Duendes and the Amazon

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Hi everyone. This is Christina and
this is MJA. And this is another

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episode of his Spooky Tales, the
podcast for all Things Spooky. Today we

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have a lovely guest with us.
If you have been with us for a

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long time, then you probably listen
to one of our first Eurona episodes and

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the lovely V was with us.
Say hi to everyone. Hi everyone,

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thanks for having me. Ladies.
I'm excited I missed talking to you guys.

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I know it's been so long.
I think I was a while ago.

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I was telling m J and I
was like, oh my god,

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I haven't seen V on Twitter.
You think she's okay. Yes, I've

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been here. I've been a recluse. I've been in my case understandable.

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Yeah, I feel that. Yeah. Today we're gonna talk about Dwen this

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and the missing children that were amazingly
found. But first we do have a

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listeners story And if you have a
story that you want us to read on

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just send them in because we love
reading them. So this story goes,

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and they wanted to stay anonymous,
so I'm not gonna say their name.

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My grandparents owned a house near Elparian
in Guadalajara in the nineteen seventies and eighties.

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During this time, my dad and
his stabilians were around preteen age.

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In the backyard, there was a
well. How we thought about wells.

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Wells are evil and they're for murder. It was something like that. Murder,

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yes, okay, so kids being
kids, they tied a rope around

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my dad and lured him into the
well. When he reached the bottom,

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he saw that it was not just
the well, but a long tunnel.

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He said it was super dark down
there, but he could tell that it

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went on forever. Suddenly he saw
a glowing red face with a sinister look

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rushing towards him. He screamed and
was pulled back up. Needless to say,

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they never did that again. Oh
God, no, medago memuro.

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I would be, I would be
no, I wouldn't make it. Another

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time one of my dad's brothers was
sleeping and he was assaulted by something.

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Oh no, I should put a
trigger. Morning here. So if you

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don't want to hear anything about sexual
assault, this is terrible. Skip the

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next like thirty seconds. Okay,
he couldn't see what it was, but

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he was being attacked, grabbed,
and groped on his private parts. He

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said. He was fighting whatever was
there until it finally left him alone.

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He turned the lights on and no
one else was in the room with him.

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He had a very hard time sleeping
in the house after this happened to

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him. There was always something going
on there. Things were always moved around,

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there was always footsteps when everyone was
in bed. Already. It didn't

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stop here though. Eventually My dad
and his siblings moved to the States,

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to California. My great grandfather owned
the apartment complex that my entire family lived

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in. I lived there until oh, you know what, I'm gonna leave

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that out because that's going to be
part of the next story. Okay,

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that's that's horrible. Wow, that's
like the incubus succubus, Yes, which

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one does that? So it would
be the like incubus, right if it

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would. Yeah, I've heard both
words. Yeah, let me see actually,

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let me google real quick. Yeah, let's let's look already, look

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like a dumbass look like, yes, it's a succubus a theme. I'll

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demon believed to have sexual intercourse with
sleeping men. That's terrible. God.

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Now the listeners say that the wall
was like on their property or did they

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not mention that? Yeah, the
well was in there in their house in

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Guadallahara. Oh my god, that's
crazy. I remember like back then,

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like my my grandma, my dad's
mom has a will inside her house.

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Whoa wow. And I know that
was like really common back in the days.

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Yeah, no, no, no, I just like I literally would

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have a heart attack on the spot
if I saw this crawling towards me,

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Like yeah, this is this is
why I've never seen anything because I would

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I would die. They're like no, I stand no, Oh my god,

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that's so wow. Thank you so
much for setting that in. I'm

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glad that Carmen wasn't here when when
I was reading the story, because anytime

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the Gada Laha has mentioned, she
cuts me off and like just shadra walla

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Llahara and I'm like stop, never
fails, Like when yeah two was that

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two or three episodes ago she was
on because you couldn't record MJ and the

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listeners story was also near Wallallahara,
so it was Helisco somewhere in Helisco,

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not even actually not even near,
but I said Halisco and she was like

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shadow Elisco. And I was like, oh my god, are we already

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have like a review that's like they
cut each other off too much? And

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Carmen like cuts me off every five
seconds. The worst. She's gonna be

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listening to this too. Okay,
So yeah, we're gonna talk a little

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bit about the recent kids that went
missing because I found out that it involves

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Dwen this yes, very and and
the Amazon and I don't actually, MJ,

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I don't think you were on that
episode either. When last time I

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had a it was like a missing
four one one slash Duende episode and there

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was a man his name was Michael
Ana and they were not in Colombia.

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They were in uh I want to
say, it was Bolivia. And he

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was like part of this tour group
and every night before they go out into

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like the jungle. In the tour
group, they do like a ritual to

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Pacha Mama like Mother Earth, and
everyone does it, like nobody says no,

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but for some reason, like Michael
didn't want to do it, and

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he was the only one who didn't
do it, and he went missing after

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that for nine days. And Pacha
Mama is like said to have a duende

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that takes people for her, whoever's
disrespecting the jungle things like that. Like

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right away when he wasn't found,
the owner of the tour group was like,

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oh, he didn't participate in in
the ritual, so he was probably

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taken by the duende. And there
they brought in like a curandero or like

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a spiritual leader to try and help
find him. And this man was like

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doing rituals to try and appease Mother
Earth and the wind there to find him.

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And he was saying that Michael was
like in another dimension, yeah,

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dimension uh huh, somewhere where they
then that's why they couldn't find him.

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And he was found like nine days
later a mile away from the campsite or

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from the tour group. That's crazy
because that's so close. Yeah, And

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when he and when he was found, he said that he was going losing

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his mind and he didn't he didn't
know where he was, and he blamed

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the wind there, and he later
took that back and said that he doesn't

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believe in any of that, and
that like God was the one that helped

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find him. But it it's suspicious
that the first thing he said when he

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was found was like, oh,
the one they had me. Yeah,

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this reading about the kids just reminding
me of that case. And that was

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like the very short version of the
case, because we did a whole episode

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on it a while back. But
yeah, let's let's get into the story

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of the kids first. So on
May one, twenty twenty three, a

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small airplane, a Cessna two hundred
and six, took off from the Ararakwara

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Airports in Colombia, and there was
seven people on this small little plane in

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total. There was the pilot,
Ernando Mucia Morales. There was a Yarupari

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indigenous leader. His name was Erman
Mendoza Ernandez. And then there was Magdalena

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Mukuti Valencia and her four children.
So Leslie Hako Bombardi Mukutui. She's the

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oldest, the thirteen year old,
so lany hab Oh my god, they're

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the same last name. I'm sorry. I'm not going to try and say

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it again now. It was hard
enough the first time. Apologies. She's

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the nine year old, and then
Tienne Ran Mukuti four years old, and

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then the one year old twelve months
little baby so tiny, Christine Rank.

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They were on the on the flight
and the flight was headed to San Jose.

