Sept. 1, 2023

Haunted Statues in Latin America

Haunted Statues in Latin America

Do you ever see a statue and think to yourself, yeah, that's haunted. There are many statues that spawn legends, on today's episode, Cristina shares the legend of el Diablo del Jardin (the Devil in the Garden) from Argentina, the legend of las 7...

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Do you ever see a statue and think to yourself, yeah, that's haunted. There are many statues that spawn legends, on today's episode, Cristina shares the legend of el Diablo del Jardin (the Devil in the Garden) from Argentina, the legend of las 7 cabecitas in Chihuahua, Mexico and the haunted statue in Bakersfield, California.

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Hi, everyone, This is Christina
and Krmen. Yes, there's no empty

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today. She is recovering from a
cold, not COVID. She checked a

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bunch of times. Yeah that would
suck. I mean a cold. Still

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it still sucks. Yeah yeah,
but it's still better than COVID, I

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think. Yeah. Yeah. So
Krmen's here today and we are talking about

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well, I'm going to be telling
you, Carmen about some hauntage statues.

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Yeah yeah, one in Mexico,
one in Argentina, and then I threw

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in a little bonus one in California. All right, yeah, but before

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that, I have a listener story
and I won't let you get through it

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zero interruptions. Oh, we'll see
about that. Are you drinking water?

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Yeah, it's because I had a
cup of coffee earlier in the morning.

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I didn't finish it all though,
and then you know, I traded myself

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to Smoky's, this restaurant I like
only Monday through Friday. Today is a

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Friday. I have off magically because
I quested it off, magically requested it

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on. So yeah, I treated
myself to Smokies and I got of anol

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latte there. Oh lovely. It
was probably like a sixteen ounce ish and

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so I felt it was too soon
for more coffee and I just finished that

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like an hour ago. Okay,
I can see that. And also I

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not drink any water all day.
Yeah, you had a tough test to

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get through, and you can't be
through through the test. Yeah I did

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once the time the clock was running. It didn't stop for me to be

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but I had to wow, and
you're still passed. Okay, that's all

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clap for Carmen. So yes,
a listeners story before I get to the

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story. If you have a story
that you want to send into the podcast,

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you can email Espuitos at gmail dot
com, sendit it on our discorn.

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You can give us a call.
I'll leave it in a voicemail.

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We just got one. I,
however, did have it ready to play

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or I would have played it here, but I have it. We'll probably

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listen to a next episode, So
thank you so much for the person who

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did that. I already listened to
it and I forgot so it's like it's

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gonna be like new for me.
That's an option. You can email a

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voicemail in Some people have done that, and yeah, we'll play it in

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the episode. So I always love
receiving everything, but those I think are

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like extra extra, extra fun.
And this wasn't in via email, so

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I would just read the whole thing. Hello Christina and MJ. There's no

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MG today, and Carmen, I'm
gonna replace it. Hello Christina and Carmen.

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You guys are the best and I
enjoy listening to all your back and

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forth and storytelling. I am currently
writing this from the most haunted room of

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the Alex Johnson Hotel in South Dakota. Wow. My job allows me to

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travel, and when I travel,
I try to stay in haunted places.

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I love that. I wouldn't do
the same. Maybe said you wouldn't do

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the same. I would, but
you wouldn't even go upstairs in our grandma's

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house. Shut the fuck up,
fucking at You're right, You're right.

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No, I called you out.
I didn't attack you. Well, it

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wasn't attack for me, even though
you are calling me out, I feel

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attacked. Yeah, No, you're
right, I won't even go upstairs because

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I'm scared. I won't either.
I'm just saying like I also wouldn't stay

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in haunt and placed it on purpose. I think if I was already there,

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I wouldn't leave, but yeah,
I wouldn't go. I wouldn't leave.

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Seek it out, you wouldn't leave. Yeah, I wouldn't leave.

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I am too broke to like go
and find any hotels. I could sing

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it for that, you would sing
it. Okay, let me continue now.

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Before I get to my listeners story, I wanted to give you a

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little background on the room I'm staying
in. Supposedly people encounter of women in

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white. She was a young bride
who died by suicide by jumping out of

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the window of this room, Room
one hundred and twelve. There are different

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accounts, and reportedly she likes to
open the window in the middle of the

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night, so I might wake up
to that. You know what, by

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the time we're reading this, let
us know. If you did wake up

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to that, let me know.
I need to know. The hotel even

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keeps a log at the front desk
where people can write out their experiences in

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the room. Wow. Wow.
If I do end up experiencing anything,

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I will be sure to update you. Okay, So maybe maybe she didn't.

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Anyway, onto my actual listener story
that takes place in Mexico. These

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are experiences from my parents when they
lived in Quahuila, Mexico. The house

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they lived in was in front of
a little creek. My parents would experience

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a lot of things in the house. For example, my dad really liked

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reading those novellas with this sleazy cover, and he would leave the stacks of

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them on their dresser. One night, my mom and dad were sleeping when

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they woke up to the sound of
the novellas smacking against each other and were

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having sex. I guess da wow. They both said that they were too

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scared to move, but when they
finally did, they could see the stacks

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of novellas had been moved to the
floor. It was as if the novellas

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that sat on top of the stack
on the dresser were being stacked perfectly on

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the ground, one by one.
Oh that makes more sense. Okay,

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yeah, I just thought they were
like sitting. We're so fucking dumb.

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Oh my god. The fact that
we thought the same thing just cements how

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dupe. I was gonna say,
how we're like twins, but that's how

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we're done twins. Oh my god. Okay. When my mom would be

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cooking, she would have multiple pots
on the stove, one for beans,

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one for rice, one day,
she left the food on the stove to

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cook and she went out to sweep
the stoop, so she spent a few

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minutes outside. When she came back
inside, she saw that the burners that

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she had put the pods on were
off and that the pots had been moved

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to completely different burners. This would
happened multiple times. Lastly, there was

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one time my dad woke up in
the middle of the night and had to

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go to the bathroom. As he
was walking down the hallway, he felt

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someone blowing on the back of his
neck. That's the worst one yet,

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Oh my god. Being the middle
of the night, my mom was sleeping

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and nobody else was in the house. He wiped his neck, turned around

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and saw that there was nobody there. There were always rumors that children had

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drowned in the creek that ran behind
the house, and even though the occurrences

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scared them, they never really felt
malicious. They felt malicious to me.

