Aug. 29, 2025

David the Ghost With Prisca Dorcas Mojica Rodriguez

David the Ghost With Prisca Dorcas Mojica Rodriguez
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(00:00:00) Intro
(00:07:39) Listener Story
(00:14:49) Prisca's Ghost Stories
(01:03:49) Outro

Prisca Dorcas Mojica Rodriguez joined Carmen and Cristina to share some ghost stories, but they also talked about tarot, fortune tellers, Leo things and birthday plans. Prisca is an amazing storyteller, author and has been such an important voice for Latinas for years and years now.

https://www.priscadorcas.com/

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Hi, this is Christina and Carmen, and this is another

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episode of as Spooky Tales, the podcast for all things

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as Spoogy true crime in dat in America. But today

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today's a special episode. Today's the most special episode of

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a mom. Yes, because we had the most amazing guests ever.

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We were sonorous before recording. But let's let's say who

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the guest is before we go on about how we

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were growing up and crying. That's wedding like a my

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Dame and a song. Yes, Mom, spaghetti. Yeah, our guest

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today Rodriguez. Yes, the author of two books that we

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adore so much, for brown Girls with sharp edges and

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tender love and and Primas unknowing and loving the woman

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who raised us. And let me just say, these books

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I've never felt so seen. They must read, Yes, truly, truly, Yeah,

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for anyone. But not only is she the author of

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these bugs, but she has been a long time important

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Latina voice in my life. And then mine answer you

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told me after you sent me countless posts from Latina

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Rebels on Instagram. Yeah, I mean, I can't even remember

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how I came across Latina Rebels Apisca, but I have

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been following Pisca since I was a baby in my twenties,

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a younger baby, because you're still a baby course of course. Yeah.

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And I mean I could go on and on about

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how much I have learned, how amazing she is, on

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and on. We could. We could write a book about

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how much we left Prisca. I even she had a

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podcast for a bit and I listened to that. I

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didn't even know that, Oh that's a fan, that's a

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deep cut, that's a deep I was like tea or

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something like. I forgot what it was called, but in it, okay,

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I had no idea. Wow, but yeah, she came on.

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We have to say. So I was listening to and

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Prettymas and Carmen had already read it before me, but

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there was a section of Pretty Mass talking about the

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spookya who's his ghosts? And then I was like, well,

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Prisca obviously has ghost stories then, and so I was

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listening to it, and I was like, because we followed

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each other already, I just messaged her and I was

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dying inside because look, I know, I know Carmen and

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I are both like Leo's but we don't we promote ourselves,

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so we don't We're introvert leos if you will are Yeah,

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And isn't like you have to know us for us

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to really come out of our shell. Yeah, that's what

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I was just gonna say, Like, we have to already

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know each other like comfortably for us to appear like extroverts.

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You're not. We're most definitely not. No, if we're standing

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in line somewhere, I'm not going to make a conversation.

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Oh no, No, I don't think I've ever started a coment.

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People only start conversations with me. Yeah, we very much

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don't fit into that stereotype. But so I was dying

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a Messagingskay. I was like, I'm listening to this right now,

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and I think you have ghost stories? Can you come

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on the podcast and talk about ghost stories? And then

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she was like, oh my god, I'm dying. I'm so nervous. Yes,

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And I was like, no, pe Scott, we're dying, and

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it just we're just like her. Yes, yes, and now

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we're planning a trip to go to Nashville to go

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goat hunting. Yes, yes, but let me do a professional

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bio in case people don't know right right who Priscuy is.

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For some reason, for some goddamn reason. If you don't know,

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then you better get acquainted, Okay. Soguez was born in Manawanikarawa,

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but she calls Nashville, Tennessee home, which is why I

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said we're going to go there. She's a feminist, a theologian, storyteller,

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and an advocate. She got her Masters of Divinity from

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Vanderbilt University's Divinity School in the spring of twenty fifteen.

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She's a respective storyteller who has traveled across the USA

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telling stories to countless college and university students. She merges

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storytelling with pedic like I'm not aild degree. Thank you,

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pedagog Yes, thank you, I did read that book pedagogy.

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Oh what's called? I know what we we're talking about now,

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to help folks understand the larger forces at play aka

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systemic oppression as a first generation student and immigrant, and

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her passion is in naming the experiences of first generation

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students samgane systems not built for them. And literally, if

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you read like any of her books, it's that's what

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That's what I'm saying. I never felt so seen truly, truly.

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She's the oldest immigrant daughter and again not an eldest

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daughter in God oldest daughter. You and me and Christine

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are collectively the eldest daughters. That's twins together. And yeah, yeah,

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although I will say like spiritually I am the eldest daughter,

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I feel like in some way actually I think it

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splits between us and right, Yeah, sometimes I am and

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sometimes you are. We have different eldest daughter responsibilities within

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our family dynamic. Wow, this is crazy because they're twins.

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It's because we also have the one brains. Also that

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we do have one brain zone. Yeah, and this last

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part here, she is unapologetic, angry, and uncompromising about protecting

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and upholding the stories of LATINX communities. Oh my god. Yeah, yes,

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and that how was our guest today? And let's, I

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guess get into the episode unless you have anything else

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to say, no other than it was the best thing ever.

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It was. It was the best thing ever. Okay, let's yeah,

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let's get into it. Hi, this is Christina. That wasn't me,

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That was a kermis. But I'm also here, and we're

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here with Prisca. We're so excited. You already heard our intro.

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We are fangirling and sweating a little bit on all accounts.

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Yeah, yeah, this is like one of my favorite podcasts.

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I've been reading and looking forward to it at the

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same time.

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That's exactly what we've been feeling. Wow wow yeah, yeah, yeah,

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be the same. And yeah, we have a listener story

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like always, If anyone wants to send us your stories,

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please do because we're running out. You can email Spooky

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at gmail dot com. You can DM us on any

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of our socials. You can call it a Spooky hotline.

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There's so many ways to get us your stories. So also,

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I hope I haven't read this one. I Usually the

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way I can tell if I read it already is

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because there's like a thing that I forwarded it to

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Carmen and this one didn't have that. So people will

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let us know if I read it already. But I

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don't recognize it. So, so have you read one before

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or like twice? I've done it like three times. Probably

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I never noticed. Yeah, the listeners noticed, though, some of them.

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They're like, hey, you read this already, And I'm like, oops,

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my bad. Do I need a better system? Yes, well

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I get one, No, all right, so yeah again, let

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me know if it's a repeat. All right. The first

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time I saw the hat Man, I was about eight

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years old. We lived in a haunted house in the

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country in a small town in Idaho. Each of my

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family members has a story, including the non believers, but

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this is the main one that affected me and some

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of my nieces. I used to sleep in the living

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room because I was the youngest of ten and we

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only had three bedrooms. My brother even had to sleep

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in a trailer out back because there was no room me.

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Mammy used to keep night lights on so no one

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would trip going to the bathroom, but they used to

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create shadows on the walls. One of the shadows was

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the hat Man. He was tall and thin and had

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a fedora hat with a long cloak with the collar

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turned up, not a fedora and the collar up. Okay

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that I had not heard a description of the hat

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man with this. This is the hat man from the

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two thousands, I think so. Yeah, he graduated high school

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in twenty ten. Wait were people still doing that the

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pop collar? Yeah? I think so. I don't remember. I

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think it was a little bit before to whatever going.

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Okay, it was my It was like two thousand and five.

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My era. Okay, that's when this hat man was in school,

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all right. He was more of a shadow. I could

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see through him, and he would stretch himself to an

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impossible height and had really long fingers and sharp teeth.

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I remember in the first years, I wouldn't get sleep paralysis,

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and I could move. I would usually cover my head

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with my blanket and say the me that prayer. This

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is in parentheses. I'm no longer religious, but I still

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say this. I'm scared same. Eventually I would fall asleep

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and wake up safe. One day I saw him in

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the daytime. It was April and I was eleven, so

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this would have been in two thousand and one. I

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saw the hat man off and on, but this was

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the first time I would see him in the light.

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Since we lived in the country, the bus had to

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pick us up, and it was always too early, like

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six forty five am. By now, all my siblings had

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moved out and I was the only one left. I

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would usually go out to wait for the bus ten

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minutes or ten minutes early, because if I missed it,

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no one would be home to take me. I should

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also mention we had no close neighbors. The nearest ones

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were half a mile away, and we were surrounded by

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fields and a patch of sagebrush the desert. I was

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gonna say, dessert desert across the street. Welcome to Idaho. Lol.

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It sounds terrible, but there was a river nearby. Often

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in the early mornings there would be a thick, heavy

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fog that would settle over the area, and that day

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the fog was thick. I remember looking to my right

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to try and see if I could see the bus's

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fog lights blinking in the distance. Instead, I saw him,

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the tall hat man, looking extremely tall and thin that day.

