Legends From Puerto Rico and the Case of Luis Angel Diaz Castro

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but it is worth it. It
is a wild story, all right.

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Onto the episode. Thank you,
Hi everyone. This is Christina and this

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is MJN and this is another episode
of Spooky Tell. It's a podcast for

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all things as spooky and sometimes to
crime, sometimes both. On today's episode

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we are talking about Puerto Rico.
We have some legends from Puerto Rico on

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hundred Places. I have a short
true crime case in Porto Rico, and

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we also have a long listener story
that's not Portorico related. It's I think

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for Mexico. I can't remember either
way. That's what's happening today. And

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yes, before we get into the
listener story, if you have any stories

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that you want to send in for
us to read or listen to, you

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can email at spooky dosagmail dot com. You can submit it on Discord.

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There's a couple already there and that's
very exciting. What else You can DM

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it on Instagram. That's what this
listener did. Okay, So listener story

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time. Okay, Oh, the
first part is going to be you reading

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it. Yes, okay, so
part one. This is such a long

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story. But to start with,
I went with a friend to nearby White

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Sands missile Base about a year or
so before this happened to do the but

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ton Is that how you pronounced that? Maybe button Memorial Death March that's a

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whole other story, but part of
it is that my friend and I had

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made it to the backside of the
mountain. We were pretty far behind everyone

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else. Parentheses I'm slow emoji shrug
shrug emoji. I mean anyway, one

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thing, one thing that should be
noted is that I've always been sensitive to

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things, energies and such. So
we get to this point on the back

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of the mountain and I felt something
away in the distance, yet connected somehow

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right there, like someone wants me
to know something. I'm looking off into

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the desert, and these sensations were
mixed. It was like an intriguing energy

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but then almost ominous, like there
is good out there, but something is

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happening out there that shouldn't be happening. I know where it's happens out at

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White Sands. Where's White Sands?
You know, maxic I think it was

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Texas. I thought White Sands.
Was it Texas or no? Max,

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go, oh maybe it is New
Mexico. White Oh, New Mexico.

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Oh okay, so weird things happened
there in White Sands? Where was I?

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I just felt like a longing to
connect and something wanted me to know

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what was going on. So my
friend who was a solid atheist and says

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I'm woo woo as if I'm okay, And right at that time, three

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men on horseback show up. I'm
sure they came from around the band behind

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us, but I didn't see that. It's like they just sort of appeared.

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It was an MP, a border
patrol agent, military police for people

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who are fortunate enough to not know, I'm kidding, it was a military

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police, a border patrol agent,
and someone else whose uniform I didn't recognize.

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It was weird to me because during
the event they had medics on four

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wheelers, but I had not seen
anyone on horseback. It's also weird because

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they showed up right as I was
getting that sensation and staring out in the

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desert to where it was coming from. They just asked, you, ladies,

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all right? Need help? We
told them no, we're just slow,

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and they said we needed to try
to get going. Then then they

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left, but they didn't ride off
on the trail in front or behind us,

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but up the mountain into the brush. Anyway, since that experience,

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i'd felt called to that area like
I was still supposed to know something,

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or maybe it was a warning that
I wasn't supposed to know something. Oh,

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I really don't know, because I've
often just tried to shut out the

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ability I seem to have. So
I just have a vague understanding of the

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things that happened. So fast forward
to October twenty eighteen, and I decided

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I wanted to go back out to
that area, not on base, just

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to the area that was calling to
me, so I booked an airbnb.

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I wanted a sort of remote place
because I like nature, and I wanted

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to place the fence and a doggy
door so if I went on a harder

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day hike, Diesel, my pup
could stay home and be safe and comfortable

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and have access to go outside.
What a cute name, Diesel. I

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rented a farms day. It seemed
to just show up in perfect timing because

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I was about to give up ongoing
since finding the place with those specifications would

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be hard. I kept seeing this
property show up, but the pictures made

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it look sort of run down,
so I kept passing it by. I

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finally looked at it, thinking what
the hell, and it had what I

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was looking for is and it was
super cheap, like sixty eight a night

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for the small farmhouse. And the
whole farm to ourselves. That's an insane

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price. Maybe it was that cheap
for a reason, which maybe we'll find

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out. This is a listener story, after all. It was south of

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Las Cruces in Messilla Valley, right
on the Rio Grande. There was just

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a levee separating their property from the
river, and it was beautiful. The

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owners said their grandmother used to live
in the home. Anyway, Oh gee,

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this is so long and details matter. I wish they had a voice

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message option because I'm basically just getting
to the real story. Okay, Well

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she did find the voice option,
and now we're gonna hear her story.

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So the house is beautiful and it's
a small, like Adobe style house.

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But when you first come in the
back door like where there's like a mudroom,

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and so me and Diesel walk in
the house for the first time.

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When we get there, right when
you pass through the entryway, there's like

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a I don't know, there's like
just a separate, tiny little room where

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the door is, and then you
go into the mudroom. And to the

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left when you walk through that little
doorway, there was a life size statue,

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like a old wooden statue. Was
really pretty, but it scared the

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shit out of us. And I
can't ever remember the name of the saint,

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but it's what the saint that protects
the animals. Before I go to

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the next part, does anyone know
what saint that is? Let me see,

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I've heard of him, but I
don't know the name. Saint Francis

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of a sci Oh, and also
how cool, like the saint that protects

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animals and she has her little dog, right, yeah, okay, let

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me play the next message. So
that statue is there to the left,

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and it's as we walk in,
my dog freaks out. And he was

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a little dog, a little Boston
Terrier, So he like jumps back,

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scooches back, like crouches down,
and starts growling and barking at it like

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I've never heard him do before.
He's terrified of it, and like the

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hair is standing up on me as
soon as I see this thing, and

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so I know there's something going on
with it, or something maybe inhabiting it.

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I don't really know what that was, but the feeling was definite that

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there was something wrong right with that
statue. So because I don't know,

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I'm me and I say things.
I just looked at it and I'm like,

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no, you stay out here,
right, And so there's like French

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doors from that room that go into
the actual home, and the energy shifted

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in the house immediately. It was
like inviting and comforting and loving, and

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it was beautiful and wonderful. But
that room out there where that statue was

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was a whole different story, right, And I also knew that my dog

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was going to have to go through
that room and pass that step to use

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the dog door, which was inside
the door that we used, you know,

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to come inside. So but I
also know I have to leave the

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French doors like cracked to the to
the mudroom so my dog can use the

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doggy door if he needs to.
So I do that, but I'm not

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willing to leave it wide open.
I mean, like I know, if

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I guess if it wanted to come
in there, it could I don't know,

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maybe it couldn't. So I told
it every night, like, you

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stay out here. You are not
allowed in this house like past this door,

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and Diesel remained afraid of it the
whole time, and basically so did

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I. Like, it just was
ominous. It was weird, and so

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anyway, other than that, the
house was beautiful and great and wonderful.