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No, those were like playful.
I think. The only one that felt

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malicious to me was the neck touching
thing blowing on the That's what it was.

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Yeah, Oh I don't like it. So those are our stories.

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Again. Huge fan of the podcast, Keep up the great work, Janey,

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Thank you Janey for sending that in. And wow, yeah, sorry

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we got confused with the magazine story. I think only we could have done

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that. I think everyone else would
have been like, oh they're being moved

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any were like someone's clapping, the
magazine is together. Oh my god.

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Our would says, she would call
us at us, which is short.

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Yeah, that's how much she's she
calls us. Yeah, yeah, that

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she shortened it to at us.
And now she's saying, as long as

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we're anymore, just at that now
yeah, so now yeah, she'll like

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still message like yeah, because sometimes
we'll have moments like this. You know

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who doesn't, right, right,
yeah, right right? You know the

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first thing, the first story she
said, a sort of story she said

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about the hotels and the bride jumping
off. It reminds me of every hotel

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story that M tells on and that's
why we drink. Oh yeah, yeah.

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If a hotel doesn't have a story
of a woman jumping out of the

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window, is it even a hotel? That's my question. Yeah, and

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she has to have a white dress
or a red dress on. Yeah,

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although there is somewhere I don't remember
if it's California or somewhere else. There's

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a train station with a lady in
a green dress. Oh wow, green

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dress. That's different. Yeah,
I want to know where the ghosts are,

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where the girlies are with like the
big T shirts and hoop ear rings

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and jeans and like Nike. Where
are those ghosts? You know what?

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I never hear haunted stories about,
like you know, the hood. I

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feel like that's where they would be. And that's the kind of ghost that

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I would want to be haunted by
because I would be like, you know,

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you probably grew up next to me, and I wouldn't be afraid of

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you. You're not like some races
from the eighteen hundreds exactly. You're not

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gonna blow out my neck in the
middle of the night because you get it.

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You get it. You're gonna move
my pots around maybe, but like

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that, Yeah, if anything,
you're gonna watch out for me and that

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sense you're more of an angel than
a ghost. And that's what the song

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Angel Baby was truly about. A
ghost. I love that song. You

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start singing it, but I can't
do that. They're not seeing it's terrible.

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So my first story, well,
first, before I get into the

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hunted statue stories that I have written
down carpet and I first we grew up

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in Oakland, and then we moved
to Modesto, California. But in Oakland

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on I don't know if it's still
there either, But on thirty fourth Street,

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I think, is that where our
cousins lived. It was, I

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don't think. So we were on
thirty fifth. We would walk over to

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their house. But on the way
to their house we passed a big house

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that had these like lions sages.
Oh okay, yeah, that wasn't thirty

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fourth Stree. That was a different
stree. They were further away and thirty

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fourth next to thirty five. Yeah, they lived like We had to pass

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the library. And if you're from
Oakland, you know exactly what we're talking

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about, because is there more than
one library. I don't know. There

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might be the big citywn yeah,
city Ivan. No one will know what

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we're talking about because they have a
horrible sense of navigation, which is even

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worse as children. So this is
true. This is true. So anyway,

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there was a big house and I
know what house you're talking about.

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Yeah, you know what house.
No one else knows what house I'm talking

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about. Anyway, this bed.
Yeah, this doesn't matter. The point

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is. The point is we walked
by a house with lions statues, and

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I imagined that those statues came to
life. And then when our mom told

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us the story of Las even more
so, I was like, oh my

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god, those lions are gonna attack
me. But we never walked in the

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middle of the night there or so
we were safe. And then in Modesto,

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okay, people will know this.
Probably when you're leaving Deep and you're

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going into the downtown area of Modesto
or the rest of Medesto, you have

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to go through that little bridge,
Lion Bridge. Lion Bridge, okay,

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and there has lion statues as well. It still did they take them all?

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Are they gone? I drive there
often and I don't remember. I

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just haven't been trying to avoid that
bridge because somebody told me it was like

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socially unsound. NIU fall at any
moment? What the buck? Yeah,

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somebo told me, like, oh
business forever. I guess every day.

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I know, That's what I told
them. I'm like, I used to

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drive every day to fucking school.
And they're like, yeah, no,

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I don't drive that way. They're
like, I go the opposite way.

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If you kept going a couple streets
down on Age, you could get on

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the freeway and skip the bridge like
you didn't have to take the bridge.

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Can keep going down and take the
freeway instead of the bridge. Wow,

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well we could have died. Get
to know. Point is of that is

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that I also thought those statues were
haunted. Anytime I see a statue,

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IM like this as a person,
the ghost is trapped inside and at night

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they come out. I mean I
used to not anymore. Yeah, right,

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we have outgrown those beliefs. Yeah, yeah, And but today I

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have some actual allegedly haunted statues,
not my imagine, our imagination, because

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we both thought this. The first
one Islen Woo the Devil in the Garden

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of the Garden one of those.
I think both work. I don't know

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English second language. So many years
ago, there was once a man who

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lived on a farm that was located
on La Avenida, Argentina. I like

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that name, he was going to
say that. Yah. Yeah. He

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was a greedy man who called upon
the devil to grant him a wish.

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The man told the devil that if
he helped him win the biggest lottery in

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the region, he would give him
his soul and build a statue in his

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honor so that everyone could see it
and worship him. The devil agreed,

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and soon the man's wish came true, and he won the lottery and returned.

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The man made good on his promise, and he began to build the

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statue. He worked tirelessly to finish
it, but just before it was completed,

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several neighbors heard loud, agonizing screams
coming from the man's farm. When

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the townspeople went to check on the
man, they found him paralyzed and in

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a similar pose as the statue.
WHOA, that's good. Quickly no one

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could explain what happened to the farmer, but the townspeople began to believe that

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the man's soul became trapped in the
statue. Is that not? What I

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said? Is exactly? Wow?
Did you did you know the story?

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I guess, I guess deep down
did and deep down in your soul that

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you still have because you didn't sell
it to the devil? Exactly exactly Yeah,

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yet not yet. The statue itself
was terrifying, with many who claimed

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to have seen it saying it was
the color white and the same height as

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an adult it had a pointy goatee, large horns, and a diabolical grin

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with a stair that struck fear in
you yiankes terrible. Some also claimed that

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the statue was kneeling on its left
leg while its right hand was over its

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bent right leg. I'm sorry what
yah? So it was it was kneeling

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because left leg was touching the ground, the right leg was up, and

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it was resting its hands on the
right leg. Oh I see, I

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see. Yeah. So the leg
that was up was the right one,

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and that's the one that the hands
were on. Yeah, so like you

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how you this doesn't work? But
you see I can like, okay,

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yes, yeah, I didn't think
you were gonna acted out, so I

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needed to want to see Carmen acting
individualize it. Okay, that makes sense.