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Even though he was at the stop sign that was

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about a block away, I could tell he was smiling,

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and he was starting to run towards me. Oh my god,

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I panicked. But then I saw the lights of the

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bus like a beacon in the fog. I started to

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pray the bus would get here before him, and watched

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with hopeful eyes as the bus passed through him. But

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he was not far behind. I had to cross the

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street to get on the bus, and normally the bus

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driver puts on the stop sign and motions for me

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to pass, but I was now waiting that day. By

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the time the bus stopped, I was already across the

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street trying to open the damn bus doors myself. The

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hat man was so close I could see his coat

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was tattered and his mouth was wide open, showing his

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sharp white teeth. I jumped in the bus and yelled

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at the driver to close the door. She was shocked

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and asked if I was okay. I turned around and

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the hat man was gone. Embarrassed, I said I was

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just cold, sorry, and I sat in my seat. That

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was the one and only time I saw him in

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the daylight. Incidentally, I recently found out my nieces also

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saw him when they stayed over at my parents' house,

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but they never told me until we had all grown up.

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As a teen, I started to have sleep prolysses, and

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he would often make an appearance. Usually he'd be at

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the foot of my bed or in my doorway watching me.

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This usually happened if I was stressed or anxious over something,

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which was all the time. Then in my early twenties,

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I started to get new sleep prelessis demons appearing. The

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next one I can only describe as being smooth and gray,

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almost alien like. Instead of eyes and a mouth, it

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had empty sockets that seemed to go on forever. This

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one was cruel, as it would have mimicked the voice

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of my husband would hold me while I was on

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my side, like we were spooning. The third one was

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almost funny, like it was a fuzzy puffball and it

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made grumlin noises at the foot of my bed. By

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the time I was twenty nine, I've had enough. I

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asked my mom to do a Lympia on me, as

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I hadn't been sleeping for three weeks, and each time

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I did, I saw one of those pincha lemonios. She did,

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and after that I could finally sleep. I'm now thirty

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two and I no longer see any sleep demons. I

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so get sleep prolyssis, but it's mostly me saying no

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as I started to come out of it. Hopefully I

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never see them again, Yes, hopefully, because wow, that's that's terrifying.

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I can't wait. They held out on Olympia for twenty

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nine years, right, yeah, that would have been me on

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day one. What is that thing?

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I feel like I've heard of the hat man. There's

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like a lore about it. What are they? They're like

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certain type of things that people A lot of people

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see them?

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And my wrong?

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Or am I just two? In the spooky podcast.

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Real No No, yeah, it's a very very common thing

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that people see. There's also there was a TikTok challenge

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where people were like chugging benadryl to see if they

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would And I don't I don't recommend this at all,

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Like I don't know, I didn't know about that. Yeah,

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they were chugging benadru and then at some point this

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would make you see the hat Man. But some people

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don't need benadrul to see them. Some people just see

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them all over the world. Yeah, there's even a website

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like hat Man stories dot com or something like that.

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That's not the name but of it. Okay, okay, that's fine. Yeah,

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it's like he's a shadow, a specific type of shadow people.

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But people see shadow people all the time, and some

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people think they're like demonic other people think they're angels.

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Other people think they're like omens that come to warn you.

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And I think, like most commonly people see them when

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they're stressed. So I don't want to I ever see one,

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So k one would Yeah, neither, because it's right next

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to me and I'm in a very tiny space. What

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I want to know is if the different oh wait

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that not all the shadow people wore hats. I was

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gonna say, there's a different hat men in different countries

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they wear like their regional hat where, you know what

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I mean, Like in Mexico, did somebody at all?

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Right?

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And then like or even Texas. Yeah, you know, I

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don't know, like a Fedora in the two thousands, you

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know what I mean? I honestly only ever heard of

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them more in like a Fedora type hat. Oh what

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did I think? It was like a long hat, like yeah,

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like Abe Lincoln. I was just going to say, yeah,

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that's what I know. I think it's like a shorter hat. Yeah,

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like a shorter than a top hat. So yeah, I

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guess fedora is really the best description. Okay, well that

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was the listener story. And now pretty Scott Carmen and

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I read yes and pretty Mass and I don't remember

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if it was a it was a not a pretty Mas,

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right the paranormal?

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Yeah yeah, yeah, who sees phantasmas?

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Yes? Yes, And while we are not her because we

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don't see fantasmas, I think we're very like closed off.

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We were like our mom, is this this dia? For sure?

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Just too many eghost stories. They're all terrifying. And that

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chapter I was like oh, well, police Gut probably has

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ghost stories. So where do we even start? First? I

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remember radio episode where you said your apartment was haunted.

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Yeah, I've lived in two places that were haunted. One

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was my parents and then now where I'm living in

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this place.

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But yeah, I'm pretty sure I spooked him. But my parents.

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One was a woman and it was in my brother's room.

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She just stayed there, so I never saw her, but

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everybody knew about her. I don't know if that makes sense.

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Like my brother was like I woke up on sleep

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paralysis and I saw this woman standing and my sister

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had a dream and she saw her and I just

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felt her. It was like that like if his room

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if the house it was night and his room was

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open and dark. I hated walking through that.

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Oh my god.

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And we shared a bathroom. My sister and I had

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this one room together. He had his own bedroom and

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we shared a bathroom. And you know, like the door

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connects you can open like a little fake it's a

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real door, but it slides in. It's like a pocket

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door that would go to his room. And if he

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left it open, I'd be still pissed, like I'd like,

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you know, like yourself right, Like I'd like reach in

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and close it before I go to go into the bathroom,

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because like she was terrifying.

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I hated being home alone. My mom.

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She always says, we, uh, we didn't let her learn

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English because she started taking classes in the community college

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and we called her crying, me and my sister because

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she left us alone and we were like, she's here,

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She's gonna come and get us. Yeah, so she blames

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us for not learning English, right, right, English?

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Oh my god? Yeah.

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Yeah, so we all the kids felt her. My mom

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she if if she got too carried away made us

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more scared. My dad would get mad at her because

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then they couldn't do shit without us, So she had

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to like pretend that it wasn't real, even though we

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would catch moments where she'd be like, oh, that scared me.

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I think I saw something or whatever. She would like

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mention it, but then my dad would give her like

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shut the fuck up by.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, So we grew up with that. And then this

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house has a man. Yeah, and which one's worse.

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I don't know if.

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I'm just in a better space as a kid. You're

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so vulnerable, you can't believe I couldn't drive. I couldn't,

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you know what I mean, Like.

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I was stuck in the house.

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Yeah, yes, And my parents we were indoor kids, and

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my parents weren't like, oh, go play outside. No, Like

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I didn't go outside ever, so like if it was

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scary me, I wasn't gonna go outside. I was just

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like gonna go to my room that was right next

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to it.

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So I feel like I have more agency or more power, yes, and.

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That feels good. He also isn't stuck to the house.

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He's like, uh, in the neighborhood, like.

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The corner comes and goes.

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Yeah, And I only got confirmation of him thought. I mean,

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I think my only pick me like tendencies come in

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like the ways that I try to disprove that ghosts

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aren't real sometimes. But that's like my pick me tendencies

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that sometimes I'd be like.

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Are you sure?

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And I hate it, but I like do that to myself,

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and I had.

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Who got fighting yourself?

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You're like you see something from the side and you're like, oh,

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it must have been the hair or whatever, but like

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you just like dismiss it. And I kept doing that.

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And then so my husband was traveling for work and

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he would leave Sunday night and come back Thursday night

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and spend the weekend like Friday Saturday, and then leave Sunday.

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So I was home alone Sunday night, so fucking Thursday

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that was I was just sleeping alone. And so I

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would put I'm a very scared person. Surprisingly, I don't

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think people know that. Like I am too, like I'm

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scared of shit, like I'm like it's dark. I put

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a stadium all around the house like when I'm home alone,

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like it is every corner is lit. So when he

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wasn't home, I would put the alarm out away. The

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dogs would be in the bedroom with being I would

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close the door. We don't do that one more together.

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It's always at stay because the dog came roam and

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the doors are open. But I had put it away

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and I was with the dogs, and I would get

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really high to go to sleep, because like you know,

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marijuana helps you go to sleep.

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Yeah.

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And I would also put like pots and pants on

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the handle of the doors, which is like my grandma's

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alarm system too. So I was like if the alarm

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doesn't trip it, the pop foul following will trip.

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It or whatever.

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But I was in my bed. I was really high

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and it was the middle of the night, and I

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just like got up and we had a dog, a boy.

