The Exorcism of Almansa

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Hi everyone, This is Christina and
Carmen, and this is another episode of

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a Spooky Tells, the podcast for
all things a spooky and terrible stories.

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I just make you a little bit
depressed. That's what I have today.

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Oh great, another cult. No, it's another cult. It's an exorcism.

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Oh okay, those are great.
Also, this one not so much.

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It's terrible. I'll give the appropriate
trigger warnies after our listeners story.

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This was a phone call. There
was two stories that were both short,

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but I wanted to separate them.
So there's no like goodbye in this one

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because it cut off and then she
called again to leave the second voicemail.

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Oh okay, so that's where she
says goodbye, So she didn't just hang

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up. There was a properly goodbye, but it's going to be in the

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next one, all right, So
our listener story, are you ready to

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pressed to it? Yeah? I
am good afternoon from Jnver, Colorado.

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My name is chat up that If
and I love your guys this show it's

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so relatable. Let me start off
with my story. As almost every Mexican

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family we would go every winter Caravani
to Mexico be officed and one house,

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so maybe up to four family in
one household, so that meant a family

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to a room. So I was
there in a room with my dad,

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my stepmom, and my two younger
siblings, a brother and a sister.

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With Christmas time, everybody drinking partying. So I went to bed. But

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in the night, which I thought
was a night, I felt something jump

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on the bed and it started choking
me. But when I opened my eyes

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it was my sister, but he
had like a cheating face. I didn't

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really move when I didn't manage to
that kind of like kissed her with my

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foot and she went flying on the
floor. So when that happened, all

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the lights turned on and I thought
it woke up. Maybe I wasn't sleeping.

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But when my pet mon chest.
It was my little sister, and

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she was crying on the floor saying
that I had crushed her off the bed.

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I know, so scary and since
that point, believe me, I

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have not ever sat with my sister
or wanted to be alone with her in

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a room. And this was over
It's funny. Uh wow, oh my

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god, I don't I don't know, like a demon like for bow,

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it could have been that in her
own like sleeperhouse's nightmare. She registered her

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sister. But why was she on
top of her? Yeah, that's the

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weird part, because her sister says
she was climbing into bed like crying.

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She kicked me. I was just
climbing into bed. But then it's like,

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why was she on top of you
choking you? Yeah, with a

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demon face. That's that's concerning exactly. Yeah, Like it sounds like,

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I mean, I guess if she
was sleeping next to her, and then

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her dream she thought she was on
top of her, so then she kicked

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her. She could still kick her
out of bed she's next to her.

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Yeah, yeah, still terrifying.
I don't blame you, Chata for not

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wanting to be with her sister,
even twenty two years later same same like,

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how do you even Oh, that's
that's scary. It's you know,

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it would have been less scary if
the sister just woke up and she hadn't

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fallen off the bed, like if
she was just like hare, are you

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okay? But it's more terrifying that
she kicked a demon like off of her

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and then her sister was unlike Flory
crying like that's scary. I wonder if

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she like asked her like, hey, what were you doing? That's a

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good question. Let us know if
you've ever asked her like, what were

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you doing? What if she really
was like on top of her choking her,

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yeah, because I mean there's a
reason she doesn't feel still now comfortable

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with her Yeah, she's a demon. Both things would be terrifying. Yeah,

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man, speaking of demons. Today
we are we are talking about a

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possession this and I will give a
trigger warning for child abuse, child sexual

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abuse, and murder. Hm.
Wow great. Yeah, I'm sorry,

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Carmen, but you listener, you
can skip this if you want. Carmen

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can't. So, so this is
the Exorcism of Rosa Fernandez Gonsalves. Oh,

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okay, and I know we focus
on Latin America. But you know

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what, when it's convenient to me, I also claim the term Hispanic and

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so so she's from Spain. Yes, yes, this case is from Spain.

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So today we're Hispanic. Don't be
her Panic, be Hispanic. I

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forgot, it doesn't matter. I
might have said it wrong, but that's

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what we are today. We are
Hispanic. This is a truly tragic case.

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You know, exorcism movies and like
stories, fictional stories or like stories

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that don't end in murder that have
to do with exorcisms I think are super

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scary and entertaining, but like sadly, in the real world, in real

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life, most exorcisms that take place
end up in murder. M hmm.

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They're not as fun. Yeah,
it's like murder, murder justified by religion.

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M hmm. So yeah, that's
what this is. This takes place

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during the nineteen hundreds in Almanza,
Spain. This town it's known for it's

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a wine. It's in Spain's wine
region. I guess that's a thing.

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Okay, okay, I love me
some wine. Maybe I'll make it to

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it. Spania. Yeah, I
thought it was almost a Spania. I

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don't know how to do a Spanish
accident. I'm sorry. I was gonna

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keep going and I was like stop, I know, I feel you.

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Almansa also has a rich history.
The town has been around since like the

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fourteenth century. The name apparently is
derived from an Arabic word that I can't

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read, but the word means halfway
of the road, okay, And it

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dates back to the Roman Empire,
like during the times of the Roman Empire.

