Encounters With Nahuales

According to legend, a nahual (or nagual), is a person that can transform into an animal, through magic. They are associated with evil, though prior to colonization, this was likely not the case. On today's episode, Cristina and MJ share different encounters with Nahuales. First, they read a listener story.
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Hi everyone. This is Christina and
this is MJ. And this is another
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episode of a Spooky Tels, the
podcast for all Things a Spooky. Today,
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we have nihalist stories, but before
we start the episode, shout out
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to our patron members. We hit
forty at the time of recording. Of
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course, once in a while we
lose like one or two, and then
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we never quite make it to forty
and stay there. So we'll see,
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we'll see. I have to upload
that episode we record it. I haven't
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done that, but yeah, we
do like one episode a month, sometimes
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two, and then turned out stickers. I just made some really cute ones
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that say no mamis on a little
like. I love them. I know,
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I love these ones. I have
how many extras do I have?
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Four? I'm gonna send you one, one, two, three, four
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or five. I'm holding them right
now. I don't know why anyway.
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Yeah, they're super cute. So
yeah, if you want occasional very cute
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stickers and a one or two bonus
episodes a month where we read Reddit stories
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to each other react to them.
Sometimes they are about other things, other
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you know, legends, places,
things like that, but most of the
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time it's just Reddit stories. Yeah, head on over to Patreon for that.
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And yeah, before we get to
the stories that we have done,
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willist stories that we have for this
episode. I do have a listeners story.
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If you have any stories you want
to send into the podcast, you
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can email at Spooky Tales at gmail
dot com. You can submit it on
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Discord. We have a channel less
to submit your scary story. You can
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what else, call the phone number
in the show notes. I've realized that
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I had been forgetting to put it
in the show notes. I have this
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thing that I just copy and paste
back and forth that's already made, and
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I somehow accidentally deleted it from that. So every time I added in the
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show notes for a new episode,
the phone number wasn't there. Oh no,
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but it is there now, so
yes, it'll be there. You
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can leave a voicemail there all.
A voice memo attached to an email works
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just fine too. That's how we
had the one for a last last episode
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the Brukas stories. So yeah,
all those are options, and yeah,
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send them in. We love receiving
them. Okay, So here's this listeners
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story. My dadd used to live
in this house with his first wife and
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my stepsister when she was a baby. He's a carpenter, so he was
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working on the house. Every time
he was in the basement, he felt
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like someone was watching him. Furniture
would move around. One night, he
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woke up and saw the clothes in
the closet moving, and then he saw
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black eyes and a shadow figure looking
at him from the closet. It yeah,
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yeah, no, It flew out
of the closet and he freaked out
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and threw his blanket on it,
and it disappeared. Happened a few nights
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in a row until one night it
quickly left the room and then came back
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like it was holding a baby.
Oh, and he thought, oh,
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my god, as my daughter,
So he ran to her room, but
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she was sleeping soundly. They didn't
live there that long and ended up selling
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it after he was done working on
it. There was never any paranormal activity
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in the audition he had built.
It has constantly been on the market to
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this day. And years later he
found an old news article about what had
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happened there. A pregnant woman had
killed her twelve year old daughter with an
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axe in the basement and then killed
herself and the unborn baby in the kitchen.
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Oh my god, Oh my god. Wow, wow, oh my
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this explains the figure looking like it
was holding a baby. Yes, this
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whole thing is fucking creepy. Oh
my god. I would have burned down
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the house once I found that information
out, just like commit random arson.
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Even if I wasn't in that area, I would go back, find the
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house, light it on fire,
condemn it. Yeah something. Yeah,
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it's also extra crepi that like it's
on the market and again again and again
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because like nobody wants to live there. Can't blame the girls. Horrifying,
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all right, thank you so much
for sending that in. Yeah, oh
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yes, I don't like it,
like I like it, but I don't
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like it, you know. Okay, So I guess we'll just go take
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turns, like go back and forth. I do one, okay, so
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I'll start with this one. This
is from a YouTube channel called and they
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just share paranormal experiences. People send
them from most of the time Mexico in
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the United States, And this was
submitted by a man named Victor Or Victor
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about named Victor, but we call
him Yiyo. I don't know why is
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that? Like I never understood how
people get the Spanish nicknames. I'm like
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out I have no idea where does
that come from. There's nothing in that
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name that begins with you know,
X, Y and z zeros. Like
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every time I talked to my dad
and he's telling me about people that he
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knew in Salvador, he's like,
oh, I Artas because he had the
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body of a lizard. I'm like, what the fuck he's like? And
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this one he was called like,
I don't know, just outrageous names for
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some reason. I only remember that
one right now, but just names that
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don't make any sense. Yes,
it's not weird. Yeah, just like
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my little cousin when I was over
there like five or six years ago,
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he was like, oh yeah at
school Medicina Lacas because he's so skinny and
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he's like and then there's another kid
who looks Asian, so they just call
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him Elchino or Happones. I don't
even remember which one. Terrible, terrible
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stuff. The one that I remember
is like somebody was called Batman because both
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their parents died. Oh that was
like that I would have been. But
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also at the same time, it's
kind of fun. I love. A
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while back, there was a trend
on TikTok, like people were just sharing
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the ridiculous names that their Mexican parents
called their kids. So I was like,
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Oh, I called my art,
I named my kid. What was
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it? Oh my god, I
think it was. I think I know
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what you're talking about. And I've
seen one of them named Levi and they
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call him Levi's Geans. Yeah,
they call him Jeans. That's what it
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was. That's why. That's why
I was like, I have to think
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of a name that's in Spanish that
like, they can't do this, they
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can't. Yeah. Yeah, because
yeah, if you go out here saying,
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oh my son is Levi, my
name is Gunner, my name it,
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or this name is, I don't
know, all these weird names,
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they're gonna they're gonna come yeah,
and that's your that's your child's name for
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life. Like it doesn't matter what
their legal name is. Their nickname,
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it's the one that everybody's going to
know him by. Yeah. Yeah.
