Feb. 14, 2025

Creepy Primer Impacto Stories and the Scamming Case of Bob Menendez

Creepy Primer Impacto Stories and the Scamming Case of Bob Menendez

Bob Menendez was a trailblazing hard working Latino. He set records in his political career, until things took a turn for him and he found himself facing bribery charges. But he didn't stop there. 

In today's episode, Cristina tells Carmen about...

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Bob Menendez was a trailblazing hard working Latino. He set records in his political career, until things took a turn for him and he found himself facing bribery charges. But he didn't stop there.

In today's episode, Cristina tells Carmen about former senator Bob Menendez' fall from grace and into prison and Carmen talks about three stories reported by Primer Impacto. First, they read a listener story and end with spooky recommendations.

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Hi, this is Christina and a Carmen and this is

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another episode of Spooky Tells, the podcast for all things

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as spooky true crime related to Latin America. And today

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we have some spooky stories straight from pre met IMPACTO.

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I'm gonna put new sounds in her and a Cuban

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crime regarding the menandees, but not those ones a different

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pair of menanez. Yes, we'll get into it. Okay, okay, menan.

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This is that I didn't know existed, but like maybe

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we all should have honestly interesting anyway. Before all that,

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we do have a listener story. And if you want

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to send us your stories, you can email as pookitos

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a gmail dot com. You can dm us on any socials.

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You can call it a Spooky hotline. You can submit

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it on Discord. There's so many ways to get us

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your stories. We love receiving them. All right, all right,

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This listener's story is from Aliyah. Hi. I really love

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your videos and I hope you have time to read

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my story and share it on your page. This happened

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back in January twenty twelve. My sister was about seven

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and I was five. My great grandmother passed away just

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a week ago. She was possessed by spirits whoa okay, yeah,

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and what not her being possessed at the time of

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her death. Yeah, that doesn't sound good. She was possessed

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by spirits fewer Muslim and few non Muslims too. Whenever

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she would get possessed, she would start speaking in different languages.

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She was an old Pashtuna woman who could only speak Pashto,

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but when possessed, she speak Arabic, Urdu, Farsi and English multilingual.

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And why was I going to say the same thing?

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Multilingual demon her spirit? I don't know his demon? Okay? Anyway,

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she was very little and tiny, but her soul got

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so powerful. Even if she was held by fore men,

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they wouldn't be able to hold her down. Strong independent

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women love to see it. So we had some relatives

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visiting us to give their condolencence and respect. They asked

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my grandmother to come with them to visit our cousins.

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They lived right next to us, almost five minutes away.

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Since my grandmother was old, they told her to sit

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in the car to make it easier for her, and

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me and my sister tagged along with her to accompany her.

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When we were coming back. In between our houses there

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was a gutter, and because of the water there, it

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had grown out trees and bushes so long they almost

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looked like a tiny forest. We would either run through

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that forest because it was quicker to get to our home,

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or we would have to walk the long way. I

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decided to run through it, or could reach our house

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before my sister. My sister kept calling me from behind

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and telling me to stop so we could go together.

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She was already halfway there, so she ran as fast

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as she could to reach our house. Just when she

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came out of the trees, she saw that I was

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standing behind her car, a short girl with a bob cut.

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She thought I was playing hide and seek with her,

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so she told me, it's not funny. I saw you

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come out. I didn't say anything and started running around

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the car, and she started chasing me. She ran a

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few laps around the car when all of a sudden, quote,

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I stopped. So, yeah, it's what we thought. Who is this?

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The fuck is this? My sister said that when I

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turned around, it was not my face but instead my

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dead great grandmother's old, wrinkly face, smiling at her creepily.

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Oh no, then, quote I started approaching my sister. So

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my sister got scared and wanted to run away, but

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felt like her legs wouldn't move so fast and as

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if they have a heavyweight on them, so she felt

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like she couldn't move. She did her best to get

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inside her house, and when she did, she saw me

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already in the house playing and then she fainted. Fuck,

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oh my god, and was sick for a few weeks.

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What was that? Oh my god, No, that is so scary.

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Who was she playing with? Was that bitch? What? What that? Oh?

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With the great grandmother's face? Oh my god, that's terrifying. No,

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that was scary. I would have passed out also, No wonder,

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no wonder she was sick for weeks. I would have

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killed myself. No, but that's seriously horrifye it truly is terrifying.

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I'm like, what the hell is that? What was it

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trying to accomplish? That's scary? I couldn't say. But wow,

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I can't, I can't. The story had it all, really

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it did? Huh. I started with the possessed great grandmother

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and ended with the possessed great grandmother, but so many

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things happened in between. Yeah. Wow, seriously creepy. Thanks so

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much for sending your story in. I don't know if

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I can recover from this. Yeah, that was scary, But

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why didn't you tell us less scary things from permitting PACTO?

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Because I don't think can get scarier than this. Yeah,

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why don't we get into something so unseerious I've been

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metting pacto? Yeah, does it get more and serious implement

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impact though? I don't think so. Okay, So I think

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we all know what premade IMPACTO is and have most

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likely already been traumatized by their stories at some point.

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But just in case, here is some background. The tabloid

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style news show first launched on Univision in nineteen eighty four.

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I thought it was a real news show for the

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longest time. I guess when I was younger, I did too.

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I didn't know it was like a tabloid style right, Yeah,

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like I didn't know it was a joke to not

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be taken seriously. To be fair, there was a nostrolger

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on the on the rolls, on the paperwork. I thought

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that was normal. I just I thought the news like credible. Yeah, okay,

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I was a kid again. True, Well, I'm not talking

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about like last year. I'm talking about like ten years ago.

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I was a baby. Okay, that's just shocking because you're

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still a baby, you're right, Yeah, I am just a

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thirty year old baby. Yeah, okay. So yeah. So since then,

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well known journalists like Mirka Dejanos, Maria sa Leste Araras,

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Fernando Decon anyway, and Buzo. That's why I remember the

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most have hosted it. I remember the first one, you said, Oh,

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I just remember. I think because her name, you know,

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has to read to it because of the alliteration. It's true.

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The first thame I said was Medkas Yes, okay, that's yeah,

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her and the one after I remember the most. And

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I thought they were like legit journalists. So that's another

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thing that I didn't my really believing this was a

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legit news station. Maybe some of them, I can be alone.

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I don't know. They were actual like journals. Oh that's

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what you're saying. So because they were like actual legitimate journalists,

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he thought IMPACTO was like legitimate legit journalism. I mean,

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they have a moment, right, it couldn't have all been unseerious, right,

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I just don't I don't know I don't.

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I don't.

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Did they Okay, well get it doesn't matter anyway, it

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doesn't matter. Premi Impacto also featured Walter Mercado, who we

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all miss in love r I P. He provided astrology

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halfway through the episodes for a long time and just

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hearing it it was so epic. He did it in

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such a soothing, beautiful voice, majestic voice. Yeah, yeah, we

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should play a clip here, Yes, I wanted. I didn't

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prepare one, but I'll find one. Okay. It was the

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thing he always said, I guess I'll be in the clip.

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Does matter? There is the thing he always says, Yeah,

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isn't it Should we just look at it like this

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with his hands right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, how did we

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forget that? Really? Literally what he said?

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Oh yeah, Libro is anmos.

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Another mass, another man of soul entrying Sahi Leo Meles.

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I thought, samanas your pieces, it's moment the soul, and

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I will expect to it to be there.

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He was like so dramatic with it, just like yeah

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the sun, and it was yeah, yeah beautiful. There will

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never be another like him. I don't think so. No,

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so premeding back, don't try to sell itself as a

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hard hitting news program meant to be taken seriously, but

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ever since day one, the show covered things like UFOs, Cryptotitans,

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ship like that, and uh yeah, not that serious. Even then,

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it did gain a reputation as a serious news program.

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Many who have watched it have fallen victim to their

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stories and took it too seriously, including me. Yeah, well, yeah,

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I did think that Chaka was Yeah. Also I did

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think that he was going to come out through the

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backyard and like come eat meat or something. And they

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were the ones that spread about like Harry Potter being

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demonic and shit like that, weren't they, I'm pretty sure. Yeah.

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By then I didn't believe it anymore. You were like,

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not my Harry Potter, Yeah, not my Pokemon because those

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Pokemon cards too, right right. It was everything that we liked.

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They ruined everything. Yeah, yeah, the song huh yeah. Okay, Anyway,

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a lot of people believe the shit they peddled, and

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they were scared, you could say. So here's some of

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some of the stories they shared on Brimanto the Chu

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first human victim. Okay, I believed it, every bit of it. Well,

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you might have been too young, but in nineteen ninety six.

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Oh yeah, no, I remember it. No, he shut up

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and teenninety six to show ran a segment about a

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man who was killed by chipacabras in the south of Guatemala.

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The reporter, Sessa Gaitan, told the story of manuel Le

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Keesu's Francisco terrifying death. Everyone was scared of him, but

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no one imagined when and where it would happen. But nevertheless,

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this man seems to have been the first human victim

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who died because of the chupacabras. I can imagine saying

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that for real, this just in, just in the a

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serial killer. Gaitan reported that the victim was lasting returning

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home after grabbing a feed drinks. The reporter interviewed Ector

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Danielle Sosa, a volunteer fire firefighter in the region, who

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said the victim was found the marks on his neck

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and a damaged ear. We proceeded to turn him around

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and to see his face completely destroyed. It was very impactful,

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the volunteer firefighter told the reporter. Scary. Yeah. The segment

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also featured an interview with a local judge who backed

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Sosa's claims that marks found on the neck not a judge.

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The segment then showed an alleged witness who said he

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saw a strange dog looking animal hovering over the body.

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The victim's brother was also interviewed, but unlike the local

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town people, he didn't believe that chubukatas did it. He

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believed more saturn. He believed his brother was robbed and

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killed during the attack. Yeah, and honestly probably Yeah. Yet

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the show ends with the segment and with the following statement. Nevertheless,

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others think differently and believe there's something rare about this

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death because, just like previously reported Chubukata attacks, the cause

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has been hard to explain by science. Only time will

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have the answer. But until that time comes, the town

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of San Antonio suschite Peke will not be able to

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rest in peace. Imagine. Okay, so like the brothers, like

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I think he was, I'd be pissed killed and then

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comes in the anchor not actually it was chupacabras. And

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no matter what the brother says, everyone is scared of

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the chip in the town. Such, No, that was wrong? Such,

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No didn't I say? No? That was right? Yeah? No

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you did. I don't know now, Succi tip I can,

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but Yeah, I would pissed if I was the brother.

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Me too, Me too. This one I remember also because

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it's been repeated over and over again in different different times.

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The next story, Yes, the next story we're going to

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talk about is the Virgin Mary statue crying blood. You

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remember that, right, classic of course? Yeah, and I believe it. Oh,

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this was reported just nine years ago, not a long

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time ago. I was still a baby and so very global. Yeah,

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the show reported on a statue the Virgin Mary in Mexico.

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You know what, That's probably why we remember it more

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because we're like, oh my god. Yeah, I think that's

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why I always as many of you know, that's where

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our family live. So one thing we will not stop

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talking about is how our family's from there. Yes, and

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so yeah, they said there was a Virgin Mary statue

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and Guada Kada crying blood and warning people of evil

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and violent events to come. Actually, do you remember this?

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The story was told by the reporter at CDI Cardenas.

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According to the report, the Virgin of Fatima had allegedly

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been crying blood for four months since the owner Judas

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purchased it in December. Tebeta. Das told Cardinas he placed

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the statue in his living room and only allows people

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to come at night to view it and pray the Rosary.

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She began to manifest tears little by little, so we

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had to wipe them off with cotton balls. But the

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manifestation was so much, so she began to bleed more

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and we had to put her in a case. That's

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what he said. Interesting, the owner told, remating back to

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he previously owned religious paintings that bled, but he handed

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them over to the archbishop of La Da Kara. Okay,

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are they in the cathedral? We should look for them.

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We are going to go there soon, we are. In

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addition to the bleeding, the owner claims the bleeding statue

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had revealed some bad prophecies that would happen soon. In

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this month of August. Some difficult stuff will come. You know,

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if I had to pretend that I was going to

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do a prophecy, this is what my prophecy would be.