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Wow. And you know, for
the longest time it was known as

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a peaceful, quiet TOURISTI town wine
castles, at least until the case that

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it's either known as the exorcism of
Drossefernandez Gonsalves or the exorcism of Almansa,

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And so again, this is horrible. Eleven year old Rose Fernandez Gonsalves,

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called Rosie by her loved ones,
was born on April twenty second, nineteen

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seventy nine. She was an only
child. Her parents were Rosa Gonsalves Frito

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and Jesus Fernandez Pina. Oh.
And also, I'm going to refer to

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eleven year old Drosa as just because
there's a lot of names in this case,

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and her mom is Rosa so Rosa
Senior, Senora Rossa. She's gonna

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be Rosa. Okay, yes,
eleven year old Rosa is Rosie Rosi for

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the rest of this episode. Yes, so Rosa. She was a well

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known Kurandera in Almansa, and apparently
Almansa itself the town is like very very

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heavy into spiritual healers, Curandero's magic, you know, rukeria type things like

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they're known for that. And Rosa
was one of many Guranderas. So they

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didn't get the memo from the physic. Oh the Spanish Inquisition, Yeah,

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yeah, I guess they didn't get
the memo from then. Apparently the Spanish

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Inquisition was fucking around everywhere else except
Spain. I don't know it infazed them.

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Should be told. I don't know
what the Spanish Inquisition was doing in

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Spain, like if they had their
own things going on there, clearly not

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nothing there in that specif. I
don't know about anywhere else. But right,

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so, I'm sure you know this, but in many many cultures that

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do practice healing, spiritual healing,
the healer is not supposed to take money.

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Everything's supposed to be donations because it's
not supposed to be about the money.

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Oh, actually, you didn't know
that. Oh you didn't know that.

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Yeah, yeah, it's a thing. There's a town in the Philippines,

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or actually not a town, a
whole island in the philippin is called

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Sikiyor Island, and the island is
known for its witchcraft and they have like

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a yearly festival with a sorcerer.
I mean, the proper word is not

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sorcerer. I think I heard about
this, yeah, horror story. I

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worked on an episode that's where I
heard it from. Yes, yes,

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and it's an excellent episode. I'm
a little biased, but it is good

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and that in that research, I
learned that the whole town, like the

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healers, they don't take money.
It's all donations. So yeah, it's

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a thing. Androsam she was no
exception. She quote unquote was not in

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it for the money, but she
was making so much money houseway through donation.

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Oh right, okay, donations,
Yeah, donations. She was very

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sought out for her Kuran derismo,
like she was one of the most popular

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healers in this town. Sorry,
this might be dumb of me to say

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I didn't know there was gournandos in
Spain because I thought they were hell Catholic,

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So that's where my mind is.
Well, that's the thing. To

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me. Catholicism is very intertwined with
spiritualism and kuran derismo. There's almost no

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separating the two. But I thought
the gudan deismo came from like indigenous traditions

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and then it kind of like just
melded here in like Mexico, Latin America,

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but Spain itself. I just didn't
think it would be like that because

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you know what I mean. No, I did think that too, but

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this this town is also like I
mean, sorry, I'm like trailing or

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mingling my thought. Spain is very
superstitious. That's where the grapes come from,

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like the twelve grapes at Yeah,
that's true. Maybe it just so

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it's always been a thing and I
just didn't realize. Yeah, but I

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also didn't know how much some towns
believed in gurandrismo. Yeah as well,

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like what you were saying, Like
I did believe that was only like a

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thing in Latin America. Yeah,
but no, it's huge in Almansa.

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And so Drosa claimed to not be
in it for the money, but she

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was making a bunch of money doing
this, so much that her husband,

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who was a shoemaker, quit to
help her because she just had so many

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clients. You quit the shoemaking business, Yeah, he did, he did.

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And apparently she was trained by some
other big known healer in this area

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called Enrique el Vienna, and she
was given the title Sister of the Light

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and yeah, that name sounds a
little cul tea, yeah it does.

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And their house was filled with people
looking for her help every day. She

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truly believed that she had these powers
and that these powers ran in the family.

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So she convinced her sister Anna to
help with the business, to become

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a healer with her, because she
believed that, or it's believed at least

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in what she learned or how she
was try that curanderos that worked in pairs

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were stronger, and especially if they
were like family. I mean that makes

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sense. Yeah, yeah, because
they also say, like alone, the

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gift of like the supernatural scene and
things like that, it runs in the

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family. There's lines of brujas,
right, so yeah, that makes sense.

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And also on top of her sister
Anna, she also convinced her,

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not convinced, but her neighbor Maria
Achiles Rodriguez ESPINIYEP, she brought her onto

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the business as well. They were
very close. They alleged they might have

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had like a romantic relationship as well. Ew that was a little secret.

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Okay, okay, Miss Santa Garian
right. Rosa's neighbor Maria, brought on

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her sister Mercedes to the business.
So the four of them had their healing

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group together, Okay, And I
mean like everything was normal, you know,

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the business was good until it's always
in it until dunt, dun,

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dun. This is where you insert
the inverted picture. And they were happy

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until they weren't the picture and then
it either zooms in or out and then

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their eyes turned red or black.
Yeah. So, on September fifteenth,

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nineteen ninety, Rosa and her sister
went out for dinner with Maria and Mercedes.

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While they were eating dinner, Rosa
told the group that she wasn't feeling

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good, and so the four headed
back to Rosa's house. The events that

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followed is what would result in the
exorcism of eleven year old Rosie. Just

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poor Rosie. What did she She
didn't ask for this, she didn't know.