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If anyone has some like ridiculous nick
name like that, please tell me because
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I love hearing them too. I
love when it makes zero sense, like
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like we were just saying, like
it just yeah, so please tell them
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to me. Okay, back to
the story that I never started. This
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was submitted by Victor. So,
according to Victor, he gets up every
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day at six am. He makes
it to work by seven am. On
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his way to work, Victor has
to decide if he's going to take the
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long way or the short way to
the bus stop. So the long path
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through cards Victor to walk a few
miles, while the second path cuts Victor's
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comute by twenty minutes. But he
has to walk through a graveyard. I'm
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going to go the long way every
time. Yeah. Normally Victor takes the
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short path because he walks with a
neighbor to the bus stop. Okay,
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so they're walking into so that's not
that bad. But one day, Victor's
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neighbor had an earlier workshift than him, and so Victor had to go through
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the cemetery alone. He took out
his cell phone to use the flashlight to
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help him see as he walked through, you know, the cemetery alone.
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That's when he spotted what looked like
a man standing at the end of the
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cemetery. Victor quickly pointed his flashlight
at the figure, but it ran away
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and hid between the tombs. Oh
fuck that shit. Curious about what he
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saw, Victor walked towards where he
believed the figure was standing, but found
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nothing. This left Victor confused,
but he decided to continue on to work.
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On a different day, Viktortos walking
to work when he came across an
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animal that looked like a rottweiler.
The animals stood in front of him,
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growled angrily, and did not let
Victor cross. Afraid that the dog would
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bite him, Victoria waited a few
minutes before turning around. Surprisingly, the
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dog did not follow Victor as he
fled. And then again a few days
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later, Victor's walking around nighttime when
he came across A few days later,
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Victoro's walking around nighttime when he came
across what he thought was the same dog.
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He once again got startled and picked
up a rock so he could defend
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himself, but Victor realized that this
wasn't a dog, it was a man
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wearing a hat. The encounter gave
Victor chills as he watched the man moved
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right by him without making a sound
or eye contact. It's like the man
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they didn't even know Victor was there. The man just continued to walk while
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Victor ran as far as he could. Victor's neighbor, though was not as
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lucky. He was found dead in
a cemetery a few days later. Oh
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my god. Victor never found out
what happened to him, but his neighbor
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would always tell tales about a woman
he would encounter in the graveyard while he
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walked to the bus stop. The
neighbor told Victor that he tried to approach
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the women several times but was never
able to catch up. Now Victor avoids
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the cemetery and takes the long path
to the bus stop. He's convinced that
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the man he encountered and the women
his neighbor encountered were both naturalists. M
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No, no, no, no, no suspicious. Uh no, I
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don't like it, and I guess
we should probably explain. And I mean
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we said it several times now,
because we had the werewolf episode from a
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while back. It was like a
one hundred and twelve or something like that.
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I don't know, I pulled that
number out of my ass. It
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could be very wrong. It was
a while ago though, and then before
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that, I think we have an
even older one where we maybe mentioned nawals
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as well. We don't have a
whole episode like on the whole legend and
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stuff, but actually, I think
we talked about them a little bit,
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maybe in the Hit EO episode.
I don't remember. I don't remember,
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but I feel like we've mentioned it, like, yeah, we have mentioned
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them a bunch of times. But
what a naal or naualis are? Oh
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you know what? It wasn't a
Cadico episode that we went into a little
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bit more about nahualist, But basically
it's like a ruko, a sorcerer,
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a shaman, someone with like magical
powers that can shape shift into an animal.
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And I think it was the Werewolf
episode where we found some stories where
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people say, like they're actually not
evil, they're like protectors of the earth,
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right, but you know, after
like Christianity and now like people hear
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the name and like all those things
are evil, like akin to stories of
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those that shall not be named and
indigenous folklore like you know in a certain
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ranch. Yes, if you know, if you get my drift, same
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vibe, same vibe, I think, so yeah, that's what those are.
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So yeah, you have another story, Yes I do, And this
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one is for you guys. I
have a theory and I'm gonna tell it
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at the end, but this is
for a listeners to decide if it is
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or it is not. Okay,
so this is all like on your opinion,
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okay, okay, okay. So
this other this, this story is
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from podcast Extra and Normal, which
is you know, I've been like bingeing
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them for the past like two weeks
and it's my favorite right now. I'm
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obsessed And I got this story from
episode eighty eight and facco On this episode
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has a guest co host with him, as he usually does, and he
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refers to this guest as el doc. Now el doc is is an empty
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and so he goes onto the show
sitting down next to Paco, but he
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has his face covered with sunglasses and
masks and a hat as so yeah,
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so he doesn't want to get fired
from the hospital, but he has stories
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like this whole episode is like crazy
stories he has had as working as an
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empty across in several different cities across
Mexico episodes so like hospital stories. Yeah,
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this reminds me, send us your
hospital stories aren't gone. It's it's
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good. And again if you're a
Spanish speaker, watch because that you could
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watch it on YouTube or listen to
it on a streaming service for a podcast,
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it's it's a really good episode.
