Sept. 29, 2023

Haunted Prisons in Latin America

Haunted Prisons in Latin America

Prisons seem to hold a lot of dark energy, especially older ones. It's no surprise that they are some of the most haunted places. On this episode, Cristina talks about ex penal Garcia Moreno, in Quito, Ecuador and the prison at the end of the world in...

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Prisons seem to hold a lot of dark energy, especially older ones. It's no surprise that they are some of the most haunted places. On this episode, Cristina talks about ex penal Garcia Moreno, in Quito, Ecuador and the prison at the end of the world in Ushuaia. MJ shares the story of Lecumberri prison in Cuidad Mexico. First, they share a listener story.

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Hi everyone, This is Christina and
this is MJA. Why was it about

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about to like I was thinking and
this is MJ, because you were about

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to say it, and then I
almost said it and I was like,

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when am I doing it? Oh
my god? Wow. Yes, it's

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going to be that kind of recording, just so everyone knows the vibes.

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And this is Spooky Tales, the
episode for All Things as Spooky, and

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today we are talking about haunted jails, prisons, places where you're trapped and

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you can't leave because you committed a
crime. That is it really a crime?

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I don't know. It depends,
yes, what we're talking about.

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All right, So before we get
to the stories that we found that I

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have to do with haunted prisons,
I do have a listeners story to share.

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And if you have a story that
you want to send us to the

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podcast, you can email at Spooky
Toes at gmail dot com. You can

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DMA on any of the socials.
You can submit it on Discord. You

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can send us a voice note and
then attach that to an email. Actually

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we have one that we haven't listened
to. I just didn't have it ready

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for today. Yeah, there's a
lot of options to send us your stories.

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Send them. We love receiving them. This one was sent to via

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email. Hello a spooky. I
was listening to the Kwahuila UFO episode just

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now and had to stop and reach
out once I heard the part describing the

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white transparent being and to tell you
my eyes wide and so big. So

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as you know, the meteor shower
had just occurred on the night of Saturday,

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August twelve, and I had to
and I had wanted to catch some

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of it, so me and my
guy had decided to hang out in the

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backyard for a bit and see if
we were able to catch a glimpse.

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After a few minutes, the first
shooting starter was right and moving fast.

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Excited, I told my guy,
but by the time he looked in that

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direction, he missed it. Another
one passed and it was more faint,

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barely visible in another direction, and
again he was too busy talking and missed

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that one too. Oh my god, if you're stargazing, you got a

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star gaze. Okay, it's not
time to chat and like she's mad,

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it's time to just stare at the
start. Whenever a stargaze, I feel

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like I'm falling, though, Does
anybody else get that? Sensation. I

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will be honest, I physically can't
do it. I sit there and start

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falling asleep if I'm just staring up
at the sky, So I would be

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the one to miss everything because I
would be busy talking. I was determined

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to keep him focused and hoping he'd
see another star. A few minutes later,

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we had both caught a glimpse of
quick flashes out of the corners of

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our eyes moments apart, but in
different areas of the sky. I had

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one of my earbuds and mentioned that
I was getting interference slightly and told him

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maybe because of the shower. I
don't know. I'm not a scientist,

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L O L. By this time, mosquitoes were feasting on her flesh,

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and we were debating whether to head
inside or stayed longer. I had casually

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asked him if he ever just talks
to the universe. He asked, like,

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what talked to God? And I
said, no, like out into

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the world, just asking it to
do something like a wind to blow,

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or trees to move, that kind
of thing. He laughed, and we

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just kept talking. Eventually decided to
head back inside the house. We turned

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towards the gate and had stopped because
we seen something in the sky flying floating

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above us. To me, it
looked like a very bright white bird type

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figure slightly transparent. To him,
it looked more like a white, transparent

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jellyfish figure. Keep in mind,
it was very dark outside after midnight.

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Birds aren't normally active for that late
at night, and the ones in our

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areas do not look like anything like
what we had seen. What was clear

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is that the bright color was a
contrast against the dark sky, and it

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appeared out of nowhere, flew over
us, and then just faded out like

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it was saying hey bit, like
it was saying, hey bish, you

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wanted to fuck around and find out
moment here you go. Universe answered,

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we weren't scared, but more in
awe and to be honest, tripping the

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fuck out trying to make sense as
to what it was. All we knew

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is that it wasn't normal, and
just the combo the meteor shower occurring the

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timing of me asking Universe questions,
I don't know, I've kind of fallen

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into a rabbit hole these past two
days. And hearing that part of your

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podcast mentioning the entity being white and
transparent was just another dot for me to

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connect. I listened to it this
morning and immediately started writing this. First

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of all, I love this energy
like I haven't done now. I love

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that just letting me know what we
experienced. I've had other things happen different

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from this little occurrence, but at
least he also seen it. Although we

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can't agree on what we saw since
it looked very different to each of us,

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we're still in agreement that it was
something. Sorry from the ramble,

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It's just how my brain works.
Hopefully you were able to follow along.