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Yeah, that's why I did that. I didn't know. No,

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oh my god. Additional claims also
say that the statue's left hand held a

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flute, and others say was holding
onto its beard. It's terrifying that people

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remember a different things. Yeah.
I don't like it. No, Like

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it's changing knows you're reading it or
saying it and then changing itself, yes

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to reflect whatever, whatever. A
flute means I don't know. I don't

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know. Musicians are diabolical though,
so they always sell their soul. Yeah.

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And if a guy, if a
man, is a musicians, he's

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gonna break your heart. So that's
why they learned the guitar. Guitar.

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Yeah. And if he can sing, oh my god, it's over.

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Don't even go there, no hurt. The same about dancers, and if

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they can sing and dance, you're
fucking dud. Don't even unless you're looking

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to get your heartbroken. That's time. Some people want that, you know,

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to feel alive. I don't know
either way. The frightening statue became

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an eyesore in the town, so
the townspeople tried to get rid of it

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by throwing it down the river,
but somehow it always should back up guiji

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board uh huh yeah, And yeah
it showed back up just fine, like

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like nothing that ever happened to it. Uh huh yeah, like new wow.

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For the next following years, several
people in the town reported having an

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eerie feeling whenever they passed by the
statue, but no one dared to try

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and move it again. They feared
they would meet the same tragic fate as

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the farmer who built it. In
nineteen sixty five, though a man bought

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the farmer's property and opened a restaurant
called The Restaurant became popular, and even

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though the restaurant owner claimed that the
statue was not haunted, many people from

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across the country still visited the restaurant
to have a chance to stare into the

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statue's eyes and possibly catch a glimpse
of the farmer's soul who was supposedly trapped

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in it. Well, I'd do
that. I do that because there's no

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risk there. I think if you're
just going looking at a statue and leaving,

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I mean, nothing's going to happen, right if you look at the

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n eyes so far or no,
I don't think so, other than it

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didn't say it was going to still
their soul or anything like that. So

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eventually the restaurant's owner sold their property, and with the restaurant, the statue

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also disappeared. What it was just
gone one day. No one knows what

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happened to the statue, and photos
of it do not exist, but many

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claim that the new owners threw it
away and replaced it with the Holy Water

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Fountain, hoping that it'll keep evil
energy away. Honestly, I'm not a

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fan of that. I wish they
would have kept it. Me too,

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me too. Like they said of
themselves that it wasn't haunted. Why don't

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I just leave it there? Yeah, nothing was happening, you know.

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Yeah, like if you want to
be somewhere where there's holy water, just

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go to church. Yeah, but
leave the statue, like, don't bring

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the holy water to the restaurant.
Although it was in a restaurant anymore,

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I guess. So, yeah,
I don't know. I don't know what

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it was after the Yeah, let
to see if it's in here, Okay,

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I don't know if it became anything. Even though the city of Parana

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has changed a lot since the devil
statue was there, some people like the

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architect Marcello Almost, who lived there
years and it's the director of the Museum

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of Drossa Galisteo, swears the statue
was real. Yeah, I guess.

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Yeah. There's people that still remember
it and people that have no idea.

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I never saw it, and it's
just gone like it's nowhere now, it's

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nowhere. So Marcello almost says that
the statue was a fun and not a

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devil, but other people swear it
was a devil. Yeah, like a

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goat, but it had legs.
It's like a centaur. But I'm imagining,

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Okay, that's exactly what I was
picturing, you know, like the

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guy from Hercules. Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, where he's

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like a half goat, half person. Yeah, that's what I was picturing

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also, but also like the centaurs
from Harry Potter. Okay, they have

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four legs and he only has two
legs. Yeah, okay, well that's

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still pretty creepy even if it wasn't. I mean, I could use that

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for the devil for sure, Like
yeah, but even that has warns,

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you know. Yeah, yeah,
that's not a fun that's the devil.

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Nowadays, the farm and the statue
no longer stand and instead it's a commercial

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building. That's what it is now. Thanks Don. I was wondering what

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it was now, so glad she
answered that. Wor us. Why is

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there no pictures of it? Did
it say in the years? So the

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restaurant opened in nineteen sixty five,
and matter how long the restaurant was opened

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before it closed down, I mean, yeah, there would could be pictures

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of it then. Yeah, I
wish that would have been cool. Yeah,

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Thank you for doing that. Okay, this next one I have talked about

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on TikTok, but you know,
like very briefly because it's a one minute

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video. Actually, I think this
is like forty five seconds what I uploaded

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it to TikTok. But this is
the legend of in Chihuahua. Interesting.

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I'm hooked already. Yeah, I
mean, you know, you just hear

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that and you're like what, You're
like intriguing, and like if you pass

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by this statue or monument, I
think you pass by and you're like,

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what the fuck? Because it is
the so I mean, hence the name

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the Seven Little Heads. It's a
big, like rectangular monument. It's it's

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big, and then in the middle
there's like bronze seven bronze heads, seven

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bronze heads, yeah, yeah,
of little boys. And then underneath each

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head there's a name of each boy. And then there's a bigger plaque that

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I cannot find a clear picture of
it, and I don't know what it

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says, yeah, but I think
it just is talking about maybe what happened

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on that day, which I'm going
to tell you what happened on that day.

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So on kilometer twenty one of the
Catererica. This is a road in

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Chihuahua, Chihuahua, Chihawa. So
the city of Chihuahua in the state of

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Chihuahua in Mexico, just passed a
road known as La sometimes also called Laura

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Perico. Either way, it's a
dangerous curve. Well I prefer the parrot

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name, yeah, right, parrot
curve or death curve, Yeah, exactly.

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So just past that curve there's a
monument depicting the seven heads of young

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boys and a plaque like I just
described. This monument was put up after

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a tragic accident. So on August
first, nineteen thirty nine, twenty five

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boys, all age ten to fourteen. They were all part of the Young

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Men's Christian Association of Chihuahua, so
the YMCA. I just never knew what

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the letters were I heard before then, like I forget those every time I

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hear it, it's like a shock, Like what really that's what it's called.