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And the first night was great,
and you know, I woke up ready

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to go on a hike, and
I made breakfast for me and for him

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and coffee, and like, the
homeowners were wonderful. They had left fresh

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apples from the tree, and they
left me like a basket of eggs from

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the chickens, and you know,
coffee and all that stuff because they were

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so remote. So we had a
great morning and made breakfast and all that.

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I was about to take a shower, and again I'm me, so

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I talked to my animals. I
talked to everything. I tell my dog,

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okay, you hang out here like
in the bedroom, and uh,

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I'm gonna take a shower and then
we'll go hike. And when I get

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out, you know, I'm drying
off and I hear my dog whining.

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I go in the bedroom where I'm
assuming he is, and he's not there,

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but I can still hear him.
And so, you know, immediately

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I'm like, well, shit,
maybe he got Maybe he went outside and

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he can't figure out how to get
back in, or maybe he you know,

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opened a door, or I don't
know, he's to try to get

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into stuff. So maybe he got
tried to get into a cabinet to get

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food or whatever. So and I'm
looking for him. I'm opening up every

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door to every room. I'm opening
up closet doors. I literally looked in

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every cabinet, every closet, every
bedroom. I went outside, and I'm

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only hearing him like off and on, but I can't tell where he is,

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and he's just whining. So,
you know, I'm outside and I'm

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looking, and I'm thinking, well, maybe they're there like a cellar,

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or maybe there was a hole or
something that went under the house, and

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maybe he's stuck, you know,
I don't know, so and I'm looking

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and I'm looking, and when i'm
outside looking, I don't hear him anymore.

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But then I hear him once when
I'm like outside where the bedroom window

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is, which is, you know, where I thought he was to begin

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with. But I don't see him, can't tell exactly where it's coming from,

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can't find him. So I'm starting
to low key freak out, thinking,

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you know, like where's he gonna
be. He can't be that far

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And the fence that surrounds the house
itself isn't that big of an area,

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like it's a whole farm but the
fence was just around the house area before

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the rest of the property, right, So I keep looking because you know,

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I mean, surely he has to
be somewhere, but I don't hear

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him anymore. So now I'm thinking, well, hell, maybe got through

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the fence somehow went through the horsepin
and is wandering and he's a little dog,

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and there's coyotes out there. So
I start worrying about that, and

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I start walking the property and I'm
calling out to him. I can't you

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know, I'm freaking out because my
thought is if I lose him out there

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and I can't find him by the
time I'm supposed to leave, you know,

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like I can't just leave. I
can't just leave my dog lost in

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another state. At this point,
I'm crying, and I'm having all these

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terrible thoughts about what could have happened
to him with coyotes or whatever. And

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there's like an orchard next to this
farm, and I'm walking down that side

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road and she's asking me what's wrong, and I'm asking her if she's seen

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a little black and white dog.
She says no, she says to go

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ask the farmer next door. I
actually don't speak Spanish, and most of

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the people there speak Spanish, and
so the guy next door does. And

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I also know, like it's country, right, so you don't go on

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other people's property. Still walking,
and I call my friend Jamiica because I

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just like need comfort, I need
the port, and I'm asking her what

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the hell, and you know,
she just listens to me and asks me

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where I've looked and all that,
and so anyway, hang up with her.

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At the point I'm still wandering around, I decide I'm gonna get in

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the car because if he has gotten
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he could be far at this point. So I get in the car.

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I get up onto the levee so
I can get a good view. There's

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a road on top of the levee
that separates the river from the farms.

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Right. That's when I end up
at the farm next door, and the

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man comes out like what the hell
are you doing here? But he understands

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enough English and I don't speak any
Spanish, which sucks. At that point,

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I wish I had been able to
speak with him better. But he

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was very kind, and I asked
him if he had seen the dog.

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He said no, asked him,
He asked me what he looked like.

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He said, you know, if
I see him, I'll bring him to

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you. Get back in my car
and I'm driving along the levee looking for

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him. At this point, by
the way, it's been like two and

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a half for like three hours,
you know, because I'm just looking everywhere.

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I called the homeowners. She's like, Okay, we're gonna come out

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there and help you look, and
the groundskeeper is going to come out and

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help you look. We'll be there
as soon as we can. It'll be

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like thirty minutes. You know.
They were super nice about it, knowing

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that I was freaking out. So
I turn around and I'm going back to

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the house. I'm driving on top
of the levee and I'm super mad,

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right because in my mind I'm already
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Sorry for my words, but anyway, I was so mad, and

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I'm like yelling out loud in my
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something in it, right, and
you know, around and I'm like,

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don't you fucking take him? Don't
you know you better fucking bring him back.

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I don't know what the hell's wrong
with you. We didn't do anything

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to you. You know, blah
blah blah, we're respecting your property,

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and you know, YadA YadA,
and I'm pissed and I'm yelling at this

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thing. And then it occurs to
me, like all of a sudden,

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there's the shift and energy, like
get quiet. Something's telling me to get

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quiet and calm the hell down.
And I know I sound like a crazy

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person, but I hope y'all,
since you do what you do, understand

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what I'm with, what I'm doing
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and so anyway, I just got
quiet and I calmed down. And then

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I'm crying, and you know,
dogs are my kids. I don't have

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kids, and I just instead of
being angry, I shifted and I was

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like, please bring him back.
I don't know how to do life without

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him. I can't leave here without
him. Please bring him back, Just

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bring him back. About that time, I'm getting closer to the house.

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So the backside of that mud room
where that statue was is all glass and

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it has like a sliding glass door
on the other side of the room,

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you know, andre from where the
doggy door is. Right. So as

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I'm going down the little hill from
the levee to park and try to go

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back to the house and look some
more. There my dog's there. He's

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in the house, and he is
freaking the f out, like he's having

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a panic attack, and he's scratching
on that back door on the on the

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glass side of the door facing where
I am right and I'm pulling up,

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and he's like and whaling and whining
and just flipped out right, and he

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can't seem to figure out how to
get out. He's just like jumping on

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that glass door when the dog door
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I would have expected him to just
run out the doggy door to come meet

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me out at the fence, but
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He was having some kind of panic.

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And at that point I just I
don't know. I knew that I

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don't know where he was. I
don't know where he was, and my

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only thought was like another room,
another I don't know, you know.