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We had a boy dog and a girl dog. The

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girl dog's a pitbull. She's over here sleeping, but the

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boy's gone. But he was a like a lab boxer

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mix and he was like a ninety five pound big

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dog and he's really sweet. Anyways, I like woke up

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and Randy was sitting looking up and there was a

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man petting him, and he like, no, it was like glowing,

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like it was like the room was lit up. And

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he he didn't look like a person, Like he didn't

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look like he was of this dimension or this era.

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And I was just like and I just like laid back.

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I didn't see Yeah, and I covered my wages because

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I was like, if Brandy's not scared of him, he

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can't be a bad man.

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That's what I was telling myself. I do that. I

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sounded like he had like an indelic glow to him. Yeah.

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I was like, I don't feel scared, which is also

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a thing, Like I felt scared of the woman in

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my parents' house. I didn't feel scared of this man.

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And so I just like fell back asleep. Apparitions are

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really rare.

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I found out sick. They are like a number of

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people that see like a full blown apparition. Yeah, it's yeah,

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not a lot. Yeah. He had a hat on.

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He was white, and he looked like his clothes was flowy,

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like the undergarments of like back in the day.

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So he had like his.

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Flowy clothes and like his what it would be like

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the underwear, but they were like capris.

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Looking anyway, long pants.

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Yeah, And I mostly have felt him upstairs in our

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guest room, so this was the first time that I

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had to see them downstairs and it's our room. And

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I like told my partner about it when he got back,

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and he was like, ha ha ha ha. You know

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marijuana makes you to see things. I was like sure,

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I said, no one ever, but.

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I'm sorry, this isn't LSD.

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Yeah, right, And then I made friends with there was

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We had a neighbor across the street.

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She was witchy.

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She's like reiki and like like you know, crystals and whatever.

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So she's like, let's go to the crystal shop and

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pick out some crystals. See what our souls called to

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us or whatever. And I was like sure, let's go.

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I love with some WITCHI she.

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And I love like white. I'm down for each other.

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I don't know. I don't know a lot about like

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Mexican brouca yet, but I feel like it doesn't involve

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that many crystals. I sound like a white woman's like,

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this crystal is for your house to protect it. I'm like, yes,

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I'll take it, I'll give it to Yeah.

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Yeah, all my crystals are because I herd I met her,

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and I have a bunch of crystals. But we went

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to get him, and I'm the drave back. We're turning

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into like because we're on the dead end. As returning in,

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she was like, so have you met David? And I

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was like, what are you talking? What are you talking about? Yeah,

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because like I don't talk to anybody. The first their

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neighbor I've talked to and she tells me all the

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neighborhood gossips.

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So I'm like, I don't know anybody.

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And she's like, oh, the neighborhood ghost and I was

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like I think.

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I have.

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Yes, yeah, yeah, And I told her my story. She's like,

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I'm surprised that you didn't get a bad vibe because

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my kids cry a lot, and they don't like She's

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seen him with her daughter and the daughter was crying, and.

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So he doesn't like kids.

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So she's like, I don't think he likes kids because

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she's like, I don't get a bad vibe toward like

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me basically, but I get bad vibes toward my kids

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when he's around. So yeah, I was like, oh, so

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he hops to house the house here, He's just he's

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locked in the land. He's not locked in the houses. Cool, cool,

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cool cool cool.

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Yeah. Yeah. So honestly, if you were a ghost, that

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would be like the best scenario I think, where you

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can like go see different people instead of being stuck

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in like a room.

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Yeah, that sounds worse. Yeah, And I think they're attracted

455
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to energy, so I'm like, yeah, go to go to

456
00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:24.119
the negative vibes will keep it positive. Here, we're like

457
00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:33.039
we don't welcome around those kids, yeah right right, Yeah.

458
00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:35.519
And I think I accidentally kicked him out because I

459
00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:38.519
did a big Olympia, Like I was falling down the

460
00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:40.559
stairs a lot for a while, and so I was like,

461
00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:43.640
somebody put in Mardlaho and I just needed to do Olympia.

462
00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:46.400
And since I did Olympia. I haven't seen them, so.

463
00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:51.079
Oh yeah, okay, yeah he's been in the kids room shadows.

464
00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:59.559
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, but my go those are

465
00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:02.759
like my Maine two experiences that I've had.

466
00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:05.480
Man, Yeah, neither of us have ever seen anything. We

467
00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:07.559
have like a fake ghost story where I scared everyone

468
00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:11.000
because I was scared. Where we were, like at the

469
00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:15.039
at this true crime festival paranormal podcast festival. We were

470
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:17.079
with I don't know if you listened to Susto, but

471
00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:19.359
we were with Aiden from susta podcast, and then Lady

472
00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:22.279
who has an insane amount of podcasts, and we were

473
00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:24.559
eating pizza and then like the the door was already

474
00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:27.440
half open, and but I didn't see it that it

475
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:30.160
was already half open. And then a closet kicked on. Yeah,

476
00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:32.200
it was like a closet door. And then the door

477
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:35.519
like flew open because it was already open, and the

478
00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:38.319
AC turned on. But I just saw a door open,

479
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:41.720
and I know, I was like, did that door just open?

480
00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:44.160
You saw it? And then you just started screaming and

481
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:46.079
I didn't even get a chance to explain, like I

482
00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:48.839
think it was AC, yeah, and then you scared everyone

483
00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:50.799
by screaming. I started screaming, and then I climbed over

484
00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:52.920
Carmen on the table and then she was like, and

485
00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:55.119
you want to go go shunting, you dumb bitch.

486
00:25:56.359 --> 00:25:59.559
Yeah, I want to go go hunting, And like, I

487
00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:03.039
have cra certain things, So yeah, I get it. It's

488
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:06.119
fun to get scared. I think it's really fun. It

489
00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:08.519
is I the only one.

490
00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:10.839
I don't know. I mean, I think it is fun,

491
00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:13.559
but I think the moment I encountered like a real ghost,

492
00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:16.119
I will you're just a littlelyitch. Yeah, over and dying.

493
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:16.400
Yeah.

494
00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:19.759
Yeah, but we have we have to see should we

495
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:24.319
all go go hunting together? Have a oh my gosh.

496
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:26.400
Yeah, and we have to bring up pet though I

497
00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:30.680
think pets are really aware of what's happening. Carmen, let's

498
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:32.279
bring my low Mallow's already there.

499
00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:35.000
I honestly don't think he would be that aware. He

500
00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:37.359
doesn't even notice, like when we're when I'm walking him

501
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:40.839
and there's like cats or any other animal. He only

502
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:42.920
notices dogs that are smaller than him. I think it's

503
00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:47.880
an ego thing. Surprise. That's so sweet.

504
00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:52.680
Actually, I don't know why. Wait, but I've seen or

505
00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:55.119
like I have hotel stuff. Have you all like been

506
00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:57.559
at hotels that you felt were haunted, or like.

507
00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:01.799
Oh, I don't, I don't experience haunting, just that fake

508
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:05.440
uh door, it's not even something you shouldn't tell just

509
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:09.359
stop saying it. Yes, but I can't. But yeah, other

510
00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:12.759
than that, it's haunted. See, yeah I was haunted. Yes

511
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:20.039
you were you haunted? Using Okay, Yeah, but no, we don't.

512
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:23.119
We don't experience like anything. Like one of our house

513
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:26.000
is no, actually, almost every house I feel like they've

514
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.599
been haunted. Yeah, allegedly they've been haunted. And everyone has

515
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:33.839
ghost stories in these houses except that two of us. Wait, like,

516
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:36.039
I don't know. I don't know why.

517
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:39.640
I feel like I'm the least witchiest of my friends,

518
00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:42.240
Like I legit. I'm always jealous of the things they

519
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.920
see and the things they feel going into places, And

520
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:48.359
right now I feel really witchy though, because I do,

521
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:50.279
I'll feel like there's a spirits here.

522
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:54.319
No us nothing, which is crazy because our mom and

523
00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:57.519
our brother literally very witchy. They could have a show.

524
00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:06.759
They're like, they're yeah, they see everything, and us we're like, nope,

525
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:09.680
absolutely nothing like that. The house people are like, oh,

526
00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:13.160
we heard footsteps up in our brother's room. Was haunted

527
00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:16.000
and both of the houses we were at, Yeah, I

528
00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:18.000
think they only it has to be really bad, where

529
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:20.440
like you feel like a temperature drop in the room.

530
00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:22.759
But at that point, I feel like anybody would feel it.

531
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:25.079
If I'm feeling it, then the situation is not like

532
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.079
because yeah, we don't. We don't see or hear anything

533
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:31.680
like that. One house in Oakland, the first one we

534
00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:34.559
lived in, our brother couldn't sleep in his room. He

535
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:37.000
kept saying there was like something there in that room.

