Frida Sofia and the Tragic Mexico Earthquake

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Hi everyone. This is Christina and
this is MJ. And this is another

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episode of Speaky Tells. We're now
a disaster podcast because today we're talking about

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earthquake or an earthquake not plural.
Well well, well, actually you're right.

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No, I take it back plural. Did you find another earthquake story

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or no? But I feel like
the earthquake we're gonna mention is going to

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bring up another earthquake in the same
place. Yes, yeah, but yeah,

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yeah, we do know, we
do know. I didn't dives to

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super deep into that one, just
kind of like, okay, mentioned first,

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we do have a listener story.
And also MJ's back. Yay,

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I forgot to announce it, although
I access some point it's like too much

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to keep announcing MJ's back. No, I'm going to keep announcing it,

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all right. Yes, and we
have a listener's story. If you have

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a story that you want to send
into the podcast, you can email a

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Spooky toos at gmail dot com.
You can record a voice though and email

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that over or you know, type
it up, whatever whatever you prefer.

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You can leave it on discord.
You can also call the a Spooky hotline.

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There is a voicemailer that I still
have to download and send it to

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you so we can listen to it. Oh, okay, awesome. We'll

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do that next episode though, because
I don't have it ready. It's because

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it's in two parts. Because the
voicemail cuts off. I don't know the

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exact time, but if you like
talk long enough, it it just cuts

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off. Yeah, and that's what
that person did. I think it's like

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two ish minutes or something like that. But okay, so I have to

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download them and put them together just
so that and then send it to you.

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So we'll do that next episode.
But yeah, send us your stories

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please. We love reading them,
hearing them discussing them. Yeah, all

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of the above exactly. This was
sent to via Instagram. That's another option.

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And I think they wanted to stay
anonymous. I feel like that's what

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they said, but I don't remember, but I did it anyway just in

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case. Okay. Oh also,
actually, okay, well, let me

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read this first part and then ask
you if you remember what the story is.

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Okay, So they said, Ah, the Aligante story reminded me about

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something my mom told me once,
And when I read that, I was

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like, what what story was that
I do not remember. Sound familiar to

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me at all? What is what
is Alikanta? Have I heard that word?

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Like I have heard it? You
have? Yeah? Okay, so

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just like a quick google, it's
a city in Spain. But why were

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we talking about Spain? We don't
talk about Spain that much. What if

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they thought we were someone else and
someone else talked about it and they thought

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it was us. It's like,
it's like, I know, but I've

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heard of it. Okay, Well, yeah, let us know when we

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said that. I don't know,
I don't remember. Oh my god,

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I'm so confused. Yeah. Anyway, point is, I don't remember what

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that story was. So if you
could remind us with an episode number that

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would beat, that would be ideal. That would be the ideal situation.

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But yeah, I mean, like
we've said, I'm just dumb. So

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I don't know. I don't know
when we talked about it, but it

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reminded of this listener about a story. So that's what I'm gonna read.

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I'm gonna continue this now. Oh
oh my god, I'm so dumb.

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Is that another word for scorpion?
Oh okay, so let me read this

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next part. So the flowery bush, which didn't really need to be trimmed.

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We had just trimmed it outside the
corridor that led to the patio.

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He found an alkane in there.
It might be let me see. Hold

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on, okay, that would make
sense. Why I've heard of it before?

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Oh I think it's a snake,
and so is it? Why is

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the only thing coming up for me? Is Spain amazed? Just look up

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Alikanta snake. It's a it's a
Mexican snake. Oh my god, and

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it's in it's Wow, I'm embarrassed. Okay, we have talked about snakes.

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Yeah, okay, oh my god, all of this makes so much

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sense. Now should we start the
story so that it flows and maybe not

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confused some of our listeners. Yes, I remember the story now. It

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was the shape shifting oh the snake. Yes, it was the episode and

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I mentioned the bruqua or like that
shape shifted into a snake and like the

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the mom would get sleepy and like
fall asleep. But then the snake's tail

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was in the baby's mouth. Yeah
that's what it was. Engross Okay,

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So yeah, now I will start
this over because now we now we now

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we know, now we have the
contexts the Alegantha story reminded me about something

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my mom told me once while we
lived in Adanum in Mexico. She would

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feel sleepy when it was about time
to nurse. My grandpa was in town

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from Guadalajara, and for some reason
he decided to trim the boogambilia, a

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flowery bush which really didn't need to
be trimmed. We had just done it.

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On the corridor that led to the
patio, he found an aligante in

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there. He grabbed a machetta and
killed it. My mom says creepy stuff

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always happened to her in that house. She would hear all of her china,

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cabinet plates and stuff break, but
would go into the corridor and everything

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was fine. Once she saw a
trail of mist leading outside towards the Bougambilia

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de bush. She also said she
once was outside late at night and she

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could hear my godparent in the street
whistling while on his way back to his

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house. All of a sudden,
everything was silent, no more whistling,

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and my mom had urge to look
upwards towards etzero. She saw three floating

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balls of fire and ran inside to
my sisters and me. The following day,

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she went to my godparents' house and
asked why he had stopped whistling.

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He told her he saw three floating
balls of fire and said he knew those

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were brucas. I have another witch
story from my hometown, but i'll send

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it later. Let me ask my
mom to tell me again so I don't

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get the details wrong. And yeah, please send that story in. We

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love bluecast stories unless we're already received
in. I just didn't don't know,

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but if we haven't, please send
it in. But yeah, that's creepy,

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and I'm so glad that we realized
what story. Yeah, reminded her

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because yeah, that makes it creepier. I don't like it, especially seeing

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a trail of myss also leading towards
it. And that's where like the snake

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was looked like a bad juju or
something. Yeah, yeah, I don't

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like it, but yeah, that
was our story. If you have any

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stories, please send them in before
we get to our topic, because it's

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depressing and disaster related. Uh.
I wanted to ask you, MJ,

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what your TikTok has been looking like
lately, like you're for you page.