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I mean, I guess I do
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I don't want to see it because
I don't really know for sure, and

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also it's scary and strange to say
it, but it's just something that I

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feel like, I know he wasn't
there, but he was around, you

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know what I mean, Like I
couldn't see him until I asked for him

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to be brought back. Right.
So anyway, I go in the house

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and my dog is just like he's
shaken, and he just went like whimpering

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and whining, and I'd take him
into the bedroom and I put him on

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the bed and I lay there and
just like hold on to him. And

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you know, our plan was to
go on a hike that morning, or

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I was gonna go on a hike
by myself, I think, I can't

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remember. No, he was gonna
go with me, I think. But

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I thought, you know, we're
both exhausted and this is strange. And

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I lay down and because that was
so stressful, I guess it was exhausting,

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and we just fell asleep. I
think, yeah, we got to

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get up and go on this hike. Everything's fine. We go out to

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this park up in Las Crusis has
this beautiful mountain. They had had unseasonable,

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unseasoned whatever you call it, heavy
rains that are not normal, sorry,

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and so everything was sort of lush
and green on the mountain, which

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is unusual, and so we go
on a short hike. There's a little

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waterfall area up there, and fortunately
because of the rain, I'm thinking we

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can see it, and we did, and there's like nobody there because it's

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I think it was a week day, I don't remember. But anyway,

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so the whole time we're doing this
little hike, I have him off leash,

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even though you're not supposed to,
and he never goes further than like

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five or ten feet away from me. So we're walking along, but then

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I'm getting this feeling something's watching us. But this time it was more like

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a I got the feeling it was
a mountain lion, you know. We

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got to the waterfall, enjoyed it
for a little bit, calmed down,

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had some water, and then I
don't know, he was anxious, like

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something was close by. And so
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leash for part of that trail back
and then we went back. So we

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were there for a couple of nights, and the next night was fine,

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right, but still that energy in
that mudroom where that thing was was scary,

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and I would tell it, you
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come in this house. And the
other weird thing is I feel like the

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homeowners, maybe their grandmother or maybe
the we're aware of something or energies or

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protections or whatever, because there was
like a bucket of salt that I don't

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know. It just seemed out of
place, right, like they don't have

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a water softener or a pool or
anything like that. And it wasn't like

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table salt. It was just you
know, the big bucket of like rock

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salt. And my immediate thought was
they were using it to protect the property

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at some point, maybe you know, putting it around. I don't know.

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I never asked them about it because
I didn't want to seem too weird.

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But I do think they're the kind
of people that are open to it.

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I just didn't feel comfortable discussing all
the details. However, you know,

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when they asked how the stay was, and so I was telling them

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it was great, but I you
know, I said, I don't know

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if how you guys feel about certain
things or feelings or situations or just people

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being uncomfortable with items. But I
said, you know, that statue you

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have out there is really unnerving.
I just wasn't a fan of that.

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But otherwise, you know, the
house was great, and I was kind

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of trying to make it lighthearted because
I didn't want to get again. Seemed

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too weird to him, and he
actually just kind of paused and he said,

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do you know what, I've never
liked it either. It feels weird

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to me. And then he said, and we've had other guests say that

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they don't like it. Yeah,
there's something about it. People don't like

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it. And he said, my
wife found it out a garage sale,

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and she loves animals and nature,
and so she bought it because she thought

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it would be neat to put out
there at the farm because it's the saint,

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you know, that protects animals,
and so it was weird. It

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was like, you know, her
heart was in the right place, and

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it was exactly it felt like it
was exactly the opposite. And I don't

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know that's I mean, that's the
majority of the story, but there's other

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details, like I have friends in
the military still, well it's my friend's

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husband, and so I told her
I was going out there hiking, you

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know, on this trip, and
she said, my husband's says, if

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you're gonna go anywhere, make sure
that no fewer than three people know where

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you are, have a camera with
you at all times. If you think

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you see or feel something weird but
you don't physically see it, take a

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picture because it might show up on
your camera. And I'm thinking, what

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in the hell are you talking about? And I'm telling her, you know,

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I believe in alien stuff too,
and I know that there's some rumor

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about all of that, especially out
at the White Sands Missile Ground, and

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she just like sends me pictures of
you know, like cartoon alien heads and

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all that, and so I'm thinking, Okay, well, I know what

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you're trying to say. And she
said, seriously, if you're going by

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yourself, be careful and just make
sure people know where you are going and

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when you're expecting to return. And
the only thing I can think about that

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is, you know, what do
they know? Are people disappearing out there?

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And if they are, like,
I don't think it's human disappearances.

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Do you know what I'm saying?
I don't know. I realize it sounds

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weird saying it out loud now,
but it is what it is. I

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still believe that that said she was
inhabited by something or something attached to it,

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and that is most as a story. Okay, we made it.

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We made it. But before I
get your thoughts, guess what she what

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episode she listened to before she was
like, I need to send my story

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in close the one you oh,
is it the one that you guys did

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about some forest? No? Yeah, so do you remember those four kids?

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Yes, lost in the jungle in
the Amazon. And then we had

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also talked about another guy. His
name was Michael Akuna and he got lost

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in the jungle too. Yeah,
that's episode I was thinking, okay,

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yeah, and you know how in
that episode they said that well the kids,

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the grandma of the kids said that
she thought they were in another realm,

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like the one that took them to
another Yeah. And then that guy

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in the Amazon as well, Michael
Wakuna was also believed to have been taken

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by the Duende that you know,
mother Earth like it's her it's her due

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that he took him to another realm
for like disrespecting Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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and so that's what she listened to
when she she was like, I

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need to send my story in because
she was like, what was my dog

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taken to another realm? But like, what do you guys think happened to

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the dog? I have thoughts?
Okay, so going onto the duende.

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Yes, it sounds like fay related, which you know, like when there's

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a type of fay, type of
fairy or whatever. Right, but fairies

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are also connected to UFO activity.
Yeah. And then the thing also like

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she said that maybe this statue,
while it was creepy, it was well

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intended because when she went on the
hike, she felt like it was some

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kind of like wildcat up there.
Maybe it was like trying to protect the

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dog. That's what I also think
because they like and knew and that's why

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it took it. Yeah, because
it knew there was something roaming and it's

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like I'm gonna take you because if
you go out the doggy door, you're

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gonna get eaten. Yeah. Yeah, Like it like it might have been

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like creepy, but it might have
also been well intended, especially if it's

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like fay related, because I feel
like they have a very like this connection

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to nature, and if it was
they related, I don't think it would

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have harmed the dog, but I
don't know. Yeah, but it also

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like with her being like, oh
well, it felt like there was like

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like you know that it was a
mountain lion. I'm like mountain lions if

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if your dog was tiny, would
have like just gobbled up poor thing up.

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And it probably was like, oh, no, there's something outside,

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and and maybe like while she was
showering, the dog might have tried to

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like leave, and this thing was
like protecting it from being eaten and going

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out the dog door. So I
don't know, that is my thought,

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because it's also weird that there was
this. You know, she felt like

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there was like this big cat roaming
and she had a tiny dog. I'm

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like, that's just that's that's,
you know, their snack. So I

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also feel like it was trying to
but it was it could have been like,

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we know, one of those things
where it's like I don't play around.

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I'm a protector, but I don't
play around. It's it's very weird.

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Yeah, yeah, I was like, wow, that's so strange.

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But I kind of agree with your
thoughts as well, like, yeah,

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I don't think this thing was it
was meaning to be malicious in making the

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dog go missing. It could have
been well inten intended, Like it could

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have also been like, hey,
there's something outside, I'm protecting your dog.

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I was about to go outside and
get eaten, but I protect deal.