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It's so generic, like, yes, some difficult stuff will come.

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That could mean anything. Of course that's going to come true. Yeah.

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And when I trip while holding that could be the

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difficult stuff. Or I'm going to be like, oh my god,

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my life I have faced too many difficulties. Yeah, and

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those are the difficulties that I would have warned you

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about in my prophecy, because you can't be too specific

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or too no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's just the right

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amount where yeah, anyone could be like, oh my god,

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it did happen. Yeah. Finally, Soada claims he won't hand

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the statue over to the local archbishop because previously they

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had failed to keep him updated on the item's authenticity.

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I guess they never authenticated his portraits, paintings, paintings. I

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guess he still has it. Maybe, I don't know. Interesting

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he would start charging people. So. The next story is

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a UFO travel route in lais La Bonita, Puerto Rico.

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A segment aired by Premitting Pacto in twenty twelve claims

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that a group of uthologists have found a part of

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the route UFOs used when visiting Earth journalists. Kiki Garcia

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Montes spoke to a group of locals who frequent Lajas,

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Puerto Rico, and claimed this town is part of an

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extraterrestrial route. There is a ton of UFO sigis in

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Puerto Rico. I mean it could be true, then I

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believe in this one. I believe. Yeah, this is just

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some hard hitting journalism. They're letting themselves be seen more

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and more on this route. There's something they want from us,

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Renaldo Rios told Garcia Montes. Renaldo Rios claims he has

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been channeling messages from UFO for decades and they led

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him to Lakas. I was supposed to stay crippled. I

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then saw three lights passed by my room that turned

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into small luminous entities. They cured my back and told

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me I came to this world to introduce them and

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prepare their past. He said, well, that's very nice of

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them to cure him. Yeah, they should if we're going

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to be bothering him to like, if they expected to

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watch for them. Yeah, that's the least they could do.

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Pay him. Pay the man, I agree. Francisco al Mora,

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who owns the mountain the group of UFO believers visits.

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He owns the mountain. Interesting, yes, anyway, He says that

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the group made him a believer. He said, I'm not

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a big fan, but to be honest, I've seen it.

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I have to see it to believe it. The government

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has asked me for permission to put something there too,

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maybe like a like a watch tower or something to

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watch the ufo and Mota told Premium Bacto UFOs constantly

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fly over his land and said he last saw one

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two days before speaking with the reporter. Another local believer,

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Sharon Flores or Shadow I guess, told the reporter that

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means from another universe, told her there are two rocks

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in a nearby mountain that will be vital during a

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catastrophe that said to happen another generic prophecy. Yeah, I

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need them to say what day. Oh wait, it does

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get more specific. Hold on shit. Okay, whoop, I'm judging

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too soon. Okay. Sharon went out to say, those are

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the rocks that are going to give water to the

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people because all of the other water is going to

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be contaminated. I believe it. I don't need any further proof.

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Another Garcia and addition says extra terrestrials have performed surgery

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on her without any tools. They did cure the other

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guy too, So yeah, they put their hand in here,

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turned everything around, and then they took their hand out

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for a bit, and then they put it in again

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and strengthened everything. And then they came across my ribs

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and strengthened that too. Oh no, I had to fight

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the urge to say that. She said, Okay, interesting technique.

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There On the night, on the night that I got

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to say, im on desk joined the group, they only

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observed a small light in the sky, but the group

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still believes that full proof evidence of life another planet

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will eventually be found in the sky over la As.

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If it's fine anywhere, it's gonna be Puerto Rico. Like

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there's so many signings there, and I've heard Lahas before

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and I can't remember if this is the same region

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as El Yunke or if it's somewhere else, because again

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I don't know the geography in Porto Rico, but there's

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a lot of signings in this like forest area Yunke.

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So yeah, that I for sure believe, and that was

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it is that that was okay? Yeah. I remember the

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Chupacras because I've come across it time and time again

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later and I remember. And also that's not the first time.

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I feel like they were always talking about the rash. Yeah,

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but like the Chupa Lechusac came up a few times

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encountering one ufo. So yeah, I recall these stories. But

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I definitely believe some of them. I don't remember like

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really believing them, but I do remember hearing the tier

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one there were Germ Mary tier one. Yeah, more than one.

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Let us know, yeah, let us know what permitting back

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to the stories and you remember, but hard hitting permitting

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back to the stories impacted you. And if you feel

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personally victimized by permitting pact, all right, And I guess

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we'll take a little on break here and return with

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my behalf of the episode. And we're back. And like

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I said at the top, this has to do. It's

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a Cuban crime case and it involves the men and

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this is but not the men in this says that

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we know that are also Cuban. Did you know that

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about them? I think I did. I'm leaving that case

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for another day. I still want to one day, but again,

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it's a lot anyway. No, it doesn't involve murder, but

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it does involve a scamming Latino US senator Okay, Bob

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mean and this, And after I typed all this, I'm like, oh, man,

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I hope this isn'tn't like two boring. Oh I love

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a good scam. So and by the end of it,

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I was like, was this even a good scam? I

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don't know, but let's well, I guess we'll find out.

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It's tuly now. So Bob or Robert aka Bob mean

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and This was born January first, Netey four in New

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York City to Cuban immigrant parents, marioman in This and

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Evangelina mean in This. They fled Cuba just a few

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months before Robert was born in New York City in

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the US. He Mario Menandez became a carpenter and Evan

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Quellina became a seamstress. That's what they did. But they

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left New York City for New Jersey. That's where Bob

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Menandez was born in not born, story raised, That's where

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he was raised. I was like, he was already born.

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That's where he was born and raised spreading misinformation all right.

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He went to Union Hill High School, where he developed

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a love for public speaking. And naturally, I feel like

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if you're if you love public speaking, you're only going

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to do one of two things. Your podcast. Oh yeah,

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I mean, and I think diabolical falls into that. You're

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gonna start podcast, You're going to become an actor actress,

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or you're going to become a politician. Yeah, that's my theory,

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because I got an A in public spe I'm really good.

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I hate public speaking. I think I got I got

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an A also, but I didn't enjoy not one minute

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of it. Okay I did. Oh, I couldnot stand it.

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Put me in front of well that's why I didn't

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want to do anything live in the panel either. So

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that's true. You didn't want to and then you left

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for pain. You didn't get back. And then I told him,

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I told you not to tell anybody else ping, and

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then he told everybody, and I was like, if I

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can binge, yeah, yep, anyway, So yeah, you're going to

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do one of three things if you love public speaking,

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become a dictator anyway. So yeah, he loved public speaking

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and he developed like he just developed that skill with

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the help of his speech teacher, Gail Harper. He later

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told his mama, and I'm sorry I wrote that and

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I regretted it. Sorry. He later told his mom that

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miss Harper helped him understand the power of education and

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what it means to put a premium on learning and

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working hard. So those Latino ideals are already like a

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great rain, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, he

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became a student body president politics. He was clearly a

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bright student, but he did have very tough times too.

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His father, Mariumanendez, was a gambling addict and he died

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by suicide after not being able to pay some of

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his debts. So, oh that's rough, Yeah it is. Yeah.

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Despite that, though, Bob men and this was the first

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in the family to go to college. He attended Saint

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Peter's College in Jersey City. He graduated with his BA

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in political science. And then I don't know what this

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is juris doctor degree a lawyer full Oh thanks, I

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like I said, I'm a dumb bitch. I don't have

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a degree like you. That's try new okay, from Rutgers

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Law School in nineteen seventy nine. It's like, that's a degree.

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And then you had to pass the bar to be

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like actual I think practicing Yes, yeah, okay, and does

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all makes sense? Then he took the bar and passed

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it in nineteen eighty and became a lawyer in a

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private practice. But between all that he made time for politics.

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I thought you were going to say he made time

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for scams. No, no, no, I don't think the scamming

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started yet. So he was an aide to William V. Musto,

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Union City mayor turned state senator. Bob was doing this

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in high school. That's when he started. That's when he

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became an aid to the mayor. To be doing that

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kind of job, isn't it. I don't know. It almost

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sounds I llegal to me, But whatever, Maybe I don't

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know team that's like that. Maybe well this was earlier.

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I don't know when those age limit playes. Yeah. So, yeah,

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he was doing this in high school. And when he

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couldn't afford his ap classics books, he worked with the

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mayor to reform the education board to get those textbooks

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for kind of high schooler is this? And yeah, those

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books should have been provided. Well yeah, but that's how

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you could tell the type of person. He was driven smart.

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I mean, I'm rooting for him now. I don't know

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how we feel later, right, I feel like we're on

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scam Goddess. I'm sorry, Oh, well, that's what we are today.

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So he was elected to the Union City Board of

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Education in nineteen seventy four, becoming the youngest candidate ever

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to hold that position. Wow, I'm sorry, I feel like also,

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I'm getting red flags for all of this because every time,

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like on Behind the Bastards and also on Scam Goddess,

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when they bring up someone like this, they're like, if

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you're a child, then you enjoy urging. He sorry, yeah,

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like that's a red flag. I mean he was twenty

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when he did this, but like it's always like little

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things like that, like, oh, this is the youngest person

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to do this, and I'm like, it's it is so okay.

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I'll just just want to put that out there, just

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not saying it has to be a red flag, but

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Loki kind of is, yeah, no, kind of agree there.

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So he also tried running against William Musto, his mentor,

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for mayor, but he lost in nineteen eighty two. Between

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nineteen eighty seven and nineteen ninety two, he did win

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the election to represent New Jersey's thirty third district in

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the General Assembly. In March nineteen ninety one, he moved

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from the Assembly to the New Jersey State Senate because

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the previous senator died and he won that sudden emergency

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election and he became the Senator. And then in nineteen

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ninety two there was some redistricting, and so when this happened,

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the thirteenth district became a majority Latino district and Bob

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mean in this decided to run in the primary for Ooh,

442
00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:00.759
was this for the Senate? I didn't write it down

443
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:04.519
for something, and he did defeat Oh yeah, it is

444
00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:07.920
for the Senate. Defeat Robert Haney sixty eight percent to

445
00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:11.160
thirty two percent. That's kind of a lot. Yeah, And so,

446
00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:13.839
I mean, I could go on about his political careers,

447
00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:17.119
but like he won a lot, and let didn't want

448
00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:19.480
a bar anyone with details about this is all just

449
00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:22.960
to get a sense of his like his career, his career,

450
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:28.680
his ambition before the crimeing corruptions, the red flags. Yeah.

451
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:32.440
So during throughout his time in the Senate, he tended

452
00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:35.160
to vote like Republicans when it came to foreign affairs.

453
00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:37.839
Most senators do, though, Like it's a rare number that

454
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:39.960
don't do this, they don't vote this way. But he

455
00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:43.359
was a strong advocate for immigration reform. He introduced the

456
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:46.799
Comprehensive Immigration Reform Active twenty eleven, but it died in

457
00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:49.799
the Senate Judiciary Committee, as things do. If you remember

458
00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:54.119
that School of Rock Bill, I'm Bill. Yeah, I don't

459
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:57.160
know if it actually sent that in two thousand and nine.

460
00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:00.839
In two thousand nine, he introduced the Orphans and Widowers

461
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.759
Protection Act, which would grant a pathway to citizenship for

462
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:08.160
undocumented widowers and orphans of deceased US citizens, which is, yeah,

463
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:11.680
I liking that should happen. Yeah, yeah, But I looked

464
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.039
at this up on Congress dot gov slash bill. You

465
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:17.240
can look things up and where they are. Yes, And

466
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:19.920
this never got past the judiciary either.

467
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:20.279
Lame.

468
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:23.240
Yeah. He was a strong supporter of the Dream Act,

469
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:27.240
voting for it co sponsoring it. He voted to continue

470
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:31.160
federal funding for sanctuary cities. Despite all this, he did

471
00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:33.480
vote for the Secure Fens Acts of two thousand and six,

472
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.000
which was to build seven hundred miles of barriers and

473
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:40.799
expens surveiliance at the US Mexican border. Don't like that, Nope.