So in this story, and Locke
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says he's not sure what he encountered
now while or something else. However,
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at the end of the day,
you know, I have a theory,
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you know. So he was assigned
to a Centro Salus in this pueblo of
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Usila, I think it's Usila and
Centro the Salus is a community health center.
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And this place was so small and
had little to no funding that he
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was the only person who worked at
the center. Didn't have a nurse.
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He did everything. He was a
doctor, the nurse, and the janitor.
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And he says that there was a
committee that was supposed to be in
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charge the health center, but they
neglected it. As per usual, stuff
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like this always happens. The doc
goes on to say, one night,
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a woman around twenty five to thirty
years old went into the community health center
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looking for help. She said that
she went to get help because someone was
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seriously injured. He asked her,
can you bring them here? She told
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him they are in the like on
the mountain and this person is severely injured
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and can't move. He's like,
okay, fine, and asks how far
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this trek will be. She tells
him it will take roughly forty five minutes
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of walking to reach them, to
reach this person. So he packs as
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much stuff as he can and they
began walking, and they are going through
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these little paths that you wouldn't be
able to find unless you knew where you
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were going. It was very isolated, and it's at night. They reach
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a black, single story house.
The windows were all covered. It had
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a few rooms. It looked almost
abandoned. He says, it was as
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if whoever built this found this space
in the side the mountain and decided to
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build something there. So I'm guessing
it was like like there was like this
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chunk cut out from the mountain and
it just so happened that someone saw it
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and was like, oh, that's
a perfect place to build a house,
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so they did. There were two
bedrooms, one that belonged to the woman
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who asked him for help, in
the other room that had the door slightly
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Ajar, and a central room that
was empty, so just her room and
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another room had furniture, and the
living room was like empty, it didn't
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have any furniture in the room that
was slightly Ajar was the man needing medical
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attention. He describes him as North
American a foreigner more than two meters tall.
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So he was very tall. What
is two meters? Sorry, let
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me just look that up. I
think it's like over six feet six ft
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five? Oh dan, Yeah,
so he was really tall and white,
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bald, without a single hair,
no eyelashes, no eyeom, completely hairless.
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He describes him as wearing and this
is like linen pants, you know,
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like that like off white pants that
are like cottoners or very breathable like
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that material. Yeah, like really
good for hot weather. He wore a
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shirt that was unbuttoned and opened completely, and he was in a fetal position.
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The doc goes up to him and
asks him, what's your name?
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He gets no response. Then he
asks him where is your pain? He
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gets again no response, but he
does point at something, so he continues
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to try to speak to him.
He like tries a little in an English,
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but again no response. He then
asked the woman for some help,
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and she tells him that the man
is the doctor. You told me to
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get. The man then relaxes a
little bit and the doc goes on to
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examine him. When he touched the
man, he was cold. It was
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like what he did scribe touching a
serpent. He was cold, hard and
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scaly. What weird And he checks
him and he realizes that he has had
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a shotgun injury. So my fucking
god, oh my god. Wait wait
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wait wait, Waite tried to kill
him, and he goes on to say
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that the injury wasn't super serious.
However, he couldn't exactly tell how bad
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it was as the only light they
had was the candle and his phone.
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That was it. The man takes
off the bandage that was covering the wound
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and the injury was surrounded by an
emerald green coloration. He told the man
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and the woman that this is serious
infection and he needs to go to the
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hospital. He did what he could
and began cleaning the wound to the best
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of his abilities. What he found
strange is that the wound looked putrid,
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but it had no odor. It
didn't smell like it had puster anything.
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He got a gaze with the infected
blood and brought it to his nose,
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but again he couldn't smell anything.
He kept on cleaning out the wound,
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but it kept on coming out this
weird green color. So he cleaned and
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cleaned and never got to the red
blood. And he checked for an hour.
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So this man is like checking the
wound to see if any red blood
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comes through, because he's like,
I don't know, there's this this serious
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infection, and why is there no
red blood. He doesn't understand what's going
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on. And he still thought it
was an infection, but he had to
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bandage the man up. So he
continues to clarify that the bullet wound wasn't
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so serious, but to him,
that green licket and the green liquid and
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the green coloration of the wound made
him think it was an infection. He's
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like, I gotta get this man
stitched up and bandaged, so maybe he
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will go to the hospitals. That
was his hope. He gave the man
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some antibiotics and cleaned it with some
antibiotic ointment and anti fungal ointment. He
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cleaned his wound with some hydrogen peroxide
and it activated, but without the foam.
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So because when hydrogen peroxide touches blood, it begins to bubble, and
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this didn't happen, and it was
very strange. He bandished him, took
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his vitals and pressure and he says
his blood pressure was severely low. He
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told the woman that this is serious. He's in shock. His blood pressure
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is like he should be like I
don't know, like cardiac arrest or something.
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He tells her he could get some
volunteers to come up here and bring
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him safely to the hospital. He
was so weirded out because this man was
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super chill. His blood pressure was
dropping, but he acted like I'm good,
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Like he was fine. Yeah,
like he was fine. The woman
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told him, don't worry, he's
fine, and she also told him that
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she works for him. He left
them with the antibiotics and instructions, and
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he was weirded out the entire time
because nothing made sense. He also said
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this man didn't even blink. His
face was skeletal like cheeks sunken in.
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His brow bone acted like eyebrows like, so he had a really prominent browbone.
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He told them I have to go. If you need help, let
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me know. I can get volunteers
up here. As he was leaving,
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he looked back and this man his
pupils changed. He had cat like eyes
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with the slit down the middle.
