Nov. 1, 2024

The Case of Debanhi Escobar and Celebrity Ghost Stories

The Case of Debanhi Escobar and Celebrity Ghost Stories

On the 9 of April 2022, a picture was taken that would end up going viral. In the picture, a young woman standing alone on the side of an empty road. She is wearing a white tank top, a brown flowy skirt and black converse shoes. She has a face mask...

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On the 9 of April 2022, a picture was taken that would end up going viral. In the picture, a young woman standing alone on the side of an empty road. She is wearing a white tank top, a brown flowy skirt and black converse shoes. She has a face mask on, her hair is down and she has her purse. It was taken on the federal highway that goes from Monterrey to Nuevo Laredo. This highway is known as la carretera de la muerte, the highway of death. It’s a 136 mile highway connecting Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas, Monterrey and Nuevo Leon.

The picture that went viral was the last picture ever taken of 18 year old Debanhi Escobar.


In this episode, Carmen reads two paranormal experiences from Latinx celebrities and Cristina shares the devestating case of Debanhi Escobar. Before that, they listen to a listener story and end with spooky recommendations.

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Hi, this is Christina and Carmen. We have an episode today.

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We do we do. Arman is reading some paranormal stories

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by celebrities, which we don't do a lot, so mm hmmm.

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And then I will be talking about a true crime

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case that shook Mexico and after everything was over, they're

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still seeking justice. So it's actually very depressing, really, the

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case of the Bani Escobard. Oh, I think that sounds familiar.

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It should, because well I'll talk about Yeah, we are

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going to talk about it. Also, if anyone's not watching

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the YouTube or hasn't seen our social media posts, Carbon

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and I are almost matching. I have a sweater from

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our old merch store before we switch to the new one.

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It says Day is spooky on it and it's friend

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of black Mine is from what's our website? We could close,

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we could clothing something like that. Oh yeah, I was

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obsessed with them for a while. Yeah, me too. I

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bought you a sweater that's a CEO in hell it

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so much. I accidentally want it to church, not I

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don't go to church. Yeah, I almost bought something yesterday

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from them because I got an email that's out there.

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The whole store was forty percent off, but I wanted sweaters,

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not T shirts, and there was only one sweater I wanted,

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and I was like, well, I am I going to

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make a whole order just for one thing, you know, right?

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You know?

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Yeah it was cute though, but I did forget what

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it's already, but I liked it when I saw it.

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But yeah, mine's serial killer documentaries and chill. So anyway,

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starting with the actual episode, before we get to the

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topics that I just mentioned before we talked about our sweaters,

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we have a listener story, and if you have a

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story that you want to sit into the podcast, you

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can email at Spooky Tales at gmail dot com. You

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can dm us on Instagram. You can call the Spooky hotline.

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The numbers in the show notes and that's actually what

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we're listening to. Oh sorry, one more. You can also

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submit it on Discord. Again, think is in the show notes,

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and so yeah, let's just listen to this story, right,

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hopefully I haven't done it before.

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By oh my god, I love your show so much.

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I listened to it every day. But this is a

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like my second time trying to leave you guys as message,

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and I'll explain why in a little bit. I have

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so many like booky encounterers throughout my life, like that

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was the kids vainly like most of Mychael's stories have

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to do with like my ancestor. But I've seen like

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my great grandparents, like great uncles stuff like that. But

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I've also like encountered other scarier stuff. Like my wife.

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She never used to believe in like paranormal things until

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like she met me, and now she goes like she

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loves the office, so she'll like make them. Michael got

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joke of like I'm not superstitious, I'm a little fishous,

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and she'll say that it's because of me. But recently

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she was having one of her coworkers, and her coworkers

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whulsh like this ghost and how does she have where

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She was like, you don't scratches and stuff. As she

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came home and she asked me and she's like, have

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you noticed anything happening like that at our house? And

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I didn't want to see her, so I can't her. No, No,

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I have myself anything weird at our current place, but

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that's alive. There is I want to say, at least

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two basic sweet entities in the house. One of them

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is like it gives the feminine energy to me, like

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she feels very feminist. And I will see her usually

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like out of the corner of my eye, like if

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I'm in the backroom do my makeup, I'll kind of

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see her lurking uh in the door, like looking in

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towards me. And sometimes like I think, I think it

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is like a bit of more of a child like energy,

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because she does like to say hide and seek, almost

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like people I don't know sometimes feel like a presence

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in a corner her and if I acknowledge it, like

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I'll go like, oh, I know you're there, I see you.

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It's just like disappears, and then the mood feels lighter

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and everything kind of lifts. So she's she's chill. I'm

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okay with her, like she's fine. The other things that

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I feel. And I don't know if it's like the

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same one, like the same girl, or if it's maybe

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another entities. But when we sleep that night, like we

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have two paths and they sleep with us, and I

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will feel like my cat, one of our cats please

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like cut our at my feet and the other one

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thinks that my wife's feet. And at that time, like

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when my cat is coming into bed, like I feel

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her hop on and like I feel the pressure of

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like walking up my legs to go b Now, sometimes

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both of our cats will already be on the bed

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and I will feel that sensation again.

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And it got cut off, But I think this is

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our listener that emailed it later with the mimics story. Yes, yes,

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because they're member the wife and how the wife is

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a little stitious now yes, yeah, and that email they

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mentioned that they had tried leaving a voicemail or a Yeah,

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that's our listener story. I'm not finding anyone. It was

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so cool. Yeah, yeah, it was so fun to listen to.

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And then I have one more. This isn't a listener story.

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This is just like an email that I'm going to

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share because they don't share a story. But are they

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just praising us? Yeah? Okay, So this was titled a

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Tale from La Republica Dominicana, and I was like, what

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do we never hear emails from the Yeah, dr, you

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just said it and I almost forgot. So it's from Juliana.

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She says, Hi, I'm a brand new listener to with

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Pooky Tales. I heard about your podcast from reddite on

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wiki which I totally forgot. We were on it like tweet. Actually,

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I had a lot of fun. It was so fun. Yeah, yeah,

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I thought it was so interesting since I'm a huge

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horror Friand and Latina, so I love the concept. Plus

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it's fall, so it's really hitting. Lol. Listening to your

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first episode about Lassie Whenever, it really remembered me of

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a story my dad used to tell me about Lassie Wapa.

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I don't know a crazy amount of details, but the

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legend goes that she or they, I don't know if

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it's like a species. It's a beautiful woman with long

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black hair and backward feet. She said to be so

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beautiful that men are drawn to her and don't notice

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her feet until it's too late and she's close enough

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to attack and eat them. I wish you more, but

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that's all I really know. Best Juliana, when she catches up,

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she'll uh because you have an episode? No, unless I

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think we mentioned her in some episode, and I had

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an episode on her, not fully on her, I don't

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think so. I think I only mention her briefly. Oh okay,

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I know. I have a TikTok video that's like a

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minute long and I'm basically saying the same thing Juliana

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just said in her email, and now she went like viral,

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and I was like, maybe that's random. Yeah, the most

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random things, like you never know. Yeah, our last hit

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was the Mermaid and thinkuch I knew was going to

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be a hit. I guess I didn't know that was

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so popular. Mermaid videos always do amazing on TikTok, so weird.

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Should we just talk about Mermaids? I'm just kidding. Maybe, No,

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we are talking about celebrity ghost stories. Yeah, That's what

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I'm talking about today. So first up, we have Juanis

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Juanas just can I just say Juanis? I loved him.

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He one of my first crushes. Yeah, oh I didn't

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like him like that. No, I like him and he's cool.

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I loved him in all the ways, his music, his voice,

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and I like it. I love his voice. I am

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not like I don't think he's like attractive, but doesn't

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matter because he's talented, and who cares if one person

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doesn't find you attractive, Like, it doesn't matter, right, right?

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But man, he has all the hits. Yeah, like was

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on repeat in our household. Yeah he has a ghost story. No,

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UFO siding U. Oh my bad. Yes, okay, let's get

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into it. So Kuanas claimed to have seen UFOs in

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twenty twelve, and I guess.

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He wrote it.

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First of all. I guess he has a memoir when

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I need to check that out. I didn't know that. Okay,

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Oh you didn't know. It's called Quanas Chasing the Sun.

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He told me.

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TBR me too.

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So yeah, he wrote about UFO sighting and his memoir

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and he has kept talking about it in the media.

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So he said that he saw the UFO while on

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vacation in Switzerland, Geneva, Switzerland. Okay. Then in twenty thirteen

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he went on a podcast called Soundcheck. There he described

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the incident as life changing and said that he saw

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the lights and the sky that began to shift into

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different figures, and he said that was one of the

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most incredible nights for me because just right before that happened,

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I always thought, well, we're not alone here, definitely not.

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There's something else. There needs to be something else outside,

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and he's right, and that was his validation. And then

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he started cult no, I'm just kidding. And then he

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talked about it again in twenty seventeen with NPR reporter

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Marisa at Bona Luis So. He said, it was one

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o'clock in the morning and I was looking at the

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sky when I saw five big, big lights suspended in

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the air. At first, I thought, maybe these are planes

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that are going to land in the airport. But then

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I realized those lights were static. They started to move

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to the sides and were totally silent, And after ten

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or fifteen minutes, I realized that I was looking at

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something very special from another world. In that day, you know,

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my basis of education and beliefs started to change. Everything

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started to change for me, and I started to understand

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that we're just part of a great, big universe and

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life is more than we think. It is beautiful. And

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then he said, well, he told news outlets that he

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doesn't care reporters or others think he's crazy because he

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knows what he saw. And then in twenty seventeen, he

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also retweeted a video about an increase in UFO siding.

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So he's all in, I'm there with them, and I

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believe him, and I'm done with him, and I would

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take off on a UFO with him. Yeah, I would too, Yeah,

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but not about myself. I wouldn't get on the UFO

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by myself. Why not. I don't want to go alone

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with some creatures that I don't know yet. If you

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were with me, I would also go. If we get

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abducted at the same time, I'd be fine with it.

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If I got abducted alone, I would try to find

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a way out. I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah,

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everything is safer in numbers. Yeah, okay. And next we

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have a duende and ghost sighting from Jenna Ortega, who

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is Latina enough, No she is. I'm not joking. No,

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of course we're not.

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Yeah.

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Also like the Latina screen queen. No, yeah, yeah okay.

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So during the press tour for Beal Juice Too, Jenna

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was asked if she's ever seen a ghost. Jenna admitted

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she's seen ghosts several times she's but there was one

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specific group of ghosts that really scared her. Jenna told

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the interviewer that when she was a child that she

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would hear and see what look like chimpanzee ghosts living

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in her hallways not monkey ghosts, what the fuck? And

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working on a project that looked like a jungle gym wow.