474
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:45.240
He supported gun law reform and called for universal background

475
00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:48.119
checks for gun owners and the banning of assault weapons,

476
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:53.039
which made the NRA hate him. He also voted for

477
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:56.000
the Respect for Marriage Act, which was signed into Lawn

478
00:27:56.000 --> 00:28:00.000
twenty twenty two. If we remember, that's how they basically

479
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.960
he said, yes, you can be married if you're gay, Like,

480
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:06.839
oh god, the name makes it sound like it's respect

481
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:10.119
like traditional marriage. And I was like, right, I forgot

482
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:13.279
there was no Yeah, I don't know the name of

483
00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:16.599
the previous thing, but it basically undid the previous law

484
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:20.920
that band okay, gotcha, and he he voted for that too.

485
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:25.480
So all this to say, consistently on the papers, he

486
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:29.839
looks good for now. Yeah. He was even a member

487
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:33.880
of the Human Rights Caucus, among other caucauses. That's not

488
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:39.920
the right word. I don't know an either plural caucus. Uh,

489
00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:47.960
the plural word is kokai. Yeah, that sounds right. And

490
00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:51.160
he was celebrated as a sixth Latino ever to serve

491
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:56.720
in the US A Senate. Wow wow, six sixth ever

492
00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:01.319
Dawn to serve in the Senate. Wow wow. Well yeah,

493
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:07.160
he's doing big things, truly. His entrance into major politics

494
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:10.200
was dethroning a corrupt mayor, if we want to be

495
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:14.640
dramatic about it, because that mayor that was his mentor

496
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:18.839
that I mentioned earlier. Really he had to testify in

497
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:23.319
a corruption trial against that mayor, and then he won

498
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:26.599
that mentor that mayor's seat like a few years later.

499
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:32.200
So yeah, like on paper, if if looking up to

500
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:36.640
politicians is your thing, right now, he's like looking good. Yeah,

501
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:39.480
someone to look up to, a Latino politician to look

502
00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:44.119
up to, very aoc. Yeah, not as progressive, but yeah,

503
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:50.880
still consistently voting the right way, doing things, trailbasing things right, right,

504
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.839
right right, breaking the glass ceiling as you might say.

505
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.599
So all this changed when he fell from Grace and

506
00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:04.720
into Brison dramatic music prison. Yeah, that's what I'm sharing.

507
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:09.160
Bob did it all for love and friendship. What I guess.

508
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:12.880
Bob's political successes were just not enough. His staffers would

509
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:20.160
later say that he wanted to be rich rich. Yeah.

510
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:24.519
So in nineteen ninety five, during a pricey Democratic Party fundraiser,

511
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:26.680
you know the ones where the plates all cost a

512
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:29.079
bunch of money, and yeah, that's how they raised money.

513
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:31.720
So it's like all rich people during a fundraiser like

514
00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:36.319
this in Florida, Bob Menendez met Salomon Melchen and he

515
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:39.720
was an eye doctor in West Palm Beach and a multimillionaire.

516
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:42.680
After some investments, he and Bob really hit it off.

517
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:46.319
They were both Latino men with immigrant parents who fled

518
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:50.559
their countries, except like Solomon was from the Dominican Republic,

519
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:53.279
not from Cuba. But they bonded over that, you know,

520
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:58.119
the trauma of being raised as a Latino child of immigrants.

521
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:02.200
So they became best things after that. And this fundraiser

522
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:07.960
marks the start of that relationship that involved favors, not

523
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:12.839
the favors, yeah, favors. So this was where Solomon first

524
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:15.640
donated money to Bob. Bob, Oh, my god, I was

525
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:21.319
gonna say, Bob, well, he first where he first donated

526
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:23.480
money to Bob. And it was a small five hundred

527
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.680
dollars donation, Okay, and that was just a start, yeah,

528
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:31.480
just no change for Solomon exactly, and the two became

529
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:34.839
close after this. The families met together, the vacation together,

530
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:40.319
Solomon started paying for flights for Bob, he flew out

531
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:45.799
the family. Yeah, and when Bob became a senator, Solomon

532
00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:50.200
started making large donations to his friend, bigger donations. And

533
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:53.559
then at some point, yeah, Bob starts doing favors to

534
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.559
help his buddy Solomon out. So in two thousand and eight,

535
00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:59.559
Solomon went to Bob for help because his twenty two

536
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:03.559
year old sorry Solomon was also married. A'm married, Oh okay,

537
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:06.559
but he went to Bob men and this to help

538
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.160
his twenty two year old girlfriend from the Dominican Republic

539
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:12.960
visit because her visa was denied, and he was like,

540
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:15.319
I don't know why it was denied, Bob, please help me,

541
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:19.119
and Bob did. The visa was personally expectited by him,

542
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.440
like and immediately approved. Oh I didn't know they could

543
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:27.359
do that. Apparently it was. It's not common, but it

544
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.119
can happen because he called in a favor and yeah,

545
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:34.240
the visa was approved in seconds. He did this two

546
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:38.559
more times with two other girlfriends. Oh my god, for Solomon,

547
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:43.119
who was married. Oh I don't like that. Yeah, and like,

548
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:46.759
maybe this isn't straight up corruption, but like it's little

549
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:49.960
tiny steps to get there. I mean, everyone starts somewhere.

550
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:52.519
Usually it's something small, and then it just leads to

551
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:58.599
more and more. Yeah, you know, bigger things, crimes exactly. Yeah.

552
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:02.160
So in two thousand and nine, Solomon came to Bob

553
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:05.920
for help with a problem. But this was no small problem.

554
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:10.759
Solomon had been over billing Medicare for an drug use.

555
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:15.519
Oh no, in his practice, and this amount that he

556
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.759
overbuilt was summed up to almost nine million dollars oh no,

557
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:23.799
oh my god, eight point nine million to be exact.

558
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.880
And so Bob being a good friend. Bob went to

559
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:31.240
the Senate Majority leader's office and to the Secretary of

560
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:34.680
Health and Human Services to help his friend Solomon. And

561
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.960
I mean he must have because like so he wrote

562
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:42.039
then other people to make this problem for Solomon goalway,

563
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:46.279
that's w Yeah. And then in twenty eleven, Solomon went

564
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:50.359
to Bob again. He needed help with a port security

565
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.680
contract for a company that Solomon was a part owner of.

566
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:57.440
So he was like, help me with my company, with

567
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:01.319
my security company. That's what he went to Bob for help, right,

568
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:04.680
So the help he needed was that this his security

569
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:07.920
company had a five million contract with the Dominican Republic,

570
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:11.400
the government of the Dominican Republic. But the government was

571
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:14.960
trying to back out of this deal, and so obviously

572
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:16.880
this would lose Solomon a lot of money. It was

573
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:20.239
a five million dollar contract. So then Bob, being a

574
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:23.239
good friend, you know, just a good friend, he stepped in.

575
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:26.760
But like he was a member of the Senate a

576
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:31.480
Foreign Relations committee. Oh no, and at some point he

577
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:33.880
became the chair of that committee. Oh sorry, he was

578
00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:36.679
also the chair of the committee that oversees relations with

579
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:41.159
the Dominican Republic. That's not good. So if he in

580
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:44.079
this position, goes to the Dominican Republic and persuades them

581
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:49.719
to take this contract. That's like ethically, yeah, that's not right, wrong,

582
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:52.639
yeah yeah, But Bob pushes to enforce his contract for

583
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.960
his friend. Why wouldn't he because over the years, Solomon

584
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:58.760
had given him hundreds of thousands of dollars in gifts,

585
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:04.360
which Bob kept out of his financial disclosure report. Oh

586
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:08.320
my god. Yeah. And then in twenty thirteen, Bob became

587
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:12.159
the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, the first

588
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:17.239
Latino ever to hold this office. Wow, he's giving us

589
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.760
a bad name. Oh my god. As this is happening,

590
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:24.880
as he got this position, the FBI is rating his

591
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:29.480
best these offices. Because Solomon wasn't just committing medicare fraud

592
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:33.000
by overbuilding that one medication. No, he was also falsely

593
00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:37.840
diagnosing patients with macular degeneration. This is not super rare,

594
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:40.639
but it's not super super super common. This is an

595
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:43.360
age related eye condition. Part of the retina called the

596
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:47.840
macular becomes damaged. It happens in people older than fifteen

597
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:50.400
most of the time. There is a more rare genetic

598
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:54.639
version of it. So again, not super rare, but not

599
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:58.920
this common, not as often as he was diagnosing it exactly. Yeah,

600
00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:01.480
So he was over a diagnos it and then billing

601
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:05.360
test and procedures related to the diagnosis that was overdiagnosed

602
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.199
and getting all that money for the diagnosis and for

603
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:11.679
all the tests and procedures related to the diagnosis that

604
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:15.159
was not true in the Yeah. And so you know,

605
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:18.840
whenever senators get positions like these, they do have to

606
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:23.840
go through like a what's it called, like hearing confirmations yes, yes.

607
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.599
And so during this he spent Bob spent his time

608
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:30.639
defending his friendship with Solomon because it was under scrutiny,

609
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:34.679
because of course it was. They're like, Bob, tell us

610
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:39.159
about your homies Solomon. Yeah, I'm kind of talking about

611
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:43.159
his sketch things about him. Yeah. And during this time,

612
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:45.920
Bob even trying to pay Solomon back for some of

613
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:48.280
the free flights to the Dominican Republic to make it

614
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:52.320
seem less like bribes and favors. But he only paid

615
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.119
for two when there have been over a dozen flights.

616
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:57.840
Oh wow. And after a year of being questioned about this,

617
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:02.239
Bob's campaign paid big money to retain a Washington law

618
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:05.239
firm to like, you know, defend themselves. I guess all this.

619
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:09.159
And then April two fifteen came Bob was indicted on

620
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:13.760
federal corruption charges due to the solemnon situation OO. And

621
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:17.639
during this he gave a speech defending his anti corruption stance,

622
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:20.199
like how could I be corrupt? I came into into

623
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:24.599
politics standing up against corruptions. I can't be corrupt. Oh

624
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:26.880
my god. On the crowd was still on his side.

625
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:31.280
They cheered, they clapped. That's like, what did okay remember

626
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:34.199
when well, this is gonna sound don't want to say,

627
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:36.599
but okay, I remember when Ken Drake and Drake were

628
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:39.960
first feeding right, and then didn't Drake come out and

629
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:43.119
see the dumbest shit something about like if I if

630
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:46.360
I did about like if he liked Milling, Bobby Brown

631
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:49.039
or some dumb shit he said. I remember what he said,

632
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:51.760
but it was so stupid, and it's like, that's the

633
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:54.840
argument you're going to use to defend yourself. I don't

634
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:57.119
remember talking about he said, Actually I think it was

635
00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:00.159
one of the songs in one of Drake's songs, one

636
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.480
of his responses. I don't remember what he said, but

637
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:04.559
it was so stupid. You know, what, if I was

638
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.840
a pedophile would I do this? Yeah, it's like something

639
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:10.920
that a pedophile would do. It was so dumb. I

640
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:13.159
don't even know. How would I look this up? Drake

641
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:19.119
pedophile line defending himself. Drake is not a name that

642
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:22.039
you you're going to see on No Sex of thunder List.

643
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:25.199
If I was effing young girls, I promise I'd have

644
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:27.679
been arrested. I'm way too famous for this ship. You

645
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:35.639
just suggested. Yes, that's the vibes. It's giving. If I

646
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:39.440
was corrupt, how could I would be arrested? If I

647
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:44.039
was doing crimes, I would be arrested. No, you're right,

648
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:46.280
You're right, that is the vibes. Oh my god, I'm

649
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:49.159
so glad you brought that up. You're welcome. Hm, that's funny.