He blinked with the side of his eyes
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like a reptile. He blinked with
this third eyelid and the doctor was like,
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what is this, Oh my god, what is this now? The
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doc at first thought this was Snawa, but looking back, he doesn't think
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this man was ever human. And
this story reminds me. Yes, when
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you were saying he was shot and
then he was like red tile like I
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was like, oh my god,
this is the thing from the desert.
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Yes too, because it's it's so
weird. Yeah, where did this happen?
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This doesn't where did this happen?
Usila? Let me see where that
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is? I forget. I think
it might be in Ohaka. Oh that's
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too far. If it is,
yeah, but we don't know if that
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person travels because I forgot to mention
this. But the lady makes the woman
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told him that he leaves for long, long periods of time and then comes.
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Oh so he's gone for I don't
know if it's days or weeks,
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but he's gone for a long time
and then randomly comes back. So that's
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yeah, you know, if it
had been like in what's it called?
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Yeah, it's in Ohaka, but
maybe it's like the same creature that is
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so far. No true, if
it had been somewhere like I don't know,
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Sonora, or like yeah, see
that Chiawa areas. But that's what
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I thought too. I was like
maybe it's not the same one but but
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similar or like yeah, and I
was just like that's so weird. Yeah,
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no, this is so and maybe
it was it but it got shot
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and I was like, I gotta
go home. Yeah that was yeah.
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I thought of that immediately. I
was like what oh oh, And then
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I forgot to mention this for some
reason. I forgot to write this down.
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But he said as he was leaving, this thing began speaking, and
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it was speaking, but like it
sounded like what they said, like Harry
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Potter, like the parcel done yes. And then it was like he was
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like, I was so weird because
like he had this weird speech thing.
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Oh you know. The other thing
that I that came to mind was the
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the sohen the Celancio, the zone
of Silence, because they say that the
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aliens that people see there are like
very very tall, very white. True,
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and but again it's too far.
It's too far for me too,
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because they're like aliens. I would
hope they have better transportation than true.
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True, but I would be more
inclined to believe it was either the thing
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from the desert again, if it
happened in a border border city, or
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maybe they're everywhere. True, that
would also make sense why they were.
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They would be like in Wahaca because
like that area is very warm. Oh
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maybe they like they maybe they like
to go different places tropical to get their
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sun because it's cold. They're like, I'm gonna go over there. Let
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take a little vacation to like Queen. But you know what, like weird
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shit happens in Wahaca. Lots of
lots of stories, such a mystical place,
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for sure. So wow, that's
creepy, and that's I would go
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there with a group of like fifteen
though, no less time, no less.
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Now there's a book called The Ruins
where some people go in a group
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of like seven or eight to like
the Jungles of I don't remember if it
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was Haka or if it was further
a little further down, but they're like
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in the junglest like indigenous land,
and then like shit just goes bad.
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Okay, so bring a group of
yeah, yeah, oh wow, that's
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creepy though, So I don't know, imagine like seeing that ship. This
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is why this is I keep saying
this, but this is why I don't
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see anything because like Micago and then
Mimuelo both in a row and then yeah,
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they're gonna be like, how did
she die? And then no one's
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gonna want to like say, but
they're gonna be like it wasn't pretty.
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Oh, we don't want to talk
about it, but it was kind of
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gross. We're gonna be like in
the afterlife, you know how they made
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a fun of in Cocoa. What's
his name for dying choking on us?
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Yeah, that's gonna be me.
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much for doing that. Okay,
So my other story is called the Serpent
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of Algante and I found it on
Quenta dot com. So this goes.
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My Abulita told me this story when
I was a little boy. It terrified
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me when I first heard it because
my grandma is an honest and wise woman,
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so there was no way that this
story was not true. She said
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that as a young girl, she
used to live in Monte Morello's Nouveau Leon
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in a small community. She lived
there with her parents in a small rancho.
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Near the rancho, there was a
river, and her friend used to
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live close to the river. This
friend was older than my grandmother. She
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was seventeen and recently married. My
grandma's friend was also pregnant, but superactive
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and very friendly. Every morning she
made tortillas to sell to everyone nearby.
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My grandma spent a lot of time
at their house. Sometime after the baby
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was born, my grandma and great
grandma went over there as usual for some
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tortillas. It was early in the
morning and they knocked, but no one
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would open. All they could hear
was the baby boy crying. They were
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worried, so they tried the door
and it happened to be open, so
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they went in. They found the
young mom asleep next to the baby,
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but it was extremely difficult to wake
her up, almost like she was in
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a trance. My great grandma asked
her, once, you know, they
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did wake her up. My great
grandma asked her, was get what happened
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to you? And the young mom
answered, I don't know. I just
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get so tired. After the baby
nurses. As the days passed, the
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young mom looked more and more tired
and sick. The baby started losing weight
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and crying and crying more. The
husband grew worried. He decided to miss
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work one day to take care of
them. As he woke up one morning
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to feed their animals, he was
outside and they heard the baby start to
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cry. Then he heard his wife
calmed the baby down and the baby stopped
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crying, so he continued to work
outside. After some moments, he heard
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the sound of Najara. It was
like a jar. I want to say,
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yeah, it is like because they
technically have a glass one. I
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think it's clay though, you know, like the ones from That's That's that's
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what pops up in my mind too, me too, Yeah, That's what
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I'm thinking of. So he heard
this fall. He ran inside to see
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what was happening, and when he
went into the room, he was horrified.