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Love you guys and your content.
Giggles said question everything. I'm here for

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it all five stars all day.
Fuck that one star rating. I'll be

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in contact with more experiences which are
more detailed. This one was just short

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enough to quickly share. Have an
amazing day, Yoli. That story was

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so funny though the way there was
written. I loved it. I last

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I was. I was like in
trance, like what was that glowing thing?

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Like wow? And there's so many
like uh like stories like that too.

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Yeah. A lot of people say, like these weird, like translucent

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things in the sky that almost looked
like something like animals. I don't know

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if you hurt that really yes,
they're like they're like people describe them like

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flying jellyfish. Oh my god,
well he saw a jellyfish and she saw

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like a what is it like a
person? Almost Now I have to yeah,

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but do you hear that too?
But it's like, hold on,

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now, I have to find it. Let me, let me, let

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me search for it. Yeah.
People see like these like almost like atmospheric

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creatures in the sky or what is
described as it, And I'm trying to

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find it because I hear about it
all the time, like with UFO sightings.

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But it's like a jellyfish or something
akin to a sea creature that looks

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like a jellyfish, but instead of
in the water, it's in the sky

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flying. Wow. Uh there's a
few sightings like that. Damn okay,

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And that's why people are like their
theories that there's actually animals in our atmosphere

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that we don't know about for sure. Wow. The is yeah. I'd

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be dripped off though too. Same
same Now why is Kobe barking a what

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a mess today? I also thought
we had eggs so I could just make

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spam rice and eggs because that takes
like fifteen minutes. But no, I

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don't have any good. It is
delicious. It's my favorite thing to make

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when I'm in a rush and I'm
like, add some seed it, yes,

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I oh seaweed. Yeah, it's
amazing. I love it so much,

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like spam is SUBI. Yeah,
I'd love spam SUBI. I don't

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understand the hate hatred toward spam by
something either. I'm like, spam is

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beautiful, spam is life. Like, Yes, it's so good. I

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don't have it very often because like
it costs like an arm and a leg.

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Well it's a spam. I could
cook it here, but I'm too

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lazy. I order it from the
Hawaiian restaurant. Yes, yes, And

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I don't have spam musubi often either. But I do have spam because but

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I'm not gonna make spamous myself.
Yeah. No, I'm like, I

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don't have a bam boo roll up
thing or the little boxes for it.

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It's but I order it and when
I it's like kind of pricey tube and

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I'm like, m it's a treat, but now I want them. Yeah,

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oh it's so good. I love
it. I forgot I haven't gone

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grocery shopping, but you know what
the past like four days I've been eating

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so good. I'm proud of myself. It's hard to stay on like clean,

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yeah it is. I totally ate
bad during my daughter's birthday. It's

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like it's just you know, and
they don't count. They don't the calories

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don't count. No. Uh potato
tacos, Oh my god, I love

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Was it like like potato or was
it like no? It was like beautiful?

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I love it. And then and
then with with the the well,

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we had a boyo first, but
then we switched to let us because boy

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always hurts my stomach. And then
we eat like drown them in salsa.

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Anyway, I don't know how we
started talking about this, but yeah,

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let's haunted prisons. That's what we're
talking about today. I think we each

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have like a couple prisons, right, yes, I have now yeah okay,

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oh, hey, me too,
and they're short. My mine as

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short. Okay. Let you want
to do like one in one just little

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switch us back and forth. Good, Okay, So my first one is

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one of the most haunted prisons in
Equavaud, probably not all of Latin America,

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because I think every country has a
haunted prison, maybe every state.

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I don't know. There's a lot
of Probably. I feel like prisons are

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one of those places where you're going
to find like a lot of happens because

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like inmates, I mean they they
go after staff and they go after other

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inmates. It's never one like fully
safe. Yeah exactly. It's like I

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think it's hospitals or like old sanatoriums
that were super fucked up, like the

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same kind of energy where they're just
yeah, they're gonna be hunted for sure.

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So this is a expal. This
is a former prison turned museum in

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Quito, Ecuador, and it's very
old. The prison was inaugurated in eighteen

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seventy five and then closed in twenty
fourteen, so there were still prisoners there

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in twenty fourteen, which to me
is like recent. I feel like two

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years ago. Yeah, it was
like, oh my god, yeah it

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was like nine years ago. Yeah, almost threw up a little bit.

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That's that's age. It feels like
it's not long ago, but you look

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at the number and you're like,
oh my god, what the fuck it's

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almost ten years. Yeah, Because
I'm like I was thinking, like I

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was looking back at my kids pictures
and I was like, it's twenty and

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eighteen. I was like that was
like two years ago. And then I

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entered the math and I was like, no, it wasn't. Yeah,

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I'm the same way. I'm like, oh, two eighteen wasn't that long

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ago? And then I look at
my town and he's like, oh shit,

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he's like not a toddler, he's
a kid now, he's almost five.

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So yeah, obviously it's been more
than two years. Sammy's too,

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like there's no way. But man, having no sense of time, no

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time perception either, I think it's
like last year. And then you're like,

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wait, it's like six years ago. What wait, it's been ten

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years to wait my high school was
thirteen years ago? What wait? No,

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my high graduation That's what I meant. You guys already had your reunion.

