Silver Nitrate Book Club Episode

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Hi everyone. This is Christina,
and this is MJ and Carmen, and

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this is a book Club episode.
Finally. It took a year. Literally

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yeah, yeah, literally a year. It's our episode on silver nitrate.

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And Carmen, you wrote all the
notes today, so I did, and

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I basically reread it for the notes, so it's fresh in my mind.

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Wow, it's fresh. Okay,
I did not, so we'll see what

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happened. Yeah, any refresher at
all? Nothing, nothing, It's okay,

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because I'm gonna tell you what happens. Yeah. No, no,

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I don't remember anything, so no, no, no, I remember,

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I remember somethings. Okay, I
just didn't reread it. I reread it,

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but like a month ago. Oh
oh well that's better than me.

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Still is that when you message and
you were like, I have notes now

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on this, Like no, it
was after actually oh oh okay, but

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I do have notes on the real
life influences or lure that she used for

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the book that I did write down
because she grabbed a lot of influences from

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like accurate historical shit, as she
always Yes, yeah, I guess we

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could do that first and then we'll
like kind of have more of an idea

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of what it intels. Okay,
so was the first thing that I'm going

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to go over. It's I believe
the gold Shirts they were called. I

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didn't write this down, but this
was fresh in my memory, and they

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were a political group in Mexico and
they were very like a pro Nazi.

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They were I can't remember that they
were a right wing I believe, a

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political group at the time, and
I didn't. I had no idea about

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this. Yeah, the gold Shirts
a Mexican fascist, secular, anti Semitic,

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anti communist party, ultra nationalist,
all the bad things. And they

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were from nineteen thirty three to nineteen
thirty six, and she mentions them on

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page sixty. I believe. So
I had no idea about this. I

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knew they were like pro Nazi or
whatever because they were anti Semitic. Wow,

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I feel like we don't know a
lot about like Nazi movements, pro

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Nazi movements outside of Germany because it's
not taught to us. Because there's also

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a yeah, like did you see
that thing with the pro Nazi movement here

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in the United States during the In
the US there was a gathering of over

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twenty thousand Nazis during the war or
yeah, I'm pretty sure it was during

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And it's like they don't tell you
how many Nazis were here and how they

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of course not. I mean like
there's always a thing about like, oh,

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well, all the Nazis went to
like Argentina, and partially that's true,

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but a lot of them came here. Here's a project called Project paper

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Clip. Yeah, a lot of
them were brought over here, and a

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lot of people gotcha like, Latin
America, you guys took a Nazis.

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I'm like, so did the United
States? How did you think I got

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rocket technology? Like are you so
syvoists? Yeah? A lot of them

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fled secretly hiding their identities to Latin
America, but a lot of them were

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invited over here. They were Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

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They were invited here. Yeah,
they were invited over here, and they

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forgave their atrocities to humanity because the
government, the United States government was like,

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we'll forgive you if you have to
give us the information and all your

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work and research, which is like, you know a lot of people use

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it as a katcha Latin America,
you know, but I'm like, and

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it's really not it's not. Then
it went on to commit some atrocities here.

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Mm hmmm, mm hmmm, because
the Nazis that were brought over with

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Operation Paperclip were then hired to work
on Project the MK Ultra. So yeah,

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that too. Yeah, and then
there was I don't know if this

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has anything to do with it,
which I do need to research, but

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or I'm pulling this out of my
ass. But I don't know if you

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guys had ever heard of doctor I
think Deliriate. What was his name when

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he used to be a scientist that
worked with the United States. That sounds

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like a fake name. No,
it's it's it's not a real name.

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It's a nickname that they gave this
guy. And oh, okay, if

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I heard his real name, I
might recognize him, But not through that

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name. I feel like it only
sounds familiar because it sounds like like US

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comic book building, like. But
it was a guy who used to test

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on uh, oh my god,
he used to test on on military personnel.

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Well, this just sounds like any
scientist that was brought over during Operation

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Oh yeah. But he was like
he was like, oh my god,

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there's there's a documentary. I think
his name was doctor delirium. Let me

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see. Oh, I just saw
an article from The Guardian inside the world

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of shocking military drug experiments in the
fifties to the seventies, and a lot

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of the subjects to this like uh
uh drug experiments on the military person.

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No, they like, like,
what is it called family annihilators and stuff?

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Yeah? Wait, what what is
the connection? Oh that became they

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became family annihilators experimented on Yeah.
Yeah, they killed they killed themselves and

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their whole family. That's the new
Like I never heard of that, like

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family annihilators until like about a month
ago, where they're talking about men who

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that kills his children and his well, his family that's everyone hence today and

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himself. Yeah, family and I
But I never heard that term. I

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know, like everybody's like, are
you serious? I thought you had.

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I feel like you guys talked about
it in one of your episodes one.

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I'm surprised, no, because we've
only talked about what's her name that killed

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her children. But I don't think
we've talked about Oh but no, not

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a man. No, Okay,
So I guess I'm going to the podcast.

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Yeah, you and I have had
these conversations coming probably maybe I'm getting

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used with real life, but I
think a lot of like the experiments that

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have at the time had to also
do with like Nazi research, and because

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they did do like drug experiments on
concentration camp victims and stuff. So I

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had no idea about that. Yeah, yeah, that's where they the gold

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shirts. Well, no, let's
go on with your notes before we Okay,

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A few years ago I went down
the Alistair Crowley Crowley My Bad Crowley

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rabbit hole, and it's a very
extensive rabbit hole to me, Like the

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Alistair Crowley topic is a topic that
almost seems never ending, not necessarily his

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story because his story is like pretty
like Keen like beginning to end, but

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there's like the spiderweb with things and
people he is connected to by like either

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his friends or something JPL. The
jet propulsion laboratories involved Nazi religion, Nazi's

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religion. Ancient memoirs remind me Alistair
Crowley, how is he related to silver

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nytrait? She mentions him in the
book. I remember, and then a

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lot of the stuff that I want
to say like happens in the book because

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to me, what is the guy's
name? I forgot his name? Yours.

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Yours is an Alister Crowley esque you
know what. I don't know how

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to pronounce his name, but yeah, you were you weres, you weres,

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you weres. I think his name
is yours, but yours is to

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me and Alistair Crowley esque character,
like I feel like kids based on Alistair

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Crowley. I keep saying his name
is Crowley, and I keep on saying

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Crowley whatever. You know why I
say Crowley because the character from Supernatural mm

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hmm yeah when I say it because
of good omens. Oh yeah, but

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his name is Crowley because even like
a lot of people call him Crowley.

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But his family used to have a
brewing I know so much shit about this

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guy. Okay, I'm sorry.
I went down the rad His family used

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to have a brewing company and the
logo was a crow I thought they were

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crowds. Are they crowds? Guess
it depends, like whatever. I'm just

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gonna call him Crowley because like the
way I speak English wants to say Crowley.

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But yeah, I've heard I forgot
that Crawley. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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I agree. Okay. So there's
Egyptology, Christianity, angels, and

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bram Stoker, like the connections and
the and the spider web is like crazy

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and a lot of it is in
silver nitrate. A lot of it is

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not. So if you have gone
down the occultism, especially of the late

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nineteenth century and the rest of the
twentieth century and occultism now, Alistair Crowley

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was either involved or influenced things in
one way or another. Even the Beatles

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are involved. It's like like it's
crazy wow. And Jimmy Page too,

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the Beatles the guitarists. Oh okay. I was like, who's Jimmy Page?

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Like the name sounds okay. Yeah. So so before I give a

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background into occultism that inspired silver nitrate, I do not advise anyone to do

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the things Alistair Crowley did. He
was very depraved. There's child to abuse,

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of illegal activity and perhaps even murder, which again it's very similar to

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the ship that he was accused of
that's a silver nitrate. He was into

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some shit, nasty, disgusting shit
no pun intended. Uh. It is

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said that at one point he consumed
human excrements. He was not in the

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right head and reading up about like
about his stuff like scratches an itch,

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like you know, but please don't
do what he did. He's still he

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still has a huge following even today. But I feel like I have to

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address that because common sons say what
he did. Yeah, because like like

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there's some people out there and like
common sense is not that common. Like

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there's there's a reason why we have
stupid as warnings on labels. Yeah,

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there's a reason. That's true.
That's very true. The book mentions the

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Real Society and and now the Real
Society was associated with the Fool Society,

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and the Soul Society was in a
cult to society that was founded in Germany

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after World War One by Rudolph on
I can't pronounce his name, but I'm

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going to try Subotandorf. And the
Real Society is said to have been the

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inner circle of the Fool Society.
So the School Society is already like a

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secret society, but then there was
like a secret society within the secret society,

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a secret secret society on and now
there is Yeah, there is no

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evidence of the Real Society ever existing. It was alleged by Jack Jacket,

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Jaquis Usi Rogier and Louis Powell's in
nineteen sixty and the origins of the idea

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of the Real society. I think
it is important. It comes from a

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book written in eighteen seventy one by
Edward Bulwer Edward Brewer Lights entitled The Coming

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of Race. In this book,
the main character encounters a subterranean master race.

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These beings called themselves the Rill.
Yeah, and they have telepathic abilities.

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They're essentially superhuman. The Rialia were
descendants of an anti Deluvian race called

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the Ana, and their energy and
spirituality is connected with this thing called the

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Rill. It's like a fluid essence
thing, and it's what makes them superhuman

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and empowers their tech and civilization as
a whole. So we get a little

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bit of how you were used himself
as belonging to this superior race from an

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antidiluvian society like Atlantis. And I
mean this was legit, like people thought

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this. Yeah, the right hand
man of not of Hitler, and he

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was in charge of the SS.
He he had an insane amount of books

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on occultism, occultism. Well there
were hella ocultests yeah yeah. And and

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like by the way, these books
are from eighteen seventy one, so it

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stands this is a real the real
it's a real book. Like by the

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way, like you can download it
and read it today. But this is

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where the real society, like the
inspiration comes from. And you could also

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see this inspiration then transfer over to
Silver Night Trade. So again similar to

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the Atlantean thing you weres had going
on. And then Jack Parsons, which

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is a real person and he was
part of Salima. She mentions him.

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So it's on page sixty five and
she mentions Jack Parson. He was a

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real person, like an occultist.
He was part of Salima. I can't

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pronounce half of this shit. I'm
guessing Salima and it's an occultis society started

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by Alistair Crowley. Parsons was one
of the founding members of JPL. He

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was an occultist in practice and had
communication with Crowley. Jack Parsons is the

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link between Alistair Crowley and the United
States government, both with JPL and because

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Jack parsons occult practices were investigated by
the government several times. Wow. He

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was in an open marriage with his
wife because Alistair and the whole of Sillema

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society told him to. They had
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that society. He then began sleeping
with his wife's sister. This comes into

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play later because Jack Parson then becomes
friends with el Ron Hubbard, that very

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same al Ron Horbard, father of
scientology Alistair did not like Hobbard. I'm

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telling you, like Alister Crowley's in
the middle of everything and this is all

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connected. I'm frightened and like it's
like a spider w But I told you

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and Alicer did not like Hubbard and
was concerned for Parsons. Sarah, his

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wife's sister, had a relationship with
then fell for Hubbard. Sarah and Hubbard

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took all of parsons life savings spent
it on a business venture that did not

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go anywhere. Hubbard had worked for
the government and is believed that Hubbard was

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the reason for the downfall of Parsons
and the Thelma Society branch he was head

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of, called Ordo Templey Orientis.
Hubbard took his girl, his money and

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was his downfall. Damn. Parson
was fully investigated on accounts of his recklessness

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at JPL. Everything was under a
magnifying glass for the entire entire world to

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see. He was let go and
was hit with a lot of bad luck.