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I just put them in this place
for now. And those were the

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more of the vibes that that she
was getting, like not scary, but

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like just something present. Yeah,
and like it could have been like like

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I said, like some protector vibes, like yeah, that doesn't mess around,

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like it's not necessarily nice, but
it will protect you and especially your

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pets. And you know, it's
it could be that, it could be

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the I don't know, there's so
many components why. Maybe it was like

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some you know, the fay turn
and protect your dot. Who knows,

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But that would be interesting if she
ever finds out if there's any like stories

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of little people in the area,
especially like if there's like a you know,

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indigenous community there and their folklore.
I know they often talk about the

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little people like this one this,
and if she ever finds some information about

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that, that'd be interesting. Yeah, but also very creepy. Yeah,

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Like I think either it it was
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just ordered more so new eight dollar members

407
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be ready for those. But don't
worry. If you cannot support us monetarily,

408
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:11.240
then you are not missing now on
anything. The best support that you

409
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:14.440
can give us is just listening to
our episodes here, So thank you for

410
00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:21.279
doing that. And we're bad,
okay, Well, Puerto Rico, that's

411
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:23.279
what we're talking about, what we're
supposed to be talking about. So the

412
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:29.319
first story, it's called Lorna del
Pute de las Calabasas and it takes place

413
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:33.119
in Gamo, Puerto Rico. I
think I said that right. Don't come

414
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:37.000
for me. If I didn't,
I apologize I had to time. Many

415
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.640
might be surprised to them that Puerto
Rico has its own lorona legend that's different

416
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:45.519
from the Mexican one. The legend
of Lorna Dee de las Calabasas originated in

417
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:51.559
Coamo, Puerto Rico, which is
located in the south central region of the

418
00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:56.359
island. According to legend, drivers
riding around the town might spot a woman

419
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:59.680
in the middle of the road.
When the driver then stops to speak to

420
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.799
the woman, she asks for a
ride. Those who agreed to give the

421
00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:06.359
woman a ride are then startled when
only a few minutes down the road,

422
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:11.880
the woman turns into a horrendous baby
and starts to cry. The cries which

423
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:18.119
happened a horrendous A horrendous. The
cries have been described as unbearable. Then

424
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:23.039
causes the driver to lose control of
the vehicle and crash into de Las Calabasas.

425
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:26.960
But choosing to ignore the woman won't
spare your life either, because legend

426
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.720
says that the woman will still appear
to drivers who refuse to help her.

427
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:37.039
It's believed that this is probably why
there have been so many accidents reported on

428
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:41.039
the bridge. The most popular belief
states that the woman is the spirit of

429
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:47.759
a mother frantically looking for her children. It's strange. I don't like the

430
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:52.359
baby aspect. Paranormal children freak me
the fuck out. Is she though a

431
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:55.920
parormal child? Because then she said
it's she and then she turns into a

432
00:28:55.960 --> 00:29:00.400
baby, So yeah, it's not
a real baby this time. Are they

433
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:04.279
ever real babies? That's a question? Are they ever? Yeah? I

434
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:17.279
don't know, okay, so uh
the second story is another yes, okay,

435
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:22.559
okay, but uh, I believe
that the legend of Lorna from Puerto

436
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:30.319
Rico is scarier. According to the
townspeople of while driving on Yosa, a

437
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.839
ghostly woman will unnoticeably hop in the
backseat of a car. Drivers are mostly

438
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:38.279
gonna wear until they look at the
rear view mirror and find Lorona staring back

439
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:49.039
at them, and then they get
a accident. That's scary. See,

440
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:52.000
I wouldn't even go that round.
I would have sawt somebody like snuck into

441
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:56.359
my car and then was like surprise, bitch, And then I'd be scared,

442
00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:00.240
like this is the actual person,
Like I'm not getting mugged, A'm

443
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:06.279
I getting robbed? Is this real? For a while, I used to

444
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:08.759
have an irrational fear and that would
like like took my back seat like all

445
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:12.319
the time. You know what,
it's because of that damn urban legend.

446
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:15.279
Oh I thought you were going to
say this because of what our dad did.

447
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:18.680
Oh I forgot what he did.
That was so traumatized. Oh you

448
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:23.160
don't remember. Oh my God blocked
it out of your father to tell the

449
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:26.839
story. Okay, so he thought
it would be I don't remember how old

450
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:29.920
we were, but I know we
went. Our mom took the shopping to

451
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:34.200
the shopping center in Amoryville, and
I remember what the urban. Yes,

452
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:37.880
like there was a lot of stores
that she liked, and so we went

453
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.160
there. And I don't know how
he knew she was there, if she

454
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.480
told them, I don't know whatever, But we left the stores, got

455
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.079
in the car. I don't remember
how old we were, but we were

456
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.839
all less than ten years old for
sure. Elementary school. Yeah, yeah,

457
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:57.599
and our dad was hiding, and
I think we were in the van

458
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:00.519
because he was hiding in the but
you know the vans, you could just

459
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.519
it's not like separate. Yeah,
it's not like a trunk truck right in

460
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.480
the same area. Yeah, so
he's hiding there, he was hiding,

461
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.839
and he pops up and he screams, and then I'm pretty sure we all

462
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.319
pare our pants, you know at
our age when it's okay if you're scared,

463
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:21.240
but not not normal. No,
No, a little brother Legit had

464
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:23.319
like a panic attack. He had
a panic attack. Yeah, I'm like

465
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:26.799
our mom had to find bread or
something to give him, like for susto,

466
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:30.599
basically like to calm him down,
because it was it was like,

467
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.279
what is wrong with this man?
Why would you do that? And our

468
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:37.839
dad was laughing before he realized how
scared we actually were. Yeah. Then

469
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.359
he was like, ah fuck,
yeah. So that's why I was scared

470
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.079
for years. Even when I started
driving it checked. I checked my back

471
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:48.119
seat. Yeah. I still look
at my back seat before when I leave

472
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:51.640
work, and especially when I have
the van. I just like when I

473
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:52.960
peak in there, I'm like,
all right, it's safe, it's safe

474
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.720
to go in there. Which legend, now, I'm curious which legend were

475
00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:01.400
you talking about, Christina. So
there's a movie called Urban Legend, and

476
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:06.519
it's in the movie too, but
basically the legend is and it's also in

477
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.759
one of the Scary Stories to Tell
the Dark books. It's in one of

478
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:14.960
those two. But basically the legend
is that you know, a girl was

479
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:19.119
driving Okay, I know what one
you're gonna say. The car behind her

480
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.200
kept turning on its lights and she's
like, why is this car? What

481
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:24.599
is this car doing? And she
keeps driving. The car follows her and

482
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:30.559
she's freaked out the car then she
turns into her driveway and he's like,

483
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:34.440
no, don't get out of your
car, like, I'm not following you.

484
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.400
There's a person in your backseat and
they've been in there the whole time,

485
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:43.519
and I'm turning on my lights to
stop them from stabbing you. Yeah,

486
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:46.200
that's the legend. Yeah, I
remember, so both of those reasons

487
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:51.759
is why I checked my backseat.
I also reminds you, like I don't

488
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:54.160
know if you guys remember, but
that one time my kid was in the

489
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:59.599
in the backseat of the car and
he's like, I saw Uncle Robbie and

490
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:04.720
it was a friend that had passed
away. That's yes, that's actually the

491
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.960
better out of all of these because
it is you know, it's a friend.