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I don't know. It was a
religious organization either. Anyway, they

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were traveling on and this is a
truck, like a cargo truck. And

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if you've seen old like even pictures
from like the labor union strikes, like

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farmers, farmers, Oh my god, what are they called? Farm workers.

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There's these trucks and on the back
they have like wood panels. Are

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okay, yeah, and we're talking
that is that is the truck. So

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these type of trucks are they're not
made anymore because they're not really safe.

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Uh yeah, yeah. And you
know back then they were used to carry

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people in the back and so you
know, this was very normal, very

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common, and so the some of
the boys, I want to say most

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of the boys were sitting in the
back of the truck on boxes and they

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were headed to a national park,
all also in Chihuahua, and they were

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going to camp there for a week. And this was a normal ride,

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you know, as young boys are
going to do in the back of a

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truck. They're laughing, they're singing, apparently they were yelling at house,

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you know whatever boy things. And
then it was five pm that afternoon when

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another vehicle they were heading to that
curve that I just mentioned. So they

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were they were going and this doesn't
make sense if you're on audio, but

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they were going that way on the
curve like the car north. Yes,

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yeah, yeah, yeah, so
they were Yeah, they were going like

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north. They were going to take
the turn, and then coming down the

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curve was another car. Yikes.
And again, like I said, it

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was a dangerous curve. They didn't
see the truck. And then later the

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driver of that vehicle said that his
brakes weren't working, but that he did

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see the truck. So it was
like a conflicting story either way. He

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came straight down the curve. They
were turning at a slower velocity. Then

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that truck driver was coming down,
so they crashed. They my head on,

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yes, and these boys were on
the back of the truck. So

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seven of the boys died. Four
of them died like sorry. Three of

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them died on the spot after the
crash. Four of them died in the

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hospital. However, if you hear
versions of the legend, some will say

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that they were decapitated during the crash, which is not true. It's just

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part of the legend. They were
not decapitated. It's more ominous though,

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if you think that the seven boys
were decapitated and then there's a monument with

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their heads, yeah, I would
fall from that, or I would believe

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the legend because of the seven Little
Hints, and it's probably why that version

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exists. There's also versions of the
legend that say it's a bus and not

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a cargo truck, and that the
kids were sticking their head out of the

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windows, oh man, when another
bigger truck passed by, and then that's

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how they were decapitated. That was
like a popular like urban myth. Yeah,

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I was deadly, deadly, frankly
yeah yeah, stick in my hand

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out, Oh yeah, that I
was gonna say. Yeah, I thought

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a car was gonna clutch us my
head. Yeah yeah, I wouldn't never

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and every time I saw dogs and
this is kid me, not me now,

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But I also thought that it was
like your head back in Yeah,

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like I know you like it,
but please you're in danger, legit or

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for those dogs, Yeah, reminds
me our poor dog. We had a

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little dog named Peewee, and my
art art dad, for some reason,

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was driving a truck and instead of
bringing our little tiny dog in front with

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him, he put him in the
bag on the freeway. And then he

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was driving and from from his mirror, his yeah, the side of his

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mirror, he just saw our dog
dangling. Another car honked at him and

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I thought the car was being like
crazy trying to pass or being like you

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know that kind of driver, like
trying to pass him up or just honking

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for no reason. And then like
finally flung him down and was pointed in

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the bag. My dog's like what
and he looks in the rear view mirror

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or the mirror and then he sees
our fucking dog dangling from his leash.

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Hey, you know, for dear
life, that poor dog. Were not

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listened to him for like a month
after or longer. I don't even remember.

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Pee wee was a survivor, he
survived that. I could not believe

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it. So, you know,
after hearing that, I was like,

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Okay, dogs sticking their head out
of the window. They're safe because our

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dogs survived dangling for the side of
a truck on the freeway. Like yeah,

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anyway, So yeah, these boys
were not sticking their head out of

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the window, as the popular legend
will depict. No, they were sitting

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in the back on boxes and that's
very dangerous to do, obviously, but

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again, this is what's normal at
the time. So one of the survivors,

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Alberto Contreras, he said that all
of their things after the accident everything

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was all over the road. It
was a horrible site. Clothes, food,

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blankets, the boxes that the boys
were using as seats, and blood,

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blood everywhere. Plus you know,
their friends that had passed away.

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And yeah, like I said,
part of the legend, will you know

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say that all boys died at the
same time, like they're on the SPA,

389
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:08.359
but three of them did. Four
passed away in the hospital later.

390
00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:14.279
It was a tragic accident. The
whole state of Chihuahua was mourning the death

391
00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:15.920
of the boys because I mean,
it's like it's seven kids. They were

392
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.039
so young too. Yeah, they
were so young. And I will say,

393
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:22.400
I mean, I think every country
but Mexico like loves kids. And

394
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:29.400
like when you go to Helisco,
there's these signs everywhere that's say or when

395
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:32.799
you mean well, and it doesn't
make sense to me because none of it

396
00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:37.160
is really the sidewalk is dangerous.
Yeah, no, it's true, it

397
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:41.279
is. It doesn't it's not child
friendly, but there's signs everywhere. The

398
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:45.400
city's structure is not child friendly.
But okay, yeah, people love kids.

399
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:48.799
Like I've said this before on the
podcast, but when I traveled to

400
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:55.880
Mexico compared to traveling to within the
States. Yeah, people are so nice

401
00:27:55.920 --> 00:28:00.480
in Mexico. They're like they'll help
you hold your child with like, oh

402
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.720
you need help here, let me
grab them and whatever's it's it's very nice

403
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:08.400
anyway. So yeah, people they
were very sad. They were mourning the

404
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:12.599
loss of these seven children, and
so they put up a monument on the

405
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:18.559
twenty sixth of May and nineteen forty
and this was built to forever remember the

406
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:22.000
young boys who died on that tragic
day. Well also to warn other drivers

407
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:25.960
of the dangerous curve. Like they
thought maybe they'll see this and like,

408
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:29.759
hey, these kids died here,
like this curve slowed down. It's dangerous.

409
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:37.039
Yeah. The boys who died it
was a fourteen year old Venacio Gabriel

410
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:41.240
and Jorge Yokoman. They were all
fourteen. No I messed up something here.