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I don't even know how to describe
it. It's not me. That's really

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oh wow, yeah, mo,
mine is mostly either Palestine stuff or this

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like trend going around. I don't
know if you've come across it, but

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it's like a Grinch filter. Oh
I haven't seen that one. Oh you

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haven't seen it? Oh my god, I have to send it to you.

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The first one I came across was, of course I opened I opened

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TikTok on The first thing I see
is the filter I'm talking about. Oh,

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oh, I know there is a
theme. Yes, I have a

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lot of Palestine stuff, but it
hasn't been as often as like the past,

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like last month. But the one
thing that has popped up is book

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talk and all the fucking drama going
on in book talk. Oh yeah I've

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seen that. Yeah yeah, with
the KKK book that came out and the

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MC is a Mexican girl. Yeah, I thought, because I remember on

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Twitter I saw there was like some
drama about like self, someone with self

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publishing a book that was like,
oh you know what, this was another

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problematic book? My bad? What
is going on with authors? There's been

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two problematic books I think this month
or was this month? Yeah, okay,

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because the first one I saw was
like this white woman was writing a

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book about an enslaver and then an
enslaved person falling in love with the enslaver,

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and people were like, hey,
this is super problematic as a white

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person, you should even be writing
like books like this, Like what's your

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problem? And then did they the
author doubled down? Oh my god.

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Uh no, there's there's that.
I haven't heard about that one. But

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there's two more stories, and one
of them's written by like I think to

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latinas. Oh, I have to
look it up. I have to look

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it up. But one of them, one of the like love interests,

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the male love interest heavily does uh
Latino stereotypes, which is like, he

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was a drug dealer, now he's
a gang basis in jail. Is this

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not the American dirt lady? Or
is this no? No, no,

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this is somebody else. Oh,
I guess this is a common thing.

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Oh wait, you said it was
a Mexican author. Yeah, well she's

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no, she's a Latina author.
I think she's Brazilian. Well I don't

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even know if she considers herself Latina, but she her name is Santana Knox

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and the book she published was with
some other girl. So Santana Knox wrote

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a book about I'm on TikToker,
I'm looking up Santana Knox myself, Okay

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n Ox, last name Santana Knox
controversy. So she wrote a book where

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one of the male carriers that the
love interest, I guess I would call

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it. He has a lot of
like stereotypes. And I'm talking about like,

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like I said, he was a
drug dealer and a gang banger and

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just relies heavily on those stereotypes.
And then the other drama is Tilly Cole

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and this is Oh, I'm pretty
sure it's a white woman. Sounds like

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a white woman. Tilly Cole.
Tilly Cole, Yeah, t I L

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Yeah, I co l e from
She's from England. Yeah. So I

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don't know which book it is.
I think Darkness Embraced. I could be

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wrong the book, but anyways,
it's about the love interest isn't a KKK

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guy and Andy the MC is a
Mexican girl and he like this redeeming arc

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and they fall in love and and
I haven't read the book. I heard

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about that, like they did this
too, and the character was Poc.

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But it wasn't until yesterday that I
found out that it was actually specifically a

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Latina Mexican girl. Yeah, so
she wrote this book, and it's just

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like it's gross, Like she's really
romanticizing the KKK and using a woman of

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color in her stories for this redeeming
arcs, because this guy is going to

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redeem himself. Like, get the
fuck out. That's that's what's been on

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my TikTok oh. When Tanner meets
Adelita Quintana, the daughter of the most

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brutal cartel boss in Mexico, the
two are instant enemies but eventually fall in

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love, only to be thrust into
the middle of a war between Adelita's family,

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the KKK, and the Hades.
Hangman, it is some shit Tanner's

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motorcycle gang. Sorry, this man
is a member of the KKK and he

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has a motorcycle gang. The fuck
is going on? Yeah? Can you

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have both? I don't know,
but it's so problematic. And then also

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the other thing, the other drama
that I found out recently, this was

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like about like a month ago,
was that there's white women who who author

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poc led books, Like you know, the MC is a personal color.

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Yeah, they use names that are
like racially ambiguous, so they kind of

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present themselves to the author as like
they're trying to pretend to be POC authors,

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but they're actually just white women that
are using a pen name. Oh

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and they're yeah, but it's like
crazy, so they they write books in

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the first person of a person of
color, right, And you know when

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when you have people who are leaning
towards reading more books that are generated with

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they're looking for like diverse books,
thinking that they're written by diverse authors,

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but they're nope, nope, it's
just white women writing. And and oh

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and then like they use stereotypes.
Yeah, it's like her her chocolate skin,

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some shit like colored skin embrace.
I don't even know, Like I

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don't know, some shit like that. But like I was like, you

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guys, you have to be really
careful about who you're buying books from and

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who you're We had a spicy soul. Yeah, and then like oh and

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then what was it? What was
it? It was Wednesday Books. I

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think it's called in their parent company. One of their employees uh tweeted like

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some racist shit, like racist shit, islamophobic shit, and the company has

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not done anything like they have like
people will forget It's how like TikTok book

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TikTok, or you are like embedded
into book talk. I am not.

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I just started seeing stuff about the
second book drama that you just mentioned,

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but not anything else. Listen,
book talk is so much drama. I

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don't really engage with it as much
except for like when I need a book.

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But that's really right, because like
I still struggle to read through our

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reading list because I'm so busy.
But like in the rare moments that I

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do finish a book really early,
I'm like, let's see what book talk

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recommends, and it's nothing but fucking
drama all the time. Don't get me

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wrong, She's most signed. I
fucking love it. I love it.