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It's such hard name, Oh my
god, Guavare two hundred and twenty

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miles north. And then at seven
thirty four am local time, the pilot

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at Nando Mendoza Nanez, made a
distress call and he reported the engine was

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failing. Shortly after that, they
lost contact with the plane, like radio

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silence. They could not be contacted, and so obviously they were like something

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terrible happened, and immediately the Columbian
Air Force deployed two helicopters to look for

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them, but it took them a
while to find the crash site, even

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because this is like really dense jungle
area. So it was on May fifteenth,

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twenty three, two weeks after the
crash that they found the crash site

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itself. At the crash site,
they found the three adults dead, but

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they didn't see the kids anywhere.
They did see items belonging to the kids.

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There was a bottle, like a
drinking bottle. There was what looked

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like a shelter, and just little
things. So they immediately assumed that the

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children were alive, and they began
the search or rescue attempt. So one

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hundred and fifty military rescuers were deployed
to look for them, and then two

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hundred indigenous volunteers were all searching for
the children. And it always seemed like

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they were on the trail of the
kids, like they just missed them or

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something, because they would find footsteps, they would find eaten like plants and

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things like that, but they just
couldn't find the kids, like they didn't

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see them anywhere, but it looked
like they should have been there. The

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children's grandfather who talked to media,
and he said he believed that like jungle

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spirits were either protecting them and had
them in another realm and that's why they

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couldn't be found. But and it
was like up to the jungle now.

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And then their grandmother said she believed
the reason that children could not be found

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it is because when they had them
and they were in another spiritual world.

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I'm gonna I'm gonna read her quote
here. I got chills. Yeah,

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I don't know why. And this
is a very common like belief of the

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area. So she said, who
knows rastros and other grandmother her name is

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Maria Fatima Valencia, and let me
just translate that. She said that like

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twenty days in so because it was
forty days in total that they were missing.

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Wow, I didn't realize. I
thought it was like sooner, like

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like everything happened was on a week
or two. I didn't realize, Yeah,

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forty days and then so in English
I would be actually, I don't

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know what are when does in English
again like elves or dwarves or what are

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all the gnomes? Maybe? Okay, so she said, elves are carrying

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them through the jungles. That's why
you can. You'll only find their traces,

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like traces of them, and that's
scary. They brought in spiritual like

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indigenous leaders to try and find them
too, and like, you know,

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get the aduendes to let go of
the children. So on top of like

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the people searching for them, there
was also people doing I don't know if

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I don't know if like rituals is
the right word, but like trying to

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get them back from the adwendes and
the jungle spirits. Basically, they had

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a recording of the grandmother in their
language, playing like as much as possible,

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like all day and this recording just
basically told them to stay in one

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location so that they could be found
by their rescuers. And this was like

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in a very very loud speaker from
the sky, just again and again and

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again so the kids could hear it. But their grandmother also said she believed

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the children were still alive because they
were raised in the jungles. These are

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indigenous children, and they knew what
to eat, they knew how to hunt,

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they knew how to survive. And
yeah, forty days after the crash,

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they were found three miles from the
crash site. Wow, they were

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so close and they searched that area, Like searchers were within that those that

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like radius, you know, they
were searching there. So I was like,

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why didn't they see them? This
is why I'm inclined to like believe

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the grandma. Yeah, and like
like they were close, but not close

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because they were in another realm.
Like that's that's why I'm like, I

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don't know, they were close,
that's that's wild, like three miles away,

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but they were and they were safe. They were other than obviously being

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hungry and with insect bites, they
they knew what was going on. They

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were healthy. Other than that,
and as soon as they were found,

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one of them, I think it
was the oldest Leslie said they were all

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hungry, and then the four year
old said that they're mother was dead.

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And it was believed that the mother
died right away like an impact, but

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no, I think like four days. Wow. The kids were with her

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for four days and so she didn't
pass away alone. They were with her,

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and she told them before she died, because she knew she was going

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to die. She told them like, go get out of here, like

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so that they could be found.
Yeah, they listened to her. And

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the entire time, the thirteen year
old carried the twelve month old, Oh

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my god in her arms like and
yeah, yeah, it's difficult when they're

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newborn. Oh my god, they're
heaven. Yes. And the oldest two

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were the thirteen year old and the
nine year old. They were basically in

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charge or they I mean, yeah, they knew what to do when they

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kept everyone alive, especially the oldest, the thirteen year old, because they

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didn't have a bottle. Leslie.
Leslie, the thirteen year old, she

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would put like this sugary water that's
found in a plant, and I didn't

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write down the plant names unfortunately.
But she would get this sugary liquid and

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then just like roll it up to
put it into the mouth of the twelve

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year old and like that's what she
would drink. Basically, that's what they

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all would drink. And they ate
like fruit and the jungle was like in

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what's it called when like things started
growing, like like uh, yeah,

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I know what you mean, like
carvest season almost yeah, I don't know,

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but yeah. So it was full
of fruit and things that they could

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eat. So yeah, that's why
they survived because they knew what to eat

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and what not to eat. And
the I think it's the grandfather who later

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spoke to the media and said they
it was thanks to thanks to their indigenous

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knowledge and thanks to the jungle spirits
that they were found. That's what the

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grandfather said. There was a dog
named Winston who was on the Yes he

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was I thought he was found,
but he has not been found. I

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thought too. I saw like people
were saying he was found. He was

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I was like, not playing with
emotion. I know he's still missing.

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They've been making signs that say that's
say Falta Wilson or Winston. What's his

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name? Oh my god, Winston
wait, Winston or Wilson. I think

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it was Winston. Oh thank you, Okay, you just said it and

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I immediately forgot. Yeah. They've
been making signs that say falta Winston,

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and people have been saying that they
think Winston was traded for the kids for

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for the Dwiny like that when they
had them. So now the Dwindy has

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Winston and that's why they can't find
I don't know what's worse. I guess

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the kids, right, kids?
Yeah, I mean kids, dog.

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I know, but it's still terrible. And the reason they know Winston was

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with the kids is because there's the
kids had lines and they said, like

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a dog was with us, and
they like described the dog and it is

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Winston. But they believe the reason
Winston cannot be found now is because when

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they traded the lives of the kids
for the dog. Yeah, wow,

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and it makes sense. Yeah,
I hope he's found, but like if

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the one that has him, then
I don't know. I don't know if

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he will be found. Yeah.
Sad, But that's terrifying because it's not

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it's not this is this is certainly
not the only story of the when there's

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taking people. Yeah, but I've
got the kids were found like that's and

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yeah, they're in a hospital.
They're still in the hospital now. I

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think they're just recovering now. But
oh, I guess before I I and

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this part, they were on the
flight because they were going to see their

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dad, and their dad had escaped. They're they're where they're from, like

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their little village or town, because
they was like I think he said,

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gett a. Yeah, members were
threatening him and so the kids and the

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mom were on their way to him
to like go be with him, and

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that's when the airplane crashed. And
indigenous people are blaming like the airline and

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the country of Colombia for the crash
because I guess these are like very activists

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scammy. Yeah, activists are blaming
the airlines and Colombia itself because this industry

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of like small planes going back and
forth from these remote areas are very not

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strongly regulated. They like take advantage
of people over priced things. The planes

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are not very safe. And I
guess I read that this plane itself hadn't

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been involved in a crash before and
they just like changed some parts and kept

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using it. Wow, So I
mean, maybe this could have been prevented.