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Nobody went to hours. They made
a Facebook group to planet. So

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I graduated in twoy ten. So
you add ten years and you're at twenty

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twenty, like the mid pandemic.
Nobody went. There was no way,

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and I graduated two thousand and nine. I think it was like obviously the

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year before years, but nobody fucking
went. I'm like, what I see

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everybody outside of like, uh the
high school now, like and you see

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everybody's updates like on Facebook or socials, so it's like, why am I

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going to see you? Yeah,
especially if you're still like local in the

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area, like there's people you still
see anyway. I don't. But I

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was like, I'm not gonna go
all the way just for this anyway.

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But then it was a pandemic and
I was like, I'm not gonna go

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anyway. And then the two of
you, that's yeah, right, I'm

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going paying like one hundred dollars to
Yeah, I'd rather go to like a

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restaurant I like and see the two
friends. Yeah. So yeah, close

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to the twenty fourteen way too reason. And this is what is known as

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a pen optical prison. And when
I first saw the word and I was

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like, what is this. I've
never seen this word. Yes, what

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is that? I don't know this. So it's a circular prison. Oh

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what sells arranged around a central well
from which prisoners could at all times be

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observed. And then when I looked
at the word again, I was like,

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oh, yeah, that makes sense
because pan, like you can pan

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when you kind a picture, you
move it, you know, from in

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all directions. And then optical like
yeah, you know, I was like,

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I guess I could have used my
context whatever. But yeah, so

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they made it's like the walls are
around so that they could look down on

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their prisoners basically, and apparently some
of the worst prisoners in Ecuadorian history have

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stayed here. So yeah. And
the prison was named after the former president

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Gabriel Garcia, and he was president
at the time. He's the one who

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ordered the construction of the prison.
He was inspired by La Sente prison in

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Paris. I can't say, I
can't see French words and not do a

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fake French. Actually, it's like
a mandatory. It's pretty sure it's sacrilege

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if you don't do it. Yeah, yeah, And that's one of the

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most famous prisons in Paris, apart
from like the Bastille or I don't know,

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I don't know how to say that
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stop. So, and this isn't
the first time that we hear of,

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you know, presidents in Latin America
wanting to base their buildings on European buildings,

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just like the other place we talked
about. That place was fucked up,

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the La Casta, the Castagne.
I don't remember, but yeah,

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I know it's something like that.
Yeah, say, the same thing.

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They were inspired by Europe here inspired
by the most stupid things. Yeah.

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And it's rumored that he wanted the
doors, the cells, the walls,

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everything black so that the prisoners went
and see any type of lights, any

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type of bright color, anything that
could make them happy, which is messed

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up. Each cell is almost twenty
two squared feet and they were made to

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hold two people per cell, but
of course that didn't happen. Each cell

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had fifteen to twenty prisoners living inside
of it, which is a lot.

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The prison is sectioned in two five, and I think that's like because the

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scent. Yeah, the sanatorium had
the same thing where it said it was

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sectioned into But I'm like, I've
never heard that in English. But I

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mean our places being sectioned into pavilions. I always yeah, I always thought

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of put a pavilion like a I
don't even know. Let me see what

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comes to mind when I hear the
word pavilion. Oh my god, hold

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on, I can't die and I
can't spell. Apparently, pavelion in the

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summer house or other decorative building used
as a shelter in a park or a

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large garden you. Okay, this
makes sense. I was gonna say,

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I think of like when you go
to the park, when you have a

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party at the park and there's a
thing covering, That's what I think of.

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Yeah, so that's that's pretty much
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guessing like when they mean pavilions,
it's sorted into like these little rooms or

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like house like rooms. Oh yeah, yeah, or like a maybe like

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a tower, Tom could Yeah,
it could be a guard. It's just

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tower. It's like a little place
where they work at. Yeah. That

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is also a the little the guard
pavilion is shown as being like a tower

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to overwatch. This makes sense.
Yeah, so yeah, I mean there's

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just the different different areas I guess. So each pavilion had different types of

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criminals. So Pavilion A that's where
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the bankers, important people that committed
crimes or high profile people, but

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that didn't like murder anyone, Okay, it was like side Yeah, Pavilion

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C, D and E held the
minor crimes, so like drug possessions,

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whatnots, things like that. Pavilion
B that was the most dangerous one.

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This is where the violent criminals were
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other violent crimes, and Pavilion B
contained one hundred and fourteen cells. Each

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cell had fifteen to twenty men per
cell. And so some of the people

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that were in Pavilion B. Have
you heard of a monstro Los Angeles,

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the Monster of the Andes? I
have not. What is that? Oh?

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So this is a serial killer,
perhaps one of the most prolific ones

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in La in America. His name
was Pedro Alonso Lopez. Actually, I

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don't know if he's stole a live
because I don't care about him. And

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he raped and murdered at least three
hundred girls in Colombia, Peru, Oh

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my god, Yeah, and Ecuador
a lot. I believe. I believe

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Lenanias has an episode on them,
if anyone wants to listen to it.

