Lakes McDonald's
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on West March Lane in Stockton. I know they sent
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this after seeing the Stockton video. I love it. You
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know what, send us more Stockton stories. We love a
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two o nine story. Yeah. I actually have driven by
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this McDonald's, so you have. We haven't been inside. No,
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why want to go to McDonald's. Yeah, I don't need
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They're disgusting. There's better fast food places, you know. Yeah, okay,
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to mention them feeding a genocidal right also that? Okay,
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So this happened in twenty ten and twenty fifteen, so
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let's get into the story. In twenty ten, I had
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started my first job as a crew member at Quell
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Lake's McDonald's. I was so fairly new, so my hours
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were limited. The assistant manager at the time knew I
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was looking to work more hours, so when I started
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at four pm, she asked me if I would be
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interested in staying a few hours longer to cover a
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front lobby closing shift. She made it clear what my
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responsibilities were, you know, cleaning, sweeping, mopping, not only the
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dining room, but both the men and the women's restrooms.
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What she didn't tell me was that the women's restroom
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was haunted. But I needed the money, so it was whatever,
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and I took the extended hours. It was my first
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night meeting the closing crew, so I stayed cleaning the
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lobby and out of everyone's way. Ten pm and the
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doors were already locked by the closing manager. I didn't
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know the lights and music were on an atomatic timer,
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so it shook me when they went off. There are
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technically only three closures by the end of the night,
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the drive through person, the girl person, and the manager.
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Since I was a lobby person, my shift ended at midnight.
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Eleven PM is around the corner and I'm ready to
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clean the restrooms. As I'm walking towards the restrooms, a
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loud herring scream from what sounded like a little girl
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came from the women's side. I froze where I stood,
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and before I could even process what I heard, it
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happens again, the same little girl scream coming from the
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women's restroom. I didn't move until a closer came up
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to the register and asked if I was okay. I
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didn't hear that. She just nonchalantly replies, what the little
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girl's screaming? Yeah, she does that sometimes. Excuse me the
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way I would die. I asked the closure to stay
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with me to check the restrooms out, and nobody was there.
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Nothing was there. It never happened again. Fast forward five
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years later, a week after I had quit, I stayed
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for lobby clothing, retelling this story to the closures as
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they wait to clock in, since we were exchanging spooky stories.
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As soon as I finished showing the story, the sign
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for the women's restroom falls and it makes a loud
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sound hitting the ground. We all got We all got
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spooked out of our seats and went our separate ways.
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I'll never forget it. Oh my god, no, no, that's terrifying. Also,
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I love that they were just sitting there sharing scary
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stories me too. Yeah, you never worked the fast food
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john did you? No privileged? I'm sorry. I only worked
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seasonal at Tjmax and Macy's. I was gonna say the
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way you forge connections with someone in fast food because
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y'all are torrenching or trenches forging the trenches or whatever
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the term is, like in the trenches. It's the real
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war in America. Like, thank you for your service, fast
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food workers. That's who we should thanking all the sides. Yeah,
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that is who should be all the signs, who we
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should be thinking because it is rough. Yeah, the closing
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shift and restrooms traumatizing. I never had to clean the restroom.
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I thought it was too good for it. But I
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did do it, like twice. One time I walked into
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I don't I feel like we've said this before, but
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I worked at the Chicken Barn in my youth eighteen
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eighteen my youth, Yeah, and the yeah, I was closing
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and they were like, oh, I go clean the bathrooms.
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And I went there and there was just like no,
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this wasn't even closing. It was like in the afternoon. Anyway.
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I went in there and there was like a shit
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smeared all over the walls and I were ran out
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screaming and I was like, oh my god, there's shit everywhere.
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And I was like, have heaving in the middle of
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the and there's too but I can be Yeah, I
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was packed. It was lunch hour, that's what time. It was, oh,
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between twelve and noon, and I was like in the middle.
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Oh my, I was like you They were like stop
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screaming that there's like poop all over the walls. And
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it was like that's everywhere. A lot just yelling and screaming,
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and like so many people walked up and left. Actually,
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you know what, I sometimes the Modesto some bread. It
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will pop up to me and then I will click
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to see what always up. And so somebody posted a
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thread about the grossest restaurants in Modesto. I remember it
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was kind of yes, the Chicken Barn was on it,
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and so I told my husband like, how you used
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to work there, right, and how we used to get
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food from there, blah bah blah, and he's like, oh,
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you should try some time. I was like, actually, we
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can't try it. I can't do that because it's favor
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Glosses played this yeah, yep, and they had like details
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about what was gross about it. Something about it was
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someone who used to work there, but and more recently
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than you. But I don't remember the years or when
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they were there or they were still there and whatever
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point is, they worked there at some point and it
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was like it been about like employees not washing their hands,
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like putting their hands in their butts, and hopefully I'm
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not missed remembering either way, it was grossed though. For
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the record, while we had food from there, I never
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saw anyone do this. Oh okay, good, Yeah, I mean
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it's too late. I ate the food, you know, but
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it was years ago, you know, yeah, so long ago.