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If they had been like I don't
know, if it had been a

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new plane or something I don't know, or at least like fixed up correctly.

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Yeah. Yeah, but because these
types of flights are very unregulated,

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very scammy, it's very dangerous,
especially because they're going back and forth from

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these remote areas, and so the
people that are affected the most by these

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types of crashes are indigenous people.
So yeah, I just wanted to add

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that on. But poor Winston,
I know, Hi, this is editing,

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Christina. It looks like I for
the entire past couple of minutes of

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this episode, even though MJ and
the both corrected me, I still forgot

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Wilson. Is Wilson the dog,
not Winston, And I kept calling him

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Winston, even though I stopped and
asked, like, oh, is it

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Winston or Wilson, and they said
Wilson. I kept saying Winston. My

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bad, his name is Wilson the
Dog. At the time of recording,

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the Colombia Army, how to say, they were going to keep searching for

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Wilson. And it looks like as
of today this morning, actually the twenty

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ninth, the day before this comes
out, they have called off the search

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for Wilson the dog. They said
that he is unlikely to be found.

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They did everything they absolutely could that
was within their reach. They spared no

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efforts to find him, but that
it's unlikely they will find him. So

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rest in peace, little Wilson,
and we will be posting pictures of the

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brave, Brave dog. Okay,
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that. But yeah, anything anything
to add on before we get to these

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terrifying when the story that I'm already
scared of, because these stories are already

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scariest ever in the world. Like
I've been having chills already, like like

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even though they're like they weren't like
negative, but it was like chills the

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entire time you're telling them the story
because the Bundes kind of scared me kind

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of a lot. Yeah, they're
terrifying, they're awful, they aren't.

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I'm ready, strength and water.
Just yes, whenever you're ready, be

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you tell us we are emotionally you're
mostly ready. I don't know about that.

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No, you're right. If we're
gonna dive in physically. I'm ready.

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Okay, you're prepared, all right, good? So okay, I

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was like thinking, of ways,
okay, how can I break this to

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them gently, like without like verifying
them. I'm just like, let's just

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dive in off the band aid.
Yeah, I think I'm thinking. It

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was like I think it was eight
years old because it was right before I

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made my Holy Communion and I noticed
like that really, like I think I

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talked about it a lot on my
show, is like mostly that was a

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lot like the period of time where
I experienced a lot of like horrible like

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hauntings, you know, going on
in my home and like experiences was right

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before my first Holy communion. It
was kind of like a almost like a

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spiritual warfare kind of thing, you
know, like those dark things like coming

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out and appearance to me. But
okay, so anyways, one day I

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was it was like the middle of
summer. My mom was like, okay,

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go do some charge, you know, make yourself useful kind of thing.

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So I was like, you know, cleaning the house, and I

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was in the living room and I
WoT bust. So something like I think

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it was either the pledge bottle or
something. It fell underneath the couch and

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I was like, gosh, shit, So I look under. And when

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I looked under, before I can
reach my hand like you know, under

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the couch to grab it, there
was this oh, the ugliest little man

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I've ever seen. And he was
almost small small, and it almost like

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you know, I don't know if
you've ever seen the movie, you know,

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the Labyrinth, it's like one of
my favorite do you remember Huggle?

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Like he was as like smaller than
Huggle, but he had like that same

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wrinkly face. He had like he's
like almost shabby clothes, and he had

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the most awful grimace I've ever seen, like he was smiling at me so

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like it was it felt threatening,
like I just felt I screamed like rito,

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like oh my god, it's scared
my mom. And she came coming

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and she's like what And I I
was like, mom, there's there's like

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like there's no yeah, he tho
like there's some man underneath the couch.

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She's like what and she looked on
her of course it wasn't there, and

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I described it for I was like
mom, he was so it was little.

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It was little Mom and me at
eight years old, I was just

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like you know, it was like
it was a little person. You know.

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I was so scared. I was
like, I don't want to be

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in the house. I wanted to
lock myself in the room and not even

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being around the living room. And
you know, my mom was like,

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you know, you're you're reading too
much of those book already, because you

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know, I just was always into, like since I was small, you

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know, spooky things, and like
are you afraid of the dark. So

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she's like, you're watching all those
things, You're bringing that into the house.

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This is your conscience, you know. Yah know years later, you

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know, this is the part that's
really gonna chill you. But I'll get

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to that part. But before you
know, after I had seen this thing

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for like a good week, I
had these awful, recurring like dreams,

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these nightmares. It was not just
one. When they it was like oh

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no, and were like, but
because it's weird that we're talking about the

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jungle, because it was like I
was stuck in a jungle and I was

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like staman like in the trees,
like they were above in the trees.

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I was down there. They were
kind of like monkeys, you know,

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like up in the trees and they
were surrounding me. Yeah all the time.

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Yes, yeah, I got killed
because I didn't know that that.

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So I was in this dream stuck
for like a good week. Every time

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i'd fall asleep, I'd wake up
screaming. My dad would go and finally

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my dad was like, you know
what, like you stand there in your

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dream and you tell it to go
away, you know whatever it is,

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like you can control your dream,
like, don't get scared. My parents,

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like I think, even being as
a mom right now, I think

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they would say those things like it
was nothing, like you know, just

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be strong, pray, Like I
think they would say those things because I

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knew that they were scared, because
if they didn't believe me, they would

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have never blessed the house. My
mom would get her I wouldn't dee THI

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she'd started blessing the house, and
I was like, if they didn't believe

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me, they wouldn't have done that. I think to an extent, they

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wanted to like not scare me,
because like I said, that whole week

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when I was having the current nightmares, By would go in the room and

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then he'd start like blessing the house
and he would even be like, get

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out of here, you know.
So after I took my dad's you know,

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advice, it stopped. You know, I finally stood up to them

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in my dreams and they were like
a hearing in my dreams with like these

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awful sharp teeth and red eyes and
they were just they were awful. God.

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So again, like I said,
they the dreams stopped after I,

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you know, did what my dad
said. And you know, probably around

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the same time I started my podcast. I brought this up on my show,

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about the one that I saw,
and I, you know, I

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had told my mom about it.
My parents are awesome, you know,

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they support me so much. They've
listened to my show and ye thinks and

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you know, my mom had listened
to that one, and she's like,

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oh my god, I've never I've
never told you this. But she's like

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right after, she's like, I
don't know if it was that night or

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maybe another night after you saw that
thing. She's like, I had a

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dream and I dreamt I was in
the living grool. Yeah, I know.