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Finally start having fun. This was what she said. I

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swore that I was seeing ghosts all the time. There

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was like a family that lived in my hallway. I

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saw that there was a family of chimpanzees who were

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building like a jungle jym Wow actress one of my fams,

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Katherine O'Hara, who was at the interview of her, I know,

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I was just watching Shit's Creak too, So she laughed

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at Jenna's story. But Jenna was so scared that she

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she says she was so scared that she once ran

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into her parents' bedroom at night. So a lot of

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people think that these ghosts that she described that are

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like were small chimpanzees. People think that they were doing this.

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This makes way more sense. Oh my god, Okay, yeah,

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and I believe it. Yeah, We've talked about doing this

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plenty of times. But in Latina folklore, doing this are

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gnome like creatures that are known as protectors of their home.

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Are also little mischievous, and they are believed to live

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in the walls of homes, especially in the bedroom of children.

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And the word doing that comes from the phrase dueno

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casa and doing this are especially known to be fond

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of little girls. Oh okay that I didn't know. Yeah,

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I don't think I've heard that before. I think just

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like all little kids. Yeah, especially unbaptized ones, is what

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I've heard. My children know, My God. Also, the more

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you say, if you say doing this, you're invoking them,

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we don't want not welcome here, Okay, you're not okay, okay.

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And some Latina folklore even says that doing this they clean,

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repair and work at night, which might be what Jenna saw,

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like why she thought they were working on some kind

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of project. And then on a less crippier note, although

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I don't I don't personally find the one that's to

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be scary, But that doesn't mean they're welcome here. That

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doesn't mean I want to see one, so yeah. Jenna

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also added that she once saw her grandfather's ghost wearing

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an outfit that she had never seen him wear while

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he was alive, and when she told her mom about

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the sighting, her mom dug up a photo of Jenna's

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grandfather wearing that outfit that she had described. Oh my god. Yeah,

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And then she later said that her siblings knew her

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as the sibling who would see ghosts. Oh okay, like

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our brother Wow. Yeah, and that was the end of

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the celebrity ghost paranormal UFO sightings. How fun for us,

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Probably not for them. Well no, whannas love seeing UFOs? Okay,

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so yeah, I think the only one that really creeped

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Jenna out was a dude is not her grandpa or whatever. Yeah,

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but how cool? This reminds me. It reminds you a

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lot of things. So the duende reminded me that the

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only time I have ever been scared of doing this

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was reading the one the story in Oa by.

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Oh.

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I still have to get to that one. That one

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is terrifying, Like I've never pictured them like that, and

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I was still fucking scared reading that story. The doing

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this story from whatever episodes that our friend Vanessa was on.

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So I think it's you're you weren't with us yet,

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you were, you were only guesting once in a while.

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So this episode was me MJ and then our guest

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and we were talking about the kids that went missing

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in the Amazon. Oh yeah, and then she also shared

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another one, the story of her own. That story really

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creeped me out. I guess it's just one of those

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things like there, I think everyone has a creature other

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like I wouldn't really care if I saw that. That's

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me with doing this, bro. Yeah, but I still don't

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want to see one. No, No, that doesn't mean they're

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welcome here. Yeah, no, I was gonna say that. A

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couple of weeks ago, I listened to aiden s Thos

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episode with Loko Radio, two of our fames, and they

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talked about this and it was such a good episode

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and the ASA said she so she had of one there. Yeah,

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I heard that. Also. There's like some stories and some

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stories are downright terrible, like in one of our early

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dun the episodes, I shared the Legend of Latierra, which

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takes place in Tabasco, Mexico. And in the story, this

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family tries to move into this farm and then their

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chickens start acting weird as fuck, and they're like, next

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are snapped, the chickens, next are snapped, Like first the

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chickens are acting weird, then the chickens and chicks all

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like start dying. Their next are snapped, Like someone is

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doing this. They go to like a qurandero or like

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a local you know, spiritual leader, and this person tells

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them like, oh this is not a curse, like these

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are done this you moved into the land of Duendes

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and they're reclaiming their land back land back, and the

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Dunde took the land back. The family had to fight

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in the dun this. Now nobody lives there. Nobody lives

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there but the one this, so that that they're scary

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on that. But then there's other stories that you know,

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if you buy like a little figure and you like

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give it offerings, then you have good luck. Or like

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if you leave, if you have like Drano and you

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put offerings for the one this, they'll do your your

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farm work. Yeah, and that sounds nice? Does if a

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one they could do my editing?

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Wow?

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Imagine that. Yeah, I'll take you to my andishes. But

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then you know, will you be taking advantage of the

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one this, Like is it going to be you know

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that type of thing? Would we be exploiting them here?

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Right? Yeah?

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But yeah that actually Jenner or Tegasine and not monkeys

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makes so much more sense. Yeah. Okay, Well we'll take

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a little ad break here and then when we come back,

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all right. So, like I said, you only beginning, and

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my part's very depression. You shorted, So I'm going to

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be talking about the case of Devanni Escobard and so

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On the ninth of April twenty twenty two, a picture

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was taken that while would end up going viral and

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you might remember the picture as I'm describing it. But

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I'll also put I'll post the picture and I'll also

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share it in the on the screen here right now.

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But in the picture, a young woman is standing alone

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on the side of the road. The road is empty,

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it's nighttime. She's wearing a white tank top, a brown

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flowy skirt, in black converse shoes. She has a mask on,

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like a black face mask. Now her hair is down,

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she's got her purse, and she's alone. This picture was

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taken on the federal highway that goes from Monterrey to

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Novo Laedo, and this highway is known as La la Muerte,

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the Highway of Death. And I mean it's a one

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hundred and thirty six mile highway that connects Novo Laredo

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Tapas Monterevo Leone. And if you know anything about Mexico,

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you know that this is a really dangerous, dangerous area.

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It's like where the drug cartels are, like in constant

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like war highway. Basically, yeah, it's their highway. That's why

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it has this name. It's one of the most violent

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areas and so that's where she was this picture was taken.

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She's by herself. That picture that went viral that I

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just described is the last picture ever taken of eighteen

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year old Devani Escobar. Oh wow, and that's why it

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went so viral. But Devani Susanna Escobar basal Dua was

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born September fourth, two thousand and three, in Monterrain, Babo Leone.

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She was raised by her Theos Mario Escobar and the

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Lorees Basaldua. They adopted her when she was one year

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and four months old. They all lived together in La

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Colonia in Ramada, in Apodaca, Novo Leon. Like I said,

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she was eighteen, she was a law student at La

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Niversidad Automa. Then her adoptive dad, you know her dad,

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he was actually a lawyer himself. So she's following it footsteps.

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And according to her parents, she was kind, loving and pathetic, responsible.

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She always did great in school and she wanted to

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become a lawyer one like her father, but also to

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help women, specifically in Mexico. Just a few weeks before

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she went missing, she was at a protest for women's

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rates and against gender violence, and this is something she

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was passionate about, outspoken about yeah, to stand up against

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you know, the femicides, and yeah, one of the reasons

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why she wanted to become a lawyer. And so on

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the night of April eighth, twenty twenty two, De Bunny

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went out with two friends, Sarai, who she had met

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just three months before all this happened, and then Yvon

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who she actually met that night. They were party hopping,

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as you know people tend to do, you know, they're

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having fun. They're eighteen. Actually I don't know the other

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two ages. I tried to find them, and I don't

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know how old they are, but I think they're all

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within the same ages, probably similar. Yeah, yeah, so yeah,

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just as one does party hopping, just you know, looking

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for a good time. And there's surveillance footage of them

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buying some vodka at a store on the street San Nicholas,

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and so that was their first stop before they went

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to the party. They were planning on attending the original party.

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So they were at this party for a bit, then

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they tried walking to another nearby party, and then they

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tried to go to a third party. That third party

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was pretty much over, so they got a ride to

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a different party they heard about, and this party was

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in La Colonia Nova Castilla. The other parties that had

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just been walking to and from, but this last party

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that they were going to go to, they needed a

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ride to it. It was further away, so they got

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on the app Thedi, which if you've been to Mexico

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you've probably used it.

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I have it.

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It's like Uber. Yeah, So it was a d D

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driver that took them there. After he took them there,

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he gave them his phone number and said, I'm available

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if you need more rides tonight. I'm working all night.

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So basically telling them, like, you know, call me my number,

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don't do it through the app. Why, I don't know,

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it's weird to me.

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Yeah.

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Once they got to that party, after they were dropped

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off by the d D driver, that party was pretty

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much over. People were leaving. It was just it was dead.

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So they noticed a few blocks ahead of where they

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were at there was another party going on at a

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place called Quinta el Jamante. And this I think it's

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some in some reports or some podcasts, it's it was

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called like a club. It's not a club, it's a venue.

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So it's a public venue people rented out and that's

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what it is. So there was yeah, so much private

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party going on, non like a public club type thing.

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So they were heading to Quinta el Jamante. They met

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there with some boys they met party hopping prior to this, oh,

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like another night or earlier that night, earlier that night. Okay, gotcha, gotcha.

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None of them knew anyone at this party though, but

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they were let in and you can see all this

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on video of them arriving to the party, then waiting

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to be let in, and then then finally being let in.

443
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They stayed there until almost three fifty am in the morning,

444
00:23:56.880 --> 00:23:59.319
and there seemed to be some sort of problem inside

445
00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:03.640
the party with the Banni because there's footage of her

446
00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:06.799
running outside of the party and then like a young

447
00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:10.559
man follows her and it looks like they're arguing and

448
00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:12.839
he's like grabbing at her, maybe trying to take her

449
00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:14.839
back to the party. This is unsure because it's like

450
00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:18.359
video surveillance, like recording from far away and you can't

451
00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:21.000
hear anything, but he's grabbing at her and she hits

452
00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:25.240
him away. Then they're joined by Sadai and some of

453
00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:28.799
the other guys, and then there's her devanny and the

454
00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:31.759
guy that went out first, we're still fighting. Apparently the

455
00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:34.759
Bani bit him at some point, but like we don't

456
00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:37.559
know why or what happened. This was around three forty

457
00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:41.480
five am, so even before this, her friends would later

458
00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:44.799
say that Devani was out of control and starting fights,

459
00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:46.880
and that some people were trying to take her away,

460
00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:49.200
like to take her home because she was out of control,

461
00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:52.839
and Sadai and Ivone didn't trust these people, and so

462
00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:55.680
at three twenty nine AM and three thirty six am,

463
00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:59.519
they sent messages to that Davy driver that dropped them

464
00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:03.759
off at the party. They sent him a message, two messages,

465
00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:07.000
asking him to come get the bunny, to take the

466
00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:10.200
bunny home. So after they sent those messages, apparently she

467
00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:12.680
was already acting like this inside. That's when they send

468
00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:15.240
the messages. And then after that is when she's seen

469
00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:18.079
on video footage running outside and the guy runs after

470
00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:20.559
her and she kind of hits him and writes him.