650
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.119
And yeah, his constituents were still on his side, his

651
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.639
fellow party members still on his side. But like again,

652
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:58.199
these were just words because like the money trail was

653
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:03.559
there was there. There was a lot of emails between

654
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:06.519
Bob and Solomon, emails that showed Bob except the free

655
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.239
flights on private jets and large donations in exchange for

656
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:12.039
helping Bob with several things like the Lisa's with the

657
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:15.159
girlfriends who were far far younger than him, but still

658
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:19.440
don't and it takes two years for the case to

659
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:21.800
go to court, like these things have to be prepared, right,

660
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:25.559
And so I guess that's when I thought this happened

661
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:28.079
more recently. But from what I was researching, it looks

662
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:31.880
like around when this case is going to court, McDonald

663
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:36.000
versus the United States happened. And I'm not going to

664
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:38.079
get super into it, but the podcast five four does

665
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:40.599
have an excellent episode on why this is not a

666
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:42.840
good ruling, but it was a good thing for Bob

667
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.760
because essentially this redefine what bribery is when it comes

668
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:50.079
to politicians. According to scotus Blog, the federal Bribery Statute

669
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:53.320
eighteen USC. Two hundred and one makes it a crime

670
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:55.880
for a public official to receive or accept anything of

671
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:58.320
value in exchange for being influenced in the performance of

672
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:02.119
an official act. Official act is a decision or action

673
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:06.239
on a question, matter, costuit preceding your controversy. That question

674
00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:10.400
or matter must involve a formal exercise of governmental power

675
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:13.400
and must also be something specific and focused that is

676
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:17.280
pending or may by lobby brought before a public official.

677
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:20.559
To qualify as an official act, the public official must

678
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.320
make a decision to take an action on that question

679
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:26.440
or matter, or agree to do so. Setting up a meeting,

680
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.880
talking to another official, organizing event without more does not

681
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:32.360
fit that definition of an official act. Give a more

682
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:34.039
basic way of saying that I do, but I don't

683
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:36.000
know if you want to. I think it's the same

684
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:40.719
as you're going to say. Okay, Basically, a politician is

685
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.960
receiving a gift, they shouldn't be the person giving that

686
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:47.119
gift has to say, this is a brian in exchanged

687
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:49.840
for this thing that I want. Yeah, that's the same

688
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:50.800
thing I was going to say. And I was like,

689
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.360
that episode cracked me up because result it was like

690
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:55.639
a horrible, dumb ruling. But that's how they explained and

691
00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:58.840
they let's talking shit the whole time. So yeah, sir, sir,

692
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:04.400
excuse me, here's this please? This is a bribe. So yeah,

693
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:08.880
now making it harder to pray? Yeah, what a bribe

694
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:11.719
if it was bribery or not. Yeah, So yeah, this

695
00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:16.679
was terrible for the country, right because they're all bribes

696
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:21.039
and fucking all us over. Yes, yeah, so good for them,

697
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:26.639
especially Clarence Thomas. Fucking Clarence Thomas. Yeah, terrible for us,

698
00:41:26.760 --> 00:41:29.840
good for our politicians and for Bob. Great for Bob,

699
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.440
way to go, and terrible for the prosecution. Again, great

700
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:37.559
for Bob as he was about to start tmrial. Yeah,

701
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:40.800
so they called several witnesses for the prosecution. One of

702
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:45.199
them was one of Solomon's many ex girlfriends, Ukrainian part

703
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:49.639
time model svit Lana. I love that name, and I

704
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:51.840
was watching something else I was talking about this and

705
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:53.800
they were like, svit Lana showed up to court in

706
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:56.960
an all black suit, her long, gorgeous black hair and

707
00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:59.559
her just red fiery nails. So she was looking like

708
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:03.599
a boss sounds like slowly queen. And so she was

709
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:07.039
supposed to testify on the behalf of the prosecution to

710
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:12.039
like prove that Bob was taking advantage of his position

711
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:16.280
to help Solomon. That was the goal, right, And so

712
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:19.480
when when she testified, she was asked, you know why

713
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:21.360
you're here, and she was like, no, he's forcing me

714
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:26.440
to be here about the prosecutor. Oh my god, Like, no,

715
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:28.920
I don't know why I am here. Literally she sighed.

716
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:31.920
She signed and said no, which everyone like chuggled a

717
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:35.440
little on the record and they're like, she sighed for

718
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:38.960
the record. There was a visible audible sign the car

719
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:47.159
clerk side witness side rolled the rides and said no, no,

720
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:50.519
because that's what she did. And when asked about the

721
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:54.000
role that Senator Menendez played and helping get her visa,

722
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:57.119
she said, it's a very long time ago, and it's

723
00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.360
very hard to remember exact conversations, and it's very hard

724
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:02.440
to talk to you because you get picky with every

725
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:07.639
word that I say. Oh, which people laughed. Again she

726
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:12.480
was entertaining, oh no, that's not good. Yeah, and her

727
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.159
testimony really made them sound like BFFs and like it

728
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:19.480
wasn't just him using his power to help Solomon. They

729
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:21.719
were like ermannos is what she said. They said they

730
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:26.400
were ermannos. And at some point she said that this

731
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:30.639
was all so boring. Oh my god. The court person

732
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:34.440
to laughter, Wow that you're just like what do they

733
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:38.360
say when they hit the gavel and they're like order, order, order, yes,

734
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:39.800
bring in the crabs.

735
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:40.519
No.

736
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:44.400
But yeah, it was a it was a mess, and

737
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:47.440
people loved her, and it was not helpful for the prosecution,

738
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:52.079
helpful for Bob Damn, Corey Booker and other I think

739
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:54.320
you know who that is. Another New Jersey senator testified

740
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:58.639
on Bob's behalf to like the Democratic was on his side. Well,

741
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:00.719
they all thought he was innocent, that they were all

742
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:04.679
rooting for him. They also needed him to win because

743
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:07.480
if he was found guilty, the Republican governor at the

744
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:12.000
time would pick Bob's replacement. So these cestimonies all go through,

745
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:15.199
and in the end, just before Thanksgiving, the case ended

746
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:18.800
in a mistrial because only two DREAM members found him

747
00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:22.360
guilty and ten declared him innocent. So yeah, it was

748
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:24.960
a mistrial. He was free to return to his political

749
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:29.000
career damage free. And instead of taking this opportunity to

750
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:32.480
stop and be better and like not do things that

751
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:35.440
maybe he was like, this isn't corrupt, this isn't me

752
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:37.960
taking advantage of my position. Maybe he really believed that.

753
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:45.039
I don't know. Oh, but instead of doing those things,

754
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:47.519
he did the opposite because he met the love of

755
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:49.400
his life. And who wouldn't want to do things like

756
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.159
this for the love of their life. Yeah, you want

757
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:55.880
to show me you love me the crimes for me. Yeah,

758
00:44:56.079 --> 00:45:00.519
that's the real test, you know. And they're each other.

759
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:03.159
I guess he didn't meet her officially at this point,

760
00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:06.719
so they they got together, Oh, they meet her official

761
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:11.840
and eighteen. So this brings us to Nadine Orslenian Orslenian.

762
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:14.159
Bob knew her for ten years at this point, but

763
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:16.039
they were just friends, the kind of friends that you

764
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:19.559
call and wish a happy Birthday to every year. And Nadine,

765
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:23.159
this was a surprise to me. Nadine was well known

766
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:26.440
in New Jersey. She she had been trying to become

767
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:28.559
friends with the Real Housewives of New Jersey for a

768
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:32.559
long time. Okay, and they all knew her, and even

769
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:35.960
they said she much to them. Yeah, and she was

770
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:40.000
so much how like they they said, she was too

771
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:43.840
obsessed with status symbols like fancy clothes and billtoks. Oh wow,

772
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:47.559
I need picture from them. Oh yeah, yeah. If that's

773
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:51.440
coming from the Real Housewives right away, it's like you

774
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:53.679
can tell she's out of Bob's league. Wait, I need

775
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:57.880
to stay picture of Bob too. Oh and this is

776
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:02.000
this some mean next to her? Must be Bob. Yeah

777
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:06.800
that's Bob. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. We'll post these pictures on

778
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.639
the YouTube video and then later on Instagram too. So yeah,

779
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:14.039
she was she was too much for the Housewives of

780
00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:17.320
New Jersey. In the Real Housewives of New Jersey. That's wild.

781
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:21.840
Apparently she was enemies with most of them. Wow, so yeah,

782
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:26.000
they're like dating I know that, bitch. Yeah, take from

783
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:28.079
that way you will. She was also well known in

784
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:30.159
the dating scene, but no in a good way because

785
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:34.800
she had very strong emotions like jealous possessiveness, restraining order

786
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:41.440
levels strung. She was arrested in twenty eighteen for violating

787
00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:44.119
a restraining order against an X but before she was

788
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:47.320
putting cuffs and removed from the scene. She hit the

789
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:49.800
guy with the photo album. But she was actually abusive.

790
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:54.280
Yeah yeah, And for a while she was out and

791
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:57.760
off with a lawyer named Doug who represented R Kelly

792
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:01.000
at some point. So interesting, all of this is like,

793
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:06.039
really R Kelly discussing But Bob, Bob had always accepted

794
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:09.159
her for who she was. They connected on a deeper level,

795
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:12.320
both of them being from immigrant families that fled their countries.

796
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.239
She was Armenian. And then in December twenty eighteen, on

797
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:18.079
the phone with her, he confessed that he loved her,

798
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:21.800
He's always loved her. He would treat her rite not

799
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:24.159
like Doug, and she was like, oh my god, how

800
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:27.079
did I not ever see this? And they left together

801
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.159
for a trip to the Dominican Republic just a few

802
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.079
months after being together. But they would meet at the

803
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:36.320
local ihop every week after this confession of love. Okay,

804
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.320
that's weird. You wouldn't meet at the local I hop

805
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:44.400
and a weekly I Hop date, a standing I Hop date.

806
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.199
I don't know, I don't think. So it's actually a

807
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:51.000
bit much. Yeah, to be eating like I hoped that often.

808
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:56.599
It's not even that good. No, it's not, Oh my god.

809
00:47:56.679 --> 00:48:01.239
So yeah, at some point after there are Dominican Republic

810
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:04.559
trip together, their first solo trip together, Nadine introduced her

811
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:07.960
good friend While Hannah to her new boyfriend Bob Mean

812
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:10.880
and this and While had been down on his luck

813
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:15.480
for a while, despite his good connections with the Egyptian government.

814
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:19.239
While was not doing good. He had a few failed businesses,

815
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:21.639
but he had a new plan. While he was gonna

816
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:26.199
start a new company, a new halal meat processing company. Oh,

817
00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:29.159
I was like, Bob, Bob is his plan. Well, yeah,

818
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:32.559
Bob is part of his plan. So he was going

819
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:34.719
to start this company. And his first contract was with

820
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:38.239
the Egyptian government, but only if Bob used his power

821
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:41.000
as Ahead of Foreign Relations Committee to loosen a military

822
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:45.280
financial aid to Egypt. He just would agree to help

823
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:51.159
while with his company if Bob for them, Yes, so

824
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:57.360
this isn't like helping Solomon anymore. Yeah, then it's not done.

825
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:00.840
While his plan is not over. Then while hire Nadine

826
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:05.639
for a high paying job that wasn't real Okay, wow, yeah,

827
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:10.840
it's actual, like even more scamming beyond bribery. Yeah yeah, fraud.

828
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:16.519
And this was also public. They met with Egyptian officials

829
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:19.800
in a public restaurant more than once. They took selfies together.

830
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:21.599
At least be sneaky about it. If this is what

831
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:25.679
you can do, meet and some don't meet at the

832
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:30.800
local lighthop everywhere, hole in the wall. Yeah, secret restaurant,

833
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:36.639
come on, wow, order in. But no, they took literal

834
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:41.159
selfies together. Oh my god during these meetings, and this

835
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:43.840
continued for a year. During this time, Bob did use

836
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:47.480
this position to advocate to send more aid to Egypt. Woo.

837
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:52.079
Nadine was a middle person going between Bob and the

838
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:56.519
Egyptian government. The government did grant wise hallow Meet company

839
00:49:56.679 --> 00:49:59.480
a monopoly on halal meat, which didn't sit right with

840
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:03.280
the US. So the USDA was like, let's look into

841
00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:05.679
this because this would rise the prices of her lull

842
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.400
meet in the United States, and so they were like,

843
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:11.159
what's going on here? And Bob stepped in again to

844
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:14.920
defend Wyel using his power. He was like, let me

845
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:17.440
call up the USDA and he's like, leave while alone.