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She's like, I dreamt I was
in the living room and right behind

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the team. It came from behind
the God he like peeked out, he

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like it was peeking out behind.
That's the worst, a little like bob

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oh God. So I straight up
got chills. Eye was like what she

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described it to me. I was
like, Mom, that's exactly what that

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thing looked like when I saw it
underneath the couch, the same exact thing

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my mom. For her to have
dreamt that, right, she didn't see

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it, she didn't see what I
saw. But for her to have dreamt

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that like the night after the night
of that scares me, you know,

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you know, like I told you, Christina, like it means like that's

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signifies something huge in my family.
Like I told you, I'm like,

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I can't talk about it on there, yea. The more I talk about

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it, things will happen. Things
happened, ye But before I think a

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couple of nights before I probably was
like Wednesday, because I messaged you Thursday,

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I think, Christina. But I
had an awful night and it was

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I haven't right, I haven't for
a long long time. But I dreamt

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of ad one there And at first
it was like very playful. It was

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like playing tricks on me. Would
take something and I was like in this

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weird room and it was just like
kind of appearing to me at hight and

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then I was like, okay,
cool, but it just switched from like

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playful to like straight up like again
just like threatening me. It wanted to

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like like jump on me. It
was awful. It was like coming at

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me. It was like it kind
of reminded me of like dream when like

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you know, he's trying to like
stat like he's trying to just like it

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just felt it kept coming out.
So I woke up, prayed, and

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yeah, I went back to sleep. And now but I was like,

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you know, I don't talk about
it as much, like I said,

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because it has like a big connection
just like my family. But and it's

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kind of it's kind of difficult for
me to wrap my mind around still that

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that happened to me, you know
what I mean, as so many things

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that have happened to me. But
it makes sense because that was you know,

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I've grown up being a medium and
uh, you know, a clairvoyant

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all my life, so it was
it wasn't like I wasn't like accustomed to

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seeing things, but like a little
creature like that. The way that it

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looked, the way how like it
looked at me, like it was purposely

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sent there, which I know now
it was, but yeah, it's it

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was just to this day, it
just as awful, you know, to

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think about it. Oh my god, terrified. I don't like that reason.

406
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:41.279
I used to have nightmares too as
a kid of was send And then

407
00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:44.359
like one time I got fed up
with it and in my dream I killed

408
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:48.079
it. Good, that's what you're
supposed to and I like I was like

409
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:49.599
smacking because it was trying to like
attack me, like it did you.

410
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:55.000
Yeah, then I got like the
anger came out instead of the fear.

411
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:59.880
Good, Like, oh you can't
learn today, that's good. Here's the

412
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:07.079
hiding your ship final you said fund
all right. Later I was like,

413
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:14.519
whack die. It's like remebody seeing
my daughter this one time, like,

414
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:18.240
uh, what's it called? She
was after a bug and she's like kept

415
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:22.440
on smacking it and screaming as she
was like killing it. I was like

416
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:25.720
that was me in the dream because
like I'm like terrified, and like every

417
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.920
every smack I would also scream in
the dream, Like makes no sense.

418
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.559
It was just so funny. Yeah, that's so funny. But yeah that

419
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:37.440
was. And when when you first
saw it, like in the couch,

420
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:41.440
did it fit like standing up underneath
the couch, was it like lame,

421
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.799
like do you remember, oh girl, it was. It's like if it

422
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.279
was like pretend it was like hiding, like playing hide and seek with me,

423
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:53.519
dude. It was like on hiding
on the couch. Gross. So

424
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:57.640
what I don't like it's like when
something like peaks its dead like just slightly.

425
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:01.640
Oh my god, doesn't like it
makes my stomach drop, Like yeah,

426
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:05.799
to this day, like when I
say it, when like I'll I'll

427
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:08.519
do limp gas for my house like
regularly I did right before I started talking

428
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:15.519
to you guys. I need it
understandable before we before we end the episode,

429
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:17.559
we're gonna be like nothing, we
don't want anything here, like you're

430
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:22.519
not You're fine. I made sure
of it. Mean, but yeah,

431
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:27.039
it's kind of like it was high
like hiding, you know, purposely.

432
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.839
And that's why, like I'll even
do it like underneath the beds. You

433
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:32.160
know, I'll do it underneath the
beds. Pause, and I'll do it

434
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:36.359
underneath the couch. Since then,
you know, I've always done it because

435
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:38.680
of what happened. But yeah,
it's like I went down to reach the

436
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:43.559
pledge bottle. I guess that fell, you know, rolled underneath the couch

437
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:47.359
that's when I thought, like almost
like it made it fall under like so

438
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:52.960
that you would see it. Oh
yeah, oh my god, I never

439
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:58.160
thought of that before. Oh like
in your hand? What was it?

440
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.759
Just like standing there like you know
what I mean, you're right, I

441
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:06.720
put it down. I put it
down because I went to like I didn't

442
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:08.880
understand where it was. And then
y'all was like maybe it fell underneath like

443
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:13.839
so it's almost like it like put
it there, like oh, look,

444
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:15.960
come under here and check, like
trying to lure you. Oh that's what

445
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:19.519
they like to do though. They
move things, you know they do?

446
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.839
Yeah, yeah, I mean whenever
you can't find things, you're like,

447
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.200
oh, that's when this move.
Although like now I can't say that.

448
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:29.599
I'm pretty sure it was just me
and like my ADHD brain just forgot where

449
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:32.359
I put it. I almost wonder
like I don't know, is it really

450
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:39.079
when this or is it ADHD?
It's both or some people because it's like

451
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:43.440
listen, I have ADHD. I'm
not gonna blame you. You're not gonna

452
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:50.319
scare me with myself. That's crazy. That's terrifying though, because like I

453
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:52.119
don't I don't know how many things
I'm like oh where did I leave this?

454
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.759
And then I find it like months
later, and it's always like my

455
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:59.200
own stuff, everyone else's stuff.
I'm like, yes, that is I

456
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:04.519
saw it on the counter on the
second shelf in the left side, like

457
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:07.319
for some reason, everyone else's stuff. I'm like, yeah, right there,

458
00:34:07.159 --> 00:34:09.360
How could you not see it?
And then like right now I don't

459
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:15.159
know where my democrt is again.
No, Kyle's like, how you need

460
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:19.920
to stop losing it, and I'm
like I can't. I literally there was

461
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.320
an iPad that my mom left here
and she was like, oh, you

462
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:27.000
can use it, and I cannot
find it. God, I'm pretty sure

463
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.599
it's somewhere. But that's why I'm
like. I told Carmen once and I

464
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:31.800
was like, I think doing this
start taking things. She was like,

465
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:36.679
bitchest see you and I was like, yeah, okay, no, you're

466
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:43.840
right because there's nothing else happening,
just like my comfort. When I lose

467
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:45.840
stuff, it's like, well it
doesn't have legs, it's not gonna get

468
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:51.320
up and walk. I'll find it
eventually. Yeah. My mom would always

469
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:55.679
tell me to pray. She would
say say, and she say like,

470
00:34:55.760 --> 00:35:00.039
once you you ask it. Yeah, Like seriously, that's why my I

471
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:04.480
would do if you would lose something, I'll just say I lost my ID

472
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:08.599
not too long ago, and after, oh, you still haven't done that.