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I don't know that I'll ever cover
anything like that heavy crimes. Another one

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is Daniel Camargo. He's another serial
killer that was in Pavilion B. He

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raped and killed at least seventy women
in Ecuador. Wow. And he was

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actually killed by another prisoner when he
was in Pavilion by Hiovanni ar Cecio no

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Guerra Haramo. Oh my god,
name very long. Yes, he he

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decapitated Daniel Camargo, That's how he
killed him. And then he cut off

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Daniel Camargo's ear and then wore it
as a trophy for a year. Was

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so out of like left field.
Yeah, that's took, that's a turn.

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Another famous criminal and Pavilion B was
Dante Crino and he was a scammer.

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Apparently at some point he sold a
whole street in Gai and it was

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not his street to sell, Like, how the hell do you sell a

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street to someone? And then he
escaped prison three times, oh my god,

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one time dressed as a nun.
So maybe a good case to cover

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in the future if we want to, you know, to dip our toes

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back into a true crime. And
it's just so like random, yeah,

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as a nun. The mention of
the prison escape reminds me of the guy

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that just recently escaped and he was
just caught. Just see that video.

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Oh yeah, and I heard that
there was another one another. Oh god,

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it's shipped together from the same prison. Yeah, I don't know,

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from the same prisons from the same
state though, Oh damn. Yeah.

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The way that guy escaped was wild. He like literally just climbed Wait he

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did such a heinous crime? Did
he? I didn't look at it?

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Murdered his girlfriend in front of her
children. Wow, While I'm glad he

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got And then the whole his whole
community was trying to like help him cover

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it up. I guess what,
like the like you know, like the

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peoples and his people in his life. Yeah, the people in his life,

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and then like also I think people
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in. Oh, but how he
escaped was fucking wild. Yeah, this

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is this is the one that just
like climbed up like Spider Man. Yeah,

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yeah, wild, absolutely wild.
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doing that. And there's another cell in

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Pavilion B. This never belonged to
a well known murderer that like the other

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people that I mentioned, but it's
one of the most terrifying. This cell

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is known as La Cella Lucifed Lucifer
cell. I'm here for it me too.

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This cell is on the top floor
of Pavilion B. It's a dark

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cell with only a tiny window.
Prisoners that were released later stated that apparently

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people used to perform satanic rituals in
that cell. At some point, prisoners

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used whigiboards there, like I don't
know if they had like makeshift whigeboards that

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they made themselves or what. On
a separate occasion, five prisoners were found

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all all shaking on the floor with
foam coming out of their mouths. Those

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same five prisoners later claimed that they
saw the Devil himself inside the cell,

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which I mean, yeah, I
would immediately start throwing up. Its terrifying.

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The prison is now a museum and
so there's no areas that are really

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restricted to visitors. They can go
wherever, but still people avoid the Devil's

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cell and people are trying to make
it up there get sick on the No

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one makes it to the cell.
Apparently, people get nauseous, start feeling

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sick, and a lot of people
have like started to uncontrollably vomit on their

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way to the cell, like they
can't just can't enter the cell. That's

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so weird, very creepy. And
of course the cell is not the only

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thing that's haunted. The whole prison
gives off bad vibes. People that visit

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claim to that it feels like time
just stops once they enter. Others have

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said that it feels like they're entering
purgatory, like, oh, this is

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literally hell, and everything is still
in tact from when it was a prison.

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Like they moved nothing. So I
could imagine that even if you are

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like closed off to the paranormal,
you would go in there and still feel

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like, oh, this is weird
because you're like stepping back into time.

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Basically, they moved nothing, Like
it looks the same. They're just like

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they're just gonna keep it. Yeah, Okay. Then there's been paranormal investigators

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that visit the prison, and a
lot have claimed to see like shadows at

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the out of the corner of their
eyes, cell doors that open and close

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on their own, and disembodied screams
m hm. And I was I started

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to watch a whole video of like
you know, the Urban Explorers, like

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the but the ones in Spanish.
There's a couple that have been to the

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prison, and I started to watch
videos and then I forgot to finish them.

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So I don't know if they have
good stories from the prison. I

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don't know how people do that,
Like even if it's I'd feel like I

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always I'll be in danger because like
a lot of them have like so much

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stuff like asbestos and all that crap. Like, listen, even if it's

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not haunted, that asbestos is terrifying
enough, Yeah for sure, all right,

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So this next jail is from our
prison is from Mexico, and it's

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Mexico's Black Palace, which I don't
think we've covered. I hope not,

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because then would no we have it. I looked at your notes to it.

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Okay. It's also known as Palacio
LUCUMBERI. Opened in the year nineteen

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hundred as a prison. This prison
had the reputation of being one of the

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harshest environments at the time in the
America's trigger warning for dark themes. So

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corruption was rampant at the time and
those who ran the building had no problem

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in prisoning innocent people and having political
prisoners. The next seventy six years,

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this Black Palace saw many dark things. People died here from illness, murder,

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and suicide. All the dark history
of this prison is believed to be

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the reason why it's so haunted.
One of the most common report is screams

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that are described as people in pain
or being tortured. While this is terrifying,

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there is an inmate who still appears
Doncinto is seen at night walking the

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cell blocks of the Black Palace.
He is said to repeat the same phrase

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over and over again again oddly oddly
enough, it starts with again, Amilia

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didn't come. Legend says that Hacintho
was in love with a woman named Amelia.