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He saw a snake drinking the milk
of his wife while she slept,
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but she looks dated. The snake's
tail was in the baby's mouth. He
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grabbed the mate and struck the snake. He then grabbed it threw it out
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side, put them as stay there
on, it threw some wood on it
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and set fire to it. Holy. After this took place, my grandma
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arrived. The husband told her everything
and showed my grandma where he burned the
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snake. There she saw a pile
of bones, human bones. It's believes
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now that this snake was a Now, while it's crazy, just imagine seeing
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that, I would throw up.
I would throw ye save my wife.
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But yeah, but first, yeah, gotta wait a second, hold on.
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It's it's even more jarring because he
was outside and he heard, like
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the baby started crying, and he
was like, oh, she calmed the
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baby down, like oh she heard
heard like oh yeah yeah, and then
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like the baby stopped crying. So
he's like, oh, she's she took
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care of the baby. It's good. But it was actually the snake's fucking
396
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tail in the baby's mouth. That's
why. Yeah, that's why the baby
397
00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.359
stopped crying. And that just makes
it some it's worse for me. Yes,
398
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:07.039
I like it feels so I don't
know, like violating, Yes,
399
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:12.319
so disturbing. Okay, So I
got the second story, and it's again
400
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:18.359
from podcast Extra Normald and this one's
from episode ninety three. For those who
401
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:23.200
want to listen. This is just
so good, and he has another guest
402
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:29.480
on this, another co host guest, Peppe hooks, I believe it's how
403
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:33.440
you pronounce it and trigger warning.
This story has abuse and human trafficking in
404
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.880
it, so if skip to the
end, it's it's a it's a rough
405
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:44.279
story. So Peppa says he had
a listener who always engaged in his post,
406
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:47.880
and one day she reached out to
him wanting to tell him a story,
407
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.920
but she was unsure if she should. She was scared that something was
408
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:55.000
going to happen to her, but
Peppa assured her, like, you don't
409
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:56.200
have to. If you don't want
to, we could keep you anonymous.
410
00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:00.599
Whatever you want to do is fine. So she gets the courage and sent
411
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:06.920
in her story and she titled it
as a Nawa saved me from human trafficking.
412
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:09.519
Oh, she used harsh a word, but to me, she's a
413
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:15.480
victim and she was trafficked and now
she shall not be referring to her that
414
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:20.559
way. Oh. I see.
Her family was poor, and she had
415
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:24.039
lots of siblings, and she was
one of the younger siblings and she had
416
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:30.079
some brothers that were older. Her
father was an alcoholic and her brothers were
417
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:35.079
on the same path. Her mother
worked all day, so her brothers got
418
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:39.079
to do whatever they wanted. Wow. And one of her brothers started bringing
419
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:45.559
in money and he told them his
job was bringing girls to parties. He
420
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:49.599
started getting a lot of money,
and she wanted some. She asked him
421
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.119
to She asked him for money,
like, give mom some so she doesn't
422
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:57.640
have to work so much. He
got mad, they fought. He told
423
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:01.559
them no, it's his money he's
going to and how he wants ungrateful little
424
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:06.079
bit and she was like, fine, but I want a job too.
425
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:08.400
And she's like, I'm a girl. I have friends. I can get
426
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:13.839
some of my friends to go party
with you. She was extremely innocent.
427
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:20.440
She didn't know. He tells her, okay, how many friends can you
428
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.680
bring to these parties? And she
tells them this many. He's like all
429
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:28.000
right, and he's like, you
and your friends will be picked up on
430
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:31.799
this day, on this time to
go to one of the parties. Her
431
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:36.960
brother was a pimp. MM yeah, I think we figured that out,
432
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.920
we and the listeners that are not
listening right now at the moment that we're
433
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:44.759
recording. But I was like,
we figured it out anyway, Yes,
434
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:49.160
so they go to this party and
they start to give the girl's strengths.
435
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:52.799
These people at the party started separating
the girls from each other, so she
436
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:58.039
began freaking out, and her and
two other girls at this point were the
437
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:00.279
only ones left. So they were
like, let's go to the bathroom together.
438
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:06.039
And at this point they had a
security guard tell them he was following
439
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:07.800
them, so they weren't leaving,
you know, they made that clear.
440
00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:10.840
Oh, he was like making sure
that they couldn't leave. Yeah, And
441
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:16.199
they entered the bathroom and this man
was just standing there. There were two
442
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.960
stalls to her friends each got into
one, and she's left waiting with the
443
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:23.320
man. He tells her, if
you want to escape, this is what
444
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:27.400
you need to do, and he
tells them, you know the exact path
445
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:30.599
to get away. So just as
they were about to be free, her
446
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:36.880
brother catches them. He brought them
back and they began to interrogate the girls.
447
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:38.599
How did you know how to get
out of here? Who told you?
448
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:44.360
And they described the man and they
checked security cameras and they didn't see
449
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.400
anybody, like, no one that
fit that description. Oh shit. After
450
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:53.079
some time, they began to trafficker
her own brother of course, because most
451
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:57.239
of the time it is a relative. Yeah, it is a relative.
452
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:01.199
Yeah. After many years of being
held cap div and after moving from one
453
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:07.199
location after another, roughly nine years
later, she's held in a place in
454
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:13.440
a ranch in Guanajuato, and this
ranch was run by the person who trafficked
455
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:15.920
her. All the not her brother, but like another person. Oh,
456
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:21.599
all the government officials in the area, they were all part of this like
457
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.400
mafia, So all the government officials
were in on it in this little bueblo
458
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:30.119
or whatever in this area, though
she had a little bit more freedom.
