Haunted Metro and the Cannibal Poet of Mexico City

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Hi everyone, This is Christina and
Carmen and this is Spooky Tells, the

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podcast for all things as Spooky,
And yes, that's right, our unofficial

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official guest co host Carmen has so
kindly filled in for MJ as a reminder

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she's going to be filling in for
MJ mental like Dando January and yeah,

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let's send m j r Best best
wishes. I was gonna say, well

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wishes. Why was I going to
say that too? Wow? Because we're

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twins. Well, because best wishes, warmest regards like a shit's creek.

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Oh yeah, you know, I
almost think you have a new cold.

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Sometimes when you're sick, then there's
like opportunistic little viruses waiting for their chance

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because your immune seems already down.
Then they pounce. I was just hoping

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it was the same one because then
it wouldn't mean I'm not sick again.

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I'm just still sick. It's hard
to turns to tell, but I think

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it's a new cold. Yeah,
everything's going around, you know. What's

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so funny. Once in a while
there's tweets that are like, everyone's sick

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and no one's testing positive for COVID? What is it? And I'm like,

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do they remember before COVID, everyone
was always sick around this time of

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the year. Yeah. I was
gonna say, please, it's not something

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mysterious. There's rhinovirus, there's RSV, there's the flu, there's COVID,

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and there's other common cold, a
regular cold. Yeah, viruses. It's

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probably one of those many viruses.
That doesn't mean it's COVID and it's not

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some secret conspiracy, Like you're just
sick and then people that have already had

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COVID are more prone to getting sick
more because your immune system sucks. But

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yeah, anyway, we're not talking
about that today. We're carbon sick.

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That's why I wrote it up.
We are talking about see that Mexico.

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Wow, we have a hunted hunted
metro stories from that Mexico and I have

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a terrible true crime case as well. Wow. Great. Yeah, it's

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gonna be fun. Carmen is gonna
be telling the spooky story, the spooky

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story, and I'm going to be
telling the true crime story. You might

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have heard it before, Carman,
we'll see when I started. Okay,

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but first we have a listener story. So if you have a story that

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you want to send into the podcast, You can email at Spooky toes at

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email dot com. You can send
us a DM on any of our socials.

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You can attach a voice note to
the email. You can also call

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the a Spooky hotline. That number
is in the show notes. This was

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sent in via email. All right, and here it goes. First of

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all, you two are the best. I have such bad anxiety some days

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at work and I'll just put on
your podcast and I am calmed down and

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laughing with you. I happen to
love your rants and off topics stories because

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that is how my mind is too
amazing. It's like I found my people.

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Ha ha ha ha. She's Mosa
Sportovida. Way back in nineteen eighty

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nine, my cousin and I were
driving down Carpenter Road towards Patterson what two

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o nine. It was dark and
late and that road is only two lanes.

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We saw a light coming at us. It was kind of high up,

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but not flying above the orchards that
were on each side of the road.

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It was just above our car,
heading right at us, super bright,

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and then gone, no noise,
no light, no plane, no

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car, just our dark road.
Again. I always thought aliens, but

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she always thought crop duster. What
crop I don't know what a crop duster

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is? Crop duster? Should we
look it up? Let's interrub this story,

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because that like farm equipment. Maybe
crap duster. Oh it's a plane

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that drops uh, fertilizer or pesticides. Oh all right, let's see.

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I also texted my other cousin that
still lives in Patterson. He lives in

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a house that has a ghost.
His mom told us when we were little,

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She says, she yelled at him
at the ghost. She thinks the

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ghost is an Australian man who built
the house. Okay, that's very specific.

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Yoh by Australian. Oh my god. Okay does she know because a

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ghosts. Instead of saying no,
it says an r. The ghost was

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fighting a crocodile. It was the
ghost of Steve. Steve Irwin. Yeah,

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I can remember his name in the
two nine and random the house on

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Patterson Road. Okay, so she
thinks the ghost is an Australian man who

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built a house. She yelled at
it that this is a Christian house and

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you are not wanted here. Yes, my aunt is a scary Christian woman,

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she said. He stays in the
basement. I'll ask him what kind

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of stories he has. I told
him to start listening to your podcast.

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Oh, thank you. We love
a recommendation. Right. My friend Lexi

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is from Adesto, but we met
and San Diego, where we both live.

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She was lucky enough to tour the
Whaley House at night. I volunteered

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at the Whaley House in Old Town
San Diego every year for the Yellos Mortos.

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I always built the altar for the
Whaleys in the yard to their house.

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The last time I volunteered, the
upstairs window just flew out into little

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pieces all over the yard like someone
just went through it. Oh my god,

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except no one was upstairs. Wow. All the employees were like,

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yep, you guys just saw something. Thank you for bringing spooky to the

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world. I'll send a message when
my cousin gets back to me. Shout

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out to nine, shout out.
I did reply. This was this was

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email in October begging it of October, and so I emailed at the end

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of November. That's when I saw
it and I was like, oh my

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god, somehow I missed it.
We love hearing from her to nine listeners

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because we do. We do.
Also, how funny that they mentioned the

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Whaley House else, and we're doing
like a This episode is like a page

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from and that's why we drink because
one of their first episodes was the Whaley

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House and then one of their tours
was the Whaley House. Lots of connections

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here. Yeah. I also randomly
love running into people from the Tone nine

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away from the Tone nine. It's
so random because it is because who's even

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from here? You know? Yeah? Yeah, so when you run into

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someone else, you're like, oh
my god, are you from Modesta?