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Again. The bad luck aspect of
Aleister Crowley and the people that was

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involved with him. Oh my god. Like the book even yeah, even

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Parson's death has so much conspiracy behind
it. Some people think it was a

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suicide, other things. It was, you know, it was a murder,

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bad luck. You know. Like
in the book, I want to

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express how much of a spider web
this is. And it's sounding like conspiracy

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theorists, but Alistair Crowley had connections
that had connections. Also, it speculated

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that Hubbard got a lot of his
ideas for scientology from the Thallima Society,

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though says that's not true. But
and it is weird how they have a

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lot of similarities. And I'm like, the Thelma Society existed before scientology,

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So I'm just putting that out there
now. Onto the Hermetic Order of the

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Golden Dawn. And in the book
they mentioned she mentions the Golden Don which

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is another sacred society occult de secret. I can remember them me neither.

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It's all ringing a bell. But
like if someone's going to research in insane

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amount for a book, for a
background of a book, it is oh

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yeah, no doubt. Yeah.
And again like it's all these connections that

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are similar to what happens to everybody
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inspiration from real life. Shit.
Now onto the again to the as the

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name and titles. They practice hermeticism, which is philosophy and religion religious ideology

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attributed to Hermes tris Megistus. I
can't pronounce that, and it's a figure

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that is a combination of the Greek
god Hermes and then god Fuff. Alistair

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Crowley was part of the group between
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He wasn't like because he was bisexual
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Bram Stoker and William Butler Yeats were
part of the Golden Dawn. Alistair and

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Yeats had beef and Alistair was then
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when he formed the Lima. Wow, Wow, Wow. But bram Stoker

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that you know Dracula, bram Stoker
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onto the occultism and practices in Silver
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title of the movie in the is
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Golden Dawn, Yellow Door. Yeah, I see it, I see it.

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The Rights of Saturn, also known
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can't pronounce that was a play or
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and the Ohses. It's I don't
know how to pronounce it and put it

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in and everybody hold on. I'm
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e usis. So the Rights of
Saturn or the rights of Lewis's whatever was

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a play or like a series of
seven plays on each Wednesday that started October

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nineteenth and through November thirtieth, nineteen
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It's supposed to induce an altered state
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is similar to silver nitrate, like
you know what they try to do with

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the movie Trying. They're trying to
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an actual thing that Alistair Crowley did. He wrote this play and he was

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trying to do the same thing that
you Weers did in the book. Wow

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No. So yeah, as you
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you Weres or Wilhem Youwers whatever is
that's what he's based on. Yeah,

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and Alistair Crowley esque character but with
Nazi background, which is you know,

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it's already like Nazis and Alister Crowley, it's all occultism. Another ritual that

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was inspired in the magic of silver
nitrate was a ritual called the a Bremlin

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the Mage, a ritual by the
by a Bremlin the Mage, my bad.

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This particular ritual is to summon your
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eighteen months of strict pious behavior.
Yes, eighteen months. That means you

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have to behave like an ultimate saint. That means no spicy stuff, no

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spicy thoughts, you have to even
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it's just super strict for eighteen months. And then you have to like isolate

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yourself for a certain amount of time. But it's a practitioner, even for

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a split second does something that that's
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to start it over. Even if
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eighteen months, you got to start
over. There are strict rules when it

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comes to his first a practitioner summons
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the practitioner summons the twelve Dukes and
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of summoning the twelve Dukes and Kings
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up on this because if they do, they will they will be free and

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due to you as they see fit, causing supposedly bad luck. And it's

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all for magical powers, like you
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all these powers. Wow. So
Crowley tried to do this at the house

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he bought on Locknest called Bolskin House. However, between Crowley being anything but

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pious and he I mean he gave
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he tried to do the ritual in
a short amount of time. He

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found a manuscript that said six months, and he tried to do it in

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three. So again, this ritel
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and it was already cut like more
in happily. He was like, I'm

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gonna cut it more. Wow,
I don't really expedite this. Yeah.

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it said that he opened a gate
to hell. And also women are not

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allowed to do the a Brumlin ritual
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like if you get like no periods, you're golden, but if you have

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a period, you can't do it. So Bullskin House is supposed to be

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crazy haunted, like to the level
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Is that in Scotland? Is it
in Scotland? I was taking it

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while guess yeah, it's Scotland.
Yeah, okay, okay, oh like

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the monster yes, yes, yeah, okay okay. So, so it's

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supposed to be like crazy haunted,
like the you know, like the printing

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house and silver nitrate like that kind
of haunted. Many people have gone there

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and have so many stories. Jimmy
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Page said he had a bad from
the house. However, he let his

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friend Malcolm Dent live there up until
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where stuff used to happen, doors
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And then the house also caught on
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recently in twenty fifteen and twenty nineteen. Wow. There's also supposed to be

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a whaling lady that appears on the
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twelve Dukes and Kings got their revenge
on Crowley as he died broke and alone

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and a drug addict. So again
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or he didn't finish it and he
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the way, Alistair Crowley was rich. He was a rich dude. Emphasis

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on was was was well, and
then he did this ritual and then like

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shit went downhill for him and for
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Like again conspiracy theories, but it's
very oh my gosh that the bad

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luck between these people. This is
very emphasis in Silver Night Trait and a

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lot of the stuff that that she
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and I thought that was interesting because
she does she does an amazing job

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of getting real life, historical people
or historical shit and just putting it into

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love books. Yeah, but those
are my notes. Wow, I'm so

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glad you brought that because it really
brings a whole different light, like so

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much more depth to Like that's when
I was reading it, I was like,

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oh my god, I know this. I know this, I know

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from your previous Yeah, like I
did this Rabbit hold back in twenty eighteen

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because he's like if you're like into
any kind of occultism, especially modern day

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occultism, which I don't practice.
I just it just scratches an itch in

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my brain to like hear the stories. He's in it. He's in everything

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from tarot cards, music albums.
You see so many people wearing his face

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on shirts. A lot of musicians, the Beatles put him on it out

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in front of an album. I
think I even see I want to see,

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Like there's a few rappers who wore
his shirt, like not his shirt,

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but like a shirt with his face
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people don't actually know how much into
pop culture. Alistair Crowley is put in

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pop culture on to a significant amount, like and even the most best selling

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tarot card deck. I believe he
he was like a what is it called

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those people who designed it, He's
like a code designer. Oh wow.

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And there's many people who still like
follow his practices even today, so he

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never really went away. Yeah,
the Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club, his

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face is right there. Wow,
thing weird. Yeah, to meet you

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yours is an Alister Crowley esque person, and a lot of the bad luck

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and even the way like the way
the publishing office and silver nitrate like it

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burnt down, similar to how all
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That could be reaching, but I
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it's not. Maybe it's inspired from
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like if anyone is going to deep
cut historic research, it is so so

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it could be it could be.
Dang, that's wild. I'm amazed.

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I'm amazed. And there's more to
it, guys, Like if you really

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deep dive, there's more to it. This is already wild. I can't

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imagine deep diving even more. I
already I think my brain would not working.

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Yeah, it's like I told you, guys, it's like a spider

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web. Even the people he know, he knows, like like what's his

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name, Parsons, Even he has
a crazy ass life. Wow, it's

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too much. I can't hand.
I can only handle what you've shared today.

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Yeah yeah, same. All right, So first the spoiler free summary

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straight from the book, and if
you haven't read it, then just I

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don't know, skip like an hour
after this. I don't know how long

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it'll take me. Okay, So
Monterrad has always been overlooked. She's a

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talented sound editor, but she's left
out of the boys club running the film

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industry in nineties Mexico City, and
she's all but invisible to her best friend

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Tistan, a charming, if faded
soap opera star, so she's been in

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love with him since childhood. Then
Tistan discovers his new neighbor is the cult

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horror director Abel Uroeta. He claims
that he can change their lives, even

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if his tail of a Nazi occult
tist imbuing magic into highly volatile silver nitrate

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stock sound like sheer fantasy. The
magic film was never finished, which is

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why his career vanished overnight. He
is cursed. Now, the director wants

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Monterral and Tristan to help him shoot
the missing scene and lift the curse,

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but Monterrat soon notices a dark presence
following her, and Taistan begins to see

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the ghost of his ex girlfriend.
As they work together to unravel the mystery

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of the film and the obscure occultists
who wants to roam their city, Montterral

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and Tristan may find that sorcerers and
magic are not only the stuff of movies.

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Also, Alistair Crowley wants visited Mexico. Oh Wow, Mexico City or

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do you know, I don't remember? Probably, I mean we're else?

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Would he go, like, other
than the Capitol ran Yeah, Mexico City.

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Oh okay, so like we all
said, we were this month ago.

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So I did my best with this
plotline summary. Just like the summary

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says, this book follows monterrat To, who I will refer to as Monzet

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from now on, a woman working
in the man's world of sound editing,

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where she struggles because sexism. Not
only that, but it's also a dying

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business. So this combination makes Monte
hate her life and be miserable. She's

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like, really, uh, what
do they call that? Kill joy?

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Little sour puss a little bit.
She sometimes frustrated me. Yeah, same,

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And also her sister has cancer,
so you know she has a lot

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of feelings. She's a lot going
on. Yeah. Monte's best friend is

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Tristan, a washed up novella star
with a bad reputation, but despite his

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geriatric age, he's still acutey.
He's a hottie. Who did you picture

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him as? Honestly, I didn't
picture anybody for ether for some reason.

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Why who did you picture? So
we share that now or at the end?

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No? Now, okay, I
pictured him as Fernando Colunga and then

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her as Show Rodriguez. That would
have been a great way to picture her.

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I didn't picture them as anybody.
Also, Gina Rodriguez, No,

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no, miss Schell Rodrigue strictly who
I pictured her as, not Miss Gino.

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No, I could see her as
Miss Gina also. Yeah, I'll

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definitely see that. The attitude wise, I could and I could see it

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attitude. Yeah, okay, you
know what, I'm starting to see it

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a little bit. Yeah, okay, okay, Well, in that case,

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I pictured them as Justin Baldoni and
Gina Rodriguez. Oh yes, I

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like that. Yeah, yeah,
because he's cute and it's so emphasized how

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hot he is. Yeah yeah,
yeah, okay, let's go with that.

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Yeah, let's go with that.
Yeah. Yeah. They're both like

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in their late thirties, like thirty
eight, I want to say it was.

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Yeah. So they've been bff since
they were kids, they grew up

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together, They've been through thick and
thin, but like in a long term,

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like a lot of long term friendships, there's a lot of resentment between

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them, and they can both be
selfish and toxic at times, especially because

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Monte has always a low key love
Tristan and he knows he's a baddie and

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Loki takes advantage of her a lot. Yeah. Also, they're both broke

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and by so they're just a couple
of broke, bisexual besties. Yeah they

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are. Tristan's bad reputation can be
attributed to his younger days of partying,

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drinking too much, and most of
all, getting into a car accident while

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drunk. In which is ex girlfriend
Karina a famous novella Nepple Baby Dies.

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Did you picture her as anyone?
Yeah? Aida from No. I picture

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someone cuter? Oh yeah, yeah, what about blonde Angel? Maybe?