536
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:40.000
Everyone was like, it feels creepy in here. People would

537
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.480
hear footsteps. It did feel colder in that room. I

538
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:45.680
will say that I didn't actually feel that. Yeah, our

539
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.079
cousin has a story of being like feeling like a

540
00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:50.039
hand when she's shammering, but obviously like no one else

541
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:53.359
is in the shower and like scratches and we're like, wow,

542
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:56.680
I had no idea. And they talked about hearing like

543
00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:01.160
whispers that's right from coming from that room. M Yeah,

544
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:02.880
I'm so surprised.

545
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:06.640
I guess I wonder what happened, because like, sometimes it

546
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.640
just feels like intuition hauntings, Like right, when something just

547
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:14.400
feels weird, do you do you chalk it? To intuition

548
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:17.519
or are you just and are other people being like

549
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:20.559
this is a ghost? Like I wonder.

550
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:25.440
You know, I don't know. Am I intuitive? I don't think,

551
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:28.519
so I can say I don't. I don't think. Yeah,

552
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:31.160
how am How am I still alive? That's the question,

553
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:36.000
and that pertains to all aspects of live, including us. Yeah,

554
00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:38.240
we like to say we share one brain cell, and

555
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:40.680
so that brain cell doesn't say that's why it's so

556
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:41.640
close off to ghost?

557
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:47.200
What do you think makes you closed off to it?

558
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:51.279
I've always wondered it about me too, because like my

559
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:54.200
mom's witch here, I've got witchy friends, and I'm always like.

560
00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:57.839
Okay, have you heard it's like on the gift? Is

561
00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:00.200
that a thing that like your family says at all?

562
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:02.640
It doesn't feel like a gift at all.

563
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:04.519
But they're too Christians?

564
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:10.000
Yeah, maybe because they converted right, like they weren't always

565
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:14.799
maybe before when was it from Catholicism to Yes, the

566
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:18.880
usual Catholics are very witchy, very yeah, they are the

567
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.200
most Like I almost feel like we weren't even real

568
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.960
Catholics ever because we didn't seen it. But no, that

569
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:28.559
was like a thing like they would say, oh that

570
00:30:28.599 --> 00:30:30.960
person has like that person has a gift, and I

571
00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:32.759
feel like, well, we don't have the doon at all,

572
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:37.039
but we have like like someone was telling us that

573
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.599
we probably just like I don't want to see ghosts

574
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:43.240
at all, like just in like our own which is true,

575
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:46.359
which is true, and like we just closed ourselves off completely.

576
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:50.599
Like what's it called when you accidentally do something. There's

577
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:55.960
like a term for it. Subconsciously. Yeah, I got there.

578
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:01.079
Our one my brain cell was working, not yours, Carmen. Yeah,

579
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:03.680
like we just did that subconsciously, and that's why we

580
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:06.240
just like have never seen anything. But I could see

581
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:09.359
it from from seeing how scared our brother was from

582
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:13.359
everything he saw. I could see like subconsciously closing. That's

583
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:16.119
true because see, yeah, it was like screaming in the

584
00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:19.559
middle of the night, running into our parents room. He

585
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:21.839
couldn't even be like he's gonna be so well, he

586
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:23.480
doesn't talk to us, he's gonna be so mad as

587
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:25.960
wen't talking about him. But he doesn't matter, he doesn't

588
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:28.480
want anywhere. No, But he was like really haunted, just

589
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:31.240
like our mom had that like haunting around the same

590
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:33.960
age as when you say yeah, like yeah, well his

591
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.880
he was little, but and then our dad said he

592
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:40.839
he would see ghosts too, so it's just us too. Yeah,

593
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:44.039
but like a typical savv man, he's like I would

594
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:47.640
punch the ghosts and we're like whatever please.

595
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:54.160
But also like why does that tinkle my brain? Like

596
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:55.039
I've heard it before.

597
00:31:57.240 --> 00:31:59.200
He's like, yeah, that goes hard just to scare me.

598
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.440
But I was like no, and I went and we

599
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:04.640
were like. He's like I reached you the fan and

600
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:07.839
I was like, I'm dead.

601
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:12.559
Yeah, my dad saw ghost too. It was like normal

602
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:14.920
growing up. So I think I think it's weird that

603
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:19.519
I don't feel and see as much for sure, But yeah,

604
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.680
I grew up with that being like super common, super

605
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:26.119
talked about. It's almost weird to me. So my partner

606
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:32.200
is white, and I always like try to figure out

607
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.599
like is he just lying that he doesn't see anything?

608
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:35.559
And I'm always like.

609
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:39.119
Oh, is he like super logical too, like trying to

610
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:42.119
explain it away, because that's my husband is half white

611
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:44.359
and half Filipino, and so he just like channels the

612
00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:47.279
white side when it comes to ghosts because also very

613
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:50.640
start yes they are, yes, yes they are, and he's not,

614
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:54.400
and so he's like, uh, we'll explain something away and

615
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:56.559
and I'm like, I don't know about that.

616
00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:00.000
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah. He shuts it down

617
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.759
all the time, but one day he admitted he did

618
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:05.880
feel something. And I was like, he was in the bathroom.

619
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:08.400
His office is upstairs, and he was in the bathroom.

620
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:10.000
He sat something at the corner of his eye, and

621
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:11.160
I was like, so you saw.

622
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:11.799
The red.

623
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:19.319
Yeah yeah. He has since pretended it never happened, but

624
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:23.920
oh yeah, I remember, yeah there were yeah.

625
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:24.400
Yeah.

626
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:28.680
I also feel like images. I don't have to see it,

627
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:30.559
I just know what they look like.

628
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:33.559
Sometimes so interesting.

629
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:38.480
I was a flash, like yeah, like exactly, like a flash,

630
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:42.039
like I was in the hotel room. I just get

631
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:43.640
a lot. I end up in a lot of hotels,

632
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:46.839
and I have had two ghosts encounters in hotel rooms,

633
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:48.440
but recently.

634
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:49.279
Okay hotel.

635
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.680
It's a Marriott, one of the Marriotts, and because I

636
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:56.759
only stay a Marriott, and it was old though, but

637
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:59.079
they had like done upgrades, but you could tell it

638
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:02.279
was old. Anyways, I was like trying to fall asleep

639
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:06.000
by struggle with falling asleep when I'm traveling, and it

640
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:08.840
was all dark, and I just saw like a flash

641
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:13.039
of a man skinny naked standing at the foot of

642
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:17.760
the bed. He had like no hair here, but a

643
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:23.280
lot of bushy hair here, and like just standing there naked,

644
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:25.400
like flaccid and.

645
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:29.800
Looking at me. And I was like, another fool apple.

646
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:32.840
It wasn't visual.

647
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:34.920
Though it was. It was just a flash and I

648
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.039
saw it in my head and I turned on the

649
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:43.280
light and I was like the fuck, but like there's

650
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:45.960
nothing there, so I turned it off and I kept

651
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:47.880
trying to go to sleep. So I get that, Like

652
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:50.559
I get like these like weird, this is weird.

653
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:58.119
I don't like this. Wow, No, not us. There's just

654
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:00.920
like a ghost tours you can do in Portland. It's

655
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:05.320
under like a pizza place of the tunnels. Yeah, the tunnels.

656
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:07.159
I don't even remember the name of the pizza place,

657
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:11.119
but I mean if anyone googles like pizza place Hunted Portland,

658
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:12.920
it's going to be the only one, I think, yeah,

659
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.559
because it has those tunnels. And we did a tour

660
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:17.719
there with our mom and the whole time our mom

661
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:19.280
was like, no, I don't like it in this room,

662
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:21.960
and she felt like sick to her stomach, and then

663
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:26.159
she was like stop taking pictures, don't record me. We

664
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:28.199
could not record her. She did not allow us to

665
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.400
record her, and then in another room she was like,

666
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.920
it smells like fire here, and it didn't smell like fire,

667
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.000
but she smelled the fire. And then the person giving

668
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:38.679
the tour was like, oh, this is where the fire happened.

669
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:40.840
We after our mom said it, and I was like, oh,

670
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:43.159
she knows.

671
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:47.960
I don't remember that she knows. Do you ever wonder

672
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:50.639
if you could activate it or try to? You all

673
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:53.199
don't want to know.

674
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:56.599
Someone told us that they could teach us how to

675
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:58.480
open it, and I was like, no, thank you. She

676
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.039
did tell us that. Yeah, yeah, and she was like, yeah,

677
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:03.119
you guys can learn. It's like something anyone can learn.

678
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:06.960
And I was like not me, no, no.