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Yeah? And yeah, it's always
fun. Okay, so oh wait,

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sorry, when you when you had
told me that this episode would be one

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spooky story once your crime story,
it came to my mind that this is

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like the Spanish or Spanglish version of
and that's why we drink. And then

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I was thinking of cheesy ways to
call that in Spanish, but it couldn't

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take it none and just only in
Spanish, and that's why wee. But

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it's a past amos that's always Spanish, I know. That's why I said,

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I can't think it was Spanish.
Yeah, you're right, You're right.

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It doesn't flow. It's like that
force Spanlish from on the Block or

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on my block. What's that show
called? Oh god, yeah, yeah,

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pattern so Noon that was my Spanish
that was Force Spanish. Yeah,

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doesn't speak Spanish, yeah no,
yeah right, but they do it all

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the time. Yeah. Yeah,
it's like the older shows, like I

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forgot which ones, but yeah,
like let's go Familia were that's why we

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were at Manas. Yeah, okay, well let's your your your story first,

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Carmen, and I will act surprise, like I didn't write the notes

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myself cutting not. I'll act surprise. Okay. So, like you said,

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we're talking about let see that Mexico
Metro. What did you say,

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Yeah, the Metro Metro. You
know, the the train in Mexico.

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So train five hundred, five hundred
and one used to run online, one

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of the Silamhico Metro and it now
runs online. Five and line one is

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one of the oldest lines, actually
the first line. Yeah, hence the

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number one numero you know number you
know, right, that's what Dora would

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say, many train conductors are too
scared to drive this train or line whatever.

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Oh god, it was the first
line where a man was said to

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jump to his death on the tracks. Yeah, and I laughed because I'm

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reading it I don't know what's gonna
happen. So before I read it,

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I was like, oh god,
yeah, listeners, in case you can't

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tell, I wrote the notes.
A girl is reading them, just so

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I don't read for an hour straight. But she's she's the one that's going

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to be surprised. And before I
read something, oh god. After the

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nineteen eighties earthquake that hit the center
of Mexico, stories of hauntings online one

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and train five hundred, five hundred
one. What kind of just call it

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five hundred one or something or just
five hundred. Yeah, the stories the

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haunting spread, so the train was
allegedly used to transport bodies back and forth

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to Morgus, adding to the haunting
stories. So when the Metro started working

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again after the earthquakes, only workers
knew that the train was used for transporting

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the Morgs back and forth. The
BODI used to the more Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, what did I say,
transporting the Morgue which, sorry,

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wild Yeah, I'm still sick,
y'all. I mean like, I'm sick

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again and my brain is barely working. You're sick again, yeah, not

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transporting the morgs, transporting the bodies
back and forth. To the Morgs.

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So yeah, only than knew.
The workers knew about this, and soon

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the passengers started complaining of a nauseating
smell that came and went, and nothing

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was causing the smell. So when
the five hundred five hundred one train arrived

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to its final stop, employees do
walk through to let passengers know that this

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is the final stop. A guard
was walking through and noticed that a family

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was still sitting in the back,
but when he got to their section,

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they were gone. There was only
a little girl sitting there. Why is

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it always a little girl? I
don't like it, I know. She

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was hunched over and crying, and
the guard thought that her parents abandoned her,

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so he ran through the train looking
for the parents, calling for help,

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and told other employees to look for
the parents, but they couldn't be

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found, so the three employees agreed
to take her to the police station.

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One of them walked towards her.
She was sitting in the same spot,

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still hunched over and still crying.
He crouched out to look sorry. He

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crushed out to talk to her,
but when she looked at him, the

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girl had a pale gray skin and
her eyes were dead and cold. She

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was dead. Yeah, ooh,
can you just pick to that, because

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you know, like to be kinder
to children, you lean down to talk

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to them at their level, and
then it just looks up and it's like,

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that's a child. I'm picturing like
that kid from the Ring. Yes,

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I always pictured the little kid from
the Ring, the one that sits

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there crouched down. Yeah, yeah, terrifying. And that's also what I

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picture when I heard the marble story
from our a Wilita's house. God,

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oh yeah, oh oh, and
I forgot what I was said. I

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mentioned that in I don't remember.
I feel like it was a while ago.

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Oh yeah, yeah, like a
year ago whatever episode. But yeah,

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basically, there's a marble that runs
down the stairs of our A Wilita's

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house that nobody has heard it in
a while. But one of our cousins

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saw a little boy lean over in
my mom or my mom's or a Walita's.

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Like it's not a backyard, it's
like a little patio. It's very

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small. It's where you hang clothes
basically, and that's it. And he

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saw a little boy crashed down like
if they were about to you know,

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hit a marble, roll a marble. Whatever you do to a marble,

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I don't know. You go like
this, you flick it, You flick

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a marble. Okay, I think
you did with your thumb though, do

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you Yeah, I don't hit it
with your index finger. Yeah, And

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so that's how I picture all terrifying
little kids. Yeah, in any ghost

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story, she cried out, I
don't want to be here, and he

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he ran all the way back to
the supervisor and put it in his two

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weeks right then and there. Yeah, wouldn't even do two weeks. I'd

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be like, I'm fucking done,
I'm out of here. I would have

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left. Yeah. New engineers,
guards and conductors are usually sent to train

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five hundred five hundred one because everyone
else knows it's Hanset. So it's like

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all the newbies, Yeah, they
don't know yet in their former hazing the

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new new employees. Another conductor,
a woman will call her Luisa, was

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a new on the job. She
had only been there three months. On

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October, she had done a double
shift and was on her last loop,

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and she noticed that the train was
extra cold when she passed by That got

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themote station. Her train came to
a sudden stop. She was the only

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one on the train because very few
passengers took this last train, and she

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figured the train it was just having
mechanical issues. She then tried to radio

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for help, but nothing was working
and she heard footsteps, but when she

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looked, no one was there.
Great, this is exactly what you want

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to hear when your train's not working. Footsteps and you're the only one there.