473
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:13.039
It was like two months ago that
I forgot what we were talking about,

474
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:15.280
and you were like, I don't
have my ID. No, because

475
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:17.719
I'm like, it's gonna turn up
somewhere. It will. Yeah, Because

476
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:23.119
I'm so stubborn, I spent I
spent like two months not ordering a new

477
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:28.559
also my also my ID, my
license. I spent like two months not

478
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:30.280
getting a new one because I was
like, no, we're gonna find it.

479
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:34.079
We're gonna find it. And then
Kyle and I were going to go,

480
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:36.760
like on a date night and we
dropped the kids off and everything,

481
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:38.480
and I was like, oh,
let's go to this. There's this brewery

482
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:44.400
called ghost Runners. They have really
good sandwiches and siders. And then I

483
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:45.679
was like, oh my god,
we can't go because I don't have my

484
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.000
license. And I was like,
oh my god, you never got a

485
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.760
new one, and what's wrong with
you? And I was like I thought

486
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:53.760
I was gonna find it. I
got a new one. It got here,

487
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:59.639
and then Sammy, my little almost
two year old, walks up with

488
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:02.239
my license my old one, and
I'm like, what the hell did he

489
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:06.599
find it? I don't know to
this day, I don't know where he

490
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.320
grabbed it from. I looked everywhere
for it. The minute my new one

491
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:13.119
got here, I paid for it, and then he walks up with my

492
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.039
old one and I'm like, oh
my god. So for me, it's

493
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.480
not the one this it's my kids
or me, like just yeah, losing

494
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:27.199
shit. I don't misplacing things.
There are little dwendous Yeah, they're you

495
00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:30.599
know, because they're cute and not
scary. Yeah, well sometimes they're scary,

496
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:31.679
but you know what, I know, the plays like, you know,

497
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:36.159
until like I don't know how long
ago, where I was like,

498
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:37.400
you know what, that's what it
was, because I always thought like,

499
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.760
oh my god, something like that
appeared to me. I never like put

500
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:43.880
two and two together that I was, you know, the one day and

501
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:47.239
then until I started like, you
know, really researching and gaining more knowledge

502
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:52.039
and you know about all this stuff. So yeah, crazy, yeah,

503
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:54.719
because I never called it the one
day before. I just said it was

504
00:36:54.760 --> 00:37:00.280
just this ugly, wrinkly old man, little person. And I remember remember

505
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.159
being small and at the time like
at the time when I was having the

506
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:07.559
nightmares. I would see like this
little person figure move throughout like my room

507
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:13.760
in the electronics like stuff, and
I would like just stay up awake watching

508
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:19.360
it. I just no, I
mean never did anything. But I remember

509
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:22.800
like saying like a I was like, oh my god, it's my Barbie

510
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:28.760
Dollar alive. Oh my god,
Jesus, No, No, this is

511
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:40.119
why I've never seen anything, because
like I said, yeah, one,

512
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:45.559
that's terrifying. One of I think
it was our first when the episode we

513
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:51.079
had a listener's story or something,
but someone said that they saw it.

514
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:55.519
And it's always like they look old
and they're so ugly and like they have

515
00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:00.679
these evil, sinister smiles. And
they said that they their room was like

516
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:07.239
in the hallway and like across from
their parents room and like the siblings room,

517
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:09.519
and so from her room she could
see the other two rooms in the

518
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:15.119
hallway and she saw the thing like
going from like wall to wall, like

519
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:20.760
from each side, like it would
jump from one side o that they jump

520
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:23.960
across. And yeah, yeah,
well at least think it. We've been

521
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:29.280
in the walls. They say they
live in the wall. That when you

522
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:31.880
said, V that like you saw
it coming like from behind the TV.

523
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:37.719
I was like, oh no,
right, I didn't know that. My

524
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:40.760
mom has never ever shared that story
with me. That's why it was.

525
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:45.239
It brought me like full body shells. I was like, I never told

526
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:47.519
you what it looked like. How
the hell could you like have described it?

527
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:52.800
You know what I mean, Like, just it's crazy, so horrible.

528
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:57.000
What what made you realize there was
more than one? You know?

529
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:00.440
I think it was actually the same
one that appeared to my mom. I

530
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:05.000
think it appeared to her in her
dreams. And because, like I said,

531
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.360
my parents were like my protectors.
You know, I can't even tell

532
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:12.199
you how many priests have been in
our house because of me, Like I

533
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:19.159
got an idea from listening to your
podcast, because it was but it was

534
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:22.119
never like, you know, like
I was possessed or anything. My parents

535
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.800
were not like that, like extreme, but they were always like she's special,

536
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:28.320
like she has gifts, like we
have to protect her. So I

537
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:31.039
think it was like because as a
mother, like our love for her children,

538
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:36.280
like I think that things like to
like play on that and like,

539
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.119
but my mom was just like okay, like she woke up, she said,

540
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:42.719
she prayed, and she's like I
didn't dream of that again. But

541
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:44.440
you know, I was like,
yeah, Mom, I think it kind

542
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:46.079
of went to like like taunt her
almost, you know what I mean,

543
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:52.000
because she didn't believe in it,
or at least she she almost like I

544
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:54.840
don't know how how do I say
it? Like she went against it in

545
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:59.760
a way because she was just like
you know, you know. So it's

546
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:02.440
just weird though, because like I
never told her, And that's why I

547
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:06.840
think till this day, I'm just
like it solidifies not that I I've doubted

548
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:10.079
myself, but I think for so
long when things happen like as they have

549
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:14.079
to me, like I've had to
shut that off for such a long time

550
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:17.679
and I literally had to put it
into like a little compartment in my brain

551
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:21.159
and just like leave it there for
like many years because I was just like

552
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:22.719
I don't want to deal with it. I want to be normal. So

553
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:27.400
i'd like, what almost my son
is going to be nine, I'd say,

554
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.599
like about ten years ago, I
really started opening up again, and

555
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:34.519
but you know I thought of it. I'm just like, nah, like

556
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:38.679
my mom can solidify that for me, and that that makes me feel like

557
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:42.599
I'm not crazy, you know what
I mean. Like I really did have

558
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:46.199
all these experiences, you know what
I mean. So yeah, and it's

559
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:50.000
like when you're a kid, you
have a wild imagination, so you don't

560
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.719
know what's your imagination. Yeah,
and what's like, what's the COVID.