679
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.440
No, what would you do with one of your kids?

680
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:11.760
Is like I saw a ghost. Let me tell you

681
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:17.760
what I have done. Yes, I gats slighted them. It

682
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.639
was not my youngest too, but my stepson. And again

683
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.239
my mom one day was like, yeah, there's a ghost,

684
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:26.599
little girl ghost in your room. And I was like, no,

685
00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:28.719
don't tell me. She said it was a little boy.

686
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:30.719
Oh I thought she said it was. It doesn't matter,

687
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:33.039
it was a little kid ghost. I thought she said girl.

688
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:34.519
She was like yeah, your house is tunted and I

689
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:36.679
was like, please don't tell me more like yeah, that

690
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:40.079
was me like covering my ears. But before she said

691
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:42.920
that though my steps and was like I heard a

692
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:44.480
little girl laugh in my room and I was like,

693
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:46.880
are you asleep? Were you dream He was like no,

694
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:48.320
I was awake and I was like, no, you were

695
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:50.960
probably dreaming. And then he was like no, I heard it,

696
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:53.239
and I was like, shut the fuck up. No, there's

697
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.519
no way. And then he was like was it a ghost?

698
00:36:56.519 --> 00:37:01.360
And I was like, uh no, ghosts aren't real, literally

699
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:04.000
the worst. And what maybe I should have like validated,

700
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:05.679
should be like you can just tell it to go away,

701
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:09.360
but no, I was scared. What's racing to throw up?

702
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:15.039
Was that before the podcast or after? It was? Before? Oh?

703
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.480
What did you do things differently? Now? No, I probably wouldn't,

704
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:21.199
like I would want to, but in the moment, you're like,

705
00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:23.599
in the moment I would, I would start praying and

706
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:25.480
then they'd be like you've never done this, What are

707
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:31.440
you doing? What are you doing? Who's gone? Yeah, I

708
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:31.920
didn't know.

709
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:34.639
I don't know what the play is in that, because

710
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.039
like I feel like you can fan the flames and

711
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:39.280
make them more scared and then you're going to face

712
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:41.599
the consequences of that. But then you also want to

713
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:45.280
like encourage I don't know, maybe.

714
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:50.039
They have I hope not. If they do, they need

715
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:51.320
to keep it to themselves.

716
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:56.079
Yeah, it's like the did you ever watch ghost Whisper.

717
00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:59.400
With I know? I it was randomly on in Spanish

718
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:02.320
sometimes like and I would watch the end of episode. Yeah,

719
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:04.360
but I never fully like watched the whole thing.

720
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:07.400
Oh yeah, I was obsessed with it. So the lore

721
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:10.360
behind it is that her mom always told her she

722
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:12.639
was crazy when she would tell her mom that she

723
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:15.519
would hear like ghosts telling her stuff. And then it

724
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:18.119
turns out in the show, when she's like much older

725
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:20.480
and they don't have a really good relationship the mom,

726
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.119
she discovers that the mom has the same gift. The

727
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:25.639
mom just like pretends it isn't happening because she's scared

728
00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:29.480
and like me, they had a huge rift and like

729
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:33.960
it wasn't a good relationship, but like, yeah, it was

730
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:36.400
like a thing that they had to repair or whatever.

731
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:42.719
I was like, oh, all right, okay, okay.

732
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:43.000
So you have a ghost whisper.

733
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.440
Potentially it was the one time and then it did

734
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:48.440
he didn't like say anything. But maybe it's because I

735
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:51.599
was like, no, yeah, probably knows, who knows if we

736
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.159
continue to see anything. And then after that, but I

737
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:57.000
think it's because I already knew the story. I felt

738
00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:00.280
so scared going into that room. Oh yeah. And then

739
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:02.480
when we switched him to the other room and put

740
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:05.079
the youngest in there, it was fine. So then I

741
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:09.719
was like, I don't know if not alone, Yeah, I don't,

742
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:12.719
I don't know, it was. It was strange. And then

743
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:16.480
one time when I was and again I was trying

744
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:18.320
to explain it away to myself because I don't I

745
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:21.599
don't want it to be real, but I was I

746
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:23.960
don't remember if it was when my oldest was like

747
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:26.880
a tiny newborn, I think it was him, not yeah,

748
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:29.719
it was him, so it was him, yeah, And you know,

749
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:32.519
I'm like half asleep. I don't even remember those like time,

750
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:34.639
like that time period until he was like three, I

751
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.280
basically like, I don't know what was happening. Yeah, he

752
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:43.039
regained your memory, Yes, I regained life really yeah, But

753
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.119
but those first like three months were just in I

754
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:48.000
don't even know how it was functioning. And so I

755
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:49.960
was like half a sleep walking from the living room

756
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:53.480
to my room in the middle of the night, like

757
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.000
it must have been honestly, like two three am, and

758
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:59.960
I heard like a very faint mama and I hate

759
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.440
didn't talk yet. No, first, he didn't talk. He's like

760
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:05.880
literally a month old at most, my stepson. He's not

761
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.119
gonna call me mama. I gotta be weird. So it

762
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:10.519
wasn't him. Also, it was like like a fine little

763
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:15.079
voice and nobody like sounds like that, and so I

764
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.840
was like nope, and I just went and I fell asleep,

765
00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:19.920
and then I was like, yeah, no, that didn't happen.

766
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:24.480
That's basically how I lived. I don't know what that was,

767
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:27.760
except I was hallucinating because I was like so sleep deprived.

768
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.760
So that's how I explained it away to myself. But

769
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:33.920
then later, like a year or two after that, is

770
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.599
when my mom said like, oh, your house is haunted,

771
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:40.239
like there's like a little girl in that room. And

772
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:41.880
then I was like, oh my god, a little girl

773
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:44.480
that sounds like that would have been like the mama

774
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:45.079
that I heard.

775
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:55.159
But then I was like, no, no, so you totally

776
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:56.559
have haunting stories.

777
00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:59.719
You just you do have a lot. Yeah, I don't know,

778
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:04.519
because I didn't I've never heard or seen anything like that. Yeah,

779
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:07.039
you know what, maybe I do. Okay, let me run

780
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:13.559
this story by you. Then the store, No, not the

781
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:17.320
store Tommy was with with us. That could have been her. Yeah,

782
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:19.360
that could have been I don't know, but no, this

783
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:23.400
is a separate one. So I was again asleep, and

784
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:27.000
then who were we? Oh we had been researching something

785
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:31.400
for all that remember what Oh the shape shifting like

786
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:36.280
thing from the name of the White Chio. That's what

787
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:39.159
we were researching. And I had finished, like everything, we

788
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:42.119
had finished recording, and that night I was asleep and

789
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:46.719
I heard like in my dream this like raspy man

790
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:50.239
voice say something like oh you want but in Spanish

791
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:54.000
like oh no sky so weed ha ha ha. And

792
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:58.039
I was like, like, I joke up. I was so

793
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:01.199
cold and sweaty my heart was seen. And then I

794
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:04.199
was like no, no, I don't want to hear you,

795
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:08.679
and like nobody everyone else was like sound asleep, like

796
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:11.239
my husband. My husband snort so loud, so he probably

797
00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:13.480
didn't hear me, like just like screaming like no, I

798
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:15.800
don't want to hear you. Get out of here. And

799
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:18.519
then after that that was like literally the last time

800
00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:20.679
I ever heard anything. But you know what, Oh my god,

801
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:25.760
now I'm rambling the mama, like hearing the mama. And

802
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:29.119
this was not that far apart. It was like maybe months.

803
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:32.239
So I'm a big So this is this is my

804
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:38.159
explained stuff. Right. There's this academic who I use as

805
00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:40.480
a source in my in my book, but she talks

806
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:47.360
gets about like uh so she's she studies ghosts, encounters,

807
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:52.719
and hauntings and what she like her thesis is that

808
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:57.679
oppression when you don't have a name for it, when

809
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:00.320
like she's just going wrong all the time because you're

810
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:03.639
like a woman of color who's an immigrant who you

811
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:06.079
know what I mean. So stuff's just always going wrong.

812
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:10.320
And we don't have a name for it. They feel like.

813
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:15.960
They feel like a haunting, they feel like something like

814
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:19.400
you start getting paranoid because you're like, is someone following me?

815
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:22.719
Is someone watching me? Did someone put this on me?

816
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:26.920
So anyways, that's one of her theories. And I will

817
00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:31.039
say the most activity I've had with David was at

818
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:34.199
the beginning of my relationship, and this is my second marriage.