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Yeah. Finally the train got going
again and she was able to get

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to the nearest station where she stopped
to double check. And she was doing

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her checks, an officer approached her
and as if everything was okay. She

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told them she was okay now,
but she had been having issues and that

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she had heard footsteps, so he
did a walk through for her and told

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her everything looked good. He then
asked, are you guys off after this?

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No? No, Mom, I
would have thrown up. She was

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like, guys, what, it's
just me. So she said that she

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was on her way back to head
home and he told her double ships are

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rough, but I think she had
her partner and after as if he wasn't

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training, and she's like, full, I'm the only one driving. What

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do you mean? We? What
do you mean? We? What do

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you mean? And she's like,
no, I saw to people on the

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train when it was pulling in,
And he's like, oh, forget it,

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I'm probably just seeing things. And
she was confused but continued on her

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way. I would have just left
left the train, not gone back to

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the last stop. Yeah. Not
long after, the train came to a

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send and stop inside of a tunnel. Not a tunnel. Not a tunnel.

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That's the worst place you can stop. Oh my god. So she

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was able to get in contact with
command and told them what happened, and

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they told her to wait while they
figured it out. And then she heard

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someone tap the window behind her.
Oh, and then she heard silence.

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No, I'm mecago. So she
was waiting from waiting for instructions for command

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when she saw women pass by outside
on the tracks. She thought, so

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she wanted to think. She really
wished it was one of the passengers that

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was not on her train, but
she really wanted it to be a passenger,

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and basically convinced herself it was a
passenger. So she was about to

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go call her back in, you
know, to get out of the tracks,

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but the woman kept walking as if
she couldn't hear her, and the

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woman vanished into the dark, and
the conductor heard a disembodied laugh and she

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was scared as the fuck as am
I now. Command called her and they're

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like, are you okay? And
she was like can I go now?

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Like like, I like, let
me fucking leave, please, train drive

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please, I need to go,
and they gave her the okay, there

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would be an officer at the next
top to board and keep her company.

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She got to the next stop and
there was an officer there. So they

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searched the last stop looking for the
woman, and of course found no one.

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And he was like, have you
taken any drugs something? Have you?

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Are you on anything? Are you
high right now? How many fingers

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in my holding? But no,
she was. He sober. So they

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moved again and she was hella nervous, but was find the rest of the

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way And when she finally got there, other people were waiting for her and

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she asked them if she if they
knew anything about the train and one mechanic

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was like, oh, yeah,
trained five hundred and five hundred one is

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cursed, haunted. You didn't know. She was like what excuse me?

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Uh? What cases okay? And
he's like yeah, tons of mechanics and

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conductors have so many stories of disappearing
passengers, hearing screams, weird smells.

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One conductor told me two gets jumped
on the train jury email functioned in the

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tunnel and he told them to get
off, and when they got back into

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the tunnel, they vanished right before
his eyes. And the conductor almost passed

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out and needed a medical attention.
Oh my god, that's terrifying. And

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yeah, many believe that the spirits
of those who died during the earthquake are

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still roaming trained five hundred and five
hundred and one end line one of see

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that Mexico metro that was scary.
That was scary. Metro stories are the

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scariest, well, one of the
scariest to me. There's also a well

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I think were you on the episode
with me? Or was that MJ.

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But there's a lot of hunted metro
stories in Guadalajara too, I don't remember.

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Probably all over in Mexico, I
think that was MJ. But yeah,

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probably all over. Yeah, probably
just because of all the all the

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people coming and going and just how
old these cities are. And yeah,

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I mean everything that has happened,
but especially in Mexico City because yeah,

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yeah, two deadly earthquakes, which
we know that was MJ. I was

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like saying, we talked about but
we talked about a different disasters together.

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Yeah we did. But yeah,
I mean, no surprise that they're haunted.

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Oh, because you know what,
we have another episode called Haunted train

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Stations and that's the one where I
talked about metro story or metro stories.

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Yeah, yeah, which we've never
seen anything on, but we would be

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the last people to experience anything.
Luckily. It's it's lucky to me,

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Yes, very lucky. The other
day, I was at my friend's house

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and somehow, you know how things
go, sweet started talking about scary stories.

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Naturally, Yeah, naturally us Mexicans
do. And I forgot what happened.

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And I was like, no,
you need a loan to see stuff

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the gift. Yeah yeah. So
I used to live with Aparo, a

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mutual friend, and she says her
house was haunted. Tell her to send

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me her stories. I'll tell her. But it's not that it's like hearing

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freaking stuff. There was one that
was scarier and her and her brother and

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I want to see her mom,
like have seen everyone but everyone but me.

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Yeah, because I loved of our
lives probably like what four months,

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I think it was, yeah,
yeah, And I never saw anything or

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heard anything or felt anything was off. And then my friend Sandra told us,

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and I can't even believe she went
to the Winchester Mystery House with us,

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because she says she does hear and
see stuff. And I was like,

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and she was like, Hella anxious
about going. She's like, but

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I want to go because you guys
want to go. And I was like,

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Okay, I guess maybe she didn't
tell you why. No, she

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just said, like it makes like
that kind of stuff makes me feel an

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easy. But she barely told us, like last weekend that she has seen

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like a ghost in her house.
And I've been to her and of course

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never fell anything, of course,
And I didn't you always see anything at

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Winchester Mystery House either, did she? No, she was just anxious.