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It's facking terrible. I don't know
why I'm laughing. It's uncomfortable.

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So the Spanish news would refer to
the following four days as la ortia satanika

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as an orgy, the satanic orgy
ya okay, yeah, that's what they

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called it. So the four women
took hallucinogenic drugs or plants that it's not

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like confirmed what they took first,
and then like Rosa and Maria who had

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the relationship, hooked up and they
welcomed Anna and Mercedist to watch, okay.

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And then the next morning, Drosa
and Maria went to collect leaves from

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a plant called bellennio. Do you
know anything about this plant? Because I

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didn't, I had to look it
up. No, okay, Well it's

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a poisonous plant, okay, yes. In English, it's called henbane and

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it's part of the night shade family. Okay, I've heard of night shade.

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Yeah. Then you're like, oh, I don't want to mess with

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that. Yeah, and I don't
think I've heard good things about night shade.

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No, me neither. But this
plant is native to Europe and the

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physical and psychological reaction to henbane includes
loss of muscular control, dilation of the

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pupils, heart palpitations, hallucinations,
sturillium and enlarge doses coma and death.

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So okay, yeah, not good. It also has medicinal purposes, like

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if you extract something from it,
then you can use it as an analgesic.

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Oh okay, okay, yeah for
pain, so it's not all bad.

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But if you take it then it
becomes a hallucinogenic drug that can also

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have a whole lot of other symptoms. So that's what they went to go

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look for. They came back to
the house, and when they came back,

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Anna, Rosa's sister, she was
scared. She was afraid. She

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didn't want to take ill I just
realized, so she watched Anna watched her

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sister. Hey, I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I

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would have thrown up. Hey,
Like at first I was like, hey,

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whatever you do you but now it's
incestuous. I mean it was already

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incestrious, but I just realized it
was incestuous. And so now I'm like

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ready to throw up. Also,
like that's disturbing. Yeah, yeah,

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because she had Anna and me cousin
mer is. Anna is Rosa's sister,

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Yes, and then Maria is Rosa's
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so each of them are sisters.
There's oh no, no, no,

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no, yes, yeah yeah,
so yeah, already disturbing, and

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it just gets that's like the lightest
thing here. So Anna was afraid.

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She went home, and then at
some point everyone went home. Then on

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September sixteenth, nineteen ninety, the
next day, Drosa calls her neighbor Maria,

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asking her to come over. So
Madia grabbed her kids and went over,

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and when she got there, Drosa
told Maria that the spirit of Maria's

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evil husband, Martine, was possessing
her and trying to hurt her, hurting

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Maria. No, Drossa, it's
confusing. I was confused. Okay,

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yeah, So the spirit of Maria's
evil husband was trying to hurt Maria,

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yes, yes, yes, And
so Drosa needed to perform in exorcism on

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her because she was being possessed,
and then somehow also needed to perform this

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exorcism on Maria's children naked. I
mean that a reasonable conclusion you made,

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yeah, I think so. So
this exorcism grew more and more violent and

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disturbing. At some point, Drosa
put her fingers down Maria's children's mouths to

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make them vomit, and it was
so much it was to the point that

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they were bleeding and vomiting. Oh
my god, that's how aggressive. It

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was terrible, and she would have
continued this if it wasn't for Maria's evil

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husband, Matty. I don't actually
know if he was evil, I doubt

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it. But if it wasn't for
her husband, who barged in demanding for

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Maria and the kids to come home. So he took the kids from Drosa,

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I mean that sounds controlling. I'm
just kidding. Hey, if you

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don't let your kids participate in a
terrible exorcism, it's a little controlling.

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So he demanded that Maria also come
home, but Maria refused, so he

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grabbed the kids and left. Good. Yeah, yeah, at least he

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saved his his children. Yeah,
who knows what would have happened to them

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if she kept going no one had
put a stop to it. I believe

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that they would have been killed,
honestly. Yeah. So, a little

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bit later, after he leaves with
the kids and Rossan Maria still in Rosa's

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house. Mercedis, Maria's sister,
arrives at the house, she finds Maria

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and Rosa in bed together. I
was already I was going to say bed

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before you said it, but I
didn't stay it in time. Okay,

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well, yeah, you would have
guessed, right. And they told her

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that they were Jesus and Law and
Maria. Okay, so they were all

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playing, but to the delusional level. Yeah yeah, yeah yes. And

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then Hesus, Rosa's husband, and
Rossi's father. He also up at some

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point got home and came across also
like a strange sight them in bed.

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He saw them, No, no, he saw Rosa performing in exorcism on

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Maria, and he was worried about
what he saw. It must have looked

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horrendous. I don't know. They
looked like they were in bad shape,

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is what he said. And he
called Anna, then his own sister Hosepha

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to come over and help. So
when Anna and Hosepha arrived, they watched

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as Maria screamed as Rosa performed the
exorcism. These rituals that were part of

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the exorcism, which is not I
mean, they're they're making it up,

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not like official obviously, Okay.
I was wondering, like where are they

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getting their like exorcism rules? From
like guidelines, policies and procedures, like

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where's that coming from? Right?
They come from the from the Catholic Church?