492
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:12.000
It's a friend, a friend,
ghost the ghost. Okay, So

493
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:23.000
next story, this third story is
called elbe and it's also in Puerto Rico,

494
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:27.880
so probably the same bridge. Huh
Is this the same bridge as the

495
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.319
last story? No, no,
no, no, no, this is

496
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:34.519
another bridge. The first one was
in Coamo, Puerto Rico, and then

497
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:39.519
the second story of that goes into
your car was in has another legend similar

498
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:45.160
to the first one, but this
isn't on the same bridge. No,

499
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:52.240
the other one was Calabasas and this
one is but the second story. But

500
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.759
the second story. Oh yeah,
yeah, the second story and this one

501
00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:59.240
are in the same place. Okay, okay, okay, got it.

502
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:08.199
I'm not crazy, Okay, not
sorry. I thought you guys were like

503
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.840
confusing the first or I was like, wait, no, that's like similar,

504
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:16.480
but it's a different city. Okay, okay, so it says Muncho

505
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:21.679
Luna was an alcoholic who went to
town every Saturday to get drunk, and

506
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:23.880
one Saturday night, while on his
way back from work, he heard what

507
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:29.719
sounded like a baby crying. So
Muncho got off his horse and began trying

508
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.079
to find where the cries were coming
from. To his surprise, he found

509
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:38.039
a baby on a Feeling sorry for
the baby, Muncho picked the baby up

510
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:42.800
and took him into his arms,
but the baby would not stop crying.

511
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.599
In an attempt to figure out what
was bothering the baby, Muncho gave the

512
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:50.679
baby a piece of bread in case
of fit was hungry. But then when

513
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:53.360
the baby opened his mouth, he
heard a man's voice coming from the baby.

514
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:59.480
Oh, the voice said, I
have teeth, and that's when the

515
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:06.239
baby showed Mcho his sharp, vampire
like teeth too. A scared demon baby

516
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:16.639
story. I love a drunk deal. It's always a drunk deal. Okay,

517
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:20.559
where was I scared? Muncho then
threw the baby back onto the road

518
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:28.159
and runs he was like, yeah, he literally eated the baby. Oh

519
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:35.119
my god, not today, Satan, okay, a few kids satan.

520
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:39.760
A few days later, Moncho Muncho
got sick and in desperation, promise he

521
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:44.360
would no longer drink if he recovered
fully. Eventually, Muncho did recover,

522
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.280
and he made his way to church, where he gave God thanks for saving

523
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:50.880
him from the demon child. Till
this day, though, many locals say

524
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.320
that you can still hear the baby's
cries from time to time, and many

525
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:58.400
worn visitors to stay away from the
bridge at night. Yeah, this reminds

526
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:02.159
me of don't pedrol somewhere in Mexico. But he also throws a baby.

527
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:07.960
But that one is funny because they
say that the baby said us this puppy.

528
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:22.239
It is just more than farious.
Now that cracks me up. That

529
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:30.559
demon baby definitely wins. The demon
baby quotes yeah yeah, like, give

530
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:46.400
that demon baby an award and restraining
orders this puppy man, Okay, I

531
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:57.079
drink water. Okay. So this
next story is called the hatch a synthena,

532
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:01.239
which is in Ovi supports. This
story is used by many parents to

533
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:06.079
make sure their kids don't stay out
till late. It's the story of I

534
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:10.400
love these okay too. It always
scared me as a child. It's the

535
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:16.800
story of farmer from Orokovis who like
to stay out late fishing. When a

536
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:24.079
fishing story another one one day and
well for patron members, Yeah, I

537
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:28.440
forgot about that. One day,
on his way back from home from fishing,

538
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:32.760
his hatcho that he that he was
using to light the way back home

539
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:36.519
burnt out. I was like,
what is a hatcho? Okay, that

540
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:39.960
makes sense. Wait, what is
a hatcho? It's like a lamp,

541
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:45.360
like a lamp? I would a
gap? Yeah, I don't know.

542
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:47.519
Let me see. Let's google real
quick. Does Yeah, it's a lamp

543
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:53.239
like a like an oil lamp.
Oh okay, mm hmmm. On one

544
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:58.400
day, on his way back home
from fishing, his hatcho that he used

545
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:01.440
to light the way back home burnt
out. As back up, the farmer

546
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:07.239
lit up a wooden crucifix that he
found in his bag. It was the

547
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:09.719
only thing he found in his belongings
that could help the way back home.

548
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:15.320
But God was not pleased with what
the farmer did and punished the farmer instead.

549
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:17.000
A few days later, the farmer
got ill and died. The man

550
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:21.480
spirit was then condemned to stay on
earth and will not be allowed to rest

551
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:28.679
until he finds all the crucifix crucifixes
ashes in Orokovis it said that whenever you

552
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:31.599
see a floating lights in the woods, it's the man with hatrol looking for

553
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:35.880
the missing ashes. So if you're
a kid, you better not get stuck

554
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:39.960
outside after dark. Oh, I
wonder if God has that same sentiment for

555
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:46.480
the KKK right. I found this
thing on Reddit. Someone submitted this legend

556
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:51.679
to No Sleep. But they said
that the father gave the man, and

557
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:55.320
the man the man's name has Binancio
and so he Vnanzi was a fisherman from

558
00:38:55.360 --> 00:39:00.400
a lord Tramley, and the father
gave him a crucifix always have it with

559
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:04.360
him. And he told them like
there was like one rule because the cross

560
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:07.320
was like inherited from the father to
father to father in the family. And

561
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:12.760
so he told him the cross has
to be with you always. It can

562
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:15.800
never leave your side, nor can
it be destroyed. Our family has kept

563
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:22.719
it safe for generations. Don't be
the one that breaks the tradition. And

564
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:28.519
he was so no, no,
no, okay. And I have one

565
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:35.079
last story and it's called the dismembered
bodies of Lahas, and this takes place

566
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:38.199
in Lahas, Puerto Rico. When
you're in Puerto Rico, you might want

567
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:44.239
to stay away from Highway PR one
sixteen near Lahas, especially if you're not

568
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:47.480
a fan of gore, because at
night, especially foggy nights, you might

569
00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:53.119
hear the dogs barking and howling uncontrollably, uncontrollably, Oh my god, Okay,

570
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:59.880
after the barks start. It's been
reported that dismembered body parts crawling their

571
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:04.599
way down the highway. Everything from
legs to arms and torsos have been seen

572
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:08.320
going down the highway. Drivers and
residents of the town cannot identify who the

573
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:13.119
remains belong to. It's said that
p R One sixteen is one of the

574
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:17.079
most fatal roads on the island,
and the dismembered body parts belong to the

575
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:21.599
victims who lost their lives on the
road and are still trying to get to

576
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:27.760
their destination. Ooh, that's scary. Ew I don't like it. I

577
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.840
will not be driving on that road
ever. If I ever make my way

578
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:36.079
to Puerto Rico. I do want
to visit me too, Me too,

579
00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:40.199
at least not on foggy nights.
Yeah, especially not on foggy nights.