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But you know, I pictured her
as oh my god, I didn't want

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to, but you know the oh
and is that her name? Oh yeah,

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yeah, the blonde one, Yeah, blonde one. Okay, I

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could see it. I could see
it. I did not picture anybody with

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the characters. They were just headless. That's so strange. I started making

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a movie and because I was like, because I nitpick, like all the

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actors and like there's very few.
Like I'm like, who would be a

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perfect role for this? And I'm
like no, no, no, no,

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no, I need somebody unknown,
somebody unknown apply for the role of

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these characters. Please, I can
just imagin I read like a whole,

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like like a series of like do
you want to be the character in my

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head? So Kadina's dad, who
never liked three Stan, blamed three Stan

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for the accident, and he fueled
a media campaign against him, which led

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to three Stand losing his novela Roles. And now he mostly makes his money

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but not enough doing voice over work. So one day gets the wrong of

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mail to his apartment and he learns
that former Golden Age movie director Abel Urueta

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is his neighbor. Tristan and Monse
used to watch his horror movies growing up,

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so this excites Tristan and he goes
right away to deliver Abel his mal

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with the hopes of befriending Abel.
And Tristan had just moved to that apartment

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complex after he broke up with his
ex Yolanda, and that is another source

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of resembling between him and Monset that
he only talks to Monse when he's single,

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otherwise he has no time for her. We all have no friends like

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that, right, yeah, yes, So Tristan and Abel start chatting,

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and Abel learns from Tristan that Monte
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and the sparks Abel's interest, and
he invites Didstan to come over again

404
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:51.480
with Monse, so then he ends
up telling her and then they go over

405
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:56.680
or he invites them. He tells
Monse about Abel inviting them for dinner,

406
00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:00.440
and he has to convince her because
she's so she doesn't never never wants to

407
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:04.680
do anything other than work, and
then she finally agrees. So then at

408
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:10.400
dinner, Avestan and Monte they talk
about her movies, their childhoods how Monte

409
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:14.680
had to defend the stand even though
she was smaller than him from Bulize,

410
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:19.599
even from back of their childhood,
she was he was taking advantage of their

411
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.720
friendship, right Yeah, And they
talked about she had to usa Kine,

412
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.839
which was a child because she had
some kind of leg issue. I forgot

413
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:30.680
exactly what it was. Monte shares
about her sound editing job and the company

414
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:34.559
she works for, Aunt that is, and so this leads a Beil to

415
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:37.039
ask if she can do audio editing
for movies, and then they talk about

416
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:43.440
cursed films and then finally Avil tells
them about his film Beyond the Yellow Door

417
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:49.559
being cursed and about one of the
film's writers, Willhelm fried fried Rich,

418
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.839
Friedrich, Frederick, Frederick Fredrick.
Sorry, it can't be fried Rich,

419
00:32:54.119 --> 00:33:00.640
it has to be Frederick. So
Willhelm you yours yours. I don't know,

420
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:04.559
but I'm saying, Willhelm, I
think it's pronounced you you weres.

421
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:10.799
That makes more sense than yours yours
about him being a German occultist, and

422
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:16.240
then beyond that, Wilhelm had Nazi
connections and secrets surrounding him, and Wilhelm

423
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:22.720
told conflicting stories about himself and his
origin, conflating the secrets and mystery even

424
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:27.880
more. Abel mentioned that Wilhelm suddenly
died after being mugged, and then the

425
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:31.920
movie lost its funding, and then
misfortune followed the crew everybody involved, so

426
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:38.359
things like people getting into accidents,
not getting new roles, a beil in

427
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:45.480
his career ending. So after Monse
and Tristan leave, Monsas starts thinking about

428
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:51.400
pitching the Beyond the Yellow Door Curse
and the story about Wilhelm being a Nazi

429
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:57.720
occultist to a show that her friend
Cornelia works on called Enigma, and it's

430
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:00.920
like a show like about mids conspiracy, conspiracies, UFOs, aliens, and

431
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:04.440
whatnot. I was trying to think
of a similar show, but I couldn't

432
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:06.720
think of like I know the shows, but I can't think of the names.

433
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.400
Oh, Like for me, it
was like Coast to Coast maybe,

434
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:15.599
but it's a TV show. I
would think like Extra Normal, yeah,

435
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:19.599
or like what's my favorite that one
show? I like Paranormal Caught on camera,

436
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:24.239
But it's more like someone reporting a
story, which I don't know if

437
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:28.559
there's like an English equivalent. All
I can think of is and then there

438
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:30.920
has to be. But I think
of like the shows like on the History

439
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:35.360
Channel where they say, like the
Aliens built the pyramid something like that.

440
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:42.239
Yeah. So meanwhile, Tristan doesn't
get an ad a gig that he auditioned

441
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.119
for, and he gets tricked into
an interview where the reporter initially says she

442
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:49.400
wanted to talk to him about his
voice over work, but then she started

443
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:53.239
asking questions about his ex Garina and
about his partying, his drug use,

444
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:58.360
his sexuality, and he gets hala
mad. So then he copes by getting

445
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:01.079
shift faced and he goes to Montes
apartment at one am. What kind of

446
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:05.920
unguardly hour is that? What kind
of shit is that it'd be mad,

447
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:09.599
yeah, and then she gets through
it off yeah, and she's she's pretty

448
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:12.719
mean to him. She said,
what the fuck are you doing here,

449
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:19.760
dumb bitch? Basically yeah, very
yeah, but then she calms down.

450
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:23.519
What Dhistan mentioned that next week is
a ten year anniversary of getting A's death,

451
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:27.599
so then she feels bad. But
it's like he's milking this too.

452
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:30.440
It's like, come on, it's
been ten years. Stop, but he's

453
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:35.599
never worked on himself and worked through
it. Mm hmm, you're right,

454
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:37.559
yeah, does that monces fault?
I don't think so, it's not once

455
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:43.400
as fault. No. So they
talked a little bit about the accident,

456
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:46.760
getting us drug use and the drinking
getting out of hand. Before the accident,

457
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:52.719
Anthonistan not doing anything about it because
he didn't want to, like not

458
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:57.320
telling anyone about her problems, because
he didn't want it to affect the upcoming

459
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.320
project of theirs that they had together, like an upcome novela. So that's

460
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:05.199
why he didn't say anything. So
he feels selfish about the way he thinks

461
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:08.000
about Karina's death because he's like,
he makes it about himself no matter what,

462
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:12.679
because he's pretty selfish. But that's
you know's how people for you.

463
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.960
He can't help it? Is he
a Leo? Did they ever say?

464
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:21.280
Probably? They don't say. I
don't think, but I would not put

465
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.639
it past him very leo coded Yeah
yeah, and I do think wants to

466
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:35.280
subscorpio. Yees. Yeah. So
then the next morning before Monset drops him

467
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:39.280
off, recent invites Wanta to join
him and Abel for antique chopping. Cool,

468
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:45.199
So Moncen meets with Cornelia to picture
the idea about a ben An episode

469
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:50.760
on an avin'z movie. But Cornelia's
she's not interested and she's more interested like

470
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:55.000
in horror stories about Likena and whatnot, which I get it fair, Yeah,

471
00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:00.840
I mean me too. Yeah,
Cornelia is interesting sit in the German

472
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:05.880
occultist angle, so she asked Montet
to find out more information about Wilhelm and

473
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:09.199
to film a pre interview with Abed
and mind you, this is unpaid labor,

474
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:15.039
but okay, yeah yeah. The
weekend rolls around, so then they

475
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:21.599
go antique shopping at the Lagunia market
where they come across a Nazi memorabilia hard

476
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:24.920
word, good job. They talk
a little bit more about Wilhelm, Wilhelm

477
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:32.440
probably being a Nazi after they see
some Nazi shit at this uh antique place,

478
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:37.519
and so then Avil tells them about
the gold Shirts, which MJ informed

479
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:43.800
us about. Yes, think you, MJ. And Abel says that Wilhelm

480
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:46.239
is a lot more subtle with this
was a lot more subtle with his racism,

481
00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:52.000
and he was more into Ruin's magic
and film. But he admits that

482
00:37:52.239 --> 00:38:00.519
occultists believed racist theories about eugenics and
Arian superiority, and Wilhelm was the not

483
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.760
any different, and that he meddled
in eugenic groups, but that more than

484
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:07.719
a racist, he was like an
opportunistic kind of person. Yeah. I

485
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:15.320
also like how Sylvia always really puts
emphasis on eugenics in a lot of her

486
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:17.719
books. She really does, because
it's there. It's there, it's not,

487
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:21.119
I don't know, it talked about
enough, and she just weased it

488
00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:27.199
into this fantastic story with history and
horror and amazing m So, when they

489
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:30.719
get back to it, but it's
an apartment, he tells the Montsanti stand

490
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:36.519
more about Wilhelm and how Wilhelm thought
Arians were a superior race they had magical

491
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:42.000
abilities, but also that the Aztec
and Inca had magical ability, so he

492
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:46.960
thought Mexicans descending from the Aztec and
Inca were also capable of magical abilities,

493
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:54.239
and he tells them that Wilhelm thought
films were magical, a belief he learned

494
00:38:54.440 --> 00:39:00.360
from famous occultist Alistair Crowley. Again, thank you, m Jennie, and

495
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:05.960
that Wilhelm believed that magic rights needed
to be performed in front of a large

496
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:09.519
audience, and the energy from the
large audience would power the spells being cast

497
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:16.119
in the film, and that a
film a shot with silver nitrate specifically,

498
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:22.280
would be like a powerful conduit because
silver is a powerful conduit for spells.

499
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:27.280
So hopefully I explained that good because
it was a lot like on ways it

500
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:31.599
made sense. It made sense.
So Abel tells them that shooting the film

501
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:37.760
Beyond the Yellow Door was hella expensive
despite having a wealthy patron, and one

502
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:44.400
of those reasons was because Wilhelm wanted
the film dubbed because of his magic systems

503
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:49.000
ideas and whatever. He talks more
about that, He talks more about who

504
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:53.039
the patren was, and they found
out it was silent film star Alma Montero,

505
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:58.440
and then I won't say it wants
to interview Abel for Enigma, but

506
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:00.199
he's not really into it, and
then they leave. He's like closed off.

507
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.360
When she starts like asking him,
he immediately stops talking. Yeah,

508
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:10.960
and she's very direct, Yeah yeah, in a way is there upfront brute?

509
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:17.920
Yeah yeah. There's no charismatic approach
to her line of questioning. Unlike

510
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:24.199
Tristan, she has no risk.
Yeah yeah, so I but it's not

511
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:29.599
into it. And so next Mona
tries to research more about Wilhelm, but

512
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.360
she barely finds any information on him, and then she also can't find a

513
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:37.199
copy of Beyond the Yellow Door.
She considers visiting a horn dot creep that

514
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:42.599
she knows Fernando to help her with
the research, but she doesn't want to

515
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:45.199
deal with him, so she decides
against it at this point, and then

516
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:50.039
she ends up finding a picture of
Abel Alma Montero and some pretty lady named

517
00:40:50.159 --> 00:41:00.519
Clarimont Bauer and Wilhelm yours, yours, yours, and they sorry. They

518
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:04.960
hang out with a bell again,
and he ends up telling Monsen Tristan a

519
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:08.519
little bit more about Wilhelm, including
a time when it Wilhelm surrounded a ghost

520
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:15.000
at a seance. So even also
tells them about Wilhelm's belief that if sound

521
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:20.760
and visuals emerged, it would have
produce powerful magic. So the dialogue of

522
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:24.400
the film being the Spell, the
three actors on the screen, the magicians

523
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:30.360
and the Runes, would be projected
during the credits and then all shot as

524
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:34.559
a movie for cohesion and for the
magic to build up over time, like

525
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.679
as the movie's plane something like that. Also, this before you go on

526
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:45.119
This reminds me of the movie Incantation
on Netflix. I haven't seen it,

527
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:46.679
and remember how everybody's like, oh
my god, if you watch it,

528
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:52.480
it's like you're actively participating in like
witchcraft or something, and you'd have nightmares.