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Yeah, but I'm like, damn
drama, monny man. My my TikTok

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is all either stuff about supporting Pala
sign or that Grinch filter that I just

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sent you or people I mentioned it
last episode, But there's like this what

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is her? I don't know her
name, but she does this all the

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time. It was just like,
oh, did you look at the message

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the filter? Isn't it so good? You need to find the one with

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there's a baby and a mom,
but also the one I just send you

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is one of my favorite ones.
But yeah, that Grinch filter has been

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uh make me laugh so much,
A little too much that. And then

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there's the one I mentioned last episode
where actually it wasn't a blanket. I

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think it was like a shirt that
she's wearing and it has between made on

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it, and she's like, oh, I love her sol Yes, so

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that's her name, Mamita. Oh
my god. That's been stuck in my

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head. And then on top of
I'm just getting I've just been getting people

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taking that sound and like redoing it. But also there's a video I don't

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know who it was, singing like
on this December twelve, and she's like,

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it's so funny. I have to
send you that video too, But

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yeah, that's all that's all I've
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She's so funny. And then she
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yesterday a TikTok and her doing a
British accent and it's so good. Really,

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I have to look that one.
I got to find it. But

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she's so funny. I love her, love it, love it. But

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that's been stuck in my head the
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The Grinch. So good anyway,
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something lighter before we talk about something
depressing. Mm hmmm. I will put

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time stamps so for the people that
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yeah, today we're talking about the
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we can't talk about that earthquake without
mentioning the nineteen eighty five earthquake and then

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the phenomena of like Nino's phantasmas ghost
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because that was strange that like it
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So first I guess I'll just talk
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are more about the story. Yeah, Sophia free that right, or Fida,

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Sophia, I mean her wrong,
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on September nineteenth, twenty seventeen,
at one fourteen pm local time, there

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was a seven point one magnitude earthquake
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twenty seconds, but the initial guesses
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which is way too long. Yeah, it's really long, but twenty

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seconds is a lot a long time. Yeah, it is, especially for

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that magnitude and in case anyone needs
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magnitude is the size of the earthquake. There's about ten to fifteen earthquakes with

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that like from seven to seven point
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the world, like worldwide. And
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like so eight between eight and ten, those only happened one to three

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one and two magnitude earthquakes that happen
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can I feel them? Yeah,
you can't feel them? And like what's

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it called the Iceland? I think? Or Greenland? No, I think

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it's Iceland. Is like went through
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one day, no way, and
like they're yeah, and then they had

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to be evacuated because they're volcanoes about
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last episode I also mentioned that I
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They're so unhinged h and they quote
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why I know about it. Yeah. Yeah, but they have like I

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think anywhere between one thousand and two
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day. It was like damn strong
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the I believe it's an Iceland.
I want to say it's an Iceland.

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Could be wrong somewhere, don't quote
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over there in that area, like
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I'd be like, dude, I'd be

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shitting myself so hard, like you
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Wow. No, I didn't know
that. So Mexico is one of the

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world's most seismically active regions, which
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the most in like simple terms,
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one, like several tectonic plates that
on top of them being tectonic plates,

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they also intersect with each other.
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forty earthquakes a day, but the
majority are not noticeable. For this earthquake,

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though, the one that happened on
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epicenter, so where the earthquake was
the strongest, where it originated or whatever,

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that was located thirty four miles south
of Pueblan, and it caused damage

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in Puebla, Morellos and Mexico City, but the most damage happened in Mexico

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City. And there's several reasons why
that was, which we'll get into.

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When that's like you can blame on
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like Mexico City was built on top
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like it's just too soft, apparently, And that's why earthquakes are more destructive

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on top of like the errors of
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corners when rebuilding from yeah, and
building in general, and jet yeah,

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building in general. So what's even
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place on the anniversary of the destructive
nineteen eighty five earthquake, And every year

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on the anniversary of this earthquake,
there's a National Earthquake drill that happens,

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and then I think in the past, like, oh god, it was

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happening twenty seventeen, there was an
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or the same day again, and
then like yeah, there's always like been

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like small earthquakes happening around September.
Yeah, I know, two months before

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this one there was another kind of
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was it two months. It might
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been like two weeks, which is
worse. But yeah, well, yeah,

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there's just quite a bit and it's
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there's an earthquake. Yeah, and
this one, the one on September

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nineteen, twenty seventeen, took place
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do every year of the anniversary.
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hundred No, I'm not gonna say
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seventy five mile as from Mexico City, but that's where the most damage happened,

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but other places, like morel were
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SaaS mex Earthquake Warning System. It's
supposed to alert people that the earthquakes happening,

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to get them to what they learned
on the drills, like you know,

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get under a table, or oh, oh, the same thing happens

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here. Now. The other day
there was an earthquake, not the other

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day, I think was either last
month. I'm pretty sure it was last

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month in September that there was an
earthquake and Sacramento I heard it was a

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pretty big one, but you know, our our infrastructure is pretty good.

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Bay Area and our the phones went off.

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But the fucking phone alarm that the
the emergency alarm on the phone is

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a lot more scarier than the earthquake. I like die, Like my soul

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left my body. I was like, phone trying to kill me. But

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then they're like, hide under tables. Oh is that what it sounds like?

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I've never heard it. It sounds
like a what is it called?

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Like an amber alert? It's exactly
almost exactly sounds like an amber alert.

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But it scares the shit out of
you, right, And it's like the

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buildings here are pretty safe, right
because they're they're they're meant to withstand earthquakes.

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sound is a lot more terrifying than

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the earthquake. Oh my god,
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that shit scared the crap out of
me. There was an earthquake though in

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September. I love when people barely
moved to California and then there's like tiny

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ones that nobody even talks about it, and then you just see post them.

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Could you feel the earthquake? Yeah, it's like, dude, that

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was under five Plubi one come down. Yeah, like you're woken up from

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bed because the bed is shaking and
your stuff were falling over. Then it's

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not a big and no, like
the worst thing it did was like the

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one that we had in September was
like it vibrated the windows a little bit.

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But I'm like, dude, somebody
blasting music does that too? Does

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that? Yeah? And then like
the head of my shower shook and like

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some water like fell out, and
I was like, Okay, that's nice.