471
00:25:20.759 --> 00:25:23.640
And then just a few minutes later, at three fifty

472
00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:28.480
four Kwan the d d driver arrives. So I don't know,

473
00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:30.599
I mean he must be working in the area because

474
00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:34.240
that's like that's really fast. Yeah, So he arrives. Video

475
00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:38.119
surveillance captures the bunny entering his car by herself. Her

476
00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:40.640
friends get in another car that belonged to one of

477
00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:43.119
the guys they met that night. And I mean, at

478
00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:46.400
this point, you might be wondering why two friends would

479
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:49.039
send their drunk friend alone with that d D driver

480
00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:52.279
they just met, who they didn't contract through the app

481
00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:56.359
they sent him a message. Yeah, I was wondering this too, because,

482
00:25:56.400 --> 00:25:59.720
like I mean, I've had my shot of very drunk nights.

483
00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:02.960
What's I mean that I you know, didn't know for

484
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:05.319
a long time or something that were longtime friends, right,

485
00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:08.400
But like at that point, if you're in that state,

486
00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:11.200
like your life is in their hands, right, Yeah, you

487
00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:12.839
don't know what could happen to you. Like if I

488
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:15.000
don't have safe friends around, I don't know where I

489
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:18.680
would be because I mean sadly, I mean during my

490
00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:20.400
time in the Army, I don't know how many times

491
00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:22.319
I got black out drunk, like every weekend. I don't

492
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:25.000
remember anything, But I've always made it back safe because

493
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:27.119
the people that were with me to care me. Yeah,

494
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:29.279
and I would do the same once I stopped drinking.

495
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:32.400
And you know, yeah, and yes, I mean some of

496
00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:35.039
your friends get a little violand but I wouldn't. I

497
00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:38.559
wouldn't leave them. I will say that sometimes some people

498
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:42.920
get so hardheaded about wanting to either leave or you

499
00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:45.480
know what I mean that there's nothing short of tying

500
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:48.240
them up that you can do to stop them. And

501
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:51.839
I mean that's true, fully know. So yeah, and they

502
00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:55.440
you know, presumably they were young naive girls too, So

503
00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:58.799
I don't know that's true. Like you, you hope your

504
00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:01.680
friends around you know about it, especially at that age

505
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:04.640
when you're like drinking that much. But some people don't.

506
00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:07.079
So that's true. That's good. It's not their fault. It's

507
00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:11.079
the people that are out there doing right at things. Yeah,

508
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.319
well you say that now, but oh no I speak

509
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:20.160
to Oh my god, okay, I just want to fine, Okay,

510
00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:22.880
So no, but those are good points to bring up

511
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:25.920
because those things are also true. Like regardless of these

512
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.240
two friends who just threw her in that deity driver's

513
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:31.559
car and were like, all right, take her home without

514
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:33.960
doing it at least through the app, I will say too,

515
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:36.720
like when it's that late and like everyone like if

516
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:38.200
I have I had a friend like that, I'm like,

517
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:40.240
I'm just going to go home to with them. So yeah,

518
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:41.480
it's like okay, I don't.

519
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:41.960
I don't know.

520
00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:45.000
I'm just going right, So, you know, I wondered that too,

521
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:47.000
like why would they do that? So at first they

522
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.279
didn't say anything as to why they did this. Later

523
00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:51.519
they would say, oh, she wanted to go home alone.

524
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:54.519
It seemed like they wanted to leave with the guys

525
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:57.119
they met, and maybe she didn't want to and they

526
00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:00.839
wanted to, you know, maybe so. And later they would

527
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.039
say it's because she was out of control, drunk violin

528
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:04.880
and they were scared of her and they just didn't

529
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:07.119
want to deal with it anymore. At four twenty six

530
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:10.559
am said, I received a message from the DD driver

531
00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:13.160
and it was the picture that I mentioned, the one

532
00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:15.880
that went viral where she's standing alone on the side

533
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:19.000
of the road on that highway that's very dangerous. The

534
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:21.079
picture was sent from the d D driver and he

535
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:23.640
told her that de Bunny was being super violent and

536
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:25.799
aggressive and that she just got out of the car.

537
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:27.759
He didn't know why, and she didn't want to get

538
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:29.640
back in. He didn't know what to do, so he

539
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:32.680
took the picture to show them she was alive and

540
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:35.839
that she had exited the car, and that's why he

541
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:38.079
took the picture. And sent it said. I asked him

542
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:40.079
to call the police, and he was like, well, I'm

543
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:42.640
not in the area anymore because I'm working, Like so

544
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:47.559
he just left and again I'm like why, Yeah, why

545
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:50.720
did you get out? There were so many points here

546
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:53.079
that if that is what she had done, got out

547
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:56.759
of the car, like something more could have been done, right,

548
00:28:57.079 --> 00:28:59.920
So they asked him to go back to the area

549
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:02.200
to check on her, and he did, but when he

550
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:04.680
got there, she was nowhere to be seen, as he said,

551
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:10.240
And the girls said, I and Yvonne tried calling Devanes's

552
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:13.039
parents and they didn't answer any of the calls. But

553
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:16.519
it s nighttime, they're sleeping. Yeah, presumably this is not

554
00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:19.079
the first time she goes out. What is it like

555
00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:21.400
four or five in the morning now or one? Yeah,

556
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:24.079
like she you know, she's gonna have her fun. They're

557
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:26.960
not up worrying about it. Maybe at first they were,

558
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:30.680
but now they're just they're asleep. It's very late slash early.

559
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:34.400
So yeah, they never answered their phones. So and the girls,

560
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:36.880
I think they tried calling two to five times is

561
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:39.640
what I read like varying things that they tried calling

562
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:43.160
her parents, Although I'm like, why didn't they call the police. Yeah,

563
00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:46.440
it is my other question among many questions that will

564
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:50.880
arise through this case. So they tried calling their parents,

565
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:53.319
they didn't answer. The driver told the girls that he

566
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.400
had offered to charge Devanny's phone so that she could

567
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:58.920
call her mom, and that Devannie didn't want to. Then

568
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:01.759
her friends tried calling her dad again, he didn't answer.

569
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.480
So then this is when they stopped trying to call

570
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:07.480
the parents. They also stopped, you know, communicating with the

571
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.079
Deity driver. This was now around five am when they

572
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:14.039
went to sleep whatever. When they woke up that same day,

573
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:16.599
they were able to get a hold of her dad

574
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:19.079
and they told her what had happened. That the Bannie

575
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:21.759
was left on this road alone, and that they had

576
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:23.720
received the picture from the DDY driver, but when he

577
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:26.519
went back, he didn't find her. And I just, I

578
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:30.480
just I keep thinking they could have contacted the police

579
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:32.799
for at least like a wellness check, like, hey, I

580
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:34.079
left her on the side of the road, I don't

581
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:36.440
see her anymore, can you just go check? Yeah, I

582
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:40.079
don't know, but that never happened. Once her parents learned

583
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:43.799
about what happened, they went to the police. Surprisingly, police

584
00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:46.799
acted right away and they started a search. Let me

585
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:49.119
go back a little bit. The family went through the

586
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.960
Banni's Instagram like account to kind of repeace what happened

587
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:56.240
that night and the area she was in, and they

588
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:59.759
started searching that area and then contacted police and police

589
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.880
search the official search began, but the family was already

590
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:05.000
in the area trying to find her, and then the

591
00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:08.440
official search began, but it was still it was very fast,

592
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:12.680
like that afternoon of the ninth, they were already searching

593
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:15.160
for her. And so once the search for her began

594
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.079
on this you know her last and wereabouts during that search.

595
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:23.680
That same day they found another missing woman, Maria fed

596
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:27.359
Nanda Gontreras, who had been missing since April third. She

597
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:29.400
was twenty seven years old. So they found her, but

598
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:31.599
still no sign of the money. And then over the

599
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:35.440
next six days, five more missing women, girls and girls

600
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:40.599
were found. Wow, on this highway alone, which is it's

601
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:44.920
just it's so sad and depressing and also infuriating because

602
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:47.559
it's like, well, who was searching for them before? Yeah,

603
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:53.799
they were IDme Ernandez Cruz, Jennifer Nicole almguer Iningrid, Guadalupe

604
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:58.319
Castillo and Irlanda Marcella Ramirez Martinez and they were between

605
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:03.400
fourteen and nineteen years Oh my god, so young. Yeah. Yeah,

606
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:06.119
I mean it's so sad and they just I don't know,

607
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:10.480
like I personally, like even from just this first part

608
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:12.640
of reading the details, and like when I was writing,

609
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.039
before I got past all this, I'm like, why would

610
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:18.920
the d D driver or leaver there? Like yeah, but

611
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:22.559
it's like he obviously didn't care or have her best

612
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:27.720
interests in for in the beginning. Yeah, I mean, you

613
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:31.200
would hope that a stranger would care, you know, but

614
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:34.119
I feel like the people close to you, like your friends,

615
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:39.119
have more, should have more. Wait, I guess I don't

616
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:39.720
know what the word is.

617
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:40.000
More.

618
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:42.440
Yeah, you know, like they should care more, like they

619
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:45.920
should cared more have Yeah. Yeah, Like it's it's on

620
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:49.359
a lot of people, not only the friends, not only

621
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:53.119
the driver. Yeah. Yeah, people just they didn't do what

622
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.559
they should have done, right, right because at the very

623
00:32:56.680 --> 00:32:59.079
least called the police to check on her that night,

624
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.599
and yeah, you know if they if the police didn't

625
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:03.480
and they waited, then okay, it would be on them,

626
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:07.160
yeah at that point, but they weren't contact you should

627
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:10.839
you should care and be worried about someone you see

628
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:13.079
in this state? Like I know we're saying like, oh,

629
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:15.160
like it's on them, like it's not about who it's

630
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:18.680
on and like to do stuff to absolve yourself of guilt, right,

631
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:22.200
although people do act like that, you know what I mean,

632
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.559
Like it is what it is, human nature or whatever.