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Yeah, Okay. So she said
that she had like a nightmare and she

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couldn't wake up, kind of like
sleeping paralysis type. Yeah, and then

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that her nightmare just trying to find
her dog because she was hearing stuff and

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then she couldn't find him or something
like that. Anyway, when she woke

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up and she said she was already
awake that she saw. I think in

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her nightmare she saw like a lady
pointing, oh my god, like at

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something in her bed. And then
when she woke up, she saw a

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woman, a woman in her bed
where the person was pointing yes, yes,

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Oh my god. Oh I have
chills. Oh the scream. I

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scrumped when she told me, because
I was like, bitch, I'm here

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right, I was in her house. When she said, I was like,

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I know I'm leaving. I gotta
go suddenly suddenly I have to leave.

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Wow, like buying. So yeah, that's terrifying. That's terrifying.

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Oh my god. Mmm. I
got to what's what's goose folks in Spanish?

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Again? Oh? I thought was
calofrios. Oh my bad. I

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think it's both. No, yeah, it is okay. I think full

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body is calofrios. Full body is
calofios. We should make stickers that say

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full bodies. We're just gonna start
saying that, even though it doesn't flow.

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We're doing sports sports force Spanglish.
Just what I was trying to say,

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we're doing for I was combining Spanish
in force for Spanlish or nothing or

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yaa or nava exactly Okay, well, we'll take a quick ad break.

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I don't even say naturally, We're
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Those are great ads. Unless it
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unless it was something that we don't
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I'm not gonna joke about that,
Okay, So I'll be telling you,

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Carmen and the listeners about the cannibal
poets of that Mexico. Have you

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heard this story? Cannibal poet?
Yeah, a cannibal poet is what he

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called himself, the cat or no
that might have been what the media called

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them. I don't think I have
Okay, Okay, good, Yeah,

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this is a cannibal murder serial killer
who's also thought he was a poet emphasis

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on thought. Wow, is it
like a Meccan Fox poems? Like who

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Megan Fox poems. She came out
with the poetry book recently. No way,

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I didn't know this. Oh my
god, I'm gonna have to look

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for it and send it to you. Okay, okay, yeah, I

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don't know. I haven't. I
didn't look for his book. Oh okay,

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if he has one, okay.
So, Hosse Luis Cabaa was born

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June twentieth, nineteen sixty nine.
Not the name Hostel Louise. Not the

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name was the Louise, I know, right, Honestly, there's Hosta Luiss

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of all calibers, not all of
the marceerial killers. Yeah, if you

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say so. Yeah, some of
them are, some of them are knowing,

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some of them are great, some
of them are kind. You know,

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there's different ones, because I personally
know like three Hostel Luises. At

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least ten Hostel Luisas. Yeah,
actually you're right, it's more like ten,

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very common. But yeah, this
one's a serial killer. This one's

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of the serial killer caliber. This
is what happens to be a serracillar.

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Yeah. But again, not all
host Luisas are not Luiss. Oh my

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god. Okay. So he had
a rough childhood. His father died when

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he was two and he was raised
by his mother, Elia, and by

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all accounts, Elia was abusive,
okay, not the best mom, no

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no. And he also was part
of a I went, it's a huge

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family, but bigger. Three sisters
and a brother. Okay, so five

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siblings total, five siblings, yeah, which I think is like a middle

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sized family in Mexico because like eight
or nine yeah, eight to eleven siblings

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is what I call a huge family. Yeah, especially back wait when was

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he born sixty nine? Yeah?
Yeah, especially back then. M hm.

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So yes, they lived and see
that Mexico. And again, by

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all accounts, Elia was abusive.
She was very strict, and she had

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brutal punishments that included regular beatings.
She also did things like breaking any gifts

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the children received, which was rare
because you know, they're a mid sized

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family in a single single parent household, right, they're like gifts and new

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toys they don't come by yeah very
often. Like once, Hosteluis got a

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new truck as a gift and she
broke it as a punishment. And so

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he was six when this happened,
and he started working at that age because

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he wanted a new truck. So
he started shining shoes like the little boy

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from Coco. But he was nice
but not as wholesome. Not as wholesome.

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Yeah, so he saved money from
his shoe shining work. But our

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new one got home with it,
was happy to have it, and when

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she saw it, she beat him
and broke his new truck. Oh my

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god. You know, you hear
that a lot of from abusive parents like

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that, like they don't want to
buy you nothing, and then when you

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finally can't afford to buy something yourself, they're still not happy because it's about

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you know, making as miserable and
control and whatever exactly. So I just

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just a bad childhood. He was
sexually abused by a friend of his older

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brother. Oh my god. The
friend was sixteen and he was seven when

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this happened. Oh my god,
it's horrifying. At twelve, his mom

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kicked him out of the house because
he was too much according to her,

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and so then he he lived with
some It was like a I want to

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say, it was not a house. It was like a vessin dad almost,

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okay, or a house with multiple
like an apartment building or something like

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that, because another family owned that
building and they let him stay with them

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and that's where he stayed, so
he wasn't homeless. He was like homeless

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for a little bit, and then
they saw that he was kicked out and

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he stayed with them after that.
But he dropped out of school. He

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started drinking at a really young age, had some really bad depression naturally with

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you know, everything that has happened
to him. Yeah, I think it

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was around high school that he stopped
going to school and he started working with

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his brother in law as a clown. So he was the clown and the

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brother in law was a magician,
not another clown. Yeah. Yeah,