529
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:55.440
I remember when it came out,
everybody was streaking out, which it

530
00:41:55.559 --> 00:42:00.559
reminded me of that, like the
Yellow Door. Yes, this is also

531
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:06.639
what people said about American horror story
Thede with the oh aha yeah, where

532
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:08.800
they say the guy's name and they're
like, oh, if you see it,

533
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:13.840
you're like participator in and letting them
into your house. It's just similar

534
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:20.400
to what like yours is trying to
scare creep not watching those that movie or

535
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:23.360
that episode. So i Bil tells
them that the goal of the Spell was

536
00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:28.920
for Alma to have a comeback and
get some of her youthful beauty back and

537
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:32.039
that he Wilhelm and Alma were going
to be the magicians, but then Alma

538
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:37.920
was recast and the role was given
to Claremont because of Wilhelm in Agingavahito kind

539
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:42.920
of way led to Alma and he
actually wanted to use a spell to save

540
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.159
his life because he was sick,
and at least that's what he told them

541
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:52.079
at that point. So the spell
required three spell casters, the father in

542
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:58.320
all powerful male force, the son
the innocent, and the mother the feminine

543
00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:04.440
principle of magic, the Holy Trinity. Yeah, exactly. So Avel has

544
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.480
a full blown cheese my session with
them and he tells them like, you

545
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:10.079
know, the whole thing that went
down or that whole thing went to shit

546
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:15.960
when Alma found out, and that
they also found out that Claremont and Wilhelm

547
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:20.280
were hooking up. And I don't
think I mentioned it, but Clairemont was

548
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:23.679
Avel's fiance, which is why it
was a big deal. Yes, yeah,

549
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:29.719
yeah, And so Wilhelm and Claremont
were cheating on their spouses Alma and

550
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.480
Avin and hooking up and Alma only
found out because another friend and part of

551
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:42.679
their little culture's group, Jose so
Alma cut the whole thing off. She

552
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:47.039
confiscated the film, and then Wilhelm
died not of an illness but being mugged,

553
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:53.440
and battleck followed everybody after that.
So then Abel agrees to help Monsee

554
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:59.440
with the Enigma Show if she helps
him finish the movie, thus finishing the

555
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:02.920
spell to hopefully break the curse.
A Ben tells them he has the scene

556
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:07.599
still and he was able to hide
it before Alma confiscated the film, and

557
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:14.559
Monte is shocked, shocked that he
has a can, a silver nitrate can,

558
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:19.480
which because it's dangerous, it's a
fire waiting to happen. And so

559
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:23.760
they Tristan and go back on and
forth on whether to help Abel or not,

560
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:27.840
but they ultimately decide to help him, and so they record the audio

561
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:30.440
for the scene, like to double
it over whatever they have to do.

562
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:37.840
So Tristan ends up getting an offer
for a lead role for novella after they

563
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:42.800
filmed this, and then something good
happens to have been too, but I

564
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:45.840
forgot about it was. I don't
remember what happens to a Bel either,

565
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:50.639
but I do know that once his
sister doesn't have can she yeah, she's

566
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:57.119
cured over cancer after this, Tristan
got the novella, the novella what happened

567
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:00.360
to a Ben? I don't remember. I guess I didn't write it down.

568
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:02.559
Doesn't he get like money from something? He gets like No, he

569
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:07.320
gets like a I want to say, it's like a film that's going to

570
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.679
be made about him, like a
honoring him, or like a little something

571
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:14.719
like that. I want to say, yeah, yeah, that sounds right.

572
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:19.360
Yeah. So then they go back
to Avel's apartment to hang out with

573
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:22.320
him and to give him a copy
of the film the scene that they filmed,

574
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:29.280
and there Abel gives Monse a book
that belonged to Wilhelm, called the

575
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:31.760
House of Infinite Wisdom. So then
they get drunk and they get back to

576
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:37.119
Montes and Tristan tries to hook up
with mont because he's drunk and horny,

577
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:44.320
but she turns him down. And
then the spookiness it starts right away right

578
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:47.719
after this. So Tristan sees a
figure in the hallway and at first he

579
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:52.760
thinks it's Monse, but then he
realizes that Oncet left and also it's not

580
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:57.599
a person at all. It's Garina's
ghost. It was blood coming at her

581
00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:00.360
mouth that scared me. Yeah,
I read it. It's like the same

582
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:05.480
or when I listened to it,
Yeah, yeah, and it's like things.

583
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:09.360
They thought the spell was working because
things were going good until he starts

584
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:14.199
seeing and I think it starts going
bad for him first because he starts seeing

585
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:19.159
Karina's ghosts. Yeah, but then
slowly as you'll you'll go into it,

586
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:24.239
everything goes to shad for them.
Yeah, bad luck. So Montas starts

587
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:31.199
reading it Wilhelm's book, and she
becomes obsessed, but she learns basically how

588
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:38.079
to do magic and ruins from becoming
obsessed. So she's having fun celebrating with

589
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:42.599
her sister Adiselli, you know,
about her being cancer free. And then

590
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:45.480
when she comes back home, she
comes back to hella messages from Tristan and

591
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:50.079
so finally she goes over there.
Anthonysaan tells her that he saw Karina and

592
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:52.480
she doesn't really believe. She thinks
that he's on drugs because he's you know,

593
00:46:52.880 --> 00:47:00.679
been issues in the past. Yeah. Yeah. So then also shows

594
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:06.199
monset envelope he received address to Abel, and it contains feathers, seven rusty

595
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:09.400
nails, and a long piece of
thread nodded seven times and they're like what

596
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:14.239
the fuck? And they're like,
Abel has explaining to do. So they

597
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:15.880
go to Aven and he's like,
this is just a protection spell from my

598
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:19.199
friend Jose, and they're like why
do we, like, why should we

599
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:22.840
need a protection like you said this
was just to lift the curse, Like

600
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.159
what the fuck? He's like,
oh, I kind of left some stuff

601
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:32.400
out. So then they tell avel
that Ristan saw Karina's ghost and they're like,

602
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:36.360
well, maybe this Jose guy can
help us, but Avent shows Sasha

603
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:39.320
down and he's like, no,
Jose doesn't want to revisit his past about

604
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:45.199
Wilhelm and whatever, and so then
he just advises Tristan to light white candles

605
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:51.119
and get flowers or incense to appease
Garina's ghost. Eventually, Montet finds a

606
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:54.639
secret message Wilhelm wrote in the book
and it's basically his life story. So

607
00:47:55.119 --> 00:48:01.159
to summarize, he's a shitty,
racist murderer. That is the yeah,

608
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:07.360
yeah, perfect summary. So after
she finishes reading Wilhelm's life story, she

609
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:10.159
gets a call from Abel and he
tells her he's going to die at two

610
00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:14.840
twenty nine pm. So then she
races to meet him at the shopping center

611
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:19.079
he's at Abel that tells Monte that
she had a vision that his throat was

612
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:24.719
slashed and when he was into you
know, the cult and learning magic whatever

613
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:28.960
his skill set was, Claire,
I can never say this word, Claire,

614
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:32.719
clairvoyance. Yeah, and one of
the two. I said, one

615
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:36.679
of the two, I said,
Clari, because you both said clairvoyance and

616
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:40.159
I said clairvoyance. See, oh, it's like the same thing basically.

617
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:46.159
So he also tells Moncet that he
got a call from Alma Montero threatening him

618
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:52.840
that for him to give her the
film and anything he owns of Wilhelms or

619
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:57.440
he'd be sorry, and that she
knew he was dabbling with Wilhelm's spell.

620
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:02.800
So then he survived past two twenty
nine pm emphasis on pm PM and Monce

621
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:07.000
gives him a ride to his apartment. But first I better throw some nils

622
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:10.800
behind his back as they walk away, like as a counter spell. So

623
00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:15.760
then Mons agrees to get the film
from Montha. It's on Monday. She

624
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:19.679
can't go until then because they're clothes
or something. But I bet it does

625
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.920
not make it to Monday, just
like his vision, his throat was slashed

626
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:27.599
at two twenty nine am, And
how did he not think of am being

627
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:31.159
a possibility. I know he really
thought he was good. Yeah. So,

628
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:37.039
when Mons discovers AB's body she experiences
in his apartment, she experiences a

629
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:42.559
deafening silence like no other lack of
presence. She feels a presence there,

630
00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:45.840
and when she tries to leave the
apartment, the doorknob burned her, So

631
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:51.320
she's like, what the fuck is
going on? And Monce later learns that

632
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:54.559
Tristan was unavailable. She tries calling
him when this is going on. He's

633
00:49:54.800 --> 00:50:00.280
unavailable during all of this because he's
hooking up with his ex, so she's

634
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:07.239
still getting surpressed. Surprise, surprise, he's been a hoe. Oh and

635
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:13.239
Monte gets arrested as a person of
interest for Aven's murder, and he does

636
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:15.760
end up bailing her out, so
at least he showed up at some point

637
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:22.679
right at the point some point eventually
he does save her from JOm So Monte

638
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:27.719
and Tristan decide to spend their Christmas
figuring out who killed Abel, and they

639
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:34.400
figure either Jose Claremont or Alma will
have answers, so Tristan agrees to use

640
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:38.880
his connections in the entertainment network or
business to get Alma's contact info, but

641
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:43.119
in the meantime, they break into
Avant's apartment, which is now a crime

642
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:46.920
scene, to retrieve the footage they
filmed, but it's gone, it's not

643
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:52.400
there. Don't don't dun. Monte
suspects that Willhelm didn't die from being mugged

644
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:57.880
and that maybe Alma had a role
in his death. Tristan ends up getting

645
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:01.559
Alma's number and he talks who to
who he thinks is her niece, and

646
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:07.480
then yeah, he and Monset meet
with said niece. They mentioned they want

647
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:13.719
to niece quote. I called it, Yeah, I called it immediately.

648
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:17.360
I was like, I don't know
about that. So they mentioned that they

649
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:22.039
want to talk to Alma, but
her niece informs them that Alma no longer

650
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:27.440
does interviews after suffering from a stroke. So they talk about Wilhelm for a

651
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:31.760
bit, and then they learn about
his cult from Almasnie and that Claremont and

652
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:37.840
Jose remain loyal followers of Wilhelm's cult
and that the cult remains active. Monte

653
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:44.800
mentioned to Tristan that she felt bad
vibes, the vibes were off from Almasnie.

654
00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:49.639
She was right, yeah, she
was. Then Monte ends up meeting

655
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:53.920
with that creep Fernando to get Jose's
contact info, but before she does that,

656
00:51:54.119 --> 00:52:00.320
she practices wilhelms runs. I don't
remember how she doesn't, but anyway,

657
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:04.679
she sees them and then she like
it's like just writing on a piece

658
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:09.039
of paper or something. I didn't
remember the occasion that leads her to part

659
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:12.960
Like is she like, is she
just at home practicing? Like that's what

660
00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:15.199
I remember, Like, yeah,
I thought she was. Okay, she

661
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:20.960
might be, yeah, okay,
that's the only place she goes. She's

662
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:25.559
out on the street doing research now. So Fermeno doesn't have hosts in number,

663
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:31.440
but he tells Montet that she can
find Josset at this one coffee shop

664
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:36.360
where he frequents. Montt goes there, but she doesn't find hosts, so

665
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:43.559
instead she heads to the building of
Claremont's publishing company. She heads there after

666
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:45.920
she leaves the restanding message letting him
know where she's going to be. So

667
00:52:46.119 --> 00:52:52.440
while she is at the b building, she gets the same creepy feeling she

668
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:55.880
had at Aveda's apartment and something was
for her name that was scary. Also,

669
00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:01.840
oh Anne touches her hand and then
she runs out a building naturally,

670
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:08.079
Yes, naturally. So she runs
outside and she runs into Tristan, who

671
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:13.599
is his shirt collar is covering a
blood for some reason. So then it

672
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:17.400
turns out that Tristan was bleeding because
he saw Karina's ghost again at a photo

673
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:21.599
shoot he was doing, and he
tries to run away when he saw her,

674
00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:23.440
and then he hit his face and
this is not a good look at

675
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:29.920
the photoshooters that's supposed to relaunched his
career. And the agent I forgot her

676
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:34.639
name already whatever, she thinks he's
on drugs again, So then it's the

677
00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:37.400
bad look. Yeah, you know
what happens to Monsett, Like all her

678
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:42.039
hours get cut at her job.
I think that's right. That happens too.