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Were they even Catholic? Am I
just assuming they're Catholic because they're from

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Spain? Yeah? Yeah, I
don't. It never says, but I

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would. I would assume that too, or I would have. So these

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rituals involve sticky needles in voodoo dolls, throwing things around the room, throwing

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books, breaking things, and pin
on the floor. Okay the fuck?

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Yeah, yeah, and more of
this continued on to the seventeenth. So

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it's been what two days of this? It started on the yeah, right,

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three, it's a total of three
days, okay, because one was

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an orgy, not an exorcism,
yes, yes, okay, sixteen seventeen

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eighteen, So yeah, I started
on the sixteenth. Okay, So now

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it's midnight on the eighteenth, right, And at this point, dross and

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Maria had locked themselves in a room, leaving Drossa's husband to take care of

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Rosie in the house. And so
at midnight on the eighteenth, Mercedis returned.

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She had apparently got home at some
point, and she came back to

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continue the so called exorcism. So
Rosa's husband then decided to check on them,

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and he found them naked and covered
in vomit and urine. What the

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fuck? Ude? Oh man?
And how did he not smell that before?

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Maybe that's why he checked on them. I don't know. I couldn't

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say either, but like that's just
so disturbing. I don't know, I

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don't know, extremely disturbing. Yes, And when he opened the doors to

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check on them, the so at
this point, at this point, it

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is just Mercedes, Maria and Rosa. Okay, and me can remind me

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who merceaid? This is again,
mer this is Maria's sister, okay,

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okay, okay, okay. So
that then when he opened the door to

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check on them, they started hitting
him, and so he closed the door

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again, what the fuck? Okay? And then Maria got her period she

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started bleeding, and so Drosa interpreted
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and she began hitting and kicking Maria, and then Maria, probably in an

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attempt to save herself, said that
she wasn't possessed anymore and that this evil

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spirit was actually now possessing Rosie.
Oh my god. Yeah. So then

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Rosa orders Mercedes and Maria to bring
Rosie to her, and they do,

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and I don't know where her father
was, Okay, I was about to

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ask, because if he saw how
fucked up they were, why would he

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allow them to take her? That's
just wild. Yeah, maybe he wasn't

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there, but where would he be
if his wife was acting like that?

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Like or he just let them take
her? Yeah, that too, Yeah,

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which I think is what happened,
honestly. So yeah, they take

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her into the room and then all
three of them begin to beat Rosie.

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What the fuck? And this this
is the worst part of the episode,

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so probably if you don't want to
hear the details of how terrible this goes,

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skip like maybe five minutes or so. So they start beating Rosie,

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all three of them, in order
to expel the demon Rosa's husband. Here's

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the screaming and crying, and now
he barges in again. I don't know

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where he was before. Maybe he
was in the bathroom, I don't know,

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I don't know. Yeah, when
he opened the door, then the

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three women begin to beat him,
push him out of the room, and

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lock the door. I just feel
like he could have fought harder. I

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don't know. But I've refused to
believe that he couldn't just punch them,

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Like, come on, I don't
think I don't think they could overpower him,

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But I don't know what they look
like. I don't know. Yeah,

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we're presuming here they could have overpowered
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I guess they did. They must
have. They they must have, right,

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Yeah, but like like Maria's husband
went over there and took his three

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children, but they weren't in such
a frenzied state. Yeah, so I

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don't know, he could have been
scared whatever. I don't know. They

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overpowered him, let's just say that, and locked him out. Drosa then

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claimed that Rosie was pregnant with the
Devil's child. Are you serious? M

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hm? And so then Marianne Mercedes
held Rosie down while Drosa put her hand

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in her daughter to try and pull
out the fetus. What the fuck is

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wrong with these people? I'm not
going to go into detail at any point.

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You could have just not what the
fuck? It's it's horrifying, it

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it really is. So Drosa pulls
out Rosie's uterus and intestines. You could

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do that. Yeah, it happened. Oh my god, it happened.

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Yeah, okay, and where was
the dad because obviously that would have been

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a reaction so strong that anybody could
hear, extremely painful. Yeah, and

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you would have known it was from
pain and you would have had to step

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in, Like where was he?
Right, I'm luderine, I don't know.

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So he after this happens, he
broke down the door and Anna was

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with him. At this point,
they called emergency services. I don't know

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what the number is for NAEM one
one. Police and an ambulance they called,

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and the screams coming from the house
were so loud neighbors could hear it.

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I just feel like at any point, even neighbors could have been like,

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what the fuck is going on?
Let's all band together, even the

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first time when he had tried to
step in that first time, Like,

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yeah, if he stepped in because
he heard the screams, yeah, that

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means like neighbors probably heard it also. Yeah, so before police and ambulance

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could arrive, when Anna and his
who's barged in, the three women like

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looked up and so, oh,
we can revive little Rosie, but we

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need Anna's eyes. So then they
like started attacking Anna. This just gets

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worse. So right now, so
Rosie is hurt whatever, probably just laying

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there right uh huh. So then
they're like, we can revive her with

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Anna's eyes. And then the only
saying other sane person here is the dad,

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yes, who couldn't overpower them in
the beginning to help Rosie his daughter?