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oh why he didn't stay a clown
though, so I think that's the difference

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here. He just happened to work
as a cloud at one point in his

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life. Yeah, And he also
became interested in writing at this age,

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so then, you know whatever,
life continued. At age twenty seven,

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in nineteen ninety six, he married
his first wife, either and she was

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also the mother of his two kids. This marriage did not last. They

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divorced two years later, and then
she took the kids to the US,

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and this made Josa super mad and
more depressed, like how dare she take

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the kids for me? Also,
he was abusive in controlling. Well,

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I forgot to mention that. I
mean, it makes sense. Yeah,

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it checks out, it tracks.
So at this point in his life,

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he started drinking more heavily and using
drugs. Not long after, I then

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left him with his children. Left
left with his children. Yes, not

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left him with the children, but
left to the s and to the US

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and took the children with us.
What I was trying to say. Yeah,

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he met Lydia, his new girlfriend, and Lydia would later say in

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some interviews that he was really into
Brugheria, and he especially wanted to place

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a curse on his ex wife aide
okay for taking the kids. Yeah,

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and you know that's wrong. Only
mean people put curses higher, which is

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to put curses on other people.
Yeah. Good people don't do that.

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He would also tell Lydia thinks like
if you leave me, I'm gonna kill

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myself. So he was abusive and
controlling and jealous towards her too. She

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did manage to escape though, good
for her, Good for her. Yes.

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So at this point in his life
he was like very very into writing.

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He would pass out pamphlets of his
poetry on the street. And you

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don't have a sample, No,
okay, I couldn't find any. Oh.

406
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.519
He would also tell people he was
a famous author, kind of delusional

407
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:34.480
because he was not I think I
have heard this. You might have,

408
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:40.039
you might have. This is starting
to sound familiar, Okay, okay.

409
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:48.119
While he was passing out poetry flyers, he met Alexandra Galliana Gavito and she

410
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:52.359
was a single mother with two kids. They started talking, getting more serious.

411
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.960
She thought he was a sweet guy, because I mean, come on,

412
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:59.799
he was passing out poetry in the
street. Yeah, And I don't

413
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:02.519
know, maybe maybe the poetry was
sweet. Maybe she read it and she

414
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:06.200
was like, wow, this is
uh, this is so nice. You

415
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:08.519
know. I don't know. But
you can't judge a book by its cover.

416
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.799
Some terrible people write really good things
too, you know. Yeah,

417
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.599
not that I don't know. I
don't know if his running was any good

418
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:25.000
though, allah JK. Rowley.
Yeah, although looking back at the books

419
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:26.480
that I thought were amazing, you
kind of read them now and you're like,

420
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:33.920
okay, but they're children's books.
Yeah, true, true, No,

421
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:36.519
But like the way she would come
up with names, Yeah, but

422
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:38.799
all kids books have silly names.
I mean, some have normal names,

423
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:44.359
like naming the only Asian character cho
chain. Oh oh well, yeah,

424
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:48.759
yeah, I forgot about that aspect. I thought you were talking about like

425
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:53.559
other people's names. No, no, no, like hers yeah yeah yeah,

426
00:31:55.160 --> 00:32:00.839
or making the only black student at
Bogwarts. It's dad. I'm sorry.

427
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.480
It's just the audacity of her writing. And the only black students are

428
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:08.160
Hogwarts. He had an absent father. Oh but see, like little things

429
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:12.920
like that, I don't remember.
Oh, I don't know why they're ingrained

430
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:16.440
in my brain. I don't know
anyway back to this. All this to

431
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:21.039
say that terrible people can write good
things. But I don't think he wrote

432
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:23.559
good things. I think his writing
probably stuck, and that's why he was

433
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:28.799
passing out pamphlets of his writing in
the street. Maybe he just didn't have

434
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:36.039
the means to pursue writing and to
study writing. True. True, you

435
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:38.279
know you you're right, You're right. So, yeah, they were talking.

436
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:42.759
She thought he was a sweet guy. He also learned that handra I

437
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:45.799
worked at a pharmacy, and this
made him very excited because he was a

438
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:51.680
little bit of drugs, you know, like a clanaz a pam okay,

439
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:58.240
okay, a little bit of benzos. Yeah, among other other things like

440
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:01.480
math. But mainly Klan as a
pan was his favorite. Interesting, those

441
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:06.799
are very two different drugs. Yeah
yeah, there was like other things that

442
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.839
he also used, but almost everything
was on the list at one point.

443
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:15.839
Oh okay, yeah. So at
some point, Alejandra introduced Hosta Luise to

444
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:19.839
her mother and he told her that
he told her mother and that he made

445
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:23.480
two hundred dollars a day through his
writing. Her mom did not believe it,

446
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:28.240
and she also got very bad vies
from him. He seemed to need

447
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:32.440
to control the conversation and he talked
about himself in a grandiose manner. Okay,

448
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:36.960
like he talked himself up. And
he also talks about himself too much.

449
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:38.920
So to her, she's like,
I don't know about this guy.