459
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:34.000
She was able to go out shopping
and get groceries, et cetera, but
460
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.920
she couldn't leave the bueblo. The
man who ran it was extremely powerful and
461
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:43.559
previously three other girls had tried to
escape and it didn't end well for them,
462
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:47.880
so she didn't even try. Her
and another girl were responsible for treating
463
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:53.079
the gang slash mafia members who were
injured due to altercations with another group.
464
00:35:53.280 --> 00:36:00.199
This other girl was the nurse before
she was kidnapped and trafficked. One day,
465
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.679
she's out running errands and she runs
into this man and she recognizes him.
466
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:08.440
They stare at each other and she
realizes it's the man from the bathroom,
467
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:14.159
the one who tried to help her
and her friends years ago. The
468
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.320
man asked, hey, is so
and so here and it was the name
469
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:21.639
of the nurse. And she's like
and he's like, she's here, right,
470
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.519
I'm going to rescue her. And
she's dumbfounded at this point, and
471
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:30.199
there's really only one thing she could
like say in his and she tells him,
472
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:31.679
Hey, you're the man who tried
to help me so many years ago.
473
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:36.039
That's it. That was like the
entirety of the conversation, Like she's
474
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:40.159
in shock and he's just, you
know, doing looking for somebody. And
475
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:45.599
a few days passed and there was
an incident that took place and one of
476
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:49.599
the goons that worked for the trafficker
was attacked. He looked like he was
477
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:53.840
attacked by a wild beast. He
was dying, and he was bedwritten for
478
00:36:53.880 --> 00:37:00.559
several days and would say the most
outlandish things like it ripped his head off,
479
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:06.760
Oh my god, oh my god, what it's getting crazy. After
480
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.840
a few days he regains his wits
and they asked him what happened. He
481
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:15.119
says, they were circling the perimeter, making sure that there wasn't any rival
482
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:19.760
groups or anything that needed to you
know, they needed to watch out for.
483
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:25.000
During this time, they came across
an elderly man. This elderly man
484
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:30.880
asked for a ride because his truck
ran out of gas. I was told
485
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:32.960
there was a publo here and I
could and I could see if I could
486
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:37.679
get help, he said. They
said, yes, we will help,
487
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:42.599
but because they were suspicious of everyone, they said they were going to have
488
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.880
to handcuff him. So they helped
him into the truck and placed him in
489
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:50.599
the middle between both of them.
They said, we will bring you to
490
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:52.639
the town, but you're going to
have to get your own help. And
491
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:58.800
this elderly man begins asking questions about
the nurse. He knew her name,
492
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:02.159
and he was asked asking where her
whereabouts are. At this point, the
493
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:07.880
two goons try to unalive the man, and it's at this point the elderly
494
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:13.559
man transforms into a nawa. He
begins to attack the goons and he kills
495
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:16.360
one of them and leaves the other
severely injured. The one the girls are
496
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:22.119
treating. The goon that survived,
begins to beg for forgiveness from the nurse.
497
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:23.960
He's like, I didn't mean to
hurt you. Please tell him I
498
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:29.639
didn't hurt you. He threatened me. So he's so severely injured. He's
499
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.400
moved and she never heard what happened
to him. But at this point in
500
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:37.320
time, he's just he's moved and
she never gets to know what happened to
501
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.760
the man, if he's survived whatever, she never finds out. And one
502
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:46.760
night they were awaiting their clients and
they had the woman in the brothel.
503
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:51.280
So they begin to hear a lot
of noise and a lot of commotion,
504
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:55.599
gunshots and screaming, and then the
elderly man barges into their room, the
505
00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:59.960
same man who tried to help her
in the bathroom so many years ago,
506
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:05.000
and the same man she ran into
when grocery shopping. Her friend, the
507
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:08.599
nurse and the elderly man embrace.
They hug in exchange I love you.
508
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:14.719
She's confused at this point, she
doesn't understand what's going on. They began
509
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:17.559
hearing sirens, and she knows at
this point, once the police get here,
510
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:22.360
it's going to end badly because the
police work for the trafficker. The
511
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:27.360
elderly man has it all planned out. Though they began walking through the hills
512
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.480
for several hours. After a while, the three of them get to an
513
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:36.840
encampment and the elderly man was already
prepared. They stayed there for several days
514
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:40.360
and he helped many girls. He
didn't just save her and the nurse.
515
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:45.400
He saved all, if not most, of the girls there one at a
516
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:50.519
time. He helped them find their
families. Wow. She asked him one
517
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:53.760
day, why are you helping us? And she finds out that this Nahwa
518
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:59.000
is from Vera Cruz and the same
place that the nurse friend is from.
519
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:05.960
He was the nurse's father. Oh. The nurse friend had finished her studies
520
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:09.000
in Vera Cruz and went to see
me go to work. She ended up
521
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:15.920
going to a party. That's where
she's kidnapped, and that day he encountered
522
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:19.159
her in the bathroom. He was
looking for his daughter. However, he
523
00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:24.360
was too late that day. She
had been moved earlier, like to another
524
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:30.440
location. Yeah, and the story
has a bittersweet ending. She migrated to
525
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:34.400
the United States. She started a
family. Her brother is in jail,
526
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.679
but unfortunately her mother died and she
never got to see her mom again.
527
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:49.880
Oh my god, but I this
is a very rough story. But Nahuas
528
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:54.960
have a really negative rep like yes, you know, they're often considered evil.