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Yeah, yeah, okay, yikes, I am already feeling bad for

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Anna's eyes. It's terrible. So
they, you know, jump on her,

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start like beating her, start trying
to clowd her eyes. But she

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manages to escape somehow. I don't
know. Okay, if she could escape,

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why couldn't his suits overpower them earlier? I don't know. Again,

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it doesn't make sense to me.
I don't know. I don't know.

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Yeah, I don't know. By
then, ambulance arrived and police Rosie was

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no longer alive. Oh. By
the time dambulance arrived Rosa Maria Mercedes and

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Hesusannana. They were all arrested at
the same time, but charges towards Anna

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and Hessu's were dropped pretty quickly.
The autopsy revealed that Rosie, of course,

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had never been pregnant, dull because
you know how she said she was

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pregnant with Yeah, she said she
was pregnant with the Satan's child, right,

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and that when Rosa pulled Rosie's intestines
out, it caused her to go

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into hypovolemic shock and that is how
she died. That's what the cause of

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death was. And it was revealed
that she only had her liver and stomach

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left. My god, I guess
Rosa had pulled everything else out. What

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the fuck? Yeah, it's it's
truly disturbing. And so hesusan Anna served

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as witnesses in the trial against Rosa, Maria, and Mercedes. Their trial

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was held on January twenty second,
nineteen ninety two. So two years later,

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the three women were acquitted on the
grounds of insanity. Okay, I

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could see that. I truly believe
they were not in the in the they

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didn't know what they were doing,
I don't think. Yeah, I think

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just from the sound of it,
it was just a complete state of delusion

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and you know what else because that
was so violent, But uh, a

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complete acquittal. And I don't know
what they were doing between those two years.

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I mean, they need help.
Yeah, yeah, they were apparently

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at a psychiatric hospital, it seems, okay, or something like that,

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like in some type of facility.
They were diagnosed with acute psychotic state with

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mental derangement and were sent to a
psychiatric facility a little bit longer. So

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they were acquitted, but they were
still sent to Okay, back to the

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facility in said ruling. So I'm
gonna read the ruling, Okay, So

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instead ruling, the defendants Rosa Gonsalves
Frito were acquitted of the crime of patricide

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and injuries. Maria Los Angeles Rorie
S Espinia was acquitted of the crime of

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murder and injuries, as the court
understands that in both defendants there is a

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complete defense of criminal responsibility for mental
insanity. As for the third defendant,

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Maria Mercedes Rodriguez Espinia, she's acquitted
of the crime of murder as her direct

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participation has not been proven in the
facts. She's also acquitted of the crime

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of injuries due to the defense of
temporary mental disorder. So that was like

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a really fancy way of saying what
I said. Yeah, yeah, I

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just wanted to sound fancy for a
little bit, like a lawyer, you

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know, or like a judge or
like a jury member roup because they have

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like the lead jury person read the
charges, so the foreman an urban jury.

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I skipped it once and I thought
I was time to jail. Yeah,

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this is when I didn't know I
had ADHD and I forgot to go.

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That should have been aside. Yeah. So all three women were released

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after a few years of being at
the psychiatric hospital. I couldn't find exactly

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how long. Maria moved to Valencia
after her release, and Mercedes moved to

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Vayado lead ba yad lead. Yes, I never know if I'm saying that

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city right city in Spain. But
Rosa, I don't know where she moved

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to. But she never returned to
Almanza. Her neighbors said that they would

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kill her if they saw her.
Oh my god, I don't know why

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I'm laughing. It's terrible. It's
terrible. Yeah, it's not terrible.

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And she did do some interviews after
her release with some Spanish channels, and

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there was one interview I watched of
hers where she claims she has already paid

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for what she did through her sentence, she has already served her time at

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the psychiatric facility, and that she
just wishes to be left alone and in

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peace. That every three or four
years, there's a new show that comes

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out to cover what happened that day, what she did, and that she

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has to relive that every time it
happens, and she understands that this is

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how she has to live now.
But it's not fair. She doesn't know

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what happened, why she did any
of it. She doesn't understand, and

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maybe that's her punishment and she regrets
what she did. Those are that's what

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her what she said, and I
mean, like, what can you what

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can you do? Can keep her
keep them in the siiatric facility forever?

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I mean, she's right, she
did do she did pay for her crimes.

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She spent her time in the psychiatric
constitution and if it was true insanity,

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which she was acquitted for that,
so legally it's true. She doesn't

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know. So yeah, yeah,
when when you look at comments on YouTube

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videos covering this or news articles,
there's like, oh, she should have

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gotten the death sentence, she should
be killed, she shouldn't be alive anymore.

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00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:48.000
But like, none of these women
had an abusive history by all cowns.

403
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:53.279
They love their children. Yeah,
and on this day they happened to

404
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:57.319
take a bunch of hallucingenic drugs.
I don't know why, because there was

405
00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:03.519
even no stories of them having done
this before, except they use these plants

406
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.400
and things like that in their healing
services. Yeah, but there was no

407
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.799
history of them whatsoever acting like this, like truly to me as I mean

408
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:18.039
bad as it sounds like, I
don't she already has to live in hell

409
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:21.240
knowing what she did, what she
did, and that she no longer has

410
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:25.039
her daughter or her husband, yeah, or her husband, yeah, because

411
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:27.400
who's gonna stay with I mean,
like you have to be so strong to

412
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:33.079
stay with someone after that, and
I would not who. I don't think

413
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.079
anyone would honestly, No, I
don't know who. Yeah, yeah,

414
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:41.039
And so I don't know, like
what else is there left to do?