633
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:28.079
But like if you see someone in this condition, like

634
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:30.799
it should worry you and something in you should be like,

635
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:32.960
oh I should help them so that they don't, you know,

636
00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:39.119
get in danger or something. And that didn't happen here exactly. Yeah,

637
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:44.680
multiple yeah, multiple times. So I just shared the other ages,

638
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:47.480
which yeah, we're all super young. All five six women

639
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:50.480
that were found during the search for the buddy, which

640
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:53.119
like sometimes you hear like when Gaby Petito when all

641
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:57.839
that happened, was another three Yeah, I don't remember the

642
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:01.720
exact number, but yeah, yeah, other people were found. So

643
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:03.839
it's like it's just a similar thing where it's like,

644
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:10.280
why weren't they searching before? Yeah, But so on April twelfth,

645
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:14.119
twenty twenty two, the Diddy driver was found and arrested

646
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:16.480
but then released, so they like they're like, oh, he

647
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:19.119
obviously it doesn't have anything to do with this, yeah

648
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:22.519
if they let him go, right, And then on the

649
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:26.880
eighteenth of April, video surveillance from nearby businesses were analyzed

650
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:29.920
and they found footage of the bunny she was seeing

651
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:33.320
walking along the road looking for the first place I

652
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:36.679
was open, probably trying to find help. Yeah again her

653
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:42.440
phone is dead. So security footage from a transportation company

654
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:47.000
called Alcosa shows the bunny approaching the security booth of

655
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:51.320
that company at four twenty nine am, and for unknown reasons,

656
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:54.760
she leaves this building. So I maybe no one was

657
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:57.519
at the security booth, Like, no one knows why this happened.

658
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.719
It's just she's seen entering, she's seen leaving. She doesn't

659
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:03.119
go back to that area again. A few minutes later

660
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:06.480
after that, a camera captures her running into the entrance

661
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:10.199
of a complex of several buildings, which include a restaurant

662
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:13.039
that has been closed for years and then the Leva

663
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:18.440
Casilla Motel. And so she's seen running into an area

664
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:22.159
that opens to a garden and a swimming pool, and

665
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:25.360
no one knows why she's running like to this day,

666
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:27.920
that information has not been found. If it's known, it

667
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:31.320
hasn't been made public. But she is running for some

668
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:36.559
reason in this video, and it's also unclear how she

669
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:40.360
even got in this area because like so it's kind

670
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:44.320
of walled off, like the closed restaurant is back there.

671
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.360
And then and then there's a pool area with some

672
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:51.639
cisterns like water tanks. That area is closed off the

673
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:55.719
mold the pool and there's like a wall. Basically gotcha.

674
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:59.159
So after she's seen looking into the empty restaurant, then

675
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:03.039
she's seen in the swimming pool area, and it's like

676
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:06.199
she would have if she's back there, she would have

677
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:09.239
had to go through the motel. Oh okay to get

678
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:12.920
back there, because either that or climbed the wall, but

679
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.880
like it's a hard hin to climb. Apparently there's three

680
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:20.039
water tanks in the pool in that back area. When

681
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:23.199
investigators tried to get video surveillance from the motel, the

682
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:26.000
motel said that their cameras didn't work. They're just like

683
00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:30.320
fake cameras that don't like record, they're just there for appearances.

684
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:34.719
That was a lie, it's the fig. Yeah. So three

685
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:38.079
weeks after this, they were able to obtain video surveillance

686
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:41.760
from the motel, but what was on that video has

687
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:44.000
not been made public. We don't know what's on there.

688
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:47.920
Separate cameras did see her approaching the restaurant at four

689
00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:50.960
thirty six am. And then that same camera shows her

690
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:52.760
in that pool area that's in the back that I

691
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:57.239
was mentioning at four fifty six am. And again it

692
00:36:57.400 --> 00:36:59.400
would seem like she had to go through the motel

693
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.960
to get to that area because the wall is hard

694
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:05.119
to climb, and it's like knowing that, and then that

695
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:08.400
the motel tried to hide their video footage it it

696
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:13.039
appears more that's sketchy. Yeah, yeah, it's not a good look.

697
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:16.880
So with this new found footage, it was finally revealed

698
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:19.159
why the bunny left the taxi in the first place.

699
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:22.119
The car was in a taxi because it's a person's

700
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:22.719
personal car.

701
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:23.079
Yeah.

702
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:27.159
The footage that was you know, found, It showed that

703
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:31.159
the d D driver was reaching back trying to grab her,

704
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:35.519
like fondle her. Yes, oh my god, that's why she

705
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:39.360
left the car of course. And wow, at first I

706
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:41.599
was like, okay, like I don't know, he should have

707
00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:44.639
done you know whatever. But that's why he didn't call

708
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.800
for help, because he was just trying to take advantage

709
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.880
of her exactly. It would have been incriminating. But this

710
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:53.760
is why you don't send off your drunk friend with

711
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:57.559
the man a stranger. Yeah, plus the fact that they

712
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:00.840
didn't they didn't get the riot through the app. They

713
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:03.400
just called him. Yeah, because if you get it through

714
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:06.800
the app, the app can look, we'll locate, we'll keep

715
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:09.159
track of where the car is, the car stops, it

716
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:13.400
tracks all of it. Well, that's why he offered his number. Yeah,

717
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:16.119
Like that's what they do on purpose, and why you

718
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:19.159
should not do that kind of stuff. Like sometimes I'll say, oh,

719
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:22.559
like I'll do it for cheaper, blah blah, But there's

720
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:24.599
a reason they want to be off the record, like

721
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:29.280
not trackable, you know. Yeah. And so now when I

722
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.559
got to this, I'm like, oh my god, that's why.

723
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:35.199
That's why. Yeah, he didn't call the police. Who knows

724
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:37.480
if it went even went back to check on her,

725
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:38.239
probably not.

726
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:38.639
So.

727
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:42.760
Yeah, he had tried to sexually assault her. That's that's

728
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:44.960
why she left. He's seen trying to grow her breast

729
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:47.000
in the video and then she runs out of the car.

730
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:49.039
But he went and was like lying and like, oh,

731
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:51.880
she was just acting violent and that's why she just

732
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:54.039
she wouldn't listen and she just got out of the car.

733
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:55.920
But the whole time trying to make her seem like

734
00:38:55.960 --> 00:39:02.199
a crazy, hysterical woman exactly exactly time. Unfortunately. Yeah, and

735
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:05.440
so you know, they have this song video that's he's

736
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:08.880
clearly doing this. But when her father wanted to press

737
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:12.519
charges against the TD driver, the police said that despite

738
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:14.760
having footage of the attack, they couldn't do anything because

739
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:16.679
the bunny was the one who had to press charges

740
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:18.559
for the sexual assault. I was going to attempt that

741
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:21.440
right now. Yeah, like you could impress charges on her behalf,

742
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:25.199
which it's like, okay, well she's missing. Yeah, And also

743
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:29.079
at that point, I feel like, and indirectly, this is

744
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:32.320
the cause of her death. She wouldn't have if he

745
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:34.719
just took her home, she would have gotten home. Yeah,

746
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.159
instead he I don't know if there's a leader to

747
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:41.039
sew her way, And apparently there was no legal way

748
00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:42.679
to charge him with I was gonna say this was

749
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:46.920
probably not Yeah, their fucking should be because she would

750
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:50.280
have been fine otherwise. But that would open a sketchy

751
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:53.559
But yeah, you're right. Like I think a lot of

752
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:56.400
times when people talk about crime, they're like the buck

753
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:58.719
at them this and that, right, But like a lot

754
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:00.880
of times I think we need to think about, like

755
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:04.480
these laws would apply to everybody putting in some people,

756
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:08.119
you know, who would have a state and a law

757
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:10.920
enforcement with all this power, and people don't have as

758
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:13.519
much power to defend themselves against like things like that.

759
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:15.960
So yeah, it would open that can of worms. That

760
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:20.800
wouldn't be good, right, right for civil liberties for everyone else.

761
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:24.159
But it's like it's also very infergurating that they have

762
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:26.679
evidence of him trying to sell her and they can't

763
00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:30.000
even press charges for that. Yeah, and maybe she was

764
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:32.519
a minor, you know, they could have maybe you know,

765
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:35.639
may yeah I think that maybe, yeah, maybe that would

766
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:37.400
have been the case. But yeah, she was eighteen, but

767
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.519
there's a certain age I think of teenage when the

768
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:42.599
parent when they had to be the ones that want

769
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:44.119
to press if I'm remembering right, but I'm not sure

770
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:46.599
it could be different. Also went to Mexico, Yeah, because

771
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:52.519
if you if you recall the case of Marcella Escobo,

772
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:56.239
they wanted to press charges on her former employee that

773
00:40:56.440 --> 00:41:00.760
groomed her daughter, and they couldn't because she was like

774
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:03.239
above thirteen or something, and she had to be the

775
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:06.000
one to press charges. Yeah. Yeah, so their hands were

776
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:09.280
tied and her her like, you know, her parents are

777
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:12.280
seeing this and they're like, this is the reason she died, yeah,

778
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:16.920
which is it's tough. It's tough. So a team of

779
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:20.119
two hundred officers and volunteers searched this area for her

780
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:23.719
on four separate occasions. And this is also the same

781
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:26.920
area that her phone last peamed, right by the motel

782
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.280
restaurant area, and this is where they focused the search

783
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:33.000
for her. But they were coming up empty handed until

784
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:36.559
the twenty first of April twenty twenty two, and investigators

785
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:39.639
received a call from motel employees that there was a smell,

786
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:44.079
like a horrible smell coming from somewhere. Oh no, yeah,

787
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:47.199
So they searched the area again and the bunny was

788
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:49.719
found dead in the bottom of one of the three

789
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:53.440
water tanks, the cisterns. Why didn't they look there as

790
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:56.480
soon as you mentioned them? It made me like it

791
00:41:56.559 --> 00:42:00.199
reminded me of the Cecil Hotel. Yes, I thought of

792
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:01.800
that too. Yeah, I made me think of that. And

793
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:04.599
I'm like, well, like, why didn't they look there? Yeah?

794
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.320
I don't know. And presumably they did, I don't know,

795
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:10.199
or they just missed it. The lids were closed and

796
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:12.960
they didn't open them. I don't know. Maybe, so they

797
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:14.800
found her in the bottom of one of those three

798
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:18.559
water tanks. She was so badly decomposed that her father

799
00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:21.920
had to identify her by the crucifix that she was wearing,

800
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:24.719
like the necklace, and then the clothes, like they matched

801
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:27.559
the clothes, and then later it was confirmed via DNA,

802
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:31.880
but she was unrecognizable. And then the autopsy found that

803
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:37.159
she had been there in between five to thirteen days. Really, well,

804
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:39.440
why do I think more time had passed? Yeah, And

805
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:42.239
they couldn't pinpoint it closer than that because of the

806
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:46.880
state of how she was found. So they said her

807
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:50.800
cause of death was a profound contusion to the skull, so,

808
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:54.679
you know, a really bad bruise. Really yeah. And then

809
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:58.199
her death was ruled an accident. I was gonna say,

810
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:01.079
if she was drunk, she could have fallen also, yeah,

811
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:04.599
you know, they ruled her at an accident. The prosecutor's

812
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.599
office suggested her that she fell into the cistern by herself.

813
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:10.880
Doesn't make sense. But there was no water found in

814
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:14.880
her lungs. Oh wow, So how do they explain that?