411
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:44.440
They were thirteen or fourteen, okay, oh, no, I got

412
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:48.839
it. Venacio and Armando were fourteen, Jorge Yokoman was thirteen. Luise Diaz

413
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:56.039
Garcia and Theodoro Faulkner they were eleven. Interesting last name, that's so young.

414
00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:03.160
Yeah, and then Alberto Menespenya and
Racio Brundo were ten. Oh my

415
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:06.680
god. Even younger, even younger. Yeah, some of these names.

416
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:11.359
I just love their like old timing
names. Vinacio, yeah, though it

417
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.240
was making a comeback in English at
least. I don't know about Spanish.

418
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:17.480
Really, I didn't know that.
Yeah, Theodore. There's a lot of

419
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:23.319
Theos. Although I will say twenty
eighteen children that are some type of Latino.

420
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:26.799
Latino, that kid's gonna be named
Matteo. When I'm at the park

421
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:30.400
with my Matteo. There's a ton
of fun there. Weren't the only one

422
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.400
that chose that name that year,
No, I was not. It's a

423
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.160
very popular name. And you know
what, I don't even care because he's

424
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:41.799
going to experience. There's like a
bunch of Christina's in the classroom. It's

425
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:47.599
so funny because in every grade there's
maybe one other Carmen or no other Carmens

426
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:51.880
in our grade in high school and
there were like three other Christinas and every

427
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:55.559
one of my classes. Yeah yeah, and so I have a complex about

428
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:59.160
it. And when I started working
where I am now, there was so

429
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:03.079
there's three units within my like uh
huh, actual unit, and there was

430
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:07.519
a Carmen in one of the other
units, and they were like Carmon whatever

431
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:11.559
initial it wasn't Carmon H. And
I was so not used to it.

432
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.200
And then she changed units, and
then people sometimes we were still writing Carmon

433
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:15.480
H. And I was like,
no, no, no, no,

434
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:19.680
there's no Carmon shere anymore. I'm
just Carmen. And then I made them

435
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:26.519
reprint the because they have the list. I'm a monster. They have a

436
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:30.640
they said, not always pronown a
list of phone numbers for everybody, and

437
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:34.720
then what's the birthdays? And then
somebody had ran Carmon H. And I

438
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.279
was like, no, no,
no, no, there's no more Carmon

439
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:42.240
H. Let's reprint this to just
take Carmen please. Oh they just roll

440
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:47.759
their eyes at me. So,
yeah, he's gonna have the same experience.

441
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:51.960
There's gonna be like Mattel H,
Mattel L, Mattel whatever. It's

442
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:55.079
gonna be funny. I'm curious to
see about Sammy. And like I said

443
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:57.079
earlier, I can't find clear pictures
of what the plaque said. I imagine

444
00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:02.279
it says something about the tragic day
and probably on this day, like on

445
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:06.839
this dangerous road, like these boys
lost their lives, like be careful when

446
00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:08.720
you're dry, or something like yeah, that's what I imagine if anyone is

447
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:11.039
in the area, let me know, I want to see like a clear,

448
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:14.799
clearer thing of this plague. But
yeah, you can go see the

449
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:18.400
moneyming yourself. It's it's there.
Sadly, it is a little tagged up

450
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.519
as things become, you know,
over the years. Yeah yeah. Drivers

451
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.720
that passed by at night claim to
see a couple of boys running across the

452
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.680
streets. Oh my god, and
when they like break they disappear in front

453
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.680
of them before their eyes. And
you know this is right by the monument.

454
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.480
Man is the drivers that are going
too fast and the boys are like,

455
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.240
you better calm your tits. I
wonder you know what there is.

456
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:45.000
There was a comment in one of
the sources that I used that said,

457
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:49.160
like, many believe they're being warned
to slow down by the boys who don't

458
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:55.160
want other people to relive. That
makes sense, to suffer the s Yeah.

459
00:31:55.440 --> 00:32:00.200
Others that have gone during the day
even claim to see the boys crying.

460
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:06.759
Oh the faces and the statues of
the statues like crying scary but sad.

461
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:10.240
At the same time, others claim
to hear screams of children in the

462
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:14.839
area. That's scary. Yes,
yeah, I think I'd rather see the

463
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:16.680
crying statues. Me too, Me
too. I wouldn't want to see the

464
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:20.160
running across the street. Oh no, no, no, no no.

465
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:25.240
Others say that the boys who died
that day are condemned to repeat the accident

466
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:31.519
for eternity. Why picture that.
It's not even that they're physically they're repeating

467
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:36.240
it, but it's like a okay, like a warning, like not a

468
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:39.400
warning, but like you know,
sometimes things happen in the house and it's

469
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:44.960
like a type of hunting that is
like talking about Yeah, yeah, but

470
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:46.920
I don't there's a word for it. There is, Yeah, like a

471
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:53.319
residual Yeah, yeah, you remember
wow a for me? Yeah, but

472
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:58.079
yeah, I almost think that it's
a residual hunting that people are seeing it,

473
00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:00.839
yeah, but that the boys are
not. They're off living their lives

474
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:07.720
in heaven and they're happy afterlife wherever
you know, we go afterwards. Yeah,

475
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:12.359
that's what I hope at least.
Yeah, But many people like will

476
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.200
hear the sounds of a crash when
there's no other cars around. It sounds

477
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:20.599
like a residual haunting whatever it's called, and then hear those screams. So

478
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:24.720
that's what I think. But people
that experienced that haven't actually seen it happening,

479
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:29.279
they just hear it. Yeah,
and then and then obviously the what

480
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:32.920
I guess kind of contradicts that it's
a residual haunting though the running is there

481
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:37.960
people that have seen the boys running
across, so I don't know, very

482
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:42.200
creepy. Every year, on the
day of the accident, there's an homage

483
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.960
to the seven Boys, so people
gather and they're still at least a couple

484
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:49.640
of years ago I found an article. No I think it's like it was

485
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:52.640
like five years old now, there
was a one or two of the survivors,

486
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:57.119
you know, standing up there talking
about the boys, and there's cameras.

487
00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:00.039
I'll find the picture because there is. Yeah, they're still have this

488
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.440
every year, and they partly do
this, at least they say, and

489
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:07.000
hopes that the boys find peace and
move on, but probably also just to

490
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:10.960
commemorate them, especially because the last
article I found there was still a couple

491
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:19.239
of survivors alive and present. So
yeah, that was. And I'll post

492
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.760
pictures because it's it's a strange monuments
to look at. I can't wait to

493
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:29.039
see because I'm a little ominous.
It sounds scary like given this monument itself.