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Amelia, however, betrayed him.
She cheated on him, and then

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framed him for murder. He didn't
do even through all the betrayal, he

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loved her, and he loved her
so much he still searched for her in

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the afterlife. Oh that's so sad. And another version of the story,

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don Jacinto is not an inmate but
a janitor. And just like the first

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story, don Jacinto still waits for
a million. And that is the prison

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and it's in Mexico City, I
believe. Oh okay, it's no longer

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in service, but people can go
there and people inside. Yeah, is

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it a museum. I don't think
it is, but let me tell check,

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because I feel like sometimes it's like
one of those places that you could

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just be like, what's up.
Oh it is it is a museum,

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but the entry is free. Oh
that's cool. Yeah, so it is

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a museum, like you don't got
to pay anything. You just go there.

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And it looks pretty like well kept. I think I sent you the

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link. But looks pretty well kept, looks very clean, very pretty.

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Oh. So my next one is
last. This is a prison in Argentina.

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So it's it's called La cah Okay. It opened in nineteen o four

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and was located in Usai woo oo
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I can't pronounce it. The jail
was also called last. I said

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it was isolated from the rest of
the country because it's stood on an island

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on the most southern part of Argentina. Apparently now to resort town. Oh,

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people go to high glaciers ski walk
with penguins. Yeah, this sounds

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this sounds like it's an Antarctica,
North South America, the North Pole,

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that's where they're going. I think
they have one of the few non Arctic

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penguins. I could be wrong,
though. Oh, but I'm not entirely

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sure, because where's the Argentina.
Yeah, it says it's pretty cold over

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there, but not I don't think
answered, But I don't know. I'm

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not entirely sure South American penguins.
Let's see South American penguin. Oh,

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there are several penguins, Humble penguin, King penguin, Southern rock copper.

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Oh my god, this one's so
cute. Just has like a little bushy

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a bushy hair on top. And
here, let me send you the picture

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so you can see this this little
cutie. Look at this little penguin.

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Oh my god, that's so adorable. So yeah, apparently you can walk

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with penguin's here now, but not
when it was a prison. What's that?

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Poor prisoners? So yeah, right, they didn't get to do this.

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So at one point there was like
no touristy town obviously, and this

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prison was built by the prisoners,
and it's The prison itself was mostly used

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as a high security prison where officials
would house repeat offenders, high level criminals,

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and political detainees. The climbing on
the island is considered to be subpolar

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oceanic. Okay, this makes sense
now, which means that rain and snow

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are common and temperatures range from the
low thirties to upper forties. That's cold

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all the time, year round.
Apparently, very often, the cold temperatures

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actually helped keep the prison secure,
since many prisoners who tried to escape would

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realize that the odds were against them
and they were better off going back to

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the prison than freezing to death.
The climbing on the island was so harsh

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that many called it the Argentine Siberia
or the cursed Land. I can see

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this now, I can see why
prisoners usually arrived on the island by boat

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with shackles around their ankles, and
their experience did not get any better from

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there. Their new home consisted of
five main blocks, with two floors in

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each block. The cell has stone
walls and floors that were about four square

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meters. Not much sun made it
through the cell walls, and it was

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00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.720
worse because the sun was only up
for a few hours a day during the

388
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:27.160
winter, and it's made for long
and cold nights, and especially because the

389
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:33.359
windows didn't close. Oh that's terrible. That is torture, literal torture.

390
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:36.119
Oh my god. Yeah, I
feel like that's like, I understand they're

391
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:41.039
in prison, but that's like inhumane
to do that exactly, regardless of their

392
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.359
crimes. Like, yeah, seriously, and if you were one of the

393
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:49.279
unlucky ones that was sent to this
prison and it was over capacity, you

394
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:55.400
had to share that tiny, tiny
sail with two other inmates, which is

395
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:59.799
terrible. Or you had to sleep
in horse stables that were turned into make

396
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:05.920
sure shift stills, so outside what
the fuck? Yeah, or people,

397
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:10.720
oh my god, it's horrible.
Prisoners were put to work here and then

398
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:16.000
a very like carpentry, mechanics,
printing, shoemaking, But prisoners also took

399
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:21.240
public works for the city and were
responsible for building the city streets, bridges,

400
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:27.240
and first train systems. Prisoners were
also in charge of cutting wood for

401
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:30.319
the city for the residents to use, and they didn't get to use it

402
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:36.799
themselves. Ever, it's terrible.
Yeah, this prison was the driving force

403
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.640
behind the city's economy. And they're
still like that. You can't have wood,

404
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:43.960
sorry, we can't make fire,
and you don't get you don't get

405
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:49.079
to be warm ever, warmth,
forget it. It doesn't exist for you

406
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.079
anymore. But the hard labor was
not the toughest part of the day,