450
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:45.359
Bad vibe is all around. Yeah, So slowly Jose Louis started revealing his

451
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:49.079
true self to Alexandra. She could
see that he was controlling, jealous,

452
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:52.119
and abusive. In two thousand and
seven, she knew that she needed to

453
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:57.240
get out of the relationship, but
she didn't know how until October of that

454
00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:00.200
year, she was offered a new
job at a different location. More my

455
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:04.920
god, North and see that Mexico. What do you say? Oh,

456
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:07.119
my god, because I do remember
this and I know she doesn't make it

457
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:12.719
there. You're right, Yeah,
So she needed to move more north in

458
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.559
the city so she won't have to
travel back and forth that much, like

459
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:17.039
the commune would be less. So
she was like, Okay, this is

460
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:22.559
my chance to get away from him, and presumably she told him about his

461
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.119
plant, about her plans to move
and you know, leave him. So

462
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:30.840
on October fifth, Alejandra's mom got
a phone call that Alexandra never made it

463
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:36.079
to work. Alexandra's mom immediately was
like, that son of a bitch,

464
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:40.480
she knew, and also sorry for
spoiling this beforehand. Oh yeah, ah,

465
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:44.360
yeah, we knew her. Maybe
I'll cut it out. Yeah,

466
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:46.800
we could tell. We could tell
because I did say he was a stirra

467
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:54.960
killer in the beginning exactly. So
yeah, she immediately suspected Hotel Louis has

468
00:34:55.000 --> 00:35:01.000
something to do with it because of
how controlling, weird and just abusive he

469
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:04.840
was, right, Yeah, So
she went over there to find out,

470
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.960
to knock on his door and like, you know, figure out what was

471
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:10.239
going on, But a neighbor interrupted
her and told her that she had they

472
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:15.360
had seen Alexandra go inside of Luisa's
house and like knock him back out.

473
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:21.480
So she contacted police with this new
information, and on October seventh, police

474
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:24.960
arrived to Hossa Luisa's house. He
was sitting on the table eating when they

475
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:31.480
arrived. When they began their search, okay, and you have you'll see

476
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:39.760
why I brought that up. So
stop, I done? Did I'm done?

477
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:45.599
Okay, So they tell him,
like, you know she was lasting

478
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:49.920
here, we need to do a
search. And so they did conduct their

479
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:54.639
search and they found Alexandra's body and
his closet. So right away, you

480
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:59.880
know, they could tell us her
her right leg and right arm were missy

481
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:02.800
and so they're like, all right, well where is the rest of her?

482
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:07.039
Where's her arm? Yeah, where's
her arm? Where's her leg?

483
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.519
So they kept looking and I don't
know what brought them to open the fridge,

484
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:15.199
but they opened the fridge and they
found Alejandra's missing body parts on a

485
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:21.000
plate inside the fridge. Oh my
god. Next to that plate was a

486
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:23.840
box of corn flakes, Just like, who the fuck puts cornflakes? Who

487
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:29.360
put that? Yeah? No,
you don't put corn flakes in the fridge.

488
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:31.880
Come on some random day, I'll
work one of my coworkers was like

489
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:37.559
asking like weird questions, and she
was like, if you were a serial

490
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:43.239
killer, what tray or what?
Okay, what weird trade would people look?

491
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:45.480
I forgot how she wore it,
but basically look back on like when

492
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:50.360
they write your shit, yeah yeah, and they write about you. And

493
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:54.840
that cereal box detail is definitely that
trait for him, besides the other you

494
00:36:54.840 --> 00:37:00.639
know, controlling it or whatever else. Right right, Well, they were

495
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:02.920
like, this is this seems out
of place. Let's look inside this cereal

496
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:09.920
box. And that's when they saw
fried human bones. Oh my inside the

497
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:15.000
box? Uh yeah, I thought
I thought it was just regular cereal in

498
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:20.119
there, No, which would have
been weird, but this is just worse.

499
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:22.920
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe he was
like, no, one's gonna look

500
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:27.559
in here, who's gonna look?
Who's gonna look? Yeah? So I

501
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.719
don't know why, yeah, but
but yeah they looked and that's what they

502
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:34.840
saw. So then they turned around
to look maybe look at He's gonna be

503
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.880
like, what the fuck? What
are you? What? What? Why

504
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:40.039
is her like in the fridge?
Why is there? Why is her fried

505
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:45.719
bones? What are these corn flaves? What are these corn flates? Yeah?

506
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:49.840
So they turned look at him in
and no they look at his plate

507
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.920
again, and that's when they noticed
that he's eating cooked body parts. Oh

508
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:59.239
my god, and I only laugh
at how horrible this is. This isn't

509
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.960
like a funny laugh. Very quify. Okay, yeah, I'm very uncomfortable.

510
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:07.159
This isn't terrifying and horrible because you
would have thought he would at least

511
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:12.039
stop eating while they're searching them.
Oh, he was actively eating when they

512
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:14.880
looked at him. M hm.
He was like, I'm gonna get my

513
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:19.280
last bite here. I don't care
what's going on. Oh no, I'm

514
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:22.559
sorry. Oh my god. Yeah. So then they looked over at the

515
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:27.000
at the stove and there was a
frying pan on there and there were cute

516
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:31.880
biparts inside the stuff frying pan.
He was immediately arrested. He confessed to

517
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:36.159
strangling her to death, but he
maintained that he didn't eat her, even

518
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:39.159
though they saw him eating. Oh
my god. He insisted that he cooked

519
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:45.079
her to feed her to the neighborhood
dogs. That's still horrible, and I

520
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:47.840
just want to say, poor Fidu
lice. The dog didn't ask for this,

521
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:52.159
No, they didn't. During the
investigation, they also found a book

522
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:57.760
he was working on. Guess the
title of this book. Is it food

523
00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:02.559
related? Yeah, you could say
that what I'm hungry for? No kids.