529
00:40:55.079 --> 00:41:01.920
But this man who was a nawal
saved all the girls from in that
530
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:07.159
brothel, like and he not only
saved them, he helped them find their
531
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:15.199
families. And yeah, and he
even though he wanted to save his daughter,
532
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:20.119
he saves all of them like it
not just he went back again and
533
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:27.320
again again and again and again and
he rescued the girls. Wow, amazing
534
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:32.480
And it's such a like a like
a it's a bittersweet story because like what
535
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:37.480
a horrible thing she experienced, but
it's I don't know, like you know,
536
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:40.400
like this man, who many people
because of what he is, would
537
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:45.280
be viewed as evil did's one of
the most greatest act of kindness ever.
538
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:52.239
Yeah. Yeah, wow, I'm
so glad you brought that story. I
539
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:53.519
was like, I was like,
oh my god, this is just getting
540
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:59.159
me in the fields. But yeah, such a good story. Have you
541
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:02.559
heard of this like city and somewhere
in Mexico that like everyone in the city
542
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:10.119
is like they all like basically all
the men are traffickers. No, and
543
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:15.000
they have like a festival every year
where they Oh my god, I have
544
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:17.920
to remember my mom was the one
who the one who showed me this.
545
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:25.199
Okay, Yeah, it's called the
non single. Wow, and where's this?
546
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:30.519
This is where is the Remember the
girls are in at this point when
547
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:37.400
they get rescued. Oh right,
they're called the pimps are called and like
548
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:43.920
they have like a festival where the
boys are like going like becoming. But
549
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:47.599
it's it's so strange what that is? Insane? Yeah, I was watching
550
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:52.800
a thing on YouTube about it with
my mom. Where it's in the state
551
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:58.880
of Mexico. Oh is that near
I don't even know. I don't even
552
00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:02.519
know what did I think it was
in Taxcala? Oh it is the La
553
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:08.280
Scala You're right. Why does it
say over here it says there's two singles,
554
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:12.840
one of one hundred and twenty five
municipalities in the state of Mexico,
555
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:19.440
Mexico. But then yeah, because
this one is in Black Scala. Okay,
556
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.280
but which one is the one that
is that doesn't Yes, it's the
557
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:27.840
one in Black Scala. Yeah,
it's like a hub for all this And
558
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:32.679
yes, consider to be the center
of sex trafficking throughout Mexico, with roots
559
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:39.280
of the practice dating back to nineteen
seventy nineteen two. To the nineteen seventies.
560
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:44.719
Yeah, and like everyone in this
town is involved in it or something
561
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:49.320
like that. And then they go
back and forth from like Houston and other
562
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:54.119
places taking people. It's like a
whole whole system. I guess that lets
563
00:43:54.159 --> 00:44:00.519
this happen. Oh my god.
Between twenty eleven in twenty seventeen was at
564
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:06.880
least two hundred and ten human trafficking
lawsuits Incala, and only nine ended up
565
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:13.199
with jail sentences. Is Tlexcala near
and now I'm curious. I want to
566
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:16.000
see if I don't think said,
well, well let me see. That's
567
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:20.920
crazy. No they are, They're
not that super close five hours. Oh
568
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:31.559
that's crazy. Yeah, absolutely wild, discussing very extremely Anyway, do you
569
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:38.039
have any speaking recommendations? This week? I got a book. Speaking of
570
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:44.639
books, I'm almost done with The
Haunting so close now it's so good,
571
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:51.760
it's so good. So there was
like this author who was doing what is
572
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:54.079
it what is it called when they
got signing books, like a book signing,
573
00:44:54.199 --> 00:45:01.239
book signing. Anyways, let's pretend
that didn't happen. I'm just kidding.
574
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:07.239
So he didn't have anybody at his
book signing, and I was like,
575
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:12.360
I have to like, buy this
man's book. So it's Lay Howard
576
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:16.480
and the Ghost of Simmons or Simon's
Pierce Manner, Simmons Pierce Manner, and
577
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:21.559
it's by Sean M. Warner,
and it's supposed to be like a mystery.
578
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:23.360
And this is the back of the
book, and it says orphans.
579
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:28.360
She goes to live with an incredibly
wealthy relative she never knew she had.
580
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:31.760
Struggling to fit into her new world, she can't let go of her grief.
581
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:36.440
When the police tell her the investigation
to her parents murder has hit a
582
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:38.400
brick wall, she knows the only
way she could ever know peace is to
583
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:43.800
solve a mystery herself with new family
and friends, which includes a ghost with
584
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:52.000
multiple multiple personality issues. Lay risk
the risks everything to find her new answers,
585
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:54.199
Oh is it Lay or Lee?
Lee or Lay? I don't know.
586
00:45:54.239 --> 00:46:00.239
I can't think it's I can't with
English names like I was gonna say
587
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:02.119
it isn't. I feel like this
thing has been going viral on TikTok?
588
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:06.199
Did it really not? Did it
go viral because he had no one at
589
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:07.920
his book signing? Yeah? Yeah, he had no one at his book
590
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:13.639
signing at all, Like he was
there for several hours and like nobody was
591
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:17.159
walking up to him. Well,
now it has at four point nine at
592
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:22.039
a five rating on Amazon and one
thousand, five hundred seventy ratings. Four
593
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:27.039
point nine sounds pretty good to me, so I got it. I was
594
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:30.760
like, oh my god, that's
horrible. It has good reviews. Oh
595
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.599
well, I'll probably check it out. Huh. Okay. I watched a
596
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:39.599
movie. I realized that normally I
put on a podcast while I'm doing dishes,
597
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:44.639
but this day I was like,
that's not enough. I need something
598
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:47.159
more because I don't want to do
these dishes at all. So I put
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on a movie and just put it
like on the counter because I have like
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a my scenk is there, then
the walls behind it, and then like
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the window to the backyard is there, so I put it on the window.