407
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:59.440
apparently, because prisoners were also tortured
and beaten by cards. So there was

408
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.240
two hundred fit the guards that worked
there and patrolling the grounds and they just

409
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:08.799
when they were bored. Their fun
was like torturing the prisoners yeah. But

410
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:15.359
during the governments of Josef feliks Uriburu
and Augustine Pedro Justo, the prison director

411
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:23.039
was Adolfo set Navas, and he
had been accused of torturing inmates on several

412
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:29.039
occasions. But I don't know if
anything was done, probably not, Yeah,

413
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:34.039
I doubt it. And it said
that residents of the city also hurt,

414
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:37.799
screams and cries for help from the
prison when it was still open,

415
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:45.039
and the jail closed on March twenty
first, nineteen forty seven because of humanitarian

416
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:52.279
reasons. But when people go to
the prison now because it's a museum,

417
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:57.160
all these prisons are museums now apparently, I guess, yeah. Wow,

418
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.759
So people feel like a dark present
and yeah, I mean a lot of

419
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:06.599
horrible should happened there. Yes,
it's terrible though, I mean, I

420
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:10.519
feel so bad for those people.
Aside from the prison's dark past, there's

421
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:17.079
still other paranormal happenings apparently. So
one of the spirits that said to roam

422
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:24.480
the prison to this day is lanco
Oh. I like her name, Lea

423
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:31.320
Dama, not like Blanco, the
Lady in White or the damon White.

424
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:38.039
I guess yes, yeah, fancy
name. Yeah. Supposedly this is the

425
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:44.199
mother of a former prisoner who went
there one day in hopes of visiting her

426
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:46.599
son. When she got to the
prison, she asked the guards if she

427
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:51.119
could see her son, and the
guards told her that her son had been

428
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:55.000
misbehavior, he was in solitary confinement
and could not accept visitors. But the

429
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:59.960
woman was determined to see her son, and she stood in the fridge city

430
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:04.079
and planned to try again. During
another attempt to see her son, guards

431
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:08.000
told the woman that her son had
died of tuberculosis. Desperate to see her

432
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:15.880
son, the woman somehow got past
them and wandered the prison, and then

433
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:19.880
she was found frozen to death.
Oh my god, that's so sad.

434
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:23.760
Yeah, till this day it set
that the woman and her son roamed the

435
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:30.440
prison looking for each other. So
sad. I feel like his death was

436
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:35.039
suspicious because they were like, oh
no, And then every death inside of

437
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:40.000
her prison is suspicious to me.
This woman was first spotted in nineteen seventy

438
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:45.639
eight and then again in nineteen eighty
two by guards or soldiers who lived on

439
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:52.519
the island's naval base and would help
patrol the museum. According to eyewitnesses,

440
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:58.320
she has red eyes, which is
kind of creepy. Sounds a little more

441
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:02.880
sinister than a ghost of a mom
to me because of the red eyes.

442
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:07.840
No, honestly, I would try
to like reak havoc if anything happened to

443
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:12.920
my kid, and I would have
red eyes too, And so red eyes,

444
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:16.639
long blonde hair. And she is
crying and uncontrollably when she's seen.

445
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:23.199
And apparently her spirit is so fryeny
that guards tried to shoot at it when

446
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:27.679
wants to shoot at her when they
saw her. And these bullet holes are

447
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:32.440
still on the prison walls because they'll
see them. Wow. Wild. Another

448
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:37.360
spirit seen in the prison is the
spirit of at Cantina's first serial killer and

449
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:45.480
most notable psychopath, Gaetano Santos Godino, and he is said to still roam

450
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:51.760
the prison. He was responsible for
the death of four children, but he

451
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:57.280
also had seven other attempted murders and
he tried to burn seven buildings. What

452
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:02.840
Yeah, His stays were spent in
prison alone, and he died without confessing

453
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:07.280
to any of his crims. He
was a target in prison, probably for

454
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:12.719
killing a kid, killing kids,
multiple kids, I mean, and so

455
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:21.039
he was mistreated in prison, beaten
by other prisoners, and sexually assaulted by

456
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:25.639
other prisoners. It's not really known
how he died, but former prisoners say

457
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:30.239
that he was beaten to beaten to
death by other inmates after he killed a

458
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:37.559
cat that they considered a pet.
In twenty nineteen, the paranormal research group

459
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:44.679
Tierra del Fuego claimed they captured his
voice using a spirit box that was so

460
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:50.239
creepy, and people who visit the
prison feel nauseous when they enter the main

461
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:55.159
block and they can hear whistling.
I don't like it. Just something about

462
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:59.760
whistling is la. It's like it's
like it's like the stories that whenever you

463
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:02.840
hear whistling at night, it's just
the ominous sign. But like I don't

464
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:07.599
know if this happens during the day
too, but it's just like not good.

465
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:13.519
Yeah, and many people believe that
the spirits or the whistling that people

466
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:17.280
here, it's still the spirits of
the prisoners whistling to each other like they

467
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:23.119
used to when the prison was so
active. Wow. Okay, so my

468
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:28.880
next story is again pretty sure,
but it's this next hunted prison is from

469
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:35.559
Costa Rica and it's San Lucas Prison
and it was a maximum security prison on

470
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:39.800
an island. It was open from
eighteen seventy three to nineteen ninety one.