415
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:45.240
You can't just throw go around killing
people. And yeah, honestly, I

416
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:49.480
think that they did have true,
true temporary insanity because none of them had

417
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.640
like a history. Yeah, I
mean, nothing else really explains it.

418
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:56.759
I mean they were acquitted. Yeah, it's just it's just a horrible,

419
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.799
horrible thing where the poor little Rose. Yeah, it's you know, the

420
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:06.720
real true victim here, and these
women have to live with what they did,

421
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:10.279
and like, I don't know what
else there is to do, because

422
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.799
I don't think killing them is fair
either. No, And it doesn't take

423
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:18.880
away it doesn't bring Rosie back,
It doesn't take anyone's pain away. Yeah,

424
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:22.519
the death sentence in general, I
don't know most people. A lot

425
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.359
of people are against it, A
lot of people are for it, yeah,

426
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:29.640
but most places don't have it.
Yeah, and there's a reason.

427
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.799
Yeah. And I mean the case
it shook the town like to its core.

428
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:38.880
Yeah, it's I mean it's so
violent, and newspapers release headlines like

429
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:44.440
girl killed in Satanic ritual. But
mmmm, this girl was killed in a

430
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:48.960
religious ritual that was not real.
I mean it's an exorcism. That's not

431
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:52.240
a Satanic ritual, right, it's
like the opposite of that. No,

432
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.599
it's a satanic in the sense that
they're driving Satan out. Yeah. I

433
00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.200
mean, it's just it's just wild
to think what drive someone to that.

434
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.759
I mean, we kind of said
it was insanity, but like how and

435
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.559
why? And I guess we don't
have answers for that. Yeah. I

436
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:10.839
was gonna say the worst thing is
that we will never have answers because they

437
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:15.400
don't even know because it was temporary
insanity, Like, yeah, all they

438
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:19.440
can do is like blame the drugs. But yeah, like it's just horrible.

439
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.039
It's horrible. I didn't even go
like if you want to go into

440
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.880
the detail of how this poor girl
like truly died. Because I didn't go

441
00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:30.880
into details, I almost threw up. I don't see why you would want

442
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:32.359
to do that. Yeah, no, but just look, you can just

443
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:39.000
look it up by what the name
exorcism of Mansa or the extorcism of Roervice,

444
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:44.319
and you can see how it all, like how her intestines and everything

445
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:46.599
was pulled out. It's like truly
gruesome. But yeah, it's just like

446
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:52.119
in the end, nobody, nobody, there's no justice except they served their

447
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:55.480
time. But still it doesn't I
don't know, it just feels it just

448
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:59.200
feels little. I mean, but
what would justice look like? No,

449
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:00.599
yeah, that's what I was gonna
say again because I already said it,

450
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:04.799
like they served their time. Yeah, and so yeah, I'm not gonna

451
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:07.559
keep repeating the same thing. But
yeah, it's just it's just horrible that

452
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:12.079
the things that happened in the name
of exorcisms really or in the name of

453
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:16.440
religion. Oh yeah, yeah,
truly horrible. Yeah, that was horrible.

454
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:21.559
We need a pellet cleanser. This
this brings us to the end of

455
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.160
the episode, and I'm sorry to
put everyone through that. Yeah, that

456
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:29.079
was disturbing. It's a truly disturbing
case. But any what, I expect

457
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:30.759
our most, our worst cases to
come out of Spain. I was gonna

458
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:35.559
say it wasn't there the last time
you talked about in extorcism. Wasn't there

459
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.680
one in Spain? Also? Yeah, but it wasn't as bad as this.

460
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:42.759
It was. Okay, this is
yeah, this is bad. What

461
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.720
that movie Veronica is based on.
That's what we covered last time we did

462
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:49.640
something out of Spain. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah this

463
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:53.240
one. Oh I'm traumatized. Mm
hmmm same. Maybe I'll look for a

464
00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:58.519
friendlier not friendlier, but like a
nicer ghost story next episode. It's been

465
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:01.400
it's been terrible. Okay, how
their case. I'm sorry. Everyone.

466
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:07.320
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467
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But don't worry. If you cannot
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480
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481
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listening to our episodes here, so
thank you for doing that. But before

482
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:36.800
we go, do you have any
spooky recommendations? Nope, I'm still I've

483
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:40.679
been watching Supernatural and married off for
site. Oh you're back to Supernatural?

484
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:44.440
Yeah, that's what I put on
when it's just me at the house and

485
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:47.800
I'm not like doing anything. And
then I've been watching Married he for site.