561
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.559
It always helps that your parents.
Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. When

562
00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:59.519
I was ten, I figured out
that the home I grew up and it's

563
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:02.079
my very first episode. I talked
about it for my podcast. There's this

564
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:05.719
old man I used to see.
I used to call him Bob, I

565
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:08.400
remember, and like my mom is
like, you know are we were talking

566
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:12.119
about our house in Colorado, which
is just like it was a great house.

567
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:15.559
It's just we had there were two
deaths there. The old man that

568
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.239
passed away there from a heart attack. He fell down the stairs, which

569
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:22.880
is you know downstairs. It was
like a bi level house, so downstairs

570
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:27.920
is where I would see him.
So after we moved out, another family

571
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:32.400
moved in and the husband died from
a heart attack as well. But my

572
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:35.639
mom just holding you know, yeah, there used to be an old a

573
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:37.920
couple that used to live there before
us. And I said, well there

574
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:43.000
was an old man I used to
see the house. Oh my god.

575
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.880
Yeah, and he was so sweet, he was so nice. He was

576
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:47.920
just like this, like a pure
angel. I think I was literally seeing

577
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:52.920
an angel because he was. He
was so pure and friendly and he would

578
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:57.039
protect me against the bad things.
So yeah, I love that. Good.

579
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:02.119
Yeah, good, because you rarely
hear those. Yeah I've seen.

580
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:06.880
Not like there's more I should I
should be more positive because there's been a

581
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:10.159
lot more positive than negative. The
negative, you know, they're just the

582
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:16.000
stories that was that we all are. I like to read no my when

583
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:21.199
I live, I guess no.
Things have always seemed to follow my brother

584
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:24.280
around, like and my mom,
Carmen, And I've said this so many

585
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:28.679
times that me and Carmen, we
could be happening right in front of us

586
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:31.719
and we would never know it.
Like our house when we were in living

587
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:36.400
in Oakland, like I think we
were there until we turned six. Maybe

588
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:38.400
that house so many people have stories
about the house. There's a room my

589
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:42.760
brother absolutely refused to go and it
was supposed to be his room. He

590
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:45.119
would not go in there. That
room was always colder. I remember that.

591
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:49.320
But like other than that, I
never heard any of like the footsteps

592
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:53.800
people said they heard, like people
felt scratches in the shower or like like

593
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:59.079
something touching them but there was nothing
obviously no one else in there, and

594
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.719
I never felt Me and Carmen were
like, really, wow, we had

595
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:06.840
no idea. And then it like
every house we went to there were things

596
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:09.320
like that, and so whene of
our houses. We were in Modesto,

597
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:14.719
California at the time, and my
brother's room was right next two hours and

598
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:17.800
they were the last ones in the
hall, and then from the outside you

599
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:22.480
could see our backyard from mine and
Carmen's room. His room that was like

600
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:27.400
kind of it was like weirdly shase, so it was next to but sort

601
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:30.000
of also in front, kind of
like diagonal actually now that I think about

602
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.960
it. So from his room it
was the window was there, but it

603
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:38.199
wasn't the backyard yet, it was
like the side of the house. Yeah.

604
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:42.599
And there wasn't an N street,
it was the N street and so

605
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.639
it was like the end of the
street. And he always said that he

606
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:50.559
would see something walk outside, like
I don't know, something dark at like

607
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:55.840
a dark shadow walking outside, and
that, yeah, it's terrible, and

608
00:43:55.840 --> 00:44:01.559
then I felt sinister. But he
would also say because we have always the

609
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:07.440
way we were raised, like my
great grandpa passed away before we could meet

610
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:12.840
him, because you know immigrant families, and so after he passed away,

611
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:15.239
my mom always was like, oh, he's our protector. We're gonna if

612
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:20.239
we were going anywhere, we're like
me Bellow keep us safe. That's just

613
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:22.960
what we did. And so my
my brother said that there were nights where

614
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:29.599
he if he dreamt about me Bellow
or like thought he saw his spirit Mebello,

615
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:34.599
he didn't see that shadow man walking
by. So he always said that

616
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:38.039
me Bellow would protect him from whatever
this other thing was. But there were

617
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:44.280
nights where maybe I don't know,
maybe below was busy somewhere else, hoping

618
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:46.719
someone else and he couldn't go with
my brother, And those were the knights

619
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:52.639
where he heard the walking outside and
he saw the shadow and like I don't

620
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:57.360
remember if he ever said that he
saw it looking inside. I know I

621
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:01.079
was terrified of like even sleep being
in his room. Like there was one

622
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:07.119
episode Karmen was on with me and
you were not MJ and we were talking

623
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.840
about it because there was we got
into it. We were always fighting and

624
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:14.519
then like making up because you know, three siblings. And one time my

625
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:16.840
mom was like, you know what, I'm so tired of this because you

626
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:21.920
were fighting I'm making me. She
made me sleep in his room and then

627
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:25.480
made him sleep in my bed,
and because me and Karmen had two separate

628
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:29.320
twin beds in our room, and
he was like, he's going to sleep

629
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:31.679
over there because and I don't know
what kind of pleasurement that was, but

630
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:36.440
I was so scared in his room. Oh no, I slept under the

631
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.920
blankets the whole time. I barely
even slept. I just felt like so

632
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:43.360
much anxiety. And I don't know
if I was obviously from all his stories,

633
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:46.440
I think I scared myself more.
I didn't see anything, but I

634
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:50.960
just felt so cold and so scared
in there. Oh my god. Oh

635
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:54.880
no, you don't think that your
brother and your mom maybe like mediums,

636
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:59.519
maybe, you know, because it
seems like they're more inclined to be more

637
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:02.960
open. My mom was told when
she she would go because there's so many

638
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:07.840
stories my great grandma which they said
that she would go to all these boucas

639
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:14.800
to like put curses on me people
she was she was, yeah, she

640
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:17.199
was something else, yeah, And
and my mom would go with her.

641
00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:21.559
She would take my mom with her. And one lady told my mom like,

642
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:22.800
oh, you have a done,
you have the gifts, like I

643
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:27.840
can teach you, I can teach
you to use this, and my mom

644
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.519
was too scared. She was like
no, and she's been told by other

645
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:35.519
people that are mediums like you you
can, you can become a medium,

646
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:38.199
you can you know, lean into
it more, but she's never wanted to

647
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:43.639
because of all the horrible, terrifying
experiences. Yeah it's cool, it's cool,

648
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:45.239
you know, that's what That's what
I was for so long was scared.

649
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:50.679
But you know, I've been helping
people for the past what Sammy's gonna

650
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:52.960
be five now, so like five
years doing it. I mean like I

651
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:58.119
took this year break because like doing
it for four years straight, I'm just

652
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.679
like I've been exhausted. I was
like, I have to take I bet,

653
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:04.440
I bet, And it seems like
that takes more like energy so much.