580
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:45.639
Maybe you'll feel safe because you won't
see it. Yeah, until they reach

581
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:53.760
you, until one jumps to your
car, windows slams they like, and

582
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:59.400
the slides down. No, stop
it, I'll stop it. You skirreed

583
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:04.280
myself right now. I have nightmares
tonight. I'm blaming you. I'm sorry

584
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:08.159
as you should. Yeah, all
right, and we'll take a quick ad

585
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:19.760
break before getting to the true crime
part and we're back. Okay. So

586
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:23.639
this is a newer case, so
there was not a lot of detail about

587
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:28.760
it. But because it is Pride
Month, I did want to bring light

588
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:30.239
to this case that I didn't know
about. So I feel like more people

589
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:36.519
should know about so trigger warning because
someone is murdered and they are trans so.

590
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.559
On the morning of August eleventh,
twenty twenty three, a mother received

591
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:44.639
news that no one should ever have
to receive. Her son, Louis Angelias

592
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:51.000
Castro, was found decomposing in his
former partner's closet. Oh oh my,

593
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:57.239
and he was only twenty two.
A baby, she's so young. Yeah,

594
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.159
like you don't even know anything at
that age. You think you do,

595
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:04.320
but like you really don't, you
know, just a baby yeah,

596
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:07.639
he was super young, only twenty
two. He was also the twenty sixth

597
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:13.760
transgender, non binary or gender non
conforming person to die by violence at that

598
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:17.519
point in twenty twenty three in the
US, so like just a little halfway

599
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:22.760
through the year. And this was
the twenty sixth murder of a trans someone

600
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:29.599
in the LGBTQ plus ia community and
the second trans murder victim in Puerto Rico

601
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:36.039
that year at that point August twenty
twenty three. And so Louis was born

602
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:40.320
in Baiamond, Puerto Rico. He
attended and graduated from Louis Munos Rivera High

603
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:45.679
School and then attended the university that
the Puerto Rico in Arecibo. And he

604
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:51.360
was kind, hard working, loved
his family, you know. When he

605
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:54.920
graduated, and at the time of
his death, he worked for the US

606
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:59.920
Department of Education in Puerto Rico.
He loved music and had to love this

607
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:04.119
people up because I didn't know who
they were. But ce Marivas, I

608
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:06.880
don't know, No, I couldn't
tell you. I looked him up and

609
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:10.320
it was regaton ish, like if
you mix rigaton and pop. That's what

610
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:15.480
Chris I don't like to me.
I found him on YouTube and then someone

611
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:17.039
else named John Dene. I don't
know who that is. I tried looking

612
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.519
it up and nothing came up.
So I don't know why he's listening to

613
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:24.079
music, but that's the music he
loved, and unlike many of the people

614
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:30.719
that you know, belonged to the
lgbt PSI a community. I hate saying

615
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:32.719
all those words together because it just
reminds me of all us I was.

616
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:39.320
Karmen cuts me off and says legitimate
c yes anyway, So you know,

617
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:45.519
unlike a lot of people, his
family accepted him for who he was.

618
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:47.639
They didn't try to change, and
they didn't cut him off. Beautiful.

619
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:53.639
That's amazing. Yeah, it's and
it's so like shocking to hear too in

620
00:43:53.679 --> 00:44:00.800
our community, like yeah mm hmm. Yeah, and we've more so when

621
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:02.599
you because like I feel like if
you're in the US, but you're also

622
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:07.239
part of the Latino community, maybe
you're it's a little more accepting. Even

623
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:12.639
that's like a reach because you know, it's the same culture and too many

624
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:16.840
Latinos are conservative here. Yeah,
but then you know, you talk about

625
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:22.760
like a transperson in Latin America specifically
you know, Puerto Rico, Mexico,

626
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:29.519
and yeah, they are so other
so stigmatized, So that's there's a reason

627
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:32.719
that they're part of like the most
marginalized groups. So just to hear that

628
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:38.400
he was so accepted is it's really
it's beautiful. So at some point Louis

629
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:45.159
had confided in his mother that his
partner, Domingo Rafael Quinho Ubi, was

630
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:49.320
abusive and the details are hard to
find, but from what I could find

631
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:53.519
through several news sites, Louis ended
up reporting his partner for the abuse and

632
00:44:53.960 --> 00:45:00.599
Ubri Domingo Quino UBI. Sorry,
hard to say all those names. Anyway,

633
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:04.199
he ended up being arrested for this, and he did spend some time

634
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:08.119
in jail, So that's another thing
thing that really happens. Yeah, that

635
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:14.320
he was believed and the prison was
actually arrested. So on the Friday before

636
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:20.519
Louis was found in his in that
closet dead, he had called his mom

637
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:23.280
using a friend's phone, and he
told her that he was very scared because

638
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:30.320
Domingo Rafael had been released from jail
and he was back on the streets and

639
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:34.440
that was the last like anybody heard
of him that phone call. So his

640
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:37.960
mom was obviously super worried. She
went to the police a few hours after

641
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:42.639
that phone call, worried and when
she was at the station, she saw

642
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:49.239
Domingo, the partner ex partner,
being brought in handcuffs, and it turns

643
00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:54.440
out that he had robbed somewhere.
He had committed unrelated to her son,

644
00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:59.679
but he had committed on robbery somewhere
and that's why he was being brought in.

645
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:04.400
When she saw him at the station, she told officers, this man

646
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:08.840
is Louise's my son, his former
partner, and there's a history domestic violence.

647
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:14.960
He was just released and the last
phone call anyone heard from Louise was

648
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:20.920
him saying he was scared. So
because of that, police ended up like

649
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:24.480
talking to him somehow. He consented
to having his apartment, the shared apartment

650
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:30.079
between him and Louise searched, so
because Domingo was in jail, Louise was

651
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:32.760
staying in that apartment still. He
didn't like he thought he was safe.

652
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:38.639
That makes leave, yeah, So
he was still there and Domingo gave the

653
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:42.920
police permission to search the apartment.
And as soon as they opened the door,

654
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.000
right away they knew like something is
wrong here because of the smell,

655
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:51.280
and they went to the closet and
that's where they found Louise deceased under a

656
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:55.559
pile of clothes and a suitcase.
And so this was all very fast,

657
00:46:55.679 --> 00:47:00.360
like it was Friday. He was
reported and then you know, after having

658
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:06.199
Domino and custody questioned him getting permission, they made it to the apartment of

659
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:10.159
Monday morning and they found him.
And it's just very sad to lose someone,

660
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:14.960
you know, in such a violent
way. So his family buried him,

661
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:19.000
and when they buried him, they
you know, because this is something

662
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:22.960
that commonly happens where either of the
family does not attend the funeral at all,

663
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:29.199
which I don't know if you both
remember when we talked about and again

664
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:31.440
it's terrible because I can't remember her
name, but you know the shirt bad

665
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:36.360
Buddy war with the skirt and it
was a big deal, and we talked

666
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:40.000
about that case. Her family did
not attend her funeral. They were like,

667
00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:45.679
she's dead to us. They didn't
even attend. It was the community

668
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:50.079
that knew her that attended her funeral. So in Louisa's case, his family

669
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:54.119
buried him in his name that he
chose. You know, they never once

670
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:58.880
dead named him, which is something
that happens where if they do attend the

671
00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:02.800
funeral, they'll bury them with their
dead name and all this other stuff.