815
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:18.760
They don't? I guess the water inside the water tank

816
00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:21.599
is three feet high. Oh okay, I was gonna say, well,

817
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:24.559
could they say that it's because she hit her head,

818
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:27.519
not because she drowned. That's rather it's no watering her lungs.

819
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:29.519
That is what they said. They said she hit her

820
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.920
head on the way in Okay, and that was the

821
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:35.480
cause of her death, and so when she died, she

822
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:38.400
was already dead when she was in the water, imagined

823
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:42.559
in the bottom. That's their version of events. But her

824
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:45.400
purse and bra were found in one of the other

825
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.360
water tanks, and then her keys and phone in a

826
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:56.320
different water tank. Is then more nefarious? Yeah, like, okay,

827
00:43:56.599 --> 00:43:58.760
if she accidently fell in why are her things and

828
00:43:58.840 --> 00:43:59.519
separate tanks?

829
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:00.239
Yeah?

830
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:03.800
No, that makes sense. Yeah. Did they get them by themselves?

831
00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:08.440
Did they accidentally fall into Yeah? And her bra was off, yeah,

832
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:11.840
makes it worse. Yeah. Her family did not accept this

833
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:14.559
version of events. I don't blame them. I wouldn't either.

834
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:17.840
I don't I it doesn't make sense. And they had

835
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:20.400
the same questions for one dream, why were her stuff

836
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:23.280
in separate tanks? Why was she not found during the

837
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:26.880
other four searches. Well, two of the searches were specifically

838
00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:29.679
in the restaurant and in this exact area. The other

839
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:34.119
two searches were like more abroad, but twice this pool

840
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.599
water tink area was searched. Also, do we know for

841
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:41.480
sure that they like looked insign. There was one interview

842
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:44.880
I saw where the whoever does the interview for like police,

843
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:49.800
the like media. Yeah, I was thinking of christ press.

844
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:53.599
The press statement is that it? Yeah, press release?

845
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:53.960
Is it?

846
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:57.000
I think it's a press release. Yeah. So there was

847
00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:59.519
you know one where I saw that they said it

848
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:03.000
was and if they opened the lids, they wouldn't have

849
00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:04.639
been able to see her because it was so dark

850
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:10.800
the lights. Yeah, exactly, doing in the dark, of course

851
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:12.760
you're gonna have fun. That does not make any sense.

852
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:15.239
It doesn't It doesn't add up. It doesn't add up

853
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:17.079
at all. But then what is the What is the

854
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:19.119
point is because they don't want to do an actual

855
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:20.960
visation because they don't want to find out to choose

856
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:22.719
because they might I don't know. I don't want to

857
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:25.719
be too speculative because that's like people into gray areas,

858
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:29.079
like when you speculate too much, right, right, But it's

859
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:32.039
like I think if they admitted that the search was wrong,

860
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:36.280
they're admitting their incompetency, right, Okay, Yeah, that makes sense.

861
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:39.840
I think that's it. Yeah, I don't know again, this

862
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:42.400
is like I don't want to speculate, like I highly

863
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:45.480
doubt there's some crazy conspiracy theory where like they're covering

864
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:48.000
someone up, covering for someone, but it does these things

865
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:50.320
have happened before. I was gonna saying like it's yeah,

866
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:53.880
it makes me think of the Venezuela. Yeah, one that

867
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:57.480
you shared in a while ago, exactly that was. I

868
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.679
think you're right, I think so, but yeah, and like

869
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:03.239
you know, it wouldn't be crazy because to think that

870
00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:05.880
because things similar things have happened.

871
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:06.239
Yeah.

872
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:08.960
So, But honestly, I think it's just that they don't

873
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:10.960
want to admit that they did this horribly the search

874
00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:13.320
and they just suck as a police department. Yeah, that's

875
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:13.960
probably it.

876
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:14.360
Yeah.

877
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:19.039
So the family requested a second autopsy, and this autopsy

878
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:23.679
revealed evidence of sexual and physical abuse. Then in July

879
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:26.480
twenty twenty two, there was a third autopsy done, and

880
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:28.960
I tried to find why this third autopsy was done,

881
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:31.800
and I'm not sure the family requests it. I don't know.

882
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:34.000
I don't know if it was the family or the

883
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:37.840
state trying to disprove the second autopsy. I'm not entirely sure.

884
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:41.159
But this third autopsy from July twenty twenty two, discovered

885
00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:45.719
that she died due to obstruction of respiratory orphices or ifices.

886
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:49.239
I can't say that word. So something was blocking her

887
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:51.639
nose and mouth, so they never said what, but this

888
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:55.159
was the new cause of death. She was suffocated. They

889
00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:57.800
also said there were no signs of sexual abuse, which

890
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:02.320
contradicts the second autopsy. But this also contradicts the first autopsy,

891
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:05.519
which said that her cause of death was the contusion. Yeah,

892
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:10.280
like they're all different. Yeah, So doctor Felippe Takahashi is

893
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:13.039
someone who did this third autopsy. He also said that

894
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:16.440
she died three to five days before her body was found,

895
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:19.519
meaning she would have been alive for a week after

896
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:22.440
she disappeared. This kind of matches up with the first

897
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:24.880
first autopsy that said she was already dead when she

898
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:27.719
hit the water, so there was no water in her lungs. Yeah,

899
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:30.360
but then it like it also undoes the first one

900
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:31.840
because the first one was like, well, she could have

901
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:33.880
been in the tank the whole time. Yeah, but then

902
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:35.719
this also kind of makes it seem like she wasn't

903
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:37.599
in the tank the whole time. There's just no answers,

904
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:41.119
no none. You end up with more questions. It doesn't

905
00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:43.639
even it doesn't even begin to explain the level of

906
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:47.079
decomposition she was found in if she had died through

907
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:50.079
or five days before. There's more questions after each one,

908
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:57.199
like instead clarity, there's confusion, yes, the opposite. No, but seriously,

909
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:02.280
it's it's terrible. And so mistigators maintained that this third

910
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:06.280
autopsy does not establish that she was murdered, but to me,

911
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:10.639
it kind of does. I feel like it does also, Yeah,

912
00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:13.119
because now they can't say it was an accident. How

913
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:15.559
does she get suffocated? How does she get in the

914
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:18.639
cistern if she was suffocated? Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

915
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:22.400
It isn't It isn't. So, but that they're maintaining that

916
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:25.559
it's not, that's not what it is. Her family maintains

917
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:28.679
that she was murdered and that she was planted in

918
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:31.559
the water tank after the two searches had been done,

919
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:36.599
which I honestly that I don't make the most sense. Yeah, Otherwise,

920
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:39.559
how was she not found that lines up with the

921
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:42.559
three to five days timeline? Yeah, but they you know,

922
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:45.360
let's say, doesn't say it doesn't agree. So on eight

923
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:48.239
prior twenty second, the day after she was found thousands

924
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:52.119
marched in the streets of Mexico, not just No val Leone,

925
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.000
but see that Mexico, well, Lajada, everywhere. There was a

926
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:59.039
protest demanding justice for the Banni. In Balone, they even

927
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:02.039
burned the governor's off I love when they do that.

928
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:05.599
I am not against it, I don't care to support it. Yeah,

929
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:07.800
and it's called for because yeah, at the time of

930
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:10.280
her disappearance, she was one of thirty one women who

931
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:15.320
disappeared or were founded in Voleon alone. And a reminder

932
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:20.039
that these murders, I forget the actual specific statistic, but

933
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:24.440
they are usually unresolved because of the all the impunity.

934
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:27.320
So yeah, sometimes they had the burner building down and

935
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:28.440
demand for justice.

936
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:29.159
Yeah.

937
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:32.199
It's also I don't know, it's just it's so tragic

938
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:34.719
and infuriating to me that she herself was at one

939
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:37.000
of these type of protests. Yeah, just a few weeks

940
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:41.840
before herself. Yeah, yeah, it's terrible. Also, after her body

941
00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:45.000
was found, they also found a skeleton in front of

942
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:49.119
the hotel. Unrelated, but yeah, what is going on? Where

943
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:51.440
did it come from? I don't know. I'm gonna find

944
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:54.519
more information about this skeleton that was found and how old.

945
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:57.639
Is it that it's a skeleton? What is happening to

946
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:06.880
that hotel? I don't understand. So, after the third autopsy

947
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:10.280
was done, the bunny was buried in her mom's hometown

948
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:15.840
of Galiana and El Pantheon Municipal, where hundreds attended her funeral.

949
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:19.960
In January twenty twenty three, two hotel employees were charged

950
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:24.440
with obstruction of justice really because they lied about the

951
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:30.960
recordings the video surveillance. Oh and these are the first

952
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:35.199
charges related to the Banni. Why lie? Like is somebody

953
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:36.800
I don't know? No, tell me Heidi?

954
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:38.039
Like? Right?

955
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:40.960
They That's what I don't understand. What heard their business?

956
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:44.039
If they were like associated with it, I'm wondering if

957
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:49.039
you're only employee who cares? Yeah, So their last names

958
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:52.320
are not revealed, they're not public, just their first names.

959
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:56.000
So Anna, Luisa and Elida Urith are the first names.

960
00:50:56.239 --> 00:50:58.639
And they were the manager and the front desk worker

961
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:00.639
of this motel. Dude, I would be so if I

962
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:03.800
was a front desk worker and my manager tells me, oh,

963
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:06.239
don't tell truth and then you get in trouble later,

964
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:08.239
Like I don't know, of course, I don't know. If

965
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:10.159
that don't happen here. But I feel like it makes

966
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:13.000
me think of that scenario because it's a front desk

967
00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:18.920
worker and the manager like, yeah, wow, incriminated her. Yeah,

968
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:22.039
by giving her these orders. Maybe maybe yeah, we don't

969
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:25.039
know for sure where my hand goes, right. So they

970
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:26.800
were the ones who said that there was no video

971
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:29.760
footage of the motel property. And I keep using hotel

972
00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:32.320
hotel and interchangeably. I'm sorry, is there a case anyone

973
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:34.920
gets confused? I've been saying motel and hotel, but what

974
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.760
it's been saying both? All the news sources changed between

975
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:41.360
the two, so no, motel was used more often, but

976
00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:43.519
I keep changing. I keep using the too, So if

977
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:45.719
there's any confusion, it's the same place I'm talking about

978
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:49.440
right right, the Castilla. So they're the ones who said

979
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:53.280
there was no video footage of the motel. And when

980
00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:57.559
there was a search done of their homes and phones

981
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:01.440
and they found their phones, yeah, phones, they like they

982
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:04.239
deleted it and put it on their phones. Hy okay, wow.