486
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:52.440
I think season sixteen with my husband. Nice. Nice. I actually

487
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:55.679
do have a speaky recommendation today.
Ooh you know me. You know I

488
00:35:55.719 --> 00:36:00.880
love zombies, and it takes me
a while to find like a zombie movie

489
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:05.360
that I'm entertained by. Usually I
just rewatch all of Us Are Dead or

490
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:07.360
doat of the Dead, or yeah, all of Us are Dead is so

491
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:10.000
good. I thought there was gonna
be a season two. Yeah, what

492
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:13.320
happened with that? I thought there
was gonna be a season two? Also,

493
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:15.639
Yeah, very upsetting that it's not
out there. Yeah. And then

494
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:17.719
they were like, we're gonna make
an American version, and I'm like,

495
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:22.079
no, just give me season two
of the same thing. I don't want

496
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.440
an American version. It won't be
as good. Probably, yeah, no,

497
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:28.760
probably not. But I found a
movie. It's called Valley of the

498
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:32.239
Dead. It's on Netflix. It's
from Spain. Oh, speaking of Spain.

499
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:37.079
Yeah, speaking of Spain. Yes, Valley of the Dead. It's

500
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:44.000
set during World War Two and there's
the you know Spain was fast fastest during

501
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:49.280
Yes, World War two. And
so it's two soldiers from the Fastest like

502
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:53.400
Army, Fastest Spain Army met up
with the anarchists and they have to unite

503
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:58.360
forces to fight the zombies. Wow, it's good. The acting is,

504
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:00.000
because that's the other issue with a
lot of bombie movies that are just like

505
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:05.000
random that I find the acting is
horrendous because they're like B movies or C

506
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:08.480
movies whatever they call them exactly.
But this one the acting good. It

507
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:12.679
has little fuddy moments, but it
also has you know, creepy See.

508
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:15.880
That's what I like scary movies that
the people don't take themselves too seriously because

509
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:19.440
in real life, yes you're scared, but sometimes you can't help but laugh

510
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:22.639
at those situations that you're finding yourself
in. Yeah, there's one scene where

511
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:27.400
they're like they're walking, there's zombies
ahead of them. They're like in one

512
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:29.679
spot trying to figure out what they
do. And then two of the guys,

513
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:31.639
because they're guys, like their soldiers, their men, they start arguing

514
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:37.119
and one of the guys is like
something about how he I don't know,

515
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:38.760
you know, how people have a
comeback with it's like, oh, yeah,

516
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:42.719
well I fucked your mom. Yeah, but the guy says, well,

517
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.400
I fucked your dad, and then
the other guy's like, are you

518
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:51.119
gay? And so yeah, little
more like people have like real human life

519
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:55.639
moments like that in the middle of
a zombie apucalypse, right, So yeah,

520
00:37:55.920 --> 00:38:00.760
and good zombie kills because there's those
are always fun too, And yeah,

521
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:04.400
I mean it's in Spanish, so
if you don't speak Spanish, you

522
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:06.639
could do it with subtitles. But
yeah, I thought it was fun.

523
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:12.079
I like it better because I also
a while ago I ran across a movie

524
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:20.440
set during the Mexican Revolution that these
revolutionaries stumble upon like an acienda and there's

525
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:25.159
these sisters living in this sciena and
then the reason that there are still standing

526
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:30.920
is because they have like their own
herd of zombies. Oh they can resiscitate.

527
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.960
In that movie, it took a
while to get good, but I

528
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:37.400
was like, I'm gonna give this
a real shot because it's a Mexican movie

529
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:42.239
and in zombies, and I mean
I like both of those things, and

530
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:44.480
so that one. At first,
I was like, oh, when is

531
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:46.000
this going to start? But when
it starts, it starts, you know,

532
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:50.159
Oh, okay, something stayed too
long. I don't like that either.

533
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:52.039
Yeah, it took too long,
but this one value is dead.

534
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:57.079
No, it was good from the
beginning, so yeah, I recommend it.

535
00:38:57.199 --> 00:38:59.239
It was good. I'm gonna check
that out. You should, you

536
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.960
should, but yeah, I guess
Now this does bring us to the end

537
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:07.920
of the episode. Yeah, our
new book club. We still have to

538
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:12.920
record the episode because I'm giving people
a chance to reply with their answers if

539
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.239
they want to, so we'll probably
record that next weekend at the time recording,

540
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:21.239
But the next book club book will
be The Vampires of Enorte, which

541
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:24.159
I'm so excited for. I'm excited. Yeah, I've read only good things

542
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:28.719
about it, I mean, but
I also ignore a lot of bad reviews.

543
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:31.280
I haven't heard anything about it.
Actually, I haven't seen people put

544
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:36.639
like post reviews or anything. I
add things on too good Reads, like

545
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:39.280
want to read or read, so
that's when I come across like ratings and

546
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:43.280
stuff. But like I said,
I ignore bad reviews. Anyway, I'm

547
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:47.280
sure I'm gonna like it. Like
I'm positive I accidentally started not accidentally,

548
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:52.519
I started reading it before I had
finished the other one. Oh I forgot

549
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.039
you had it. I got to
chapter two. But like things start happening

550
00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.559
by the end of chapter one,
like, okay, okay, I need

551
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:04.559
to order it. I think I
was designed between the audiobook and the physical

552
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:08.320
book because the last one, and
I listened to the audiobook first and then

553
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:13.239
I read it, and I like
both. So but I can't just keep

554
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.360
buying both. I know, I
think the same thing because I like to

555
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:20.000
have the physical one to go back
for when I write out the plot.