819
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:36.960
I had moved here after we were like dating for

820
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.960
like five months. I moved from Miami back to Nashville,

821
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:45.639
and moved into his house. So like I was like,

822
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:51.440
my soul is not okay, Like, am I safe? Is

823
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:55.119
this a safe situation? Like if anything happens, what's gonna

824
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:57.119
happen to me? Am I gonna be homeless? So I

825
00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:58.840
have to move back to Miami? Like there was just

826
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:01.400
like a lot of uns certainty. And I think that

827
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:04.599
that makes us maybe open to more stuff than we

828
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:06.000
would normally be or something.

829
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:09.320
I've always heard that. Yeah, like during stressful times.

830
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:12.360
Yeah, yeah, there's just turmoil and sometimes it feels like

831
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:16.039
hauntings and it can manifest and self as huntings. I

832
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:18.639
don't know, or it's just straight up you're just more open.

833
00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:22.320
And so goes to like nope, I'm going to wait there,

834
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:26.239
not that one because.

835
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:30.480
You're like fresh from like yeah that was you having

836
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:33.159
a little baby stressful imagine?

837
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:36.280
Yeah, yes, you know what. That makes a lot of sense.

838
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:39.559
That's another reason people say kids are more like, uh,

839
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:44.079
susceptible to huntings or like whenever they say, oh, this

840
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:47.280
is a poultry geist, like that's like why so many

841
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:51.360
of it is Like teens especially like that period where

842
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:54.840
you go from like kid to teen is like so

843
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:57.360
and that's like that's the most turmoil. That's like the

844
00:44:57.400 --> 00:44:58.000
worst guy.

845
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:00.199
You feel like you're on your attack by your own

846
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:03.320
body and hormones and you're just like I cried, like

847
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:05.039
I think for seven years straight.

848
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:07.880
It was awful. I also blocked that time period. I

849
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:08.800
don't remember anything.

850
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:11.639
Oh yeah, I have huge chunks gone. We try to

851
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:18.079
like be dr and my body's just like no, yeah, yeah.

852
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:20.920
There's yeah, there's there's so much I don't remember. So

853
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:24.239
that would yeah, that would explain. Oh my god, that

854
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:27.159
would expend so much. I'm mind blown right now.

855
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:31.280
Our ghosts or ghosts always our ghosts I because I

856
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:33.760
want to be I want to see ghosts. I want

857
00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:34.960
to believe that they're out there.

858
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:36.280
Hear her, hear her?

859
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:38.119
Are you.

860
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:42.199
Like when my mom was hung as her story and

861
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.519
she's all like, because I'm talking about this, sounds like no,

862
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:48.440
you're not welcome here. No, And then she was like

863
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:51.840
that doesn't work and we were like, ma, it must

864
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:52.480
have worked for me.

865
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:57.760
Don't say that. Yeah, it just sounds so cool. But

866
00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:02.760
people have so many stories. I I'm always like, oh, yeah,

867
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:07.719
this one guy I saw petting my dog like you know.

868
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:14.079
And meanwhile people are like, my friend found out her

869
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:21.159
family history, like her grandfather was murdered and in front

870
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:23.960
of the grandmother he died on her lap, like he

871
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:27.360
was shot in the head, and so they never met him,

872
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:32.840
the grandkids. But she like went to Guatemala again and

873
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:35.760
like felt super connected to him spiritually, came back, made

874
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:39.400
an altar for him. Apparently he liked whiskey, so she

875
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:42.079
would like set a couple of whiskey and it would

876
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:44.639
it would be empty every morning, and I was just like,

877
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:45.480
I want.

878
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:50.559
That shiite cone. That what I would welcome. Like I

879
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.360
feel like everybody but me has had like a story,

880
00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:57.039
even a tiny one with after our grandfather passed away

881
00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:00.199
where they're like, oh, I smelled his perfume and I'm like, oh,

882
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:01.519
I saw him in my dream and I'm like, I

883
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:05.840
haven't seen anything. Oh yeah, I've dreamt him a few times.

884
00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:09.760
And they say, yeah, that's literally them visiting you. That's

885
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:12.800
how they can visit you in their dreams, uh, and

886
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:13.679
not me.

887
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:17.320
So that's up, Like I would love that stuff. That

888
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:19.840
is like I want to be that connected like this

889
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:29.119
random white guy David. But if my grandma came and

890
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:31.960
talked to me because I'm so open, that that would

891
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:32.440
be legit.

892
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:36.840
I'd be like, all right, yeah, this kid welcome. Yeah. Yeah.

893
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:41.360
Her mom had that experience with her grandpa where he

894
00:47:41.400 --> 00:47:43.440
would kind of come. It seemed like he would come

895
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:46.280
and warn her whenever something bad was going to happen,

896
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:51.159
and she would dream him like either crying or something

897
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:53.400
like like different things like that. She would he would

898
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.960
be sitting or like facing away from her, walking away

899
00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:59.000
from her, trying to catch up, and if she couldn't

900
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:02.679
catch up to him, uh, something like bad would happen.

901
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:06.000
And that's literally every time she had that dream, or

902
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:07.800
she'd be like I saw him and I sat in

903
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:09.639
a bench and he didn't like say word to me.

904
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:11.320
He kept turning away from me, and I just have

905
00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:13.119
a feeling something bad is going to happen because of

906
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:16.119
that dream. And then someone would die yeah yeah. Or

907
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:17.960
one time it was a woman got to a car accident.

908
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.320
Yeah yeah, I would want like that.

909
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:25.880
My mom has like something bad's gonna happen stuff or

910
00:48:26.440 --> 00:48:29.840
something is going to happen, and always something happens when

911
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:31.639
she says it, and it's happened like five times my

912
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:34.159
whole life that she'll say it, and I don't get

913
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:37.440
any feeling like I would love a little warning about anything.

914
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:40.039
I would like that to be a little intuitive and

915
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:42.400
like a little bit like future telling me.

916
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:46.800
Yeah, give me a heads up, like my anxiety would

917
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:47.800
really love it?

918
00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:49.559
Right? Or would it be worse?

919
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:53.159
Maybe I don't do terror for that reason.

920
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:59.559
I'm like, what do you mean? I would never remember

921
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:01.920
what each card man, and I would like literally say

922
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:04.920
the wrong thing. That's why I can't be trusted. But yeah,

923
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:08.400
I don't know if people remember these things. Practice that

924
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:13.800
means death, then it doesn't. Yeah you're gonna die.

925
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:19.119
Wow. That was me when I first was dealt the

926
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:21.760
death card. I was like, I'm dying, got it?

927
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:24.400
Thanks? No, And it was great.

928
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:27.199
That was great rebirth or something.

929
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:29.480
I was like, okay, like a phoenix.

930
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:33.039
Yeah, first and last time though doing taro. I don't

931
00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:35.400
do well with knowing, so maybe.

932
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:38.199
I've never done that or gone to like what are

933
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:41.239
those other ones that tell the future like pyecakes or yeah,

934
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:44.559
I couldn't like a watch and teller. No that's psychic.

935
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:48.920
Oh okay, just already said it. I don't just add anything.

936
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:53.000
You're right, I want to do one, but there's so

937
00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:57.119
many hacks. Yeah, right, but there are good ones. I

938
00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:00.840
have a friend who's who's gatekeeping. Hers only pissed about it.

939
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:06.159
I'm like, what's the link not gate keep everything?

940
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:09.599
Yeah yeah, and like she told me, Oh my gosh,

941
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:11.800
she's so accurate, and I'm like I've literally been like,

942
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:15.599
what's fair? Email, nothing, nothing leads you on rid.

943
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:18.400
Yeah, she doesn't see it.

944
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:21.199
Yeah, yeah, because there are there's so many hags like

945
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:23.559
I'm not gonna just walk somewhere. I need word of mouth,

946
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:26.360
I need verification, you.

947
00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:30.119
Need the details, you need that contact right there. Yeah.

948
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:33.280
Now our mom actually it's such like I don't know

949
00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:35.760
what is it with our mom? But she was in Mexico.

950
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:39.320
It said, you're right, it's the gift. She went to

951
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:43.519
someone in like a psychic in Mexico. I thought it

952
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:45.960
was her aunt. Was it her aunt? I think? So

953
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:48.880
that's worse to me. I don't know why, which ant

954
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:51.679
or which he ant? Okay, so that's who told her,

955
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:56.239
like literally everything that was going to happen to like

956
00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:00.639
the last like I don't know what to thinking almost

957
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:03.840
like to something I don't know when though to that

958
00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:05.840
to a tea, like she's like, you're going to have

959
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:07.639
three kids, two of them are going to go to

960
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:13.039
the military, you're the person who you're the father of

961
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:15.719
your children. That's not the love of your life. Like

962
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:19.679
and my mom's like, what, oh, your your future is

963
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.679
not in Mexico, Like it's miles and miles away. And

964
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:25.280
she's like before she had any thought about leaving. Yeah, yeah,

965
00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:27.679
and all of that, that's true.