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Still, I put my phone there, and I was watching this movie
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called Boys from County Hell and it's
on shutter and I'm just gonna say,
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like two things, irish and vampires, and it's a horror comedy. Yeah
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it was. It was good.
I had a great time watching it.
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I love horror comedies already, so
I'm like, already biased I also love
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vampires and Irish accents, so you
I was gonna absolutely love this movie.
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I feel like the only Europeans and
I'm like, you're all right is Irish?
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Well the Irish had Mexico's back,
yeah, you know, and they
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are also colonized by England. Yes, and all the memes when all the
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memes when what's her name Queen Elizabeth
died? Yes, Irish TikTok doesn't Irish
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TikTok and Irish Twitter do not play. They were So that was so funny.
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Listen, I have like top five
favorite days on the internet because of
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all the memes. That was one
of them that was in my top five.
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That memes was fantastic Day number two
probably when the fucking stupid submarine shit
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was happening. That was probably my
one of my other favorite days. Yeah,
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it was so funny. I was
so sorry for those that I would
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like last when I posted memes about
this. But we'll all be in hell
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singing together, yea together. Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna see Ronald Reagan
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there and I'm gonna punch him but
we don't and yeah, we like Listen,
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just please man, I'll go back
to my cell let me punch this
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fucker real quick. There's a group
that I'm in and I posted like,
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let's all share these memes thread that
day, and we were most of us
624
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were all laughing, having a great
time. And I think there was like
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two comments that were like, I
just can't believe that we've gotten so low
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in humanity that we can laugh.
Uh this uh tragedy. And then someone
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commented underneath that they were like,
these they're rich people. They don't count.
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They don't I'm sorry, Like the
people are like, how dare you
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love? I'm like, first of
all, why would I be happy about
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the people who are oppressing us not
getting their dues? Like, and a
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lot of people are like, oh
my god, but they were just I'm
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like, there will the system to
oppress people. They're the reason why medical
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care is crazy expensive. There's the
reason why thousands of people die, thousands
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or millions die a year through throughout
the world. They're the reason why our
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entire planet is so contaminated. There's
the reason why you know, like people
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in countries like you know that that
you sweatshops. Yeah, the reasons why
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people die on every single corner of
the planet. And you're just like sad
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about it. The only person I
feel bad for was that nineteen year old
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that did not want to get on
yes and did it because he wanted to
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make his dad happy for Father's Day. Yeah, that is it. But
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everyone else they are responsible for who
knows how many lives ruined not you mentioned,
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they're like demanding this, like when
when it comes to their money and
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their taxes, they're like governments staying
away, don't touch my money. I'm
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not going to help anyone. Pull
yourself up. But the boots drops.
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Fuck poor people. But the minute
that they need help, oh, where's
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the government search for this submarine?
Which did happened? And millions upon millions
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are spent and at the same time, nothing was spent to find refugees that
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you know that drop? So yeah, no, I'm gonna keep laughing.
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And that was yeah in my top
five favorite days on the Internet. Oh
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yeah, I don't know how we
hadn't gotten this point is that movie was
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very fun. I do recommend it. Yeah, And again that was Boys
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from County And it's like a it's
a good twist on like a vampire story
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because it's also a little different.
It's not your normal vampire I think so,
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it's very fun. And yeah,
I started watching this other movie but
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then I forgot to finish it,
so we'll see. Oh that actually reminds
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me though it's not a movie.
But guess who has a new episode out
657
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my favorite show Normal Con. I
haven't watched it. I'm gonna watch it
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today. That's hilarious. I also
started watching the Oh my god, something
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Belotti's Roach. What is it call
though? Oh? Yes, yes,
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yes, I saw you old Roach. Sweet about it? It's ride about
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00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:44.360
it? Oh yeah, no,
it was a thread. Yeah, I'm
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trying threads out. I don't know
how I feel about it. It's kind
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of annoying right now. Every time
I log onto threads is like brand after
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brand making like fucking stupid puns with
like thousands upon thousands of likes, and
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I'm like, oh, get the
brands out of here. I think I
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followed enough people. I'm not saying, okay, I just haven't been on
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it enough. I think I don't
know. I hate it that part of
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it. And then if it's not
brands making all these cheesy ass puns,
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then it's influencers asking these open ended
questions that I'm so tired of and then
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I started getting a bunch of like
things about God and praying, and I
671
00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:19.880
was like, what is this?
What is happening? I don't want to
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see any of this. So anyway, that was on threads when I posted
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about the Roach show. I'm watching
it. I'm like on episode two.
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I do like it so far.
So yeah, that's another thing I recommend
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threads. I don't know if I
recommend threads. We are on there as
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the Spooky Tails, and each of
us are on their individually, but I
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don't know how I feel about it
yet. I am just I like this
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change though, because on Twitter,
whenever it would log on, it would
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always be no matter how many times
I block elon musk he pops up.
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00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:55.079
Damn. You know, I just
got tired of it. I just I
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avoid Twitter all together now because it's
just like yeah, yeah, but yeah,
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you can find us on threads or
Instagram or TikTok. I do have
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a Twitter first book tells, but
I rarely. I don't post on it
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as much as I used to either. And we have a Facebook, but
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I also don't use it because Facebook. But yeah, you can find find
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us mostly on TikTok and Instagram,
and I guess threads. Maybe if I
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keep using it, we'll see.
But yeah, anything else to add before
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we go? I think that's it. Okay, Yeah, if you want
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