672
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:09.519
At the grave they put like,
you know, the Pride flags on like

673
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:16.519
next to his tombstone. Just really
you know, really beautiful. And they

674
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:22.159
they you know, respected him even
you know, in his death, which

675
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:28.119
yeah, something that rare, sadly
rarely happens. In his grave they wrote

676
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:35.679
Mama tomanos ifamilia, which is just
so sad just reading those. Yea,

677
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:40.199
and I guess in English, will
always remember you, your mom, brothers

678
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:45.920
and family will always be seven,
so a family of seven. And then

679
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:51.880
just to share this from the Human
Rights Campaign director, the director of of

680
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:54.840
that, she said, her name
is Tory Cooper. She's the Sorry Human

681
00:48:54.920 --> 00:49:00.679
Rights Campaign director of community Engagement for
the Trance Justice Initiative. She said the

682
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:06.000
following about Louise. Although it brings
the community some solids knowing Louise's killer is

683
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:08.320
in police custody, it breaks my
heart to witness the life of my trans

684
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:13.039
brother, and far too early.
Louise was only twenty two years old and

685
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.679
should still be alive to experience the
joy that comes with being in your twenties.

686
00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:21.679
Louise's death adds to the drastic uptick
we've seen in transmurders in twenty twenty

687
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:25.239
three, yet in his death we
must remember to celebrate his life. And

688
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:31.239
then the following is from the website
of the Human Rights Campaign, just because

689
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:35.400
they said it much better than I
ever could, So this is just straight

690
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:39.320
copying paste from there. But between
twenty thirteen and twenty twenty two, approximately

691
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:45.760
one third of transgender and gender non
conforming people with known killers. Because a

692
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:49.800
lot of these cases go unsolved as
well, but so of those that the

693
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:53.360
killer was known, their lives were
taken by someone they knew, an acquaintance,

694
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:59.960
a friend, or a family member, or intimate partner. Intimate partners

695
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:06.000
specifically accounted for one in five of
all known perpetrators. And this is something

696
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.679
that's coming with women being murdered as
well. Yeah, that it's the intimate

697
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:14.360
partner. There was like this thing
going on to that thought. There was

698
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:21.880
this thing that men don't have a
problem with very masculine LGBTQ members, but

699
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:29.039
they have problems with feminine LGBTQ members
beciudes, women. They hate women.

700
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:35.239
It's not that they hate gay men, it's that they hate femininity and anything

701
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:40.639
having to do with that that's why
they're so violent, too violent against very

702
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:46.800
feminine men in general. Because somebody
said, like, they have no problem

703
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:55.280
with those bro looking gay men,
but they have a problem with feminine men,

704
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:59.320
and which is true, because you
see that the feminine men being attacked

705
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:00.559
the most. They don't. They
don't. They're not going to come up

706
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:06.280
to a guy that looks like he
could bench five hundred pounds. M h.

707
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:09.840
This makes sense. And then to
continue that quote, to date,

708
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:15.679
the relationship with the victim to the
killer is still unknown for a polarolo for

709
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:21.000
a lot polarity for forty four percent, yes, thank you, I can't

710
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:23.400
say it. I'm not going to
try it. For forty four percent of

711
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:29.920
all identified cases of fatal violence.
At the state level, Transgender and gender

712
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:35.320
non conforming people in Puerto Rico are
not explicitly protected from discrimination and employment,

713
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:39.000
housing, education, and public spaces. Police in Puerto Rico do not collect

714
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:47.280
LGBTQ plus identifying information. Although Puerto
Rico's crime hate crime laws express expressly include

715
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:53.039
both sexual orientation and gender identity,
prosecutors in Puerto Rico rarely apply it.

716
00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:58.559
Though we have recently seen some political
gains that support and affirmed trans people.

717
00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:05.639
We have also faced un presented,
unprecedented anti LGBTQ plus attacks in the States.

718
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:12.199
Over five hundred anti LGBTQ plus bills
were introduced in state legislatures across the

719
00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:16.800
country during twenty twenty three, over
two hundred and twenty of which directly targeted

720
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:22.400
trans people. As of this writing, which was twenty twenty three, eighty

721
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:28.079
five anti LGBTQ plus bills have been
signed into law, more than any other

722
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:31.480
year on record, and now is
twenty twenty three. Wow. We must

723
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:37.679
demand better from our elected officials and
reject harmful anti trans legislation at local,

724
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:42.639
state, and federal levels, while
also considering every possible way to make ending

725
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:47.079
this violence of reality. It is
clear that fatal violence disproportionally affects trans women

726
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:53.119
of color, especially black transgender women. The intersections of racism, transphobia,

727
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:58.639
sexism, by fobia, and homophobia
conspired to deprive them of necessities to live

728
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:01.639
and thrive. We must all work
together to cultivate acceptance, reject hate,

729
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:07.199
and end stigma for everyone in the
trans and gender non conforming community. And

730
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:10.280
yeah, I just wanted to read
that because it's very important. Applausus applausus

731
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:15.519
all around. That was me applauding
with one hand. This is they were

732
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:17.920
kind of applaud applus. It's because
I was looking at the episode I was

733
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:21.840
going to recommend and I just wanted
to find it. I was holding my

734
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:25.880
phone. Okay, okay, but
yeah, I wanted to add that because

735
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:30.719
again, as Carbon and I say, and MJ we say all of us

736
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:32.880
all the time, a true crime
case is more than just a true crime

737
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:37.519
case. You know, as we
talked about in last episode, the you

738
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:43.440
know, activism of Ometo is what
got him targeted and he was murdered for

739
00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:49.840
his activism. But also you know, also with that comes the indigenous population

740
00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:54.440
that live in the area and how
indigenous activists are often the ones killed.

741
00:53:54.480 --> 00:54:00.880
But also this goes over to how
trans people, especially of color, are

742
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:05.079
you know, not what I don't
want to say, murdered the most,

743
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:08.920
but are affected the most by this. Yeah, and yeah, that is

744
00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:13.400
the case. Just it happened last
year, so there's not a lot of

745
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:17.320
information, but you know, from
what we do know is that Louise was

746
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:22.840
loved by his family and it was
a life cut way too short. And

747
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:27.719
yeah, yeah, let's move let's
move on. To speaky recommendations. I

748
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:30.199
have one m j oh Cartman.
Do you want to go first, Acond,

749
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:35.440
yes, since I already blurted out, whoever blurret out goes first.