846
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:22.199
Oh no, And they did no. But this brought in

847
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:26.639
the FBI, who had already kind of had while on

848
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:30.480
their list of like let's watch out their raiders and yeah, radar,

849
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:34.599
thank you. And so FBI agent Terry Williams Thompson was

850
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:38.639
at Morton's Steakhouse doing surveillance on someone else. She was there,

851
00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:42.800
Oh my god, wow, but she noticed Bob Menendez walking

852
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:45.559
in with his wife. She's like, oh, got him.

853
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:46.000
M h.

854
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:49.880
He walked in with Nadine while and a known Egyptian

855
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:53.760
intelligence officer. Oh no. And she's like, Okay, this is weird.

856
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:56.599
Why is this group of people together. This is not normal.

857
00:50:56.719 --> 00:50:59.119
So she's like doing her normal surveillance, but she's paid

858
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:02.599
attention to the group of people too, and she overhears

859
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:06.440
Nadine say out loud for everyone to hear, I guess

860
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:10.199
what else can the love of my life do for you? Wow?

861
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:14.880
To the Egyptian intelligence officer, that's like now something you

862
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:17.400
want to be caught saying to them, right, So now

863
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:19.480
she takes us back to the FBI, and now the

864
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.480
FBI is like looking at all this, and if you

865
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.000
look at the Google docs, they're and now'll post this picture.

866
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:27.679
But there's a picture in there that FBI agent Terry

867
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:30.440
took at the steakhouse. And it's like that classic picture

868
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:32.440
that you don't want anyone to see that you're taking

869
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:36.239
a picture Terry being and she's most for a living. Yeah,

870
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:38.719
but yeah, she took a picture of them. Wow wow wow.

871
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:43.880
So yeah, again, they were very public about their fraud.

872
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:47.360
It's like the dumbest thing you could do. Mm hmm.

873
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:50.119
A couple months after this meeting, the FBI noticed that

874
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:52.679
Bob wired two hundred and thirty thousand, five hundred and

875
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:56.320
sixty eight dollars with fifty four cents. Oh that's so

876
00:51:56.440 --> 00:52:00.599
specific into a fake company set up by Nadine. Oh wow,

877
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:03.639
this happened to be the exact amount that Nadine needed

878
00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:05.840
to start the foreclosure of her house. Oh my god.

879
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:09.119
I'm I'm saying you can at least like round up

880
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:13.000
a little bit or you know, like, yeah, you're just

881
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:17.199
making their case for them like you're neatly tying up

882
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:21.159
all the evidence together, like you're putting the string on

883
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:26.719
the board for them. Yes, yeah, wow. Of course Bobinidine

884
00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:29.880
had no idea the FBI was on their tail, and

885
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:32.599
so instead of laying low, they started up a new

886
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:37.880
corrupt relationship with someone else. Oh my god, Wow, they

887
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:40.199
just went in harder on the corruption in the fraud

888
00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:45.119
and yeah scamming okay, yes, who they actually they were

889
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:50.440
connected to through Wyel. So already Whyel is a sketchy dude,

890
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:52.760
and anyone you meet through Wayel is going to be

891
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:58.199
automatically sketchy, right, Yeah, So one of us said, Uriva's

892
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:01.599
friend friends was already being investigative by the FBI for

893
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:05.119
insurance fraud, and Jose wod even knew that he would

894
00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:09.559
be implicated eventually by this investigation. So he wanted Bob's

895
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:12.559
help to keep the FBI off his back, and Jose

896
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:15.159
gave them things to try and get on the good

897
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:20.599
side to make this happen. He stupid. Yeah, he made

898
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:24.679
big donations to Bob's campaign. He threw a whole fundraiser

899
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:28.760
for Bob. He gave Nadine fifteen thousand dollars in cash,

900
00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:32.679
which Nadine used for a brand new Mercedes. Then he

901
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:36.440
started making the monthly payments for the Mercedes. Wow. Then

902
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:41.159
Nadine texted Bob, we're the proud owners of a new Mercedes. Again.

903
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:46.960
They're leaving that paper shell for the prosecution. Yes, yeah,

904
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:50.639
So after all these gifts, Bob then tells Jose that

905
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:53.199
he's about to meet with the new Jersey Attorney General.

906
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:56.880
He has Jose write down the list of his associates

907
00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:58.880
so that he can look into this for his meeting

908
00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:02.800
with the Attorney general. Put a pin on that. Two

909
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:06.039
weeks after this meeting with Jose uribe where he tells him,

910
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:08.519
I'm about saying meet with the new Jersey Attorney General.

911
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:10.559
What's that problem? You wanted to meet? A fix for you.

912
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:15.119
So that's what happened in that meeting with Josse and Bob. Right.

913
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:19.559
Two weeks after this meeting, Bob and Nadine are in

914
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:23.480
the taj Mahal and Bob proposes to her. This is

915
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:26.960
now October twenty nineteen. I took They're married, Arnie No again.

916
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:29.920
A couple of weeks after the meeting with Jose, after

917
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:32.280
he'd been giving them all those gifts, this is now

918
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:35.079
taj Mahal and they put it on social media. They're

919
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:38.840
all happy. Host says too, and click on that YouTube

920
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:41.800
link on the Google docs and I you have to

921
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:43.960
hear this, because I had to hear it. Okay, I'm

922
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:45.880
gonna press play now.

923
00:54:49.800 --> 00:55:04.679
She was done. You all the shot in the town spotlight.

924
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:02.960
Long enough?

925
00:55:03.039 --> 00:55:03.159
Right?

926
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:10.400
Yeah? Oh my god, Okay, I don't like that. We'll

927
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:13.360
describe the scene for those on Spotify, don't worry. So

928
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:16.519
what you just heard is Bomb singing to me Dean.

929
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:19.280
That was the proposal. He's sitting behind her on a

930
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:22.719
bench and they're sitting together in the worst possible way.

931
00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:26.760
It's the worst fuck thing I've ever seen. I don't

932
00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:30.159
like PDA Okay, I like watching it. I'm just gonna

933
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:32.119
say that. I don't care if I sound like a prude.

934
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:34.000
I don't want to see it, Okay, not in front

935
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:38.360
of my salad, and and the way that they're sitting,

936
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:40.960
the way that I'm just like, I don't like this. This.

937
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:44.039
This is very reminiscent of a couple that sits next

938
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:46.639
to each other at the restaurant. I don't like that either.

939
00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:50.159
I don't. Yeah, and yeah, that's how that couple would

940
00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:54.400
stand also, like she's sitting gribe all, yeah, on a bench, yeah,

941
00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:57.519
behind behind her, on the top part of the bench

942
00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:02.280
where your back goes. He's standing there behind that. I

943
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:04.360
guess I thought it was a bench. I didn't have

944
00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:06.760
that upper part. Oh, it was just like a bench,

945
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:09.800
you know, like the bench actually makes more sense. You're right, yeah,

946
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:14.480
you're right. So just playing bench with no upper back portion.

947
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:16.440
I don't know what you call that, not like a chair,

948
00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:22.199
a bench. And yeah, he's sitting, she's sitting, he's standing

949
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:24.800
behind her, and then she's looking up at him the

950
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:30.519
whole time while he's singing. And it's disturbing. It's not cute,

951
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:32.920
you know what they were trying to do. It wasn't cute.

952
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:35.880
It was weird and gross. And so the song he's

953
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:39.800
singing is never enough. From the musical The Greatest Shoman Ugh.

954
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:45.159
Actually that's a musical about PT Barnham. Yes, yeah, the

955
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:50.559
circus freak freak as an exploiter of people. Yeah, no,

956
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:54.039
of course as a literal freak, you know, yeah, yeah,

957
00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:57.840
not like a normal freak. Yeah, and that's what he's

958
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:03.480
saying to her, to propose weird, fucking weird, Yeah, but honestly,

959
00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:06.760
to be sitting like that and like be okay with it,

960
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:10.639
you know, they're both fucking freaks. Yeah, and then singing

961
00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:14.559
out loud like that, Yeah, yeah, her being okay with that. Like,

962
00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:19.800
if it's not karaoke and my spouse is singing out

963
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:21.280
loud for everyone to hear, I'd be like, what the

964
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:24.559
fuck are you doing? Yeah? Yeah, karaoke. It was fine.

965
00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:27.840
So yeah, if you're on YouTube, we did play the video.

966
00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:30.960
If not, we described it pretty perfectly. It was fucking gross.

967
00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:36.400
So Jose ooh do you best saw this video? And

968
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:38.519
and he was like, oh, I'm happy for my new

969
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:41.760
corrupted friends. And then he gets a call like almost

970
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:44.480
right away from Bob and Bob tells them, Oh, don't

971
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:46.599
even worry about the thing that you need to help with.

972
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:49.800
It's all taken care of. So I guess he was

973
00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:52.920
able to drop those investigation charges or he thought he

974
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:57.679
was interesting. Yeah, And so you know, things went on.

975
00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:01.039
They were happy, engaged. I don't know when actually got married,

976
00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:04.559
but they were happy where Bob and his wife Nadine

977
00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:08.360
and was regarded name. Yeah, it was all happy for them.

978
00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:12.519
But that didn't last long because eventually, when did this

979
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:14.119
I didn't write down the day, of course, well three

980
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:18.480
December December twenty twenty might have been January twenty twenty. Anyway,

981
00:58:18.679 --> 00:58:22.159
the FBI rated wires home and his offices, and like

982
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:24.280
Bob should have been worried because he was deep in

983
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:27.880
it with while, but it wasn't worried. He continued to

984
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:31.840
meet with Egyptian government officials. He met with an Egyptian

985
00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:35.639
top spy in March twenty twenty, and this spy gave

986
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:40.360
Bob a new mission, A mission, A mission like impossible,

987
00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:44.119
he told Bob. Actually, I don't know they, I don't know.

988
00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:47.199
It could be a woman. I don't know. Anywayomen are

989
00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:52.000
spy too, Yeah, women are not anymore. No, no, not here,

990
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:56.360
not on the US anyway, this spy gave Bob a mission,

991
00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:59.960
he said. They said, we want you, Bob, to stop

992
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:04.039
Ethiopia from building a dam of the Nile River. And

993
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:08.320
Bob got to work email tube cabinet secretaries to get

994
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:11.800
involved with this pressure on Ethiopia to not do this

995
00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:15.440
something you should be doing. No, right, I don't think so.

996
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:19.079
I don't think you should be job like. I don't

997
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:22.840
think that a spy from another government should be able

998
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:25.199
to go to a senator and say, stop this country

999
00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:28.079
from building this thing in my river. I feel you're right.

1000
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:31.920
I don't know, that's just me. Maybe that's just us.

1001
00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:34.480
I don't know, I don't know. In exchange for their

1002
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:38.159
four Bob's help with this dam, while bought them things

1003
00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:42.760
nice exercise equipment, air purefyers. I hope it was like

1004
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:48.280
something expensive that this is ridiculous. Yeah, and then things

1005
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:51.599
got worse from there, like I did a foreign scam

1006
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:56.719
with a foreign government, foreign interference with dams for a peloton,

1007
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:00.880
Like for a peloton, you could probably a four. They're

1008
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:03.800
kind of pricey. I did look into it, and I'm like,

1009
01:00:03.800 --> 01:00:06.559
like five k I felt like that was pricey. I'm like,

1010
01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:10.159
I'll just that keep going crazy. Yeah, yeah, I would

1011
01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:12.920
never Maybe I wouldn't do a crime for a poloton.

1012
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:18.760
Then you know what, I'm just gonna assume it. Put

1013
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:27.840
this for Instagram for many ourselves. Sorry, if you're listening,

1014
01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:30.280
we're just making faces at each other, like like when

1015
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:34.320
we maybe and yeah, again, things go worse because Bob

1016
01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:39.599
wasn't done. He made another shady friend, Bob, Bob come on,

1017
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:45.159
Fred Dabies. Fred was a real estate developer and he

1018
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:48.199
like dressed shady. He was wearing a pop collar with

1019
01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:53.079
a golden chain, like those sleazy seventies crime people. Anyone

1020
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:57.119
with a pop callar, I'm like better stirre clear. Yeah.