966
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:36.199
We need the contact, we need, we need to know.

967
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:42.000
I think so if I'm remembering right, I remember see

968
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:44.199
the whole time. Though I thought it was a random

969
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:46.400
I mean I could it could be that her aunt

970
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:50.000
took her to her friend who was the psychic. God

971
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:52.440
might have been it. Yeah, she might not be alive.

972
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:55.239
We don't know. I was even too scared to know.

973
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:55.519
Though.

974
00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:58.440
Christians, I don't know if it's in the Catholic Church,

975
00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:01.960
but we have prophets who are like Christian psychics. Do

976
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:04.800
you all have that? Because they're in the Bible.

977
00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:07.840
They're just I never heard of, y.

978
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:10.440
Yeah, they're like in the Bible there's prophets would be

979
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:13.639
like you're you're gonna die if you don't do that,

980
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:15.960
if you don't do what God says or whatever. But

981
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:19.639
like they make predictions like that. They they're like modern ones.

982
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:22.719
And so I've interacted with them, and the way that

983
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:25.880
it works is like instead of a sermon, they'll just

984
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:28.679
be a prophet and he'll he'll say people's names out loud,

985
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:32.239
and then the people will get up because they've been summoned,

986
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:37.000
I'll and he'll tell them their future. Yeah. It was

987
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:39.039
very but also you kind of want to be picked,

988
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:41.480
Like it's kind of like exciting because it's like the

989
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:44.760
prophet got a message from God about you.

990
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:47.639
Let's go, what is it? My God? I'd be like,

991
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:49.119
that's too personal. You don't have to tell me.

992
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:52.920
You don't have to tell the whole congregation because say in.

993
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:59.840
Front of everyone, oh yeah, oh God, imagine you're gonna die. Yeah.

994
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:03.400
But it was like really intense stuff that you were like,

995
00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:05.239
it was like a public reading.

996
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:11.199
Wow. And was this prophet correct?

997
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:19.400
I don't know because I don't remember them because I

998
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:20.719
just remember being like I.

999
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:21.480
Didn't walk out.

1000
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:25.559
I was just waiting the whole time, like was he

1001
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:26.440
gonna say about me?

1002
00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:29.920
Nothing? Nothing? He said nothing?

1003
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:34.119
He said something, my brother, But I don't remember that either.

1004
00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:39.480
I have to ask him. Would I was so self centered.

1005
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:42.800
I was like, it wasn't about me, because that would

1006
00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:45.039
be us too. I would do the same. You know

1007
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:47.519
what I would remember if it was something about you, Christina,

1008
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:51.800
but not a brother. Yeah, okay, yeah, it's like if

1009
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:54.719
it's me, it's like you. Yeah, that's why I would remember,

1010
00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:56.760
because it's still like related to me, you know.

1011
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:00.519
Yeah, yeah, I get it.

1012
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:04.159
Wait wait wait are you? Are you a Leo Tour? Yes?

1013
00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:17.079
I love it. Yeah. Our birthday is likend Friday. It's Friday,

1014
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:19.760
the first time in a few years that's been on

1015
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:20.239
a Friday.

1016
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:22.880
Yeah, y'all have had the whole week up until now.

1017
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:29.239
Happy early birthday.

1018
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:29.199
Related birthday too. It was it was.

1019
00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:32.400
Boring, my my first boring one though. I used to

1020
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:34.480
be like, my whole personality was my birthday.

1021
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:38.840
But that's me. Yeah, I haven't ever since probably I

1022
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:41.880
had the children, because then, like you know, child Karen,

1023
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:43.840
all that leame things I can't do.

1024
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:50.159
So I still like, yeah, I'm still like sort of

1025
00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:52.719
like a dictator on my birthday. But it's like a

1026
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:55.400
huge improvement from what I used to be, for sure.

1027
00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:58.440
I actually I used to be a lot worse too.

1028
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:00.000
I don't remember one time she was I don't know

1029
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:02.320
when I told my friends and I was like, something

1030
00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:04.280
about my birthday. I don't know what. And they were

1031
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:09.000
like and I was like what, Like, I don't remember

1032
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:12.840
whatever it was. I was being mean to them and

1033
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:14.840
they were like, you can't act like that just because

1034
00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:16.639
it's your birthday, and I was like, actually I can't.

1035
00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:22.320
It's one day. And I used to like cry every

1036
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:24.320
birthday because I was so disappointed.

1037
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:25.599
I was like, yeah, I.

1038
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:26.440
Could have done better.

1039
00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:30.000
Yeah. Yeah. One time it was like I went to

1040
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:32.159
work so early, the earliest that I have everyone, and

1041
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:34.239
everyone was still asleep and I'm like I shouldn't have

1042
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:36.840
expected anything because it was so early, but because there's

1043
00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:39.760
no logic here, I was like on your birthday, and

1044
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:42.159
I was like, nobody said happy birthday to me when

1045
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:44.920
I woke up, even the necessarily everyone was asleep. Everyone

1046
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:47.400
was asleep, like my husband was asleep. It was my

1047
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:49.519
step cent at the time, not the two youngest. But

1048
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:52.079
I'm like, you guys better have like a pinata for

1049
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:53.599
me when I get home from work, and I was

1050
00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:55.320
like a too hour shift. I'm like, have a piata,

1051
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:58.000
I have a cake, and they did, but I was

1052
00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:01.039
I was upset the whole day because you guys didn't

1053
00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:05.039
tell me happy birthday on them, like nobody played to

1054
00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:05.760
wake me up.

1055
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:09.559
Yeah, I'm no contact with my parents and I'm still

1056
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:14.159
upset they didn't call me this year. I told like

1057
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:16.599
everyone like me, I'm like, and they didn't call me,

1058
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:19.519
and they'll be like, did were you expecting?

1059
00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:20.440
No?

1060
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:23.719
But I was gonna ignore it. But they could have

1061
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:24.639
caught damn.

1062
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:26.880
You know, it's the thought that counts, and the thought

1063
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:31.119
was not there exactly the first timmer Mom because she

1064
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:32.960
she used to call us once we all moved out.

1065
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:34.920
She used to call us and play least Mayanitas, like

1066
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:37.000
holding her phone on the speaker. The first time, we

1067
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:39.360
just sent a YouTube link instead of doing that. I

1068
00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:43.320
was like, nah, oh yeah, what happened. Like She's like,

1069
00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:44.119
I don't have time today.

1070
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:51.320
I'm like, no, right right, No? I feel that heavy no,

1071
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:54.639
but like I feel it in my soul. When my

1072
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:56.920
grandma used to do that when she died. I was like,

1073
00:56:57.159 --> 00:57:00.480
I expect you to do that now, Mom, I don't.

1074
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:01.280
One has to do it.

1075
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:04.599
I made it clear about my expectations.

1076
00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:13.199
Yeah, I hear that. I love Leo's listen. We're the best,

1077
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:17.320
like the best to each other and the worst maybe

1078
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:19.960
to other people. I don't know. I don't know, and

1079
00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:21.559
it doesn't matter exactly.

1080
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:25.679
I think that's probably and that's fake news. I feel

1081
00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:29.039
like we're great with people we love, yes, and isn't

1082
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:30.280
that's the whole.

1083
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:34.480
Point, right. Yeah. My supervisor sent me a TikTok and

1084
00:57:34.519 --> 00:57:37.239
I was like, you're the nicest mean person I know,

1085
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:42.920
and I was like, yeah, yeah, I don't. When I

1086
00:57:42.960 --> 00:57:44.920
do care about you, it's you could see it. But

1087
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:49.079
when I don't, Yeah, that sometimes I forget though, also

1088
00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:51.920
to like care people I love too.

1089
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:56.960
But yeah, it's hot. It's hard because I really think

1090
00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:02.559
I'm like, I'm not being actively mean, so I'm being great.

1091
00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:07.360
Yeah. Yeah, sometimes I'm like, am I am I selfish?

1092
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:13.280
And I'm like, no, that's my biggest struggle.

1093
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:17.440
They're gonna like clip this whole thing like Leos.

1094
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:21.039
We like, actually, I want to clip it myself.

1095
00:58:26.280 --> 00:58:28.920
Oh and my sister is a LEO too, So I

1096
00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:29.800
got to love that.

1097
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:30.719
I love you.

1098
00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:34.239
It's the best. It's the worst and the best because

1099
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:36.320
because we're masters.

1100
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:38.000
Yeah.