471
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:45.599
Nineteen ninety one, that's all.
That's too long, that's too recent,

472
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:47.440
even though it's not really that recent. Yeah, and it was like it

473
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:52.079
was. It has over a hundred
years of a dark history, and being

474
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:58.679
sent here was a death sentence for
many. The living conditions were terrible and

475
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:04.760
prisoners were It was built to hold
the most dangerous prisoners and it was built

476
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.559
off of the coast on an island
to make sure these prisoners stayed away from

477
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:14.599
the community. It had a notorious
reputation as being the most dangerous penitentiary in

478
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.599
the country of bost Arrica. It's
compared to Alcatraz here in the state.

479
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:22.199
It was abandoned in the nineties and
is now a decrepit place. There is

480
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:25.679
graffiti on the wall that is rumored
to have been created with blood. Since

481
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:31.079
prisoners didn't have supplies, they used
what they had. There were many murders

482
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:35.920
during its history, both of staff
and inmates, and there was a lot

483
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.320
of suicides and illnesses, so a
lot of death, which is said to

484
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:46.639
add to the dark energy here.
There is said, Yeah, there is

485
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:51.400
said to be a ghost a nurse
that still haunts the prison. According to

486
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:57.000
legend, the nurse was assaulted and
murdered by inmates, and she remains trapped

487
00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:00.559
in this prison. Many reports seeing
her as well as hearing her whisper to

488
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:05.639
them. There's also said to be
a ghost of a priest. He's also

489
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:13.159
believed to have been murdered by inmates. People hear disembodied voices begging for mercy,

490
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:19.519
they hear screams, and they see
shadow people from like the thing has

491
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:24.800
everything from current pictures I've seen,
this place should be condemned because it looks

492
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:29.280
like there's like a lot of black
mold. Now it could be paint,

493
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:34.519
but it looks like black mold to
me. I think it's a little bit

494
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:44.559
hazardous, so like it's haunted and
dangerous for the living. But before I

495
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:49.599
end this, this is I got
both stories from Amy's crypt and it's gonna

496
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:52.920
be I'm gonna do it, or
least book recommendation. But she does spooky

497
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:57.480
travel, so she travels around the
world for her Oh yeah, I've seen

498
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:00.639
some a lot of her pictures,
and yeah, that was the story that

499
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:05.840
I don't know. This prison just
looks I'm pretty sure it's black mold and

500
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:09.239
like it's a hundred prison. But
I ain't going in there. Yeah,

501
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:13.079
I am not breathing that stuff.
And I'm pretty sure it is. I

502
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:16.639
sent you the pictures. Oh yeah, let me look at them. Looks

503
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:22.360
like black mold to me. Oh
that does look like black hole because it

504
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:27.159
doesn't look like paint. That does
not know, But that's also like a

505
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:30.800
lot of mold. No, I
feel like it is. It could be

506
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:36.000
like a very damp area. But
oh, if you guys go there,

507
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:40.519
we're like a like a respirator,
like a paint respirator. That that stuff

508
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:45.559
isn't good. Yeah, that I
wouldn't want to break that in for sure.

509
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:51.440
Wow. Well yeah, and this
brings us to the end of the

510
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:58.440
episode. I believe. Yes,
okay, do you have any spooky recommendations?

511
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:01.440
Just to you guys, check check
out amy script dot com. I

512
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:07.760
get a lot of like haunted stories
from her, and we mostly cover Latin

513
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:13.639
America, but there's some really good
ones from around the world. So yes,

514
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:20.800
spooky recommendation. I have a couple
of things. So one, I

515
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:27.599
did actually start listening to the podcast
that I mentioned two, The Exorcist Files,

516
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:30.320
because and when I mentioned it.
I wasn't sure if it was an

517
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:37.079
audio drama or if it was like
real. So I have now learned that

518
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:45.719
all these episodes come from a vault
of a Catholic priest who was an exorcist

519
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:52.360
for the church in I forgot where, and he has a whole like vault

520
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:57.199
with files of exorcisms he did himself, and that's where all the episodes are

521
00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:01.039
coming from. That is terrifying.
And let me tell you obviously, so

522
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:07.320
it's a Catholic priest. It's very
heavily Catholic. They talk about like the

523
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:14.079
first episode is I guess spoiler alert
if you haven't listened to it, forward

524
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:17.400
like a minute or so. So
the first episode is a woman who wants

525
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:22.239
to get pregnant so bad she starts
dwelling into like the occult, you could

526
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:25.840
say, and you know, one
of the sins one of the most worst

527
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:30.000
things you can do is dwell into
the occult in the Catholic Church. So

528
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:32.360
you're not supposed to go to mediums. You're not supposed to do all this

529
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:36.079
kind of stuff. Which is funny
though, because when you look at Mexico,

530
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:43.719
the mediumship, spirituality, it's very
intertwined, right, and it's also