654
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.880
Yeah, so I very limit.
Yeah, I totally limit. I

655
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:10.239
don't do a lot of the olympias
that I was doing on like people and

656
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:14.840
houses and you know. But yeah, you know, my nana would always

657
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:17.480
tell me I should always say you
have that gift. And I never was

658
00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:22.760
like what does that mean until I
really was like looking into that. But

659
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.519
yeah, that's crazy. I didn't
know that about your mom. Yeah,

660
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:30.199
yeah, she and she's had some
yeah, such scary stories. There's I

661
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:32.039
have been saying this since we started
the podcast. There's one story that I've

662
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:37.079
only heard parts of because I'm I've
always been so scared to like listen to

663
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:42.079
the full story, but like just
a terrible hunting and like maybe Wednesday,

664
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:44.800
we'll make this into a movie and
it's going to be called The Hunting of

665
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:49.559
Maria. Oh my god, I
love it though, Yeah, so nobody

666
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:52.159
take that from me. Okay,
I'm gonna patent the title, like copyrighting

667
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:59.400
now, grade market, get all
that. But yeah, that story is

668
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:01.960
so scary and maybe one day I'll
record her, but I'm so scared to

669
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:06.320
record her. And then have you
listened to it again and again to translated?

670
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:10.400
I thought of it terrifices me.
If you need help, I would

671
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:14.519
do it during the day because at
one time that you sent me the what's

672
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:16.800
the name of this deep Spanish?
Oh yeah, like at three am?

673
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:21.039
Three, I was like, but
what what bad choices did it mean?

674
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.079
I kept I kept listening to it
again and again. It was like one

675
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:25.760
am, and I was like,
what the fuck am I doing? I

676
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:30.119
don't want to hear this. I'm
like, you sent it to me and

677
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:34.760
then like the thing the thing for
me on on my end would popped up

678
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:38.119
was like, uh like Google,
I think Google or Siri I can't remember

679
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:40.199
which one, but one of the
two trying to say it in and I

680
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:45.199
was like, no, exit out
right now. Yeah, we're not doing

681
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:49.320
this. Yeah, and I was
like, no, no, I'm not

682
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:51.719
doing this during the day. I
mean during the day, during the night

683
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:58.280
again. Yeah, oh no,
they've learned my lessons. Yeah, that

684
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:04.559
is terrifying. I don't like on
this and no, no, I'm I'm

685
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.320
very grateful. I've never seen one. I hear that like every everybody's house

686
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:13.800
has one, supposedly really yeah,
like uh when you're the cast of like

687
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:20.880
everybody has like a house spirit minus
like on vacation or something or just extremely

688
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:22.840
the one here is very quiet or
like I said, I don't notice it.

689
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:28.360
Yeah, I don't know. It's
it's mine is competing with the shadow

690
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:31.519
people I see. Oh no,
like who's gonna scare her today. I'm

691
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:35.920
like, listen, I can't no
time for either of you. And even

692
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:38.679
if you do something, it's you
have a nine percent chance that I'm not

693
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:44.800
going to see it, like like
maladaptive dreaming, day dreaming over here,

694
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:47.800
or like I brush it off as
something and forget about it two seconds later,

695
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:54.039
M it's not gonna work. It's
not gonna work. Yeah, yeah,

696
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:57.480
I don't know because I leave doors
open all the time. And when

697
00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:00.360
did I open that? Did I
close that? I don't know, So

698
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:04.639
yeah, I wouldn't notice any any
haunting even if it. I mean,

699
00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:07.000
okay, I think I've told I
don't. I've told you I'm j and

700
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:08.360
I've said on the podcast. But
there was one time, but I think

701
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:13.599
it was just me being still sleep
deprived, because like little Sammy was like

702
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:15.519
I don't know, a month old
maybe, And I was walking to the

703
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:19.199
room and I could have sworn I
heard like a distant my mom, but

704
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:21.639
I didn't even turn. I was
like, nope, no, if we

705
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:23.920
are not doing I will not acknowledge
that. I'm just gonna go and see

706
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:28.480
that I did. And then I've
never never heard anything else. But I

707
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.440
know every time my mom starts saying
something, I just cut her off and

708
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:34.880
I'm like I don't want to hear
this, and then I'm like close my

709
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:37.719
my, put my hands over my
ears and then I'm blah blah blah,

710
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:38.960
and I just like walk away,
like no, I will, I'm not

711
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:43.559
hearing this. But she's like she's
like, hey, I thought I heard

712
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:45.760
like a little laugh in my stepson's
room. And I was like, nope.

713
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:52.480
I used to yeah, I people
like me and my cousin, like

714
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:55.440
when we were moving to the place
that I currently am now, which happened

715
00:50:55.679 --> 00:51:00.440
back in twenty thirteen, when we
weren't actually living here yet. We were

716
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:04.920
still technically living at the other place, but like we're kind of moving within

717
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:07.840
the week, and we're, you
know, we just got the U haul

718
00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:13.639
and we're taking stuff from the U
haul up to the apartment because I live

719
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:17.880
on the second floor. And then
me and my cousin both heard like a

720
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:22.800
little girl laugh and we were like
we're like, oh no. And then

721
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:27.880
like she always happens to me and
my cousin. I called my cousin.

722
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:31.599
He's my husband's cousin, but it
was my parent. And then my husband

723
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:37.039
wasn't even like with us. He
was like down in the U haul and

724
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:42.440
we were in what's supposed to be
my son's room. I was like nope.

725
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:45.880
I was like, fuck this shit, we're done for today, late

726
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:50.039
at night, and I was like
this little kid giggling. And then it

727
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:53.599
was like also coincided with my son's
birthday because that my son's birthday party was

728
00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:58.880
that week. So he had like
this gift bag that you had to press

729
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:01.559
the buttons and stuff for and but
you had to press it's like you have

730
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:04.360
to click it, you know what
I'm talking about, Like it you have

731
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:07.679
to press it pretty hard, and
for the gifts back to like even thing

732
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:13.320
like happy Birthday or whatever. And
it started playing by itself and it did

733
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:16.400
it only once, but it was
so freaky because it wasn't something that was

734
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:19.880
easy to press, like you had
to put a little bit of force into

735
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:22.199
into the little i don't know,
the on button to click or whatever you

736
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:25.039
want to call it. Yeah,
and we were just like staring at each

737
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:28.559
other's like we just heard the little
kid's voice. Now this year, I

738
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:30.719
was like, let's go. It's
late at night, we're leaving, We're

739
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:37.920
done. Yeah yeah, oh no
yeah, And then like like now once

740
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:43.400
in a while, we have like
something you hear, like something like rummaging

741
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:47.480
through the toys. M but oh
no, nope, nope, I'm like

742
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:51.519
you. You just don't make a
mess. Okay, yeah, I just

743
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:55.440
cleaned up. No clean up while
you're here. Yeah, in this house

744
00:52:55.440 --> 00:53:00.880
we pick up our toys. I
don't like it. I don't like to

745
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:06.960
when this. Well, before we
go, do you have anything else to

746
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:09.840
add about this? At the end, we always do spooky recommendations, so

747
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:15.480
we'll do that unless you have anything
else to add on the good Okay,

748
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:19.360
terrify. You're here for your terrifying
stories and they were terrifying. You delivered

749
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:30.760
as always. Okay, Well,
do either of you have any spooky recommendations?