524
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:08.800
It was titled Instinctosovillas. Oh my
god. It was like eating related,

525
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:15.519
not food related, Cannibal instincts or
twelve Days, which is just a

526
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:19.320
weird title, I think, or
twelve days. Yeah, I think he

527
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.920
could have just went with cannibal instincts. Also weird title for someone who insists

528
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:30.320
they didn't eat anyone. Yeah.
There was also a picture of Hannibal Lecter

529
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:35.519
what the hell next to the book, like he was like thinking for inspiration

530
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:40.559
or something. I don't know.
Wow, oh my god. There was

531
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:47.280
also during during the investigation another murder
linked to Jose Luis. His girlfriend Veronica

532
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:54.000
con Suelo Martinez went missing in two
thousand and four and she was found dismembered

533
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:59.280
in a dump and there were no
leads on this at all, and she

534
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:02.320
was found until he was arrested.
They uncovered that they had been together and

535
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:07.559
she had been dismembered and she was
also a single mother. Missing body part,

536
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:12.159
oh yeah, missing the body or
the dismemberment of the body. They

537
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:17.119
kind of like linked that to the
dismemberment of Alexandra and the fact that she

538
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:21.000
was a single mother, because now
it seems like he really just now there's

539
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:25.400
a pattern, yes, exactly.
And when he was questioned about this,

540
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:30.480
he denied killing her, and he
blamed a friend of his called Juan Carlos

541
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:36.159
Jose, who worked with Veronica Conzuelo. And this friend, Juan Carlos Jose,

542
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:40.880
told police that he and Jossel Louis
were actually in a relationship what during

543
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:44.880
that time? Yeah, this like
I was, I was like, wow,

544
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:47.559
this took a turn. I don't
remember this part. Yeah. Yeah.

545
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:53.000
And so then Jose Juan Carlos Jose
said that josel Louis was the one

546
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:58.280
who had killed Veronica and he had
only helped hide her. Juan Carlos did

547
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:01.000
end up being arrested for this,
Sorry did he? Quan Carlos is the

548
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:05.519
one who said he only helped tire
her. Yeah, okay, do her

549
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:08.719
body, Okay, But according to
him, Hosseil Louise was the one who

550
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:12.800
killed her and dismembered her. Yeah, okay. And then on top of

551
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:16.639
that, Joseil Louise was also linked
to the murder of a sex worker whose

552
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:22.239
name, sadly is not known.
And you know, This is the terrible

553
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:25.440
thing about a lot of these serial
killers. Will this will be their first

554
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:32.519
like victim they go for because these
murder their murders are widely ignored, or

555
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:36.360
they don't know who they are because
they move so many times. Sometimes they

556
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:39.960
just go by a certain name.
So he was linked to her murder and

557
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:45.239
she was found dismembered at a dump
site too. Wow, so like another

558
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:50.719
connection. While in jail, Hossel
Louis refused to plead guilty or not guilty.

559
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:53.840
And then two months after his arrest, he was found dead in his

560
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:59.760
cell. Oh he When they found
him, he was hanging by a belt.

561
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:04.679
Oh wow. It was ruled suicide, but it was likely a murder.

562
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:08.079
He was murdered by other inmates.
Fellow inmates. Oh yeah, Hossel

563
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:14.360
Louise was not suicidal at all.
He was excited to write his autobiography titled

564
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:19.599
Oh my God, the Cannibal Poet. Oh my God. Also we are

565
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:22.360
title for someone who insisted that they
never ate anyone. Yeah. Can we

566
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:28.679
count that as a confession? I
say yes, right, yeah. And

567
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:34.840
his body had signs of sexual assault
and oh god, his standardles had been

568
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:38.000
dismembered. Oh my god, Wow. So I don't know this rule of

569
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:45.719
the suicide. I mean yeah,
there's no way no, but that's what

570
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:52.320
happened. And a total of ten
murders would be linked to Hostel Louise.

571
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:58.039
Ten murders yeah, ten, a
total of ten wow, so seven more

572
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:04.719
possible victim aside from the three that
were mentioned or more known, but either

573
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:08.960
way, none of it could be
confirmed except Alexandra Wow, because he he

574
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:14.119
died. Yeah. And you know, in the end, the ones who

575
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:16.480
suffer the most, who doarted,
left with no answers, with nothing,

576
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:22.719
no no when to, I mean, no accountability, no justice was hand

577
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.320
in the end. Right are the
victims they never got closure? Yeah?

578
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:30.440
I think families, Yeah, but
for a lot of people at least knowing,

579
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:36.079
yeah, having a definitive answer.
Yeah right, but yeah, there

580
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:42.480
was never nothing because he killed himself
or was writered. Yes, and uh

581
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:49.440
yeah that is the cannibal poet of
Sudad, Mexico. Wow. Very disturbing,

582
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:53.039
very indeed. Yeah, you might
have heard it years of Bailey Syrian,

583
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:58.360
Oh, I think you're right,
Yeah, this whole time. I

584
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:00.880
remember where I heard it. I
think it was Yeah, I heard it.

585
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:05.159
But there was also things missing,
like she never says Alejandra's name,

586
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:12.000
she doesn't mention the well, she's
not the best at details. No,

587
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:16.320
no, no, what else was? Oh the relationship with uh Juan Carlos.

588
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:20.639
That's why I didn't know about that. Yeah, that was not in

589
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:23.840
there either. That was in the
all the articles in Spanish. Ah,

590
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:32.119
no wonder advantage here bi lingual Yeah
yeah, but yeah, terrible terrible case.