494
00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:31.480
Yeah, it's just like seven heads
there. It's I don't like it.

495
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:37.639
I don't like it or no,
you'll see it's a it's like a

496
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.360
like a okay okay, oh yeah, I described it a little bit.

497
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:44.280
The heads are sticking out. They're
not like, well, I guess a

498
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:49.239
little amount Rushmore style now like maybe
a little bit okay. And then I

499
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.639
have one more just bonus statue that
I wasn't going to include, but I

500
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:53.760
found a last minute because I was
like, you know what, we have

501
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:58.000
a lot of listeners in California.
Let me just see if there's a haunted

502
00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:02.639
statue story in California. And there
is. So in Bakersfield, there's only

503
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:07.719
one roundabout on all the Bakersfield Yeah, Shadow Bakery. Weren't you just there?

504
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:15.519
I just drove by their exactly the
way two and back from lah Yeah,

505
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:20.440
yes, I was there. Yeah. Yeah. But in Bakersfield there's

506
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.280
one roundabout. It's known as the
circle or like I don't know how to

507
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:29.119
pronounce this either car seas circle,
I don't know. It's apparently just known

508
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:31.519
as a circle because there's the only
roundabout in Bakersfield. So if you're in

509
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:35.679
Bakersfield or you've driven through it,
it's the only one you would have seen

510
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:39.280
it. And also there's a big
statue. This roundabout was built in nineteen

511
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:45.119
thirty two and it was part of
Highway ninety nine's construction. And since its

512
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:51.199
construction there's been talk of paranormal activity
there because in the middle of the roundabout

513
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:55.239
there's a big statue of a Franciscan
missionary. Oh, it must be Garsis,

514
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:59.639
because these missionaries are all Spanish.
Spanish, yeah, probably, yeah,

515
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:06.239
so that makes sense. So was
added to the center of the circle

516
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:09.880
in nineteen thirty nine, and after
that that's when the stories began. So

517
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:16.480
drivers report seeing the statue wave its
arm yaikes, very yaike. Get into

518
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:23.400
a car accident after that? Right, well, apparently some wreck victims reported

519
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:29.880
that they heard the statue utter a
prayer right before the car crash. Are

520
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:32.519
you freaking serious? Oh my god? Yeah, like a warning? Processing

521
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:37.599
that insurance claim? Right, well, I heard it pray and do the

522
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:44.360
excuse me? Denied? Claim denied? You were clearly your AFT fault.

523
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:51.199
Yeah, So people think that the
waving or hearing it prey is it's warning

524
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:54.000
you that you're going to get in
a car accident or it's causing it honestly,

525
00:36:54.159 --> 00:37:01.280
look yeah, yeah, because wow, I would crash if I heard

526
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:05.440
that. Yeah, because I would
be startled, because anything startles me.

527
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.760
I could be sitting here really into
whatever I'm doing, and then like someone's

528
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:13.800
like I can't my husband, it's
like Christina, I'm like, oh yeah,

529
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:15.519
yeah no. But the other day
I was driving my car and I

530
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:19.440
continuing like this squeaky noise, and
now I think it's like how I was.

531
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:21.400
I don't know if it's my wheel
or what. I was like,

532
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:23.159
what if there's a mouse in my
car? But how would that even happen?

533
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:28.599
Like I've never even did a mouse
here? Oh my god? And

534
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:34.360
so I almost crashed. Yeah,
if there's drying in my car that I

535
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.159
just I can't drive. I need
to part because I will crash. Don't

536
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:39.800
even get sorry. I one time
there was a sucking b in my car.

537
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:43.760
Wow, I would die. And
I hadn't gone and I saw it

538
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:49.320
before. This is ridiculous, okay, because me and my husband we were

539
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.360
going inside my car and then we
saw the bee and then both of us

540
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:54.079
refusing to go inside the car,
and he wouldn't go and get the bee.

541
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:58.039
And I was like, are you
serious? You know that I'm afraid

542
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:01.800
of bees. I have a phobia
of bees, and he's just regularly scared

543
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:05.800
of bees. It's not a phobia. It's not a phobia. So it's

544
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:07.679
like, Okay, if you don't
have a phobia, then you have to

545
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:09.039
be the brave, winning you'll get
to be. Yeah. And then some

546
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:14.840
guy that was outside the store,
you know the cardboard sign, he used

547
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:16.320
that, and I like him because
I was like, well, I'm not

548
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:19.960
gonna do it, and neither is
Paul. So he went inside of my

549
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:22.920
car and he got to be out. This is hilarious. Wow you tell

550
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:28.000
me this. Oh yeah, So
I'm not surprised by Any's like, thank

551
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:31.880
you sir. Wow. But imagine
if I heard that while I was driving,

552
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:36.920
I wouldn't be here today. Yeah, yeah, I would probably be.

553
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.880
Yeah. This is why I don't
drive to Bakersfield. There's a lot

554
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:45.679
of not because I'm in another state. No, it's because also the father,

555
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:50.480
right. I just remember that.
I was like, the bees,

556
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:53.440
the bees. I know they're dying, but I'm afraid of them. I

557
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:58.280
will I will help them from afar. I will hold them by keeping my

558
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:00.719
distance. Yeah, because if you
get near when you're gonna like swing at

559
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:04.599
it, No, I'll run for
my life. No, you will,

560
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:07.679
you will. We might as well
tell the story already. When we were

561
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.199
kids and we were in the Oakland
Zoo, Carmen and Louise have like ice

562
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:14.760
cream or popsicles or something. I
don't remember. I just remember it melting

563
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:17.280
in my hands as I was frozen
in fear. Yeah, and then they

564
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:22.719
were surrounded by honestly and four bees. Yeah. But in my little kid

565
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:25.760
head, which is how I remember
it now, it was a swarm of

566
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:30.400
bees and you were screaming. You're
screaming, and I think away, Yes,

567
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:34.760
yeah, I ran away. I
was going to save myself and me

568
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.760
and Louise we froze, Yeah,
Carmen and our brother, and we were

569
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:44.679
screaming, frozen from these swarm of
bees. I were in reality probably four

570
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:47.559
bees, yeah, screaming for our
parents. And ever since then, Carmen

571
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:52.559
has been very, very afraid of
bees. Remember as teens, we went

572
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:54.000
to I don't know what lake,
and I didn't get out of the car

573
00:39:54.000 --> 00:40:00.239
because there was bees. Yes,
I remember, I just left me in

574
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.880
my in the fucking car and they
went to enjoy whatever time with you guys,

575
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.519
and I was just there in the
car we left. Yeah. Yeah,

576
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:09.079
well this and this just shows that
it's a real fear of beace.