679
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:45.760
Yeah, So Tristan wants him to
get Olympia and burn all of Wilhelm's

680
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:50.079
things, but Monse does not want
to burn his things. Wilhelm things,

681
00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:54.039
She's obsessed. Yeah, So then
they argue about that and Monce gets Hella

682
00:53:54.119 --> 00:54:00.280
mat at Triestan because he insinuates that
Mose has a crush on Wilhelm and that

683
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:02.719
she tends to get crushes. The
way he says it, he's like,

684
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:06.960
that's almosted up. He couldn't,
like, like it's a low blow,

685
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:13.320
and of course he would think that
because he's a conceited leo, like there's

686
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:16.320
no yeah, yeah, but he's
right. She does. She has had

687
00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:20.639
a crush on him since they were
kids. No, but she for sure

688
00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:23.280
doesn't have a crush on Wilhelm.
She's upset, no magic, yeah,

689
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:30.159
and like enveloped by it. But
she Yeah, I didn't get crush vibes.

690
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:32.760
No, no, yeah, he
just assumes because it's a man,

691
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:37.400
I guess. Yeah. He also
comes off a little like jealous. Yeah,

692
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:42.800
no he is, and he talks
about feeling jealous. Yeah. They

693
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:45.199
get over their little fight and they
decide to look for Claramont and he'll set

694
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:50.880
for help before Tristan. And once
I go to Claremont, Tristan meets up

695
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:53.639
again with Alma's niece, Medisa.
I did write her name. I guess

696
00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:57.719
she asked to me with him,
because she expresses like some concern about Alma

697
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:04.559
or something. So Ustan and Medissa
are hella flirty, but she gets straight

698
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:07.320
to the point and she's like,
if you and Monce have any of Wilhelm's

699
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:10.679
belongings, I'll buy them off of
you. My aunt wants them whatever.

700
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:15.199
So then Marissa also tells them that
the colt has been more active than ever

701
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:22.119
and that she's seen Wilhelm's ruins near
her home and that Wilhelm is was and

702
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:27.280
may still be a dangerous man.
So is like, weird out and he's

703
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:30.199
like, well, we don't even
have anything of Wilhelms. I don't know

704
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:31.800
why you think that, and then
he leaves whatever, But she must she

705
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:36.840
knows about the book, right,
yeah, she does. Yeah. Later

706
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:42.960
once Tristan show up unannounced to Claremont's
house and they learned that Claremont is the

707
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:47.559
one who stole the film from Abel
not what's her name, Alma, and

708
00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:52.199
she lies and says that ivn't sold
it to her for protection and they're like,

709
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:55.880
well that was some good protection.
He fucking died, bitch. So

710
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:06.320
also tells Sadistan and Mons that in
casting the spell with Aven they said things

711
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:10.719
meaning Wilhelm's magic and emotion again and
to end the curse they need to finish

712
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:15.239
the spell and bringing Wilhelm back to
life. So she tells him that the

713
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:20.360
actual goal of the spell was to
bring Wilhelm back like not only to cure

714
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:24.639
his illness, but like I mean
later they put the pieces together from reading.

715
00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:29.400
Yeah, that he was gonna like
end his own life and then he

716
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:30.719
was gonna be brought back to life
or whatever. That was a whole to

717
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:39.320
be all powerful like Jesus. Yeah, just like Easter and or as they

718
00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:44.480
are rebranding. No, they're not
rebranding. But did you see everyone calling

719
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:47.199
it Resurrection Sunday instead of Easter and
they're like making a whole big deal about

720
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:52.400
it. Oh, because like Easter
is the thing for Esther. Yeah,

721
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:57.079
Istar, Istar is it? I
don't know how to pronounce it, Ishtar.

722
00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:01.480
That sounds familiar. Whatever is the
goddess of fertility. Yeah, Easter

723
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:06.800
is based off of mm hmmmm,
so that's why it sounds familiar. Yeah,

724
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:10.039
it's a pagan holiday, guys.
And also I started writing Claire instead

725
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:16.320
the Claremont because my hands got real
tired. So Claire Claria gets Claire gets

726
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:21.159
mad when Monsa tells her they need
to think about it before handing the film

727
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:25.679
over, and Claire attempts to cast
a spell on them, but once it's

728
00:57:25.719 --> 00:57:30.760
in her witchy era, so she
casts the counterspell and they leave. It

729
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:35.400
works because she's learned the magic,
so it sounds scary. He's so scared.

730
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:39.320
Yeah, I feel him because I
would be the stunned in this situation,

731
00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:45.920
me too, and MJ would be
mone she would company. Yeah,

732
00:57:47.159 --> 00:58:01.000
I mean you can stop. Are
you scaring me? Okay? So back

733
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:07.440
at Months's apartment after waking up at
almost god forsaken time at three a m.

734
00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:15.320
Yeah, see, that's why you
should be scared up. So she

735
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:21.440
hears she hears someone saying follow me
into the night, and first she thinks

736
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:23.480
it's Three Stand But why the hell
would he say that? And also she

737
00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:29.599
realizes it's not his voice because they
were laying in bed together. Yeah,

738
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:32.639
oh yeah yeah, and then she's
like, oh, why so like spooning

739
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:37.679
me? Why am I little spoon? But it was interesting, Yeah,

740
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:42.199
it was not him. It was
so creepy. I feel like yours has

741
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:45.599
like so like it's becoming as obsessed
with once as she is with him.

742
00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:53.000
Yeah, because that's his ticket to
becoming again. Yeah again. Yeah.

743
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:59.119
The next day, the Stand tells
Monce they're gonna have to pick a side

744
00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:01.360
Claire or give one of them the
film, and I was like, no,

745
00:59:01.519 --> 00:59:06.039
we're keeping the film. So they
go back to Three Stands apartment only

746
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.880
to find that it's been ramsacked,
probably by Claire or Alma looking for the

747
00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:13.880
film. And a and I don't
know if I'm pronouncing this right, A

748
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:22.360
vegue veg viser vig visir, vig
visir. Okay, that sounds more.

749
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:24.440
Yeah, sounds better than how I
said it. So yeah, a veg

750
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:29.840
visir symbol was painted above his bed. And this is one of the symbols

751
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:34.679
or runs that Will Holme uses and
wrote about in his book. So then

752
00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:38.000
they get a buzz from the intercom
and a man Jose turns out to be

753
00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:42.480
Josse, tells them that they're being
followed and they need to get the fuck

754
00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:47.840
out. So they're fleeing and they
they're fleeing with Josse. They follow Josse

755
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:52.639
and they're fleeing and they almost get
attacked by like these evil magical dogs,

756
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:57.079
but with the help of Hossa's magic, they get away. Hossys I covered

757
00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:00.599
also in tattoos of like his own
style of rune, so that's pretty cool.

758
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:06.320
Joset tells them that cleares people the
cult were behind the attack, but

759
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:09.920
they're not the ones that broke into
three Stands apartment that was Alma. There's

760
01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:15.679
just been an attack left and right, both sides. Yeah, So Joset

761
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:22.440
tells them that Wilhelms spell needs to
be undone because when monse the spell,

762
01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:27.920
it led to a sort of a
nuclear explosion but for magic, and now

763
01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:31.639
all of the magic partictioners are hell
strong. Josset also tells them that Alma

764
01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:36.320
has an aged a day since Wilhelm's
death, and they're like, oh,

765
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:43.760
Marisa is Alma. But also,
hadn't Monts has seen a picture of her?

766
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:47.159
Wouldn't you have recognized her? Yeah, but she looks slightly different.

767
01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:51.000
I think I came up with the
theory for this, and that's like she

768
01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:54.360
was a movie star, so she
either wore prosthetics or she got cosmetic surgery.

769
01:00:54.719 --> 01:01:00.639
That was my theory that I felt
the same about surgery. But there's

770
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:02.400
something like they like, look for
mill it's her. It looks like her,

771
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:07.360
but it doesn't look like her and
like not identical, just resemblance,

772
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:13.079
a strong resemblance. That's why I
thought she either got cosmetic surgery or the

773
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:20.800
wearing prosthetics. This makes sense now, So then Jose admits that Alma stabbed

774
01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:24.880
Wilhelm after Jose told her the truth
about Wilhelm's lies and cheating, and Jose

775
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:30.079
tells him a little bit more about
Wilhelms could and how he organized it,

776
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:36.920
like on a racial hierarchy, giving
power and preferential treatment to Whitexicans, to

777
01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:39.719
the white Tinos. Yes, the
white Tinos. With the song, I

778
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:43.440
was like, pause, did you
guys hear that song? Yeah, he

779
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:51.719
sent it to me something everyone else
very Latino vibes. I threw up a

780
01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:57.519
little bit when I saw it.
Yeah, she get trolled so hard deserved,

781
01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:01.039
so she would be a part of
this called I'm just kidding one hundred

782
01:02:01.039 --> 01:02:07.679
percent, she would be preferred in
this hierarchy. So then here Jose talks

783
01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:14.639
about elite Mexicans loving their European roots
and the ideology of bettering the race or

784
01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:19.159
mejor la rasa as it's known in
Spanish. So Josed tells him that he

785
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:23.079
was down to kill Wilhelm because Willielm
had no chill, no limits to what

786
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:30.159
he would do for power, and
that Wilhelm was planning on killing an unhoused

787
01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:34.079
person for the final ruin of his
spell. So he was like, fuck

788
01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:37.519
this man. So Tistana is over
it. He's like, just cut us

789
01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:39.920
loose, from this, like I
want nothing to do with this, please,

790
01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:49.199
and he's like oh yeahweh yahway and
who says like, I'm sorry,

791
01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:52.639
baby boy, but you're in it
now. And that's what they get for

792
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:55.400
being a part of the me teachers
and for helping him Ben. You know,

793
01:02:55.519 --> 01:02:59.960
they didn't know and neither did I
bet he didn't know the full truth.

794
01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:01.679
No, but they should have been
like it sounds too good to be

795
01:03:01.800 --> 01:03:05.639
true. And well they talk about
it, and they did, but they're

796
01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:09.159
like, it's just a harmless man
with fantasies. They convinced themselves, because

797
01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:14.000
in the end, what's the harmon? Yeah, he's gonna get his wish,

798
01:03:14.239 --> 01:03:16.280
we might get good luck or nothing
happening. Yeah, And then like

799
01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:22.199
the entire time I thought Uta was
going to sacrifice them, I was like,

800
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:27.840
oh no, you thought I thought
he was bad. He was just

801
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:34.800
he's just a naive as it's a
promise. Yeah. Yeah. So Jose

802
01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:37.400
tells them that they can end a
spell by replicating it as much as possible

803
01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:42.239
by using the six runs and their
own blood and drawing the runs on the

804
01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:45.519
silver nitrate can of film, saying
the spell and then destroying the film.