591
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:39.880
Yeah yeah that is mm hmm very
disturbing. Yes, and that brings

592
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:45.440
us to the end of the episode. Oh run, yeah, well,

593
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:49.920
do you have any spooky recommendations before
we go? No, I've still been

594
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:54.360
rewatching Supernatural. Oh nice. Yeah, I actually don't have one either,

595
00:44:54.519 --> 00:45:00.039
because I have been rewatching Bones.
Oh my god, I haven't watched Bones

596
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:04.639
in so long. Yeah, I
don't know. I think I came across

597
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:09.960
like a random ass like edit.
You know how people do these edits of

598
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:15.440
like actors and they're just like,
yeah, yeah, so they're on Twitter.

599
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:22.320
One came up that's someone made on
TikTok the show. Yes, yeah,

600
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:23.760
and I was like, oh,
Bones, and so I have been

601
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:30.519
just watching that non stop spoiler spoiler
alert, but it's also years old.

602
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:34.920
But I cannot did you wrap my
head around what they did to Zach.

603
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:37.719
No, first Zach, Yeah they
did to Zach, and then what they

604
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:40.599
did to Sweets, because that's where
I stopped watching. I didn't watch after

605
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:45.639
Sweets. I don't I didn't watch
after Sweets either. Yeah, so I

606
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:50.079
don't know if I'm good. I
love Sweets. There's also a random I

607
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:53.079
didn't notice it the first time I've
watched it, but there's a Freaks and

608
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:58.280
Geeks like show, not shadow,
but like a little nod to it.

609
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:02.280
Really, when Sweets is first into, they're saying his name, and then

610
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:07.119
we hadn't watch Gigs yet, No, we hadn't. Yeah, the booth

611
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:12.000
is saying like his name, and
he's like doctor Geeks, doctor Freak Sweets.

612
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:15.559
My bad, it's doctor Sweets.
Oh my god, it's so obvious.

613
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:22.239
Yeah. Wow yeah, yeah,
So I've been watching that, and

614
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:24.079
uh, while we've been on our
break, I've also had a chance to

615
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:29.360
play Stardoo Valley a little bit.
Okay, I was gonna say I started

616
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:31.159
gaming again, and then by gaming, I mean I've been playing my farming

617
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:38.519
simulator Stardoo Valley. Wow. So
yeah, that's why I have no speaking

618
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:44.679
recommendations because in my free time,
I've been playing Stardoo Valley and watching boons.

619
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:47.400
You know, I started reading A
Gone Girl. I know it's years

620
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:51.880
old at this point, yeah,
but yeah, I started reading that.

621
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:55.800
Speaking of reading, we should we
should record our book club episode. Oh

622
00:46:55.800 --> 00:47:00.000
my god, we finished, We
both finished, but if we were waiting

623
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:04.360
on MJ. But then MJ's life
just kind of went Yeah, it was

624
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:08.480
supposed to be a whistle like a
downhill. Wow, Norman can whistle either,

625
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:13.920
thought about Yeah, MJ just got
really busy. Then she got fotty

626
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:16.920
sick. Her just got sick,
her dad got sick again, wish her,

627
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:21.159
let's send her our best wishes.
But yeah, she was like,

628
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:23.039
I'm not going to finish the book. You guys can record the episode without

629
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:28.960
me, and then I just forgot
about it. Yeah. I will send

630
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:31.960
out the book club questions and then
we'll work on it on recording it.

631
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:39.079
Yeah cool cool, Yeah, I
might have to like do a quick not

632
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:45.360
a reread. Yeah, it's been
so long, it has been so long.

633
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:50.519
And then do you want to plug
anything before we go? Kerman,

634
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:54.920
you know that I do. If
you like history, specifically Latin American history,

635
00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:59.960
that you wish I had learned about
in school or things I don't know,

636
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:01.599
yeah, but things we never learned
about, then you should check out

637
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:07.440
as Unknown. We talk about Latin
American history sometimes, you know, topics

638
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:14.840
that are heavy about war, genocide, colonial ship like that, but sometimes

639
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:20.079
it's also very uplifting stories like protest
dogs in Chile. Yeah, you know,

640
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:28.719
just stories of community power, resistance, resisting the US resistance, Yeah,

641
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:34.159
the US then, yeah, chunknown
anywhere you listen to podcasts like the

642
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:37.519
podcast you're listening to right now,
and if you're into novelas, then check

643
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:42.960
out Novedaito. We are doing a
rewatch of Teresa. We're almost done done.

644
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:45.840
Oh my god, jinks. It's
a it's a good time. It's

645
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:51.079
a fun time. And we also
just introduced a new segment that will become

646
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:58.559
its own podcast once we're done with
Teresa called chronically Online, where Christina usually

647
00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:02.119
tells me about some TikTok stuff that's
viral talk videos whatever since I don't have

648
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:07.679
to talk. Yeah, so we
also talk about different topics that come out

649
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:14.440
of those yes videos and whatnot.
Recently, men and wedding vowels on TikTok.

650
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:16.400
It was a lot of fun.
This is also on YouTube right now

651
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:21.039
that you can find just this segment. But yeah, yeah, it's a

652
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:27.960
lot of fun. So thanks Carmen
for joining me today. Thank you for

653
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:32.039
having me. It's a pleasure as
always, and best wishes and warmers regards

654
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:37.519
to MJ. Yes, as we
await her return. I don't know,

655
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.199
I see, I don't know,
but I loved it. And yeah,

656
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:45.719
everyone else I don't know, watch
out for one of two things when you

657
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:47.960
go to see that Mexico. Watch
out for ghosts on the metro or a

658
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:55.159
kindibalistic serial killer not just hetting his
dead poet. Yeah yes, and stay

659
00:49:55.119 --> 00:50:05.679
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660
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:09.920
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661
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674
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675
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676
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677
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679
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680
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