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Yeah. The SASMEX, the warning
system is supposed to was supposed to

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give Mexico City twenty seconds advanced in
warning, which is not a lot,

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but like I think in terms of
like maybe finding somewhere to stay safe.

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Any second advantage is better than nothing. Yeah, so that's what it's supposed

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to do. Give at least twenty
seconds advance of twenty seconds morning, I

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advanced in Wow, why can't I
phrase this sentence whatever? Yes, you

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know what I'm saying. Yeah,
twenty second morning. Yeah. Yeah,

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apparently that's not what happened. It
was only like two seconds or during the

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earthquake itself, like as it was
already happening. I don't think people understand

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how fast earthquakes happen, Like even
having like a twenty second window is a

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law, but I doubt they could
reach that goal because earthquakes happened very very

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fast. I see, So I
wouldn't even have mattered. I feel like

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in some cases, I guess it
depends because I feel like depending on the

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surface level or like where exactly the
earthquake happened, like you could feel it

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more, feel it less, like
how deep in crust. I don't know

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how that works. So maybe you
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then it's like you don't have time. I see. Also, some

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residents mistook that alert the actual alert
for the drill that had been happening the

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anniversary drill, although places like wahaka
A, Capuco, Chiban, Singo,

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Puebla, some of them had like
forty eight seconds warning, which seems preferable.

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Oh that's good. Yeah. None. Yeah. In Puebla, the

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earthquake collapsed a church that was on
the slopes of our favorite volcano. I

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just love saying that name. I
still struggle with it. But when this

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church collapsed, it killed fifteen people. And then there was a second church

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that collapsed not far from there,
and this one killed eleven people, including

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a baby. That was Puebla,
Mexico City. However, four buildings collapsed.

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Oh geez, I remember that.
Yeah, a lot and people were

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trapped inside. There was large large
like dust, I don't know, dust,

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uh, clouds, yes, and
also fires that started happening because of

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all the destruction and dust and all
that, and several buildings caught on fire

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like Lasa. Also, did you
did you ever watch House of Flowers?

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No? Oh my god, I'll
tell you guys, I don't really watch

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TV. Okay, well what I
do. It's like my comfort ones,

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which is like the Twilight Zone and
stuff like that. Next to the Twilight

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Zone and Xbile, the other one
X files well, I did watch House

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of Flowers and I accidentally started talking
like what are the characters? No,

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I feel that because I pick up
accents. Yeah, because Carmen, me

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and my mom, we kept talking
like her because we thought she had this

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funny accent she put on. Paulina
de la Mora is the character's name,

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and she has this accent that's just
so fun, and so I actually started

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talking like her. But that that
actress was hurt during this earthquake. Oh,

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just to like give people an idea, because I'm sure there's people out

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there that watched it, but you
should watch it. It's it's pretty funny.

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Well, is it on vix because
that's where I watch a lot of

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my Spanish stuff. No, no, this is on Netflix. Oh okay.

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The most damage happened on Alvaro Obregon
Avenue and then Amsterdam Avenue as well

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as the Philippine Embassy was pretty damaged. Also. Obviously, people like lost

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power, like I think it said
four million people wow lost power, and

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Guerrero, Mexico State wuhakaala and then
Mexico City itself because that's where the most

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damage happened. But like during these
kind of like disasters on Mexico comes together

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pretty fast to rescue people, and
there was also worldwide help in like rescuing

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Carter and I have an episode on
his studias Unknown about the beautiful, brave

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rescue dog Frida, because we have
an episode about like historic dogs, and

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Frida played a big role in finding
people during the earthquake to the destruction of

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the earthquake, and she's she's a
cute dog. A rest in peace passed.

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Oh yeah, like the several years
ago. Now I want to say

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they had a whole military military funeral
for her. I'm pretty sure. Yeah,

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yeah, precious, precious dog.
Okay, So in Morellos, seventy

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four people died. In Mexico City
two hundred and twenty people died a lot

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Guerrero six people, and then one
percent in Wahaka, and then in Mexico

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City, I think, what what
are the buildings that affected people the most

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or like was the most like impact
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the school what is the name of
the school? Was it Monterrey Institute of

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Technology and Higher Education? Was that
the one? Or was that no?

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No, no, Enrica Henriquet,
Yeah, it's Enrique Salmon's school collapsed and

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there was twenty six students and for
instrum. Actually you're going to talk a

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little bit more about that, so
I won't get into that. But that

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was it. So that school collapsed, and then there was a high school

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that also collapsed. Wow. And
yeah, like I think six thousand people

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were injured, almost you know,
almost three hundred were killed. So then

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there was an investigation that the next
month, in October twenty seventeen, that

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like they wanted to figure out,
like, why was there more damage here?

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More damage than there should have been? Right? And so apparently this

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investigation revealed that since twenty twelve,
there have been over six thousand complaints about

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construction violations in Mexico City. Wow. Yeah, and with no records if

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anyone followed up on those complaints.
And many of the buildings mentioned in the

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complaints were the ones that collapsed.
Wow. Local activists started protesting because they,

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you know, were claiming that the
construction system was totally corrupt. Developers

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often skipped regulations, authorities ignored complaints. One one building owner, actually the

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owner of I think the school,
the elementary school, Monica Garcia Villegas,

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was found guilty. She was prosecuted
for culpable homicide and she was found guilty

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in twenty twenty because she ignored safety
regulations which caused the building to collapse.