750
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:36.159
M I don't know. I don't
think so, not against any show.

751
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:39.360
Movie. I am going to start
what's it called today, the new

752
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:45.360
series of Interview with the Vampire holds
Up to the holds up to the movie.

753
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:52.760
So I've never seen the movie either. Love it's amazing. I hear

754
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:57.079
it's the Vampire Classes it is.
It's amazing, you know what I do.

755
00:53:57.440 --> 00:53:59.320
I'll have to say to you.
I forgot the name of it,

756
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:04.599
but I was on TikTok. There's
this new movie coming out June seventeenth,

757
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:08.719
and it's about like I saw this
scene where the guy is like literally in

758
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:14.800
the woods, and he here's a
skinwalker. Oh like naked. There's like

759
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.679
this guy naked in a field and
he's like hell, hell, like over

760
00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:21.679
and over like, oh, this
looks good. I'll have to send it

761
00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:23.840
to you guys right now, I'll
send it to Yes, it looks so

762
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:30.599
speaking of that, For whatever reason, my TikTok lately has been like people

763
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:37.320
of like both like in Latin America
and you know, so Spanish speakers and

764
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:42.440
which I you know, coincidentally sent
you that that that YouTube link the other

765
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:45.639
day. Was it yesterday when you
were like remember the podcast? Yes,

766
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:49.079
so they were talking about it too. But it's been like a whole thing

767
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:52.800
on my TikTok and on like several
of my social media's of people telling others

768
00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:57.960
do not whistle in the wood?
No? And yeah, And I'm like,

769
00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:00.480
why is like the universal me not
to whistle? Like I could hardly

770
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:02.800
whistle. Why would I be whistling
in the woods. I don't even go

771
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:07.480
anywhere. But it's like the universe
is like here, just in case you

772
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:12.760
decided to do some random camping this
summer. Don't the woods? No,

773
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:20.199
no, never, never, you
know they say that whistling brings on I

774
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:23.519
don't know. Yeah, yeah,
that's I'm like, whenever I hear the

775
00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:25.639
ALB, I'm gonna tell my son, hey, stop whistling, no,

776
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:30.440
because he likes to whistle. Yeah
no, no, no, mmmmm.

777
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:37.519
I don't even know how that's on
the South. Yeah, okay, well

778
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:43.239
my recommendation. It's not spooky.
It's more like funny slash sci fi.

779
00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:45.280
But I don't know if you either
of you listen to audio drama podcasts.

780
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:51.039
I sometimes do, sometimes don't.
But there's one I just found. It's

781
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:57.360
called Midnight Burger, and uh,
it's like this this restaurant that time travels

782
00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:01.519
throughout space and time. It's like
a Doctor Who version of our restaurant almost

783
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:07.679
it's it's and then it's like only
five. Yeah. So there's the main

784
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:12.440
person. Her name is Gloria.
She like stumbles into this restaurant because there

785
00:56:12.440 --> 00:56:15.079
she saw a job application. She
gets there and like the guy working there,

786
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:17.840
Casper, has no idea and like
where you see this ad? And

787
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:22.159
she's like, what's happening? This
is the worst job interview ever. And

788
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:27.000
then the whole restaurant like moves to
another place and she's like, what the

789
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:30.239
hell just happened? And it just
it's just like Wacky Adventures in Space in

790
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:34.960
this little restaurant. It's a fun. Yeah, it's a fun podcast and

791
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:37.960
they do like I think it's like
one episode a month. It's been going

792
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:42.719
for maybe two years now, and
they have like forty centing episodes. I

793
00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:45.239
think I'm like on eleven or twelve
right now. But yeah, they're it's

794
00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:50.960
very fun to recommend it. That's
awesome. Yeah, yeah, it's a

795
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:54.039
lot of fun. But yeah,
before we go, you don't have new

796
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:58.519
episodes currently, but the old episode
is one hundred percent worth listening to if

797
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:01.119
you want to tell everyone the name
of your podcast and where to find it

798
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:06.679
obviously wherever you find podcasts, but
yeah, everywhere you can find podcasts.

799
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:09.559
Yeah, my show is Life Care
Normal with v I have been taking a

800
00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:13.960
little break. It's been you know, nuts over here. But you guys,

801
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:16.880
can you know, stream my old
episodes and you know, hopefully I'll

802
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:20.880
get back into it. That's the
goal. That's my goal. I already

803
00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:22.840
have some really good, you know
stories lined up and people that want to

804
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:25.880
come on, so yeah, just
check it out. Life Care Normal with

805
00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:30.840
the I've said this before, but
it's like you you hear terrifying stories,

806
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:36.079
but also v is like so empathetic
and carrying that. By the end of

807
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:39.599
it, you're like, I feel
better even though I was scared. Like

808
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:43.280
yeah, right, that's the whole
point of the show is like, you

809
00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:47.039
know, for people have had these
experiences and you you know, you're told

810
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:51.519
that you're crazy or you know,
society makes you feel that way. You

811
00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:53.079
know, there's it's like a safe
space, you know, where we can

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talk about those things. Yeah,
it really is. It really is.

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If anyone doesn't know where to start. I never started the beginning of like

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episodes, I jump around, but
the one you have your cousin on and

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you guys are talking about I don't
know if it was his house. Some

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your cousin's on and you guys are
talking about a haunted house that I remember,

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and I'm like, wow, that
was a really good episode, So

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start on that episode if you don't
know where to start. I think it

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was with my episode two. I
think there was. It mustn't be.

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Yeah, it was good. Yeah, we were talking about my das house,

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her haunted house. That's what I
was. I was like, I

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remember, yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, that's an excellent episode to

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start on. But yeah, I
listen to all of it. It's going

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to be linked in the show notes. Thank you so much for taking the

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time out of your busy ass.
I love it. I love talking to

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you guys. I missed you.
Thank you. Yeah. Has it had

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been too long? Yeah? Yeah, too too long? Too long?

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Yeah? And then I don't know, don't yeah, don't whistle? And

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and the what did we say for
us or jungle? But whistle? Or

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do anything for nature? How about
that? Don't go in nature? How

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about that? And noted avoid nature
at all costs. Yes, still glamping

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if you have to. Yeah,
stay spooky and we'll catch everyone next time.

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Bye, bye bye. Spooky Tails
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produced and edited by Christina. Everything
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with the help of Don Shout Out
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adorable beanie that I love. I
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it's warm, it has spooky and
old English letters. There's also a baseball

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hat in the same way, a
spooky and old English letters, and that's

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when I wear in the summers.
They're both awesome hats. And there's other

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things in there, like the Nommas
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If you like history, check out
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And if you like novels, check
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host together. And yeah, we
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you so much. Stay as spooky