805
01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:50.760
But Jose doesn't exactly know what runs
Wilhelm intended to use at the end of

806
01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:53.920
the film, but Avent does.
So Jay's like, hey, Ristan,

807
01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:57.360
you know how to summon ghosts?
Like that's kind of your thing, right,

808
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:01.639
Like it sounds like please wait yeah
wait, yeah, they came in,

809
01:04:03.639 --> 01:04:10.639
they come in bus, but they
cannot so yeah, he doesn't want

810
01:04:10.679 --> 01:04:14.320
to offirst, but finally he agrees. So then the hold the seance a

811
01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:19.039
good old seance, and Throughstan's hands, Avan writes the ruins for the film

812
01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:26.679
air, Earth, water, life, fire, and then the fire nation

813
01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:32.559
that's what I thought of what I
was reading it, and then the opener,

814
01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:38.519
and then finally the vagas run.
But then Wilhelm he's not invited,

815
01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:43.840
but he crashes the sands that bitch
will him? Yeah, and Jose gets

816
01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:46.679
hurt during you know, this attack
from Wilhelm. So now they had to

817
01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:51.480
proceed without Jose with the rest of
the plan. So Steven's scarier for recent

818
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:59.719
yeahcent, So go to Antarts to
retrieve the film, but while they're there,

819
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.440
Ama attacks them and they managed to
get away with Montes and magic that

820
01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:08.039
she learned from the book, but
the danger isn't over yet, so then

821
01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:11.480
they get chased and caught and taken
by the cold. Claire has a room

822
01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:15.400
set up with two projectors, and
just they get taken to her building.

823
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:19.400
The edition is building, so Claire, Yeah, publishing building. Yeah,

824
01:05:21.079 --> 01:05:26.760
the building, yes. So Claire
has a room set up with two projectors

825
01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:30.000
and a portable screen, and then
two bowls next to each projector, and

826
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:34.280
one is filled with water and one
is empty. So then Claire's delicis some

827
01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:41.199
dudes throw and his blood fills the
empty bowl. And Claire tells Sadistan and

828
01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:46.159
Monte that Wilhelm told her the remaining
ruins and about her plan to finish the

829
01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:49.880
spell and bring Wilhelm back to life. So as part of her plan,

830
01:05:50.360 --> 01:05:56.039
she has events corps there. How
does she get it, I don't know,

831
01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:01.760
but very disturbing, and she wants
the stand to conjure Abel so that

832
01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:08.079
they can recite the spell. And
while this is happening, Bonce gets I

833
01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:14.159
don't know what the word is,
like transported or something to another realm astro.

834
01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:15.800
I think it was astro projecting.
I don't know, maybe, yeah,

835
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:18.360
I think that that would I feel
like that same thing like that.

836
01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:21.239
That's the closest I got to it
because I was like, I think so.

837
01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:29.320
So she meets Wilhelm wherever he can
be fully in the farm or whatever,

838
01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:32.760
yeah, but in this other realm
or something something, and he tries

839
01:06:32.840 --> 01:06:36.840
to convince her to join him first
by appealing to her financial need. He's

840
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:42.039
like, I can give you whatever
you want, and then she doesn't really

841
01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:45.119
care. So then he's like,
oh, I can get Thesetan to love

842
01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:51.000
you, and then he promises power. Moncee feigns interest, and so she

843
01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:57.559
says the magic words, I'll follow
you into the night, and Moncet comes

844
01:06:57.639 --> 01:07:00.840
back to reality or whatever. She
asked these dand to summon Avil and ask

845
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:06.039
for his help to stop Wilhelm.
Wilhelm Distan summons Avil, Claire starts playing

846
01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:11.039
the old film and then the cult
members recite the words from the film.

847
01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:15.519
So then Mons starts drawing the runes, but then she draws a different room

848
01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:19.719
as a destruction and a fire breaks
out. Claire is pissed. She sets

849
01:07:19.719 --> 01:07:24.760
her evil magic dogs on Monte,
and Monte she's finding back with magic.

850
01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:27.159
Yeah, isn't this word, Claire? It's like, oh, you think

851
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:30.079
your little new learned magic is gonna
get me. I'm better, blah blah

852
01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:34.000
blah you thought, bitch, you
thought. Yeah. While Monte is fighting,

853
01:07:34.519 --> 01:07:39.519
she feels a hand choke her,
like closing around her neck, and

854
01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:44.239
this is will Home, of course. So Tristan tries to finish the runs

855
01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:47.480
with Avan's help, but he's confused
when he draws all the runs and the

856
01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:50.159
film ends, but Wilhelm's still there, so he's like, what the fuck.

857
01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:56.239
Avel tells Tristan that he needs to
draw his rune and Tristan's like,

858
01:07:56.280 --> 01:08:00.400
what the fuck do you mean?
And Monan draw there ruins like their runs,

859
01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:03.920
so this means the made up written
language they had when they were kids.

860
01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:06.920
So he needs to like personalize the
ritual, you know, make it

861
01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:12.480
him his own, but he's so
soupid he doesn't get it. Yeah,

862
01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:17.800
yeah, Son is confused, He's
like, what the fuck do I do?

863
01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:23.319
Meanwhile, Monta is being choked out
by Wilhelm until he finally lets her

864
01:08:23.399 --> 01:08:26.840
go, and then he tries to
convince Monte to will him to live,

865
01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:32.439
but instead she wills him to cease
to exist, and then the whole place

866
01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:38.920
is set a blaze once they get
separated while they're escaping and he has to

867
01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:45.479
fight the urg to leave without once
and once she thinks Tristan has already left

868
01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:49.399
her behind, but then he finds
her. She knows him. He's rise

869
01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:55.359
to see him. He came back
from me, really, and they both

870
01:08:55.479 --> 01:09:00.800
escape. So then the film the
book Wilhelm's Belongings. They're all burned in

871
01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:04.359
the fire. Tristan and Monte go
check on Jose, and back at home,

872
01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:09.479
Monse burned everything, all the picture
she had of Wilhelm, and Jose

873
01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:14.039
tells them that it's the even though
you know everything's over, this is the

874
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:16.359
longest night of the year, so
they better get to bed early because it's

875
01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:19.079
a dangerous night. And like,
what the fuck I thought we were done?

876
01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:26.920
Yeah, way, yeah, And
then Jose explains that magic attracts the

877
01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:30.279
attention of monsters, ghosts, and
the Evil Eye, so they don't want

878
01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:33.720
to be out at night. Yeah, which they find out that other shit

879
01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:39.079
is out there besides just other magicians. Yeah, that's a great way.

880
01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:46.680
It was just not having a good
time, oh man. Monce Anistan settle

881
01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:51.439
back into Monster's apartment. The days
pass and Todistan keeps making excuses as to

882
01:09:51.479 --> 01:09:58.159
why he needs to keep staying that
monsters, so monce sarcastically invites him.

883
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:00.640
She's like, not serious, she's
been sarcastic. And she's like, why

884
01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:02.119
don't you just stay here forever?
And he's like yeah, and she's like,

885
01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:05.920
no, man, I was staying
around. Wait wait wait wait no,

886
01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:12.600
but yeah no. So Monster is
like, we're too old to be

887
01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:15.840
playing house. But he keeps pushing, and then he confesses his love to

888
01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:19.399
her in the most way. And
I wrote that, but I remember what

889
01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:23.800
he said, so, and I
don't have my kiddles actually die. I

890
01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:27.600
forgot too. Yeah, he confesses
his love to her and wants it.

891
01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:30.560
She's receptive. So they go on
to live happy, calm and magic ruin

892
01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:42.399
free lives with monsters now haunting them. True. Should we get into thoughts?

893
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:45.199
Well, I do have the questions. Oh, I forgot about the

894
01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:50.640
questions. I pewed them up just
I don't even have the questions neither.

895
01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:55.399
Well I have them, Okay,
Okay, I do have a few notes,

896
01:10:55.479 --> 01:10:59.520
so to go over. Okay,
what if your notes are part of

897
01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:02.760
the question. Okay, let's read
the question and then if they're not,

898
01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:05.720
then we'll go on with your notes. Yeah, okay, So the first

899
01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:11.079
question, what did you enjoy most
about silver nitrate. What did you struggle

900
01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:15.399
with? Uh? I liked the
what what we went over in the beginning

901
01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:21.920
that uh, Sylvia always gets inspiration
from real shit that happened and real people

902
01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:31.039
and makes this like complex world.
What I struggled with was in the beginning

903
01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:35.079
it was a little bit slow for
me, and then Monset at first was

904
01:11:35.159 --> 01:11:42.039
like obsessed with yours and then she
comes a point in time where she then

905
01:11:42.640 --> 01:11:45.279
gets all the information and she's mad. I was like, girl, this

906
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:48.399
is what you wanted. Why are
you kissed? Yeah? Why are you

907
01:11:48.520 --> 01:11:51.399
mad? But that was it.
That was like the only the only,

908
01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:54.479
the only thing that irritated me.
I was like, you just you were

909
01:11:54.520 --> 01:11:58.159
asking for all this information two pages
ago. Isn't this what you wanted?

910
01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:04.800
Yeah? I felt the same.
I always like how she weaves in history

911
01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:09.760
into the books and like, you
know, themes of like eugenics and things

912
01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:12.439
like that. But yeah, I
did feel a little slow, like to

913
01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:15.399
for things to start happening. And
Monte was hell annoying honestly, but I

914
01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:18.439
feel look too sexist because I thought
she was more annoying than Restan, So

915
01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:24.199
then I felt bad. Yeah,
I thought again, I love the world

916
01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:27.800
building, the story behind everything,
the history. I did think it took

917
01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:30.279
a little long to get to all
the things that happened, but then when

918
01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:33.399
it got there, it got there, it was like damn, like I

919
01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:36.920
couldn't stop reading it afterwards. Same
same, So it took a little bit

920
01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:42.760
to get there. I did find
Monte she is not a likable character,

921
01:12:42.840 --> 01:12:45.439
but I think she's supposed to be
not that. Like, yeah, because

922
01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:50.439
but I also found Ristan like the
worst. They're both insufferable, right like

923
01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:53.840
kind of like they're made for each
just like you got, Yeah, they

924
01:12:53.880 --> 01:13:03.159
really are made for there's a reason
why. Yeah, yeah, accurate,

925
01:13:03.279 --> 01:13:08.920
accurate? Okay. Was there a
character that you wish had a bigger role

926
01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:13.439
or when you wish you could know
more about? Said? Maybe that's what

927
01:13:13.560 --> 01:13:15.439
I was gonna say. It was
really interesting because I was like, how'd

928
01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:18.920
you find out that there's other ship
out there? How come nobody else is

929
01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:23.079
talking about this ship? What is
this? I need like a second book?

930
01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:25.800
I know she rarely like I don't
think she actually does sequels, but

931
01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:29.680
she needs to for this one.
I would like who said I would like

932
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:34.279
to know how he found out how
horrible Wilhelm is, how he why he

933
01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:38.560
has all those wounds all over him. Yeah, how do you get this

934
01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:43.000
story? Yeah? Yeah, Like
does he hunt like the ghosts and the

935
01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:46.800
you know, like vampires. Yeah, like is he about that life?

936
01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:53.560
The hunter life like the Winchessers.
Actually that brings that brings a question that

937
01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:58.239
she does have a vampire book.
I wonder if it's kind of like related.