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And I believe she might have been
the only one that has been prosecuted for

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this. Oh my god, the
only one. But yeah, yeah,

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yeah, you would think there'd be
more people. Oh Cecila Suarez, that's

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the actress from the show that I
mentioned, the House of Flowers that was

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injured. They were filming the episode
the show when the earthquake happened, and

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was she was injured during the earthquake. But yeah, I mean, like

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more more people were hurt than should
have they should have been because of the

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like skipping cutting corners to save money, ignoring people's complaints, rebuilding oh my

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god, buildings with like the same
material that had been stop it. Yeah

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yeah, like the damaged buildings.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. They

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began building with the same materials almost
a lot of places, which made everything

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obviously worse. Yes, And it's
also like brings up a topic that I

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wrote my notes, but I remember
a while back, was the discussion between

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like British people who are like,
oh my god, American houses are so

406
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:08.799
flimsy and made out of wood.
And I'm like, well, I live

407
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:14.599
in California. If we have an
earthquake, a brick building would crush us.

408
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:20.720
Wood is yeah, you hide under
table. Yeah. And then Mexico

409
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.680
that was I think probably another problem
because a lot of things are still made

410
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:27.839
with like clay and stone over there, No, Yeah, a lot of

411
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.799
comer a lot of yeah. Concrete, yeah, which from what I remember,

412
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:36.119
the school that collapsed or one of
them, had a lot of these

413
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:42.039
like huge concrete slabs, which is
one of the leading causes of the deaths

414
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:45.640
of so many and the reason it
collapsed. It's just not earthquake proof and

415
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:49.880
not even like wood buildings are.
But like, if you think about it,

416
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:53.079
concrete slab falling on top of you
versus like a wood wouldn't beam,

417
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:59.160
you'd probably survive, have a higher
chance of surviving a wooden thing falling on

418
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:01.119
you than you would conte. But
it always like blows my mind that people

419
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:05.799
are like, why don't you make
materials that last fur It's like because we

420
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:09.079
live on a fault line, A
bunch of fault lines, A bunch of

421
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:15.079
fault lines, Like have you seen
the movies what does it called? Yeah?

422
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:19.680
And I've seen San Andrea's fault.
It is It's huge. It like

423
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:25.640
just it feels like it goes on
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doing that. So the girl who
never existed Frida Sophia, And as you

441
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:58.480
said, on the nineteenth of September
twenty seventeen, there was a massive earthquake

442
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:01.519
and it was a devastating. But
as soon as like the people felt the

443
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:06.760
earthquake and they saw like what happened
to the school, people just were like

444
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:12.320
running to help the people trapped inside. You know. It led to a

445
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:16.400
huge talk as Christina went over over
the infrastructure, but people really came together

446
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:20.599
at the time, like the community, and as soon as this happened,

447
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:25.679
they started trying to remove debris and
all that stuff. So within the twenty

448
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:29.639
four hours of the earthquake, reports
of a girl who had been trapped inside

449
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:32.400
the robble began to emerge. It
is not known who started the rumors,

450
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:37.159
but Televisa was the first to air
the story. The reporter for te Levisa

451
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:43.960
Danielle diurb diuribe, I don't know
these, it's d I t h u

452
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.400
r I b E. I think
it's the Thuribi said that the information had

453
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:52.800
come from the rescue teams. Danielle
was the only reporter at the time who

454
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:55.519
was given access to the scene,
and according to her, she was told

455
00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.199
by the rescue team that with a
thermal scanner they had found a twelve year

456
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:05.360
old girl trap under the rubble.
The rescue team had made contact with her

457
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.920
and her name was Frida Sophia,
and that the rescuers was holding the last

458
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:12.840
name. Why would they do that? Yeah? Red flag number one.

459
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:17.760
Yeah. Danielle later began to interview
rescuers, and one in particular, name

460
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.239
Atermio, said in the interview that
he had heard the voice of the girl.

461
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:24.800
He went on to say, yes, some very faint voices of the

462
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:29.400
girl, apparently called Sophie. He
went on to say that he asked her

463
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:34.039
her name and she replied Sophie,
Sophie. The Associated press had a similar

464
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:37.880
story given to them by another rescuer, and according to Danielle, another rescuer

465
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:44.039
named Raoul Rodrigo Ernandez Ayella had said
that the girl is alive, and she

466
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.320
has vital signs. I don't know
how they knew she had vital signs,

467
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:52.840
considering right. Televisa went on to
report that five children had been found alive

468
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:57.920
in the basement of the school,
and according to that same report, the

469
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:01.239
day after the earthquake on Wednesday,
rescue workers had seen the girl trapped under

470
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:05.360
the rubble. She was asked to
move her hand if she could hear them,

471
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:07.280
and she did, and a rescue
doug was sent in to confirm she

472
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:10.960
was alive. From here, the
story grew and it was a trending hashtag

473
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:15.480
on Twitter, hashtag freda Sofia.
Yeah, people like, I guess because

474
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:17.519
it was like a story of hope, like, oh, let's save this

475
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:24.559
girl. People really like threw themselves
into yeah save that Sofia. Yeah.

476
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.760
So it was a yeah, it
was a huge thing. Yes, And

477
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:31.599
I don't think I was. I
was on Twitter, I like, I

478
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:35.639
had an account at the time,
but I wasn't on Twitter, you know

479
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:37.880
what I mean when it happened.
Yeah, I just remember all the news

480
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:43.599
outlets were posting about it same same. So by Thursday, many of the

481
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:45.960
rescuers were under the assumption that the
girl was alive, under the rubble.