1021
01:00:57.199 --> 01:01:03.119
So Fred Daby was the one who helped Wild with

1022
01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:06.480
his halal meat business, so that's already like okay, yeah,

1023
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:10.840
because again what Wild was rated by the FBI for this? Right,

1024
01:01:11.639 --> 01:01:14.639
Fred was also dealing with fra our charges, which is

1025
01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:18.039
what he wanted Bob's help with. And also another thing.

1026
01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:23.360
Fred wanted a Katari royal family member to invest in

1027
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:27.320
his real estate deal. And Bob being ahead of foreign

1028
01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:30.440
affairs or whatever the fuck, oh my god, not this again,

1029
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:35.000
started talking up the Qatar government in like meetings. He's like, actually,

1030
01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:40.159
guitar is not that bad. Never mind their human rights violations. Really,

1031
01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:43.440
forget about that bad Who cares about that? In exchange

1032
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:46.719
for his help, Fred was setting over fancy watches and

1033
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:50.159
then just straight up bars of gold. Wow. And then

1034
01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:53.800
fucking Bob searched how much is a bar of gold worth?

1035
01:01:55.960 --> 01:02:02.440
He's so stupid, Oh my god, incriminating himself. Yes more.

1036
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:05.920
At least it wasn't Adine texting him like, oh my god,

1037
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:09.800
these bars of gold we just got from Uh fuck,

1038
01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:13.159
what's the same? Fred? Are so heavy? That was like

1039
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:14.760
the next thing. That's the only thing that would have

1040
01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:22.000
been worse googling this. So then, unfortunately Bob could not

1041
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:24.639
get rid of all of Fred's charges even though he tried.

1042
01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:28.480
Fred pleaded guilty to federal banking crimes and was facing

1043
01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:30.639
a long time sentence. And what do you do when

1044
01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:33.320
you're facing a long sentence? Try to get away with it.

1045
01:02:33.679 --> 01:02:35.519
You try to get a deal. There's not getting away

1046
01:02:35.559 --> 01:02:38.280
with it anymore. To work out a deal, okay, And

1047
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:40.320
how do you work out a deal by snitching?

1048
01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:41.199
Yes?

1049
01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:49.119
Okay, you really there? I did. Yeah, I'm waiting for

1050
01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:57.000
you to say it. You're like more crimes. No, Fred folded,

1051
01:02:57.079 --> 01:03:02.079
he snitched, and Bob and eighteen had no idea that

1052
01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:05.400
like at this time, Fred was giving out the deets.

1053
01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:08.280
They were on a vacation, international vacation. Of course, they

1054
01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:11.480
were of course, probably the Dominican Republic from a free

1055
01:03:11.480 --> 01:03:15.079
flight from Solomat. I don't know, that's not a fact,

1056
01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:17.880
that's just they were on a vacation though. So while

1057
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:20.719
they were out, their home was raided by the FBI

1058
01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:26.840
and the FBI went through everything. They see thirteen gold bars,

1059
01:03:26.880 --> 01:03:31.000
not the gold bars, thirteen of them. And they also

1060
01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:33.480
took four hundred and eighty thousand dollars that was stashed

1061
01:03:33.480 --> 01:03:37.840
around the house, hidden in places gone. They literally all

1062
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:42.280
try to hide their no crimes at all. No, the

1063
01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:45.880
FBI also broke down doors that they could have just opened,

1064
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:47.800
horsated and you know what when they do that shit,

1065
01:03:48.039 --> 01:03:49.800
you you had to pay for it. They don't like

1066
01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:53.320
reimburse their damages. Yeah, even if they get the wrong house.

1067
01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:56.360
Well obviously they kill people on wrong houses too, of

1068
01:03:56.400 --> 01:04:00.159
course at hand. Yeah, it really is. In no way

1069
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:02.360
are we on the FBI side about this? You know,

1070
01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:04.639
I think that if Bob was just helping his friends,

1071
01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:07.639
I think, without interfering the governments, I think, now just

1072
01:04:07.679 --> 01:04:11.440
getting out of me find with that because they're wasting online. Yeah, no,

1073
01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:15.440
of course he's a public. Yeah, Bob and Nadine got

1074
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:18.199
home to this mess and they were mad. They're like,

1075
01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:21.159
where's my goal, why is my door? Where are my

1076
01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:26.519
thirteen gold bars? Oh my god? And so not long

1077
01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:31.039
after this raid, Bob, Nadine, while and Hoseitiba were all subpoena.

1078
01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:36.360
The FBI was especially interested in the Mercedes that Nadine had,

1079
01:04:36.840 --> 01:04:39.519
and so to look less suspicious, they started paying for

1080
01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:43.079
this car for themselves because again was making those payments right.

1081
01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:46.679
Then Bob and Nadine make a new plan. They decided

1082
01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:49.000
to make everything look like it was a loone. So

1083
01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:51.039
they made a payment to Whyale and they wrote to

1084
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:54.599
litiquate liquidate. Wow, we can't read to liquidate the loan.

1085
01:04:55.519 --> 01:04:57.599
But again, there was no loan. This was all gifted

1086
01:04:57.639 --> 01:05:02.639
to them, public officials, all getting an insane amount of

1087
01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:06.960
money from people to make things happen for those people.

1088
01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:12.280
So they do this together and they seem like united front.

1089
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:14.239
But Bob was like, now, no, no, I'm going to

1090
01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:18.360
pretend I know nothing about this and blame my wife. Bob, Bob,

1091
01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:24.440
come on today's slogan Bob. So yeah, that was his

1092
01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:30.960
next move, pretend I know nothing, blame my wife. So

1093
01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:34.760
on September twenty third, twenty twenty three, Bob was indicted

1094
01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:38.440
on federal corruption charges for agent providing sensitive information to

1095
01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:41.719
the government of Egypt. Right after the charges, he was

1096
01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:44.679
like radio silent, nobody heard from him. Then two days

1097
01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:46.840
later he gave a speech. In the speech, He's like

1098
01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:49.920
I'm not resigning from the Senate. I'm innocent. I've always

1099
01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:54.800
held a guitar accountable for the humans rights by violations.

1100
01:05:55.079 --> 01:05:58.360
And then in the speech, he tried to explain the

1101
01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:01.159
giant stock pile of cash so the FBI took how

1102
01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:04.719
do you explain that? Would you possibly say? I'll tell you,

1103
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:08.400
he said, for years, for thirty years, I've been taking

1104
01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:11.599
out one thousand dollars of my savings and putting it

1105
01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:14.840
in different places in my house as an emergency stash

1106
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:19.239
because of the history of confiscation my family face in Cuba.

1107
01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:25.320
Damn blaming his immigrant trauma on this. Yeah, not only that,

1108
01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:27.760
but like you know, Cubans, thieves were taken from them,

1109
01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:30.199
the people, the rich Cubans that fled, and so he

1110
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:35.400
was like, because of that trauma, I need to hide money. Wow.

1111
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:40.280
That speech also reminds me of that episode of Office

1112
01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:44.679
where they had to do a recall because of the

1113
01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:49.079
animals that are printed on the paper having sex. And

1114
01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:52.480
then Michael like, no one, no one in the local

1115
01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:54.119
media is making a big deal about it, and he's

1116
01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:55.639
the one making a big deal about it. And then

1117
01:06:55.639 --> 01:06:57.280
he makes that video about how he's not going to

1118
01:06:57.360 --> 01:07:02.440
reside that's what it is. And then Bomb got into

1119
01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:06.960
his office told his assistant to the regional manager to

1120
01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:13.159
record him. I will not resign. But this time his

1121
01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:15.760
excuses were not working. Nobody was on his side. I

1122
01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:19.360
mean it's like a like a this is maybe the

1123
01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:22.320
first time they believe you, but now it's like, come on, man,

1124
01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:24.880
this is a pattern. At this point, We're going to

1125
01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:29.199
excuse fraud once but the second time yeah no, yeah,

1126
01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:32.639
no way, yeah no. Two weeks after this speech of

1127
01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:38.280
his and the indictments whatever Nadine was, this came out

1128
01:07:38.280 --> 01:07:42.119
to light. Nadine was now facing or people were questioning

1129
01:07:42.159 --> 01:07:45.159
what happened. So in twenty eighteen, Nadine hit a forty

1130
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:47.960
nine year old man with her car and killed him. Okay,

1131
01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:50.440
so she did this before, and then now that this

1132
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:54.320
was coming to light, Yeah, this like hit the news

1133
01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:57.920
again or people were like, yes, it wasn't published, oh yeah,

1134
01:07:58.079 --> 01:08:00.559
because somehow she faced no consequences when happened in two

1135
01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:05.039
eight somehow, somehow who I don't know. So on the

1136
01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:06.679
night of the accident, she said the man came out

1137
01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:08.719
of nowhere, and then she refused to give her phone

1138
01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:11.639
up to police. She had a record of texting and

1139
01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:14.840
driving a few times, and so they were like, we

1140
01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:16.520
need to make sure you weren't texting when this happened,

1141
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:19.479
and she refused to give her phone up. Then someone

1142
01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:22.039
claiming to be a retired cop stepped in and was like,

1143
01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:25.439
Nadine's not being charged with this, blah blah blah. The

1144
01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:29.439
man that she hit had alcohol and marijuana in his

1145
01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:34.560
system and had been jaywalking, and so this investigation didn't

1146
01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:39.239
go any further than this, and basically he was blamed

1147
01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:45.960
for Nadine hitting him down causing his death. So now

1148
01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:49.079
in twenty twenty three, the current Attorney General from New

1149
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:52.279
Jersey started looking into the situation, and it's alleged that

1150
01:08:52.319 --> 01:08:57.760
Bobman and this intervened with the prosecution and like blocked

1151
01:08:57.760 --> 01:09:01.000
their investigation into this, and the charges were just dropped. Wow,

1152
01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:03.399
So that's how Nadine got away with it. And then

1153
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:06.840
this car that she was in this accident is the

1154
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:11.720
one they replaced the Mercedes with. Oh oh sorry, I'm

1155
01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:13.960
because I'm saying this is how they got the Mercedes

1156
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:18.279
because they were replacing the car that she hit someone with. Yeah, wow,

1157
01:09:18.279 --> 01:09:20.920
And it's just not a good look. No, And then

1158
01:09:21.039 --> 01:09:24.560
it just got worse, they both got another charge conspiring

1159
01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:28.840
to act as a foreign agent on Egypt's behalf. So

1160
01:09:29.359 --> 01:09:32.239
Bob released another statement. He's like, I've always been loyal

1161
01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:35.399
to the US. I've never colluded with the foreign government.

1162
01:09:37.880 --> 01:09:44.439
And if I did, go, no, I don't keep This time,

1163
01:09:44.520 --> 01:09:48.560
the Democrats were not on his side like the first time. Yeah,

1164
01:09:48.640 --> 01:09:52.680
there was senators calling for his resignation. The first to

1165
01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:55.319
do this was bum ass fucking John Fetterman. I'm sorry,

1166
01:09:55.359 --> 01:09:58.079
I hate Yeah, you don't know, I don't think so

1167
01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:01.079
he gets so much money from APAC and if you know,

1168
01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:05.640
you know, yeah, and he's he doubled down on his

1169
01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:10.039
dance on this. He even came out during all that

1170
01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:15.199
with a flag tied around. Oh oh, I saw that

1171
01:10:15.479 --> 01:10:18.279
video or picture. I didn't realize And let me backtrack

1172
01:10:18.319 --> 01:10:22.159
a little bit. He came up as this very progressive

1173
01:10:22.319 --> 01:10:25.960
senator quote unquote that was like, like, oh, they voted

1174
01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:28.439
for hit him in because he was like different and

1175
01:10:28.520 --> 01:10:31.279
he didn't wear suits. He always wears hoodies and like

1176
01:10:31.319 --> 01:10:35.239
that's a red flag first, yeah, and I say that

1177
01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:39.640
as someone always in a hoodie. But he also was

1178
01:10:39.640 --> 01:10:43.199
talking about immigrants and his immigrant wife filed for divorce.