938
01:13:58.479 --> 01:14:00.000
You haven't read, Like maybe it's
like I don't know if it takes

939
01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:02.479
in the future or in a different
world. But I'm like, what if

940
01:14:02.479 --> 01:14:05.079
it's a different world. I think, what if it's like connected, like

941
01:14:05.159 --> 01:14:08.680
one of them is in the past
and one of them's not. I don't

942
01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:13.479
know. Okay, Yeah, it's
like a completely different setting. It was

943
01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:16.399
good. I liked it. Okay. So, despite or perhaps because of

944
01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:21.399
their longtime friendship, mon Antissan remain
very close, although they can be very

945
01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:25.000
different from each other. Do you
think this can be a good thing?

946
01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:30.840
Are they Are they good friends to
each other? Explain? I think Tristan's

947
01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:34.319
a shitty friend. Yeah, and
I think once that I is enabling his

948
01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:38.600
behavior a little too much and forgives
him too much. And yes, yes,

949
01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:42.880
she's an enabler. Yes, yeah, yeah, they're not good friends

950
01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:45.399
to each other, they're yeah,
but at the same time, they deserve

951
01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:48.760
each other. But like that friend, you can't give up, you know,

952
01:14:49.079 --> 01:14:54.399
like after you've been friends with someone
so long sometimes you know, even

953
01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:58.039
if it's not the healthiest, you
just stick it out. Man. So

954
01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:00.239
it's very real in that sense.
Yeah. Yeah, So I wouldn't say

955
01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:04.399
it's good, but I wouldn't say
they deserve each other. Yes, I

956
01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:09.960
would say being different from your friend
or your partner can be a good thing.

957
01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:13.920
Yeah. Yeah, that's true,
as long as you respect each other.

958
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:17.159
But Tristan did not respect her very
much. Yeah. No, and

959
01:15:17.239 --> 01:15:23.239
then she thought he was like I
don't know, I don't know she was

960
01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:26.800
enabling him, but I also felt
like she was frustrated and thought like he

961
01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:31.399
was making stupid decisions. So maybe
she like was condescending. Yeah yeah,

962
01:15:32.039 --> 01:15:35.079
now you're right. Yeah, Okay, let's see. The magic systems in

963
01:15:35.159 --> 01:15:41.600
this book are invented by the mysterious
Wilhelm You Worse Yours, You Worse Yours,

964
01:15:41.960 --> 01:15:45.239
while his version is based on pseudoscience
and mix of cultural practices. How

965
01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:47.560
do you feel about Mosdat's approach to
magic? Do you think magic can be

966
01:15:47.600 --> 01:15:51.199
practiced by anyone? I thought it
was cool that you can like make it

967
01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:58.520
your own and it's very personal and
that's usually how it is in my knowledge

968
01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:00.479
of people who practice it, And
yeah, I think it could be practiced

969
01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:03.520
by anybody. Yeah, I think
that you have to have some sort of

970
01:16:03.680 --> 01:16:09.079
like willingness, openness, and ability, because I don't think I could pick

971
01:16:09.159 --> 01:16:14.479
up No, yeah, not I
think anyone but me and then Christina also

972
01:16:15.239 --> 01:16:17.960
can do it. But yeah,
I just like Jistan, like he just

973
01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:23.800
can't really be open about it.
He's very close off to it, and

974
01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:29.800
he does want he doesn't want anything
to do with his gift, although if

975
01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:31.680
I was him, yeah, I
wouldn't want that gift either. No,

976
01:16:31.840 --> 01:16:34.279
he has the worst gift, yeah, of all of them. Yeah,

977
01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:38.319
I thought it was cool how Monce
it makes it her own and so it

978
01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:42.439
does hold sense. Yeah, yes, yes, yeah, but you know

979
01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:46.479
what I wish the magic would have
been because I to me, if you're

980
01:16:46.520 --> 01:16:49.359
fighting with magic, like I guess
I'm thinking of it because you know,

981
01:16:49.399 --> 01:16:54.119
I like to picture it as I'm
reading, and it just doesn't come off

982
01:16:54.199 --> 01:16:57.880
as cool to be writing shit down
and fighting like that. I didn't like

983
01:16:57.960 --> 01:17:00.159
that. I wish that. Yeah, it kind of just a little bit

984
01:17:00.399 --> 01:17:04.159
use their hands or you know,
but the fact that they have to write

985
01:17:04.199 --> 01:17:06.680
things down yeah, like a wand
like your finger, Like I don't know

986
01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:11.279
anything but that. So I didn't
really like that, like how the magic

987
01:17:11.359 --> 01:17:13.600
was done, Like I wish it
would have been cooler, like maybe that's

988
01:17:13.640 --> 01:17:16.359
why like Kose has it on his
skin so he's like a yeah ahead like

989
01:17:16.439 --> 01:17:19.479
that I could get made down with
that, Like I like that. I

990
01:17:19.560 --> 01:17:24.399
feel like that made it more real
to me that it was this inconvenient thing

991
01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:28.079
you had to like suddenly stop and
like have a notepad, old, let

992
01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:30.359
me write this down. Yeah,
have a little notepad on you the entire

993
01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:35.560
time. Yeah, And then I
was like, okay, but symbolic,

994
01:17:35.680 --> 01:17:39.960
why can't you just write air write
it? True? Though, but then

995
01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:42.880
that would feel like all of it
was silly to me, Like take this

996
01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:45.840
bitch, like I'm gonna writing emotion. Yeah, yeah, you're fake writing.

997
01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:49.079
Yeah you know you do it like
oh now you're on fire. So

998
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:55.079
but you know what, when I
have dreams like about stuff, sometimes it's

999
01:17:55.199 --> 01:18:00.520
like that it's so silly, like
it's a very snisient face. So it

1000
01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:03.159
was like being a bystay or just
watching this ship happen and you're like,

1001
01:18:03.319 --> 01:18:06.399
the fuck is going on? Yeah? No, Like, okay, one

1002
01:18:06.439 --> 01:18:09.840
time I had dreamed that. I
think it's me and Christina. We were

1003
01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:13.840
like superheroes or something when we were
actually we didn't have any powers. I

1004
01:18:14.079 --> 01:18:17.840
was just saying like, okay,
now I'm gonna fly. And that's how

1005
01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:31.000
this magic felt to me. Oh
my god. Sorry, Yeah, someone

1006
01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:36.319
should shut me up. Party,
you know, I have Mike stop.

1007
01:18:36.479 --> 01:18:42.079
Okay, So how do you feel
about the ending? What do you think

1008
01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:45.880
happens next with Monterra and Tristan?
Oh? So did you like them ending

1009
01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:51.359
up together? I feel like they're
together just to be together because they like,

1010
01:18:53.479 --> 01:18:56.920
yeah, they're settling for each other. No one else wants us.

1011
01:18:59.520 --> 01:19:00.960
Yeah, I mean, and they
just deserve each other. So like,

1012
01:19:01.239 --> 01:19:05.560
I guess good for them, but
like they're gonna define in together. It's

1013
01:19:05.640 --> 01:19:09.960
like they were together this whole time
anyway. So yeah, I think they're

1014
01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:15.000
gonna have a happy life together with
a petty argument with here and there.

1015
01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:18.399
Yeah, they are very codependent,
but you know, I love I love

1016
01:19:18.439 --> 01:19:21.399
when people end up together in books. So I was here for it,

1017
01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:27.560
and sometimes she doesn't do it in
her books, like like all of them,

1018
01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:34.000
oh man, Yeah, wait,
have we talked about Mexican Gothic?

1019
01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:38.720
No? No, no, okay, no, no we haven't. I

1020
01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:42.960
don't like who she ends up with. Actually didn't like that either. I'm

1021
01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:45.000
like, this peal boy, he
should die because I pictured that he was

1022
01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:48.159
ugly and I pictured that she was
beautiful, and I was like, I

1023
01:19:48.199 --> 01:19:51.840
don't like it. I'm sorry,
I can't remember I pictured somebody for that

1024
01:19:51.960 --> 01:19:56.840
and I can't remember. You picture
somebody? Yeah, and I can't remember.

1025
01:19:57.000 --> 01:19:59.720
Oh, I pictured what's his name? Like? What is it the

1026
01:19:59.800 --> 01:20:03.319
guy who plays Loki? Oh,
he has to be younger, like a

1027
01:20:03.399 --> 01:20:05.880
younger version of him. Then yeah, okay, yeah that's why I picture

1028
01:20:05.920 --> 01:20:09.279
because they is like, yeah,
that's why I pictured. So I was

1029
01:20:09.319 --> 01:20:12.199
like, I was fine, his
hands look up, it's I don't even

1030
01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:14.960
know. Okay, if you're a
picture in that, then that's Tom I

1031
01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:17.680
think, yeah, yeah, are
you looking someone else up, Carmen.

1032
01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:25.239
I'm never gonna find it. Yeah, I'm trying to find who I pictured.

1033
01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:30.279
What is he from? Okay?
So In and Freddy versus Jason,

1034
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:35.079
there's a there's a one of the
guys. Okay, where is this guy

1035
01:20:35.239 --> 01:20:42.439
who is like a nerd? And
that's why I pictured as that the guy

1036
01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:45.279
she ends up with. Wait,
okay, who from Freddy versus Jason.

1037
01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:47.119
I don't know. I don't know
his name. I had to see a

1038
01:20:47.159 --> 01:20:50.159
picture, but I don't know his
name, so I can't find a picture

1039
01:20:50.159 --> 01:20:54.520
and never remember the name of the
character. He's just like an annoying guy

1040
01:20:55.119 --> 01:20:59.600
Linderman, but he's not the stoner. I was gonna say it was Charlie

1041
01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:04.279
Linderman in Chris Mark. No,
I don't think so. Really, I

1042
01:21:04.279 --> 01:21:08.760
don't think he's the only annoying.
He was like the annoying nerd. I

1043
01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:11.920
thought he had glasses. Maybe it
was the bike. I don't know,

1044
01:21:12.479 --> 01:21:15.319
he thought like a bike helmet or
more cycle helmet. I'm not gonna find

1045
01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:18.000
it. Maybe it is that guy, but I pictures him more pale and

1046
01:21:18.199 --> 01:21:23.600
like, oh he's already pretty pale, I like uglier. Oh wait it

1047
01:21:23.680 --> 01:21:27.439
is him. I mean I thought
he wore glasses. No, yeah,

1048
01:21:27.479 --> 01:21:30.279
it's him, but with glasses.
It's how I pictured. But here the

1049
01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:34.239
glasses in the book. So yeah, that's why I pictured Okay, just

1050
01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:38.199
like a plain white guy. Yeah, but like a nerdy, plain white

1051
01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:41.560
guy. Yes, well you added
the glasses so yeah, right, I

1052
01:21:41.800 --> 01:21:45.399
made that up. Yeah, I
could see that. Yeah anyway, sorry,

1053
01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:46.800
and then okay, last question,
how did we get here? I

1054
01:21:47.079 --> 01:21:51.520
don't remember. What medium do you
think would be the easiest to curse today?

1055
01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:55.399
A movie, TV show, podcast, social media, something else?