556
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:22.800
But then I don't want to buy
both, you know, like you just

557
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:28.199
said, yeah, it's a struggle. No, the audiobook is just as

558
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:31.480
good as the first one. It
seems they have like two different like voice

559
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:37.039
actors just like so it's like similar
where it's like from two a different point,

560
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:39.199
like a guy and a girl.
Oh yeah, I think so that's

561
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:42.440
what it seemed like. I'm pretty
sure. I don't. I could be

562
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:45.119
remembered remembering wrong, but I'm almost
certain. I mean, we'll find out,

563
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:47.440
because we're going to start reading it. But also don't quote me,

564
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:52.559
but also we'll find out. Yes, so yeah, again that was Vampires

565
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:54.320
of It Northen. And I'll also
send an email out to let people know.

566
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:59.679
I'm also posting the book club questions
and like what book we're reading?

567
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:04.199
Next on Patreon, in the free
version so that everyone can look at it,

568
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:07.280
because you can join Patreon as a
free member, and then you only

569
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:09.719
have access to things that I make
free, and I'm making the book clubs

570
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:15.039
a free So you can either subscribe
to the book club newsletter on subsec,

571
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:16.559
which the link is in the show
notes, or you can do it through

572
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:20.800
Patreon, whatever's easier, because you
can join Patreon as a free member,

573
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:22.960
and then while you're there, maybe
you change your mind, maybe you join,

574
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:28.239
maybe you upgrade to the three dollars
tier or the eight dollar tier where

575
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:30.559
you get bonus stories or a fancy
keychain in the eight dollar tier. That

576
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:35.119
reminds me actually, speaking of Patreon. We'll see how feasible this is because

577
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.360
you know time and we have issue
scheduling. But i do want to start

578
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:43.000
doing a series on Patreon where I
share paranormal news with Carmen. So I've

579
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:46.079
already found some very good headlines,
So that's if you want that. And

580
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:51.960
then Creepy read stories that we read
and react to join the Patreon and now

581
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:53.960
now this is the end. Do
you have anything to plug Carmen. Yeah,

582
00:41:54.199 --> 00:42:00.519
So if you like learning about Latin
American history topics that you knew nothing

583
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:02.599
about, maybe had heard about here
and there, and just would like to

584
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:08.960
learn more about Latin American history topics
about like civil wars, stories of resistance,

585
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:15.239
power, community, sometimes bad stuff
like racism, dictatorships, corruption,

586
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:21.039
US intervention, regime change, that
kind of stuff. Then yeah, Chikaisoda

587
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:27.239
is unknown. And then we also
have Novedakaito where we're we're watching we recap

588
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.079
the episodes and we talked shit along
the way, and then we introduced a

589
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:36.840
new segment with that chronically online and
we it's just talking about internet cheese man.

590
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.599
It's going to become its own podcast
once we finished watching TESA, and

591
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.800
we just look forward to that because
we love talking shit. Yes, yes,

592
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:50.400
we'd love cheesement and internet trends.
So yeah, thank you again Carmen

593
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:55.039
for joining me today and everyone else
I don't know. Don't take that plant

594
00:42:55.199 --> 00:43:00.760
we mentioned in the episode and go
perform exorcisms. Don't do that. If

595
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:04.400
you think someone's possessed, they're not. Just end it right there, send

596
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.719
them to a doctor. Just get
those thoughts out of your head because it's

597
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:10.360
not true except for our listener story, because that was a demon for sure.

598
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:15.039
Not no there is some listener stories
we received that I'm like, Okay,

599
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.679
I know I've been skeptical of possessions, but that sounds like a possession.

600
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:24.760
Send them to the Catholic priests asap. Yeah, yeah, just don't

601
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:29.599
do it yourself is what we're saying. I guess. Basically, no DIY

602
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:35.880
extorcisms. Thank you. That's it, No dey extorcisms. Stay spooky,

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We'll catch everyone next time and bye. Spooky Tales is hosted by Christina and

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MJ, produced and edited by Christina. Everything is written and researched by Christina

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MJ and with the help of Don
Shout Out Don. Thank you so much

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for your help. If if you
love what you hear, consider living us

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a five star review. If you
don't, then do not leave us anything

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please. If you want short spooky
stories, follow us on TikTok at spooky

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Tails. You can also find some
of the same videos posted on Instagram and

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that is at spooky Tails. Everything
is linked in the show notes. If

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you want bonus episodes, stickers,
exclusive stickers, might I add then consider

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joining our Patreon Go over to patreon
dot com slash spooky Tails. There are

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over at least fifteen bonus episodes right
now, and we do at least one

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a month, sometimes two, depending
on how we are feeling. If you

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want to support the podcast and don't
or can't or don't want to, that's

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fine, join the Patreon then consider
getting some merch. We have an adorable

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beanie that I love. I absolutely
adore it. It's so comfy, it's

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warm, it has spooky and old
English letters. There's also a baseball hat

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in the same way as spooky and
Old English letters, and that's what I

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wear in the summers. They're both
awesome hats. And there's other things in

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there, like the no Mama's shirts, which is a very popular shirt.

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If you like history, check out
my other podcast, Istodia's Unknown, hosted

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with the unofficial official guest co host
of A Spooky Tales, Carmen, And

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if you like no VELAs, checkout
Novelaskosito, which Carmen and I also host

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together. And yeah, we love
every single listen every single a spooky Thank

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you so much, Stay as Spooky