750
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:42.239
It's really how we did think,
so it really is. Today I listened

751
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:49.119
to the Lao serial Killer episode of
True Crime Cases with Laney shout out,

752
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:52.920
Laney, very much in line with
the case you talked about today, because

753
00:54:52.920 --> 00:55:00.199
this is about a man who killed
trans women in Laredo, Texas. And

754
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:06.320
I'm really bad at remembering names,
but something I remembered was one of the

755
00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:13.199
victims. Her family also accepted her
immediately. I love that her younger sister

756
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:17.440
even said, now I have the
big sister I always wanted. Now im

757
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:22.079
legit almost cried when I heard that
I have children right now. Just cried

758
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:27.559
right now. Yeah. And I
can't remember if it was that same victim

759
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:32.079
or a different one. So,
but her family she had talked to another

760
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:38.400
family member about her watching I can't
remember who it was, some celebrity on

761
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:43.920
TV and the celebrities wearing our red
dress and then she says, I want

762
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:45.920
to wear that. She told her
family, I want to wear that when

763
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:49.360
I die in my funeral that's what
I want to wear. And her family

764
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:53.320
respected that and they she was wearing
a red dress when they buried her,

765
00:55:53.519 --> 00:56:00.519
and they decorated her tomb with like
pride flags and everything, and I'm like,

766
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:05.199
just a what a beautiful thing that
they accepted her and loved her for

767
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:08.719
who she was. Yeah, seriously, I'm going to send you guys the

768
00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:13.960
little real that the family made of
Louise, just so you guys can see.

769
00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:17.239
It's gonna be in the chat,
the Facebook chat. Okay, so

770
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:22.320
you can see his grave that they
made. I'm watching it right now.

771
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:25.679
Oh, I'll have a friend with
that birthday born in two thousand, Yeah,

772
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:30.639
two thousand, so young. But
yeah, do you guys I see

773
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:34.199
that? Yeah, you know his
pictures there his you know his name?

774
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:39.280
Yeah, the flags just beautiful.
Yeah, I like that they put a

775
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:45.079
picture. Yeah, MJ, do
you have any speaking There's the same recommendation

776
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:51.559
from that our Patreon members got to
know, which I'll share with everybody else,

777
00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:55.840
which is that I watched Godzilla Minus
one. It was really good.

778
00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:02.840
I love Godzilla, any of those
I've been wanting to see that and my

779
00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:07.000
paranormal on camera. I think that's
that's all. I got that's my usual.

780
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:15.559
I have only been watching Degrassi still, okay, and now you can

781
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:21.440
stop talking. Damn. Now you're
right. Nobody else wants to hear about

782
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:23.519
the Grassy. I still haven't watched
it, but I will give it.

783
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:29.079
I'll watch it eventually. You're honestly, unless you want like some crappy teen

784
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:37.039
cheesy drama show. You know who
always reminds me of the Secret Life of

785
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:42.079
a teenager, it's a little better. No, that one was worse yead.

786
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:45.920
I didn't realize how bad it was
until I started rewatching clips that should

787
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:50.360
pop up on Instagram, and oh
my, it was so cringey like that

788
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:54.320
that was the first episode, was
Ricky when he does so like I don't

789
00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:58.719
know what it was, that like
a real oh my god, I hadn't

790
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:01.679
even seen that. Yeah, yeah, how about when the other guy she's

791
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:07.360
dating and she decides to go out
with Ben I think his name is,

792
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:14.400
and he's like, you're my whore. I've been romantic. Yeah, but

793
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:19.960
yeah, Like I couldn't stand Amy
as a character, And like even then

794
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:22.679
I wanted to just just throw hands
because she was so annoying, but like

795
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:28.760
she was now more more so she
was so annoying. Definitely, definitely.

796
00:58:29.639 --> 00:58:32.800
Yeah, okay, and then I
do have one more actual speaking recommination.

797
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:37.000
I listened to guests Bookie's latest episode. It was a lot of fun.

798
00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:39.039
I cannot remember what it was about, so but it's the latest one.

799
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:44.599
Then it is the latest one,
and they released monthly, so so you'll

800
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:47.639
find it. It's gonna be the
Yeah, I'm so behind on my podcast.

801
00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:51.679
I have not had time to listen
to any of them, like behind

802
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:55.480
three months on like fifteen. That
is very behind. Oh, ritual games.

803
00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:59.239
That's what they did, ritual games. And yeah, it's a lot

804
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:01.000
of fun because some games I did
not hear about. I shall I see

805
00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:06.280
if they Mother Midnight, Sarda Sarrita. I knew about Sada Sarrita, but

806
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:08.000
I didn't know about Mother Midnight.
But yeah, it's a fun episode.

807
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:13.320
So that's my actual spooky recommendation.
And yeah, I will not talk about

808
00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:19.119
the grassymore and we can end here
my child's crime. All right, Thanks

809
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:22.920
both of you for joining me for
this episode. Carmen again has contractual obligations

810
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to be here. Yes, I
don't know, I guess. Don't pick

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up crying babies on random bridges in
Puerto Rico or anywhere. Okay, and

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oh sorry, no, before we
go, just a reminder that if you

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are in the Denver area, check
out the True Crime Paranormal Podcast Festival exactly

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one month at theetemb recording so September
twelfth through the fourteenth September July next month,

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Julio, thank you, Kurmin Yes
wow, July twelve to fourteenth in

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Denver, Colorado, the True Crime
Paranormal Podcast Festival. Karmen and I will

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be there. We'll have a little
table. I told Laney to put us

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next to Aiden from Susto please like
you better put us next to each other.

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Carmen, we are partaking in a
panel now, no, okay,

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yes, happening please because I won't
be there, let me Yeah, there

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might be a virtual option. I'll
let you guys know, but yeah,

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but either way, we'll record it
back. Okay, I'm gonna mentally prepare

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myself. I'm already getting high.
Now you have a month, Yeah,

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you have a month. Yeah,
We're gonna have a little table there.

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I will have stickers with me.
Come say hi please because we're gonna be

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there. So yeah, I'm and
a bunch of other people obviously, but

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like we are so so yeah that
is happening, so yeah, get your

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tickets. You can use cod Spooky
fifteen from fifteen percent off and yeah that's

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it, say spooky. We'll catch
everyone next time. Bye bye. Spooky

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or don't want to, that's fine. Join the Patreon then consider getting some

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merch. We have an adorable beanie
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It's so comfy, it's warm,
it has a spooky in Old English

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letters. There's also a baseball hat
in the same way as spooky and Old

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English letters, and that's what I
wear in the summers. They're both awesome

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hats. And there's other things in
there, like the no Mama's shirts,

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which is a very popular shirt.
If you like history, check out my

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other podcast, Estoya is Unknown,
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of a Spooky Teals, Carmen.
And if you like no velast checkout no

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Velaskokfisito, which Carmen and I also
host together. And yeah, we love

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every single listen every single a spooky
Thank you so much, Stay as spooky.