1101
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:42.840
Sometimes yeah, sometimes my partner will be like why are

1102
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:47.639
you all arguing? And we're like we're just talking, Like, yeah,

1103
00:58:48.159 --> 00:58:51.679
nobody understands how harsh we can be except each other.

1104
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:54.519
Yeah. The worst is when like the three of us,

1105
00:58:54.599 --> 00:58:56.719
like when our brother does talk to us, and the

1106
00:58:56.760 --> 00:58:58.000
three of us are in the same place and we're

1107
00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:00.360
just having a conversation, and then our mom will be like,

1108
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:01.960
stop fighting, and we're like.

1109
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:07.480
Oh, yeah, we're just talking. Yeah, my whole childhood was

1110
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:08.159
stop fighting.

1111
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:12.159
I was like what. Yeah.

1112
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:14.519
I hung out with my sister in law who's a

1113
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:18.960
pisces and my actual sister, and she kept being like,

1114
00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:22.039
be nice to each other, and me and her were

1115
00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:25.039
so confused, my sister and her like my sister and yeah,

1116
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:35.840
like don't project that's your ship. Yeah you don't understand. Yeah, yeah,

1117
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:37.639
what are you all going to do for your birthdays?

1118
00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:43.000
What's the plan? I'm going to Hawaiian and I went

1119
00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:46.519
on a reading retreat earlier with my other LEO friend

1120
00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:48.719
and my other friend. I don't even know what my

1121
00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:55.199
other friend is. Actually, it doesn't matter. This is yeah.

1122
00:59:55.800 --> 00:59:59.760
Yeah, that's amazing, that's exciting. Is it your first time?

1123
00:59:59.800 --> 01:00:03.400
And Hawaii that's gonna be really fun. I heard them

1124
01:00:03.519 --> 01:00:04.760
don't bring back rocks?

1125
01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:07.320
Oh yeah no, and I will put my butt on

1126
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:12.360
any rock either. Laurenston Yeah yeah, yeah she did that.

1127
01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:15.519
Yeah mm hmmmm, I'll make sure not to do that.

1128
01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:21.079
Believe everything as it is, be respectful. Yes, yes, yeah,

1129
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:24.840
that's gonna be so fun. What are you doing? Oh,

1130
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:28.679
she's not doing anything. Nothing. I bought the Possession of

1131
01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:32.719
Albadas for myself. That's my birthday present. And then I'm

1132
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:35.000
hoping to well, yeah, it doesn't start till seven, so

1133
01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:38.360
I'm hoping to go see her at the Central Library

1134
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:41.280
because they're doing a talk and a book signing. So

1135
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:45.079
I feel like that's my gift to myself. Yeah. Yeah,

1136
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:45.920
I'm not doing anything.

1137
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:49.159
Is it like that? Because I said I'm not doing anything,

1138
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:51.920
but I was at the pool every day and.

1139
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:57.599
Like, oh indulging. Yeah, well yeah, because I normally try

1140
01:00:57.639 --> 01:01:00.480
not to eat, like I don't believe like you know,

1141
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:03.480
diet culture, but I do most of the time do

1142
01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:06.800
keto because I feel better personally when I don't eat

1143
01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:09.360
a bunch of carbs. I don't feel bloated right, and

1144
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:11.239
I don't I don't want to feel glittered and tired

1145
01:01:11.239 --> 01:01:13.440
all the time. So most of the time I am

1146
01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:15.679
doing keto. But this whole like week and a half

1147
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:17.480
or probably since we moved, I'm like I've been trying

1148
01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:20.599
new food places. So I feel like I have been

1149
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:24.119
indulging a little bit. Also, like every literally every weekend

1150
01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:26.000
that we could, I was out in like the water

1151
01:01:26.079 --> 01:01:28.840
with the children. So those are like little things. But yeah,

1152
01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:31.280
I'm not like doing anything huge because like again, we

1153
01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:35.199
just moved and money. Who has that? Yeah, it's a

1154
01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:39.440
part she's rich. I feel that heavy.

1155
01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:41.960
I feel our dog was sick and it was like

1156
01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:45.280
seven thousand dollars to keep her alive, so much.

1157
01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:47.639
Just went through that with my low. Well it wasn't

1158
01:01:47.639 --> 01:01:49.519
that much though, no, no, but it was a lot.

1159
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:53.559
Yeah, it's too much. Like I was like, I get it,

1160
01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:58.639
Like how do people own that? Like this is expensive?

1161
01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:00.800
I'm going to sound like the so I told my

1162
01:02:01.679 --> 01:02:03.119
I told my husband. I was like, okay, what is

1163
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:03.639
our limit?

1164
01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:06.119
Like, oh I did too, I didn't.

1165
01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:10.800
You like there's a limit? Yeah? Same, yeah, And I

1166
01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:12.599
was like, what do you have to draw the line somewhere?

1167
01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:14.719
Like what do they tell us that's ten thousand? He's like,

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I'll spend ten thousand and I'm like.

1169
01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:22.280
No, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was exactly the same conversation

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we had because like we keep our finances separate too,

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01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:35.039
and I was like, who's because then if I'm paying,

1172
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I need to know. I need to say my limit.

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And he was like, no, there is no limit. I

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01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:45.079
was like, okay, you got it, great, great, Yeah, yeah

1175
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:45.920
it's too much.

1176
01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:50.039
No, it's expensive though, especially when like random stuff like yeah,

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pomps up, Yeah yeah.

1178
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:56.159
Yeah, she was in the er for three days. Every

1179
01:02:56.239 --> 01:02:58.239
day was like three thousand dollars.

1180
01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:04.440
Damn. I would have called it. Yeah, it either would

1181
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:06.760
have been my limit or my what is that show?

1182
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:09.280
Like my tenth reason or my final reason? Oh thirteen

1183
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:11.920
three thirteen three the wrong number.

1184
01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:17.960
So the thirteen is ominous, but yeah.

1185
01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:21.679
That would have been yeah, tenth reason.

1186
01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:27.159
I mean I couldn't afforded, so yeah, no no yeah

1187
01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:29.960
in this economy, no, no, who.

1188
01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:33.840
Can Yeah no in what twenty twenty five? No, no,

1189
01:03:33.960 --> 01:03:37.719
no no. I do feel like we should rerap this

1190
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:39.639
up because again I've been checking a bunch of water and.

1191
01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:43.639
I have to be go, thank you for having me.

1192
01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:47.119
This is so un thank you so much. This is

1193
01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:49.400
like a dream come true. It was a dream come true.

1194
01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:51.639
Like I literally said it before we were recording that

1195
01:03:51.719 --> 01:03:52.920
I could die, like right now.

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01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:57.159
If y'all are ever in Nashville, you should hit me up,

1197
01:03:57.360 --> 01:03:58.559
I live here.

1198
01:03:58.760 --> 01:03:59.519
Should we just go?

1199
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:03.400
Yes, you can see in David's room.

1200
01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:08.280
Yeah, let's do it. Maybe we'll see our first ghost.

1201
01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:10.000
I'm not conwood.

1202
01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:21.079
We can summon himans together. Yeah.

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01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:23.199
No, this was Yeah, this was so much fun. I'm

1204
01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:24.840
so glad that you didn't cancel on us.

1205
01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:27.239
I thought about it.

1206
01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:31.639
She said, I saw her stories and she was like,

1207
01:04:31.639 --> 01:04:33.800
I'm so nervous, and I was like, I didn't see it.

1208
01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:35.960
And then she was like, I almost canceled on you guys,

1209
01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:36.400
and I was like.

1210
01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:40.880
I did, and I was like, no, that would be terrible.

1211
01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:43.599
I would not leave you alone until you agreed to

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01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:44.199
talk to us.

1213
01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:47.440
But it is. I'm glad I did it. But it's

1214
01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:49.519
one of those things where it's like the anxieties up

1215
01:04:49.559 --> 01:04:50.880
here until it's over.

1216
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:55.480
Yeah. Who hasn't been there? Yeah yeah some of us. Yeah,

1217
01:04:55.719 --> 01:04:58.760
it's crazy. Yeah, but yeah, this was so fun. Again.

1218
01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:02.480
I have to peace, so thank you so much, thank you.

1219
01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:05.679
But yeah, everyone else, I don't know. I say spooky

1220
01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:11.559
and watch out for David. Bye bye. As Book Tells

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01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:14.960
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01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:18.159
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Shout out Don. If you aren't joining the podcast considerably

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can or don't want to join the patreon, that's fine too.

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You can also get some merch. You can find sure

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s Essay, spooky and old English letters. There's a beanie.

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I love the beanie. There's also a hat. There's a

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lot of options, crap tops, sweaters, it's almost swetter weather.

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We're nearing a spookie season, so yeah, get your hoodies.

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You're gonna need them. If you don't want to do

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