1179
01:10:43.399 --> 01:10:46.800
Oh wow, that's how you do it. That's how you

1180
01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:49.000
do it. So that's who John Futterman is. And he

1181
01:10:49.159 --> 01:10:52.640
was the one calling for Bob Minna's resignation, and he

1182
01:10:52.760 --> 01:10:59.079
bought a cameo from disgraced former Congressman George Santos. And

1183
01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:03.199
go ahead and click that link. Oh my god. Okay,

1184
01:11:03.199 --> 01:11:07.279
So who bought a cameo? John Buttter Metriman bought a cameo?

1185
01:11:08.079 --> 01:11:11.680
Got cha? Yes, okay, this situation. Yeah, and I'm gonna

1186
01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:14.199
play it as well. One two three play.

1187
01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:18.000
Hey Bobby, Uh look, I don't think I need to

1188
01:11:18.039 --> 01:11:20.640
tell you, but these people that want to make you

1189
01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:23.520
get in trouble and want to kick you out and

1190
01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:26.640
make you run away, you make him put up or

1191
01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:28.279
shut up. You stand your grounds.

1192
01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:32.640
So yeah, wow, Yeah, he bought a cameo from George Santos,

1193
01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:37.800
another prison will versed in scams. Oh yeah, a fellow Latino. Right,

1194
01:11:37.880 --> 01:11:44.119
he's a Brazilian. Yes, yeah, all right. Even his Bob's

1195
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:47.560
former mentee, Corey Booker, who defended him so hard the

1196
01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:51.119
first time, started calling for his resignation, and he was like,

1197
01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:53.680
it breaks my heart to do this, but like, you

1198
01:11:53.800 --> 01:11:57.159
have to resign and he was like no, no, they're

1199
01:11:57.199 --> 01:12:00.079
trying to they're trying to kick me out because'm you

1200
01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:05.000
know math, you don't pull card, please do not, but

1201
01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:09.520
he did. Wow, And so then Jose pled guilty, agreed

1202
01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:14.199
to testify against his co co conspirators, so Bob Nadine

1203
01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:19.520
while and Nadine and Bob got hey with another charge,

1204
01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:24.159
obstruction of justice. They were like not playing with him.

1205
01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:27.159
So this was because they tried to make the bribe

1206
01:12:27.159 --> 01:12:31.279
money seem like loans. The fact, yeah, they were in

1207
01:12:31.319 --> 01:12:37.119
fact obstructing justice. Yeah, yeah, they really were. And if

1208
01:12:37.159 --> 01:12:39.560
things didn't seem like they could get any worse, they did.

1209
01:12:40.079 --> 01:12:42.880
Lawyers started trying to request the delay Nadine's trial because

1210
01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:44.840
she was sick, and this was actually true. She was

1211
01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:47.760
taken us with breast cancer. She's still currently finding breast cancer.

1212
01:12:48.039 --> 01:12:52.800
Her trial was postponed indefinitely. So yeah, the judge agreed. Also,

1213
01:12:52.880 --> 01:12:55.279
during this time, they told Bob like, hey, if you testify,

1214
01:12:55.439 --> 01:12:59.159
you would violate your spousal privilege by revealing incuminating information

1215
01:12:59.319 --> 01:13:01.840
toward Nadine. And Bob was like I don't give a fuck.

1216
01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:06.439
He's like walk, I will say whatever, And so he's

1217
01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:11.239
not right or I he's looking at number one. Yeah,

1218
01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:16.359
not a wife guy anymore. At the trial, his strategy

1219
01:13:16.960 --> 01:13:18.960
was to say that he had no idea what his

1220
01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:22.520
wife was up to, even claiming that the gold bars

1221
01:13:22.520 --> 01:13:24.720
were all hers. That's so stupid because you're the one

1222
01:13:24.760 --> 01:13:28.640
at the Senate committee and speaking with the foreign whatever,

1223
01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:32.840
Like that's you, that's not her. Yeah. Yeah, And it

1224
01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:36.119
was like a whole media circus, and Nadine's friends were like,

1225
01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:37.920
we're going to defend her. So they spoke with the

1226
01:13:37.960 --> 01:13:40.359
New York Posts and they were like, Nadine's not a

1227
01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:44.000
criminal mastermind, She's just a clean a girlfriend. But then

1228
01:13:44.039 --> 01:13:45.720
they said that they were the ones to encourage her

1229
01:13:45.720 --> 01:13:49.760
to marry bomb Bob because she needed health care. So

1230
01:13:49.800 --> 01:13:52.039
this doesn't make her her look good, it's making her

1231
01:13:52.079 --> 01:13:55.520
look like a scammer. Yeah. So I don't know what

1232
01:13:55.560 --> 01:13:57.760
they were trying there, but they tried their best. Is

1233
01:13:57.800 --> 01:14:00.720
that what they did. Maybe they're not ever either, I

1234
01:14:00.760 --> 01:14:03.880
don't know. Two weeks into the trial, joseibe Is said

1235
01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:07.399
to testify he's like the star witness because he's the

1236
01:14:07.399 --> 01:14:09.760
one flipping on them, right. Nadine wasn't at the trial

1237
01:14:09.800 --> 01:14:12.439
because again, she's sick. It's postponed for her. Everyone else

1238
01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:15.680
is there that comes clean. He tells the court that

1239
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:18.479
why I told him Bob would help him avoid federal

1240
01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:20.920
charges for a quarter of a million dollars. So he

1241
01:14:21.079 --> 01:14:25.800
was testifying for the prosecution. Yeah, okay, yeah against Yes,

1242
01:14:26.039 --> 01:14:30.640
got everyone else. So he testified while was the one

1243
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:32.960
who connected him with Bob, because Bob would help him

1244
01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:35.199
avoid federal charges, but Bob would only do it for

1245
01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:38.520
a quarter of a million dollars. He also talks about

1246
01:14:38.600 --> 01:14:42.479
the twenty nineteen meeting in Bob's house where he or

1247
01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:44.119
Bob was like, well, let me see what I can

1248
01:14:44.159 --> 01:14:46.479
do when I meet with the attorney general. Give me

1249
01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:50.520
the list of people that you need me to ask

1250
01:14:50.560 --> 01:14:53.000
about for the attorney general. This is the meeting they

1251
01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:58.319
had at the house. And this testimony directly contradicts the

1252
01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:02.079
defensive strategy of Bob had no idea, there's no meeting

1253
01:15:02.680 --> 01:15:05.560
was at his house. He was the prison at the meeting.

1254
01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:08.880
And during the meeting, apparently he summoned Nadine with a bell.

1255
01:15:09.520 --> 01:15:12.840
He rang a bell, likedin come bring me this paper past.

1256
01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:16.960
Different picture of the dynamics than Bob was trying to

1257
01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:22.800
paint exactly yeah, and also weird. Yes, tattoo. They're not

1258
01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:27.920
beating the freak allegation. They're really not, No, because like

1259
01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:32.000
you know that Bell was ready like and there. I

1260
01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:35.600
don't like it. No, no, So yeah, it just goes

1261
01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:37.520
against like, oh, I have no idea what my wife

1262
01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:40.159
is doing. Yeah, And this was just the first blow

1263
01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:44.880
to Bob's legal strategy. Then his staffer started testifying. Sarah

1264
01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:47.960
Arkin worked for him as a foreign policy advisor. She

1265
01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:51.199
was like, he's been acting so weird for years now.

1266
01:15:51.800 --> 01:15:55.159
He was like, toned down on your public criticism of Egypt,

1267
01:15:55.439 --> 01:15:59.079
when before he would never have said that she wanted

1268
01:15:59.119 --> 01:16:02.399
to write this public letter about like how human rights

1269
01:16:02.439 --> 01:16:05.439
and blah blah blah's they actually don't say anything about

1270
01:16:05.439 --> 01:16:08.560
Egypt anymore, Okay, just keeping the downlow, like we actually

1271
01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:11.720
we love EACHYPT now. Yeah, he literally said, keep this private.

1272
01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:14.560
We're trying to fix these communications with them in private.

1273
01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:16.920
We don't want to do these letters calling them out anymore.

1274
01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:20.760
So yeah. And then in twenty twenty one, she was

1275
01:16:20.800 --> 01:16:23.880
helping coordinate a trip from bomb to Egypt and Qatar,

1276
01:16:24.479 --> 01:16:28.520
and he Bob came to this person that was testifying

1277
01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:32.640
that he was like go through Abdolmajid for my trip,

1278
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:37.760
and Abdolmajid was a code name for in another Egyptian

1279
01:16:38.239 --> 01:16:43.960
intelligence officer. So he was speaking with two Egyptian intelligence officers. Wow.

1280
01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:48.720
And he told his staffer, like, contact this person instead

1281
01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:53.600
a person they've never contacted before. They have like official

1282
01:16:54.079 --> 01:16:58.119
like avenues tubok channels, yeah, channels, And this was like

1283
01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:01.520
out of the normal. And she's like, who's abdomage? Yeah,

1284
01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:05.680
And and turns out it was an intelligence officer who

1285
01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:11.199
was apparently BFS with Nadine. Nadine, what the hell? Where

1286
01:17:11.199 --> 01:17:14.520
is she meeting these people? I don't know through while

1287
01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:18.319
like Canadian's text with Abdal Yes, what's Abdalmajid? So these

1288
01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:20.960
were revealed in the court. Okay. Text included what Nelson

1289
01:17:21.119 --> 01:17:23.479
should I use when I go to DC? What about

1290
01:17:23.479 --> 01:17:24.640
writing camels in Egypt?

1291
01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:24.920
Oh?

1292
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:27.520
Also what about the murder of the journalists in Egypt?

1293
01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:27.920
No?

1294
01:17:28.840 --> 01:17:36.880
Oh my god? Yeah? Uh? Incriminating, yeah, to say the least. Yeah. Yeah.

1295
01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:39.119
And there would be just more and more hard hitting

1296
01:17:39.119 --> 01:17:42.079
testimony against Bob, as well as testimony in his favor.

1297
01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:44.600
His sisters tried their best to defend him, as I

1298
01:17:44.600 --> 01:17:47.239
guess any sister would, I don't know. They were like,

1299
01:17:47.319 --> 01:17:49.600
he just keeps his money like that because he's Cuban.

1300
01:17:49.680 --> 01:17:51.880
It's a Cuban thing. Our parents kept money in the

1301
01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:55.640
grandfather clock in Cuba. It's a Cuban thing. You would

1302
01:17:55.800 --> 01:18:00.520
understand because you're not Cuban. Yeah, not as true. Defense

1303
01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:06.920
didn't work, no human defense, Oh my god. No. After

1304
01:18:07.039 --> 01:18:11.119
three days of deliberation, Bob was found guilty of all charges. Wow,

1305
01:18:11.319 --> 01:18:14.399
and he's making history. This made him the first city

1306
01:18:14.479 --> 01:18:17.600
member of Congress to be convicted convicted of conspiracy to

1307
01:18:17.680 --> 01:18:21.000
act as a foreign agent. Wow. You know what, he

1308
01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:25.439
just keeps going with these trailbazing moments. He didn't stop,

1309
01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:28.680
right icon' the first what a leader of Latinos to

1310
01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:33.800
hold that one position breaking record? First? Yeah exactly. So yeah,

1311
01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:37.680
making history as a Latino and a criminal. Wow, and

1312
01:18:37.760 --> 01:18:40.840
all of this is happening, but like nobody is even

1313
01:18:40.920 --> 01:18:43.840
realizing because the US and isn't a fucking mess at

1314
01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:46.840
this time. Wait, so okay, because I read twenty twenty

1315
01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:52.239
twenty twenty one, when was he finally found guilty. This

1316
01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:55.159
was twenty twenty four when it was found guilty. But

1317
01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:59.279
this trial was overshadowed because at the same time, Biden

1318
01:18:59.479 --> 01:19:03.760
had just had the presidential debate with uh Trump, and

1319
01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:05.960
you know the one, the one where people were like,

1320
01:19:06.039 --> 01:19:08.720
oh my god, he's not there. He's he's so slow,

1321
01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:11.399
something's wrong with him. He needs to resign. Yeah, this

1322
01:19:11.520 --> 01:19:15.239
was happening. And then like just a few days after

1323
01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:17.840
this is when Trump supposedly got shot in the ear.