531
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:52.360
very weird because historically Christianity and Catholicism
is a very I don't want to say

532
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.960
magic based, but a little bit
magic based religion. You had a mixture

533
00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:04.320
of like to the point where when
I studied Renaissance art in college, you

534
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.719
could see that people at the time, even priests, really believed in zodiacs

535
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:12.679
and like premonitions and ships. I
don't know when it changed, Yeah,

536
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.639
it like changed, I want to
say, like in the last like maybe

537
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:21.280
one hundred and two hundred years.
But it was a very religion that was

538
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:24.800
very mystic and it has changed a
lot. And if you go to like

539
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:30.119
Mexico today, no one bats an
eye if you say you went too or

540
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:35.000
you went to something else, a
healer of some story that was not the

541
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:37.239
Catholic Church, even the church itself, They're not going to tell you anything

542
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:42.039
because it's so common. But that's
not a thing everywhere. So this woman

543
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:45.440
went to a medium, and this
the father himself is on these episodes talking

544
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:49.239
about what happened in the case.
So he's like, and that's what she

545
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:52.800
did wrong. She invited like evil
spirits when she did that, and she

546
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:58.239
was like desperate to become a mother, that it became an obsession and she

547
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.800
wasn't like happy with she wasn't okay
with what like God was giving her at

548
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:07.039
the moment, and that made invited
evil spirits in. So it's a little

549
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:10.679
preachy to me obviously, because but
again it like if you listen to it,

550
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:15.760
know that it's going to get preachy
because the father himself is talking on

551
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:21.559
the episodes and it's it's like catholic, you know, but it's so creepy.

552
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.559
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna listen
to that. So there's parts where

553
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:29.519
he's talking about the case, but
every episode starts out with like what led

554
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:32.679
up to it? Right, so
people are acting out the things he wrote

555
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:37.039
about, and then he chimes in, the father himself chimes in, and

556
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:40.920
then you get to the part where
the actual extracism is happening, or when

557
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:46.119
it's revealed that there's like a demon
inside this person and that those parts are

558
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:51.480
so scary to me. Oh,
it's so good. It is really good,

559
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:54.719
So I do recommend it. It's
crazy. I'm listening to that while

560
00:45:54.719 --> 00:46:00.199
I cook today, Yes, do
it? Do it? Yeah? Those

561
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:02.440
those parts are so creepy. And
then my other thing is I'm so sad

562
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:09.119
I didn't get to watch it Satanic
Hispanics. It's out on theaters now.

563
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:15.599
I saw that. Yeah, but
I was sick last week and that's when

564
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.320
the only showings that were near me
in Portland were happening. And now there's

565
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.920
no showings near me. Apparently.
It seems to be a lot of showings

566
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:28.880
in California that I because I looked
at the website, so like, as

567
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:32.400
of this week, I only see
showings in California specifically, like southern California.

568
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:37.440
Oh yeah, it's always over there. Yeah, so there's nothing over

569
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:45.039
here, and it's not available to
stream yet or rent or anything. But

570
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:47.079
yeah, so that's another thing.
If if you, if you can catch

571
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:50.960
a showing near you, definitely check
it out. I really want to watch

572
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:55.719
it. One more recommendation before we
say goodbye. A million miles Away on

573
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:59.760
Amazon Prime. It's such a good
movie. Oh, I do want to

574
00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:02.639
see that. It's good. I
just hate that he's a scientologist. Oh,

575
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:09.519
Michael Benya the main actor. I
didn't even know everybody's a scientologist.

576
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:15.480
Now it's the worst. So yeah, that brings us to the end of

577
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:21.400
the episode. I believe, all
right, now actually yes, so yeah,

578
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:22.800
I don't know. Watch out for
whistles that night when you visit that

579
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:28.199
one prison. Yes, yes,
yes, yes, and stay a spooky

580
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:36.519
We'll catch everyone next time. Bye
bye. Spooky Tails is hosted by Christina

581
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:40.719
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Christina. Everything is written and researched by

582
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:45.559
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583
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:51.000
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you want bonus episodes, stickers,
exclusive stickers might I add, then consider

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joining our patreon go over to patreon
dot com slash Spookytails. There are over

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at least fifteen bonus episodes right now, and we do at least one a

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month, sometimes two, depending on
how we are feeling. If you want

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to support the podcast and don't or
can't or don't want to, that's fine.

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Join the patreon. Then consider getting
some merch. We have an adorable

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beanie that I love. I absolutely
adore it. It's so comfy, it's

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warm, it has spooky and old
English letters. There's also a baseball hat

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in the same way, a spooky
and old English letters, and that's what

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I wear in the summers. They're
both awesome hats. And there's other things

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in there, like the Nommas shirts, which is a very popular shirt.

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If you like history, check out
my other podcast, Estia is Unknown,

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hosted with the unofficial official guest co
host of a Spooky Tales, Carmen,

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And if you like novelast, check
out novelasco caa Fito, which Carmen and

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I also host together. And yeah, we love every single listen every single

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spooky. Thank you so much,
Stay spooky.