577
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:15.320
It's not like a normal fear.
Yeah, but yeah, those have been

578
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.840
the hunted statues, you know,
a little bonus when in California. But

579
00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:23.440
the other one in a Chiawa,
Mexico. And there's more a hunter statues

580
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:28.400
that we've already shared throughout the podcast. There's one in Well, no,

581
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:30.079
this isn't a statue. It's more
like a tombstone. I think it kind

582
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:35.000
of counts as a statue. But
there's one in Halisco. It's not it's

583
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.960
another town in Jalisco. I forgot
the name of it. But this grave,

584
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:43.440
like this is a very homophobic legend, I think. But you've already

585
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:45.920
shared it. I don't remember.
I don't remember if I shared it on

586
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:47.960
TikTok or on the podcast, but
I was just a very short version of

587
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:52.360
it. And I want to say, it's say Jalisco, and none of

588
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:55.039
this sounds familiar. I don't think
you shared it on the podcast. Ah,

589
00:40:55.079 --> 00:41:00.960
there we go. It's even turned
into a movie. In a movie

590
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:04.960
from the nineteen eighties with Antonio hi, lad. But according to a legend,

591
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:08.360
the there's this statue and well,
this cemetery is haunted, right,

592
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:14.199
and they would say that if you
went around a certain time, this statue

593
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:16.360
would tell you where the treasure was, but you had to do it a

594
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:22.119
favor, and it was a sexual
favor and the man. So a man

595
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.199
was like tricked by his friend to
go to the cemetery because he owned the

596
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:27.559
money, and he's like, you
need to get this treasure because like you

597
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:30.039
owe me money. He needs to
give me my money, and so he

598
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:32.800
goes and then it's like midnight or
whatever, and he's like, all right,

599
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:36.320
well, my friend told me that
I had to come here at midnight

600
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:38.360
and talk to you because it's like
a statue of a ghost. And then

601
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:43.800
the man's spirit is said to also
manifest where the statue is at, and

602
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:47.519
so then he tells this statue that
he's here for the treasure, and then

603
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:50.800
the ghost is like, oh,
yes, it's right over there, but

604
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:52.360
first you have to like, I
don't know, I'll tickle my butt or

605
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:55.679
something like. It doesn't actually say
tickle my butt, but it's like a

606
00:41:55.719 --> 00:42:01.159
sexual favor. And then and then
ever the guy runs out of the cemetery

607
00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:05.639
and then never since. Then he
holds his hands behind his butt because he's

608
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:08.320
like anyone anything in my butt.
I'm feel scared, Like, oh my

609
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:14.960
god, it's a ridiculous legend,
Like that's that's the legend. Are you

610
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.320
serious? Yeah, that's a very
short version of it. It's it's I'm

611
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:24.400
like, why does this even exist? Wow? Yeah, I'm and not

612
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:31.000
shocked weirded out by that story.
Yeah, it's strange. Yeah, that's

613
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:34.880
weird. Anyway, this brings us
to the end of the episode. Do

614
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:38.639
you have any spooky recommendations? I
think the only one I have is and

615
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:44.320
you said it. I think lots
episode that there's a spooky ish episode of

616
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:49.159
this fool that was funny. And
I just finished this season earlier today.

617
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:52.039
Oh you did? Yeah? Did
you like it? I did? I

618
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:54.519
did. It was pretty funny.
I was. I was talking to her

619
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:58.639
brother about it and he was like, I liked it. I loved it.

620
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:01.480
But I hate Julio. Oh my
god. Well, I don't think

621
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:05.960
he's supposed to be likable. I
think he's supposed to be like, like

622
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:09.840
a nice guy. Yeah, but
he's terrible really yeah, yeah, and

623
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:14.000
they really and it's like how we
talked about before how we like shows where

624
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:19.119
everyone's horrible to each other. Yeah, and he's those truly, Yeah,

625
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.000
he really is. And we both
Louise and me both agree that Louise is

626
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:25.079
our favorite character. Yeah, he's
my favorite. Yeah, not to that

627
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:32.360
minister Pain. He's also horrible,
Yeah he is. Everyone is equally horrible.

628
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:35.880
Yeah, they're all. I feel
like Louise is the least horrible.

629
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:38.400
Actually, actually I do. He's
he may be the convicted felon, but

630
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:42.519
he is the least horrible. And
that's a real lesson of the show.

631
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:45.800
I was gonna say that has to
be like the purpose. Yeah, I'm

632
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:50.039
sure, I'm sure. Yeah.
You know he's called funny though he like

633
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:52.760
goes on and on, like like
when he was recording the video, Wait

634
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:54.719
did you finish it? Yes,
I've watched the whole thing, and I

635
00:43:54.800 --> 00:44:00.920
like a day oh where he was
recording the video to propose to Ruby,

636
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:04.119
and then he's like, oh,
then we might dine in a plane crash

637
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:07.320
and our our grandkids will be like
and would be like, it's okay,

638
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:12.400
we're in heaven. It's tied up
here, but we missed you guys.

639
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.679
That's like, why would you go
on that. Yeah, like rambling,

640
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:21.519
it's hilarious. My favorite, though, is from last season when he dressed

641
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:23.840
up as that dinosaur in the group
and everyone's like, you need to be

642
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:30.119
serious, and they realized that the
metaphor of Austin Powers was actually serious.