482
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:51.440
There was also footage captured by a
news station where a rescue worker was asking

483
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.960
another to dig and being told what
area to look for the girl. Because

484
00:37:54.039 --> 00:38:00.119
journalists were not allowed on site,
they got their information from rescue workers and

485
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:04.960
not from government officials. Soon after, government officials began to tell the same

486
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.599
story that Frida Sofia was under the
rubble and there was a rescue mission to

487
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:14.119
find her. That same morning,
Navy officer, I think it says Admiral

488
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:22.079
adm oh Like a rank eightm Yeah, Josse Luis Vergara had told Televisa that

489
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.760
there was in fact a girl trapped
inside, but couldn't find her location and

490
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:30.000
didn't know how to get to her. The Navy soon then recounted their statem

491
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:34.000
and said that eleven children had been
rescued from the rubble. Nineteen bodies of

492
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.719
both children and adults were recovered,
but no other child was believed to be

493
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:44.199
trapped. They did find the body
of another adult on Sunday. Navy Assistant

494
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:49.280
Secretary anhel Enrique sar Ramienthal said,
we want to emphasize that we have no

495
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:52.079
knowledge about the report that emerged with
the name of the girl. We never

496
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:57.119
had any knowledge about the report and
we do not believe. We are sure

497
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:01.280
it was not a reality. I'm
like one of your officials in the opposite

498
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:07.440
but okay. Saramento said that a
thermal camera was lowered into the rouble,

499
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.920
but it only detected blood and the
only person that was missing was a fifty

500
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.760
eight year old woman who was an
employee at the school. Her body was

501
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:20.880
removed that Thursday after the earthquake.
It was believed that it was this woman

502
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:25.280
whose hands the rescuers saw At the
time. Workers were using the help of

503
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:30.079
a rescue dog named Frida, which
many think is where some of the confusion

504
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:36.480
came from. The Navy later apologized
for the report that was given by Jossel

505
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:40.119
Luis Vergara. They said that they
were relying on information provided to them by

506
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:45.480
the rescuers. This mismanagement of reporting
has had many people angry, and rightfully

507
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:51.159
so. There has also been several
conspiracy theories that have emerged from this,

508
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:54.920
and one of them is that because
there were elections that were about to happen,

509
00:39:55.320 --> 00:40:00.320
they used this ploy by the government
and the current president parties to garner

510
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:06.559
sympathy and also to show like a
force of leadership. I am unsure how

511
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:08.440
this came to be, but I
also think it has a lot to do

512
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:15.280
with people witnessing something horrific and together
having this trauma responsive confusion, Yeah for

513
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:21.079
sure, plus like wanting something hopeful
to latch onto. Yeah, and you

514
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:24.960
know, after especially after saying like
digging up kids, like that's yeah,

515
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:29.599
fucked, that's fine. Yeah,
it's just like I mentioned this last episode,

516
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:34.840
but I just can't help but to
keep being reminded of the terrible videos

517
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:38.840
coming out of Gaza and like the
people and children and I mean everyone being

518
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:42.440
pulled out of the rubble. But
yeah, like, yeah, of course

519
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:49.239
they want to find someone alive down
there, so like wish we'll thinking hope

520
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:53.239
to latch onto. I'm not surprised
that it happened during this earthquake and nineteen

521
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:58.000
eighty five also, yes, okay, so that being said, I could

522
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.039
have sworn I seen a face poking
out from the hole in one of the

523
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:05.519
rubble of a little girl during a
news segment. Yeah, and it makes

524
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:08.920
you wonder that they doctor that image. Yeah, But like the weird thing

525
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:14.320
is it was like it wasn't even
reported on by the news media. It

526
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:16.199
was like just fans being like,
oh my god, rewind that I saw

527
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:21.239
something? Oh no, you're right, I remember this. Yeah. Yeah.

528
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:22.800
So it wasn't even the news mea
being like, there's the girl.

529
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.519
It was like people who were watching
the news and be like, what the

530
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:30.039
hell is that in the background.
Yeah, Like they were just talking about

531
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:35.039
it and in the background the video
was playing and like people pausing it could

532
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:37.719
see like, oh my god,
what is that? Right, but like

533
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.239
the anchors themselves, they didn't notice
it. Yeah, yeah, so I

534
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:45.119
remember that, And I did get
a screen recording and now it's very pixelated.

535
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:50.239
I couldn't find the original video or
the original original news reporting of this,

536
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:55.159
but I got a screen grab of
a recording and it's terrible. But

537
00:41:55.760 --> 00:42:00.280
anyways, this is also where things
get a little weird. Story of Frida

538
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:06.039
Sophia also brought me to a story
from nineteen eighty five, and there was

539
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:09.679
an earthquake in Mexico City that year. As Christina went over and they reported

540
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:14.639
on a boy who was missing,
trapped under rubble, and they nicknamed him

541
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:20.119
Monchito. Hundreds of people mobilized and
began searching through the rubble for Monchito.

542
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:23.360
Even after all the rubble was cleared, they never found him, leading people

543
00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:29.000
to believe he never existed. There
were also many theories, and rescuers at

544
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:32.760
the time also recounted that they had
contact with him. His parents, however,

545
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:37.119
had disappeared from the public eye and
have not been seen since. So

546
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:45.880
yeah, suspicious, weird it.
Yeah, did you come across the idea

547
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:49.320
and I never saw it? Or
I haven't seen this about Monchito, but

548
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:52.480
I have seen it about Frida Sofia. But that Frida Sofia was a ghost

549
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:59.679
I have heard of that I have
and I don't like. The one thing

550
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:02.519
that I'm thinking of is like they
thought that the the in the area that

551
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:07.840
they were looking for Frida Sophia they
were also they were they found the late

552
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:10.400
the body of the fifty eight year
old woman. So I'm thinking it's like,

553
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:14.239
you know how a lot of people
say, like you revert to your

554
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:19.199
happiest when you die, or I'm
like, what if that was like her

555
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:23.639
ghost just reverting back to being a
little girl and it was her? Yeah?

556
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:30.559
Maybe, But let me tell you
about a TikTok user. Her name

557
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:34.559
is Lay. Oh my god,
I lay there, I lay there,

558
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:43.000
and she was a lot younger when
the earthquake happened, and so she posted

559
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:47.039
a video. I don't know when
she posted it actually, but she insists

560
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:52.360
in her video that Philadosophia was actually
a ghost and that that ghost of that

561
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:58.119
little girl that is Philosophia, she
had been seeing that ghost since twenty twelve.

562
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:04.840
Oh yes, she's like the news
they were wrong in the sense that

563
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:07.599
they thought it was someone alive.
But Fida Sophia does exist. She's just

564
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:14.280
a ghost. She said the ticktoker
that she lived in a building in front

565
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:22.840
of the schoolba's men and that there
was at least like two or three occasions

566
00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:30.880
where she herself saw Sophia the ghost
as well as a family member of hers.