983
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:07.360
So they found the USB drives and a laptop with

984
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:10.639
video footage from that day of the hotel. The videos

985
00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:14.079
are not public only the authorities like know what's on

986
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:17.119
them and if there's any answers to what happened to

987
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:20.880
the bunny on the videos? Interesting and maybe there is,

988
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:24.400
because they were charged with ascript obstruction of justice. Yeah

989
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:26.920
the last thing I saw. So they were arrestedent on

990
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:29.440
January eleven, twenty twenty three, and then I read that

991
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:33.599
there was a three month wait for the trial, but

992
00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:35.519
that they were going to go to trial for this.

993
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:39.840
But then I couldn't find anybody when the trial was Yeah,

994
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:44.760
if it happened already, the outcome, I cannot find that anywhere. Wow,

995
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:47.119
So I don't know. I don't know what the deal

996
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:50.480
was with that, since the moment she went missing to

997
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:53.079
the moment she was found, and after it was like

998
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:56.519
what's the word they use? Media circus? Like there was

999
00:52:56.639 --> 00:52:59.360
just yeah, I mean again the picture, the picture went viral,

1000
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:01.400
and it's like the last picture of someone before they

1001
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:04.079
went missing, Like those type of things always go viral anyway.

1002
00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:08.800
But just all this, the more attention is being brought

1003
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:12.280
to all the femicides occurring in Mexico. So for all

1004
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:16.280
those reasons, it got a lot of media attention. And

1005
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:20.360
so her friends that were with her that night, they

1006
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:24.800
had multiple interviews which I listened to one and that

1007
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:27.599
was enough for me. They blamed the bunny for everything.

1008
00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:32.239
I was gonna say, well, do they have regrets? And

1009
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:37.320
that's why I told you earlier like, wow, I'm just floored.

1010
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:39.920
I wouldn't even if that's what I had to say,

1011
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:42.960
I wouldn't show my face. I would feel so guilty.

1012
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:46.679
I wouldn't. I would. I would seek so much therapy

1013
00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:50.440
and means to no blame myself. Yeah, for that night,

1014
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:54.440
And they instead were out there blaming her, say she

1015
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:57.199
was acting crazy and violent. But did they hurt fall

1016
00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:02.000
about like that? The driver was like trying to grow her.

1017
00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:04.599
I don't know. And if they did, I mean that

1018
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:08.079
was made public. Yeah, And if they did, they continued

1019
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:11.320
saying this. The driver did the same thing. He also

1020
00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:16.440
had several interviews after he was released where he blamed

1021
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:19.000
her for acting crazy and violin and that she just

1022
00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:22.480
got out and she wasn't listening. One interview I listened

1023
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:25.239
to were like, well, what about the video of you

1024
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:28.320
trying to group her? What about that? And he just

1025
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:32.159
sucks around it. He denies it. Wow, but it's on video. Also,

1026
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:34.360
that's not hers his first sexual assault charge.

1027
00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:34.880
WHOA.

1028
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:38.679
He's been in jail for this before. Oh my god, see,

1029
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:45.840
like people like that shouldn't be driving for a company. Yeah, yeah, no,

1030
00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:50.679
that's unsafe. Yeah. Her parents are on video on the

1031
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:54.079
news africat when exactly it happened in like the timeline

1032
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:57.400
of this. But he her dad was like, I blame Huan.

1033
00:54:58.199 --> 00:54:59.960
What the hell is this guy's name? The DEDI drive?

1034
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:04.480
I didn't quant something for the longest time. His full

1035
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:07.800
name wasn't public either, and he's been he's not. He

1036
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:10.679
wasn't charged with this, He wasn't found guilty. They interviewed

1037
00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:13.920
him and released him. Right, so Quayad something like that

1038
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:16.760
is his last name. Again, she wouldn't have fled his

1039
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:20.480
car if he had tried to assault her. Yeah, he's

1040
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:24.920
not blameless in this to me, which is why his name. Yeah,

1041
00:55:26.199 --> 00:55:28.880
and the only reason no charges were pressent because she

1042
00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:31.760
couldn't do it. Yeah, at the very least for the

1043
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:35.440
sexual assault it'sself. There seems to be no ties between

1044
00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:39.119
him and her murder or disappearance other than the fact

1045
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:41.760
that she left his car, which honestly too, I think

1046
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:43.719
to most people would like, all right, isn't that enough?

1047
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:45.800
But they let him go for some reason, right, But

1048
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:50.800
her dad on video is like I blame like, this

1049
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:54.760
is his fall. Also the state. You guys suck. You

1050
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:57.159
guys don't know how to investigate, Like I've lost all

1051
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:00.400
my faith in you. And he's right, just right. And

1052
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:02.360
it's really sad because in the beginning, when she first

1053
00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:04.079
went missing, he's like, I have faith in the government.

1054
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:05.840
I have faith in the authorities that I'm going to

1055
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:08.920
find her. You know, everyone we want to Yeah, everyone,

1056
00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:13.239
Like nobody thinks most of the time, unless you're like

1057
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:16.760
quote woke whatever, but most people think, like, oh, the

1058
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:19.400
government is here to help me. If someone went missing,

1059
00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:21.639
you would you would so hold for the best and

1060
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:25.679
help that yeah, yeah, yeah. And so now obviously because

1061
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:28.800
of everything that has happened and how everything has been handled,

1062
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:30.920
he's like, no, I have no faith in any of

1063
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:33.039
these anymore. And he actually tried running for I don't

1064
00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:36.079
know what office himself. Really his whole purpose was like

1065
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:38.079
I want I don't want anyone else to be in

1066
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:39.880
the position I was in, Like I want people to

1067
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:42.559
have competent like leaders, but I don't know if you want.

1068
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:45.519
I couldn't find any information after that, but yeah, there

1069
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:48.119
was a lot of victim blaming, even from and it's

1070
00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:50.880
no surprise, but like you know, Mexican news channels were like,

1071
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.079
oh well she was out drinking, Oh well, why did

1072
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:56.599
she go this and that, like blaming her. Her friends

1073
00:56:56.719 --> 00:56:59.480
blamed her too. That's ridiculous. I can't even believe they

1074
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:02.039
d are just other faces like that and say that,

1075
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:06.400
like yeah, multiple interview at their interview, like I would

1076
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:10.000
literally I'd be ashamed. I probably, I don't know. They

1077
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:12.960
even blamed her parents for not answering their phones. They wouldn't.

1078
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:14.519
You wouldn't have had to call them if you didn't

1079
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:17.719
abandon your friend to a driver. You then assault in her,

1080
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:20.519
forced her to flee, and then harm came to her.

1081
00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:24.039
Who knows how. Yeah, and it's like an interviews of theirs.

1082
00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:27.360
They even tried to like distance themselves from the relationship

1083
00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:29.360
they had with her, like you know, she's like, well,

1084
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:31.480
I only knew her for three months and then all

1085
00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:33.360
the other girl I understand, she's like I met her

1086
00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:35.760
that night once. It's like, you know, I feel like

1087
00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:39.000
when and I hope it doesn't come off like victim

1088
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:41.159
blame me because I'm not, but like it's such a

1089
00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:43.440
I feel like it's such a dangerous time when you're

1090
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:46.800
like in your party phase because if you get a

1091
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:49.519
little out of hand, like you had to trust the

1092
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:52.840
people around you to look out for you, and that's scary.

1093
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:55.639
You should you should be able to go out have

1094
00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:58.280
a crazy party phase and be safe. Yeah, Like you

1095
00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:00.440
shouldn't have to be afraid for your life every time

1096
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:02.639
you go out with your friends. Like, nobody should be

1097
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:06.039
out there taking advantage of people, and women more often

1098
00:58:06.119 --> 00:58:09.199
than not women. Yeah, And I like, I literally wonder

1099
00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:11.840
how I'm still alive sometimes because I'm like, no, same,

1100
00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:14.360
I've done my fair share of shit. And then I'm

1101
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:17.840
like looking back and I'm like, what's that? No point

1102
00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:18.679
in analyzing this?

1103
00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:20.079
But you know.

1104
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:24.639
Yeah, and it's like yeah, like I don't. The only

1105
00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:27.440
person to blame here is whoever did this to the money? Yeah,

1106
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:29.880
but man, there was so many times that this Like

1107
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:32.239
they could have just gone in the car with her, Yeah,

1108
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.000
Like for what for some dog ass men?

1109
00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:35.400
You know?

1110
00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:39.079
Like yeah, yeah, like I do this every weekend. Probably

1111
00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:41.079
you don't mean anything to do them, and you're gonna

1112
00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:43.800
ban your friend for that, yeah, Like I it just

1113
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:45.480
it would have been such a different story if her

1114
00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:48.159
friends would have stayed with her. Yeah, and again it's

1115
00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:52.840
not it's not their fall per se, it's whoever did this, right? Yeah,

1116
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:55.000
but man, just like I just think that. I'm like,

1117
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:56.920
I don't even care. If I would have just met

1118
00:58:56.960 --> 00:58:59.480
that person that night, I wouldn't have left them alone,

1119
00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:03.119
like we're going out together, for going down. Yeah, And

1120
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:05.280
like I can't stand like there's like so many posts

1121
00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:06.840
on Reddit where they're like, oh, so and so is

1122
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:09.000
not a girl's girl. Like I just the term girls

1123
00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:12.000
girl gets on my nerves. It's because it's been like overblown,

1124
00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:15.039
like over yeah, you're blown, and like overuse the point

1125
00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:17.599
where it doesn't mean anything. Yeah, but it's like I

1126
00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:20.199
have to think a girl's girl wouldn't have left their girl.

1127
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:21.639
No, no, no.

1128
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:24.639
And it's also like I don't support all women. Some

1129
00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:27.639
of y'all are dumb bitches like these two, you know. Yeah,

1130
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:29.519
I just like I put myself there. I'm like I

1131
00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:31.480
could not do it. I could not leave someone like that.

1132
00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:35.559
And like, man, anyway, So again, a lot of victimsly mean,

1133
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:38.239
and it's a real shame that that is what the

1134
00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:41.079
state of the media is in Mexico specifically, is where

1135
00:59:41.079 --> 00:59:45.199
I saw most of the type of coverage the case.

1136
00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:48.400
It's it's such a big caste because it revealed a

1137
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:51.159
lot of the incompetence within the police department. And of

1138
00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:54.559
course it's yet another case that adds to the number

1139
00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:57.800
of femicides in Mexico. Yeah, and it just brings more

1140
00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:00.719
light to the issue that is still ongoing. There were

1141
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:04.239
offers from like Mexican media to have a documentary or

1142
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:06.760
a show about the bunny and her father. When he

1143
01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:09.119
was approached about this, he was like, no, he did

1144
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:10.840
it in such a like polite way where he like,

1145
01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:13.719
he's like he thanked them for like wanting to bring

1146
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:16.840
light to his daughter and for their empathy, but he

1147
01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:20.000
doesn't want to show he wants justice. He wants answers.