643
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:34.239
Yeah, yeah, that was funny. It's a good show. If anyone

644
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:37.159
has not watched it, like,
what are you doing? Yeah, I've

645
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:39.719
been working left and right to everybody. Me too, me too. I've

646
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:44.000
already mentioned it, like you said, yeah, like two episodes ago,

647
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:47.920
and yeah, I don't think I've
watched anything else. I've been watching Mergers

648
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:53.840
in the Building and it's spooky in
the sense of crime. Yeah, and

649
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:58.480
which we also enjoy here. Yeah, I'm enjoyed the wrong word. But

650
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:04.679
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, yeah,

651
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:07.239
I haven't really watched anything spooky or
okay, yeah, well, since you

652
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:10.679
brought up a crime, there is
a documentary on a loose del Mundo,

653
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:15.880
which you me and you did an
episode on here, so it's I think,

654
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:17.440
God, I don't remember if it's
a one full documentary, if it

655
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:22.159
has episodes. I'm pretty sure it's
like four or six episode thing. I

656
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:24.039
could be wrong. It's on HBO
it's on Max. My bad, it's

657
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:28.800
not HBO Max anymore. But I've
watched a couple episodes of it. Horrible,

658
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:31.599
horrible stuff, but very informative.
Damn, you still need to share

659
00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:34.840
your password with me, by the
way, Oh my god, I thought

660
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:37.679
I already did that. You did
by lost it somewhere like it's too far

661
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:39.079
back in the messages to scroll.
Oh my god. Okay, Welson,

662
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:43.960
it's cool, thank you. Yeah. I think that's the only thing I've

663
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:46.679
been watching. I have been meaning
to check this podcast out for so long,

664
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:51.239
and I finally did it, but
I don't. So I listened to

665
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:55.840
It's Snap Judge, Snap presents Spooked
or something held on It's oh no,

666
00:45:55.880 --> 00:46:00.599
I can't, my phone's over there. This is just my case. Wow,

667
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:05.559
let me see Spooked by Snap Judgment. I think it's very popular.

668
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:09.280
People go on and tell their their
own scary stories. There's a host that

669
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:13.480
is like presenting a story, right, and so I listened to one called

670
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:16.320
Las Muniekas, because it's a guy, you know, telling his story in

671
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:21.320
Spanish. However, I do not
like when someone is telling their story in

672
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:23.920
Spanish, and so they start their
story and then like fades out and then

673
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:28.039
there's a voice actor that comes in
and says it in English. But then

674
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:30.800
they get that guy in accent.
Oh, And I'm like, I get

675
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:35.239
it. I don't know. I
just like I know it's I know why

676
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:38.360
it's done. I get it.
It's it's an English audience. But if

677
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:44.360
you're translating already, like we know
the accent is forced, right, we

678
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:47.199
know it's you can or do you
think it's not? Maybe it's not,

679
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:50.679
but it feels like it. But
I could be wrong. I could be

680
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:53.079
wrong. It sounds just to me. When I was reading for a studies

681
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:57.719
unknown, I was reading that Coca
Cola book, and whenever the author would

682
00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:02.480
read quotes that were said by the
union workers, which of course were either

683
00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:07.719
Colombian or was the other place the
stories took place, they were Central America.

684
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:13.440
Yeah, he would use an accent, but I knew the author,

685
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:19.039
the voice author or whatever they're called, voice actor narrator spoke English normally,

686
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:21.840
and then he would put on this
accent, and I'm like, okay,

687
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:23.480
you don't have to put on this
accent, Like I don't like this.

688
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:28.679
Yeah, I found that I very
much prefer Like there's a podcast called True

689
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:31.320
scary story, which I do story
editing for, and then someone else comes

690
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:36.400
in and does a sound design that's
by Edwyn on Scary FM. That's and

691
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:38.480
so it's people telling their own scary
story. And then he has a Spanish

692
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:45.280
version of it called just Realist or
something like that, and it's just someone

693
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:46.920
just telling their full story in Spanish. And I'm like, I prefer that

694
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:51.880
because there's no one coming in and
speaking over them, where you can hear

695
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:55.800
the Spanish very very very quietly in
the background and someone speaking over them.

696
00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:00.199
I think I just would rather hear
the full story in that person's language if

697
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:04.679
I can. Yeah, but it's
not. It's not always possible, you

698
00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:08.239
know, no exactly, Like I
get it that podcast Spooked has a like

699
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:13.360
main mainly English speaking audience, but
because I know Spanish, I can hear

700
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:16.199
the background, and I think it's
just distracting to me because when that processing

701
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:21.559
both want yeah, because you know
both languages. Yeah, documentaries do it

702
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:23.880
all the time too, they do, yeah, and it is still distracting.

703
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:29.280
I'm just like, so, so, yeah, but the episode is

704
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:30.639
good. I mean, people,
it's people telling their own scary stories.

705
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:35.599
It's always good. Another one I've
been meaning to check out is Jim Harold's

706
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:38.159
Campfire Stories. Oh, I always
hear them talk about it on and that's

707
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:40.679
why we drink, but I've never
checked it out. Yeah, I think

708
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:44.880
it's the same vibe. But I
think people call in to tell us stories.

709
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:47.280
I don't think they're prerecorded and then
like edited into it. I think

710
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:51.960
people are just calling in telling it. So I want to check that out.

711
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:53.039
I've been meaning to if I mean, if anyone has like a really

712
00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:55.519
good episode that are like, if
you're gonna listen to it, listen to

713
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:59.519
this episode, let me know,
let me know. But yeah, I

714
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:01.920
guess that's to the end of the
episode. Now officially, before we go,

715
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:07.159
do you have anything to plug Carmen, You know I do, yes,

716
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:12.400
So, Christina and I have two
other podcasts. If you are into

717
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:17.159
Latin American history, then you can
check out Estonia's Unknown And if you are

718
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:22.880
into novelas and talking shit, cheose
me out whatever you know, then check

719
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:27.800
out Yes, that's it. You
can also check both of us out with

720
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:31.320
MGI on the book Club episodes.
The next book Club book is Silver Nitrate

721
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:36.719
by Sylvia Moreno Garcia. I'm winning
on my copy to arrive, need to

722
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:39.000
buy it? Oh, so o, hey, use our link okay,

723
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:44.639
okay, use my bookshop links.
So I get some coins, okay,

724
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:47.320
thank you. And yeah I wanted
on the kindle. Oh you want it

725
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:51.119
on the kindle? Never mind,
then maybe i'll see Oh I wanted to

726
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:53.639
do the actual copy this time,
or you're not gonna do the audiobook?

727
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:57.519
No, we'll see how it goes
with an actual book. I have meds

728
00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:00.559
now, I think I can read
finally anyway, before I go out on

729
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:05.440
and on about that. Yes,
so check that out if you haven't,

730
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.880
because it's our next read. Stay
a Spooky, and if you hear a

731
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:13.440
statue speak while you're driving, just
you know, like keep driving, don't

732
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:17.039
get in a car accident like we
would, Stay a Spooky. We'll catch

733
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:19.440
everyone next time. Bye bye