1056
01:21:55.880 --> 01:21:59.600
What would your motives be? A
TikTok? I think so. I think

1057
01:21:59.680 --> 01:22:03.600
every one's like, you know,
into TikTok, and those videos make their

1058
01:22:03.640 --> 01:22:09.800
way to Instagram, so it would
still be through and then later on into

1059
01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:15.520
Facebook. It's like the modern day
ring Never I know the pages. I

1060
01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:19.640
was gonna say, yeah, no, I agree, that's what I was

1061
01:22:19.680 --> 01:22:21.960
gonna say too. I was like
a podcast would be hard because like some

1062
01:22:23.039 --> 01:22:26.000
people, some people don't listen to
podcast I guess like twenty percent of people

1063
01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:29.600
don't even know what podcasts are.
Really, Wow, you're missing out a

1064
01:22:29.680 --> 01:22:32.079
survey that I listened to, Yeah, they are missing out. So yeah,

1065
01:22:32.119 --> 01:22:36.479
I would say TikTok because then it
would make itself into or it would

1066
01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:41.800
make its way into other platforms,
like all the vertical platforms. So yeah,

1067
01:22:42.079 --> 01:22:44.840
that's what I would curse if I
had to, though I don't have

1068
01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:46.680
a motive. Yeah, I don't
have a motivator. Oh a motive.

1069
01:22:47.199 --> 01:22:50.279
I was gonna say that right now, so then then I wouldn't have to

1070
01:22:50.319 --> 01:22:56.359
work. Mm hmmm, yeah,
that would be it. Yeah, is

1071
01:22:56.399 --> 01:22:59.119
that all the questions? Yes,
Okay, So I just want to talk

1072
01:22:59.119 --> 01:23:03.359
a little bit because I I saw
I looked at the ratings on good Reads,

1073
01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:08.840
so it had three point sixty four
out of five stars, and some

1074
01:23:09.039 --> 01:23:13.399
people, the ones that had bad
reviews, most of them said that there

1075
01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:18.520
wasn't enough horror, that the romance
sucked, and that Monsign Tristan were overdeveloped

1076
01:23:18.680 --> 01:23:23.880
characters, and that they had like
negative chemistry, treated each other terribly and

1077
01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:26.199
had no development. So it's like, what do you think about that?

1078
01:23:26.439 --> 01:23:30.800
But I think it's stupid to want
everything peachy and sunflowers and roses. If

1079
01:23:30.840 --> 01:23:34.239
you didn't get it, just say
that. I can't stand when people are

1080
01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:38.960
like, I have to have everything
so happy ending I'm like, no,

1081
01:23:39.640 --> 01:23:42.399
I mean that's great, but I
also if like some shit goes down,

1082
01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:45.479
it's horrible. I'm down for that
too. It doesn't need to be peachy.

1083
01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:48.199
And I mean, ultimately, they
were there for each other when they

1084
01:23:48.279 --> 01:23:51.720
needed it, so I think that's
what matters. Yeah, and at the

1085
01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:56.399
end, they were literally meant for
each other because they're both terrible. Yeah,

1086
01:23:56.520 --> 01:23:58.359
yes, yes, And I also
like, like a lot of people,

1087
01:23:58.479 --> 01:24:00.159
like, don't get me wrong,
I love when there's a good character

1088
01:24:00.319 --> 01:24:04.319
that's written good and you cheer for
them on. But I also like people

1089
01:24:04.439 --> 01:24:09.359
who are like like Tristan, where
it's like he's clearly a piece of shit

1090
01:24:09.479 --> 01:24:13.399
sometimes, but then you also cheer
for him and he pisses you off.

1091
01:24:13.479 --> 01:24:15.439
But you also don't want ship to
happen like that too. Yeah, and

1092
01:24:15.640 --> 01:24:18.640
yet because I don't, I don't
always like like, oh there's like another

1093
01:24:18.680 --> 01:24:23.680
good guy and he's written or she's
written per perfect. I hate that ship.

1094
01:24:23.960 --> 01:24:26.640
I hate like once in while it's
fine, but all the time people,

1095
01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:32.680
yeah that's more realistic. Yeah.
And the horror was error, what

1096
01:24:32.720 --> 01:24:38.920
are you talking about? It was
the first sees the excess ghost that was

1097
01:24:39.079 --> 01:24:42.520
that was good. Yeah. The
one that freaked me out the most was

1098
01:24:42.920 --> 01:24:49.159
the the spooning part. I was
like, oh that's so yeah, yeah,

1099
01:24:49.239 --> 01:24:51.560
so it was there, Like to
that, I would say, just

1100
01:24:51.600 --> 01:24:56.079
say you didn't get it and that's
it, and then you can't be mad

1101
01:24:56.119 --> 01:25:00.720
because you didn't understand it, Like
yeah, that's on you, and like,

1102
01:25:01.079 --> 01:25:03.960
yeah, not everything has to be
just horrible horror horror after horror,

1103
01:25:04.079 --> 01:25:09.319
Like I mean I had like good
pacing and good like sort of jump scary

1104
01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:12.600
moments. Yeah. I mean I
would say it took a little too long

1105
01:25:12.680 --> 01:25:14.800
to get there, but then it
got there and it was all good.

1106
01:25:15.119 --> 01:25:19.600
Yeah you needed you needed all that
background and for the every it informed like

1107
01:25:19.680 --> 01:25:24.840
the whole thing later. So yeah, so yeah, like and again I

1108
01:25:24.920 --> 01:25:28.920
think because I rate everything that I
like so highly, I would give it

1109
01:25:29.079 --> 01:25:39.199
like five ghosts out of five ghosts
rooms out of rooms. Yeah. I

1110
01:25:39.319 --> 01:25:43.119
do have a few notes or thoughts
I should say. Uh, I think

1111
01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:49.880
Tristan was the necromancer because he already
had a death on him technically, and

1112
01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:53.720
I thought that's why he had to
become the necromancer. And I don't know

1113
01:25:53.760 --> 01:25:57.439
if it works, like because he
was the reason. I guess she was

1114
01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:01.199
because he was the motivation behind it. But I also it could also be

1115
01:26:01.319 --> 01:26:04.800
that he witnessed the death in front
of him. I think, so that

1116
01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:09.239
makes sense. I don't know if
it's one or the other. And then

1117
01:26:09.680 --> 01:26:13.800
what I one part I didn't like
about Tristan is that he's talking about he

1118
01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:21.920
likes aphrodite women, but then he
describes Monte as a plat wheatly type beautiful.

1119
01:26:23.359 --> 01:26:26.319
Yeah, but I do remember this
at all? Is that the end

1120
01:26:26.479 --> 01:26:29.399
right, or like closer to the
end when he's like admiring her beauty and

1121
01:26:29.439 --> 01:26:32.359
he'll say it's one it's on page. Yeah, that she's not like a

1122
01:26:32.479 --> 01:26:36.680
traditionally beautiful woman. She's like a
beautiful in a monster sort of way.

1123
01:26:38.279 --> 01:26:43.000
Yeah, I wouldn't say that because
the goddess he mentions is like wheatly,

1124
01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:49.119
and this goddess god has a mask
and fe features. So to me,

1125
01:26:50.119 --> 01:26:56.720
he's describing Momo as a tomboy or
androgynas like still pretty in its own.

1126
01:26:57.000 --> 01:27:01.199
Also, I couldn't send her nickname
Momo. It's a nickname people have.

1127
01:27:01.600 --> 01:27:06.319
I didn't like. I say me
too, I mean it's fully there,

1128
01:27:06.520 --> 01:27:12.600
like and you're gonna use momo.
Yeah, but I didn't like that he

1129
01:27:12.760 --> 01:27:15.359
was like telling her like that's a
bad thing. I'm like, it's her

1130
01:27:15.479 --> 01:27:18.359
thing, doesn't make her any less
beautiful, like, and to me it

1131
01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:25.760
comes off as like the Afro deity
and the like Whitney comparison. More was

1132
01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:30.840
more like European versus indigenous to me. Too interesting. I hadn't thought of

1133
01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:34.000
that, Yeah, but yeah,
it couldn't be either because I didn't remember

1134
01:27:34.079 --> 01:27:39.079
it. But yeah, but that's
it. But also, who does that,

1135
01:27:39.279 --> 01:27:42.960
like you're not as hot as the
other like women that I've been into,

1136
01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:45.640
but you're all right the inner thought
he's having, he doesn't tell her,

1137
01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:48.560
Oh that's good at least. God, I thought he told her that.

1138
01:27:50.039 --> 01:27:51.960
I imagine. Yeah, but I
was like, oh my god,

1139
01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:55.720
I wanted to slap him, like
I wanted to like reach into the book

1140
01:27:55.760 --> 01:28:00.960
and just go smack. Yeah,
yeah, mm hmm. Okay, is

1141
01:28:01.039 --> 01:28:03.920
that everything that is done? The
book? Wait? I want to say

1142
01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:08.800
my reading Oh oh yeah, you
haven't said it. Okay, don't come

1143
01:28:08.880 --> 01:28:13.079
for me, Christina. It was
not five out of five for me,

1144
01:28:14.239 --> 01:28:18.119
I think because of how solow it
was and that I wish the magic was

1145
01:28:18.199 --> 01:28:23.600
cooler, which is not no fault, I think because it was based on

1146
01:28:23.720 --> 01:28:28.000
actual So I guess I can't really
take that into account, but I want

1147
01:28:28.039 --> 01:28:32.199
to and I will. So I
would say, like I liked it,

1148
01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:36.960
I would read it again, but
it wasn't full like five. I would

1149
01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:44.239
say like maybe like three point nine
out of five. It was a random

1150
01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:47.279
ass placed that ended out like three
point nine. No, I can see

1151
01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:49.880
that. Yeah, I didn't see
that, like like if I if you

1152
01:28:49.960 --> 01:28:54.760
had to twist my arm. Okay, fine, four. I was gonna

1153
01:28:54.760 --> 01:28:58.279
say. They put eight and I
don't know which one was weirder. Point

1154
01:28:58.359 --> 01:29:05.880
nine. Did you give it a
media m D. Yeah, I gave

1155
01:29:05.920 --> 01:29:10.680
it five out of five. I
really like the it's solely for the the

1156
01:29:11.520 --> 01:29:14.399
historical ship that she moves in,
but that made it cool. Yeah,

1157
01:29:14.439 --> 01:29:16.520
once you told me about that.
Also, I was like, Okay,

1158
01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:19.279
I think if I knew that beforehand
and then I read it, then it

1159
01:29:19.319 --> 01:29:23.079
would I would have probably liked it
a little bit more. Yeah, so

1160
01:29:23.159 --> 01:29:25.399
that's why it's like cooler. Maybe
that's why I give it like five out

1161
01:29:25.439 --> 01:29:28.720
of five because I already knew.
Yeah, that makes sense, that makes

1162
01:29:28.760 --> 01:29:34.279
sense. Okay, Wow, well
we survived. We finally recorded this and

1163
01:29:34.439 --> 01:29:39.039
I already finished the next one.
I have not even started. I guess

1164
01:29:39.039 --> 01:29:45.439
i'll do the notes to them.
The next book is Vampires by Isabel.

1165
01:29:46.039 --> 01:29:50.479
We are very excited because we love
Isabel. Yes, yes, so yeah,

1166
01:29:50.720 --> 01:29:54.680
that is the next book. Hopefully
it doesn't take us as long as

1167
01:29:54.760 --> 01:29:59.279
this one. Well you've already done
so years later, yeah, one year

1168
01:29:59.439 --> 01:30:03.680
later? Yeah, okay, yeah, and everyone else. Thanks for listening.

1169
01:30:04.199 --> 01:30:06.800
If you want to join the book
club, there's a link in the

1170
01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:12.079
show notes. You can also join
Patreon like a free member, because I'll

1171
01:30:12.119 --> 01:30:15.600
post the discussions on Patreon for everyone
to see, not just paid members.

1172
01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:19.640
So yeah, I guess that's everything, Say Swookie. We'll catch everyone next

1173
01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:23.439
time. Bye bye bye, bam
hitting