1148
01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:23.360
And yeah, they deserve it at the release, they deserve

1149
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:28.000
to know what happened. That's no kind of proper investigation

1150
01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:31.480
because yeah, that was a shoddy ass work right there. Yeah,

1151
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:35.840
and uh, this last Christmas was the family's second Christmas

1152
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.000
without their daughter. They released the video. I don't know

1153
01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:39.719
if it's like a Joe like a Facebook page they

1154
01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:41.639
have for her. I think it might be where they

1155
01:00:41.679 --> 01:00:53.039
released this video, But they said the following premas they

1156
01:00:53.039 --> 01:01:03.719
went as vibras La passing the pass Benidero and seen,

1157
01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:08.559
oh my god, I can't read Stevens. And then in English,

1158
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:10.480
it's a little difficult for us to live these first

1159
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:12.719
holidays without our daughter. We didn't want to send you

1160
01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:14.960
a message of good vibes, but we do want to

1161
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:18.119
wish you, uh, that this Christmas you have, you're full

1162
01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:20.679
of love, peace, and that the coming year is full

1163
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:23.039
of blessings for you. So, I mean, even in their pain,

1164
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:28.679
they're like, I don't know, so kind and yeah, still

1165
01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:32.280
today there's there's no no one charged with her. No,

1166
01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:35.360
let me rephrase. Still today it's not ruled a murder.

1167
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:39.119
I mean that's yeah, well that alone. Yeah, we don't

1168
01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:41.119
know what was on those videos. The family doesn't know.

1169
01:01:41.719 --> 01:01:44.760
They did ask that the investigation be moved from the

1170
01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:49.119
state to like federal, so like Bexico's version of an FBI,

1171
01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:51.360
I don't know the acronyms, which is why I'm saying, yeah,

1172
01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:54.320
and that did happen, but I don't know what else

1173
01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:58.079
has happened since then, Like there's no more answers, but

1174
01:01:58.239 --> 01:02:02.679
they are still demanding just for the bunny, rightfully. So yeah,

1175
01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:05.400
I mean, we can only hope that there's answers that

1176
01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:07.480
they know, because I don't know. I feel like not

1177
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:10.480
like this horrible. The last minutes of her life were

1178
01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:11.480
already so scary.

1179
01:02:11.719 --> 01:02:11.920
Yeah.

1180
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:17.159
The least that they deserve is to know what happened. Yeah,

1181
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:20.719
so yeah, that was the case of the Banny. Yes, gobad,

1182
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:23.519
And we'll take a little break together ourselves and then

1183
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:32.039
come back with speaky recommendations. Okay, well we're back. Speaky recommendations.

1184
01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:34.039
Do you have any I read a book and a

1185
01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:38.440
library called The Best Way to Bury Your Husband by

1186
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:43.599
Alexia Cassel. Cassell, I don't not pronounce it. She's British.

1187
01:02:44.199 --> 01:02:44.360
Oh.

1188
01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:48.360
I feel so funny sometimes reading British books because their

1189
01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:52.360
English is so different. Oh yeah, yeah, and they learned

1190
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:56.719
a lot of new words. Let me find the same summary. Okay.

1191
01:02:56.920 --> 01:02:59.960
A dark comedy about four women coming together to heal

1192
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:03.199
the damage their husbands have done and hide their bodies

1193
01:03:03.320 --> 01:03:06.119
once they've killed them. When Sally kills her husband what

1194
01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:09.480
they cast iron skillet, she's more fearful of losing her

1195
01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:12.440
kids than of disposing of a fresh corpse. That just

1196
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:14.960
want to be fair, not after twenty years of marriage

1197
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:17.800
to a truly terrible man, but Sally isn't the only

1198
01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:21.679
woman in town reaching the brink. Soon, Sally finds herself

1199
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:25.239
leading an extremely unusual self help group, and among them

1200
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:27.719
there are four bodies to hide. Can they all figure

1201
01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:30.360
out the perfect way to bury their husbands and get

1202
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:33.599
away with it? First to join is former nurse Ruth,

1203
01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:36.320
who met her husband as a single mom. Now her

1204
01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:39.719
son is grown, and her husband's violence builds by the day,

1205
01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:42.880
until an attack on the stairs leads to a fatal

1206
01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:46.880
accident for him. A feudal's down. Samira's last straw comes

1207
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:49.960
when she discovers her husband is planning a campaign a

1208
01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:53.719
violence against her eldest daughter, who has just come out. Janie,

1209
01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:56.599
Sally's best friend, has just had her first child. At

1210
01:03:56.679 --> 01:03:59.960
forty two, sleep deprived, Janie needs a hero to slip

1211
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:03.000
the monster in the fairy tales. She whispursued her daughter

1212
01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:06.280
each night, and as her husband's violence escalates, it might

1213
01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:09.320
just be her together if youeled by righteous anger but

1214
01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:12.440
tempered by a moral core. The four women must help

1215
01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:14.360
each other work out a plan to get rid of

1216
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:18.519
their husbands for good. Along the way, Sally, Ruth, Samira,

1217
01:04:18.639 --> 01:04:22.320
and Jeanie rediscover old joys and embark on new passions

1218
01:04:22.440 --> 01:04:26.079
in work, education, and life. Friendship and laughter really are

1219
01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:28.679
the best medicine. And so it's getting away with murder

1220
01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:30.840
and wow, that description just kind of told you the

1221
01:04:30.840 --> 01:04:36.480
whole story. It really does, so it's interesting. Yeah, so

1222
01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:39.800
what description and the title and everything, that's what, like,

1223
01:04:39.880 --> 01:04:43.320
you know, caught my attention. I ended up like grading

1224
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:48.079
it three out of five because it was just okay,

1225
01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:51.480
but it wasn't like bad okay, Like some parts felt

1226
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:53.679
a lot like very drawn out, like I feel like

1227
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:56.559
it could have been shorter. And then it was also

1228
01:04:56.719 --> 01:04:59.280
cheesy at times. But I don't know if that's just me,

1229
01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:01.159
Like I don't know, I just find stuff like too

1230
01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:05.480
cheesy sometimes, like I don't know, sometimes you do. Yeah,

1231
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:07.400
so that might be a me problem. I don't know.

1232
01:05:07.719 --> 01:05:11.119
And ratings are like subjective, you know, of course, like

1233
01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:12.800
this might be a five out of five to somebody else,

1234
01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:14.639
and I wouldn't judge them. The only book I would

1235
01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:16.960
just somebody for liking is The Midnight Library. You know,

1236
01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:22.639
I hated that book. I'm not going to read it

1237
01:05:22.760 --> 01:05:26.760
based way too cheesy. Okay, anyway, so yeah, times is cheesy,

1238
01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:30.400
but I feel like the story is so important, like

1239
01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:35.679
about surviving domestic violence and thriving after domestic violence. It's

1240
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:39.639
such an important story to tell, and so I feel

1241
01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:43.000
like the story kind of overrides the cheesiness and some

1242
01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:45.760
of the boring parts. There were some funny parts too,

1243
01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:48.360
but I wouldn't, like, straight up call it a comedy. Okay,

1244
01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:50.960
it wasn't bad, though, Like I would still recommend it.

1245
01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:53.119
I feel like the one like sentence I made up

1246
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:55.000
in my head to summarize it, and I'm going to

1247
01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:59.039
start doing this for books now, is it's not the

1248
01:05:59.159 --> 01:06:01.480
husband's you kill, but about the friends you make along

1249
01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:05.320
the way. Oh my god, that's funny. I like it

1250
01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:07.559
sounds inspiring, Yeah, doesn't it?

1251
01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:08.119
Yeah?

1252
01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:11.760
Okay? Is that you're only speak your comminition? Yes, okay,

1253
01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:13.760
sometimes you have several so I had to check. It's

1254
01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:17.760
because I didn't finish any audiobooks because the last one

1255
01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:21.280
I talked about, Our Share of the Night, was so long,

1256
01:06:22.039 --> 01:06:27.400
the longest audiobooks of my life. I want to read it, like,

1257
01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:29.920
actually read the book, so I mean, okay, I can

1258
01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:32.880
still read it. I feel like, what's the audiobook like?

1259
01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:34.239
Twenty six hours?

1260
01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:36.039
Yeah?

1261
01:06:36.159 --> 01:06:39.719
Okay, it's like and I know, buy like seven hundred pages. Oh,

1262
01:06:40.079 --> 01:06:43.000
I like the fifteen hour twelve to fifteen hour, but

1263
01:06:43.079 --> 01:06:45.480
that's a sweet spot. That's a sweet spot. Sometimes I

1264
01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:47.760
read D six seven or one and I'm like, wow,

1265
01:06:48.679 --> 01:06:51.840
that was too fast. Yeah, so yeah, like twelve hours

1266
01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:54.320
and yeah, most of them were like twelve thirteen hours,

1267
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:56.679
I feel like, but yeah, I like three hundreds to

1268
01:06:56.760 --> 01:06:59.360
three one hundred and twenty nine page hours. I was like,

1269
01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:02.559
oh my that I can't that's a journey listening to this,

1270
01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:04.679
and I was like, I wasn't tired of it because

1271
01:07:04.679 --> 01:07:08.360
it was good, but kind of looking at once and

1272
01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:10.960
it kind of like put me off of audiobooks. I

1273
01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:12.920
did start listening to them, but I haven't finished it

1274
01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:15.159
because I've done anything for the past three days and

1275
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:17.119
I listened to audiooks on I Need two stuff. Also,

1276
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:20.599
I started listening to If We Were Villains. I've heard

1277
01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:23.440
that okay, and by mL Rio I think is the

1278
01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:26.199
name of the author. I haven't heard of it. It's

1279
01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:28.920
like a thriller, but I'm still listening to it. I'm like,

1280
01:07:29.039 --> 01:07:30.639
I feel like I'm not I don't even think i'm

1281
01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:32.639
halfway yet. I'm not sure. And I just started reading

1282
01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:36.039
another book too, on kindle on my kindle from the library,

1283
01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:37.800
just the only way I use the kindle now because

1284
01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:39.880
I'm like, I'm not going to purchase a book. Yeah,

1285
01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:43.000
an evil and movies around? What book is it? What

1286
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:45.039
is it called? What is it called? The Love of

1287
01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:45.880
My Afterlife?

1288
01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:46.239
Oh?

1289
01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:49.840
That sounds cute. Yeah, it's like a cute little romance,

1290
01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:52.760
I think, But what the afterlife tied into it? I

1291
01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:55.000
could so see this as a movie. Okay, I'm going

1292
01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:56.920
to look for it to place a hold. Also a

1293
01:07:57.000 --> 01:07:59.920
British author, Oh what's up with you in the Britain?