567
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:35.760
Maybe that's what was captured in the
news segment, right, yeah,

568
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:38.320
yeah, that or like the way
you said that it was the woman who

569
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:45.320
had died and then just she reverted
back into like being a child a child.

570
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:49.719
Yeah, but she's uh the TikToker
she said that or TikTok. I

571
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.679
don't know if she's like an actual
TikToker or she like just posted this one

572
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:54.960
video and then didn't post anything else. I haven't looked at her account because

573
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:59.320
I just came across like an article
about it. So she said that she

574
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:01.960
used to walk her dog super late, like at one or two am.

575
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:07.559
Oh my god, Like why you're
just begging to see something in those hours,

576
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:14.079
I know, especially like in Mexico, it's like there's so many creepy

577
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:17.280
shit there, like you do not
go out unless you absolutely have to.

578
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:22.719
Yeah, during one of those walks, she came across a girl as like

579
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:29.239
a translucent girl in white, and
that was Philosophia, And I guess she

580
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:32.159
had also seen her in her like
apartment building, like in the hallway as

581
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:37.320
well in between like the I guess
she's had a long hallway and then there

582
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:40.800
was like a fountain at the end
of the hallway and they've seen her,

583
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:46.079
and like her family has seen Philosophia
there too. She she came out and

584
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:51.800
was like saying that it's actually it's
real, the ghost of a girl.

585
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:53.760
But she she was real, So
I don't know, I don't know,

586
00:45:54.199 --> 00:46:00.400
that's creepy. But also did you
know that do you remember the legend of

587
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:04.760
La Planchada. Yes, Okay,
so there's a version of the legend where

588
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:09.039
Laplanchada the nurse and I guess just
a cook reminder for anyone that doesn't remember.

589
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:15.840
But the legend of Laplanchada is that
in hospital quarrees and squares, this

590
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:22.239
nurse like loved this doctor and then
he got married to someone else and she

591
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:28.119
was like jealous, and then she
began like mistreating her patients and then like

592
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:32.440
killed herself in guilt and then now
comes back. And there's some versions of

593
00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:36.559
the legend where she's like evil,
but there's other versions where she comes back

594
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:38.679
and just helps people in the hospital. Yeah, but there's a version of

595
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:44.159
the legend that says that she died
during the nineteen eighty five earthquake. She

596
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:46.719
was a nurse in the hospital when
the hospital collapsed, and the hospital did

597
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:51.800
collapse, and people you know,
did die in the hospital, including nurses

598
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:55.079
and patients and doctors. So one
version of the legend is that she was

599
00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:59.360
one of those nurses and now she
comes back still like helping people in the

600
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:05.639
afterlife, which I did not know
that version at all. It's all connected,

601
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:10.480
yeah, yeah, so a couple
of couple of ghosts attached to these

602
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:17.559
earthquakes. And there's also an urban
legend that Mexico. I don't remember if

603
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:22.920
it's all of Mexico, Mexico or
just Mexico City is cursed and that there's

604
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.840
an earthquake, like a devastating earthquake
every thirty years. Have you heard that

605
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:30.360
one? No? I have not. Oh yeah, yeah, So apparently

606
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:38.639
in the years nineteen eleven, nineteen
thirty two, nineteen fifty seven, nineteen

607
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eighty five, and then twenty seventeen, we're all devastating earthquakes in stud that

608
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:49.840
Mexico were like more than seven point
zero in magnitude and like a lot of

609
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:53.559
deaths. Wow, I had no
idea. Yeah, yeah, so if

610
00:47:54.400 --> 00:48:00.719
that it's if that's true, then
the next one is would be I can't

611
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:07.760
do mathul. I'm with my calculator. I feel that thirty twenty forty seven,

612
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:13.519
twenty forty seven. Wow. Yeah. I hope they're prepared by them,

613
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:17.599
hopefully, hopefully. I'm curious to
see if there will be another ghost

614
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:22.880
child. That is so weird though
that it happened twice, right, and

615
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:28.639
it made news twice because there was
newspapers of the little boy who was missing

616
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:35.079
in the eighty in eighty five.
Yeah, certainly strange, but yeah,

617
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:37.280
I guess that brings us to the
end of this episode. Do you have

618
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:42.840
anything else to add about the earthquake. No, I think that's all okay.

619
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:45.000
Oh, actually I do have one
more thing to add about the earthquake.

620
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:49.719
After it happened. So it happened
in September. And I was in

621
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:53.719
Guada Dajaa in October twenty seventeen and
there was a game. I don't remember

622
00:48:53.760 --> 00:49:00.599
who they were playing or what if. It was like a friendly game,

623
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:06.199
but it was like Mexico versus another
country, like it was like a national

624
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:13.920
game. There was a moment of
silence during during the game for the earthquake

625
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:19.280
and all like all the victims of
the earthquake, and uh, it was

626
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:21.800
like so emotional. I was crying
like a little bait, like a little

627
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:29.239
baby during the moment of silence.
My my grandpa rest in peace, was

628
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:34.559
still alive and so and he like
he you know, loves soccer and we

629
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:37.199
were like all watching the game and
he was there with He normally is always

630
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:43.559
raining like an Atlas jersey, but
he brought out his Mexico jersey for that

631
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:46.679
and he stood up during the moment
of silence and he's like because he always

632
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:51.000
coughs instead of crying. Instead of
crying, he starts coughing, so he

633
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:53.039
was like, and every time I
hear him do that, then I start

634
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:58.480
crying and so it was Yeah,
it was emotional. But but yeah,

635
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:04.719
that's all I was gonna add about
the earthquake. But yeah, before we

636
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:08.039
go, first I want to say
sorry to all the patrons for being behind

637
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:13.360
on so much. Oh yes,
I'm sorry. We are sorry. We

638
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:19.280
will get back to it soon.
Not this week, but m maybe next

639
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:23.840
week. Yeah, maybe maybe we'll
see. I will make stickers though this

640
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:27.400
week, I think, and send
them out. But yeah, we're like

641
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:31.320
behind on episodes. I did record. I'm behind on everything life life is

642
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:36.880
like. I recorded one with Carmen, a Patroon episode okay in October,

643
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:39.719
so there was a monthly episode.
And yeah, well, before we go,

644
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:47.159
do you have any recommendations spooky or
anything. I'm saying anything now since

645
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:52.159
you don't watch anything or you haven't
watched anything, I don't want. Yeah.