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Whoever was putting their pans down their butt it wasn't
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there because I can't see it. I'm not sure. But yeah,
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it's one of the most successing places. And then raising
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canes was also on there. Some people said, well, what
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they said is that their chicken they got it wasn't
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cooked all the way. Yeah, but nothing not washing hands. Yeah,
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I don't know. I think about that sometimes I'm like,
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oh my god, maybe it's just stop eating out, but
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I can't stop eating out. You know, like some people
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don't wash their hands and you can get sick. You
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can get happtitus a dysentery. What a dysentery? How the
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fuck do you pronounce it? A century? No? No, wait, whatever,
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second way you said it, I think sounded right. The centery.
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Is that how I said it? I think so? Anyway,
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that'shit spreading through Borlin right now. So I saw that?
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Where else? Did I see? I saw somewhere else outside
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of the Oregon Trail. They were saying it was from
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the unhoused community because they don't have like where to
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use the bathroom, you know, or wash their hands, and yeah,
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so that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, anyway, I was gonna
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add okay, sorry really quick. This story reminded me about
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how I applied to McDonald's. When I was going to
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MGC and they didn't fucking hire me, and I was like,
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are you fucking serious? Oh no, same when I was
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applying everywhere, no one was hiring. We were there actually
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at the open interviews together. Oh yeah, we were, yeah, competing,
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they didn't well, they didn't hire either one of us. No,
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I also went to open interviews. That's some grocery store
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that was like American grocery store. Our friend I didn't
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know the names of some vegetables and that's why they
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didn't hire Wow, and he knew apparently, I don't know,
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you know, the sad thing. The only reason Chicken Barn
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hired me and so fucking disgusting to I know, I know. Yeah,
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but they were like, well, we're only look for like people.
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And so the manager was trying to go about it,
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avoiding saying what it really was. He's like, we try
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to look for people that look good up on the
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cash register, like they're presentable, they're charismatic. And then boss,
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the owner passed by and he was like, you have
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to be pretty. You can't be ugly up here. And
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I was like, I remember Jessica telling me about that,
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our other friend that worked there. We yeah, we worked
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at together and it was so fun. I'm telling you.
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We were We went through the trenches together. Yeah, that's
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real war. And I say that as a veteran. Well, famously,
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you didn't go to war, so true, true, true, I
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only went. We went to go have fun and visit
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all the countries in Europe. I almost deployed once. Almost.
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Oh okay, I guess we should get into this possession.
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And that's really yes, Okay, So before we share the
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possession of Maria Pisaro. We got this information from a
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scholarly I feel like I said that. We're a scholarly
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article by the Chilean historian Rene Millard Garvacco, who dedicated
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his life to studying colonial times and the Inquisition in
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Chile and Peru. And honestly I stand for that. Don
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went through it to give us this. Now I remember
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her time about that. Thank you, Don, Yes, thank you.
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The forty page article is called Entre Angeles Demonios Maria
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Pisaro elenki Cicion de Lima and it was posted in
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two thousand and seven. So Maria Pisaro was born in Lima, Peru,
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in fifteen fifty to Catalina Sermigno and Martin Pisaro, a
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long distance relative of the Spanish conquistado or Francisco Pisaro. Gross. Yeah, Maria.
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I grew up in a big family that included four
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brothers and two sisters, but very early lost her father
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and youngest sister Anna. So Maria was raised by her
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very traditional mother, who forbade her daughters from getting an education.
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Because of this, Maria only learned how to sew and
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stitch since her mother felt these were some of the
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few skills are proper lady needed. Maria's mother did not
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think much of her daughter and believed she wouldn't make
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a good wife or mother. Madia's biggest hater her mom.
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Sometimes it is oh, yeah, so sad, sad, so yeah.
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The mom didn't believe that she would make a good
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wife for mother, so when Maria was an adolescent, she
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forced Maria into a convent so she could begin her
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life as a nun. That plan never came to fruition, though,
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as Maria was quickly kicked out of the convent after
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nuns accused her of having a sharp tongue. Love that
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for her. Yeah, and she also didn't have the necessary
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skills to be a nun, according to the nuns. I
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wonder what those skills are. I don't know. Maybe she
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could pestivity. I'm not sure. She couldn't read. Maybe maybe
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thought well to put the historical period Madia lived through
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into context. Madia was coming of age a few years
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before the Peruvian Inquisition started. The Peruvian Inquisition, which began
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in fifteen seventy and lasted until eighteen twenty was a
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period in time where the Spanish crown gave religious leaders
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the power to accuse, gather, punish, and torture anyone who
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did not follow the Catholic doctrine. The Catholic Church also
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banned and burned any books that did not promote Catholicism.
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It was like Latin America's version, and I mean put
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on by Spain, but their version of the witch trials,
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like the famous Salem witch trials and all the witch burnings,
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like this was their version of it. Yeah. Well, it
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was around this time that, at eighteen years old, Madia
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had her first and nervous breakdown or what they called
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it back then, a brain spasm. I have those all
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the time. The attack lefters so weak that she was
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taken to a priest so she could confess and be
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given her last rites. They thought she was dying, which
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in Catholicism for anyone who doesn't know, is considered a
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holy sacrament a person is supposed to receive from a
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priest when they're about to die. Her family took her
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to a group of priests known as the Order of
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the Dominicans, since her brother Martin himself was a Dominican Friar.
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It was this group of religious followers and leaders who
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were first exposed to Madia's first demonic fits. According to
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