1294
01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:05.079
I don't know? Or since Australian wrong? Actually okay, I

1295
01:08:05.159 --> 01:08:08.039
was gonna say if we were villains. It's not British,

1296
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:10.639
but it did. There's a lot of Shakespeare in it,

1297
01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:12.840
so it makes me think of it. There's some British

1298
01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:16.159
characters also in it. Okay, where does it take place?

1299
01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:20.199
I feel like so New York? But after life one

1300
01:08:21.760 --> 01:08:31.039
does Anyway, I'll talk about these like next name later, Yeah, okay, okay,

1301
01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:34.159
Well I started reading this book called The Devil in

1302
01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:37.880
Silver by Victor Loval. I saw I saw that on

1303
01:08:38.079 --> 01:08:42.520
story graphs. Yeah, and I took a h each other. Yes, yeah,

1304
01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:48.399
you're one one other person I follow. I took a

1305
01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:50.199
screenshot and I was like, oh, I've like heard so

1306
01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:52.600
much about his books, and then I was going to screenshot,

1307
01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:54.199
and then I never did, so I'm glad to talk

1308
01:08:54.239 --> 01:08:58.000
about it. I I heard it was an asylum the story.

1309
01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:00.319
I've heard of this book, and then I'm actually, you

1310
01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:02.920
know what, I've been wanting to find one because I

1311
01:09:03.039 --> 01:09:05.119
remember got the Gus carried me so much when we

1312
01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:06.800
were young. Yeah, and I'm like, I want to feel

1313
01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:09.199
that again. So that's why I checked it out. I'm

1314
01:09:09.399 --> 01:09:12.840
literally in the first like three chapters, so so I can't,

1315
01:09:13.079 --> 01:09:14.560
you know, say if it's good or not yet, but

1316
01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:17.359
if you want an asylum story, it has really good reviews.

1317
01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:20.079
I don't think it will disappoint me. I really don't,

1318
01:09:20.479 --> 01:09:22.359
but I can't say I can't talk about it because

1319
01:09:22.359 --> 01:09:24.600
I don't know much about it. But it's a black author,

1320
01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:28.640
it's a black name protagonist, Victor Laval. I thought I

1321
01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:32.039
had books of his in my La V A l Ee.

1322
01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:35.159
But so that's one of my spooky recommendations and my

1323
01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:37.520
other one. I finally finished The Walking Dead, which I

1324
01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:39.600
did an noow. It's on Instagram. I also made a

1325
01:09:39.640 --> 01:09:41.880
poll like who is still watching? Who loved it, who

1326
01:09:41.920 --> 01:09:44.359
hated it? Who just gave up on a certain place?

1327
01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:47.840
Sixty percent of our people that voted in our poll

1328
01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:50.880
gave up on it at the point. Yeah, I have

1329
01:09:51.039 --> 01:09:55.680
a feeling that it was probably Glenn. Yeah, that was

1330
01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:57.960
when a lot of us stopped. For so many people,

1331
01:09:58.000 --> 01:09:59.960
it was Glenn. And if it wasn't Glenn, sorry spoil

1332
01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:04.680
a Carl. Yeah yeah, so yeah. And then some people

1333
01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:07.359
just never watched it or never liked it. And then

1334
01:10:07.640 --> 01:10:09.680
there was like twenty percent of people who were like

1335
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:11.119
I love it, and I was like, well, you guys

1336
01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:15.600
are my people. I guess overall, I honestly, if you

1337
01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:18.960
like Zombies, it's it's worth a full watch of the

1338
01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:22.039
full show. I think personally. There are some points where

1339
01:10:22.039 --> 01:10:24.800
you're like, oh my god, like why is this happening?

1340
01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:28.079
But overall it's it's it's a classic. And again, like,

1341
01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:30.840
nothing will ever top seasons one through five for me, Yeah,

1342
01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:34.000
so good at the very least seasons one through three, Like,

1343
01:10:34.199 --> 01:10:36.279
for sure, I don't know if I'm going to check

1344
01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:40.760
out the new spin offs, I probably will, honestly, Specifically,

1345
01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:42.800
Daryl Dixon and then The Ones Who Live, which is

1346
01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:45.520
about Rick and Mi Shone because oh, I love me show.

1347
01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:49.239
I don't care how much like plow armor people think

1348
01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:51.159
she has, like, oh, she's just the best and she

1349
01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:54.039
deserves all the plot armor, Like she survives everything? Is

1350
01:10:54.079 --> 01:10:55.079
that a plot arm means?

1351
01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:55.520
Yeah?

1352
01:10:55.640 --> 01:10:59.359
Yeah, like she nothing can hurt her, and yeah, I

1353
01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:01.239
love her and I know I want her to live forever.

1354
01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:05.800
So so I'll probably check that one out. I'm not

1355
01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:08.000
sure i'll all check out the other one that has

1356
01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:11.159
Meagan and Maggie because I don't like Meagan. I don't

1357
01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:15.239
like I think it's reschotic. So like Vegan, because doesn't

1358
01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:18.039
he like become good or whatever he does. He does

1359
01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:21.319
get a really good redemption arc that he deserves redemption

1360
01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:25.279
arc under that. Yeah, and but so many people love

1361
01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:28.119
him and he you know what the show didn't And

1362
01:11:28.199 --> 01:11:32.000
you love to love the bad guys. Yeah, I can't.

1363
01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:34.000
I can even It's just he does get better, but

1364
01:11:34.079 --> 01:11:36.880
I just can't forget what he did. I can't, So

1365
01:11:36.920 --> 01:11:38.840
I don't think i'll watch that spin off. Dead City

1366
01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:40.800
is what it's called. I did start Fear of the

1367
01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:42.760
Walking Dead, but I hear out there. Season four it

1368
01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:46.880
gets a little like terrible. Really, it becomes the Morgan show.

1369
01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:49.640
That's when Morgan leaves The Walking Dead and goes over

1370
01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:52.880
to Fear the Walking Dead. But the first three seasons.

1371
01:11:52.920 --> 01:11:55.319
I'm in season two of Fear the Walking Dead, and honestly,

1372
01:11:55.399 --> 01:12:00.159
I just love, like all the Spanish speaking representation. I

1373
01:12:00.279 --> 01:12:03.239
might watch just for that. Yeah. Some of the main

1374
01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:08.399
characters are Salvi's, which there's never Salvadorians in a show

1375
01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:14.279
that's not about deportation, and they're confused for Mexican. But no,

1376
01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:17.359
what kind of Salve I don't know yet, but he

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might have done some horrible things during the Civil War.

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I think it's the vibe I'm getting. Oh no, but

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it's the first time I heard Voss in a zombie show.

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We're like, come on, he said it, he said it

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my favorite sand And then they go to Mexico. They're

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in Mexico. They're in a little Mexican village. It's a

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little cartel village. I'm not sure yet. I can't even

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escape up for cartel storylines in the zombie Buncle lips.

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We can't. I don't think we can. I'm not sure yet.

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I don't know yet. I'm speculating. However, it's set in Mexico,

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so you know, I gotta take my wins. It's not

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perfect representation, yeah, but it's there. It's there, And honestly,

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The Walking Dead, I think that's why I was so

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obsessed with it for a little bit, because there's just

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so many non white characters that are important to the story. Yeah,

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there's a in season. It's the season ten or eleven,

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but a new Latina joins the show. Her name is

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Princess in the Walking Deon. Yeah. Yeah, and she's like,

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they're like, are you crazy. She's like, uh No, I'm

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not crazy. I mean I have a DHD anxiety and

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depression now. Yeah, I love her. She's one of my favorites.

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I love her.

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Is that me? Yeah?

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And then Drosita Christian Serratos, Yeah, she was my favorite.

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When I was watching The walkingdon my Latina zombie Apocalypse

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queen and I'm like, how does this bitch good enough?

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Fucking apocalypse for real? And I don't blame her. If

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anyone was to look good in a zombie apocalypse, it

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would be her. Eyebrow was killing it and I understand

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01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:51.760
I'm not any here questioning no hair, friends, I can't

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even get that in day to day life, No, but

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she can do it in the Zombie a Pocalypse. And

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I believe it. I love it, and I love it.

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I din' question it. So yeah, that's my Those are

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my recommendations. I could go on, but I won't. I'll

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let you leave. It's all we late. I gotta put

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01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:09.560
my kids to bed. He said we were going to

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01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:13.800
do a Patreon Oh okay, yeah, before we go, there's

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01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:15.800
some things I want I have planned for Patreon that

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01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:18.399
I want to talk about because I'm not done obsessing

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01:14:18.439 --> 01:14:20.159
over The Walking Dead and I'm sorry, So I want

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to talk about I want to do an episode where

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we bring our favorite zombie media. So it could be

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books we don't play, we don't play. We already have

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01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:30.279
my favorite media. I won't say here on my way

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01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:33.479
for Patreon. Yeah, and wait for Patreon. And I mean

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01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:35.399
mine is not just The Walking Dead. There's so much

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01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:37.760
zombie books out there that I've read as well, and

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01:14:37.840 --> 01:14:39.640
so we're going to do that. And then we said

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01:14:39.720 --> 01:14:42.239
vampires was the other one? Yeah, yeah, okay, vampires. Oh

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01:14:42.319 --> 01:14:45.479
and then we should do just horror oh yes, yes,

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01:14:46.039 --> 01:14:47.319
which I think is one of Is that one of

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01:14:47.399 --> 01:14:51.439
your favorite, like chorus of genres, I feel like it is,

1430
01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:54.359
although I don't think i've read too much. Oh actually

1431
01:14:54.399 --> 01:14:57.399
I kind of have, well, not that much, A little bit. Whatever,

1432
01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:03.239
we'll get into it. Zombies and religious horror is one

1433
01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:06.720
of my favorites. Yeah, yeah, I think religious. I think

1434
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:11.439
I think I enjoyed zombies more than you. I enjoy zombies.

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01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:13.159
I just feel like I don't like seek it out

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01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:15.479
that often. For some reason. I had a phase, you know,

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01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:17.399
when The Walking Dead was out, I was reading all

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01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:21.319
the zombie books. That's true, that's true. Yeah, Okay, well

1439
01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:23.239
we'll go because it's been this has been long enough.

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I can't believe I survived this. I know you kept

1441
01:15:25.960 --> 01:15:29.880
yanning it, and I was like, you weren't dying as

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01:15:29.960 --> 01:15:32.199
much as that other time though, Oh my god, the

1443
01:15:32.319 --> 01:15:34.600
Quad Black Guid just powered through it. This time.

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01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:35.199
You did.

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01:15:35.479 --> 01:15:38.000
Yeah you did so, yeah, I don't know. Watch out

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01:15:38.039 --> 01:15:39.600
for a monkey ghosts that are actually the one that

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is in your house, like Jenna or the guy, and

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