646
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:55.159
The only thing I've watched is the
Twilight Zone, but the old one,

647
00:50:55.280 --> 00:51:00.440
like the original one, and that's
if you guys want to rewatch that.

648
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:07.159
They have a pretty lengthy episode like
list, there's a lot of episodes.

649
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:12.440
Even though there was I think only
like five seasons each each season had

650
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:17.360
like a lot, so it's gonna
take you a minute while through. Yeah,

651
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:23.400
Like I mean, I started rewatching
it like maybe six months ago and

652
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:28.599
I'm still I'm barely like an episode
two. But I don't really watch TV,

653
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:31.320
so they're sad. Yeah, but
it takes. It takes a while.

654
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:35.840
Like we will watch an episode,
maybe two episodes, just three episodes

655
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:38.039
a week if that, if we
get a chance, but yeah, I

656
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:44.800
don't really, but for those like
binging, there's several days worth of episodes,

657
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:50.440
maybe like a month even probably like
a month. Yeah. Wow,

658
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:57.800
Well I have been watching the Twin
Flames documentary on Netflix, and that is

659
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:00.079
wild. I did. I haven't
even heard this and tell you guys,

660
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:06.480
you haven't looked you Oh wow,
I don't watch anything. Yeah, Twin

661
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:09.199
Flames is like this cult tea.
Well, no, it is a cult.

662
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:15.239
The Twin Flames University itself is a
cult. And then the idea of

663
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:22.000
a twin Flame and looking or like
new Age believes like I was telling you

664
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:27.920
earlier, like what we were messaging, but that new Age cult to being

665
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:31.159
in a cult pipeline. Oh my
god, it's so real. And that's

666
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:36.199
what happened to a lot of these
people. They were like googling, how

667
00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:40.719
I felt the most intense connection ever? What is this? And then they

668
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:45.480
would google that and then like twin
flames Flame University would pop up and it

669
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:50.639
was run by uh, this guy. Oh my god, is it still

670
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:54.599
run Actually a might still be going
on, but Sheila and I cannot remember

671
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:59.800
the guy's name. They have been
together, I don't know how long.

672
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:04.320
Too long apparently, yeah, too
long. Apparently they've been running this like

673
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:08.920
university to teach others to find their
twin flame because they have found each other.

674
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:15.119
So this means that they're now the
sole authority figure into telling people how

675
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:19.679
to do this, and and they
like talk about God and like all these

676
00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:24.239
godly things, and then like he
people would sign up and like they pay

677
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:30.079
like this insane amount of money for
these classes, different black classes, to

678
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:34.760
like get to know themselves so they
could be like a better partner and then

679
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.360
eventually find their twin flame. That's
called therapy. But then he started,

680
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:42.159
yeah, yeah, right, do
that instead. But then he started telling

681
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:44.480
people like, oh, this is
your twin flame, Like I know it,

682
00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:46.039
this is your twin flame. You
have to be with this person and

683
00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:49.960
basically forcing these two people together.
There was like one girl who was like

684
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:53.599
eighteen, and he told her that
her twin flame was like this guy that

685
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:59.840
was like fifteen years older than her
and who was a felon, and then

686
00:53:59.880 --> 00:54:04.480
he was like abusive. Yeah,
just things like that. It's a wild

687
00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:07.519
documentary. I listened to a podcast
about it a while ago, which is

688
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:12.440
also really good, and it's almost
the same information. Honestly, I think

689
00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:15.119
this documentary might include like a few
newer things. There was this other girl

690
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:20.039
who like thought her twin flame was
her ex and he the guy told her

691
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:22.480
like, yeah, that's your twin
flame. You have to do whatever you

692
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:25.360
can to like be with this person. And then this ended up resulted in

693
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:31.679
her getting like a restraining order placed
on her m m and then she was

694
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:36.880
arrested for violating that restraining order.
Oh my god. You know, following

695
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:43.920
this twin flame mindset that is bonkers. Like yeah, like if you have

696
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:46.079
if someone has to tell you who
your twin flame is, yor not your

697
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:50.239
twin flame, if someone has to
tell you what a twin flame is.

698
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:54.599
The idea of twin flame just isn't
real to me, oh man, But

699
00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:57.960
yeah, you should watch it.
You should watch it. It's good.

700
00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:02.159
That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah,
do you have a book club update?

701
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:08.320
I should be finished reading probably by
this weekend or next for sure. Whoo

702
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:12.639
okay, okay, we're getting close. I'm sorry, guys, I just

703
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:16.760
been I've been busy. I got
injured. My dad had surgery. No,

704
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:22.639
don't even worry. It's called the
book lover Busy people. Life is

705
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:25.880
like it's in the name, you
know, Like I think that I think

706
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:30.719
what was it like? Uh?
The past two weekends was the first two

707
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:34.679
weekends and like I want to say, like four months that I actually got

708
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:37.199
to sleep in. Man. Yeah, it's like, oh my god,

709
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:44.039
is this is this is what it
feels like to get sleep Oh wow,

710
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:47.320
it's rough out here, it is. But yeah, I guess this actually

711
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:52.679
brings us to the end of the
episode. Yes, so stay spooky and

712
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:59.159
I don't know, watch out for
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713
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