1324
01:19:18.399 --> 01:19:20.920
It really happened there. I was there. I was labor

1325
01:19:20.960 --> 01:19:24.760
in Denver. Ye, yes, I remember tis of our lives

1326
01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:28.680
and with our best deeds. Yes, with a shoutout Aiden

1327
01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:33.119
and lady. So all this was happening at the same time.

1328
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:36.159
I didn't even know this happened. Yeah, the same because

1329
01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:39.159
I was busy, like, oh, you're just dominating the news

1330
01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:43.600
it was. And so yeah, he was able to like

1331
01:19:43.800 --> 01:19:47.479
kind of go unnotice and also crazy. But even with

1332
01:19:47.560 --> 01:19:50.479
this conviction, he would have been allowed to finish his

1333
01:19:50.600 --> 01:19:53.479
term in the Senate and then go to jail. Really

1334
01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:57.319
well yeah, I mean look at Trump. So not a surprise.

1335
01:19:58.079 --> 01:20:00.239
And so he Bob was like, I'm not going to

1336
01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:05.119
resign again. Gray Michael Scott, Okay, Yeah, and even though

1337
01:20:05.119 --> 01:20:07.079
he didn't want to, he was eventually forced. There was

1338
01:20:07.159 --> 01:20:11.560
really too many people calling for his resignation, and so

1339
01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:14.560
he did this. August twenty twenty four, he officially resigned.

1340
01:20:14.880 --> 01:20:18.000
And then there was another trial that was yet to happen.

1341
01:20:18.680 --> 01:20:22.760
That did happen January twenty twenty five. In this trial,

1342
01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:25.800
he was sentenced. I think this is the trial to

1343
01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:28.600
see what sentence he will receive. He was found guilty,

1344
01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:31.880
and then there was a second trial for his setence. Okay,

1345
01:20:32.039 --> 01:20:34.920
and so that was said to happen January twenty twenty five.

1346
01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:39.560
And trial, Yeah, on January twenty ninth, he was sentenced

1347
01:20:39.560 --> 01:20:42.319
to eleven years in prison. Oh okay, So he was

1348
01:20:42.399 --> 01:20:47.039
convicted and then sentence he was sentenced, Okay, not that

1349
01:20:47.119 --> 01:20:49.359
long ago, you know, just a couple of weeks ago.

1350
01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:49.720
Yah.

1351
01:20:50.159 --> 01:20:54.079
Recording Wow, and again overshadowed because the US is a

1352
01:20:54.079 --> 01:20:58.159
fucking mess, because we are in the fight of our lives.

1353
01:20:58.439 --> 01:21:01.640
Yeah yeah, and so yeah, yeah, he is I guess

1354
01:21:01.640 --> 01:21:04.600
in prison. Now did you say how long? Eleven years?

1355
01:21:04.680 --> 01:21:08.560
Eleven years? Okay, wow, Bob. And that was the case

1356
01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:17.199
of Bob Menndez. That's interesting. Yeah, I'm like, I hope

1357
01:21:17.199 --> 01:21:20.680
it was. I hope it wasn't. Too well. We can

1358
01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:23.600
get some feedback, like do you guys like scams? But

1359
01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:27.520
just saying nicely, because Christina is very sensitive, I will cry.

1360
01:21:27.920 --> 01:21:31.239
You can say scams aren't really my thing, or like

1361
01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:34.319
I love a good scam, tell me or you know, yeah,

1362
01:21:34.359 --> 01:21:36.960
but I will say when it comes to scams and fraud.

1363
01:21:37.039 --> 01:21:39.039
This was on the kind of side of like, Bob,

1364
01:21:39.079 --> 01:21:42.520
you're just dumb. Bob is dumb, and I don't want

1365
01:21:42.520 --> 01:21:44.840
to take away like he made decisions, he made choices,

1366
01:21:44.880 --> 01:21:47.279
but I think a lot of it is like he

1367
01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:51.159
he was saying, out with the wrong crowd. He's like

1368
01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:53.640
the influence, and he's dumb, and he loves like a

1369
01:21:53.640 --> 01:21:57.159
good like a you know, like a friend and a partner.

1370
01:21:57.680 --> 01:22:01.520
Really steer him the wrong way. Yeah, what's that saying

1371
01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:06.840
that our black parents always said all the time, San migos,

1372
01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:11.000
it is, Yes, it is some shit like that. Yeah,

1373
01:22:11.119 --> 01:22:14.000
show me who your friends are, and that shows me

1374
01:22:14.039 --> 01:22:18.199
who you are. Yeah, and these are bob friends. Yeah,

1375
01:22:18.319 --> 01:22:20.720
this is Bob, that's who. Yeah, Bob just wanted to

1376
01:22:20.760 --> 01:22:24.119
be rich and he didn't care he did it. Yeah,

1377
01:22:24.159 --> 01:22:27.680
and now he's in prison for eleven years. But yeah,

1378
01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:29.680
I mean, yeah, let us know, I like, just no,

1379
01:22:29.680 --> 01:22:34.760
no more scams. This fucking sucks, but not like that. Yeah,

1380
01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:36.840
but yeah, that was that was the case. It was

1381
01:22:36.840 --> 01:22:39.359
a long one. I think the moral of the story

1382
01:22:39.439 --> 01:22:42.039
for the rest of us that are not Bob is like,

1383
01:22:42.439 --> 01:22:45.359
we shouldn't put up people on a pedestal just because

1384
01:22:45.359 --> 01:22:48.359
of the first Latino to do something pedestal. It is

1385
01:22:48.359 --> 01:22:50.960
said that weird. But yeah, oh, how do I say it?

1386
01:22:51.079 --> 01:22:52.720
I don't know. It's like the emphasis is like on

1387
01:22:52.760 --> 01:22:56.279
the wrong part of the word pedestal, pedestal. I don't

1388
01:22:56.279 --> 01:23:00.640
even know anymore pedestal. What's the right way pedestal? I

1389
01:23:00.640 --> 01:23:02.880
don't know. However you said it the first time's wrong,

1390
01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:06.159
I feel like, but now I'm not sure anymore. How

1391
01:23:06.239 --> 01:23:12.720
it sounds. It's weird, yeah, pedestal, Yeah, okay, whatever, whatever,

1392
01:23:12.840 --> 01:23:15.079
it doesn't matter. You would have said. But yes, that

1393
01:23:15.239 --> 01:23:19.920
is the lesson, especially a politician, you know. Oh my god.

1394
01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:24.199
And this goes out to all you Trump lovers. I

1395
01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:26.279
don't think we have any I feel like we shouldn't

1396
01:23:26.319 --> 01:23:29.239
have any. I don't write we really shouldn't after all

1397
01:23:29.239 --> 01:23:32.359
the shit we've talked. I don't think better if people,

1398
01:23:34.359 --> 01:23:37.760
and if you do, please don't leave us. A one

1399
01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:40.399
star review on your way out. It really floors me

1400
01:23:40.600 --> 01:23:43.439
the way that they like you will never catch me

1401
01:23:43.560 --> 01:23:47.640
idolizing a politician nor a celebrity in this manner, like

1402
01:23:47.720 --> 01:23:52.319
this is just wild behavior, like fanatical, literally crazy. Sometimes

1403
01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:55.640
that reminds me, Actually, I don't know if you had

1404
01:23:55.680 --> 01:23:57.840
more to say. Nope, that was the case, and I

1405
01:23:57.880 --> 01:24:00.960
said the moral of the story to me, right, yeah,

1406
01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:05.399
that was it. Okay, so that reminds me. I and

1407
01:24:05.439 --> 01:24:07.800
I guess there'll be my spooky recommendations are really spooky.

1408
01:24:07.920 --> 01:24:12.000
It's more like should we just jell into speaking recommendations. Yes, yeah, right,

1409
01:24:12.199 --> 01:24:17.159
So my recommendation is Defectors by pla Amos, and Christina

1410
01:24:17.279 --> 01:24:19.399
just started reading it, so we're also doing like an

1411
01:24:19.399 --> 01:24:22.720
informal last minute because we both happened to be reading it.

1412
01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:26.600
Little read along over, I said this unknown, So I'm

1413
01:24:26.600 --> 01:24:28.159
not sure what that's gonna look like. Yeah, but the

1414
01:24:28.159 --> 01:24:31.880
Patreon is free to join that part of it. And

1415
01:24:32.119 --> 01:24:33.680
what do you think. I guess like when we're done,

1416
01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:35.680
we'll just record a video and maybe people can join

1417
01:24:35.800 --> 01:24:37.880
like something like that. I'm not sure. Yeah, that would

1418
01:24:37.880 --> 01:24:41.800
look like we can, yeah, just do it live over

1419
01:24:41.960 --> 01:24:45.159
on Patreon, but we'll make it so that all members

1420
01:24:45.239 --> 01:24:48.279
can join, including free members, or should we do like

1421
01:24:48.279 --> 01:24:51.560
a zoom. I don't know. I don't know. Well, we'll

1422
01:24:51.600 --> 01:24:54.279
see what we do. But we're going to read it along

1423
01:24:54.239 --> 01:24:56.199
and Christina's still reading it, so you still have time

1424
01:24:56.239 --> 01:24:59.520
to join and yes, oh and like a couple of

1425
01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:01.880
our patren members on his story hasn't known. We're like, oh, yes,

1426
01:25:01.920 --> 01:25:05.960
we're doing this. Yeah I didn't see now. Yeah, so exciting.

1427
01:25:06.439 --> 01:25:09.640
But I already finished it because I couldn't stop listening

1428
01:25:09.640 --> 01:25:12.279
to it. I was obsessed and I'm still thinking about it.

1429
01:25:12.319 --> 01:25:14.760
And it's early in the year, so I don't know

1430
01:25:14.760 --> 01:25:16.960
if it will be my favorite nonfiction book of the year,

1431
01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:19.319
but I think it will be. But anyway, there's this

1432
01:25:19.399 --> 01:25:23.960
part where Paula talks about a man, a Mexican man,

1433
01:25:24.119 --> 01:25:29.560
who had a Bugele themed birthday party which included cupcakes

1434
01:25:29.640 --> 01:25:33.000
with B's discussing face on them. And he did this

1435
01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:35.760
more than one year in a row. So I'm just like,

1436
01:25:35.840 --> 01:25:38.359
this is outrageous behavior. And that's what those you know,

1437
01:25:38.680 --> 01:25:42.119
fanatical Trump fans remind me of, like, like have you

1438
01:25:42.159 --> 01:25:46.760
seen that Trump themed wedding? No, but discussing Yeah, Oh

1439
01:25:46.800 --> 01:25:48.920
my god. I just couldn't believe it, Like the way

1440
01:25:48.960 --> 01:25:53.000
people are that's horrifying. That is the truth. That's that's

1441
01:25:53.039 --> 01:25:55.439
that's no, No, I can't. I don't even have words.

1442
01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:59.119
I don't even have clearent words. I would rather die

1443
01:25:59.479 --> 01:26:04.359
than have a theme like that on any occasion. Yeah,

1444
01:26:04.399 --> 01:26:07.000
and this goes for any politician. You will never catch me,

1445
01:26:07.760 --> 01:26:10.279
can you imagine? Oh, that's just like wild behavior, Like

1446
01:26:10.319 --> 01:26:13.079
we have to fight politicians. They're not usually on our side,

1447
01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:16.319
you know what I mean, not usually ever, So no,

1448
01:26:16.760 --> 01:26:20.359
they're your enemy. Actually, so it's while to be acting

1449
01:26:20.439 --> 01:26:23.720
like that. I can't wait to finish the factors. I

1450
01:26:23.720 --> 01:26:27.600
can't wait time actually, like I need to talk about it. Yeah,

1451
01:26:27.720 --> 01:26:34.199
I know. I Oh, I'm still on page ten. I

1452
01:26:34.279 --> 01:26:38.239
need to finish. Oh, the Parable of the Stower, right,

1453
01:26:38.359 --> 01:26:41.560
I need to start first, the second one. I'm halfway

1454
01:26:41.600 --> 01:26:44.840
through it, so I'm almost stay nice. Yeah, it's slower

1455
01:26:44.880 --> 01:26:48.279
because I'm reading it and listening to the audiobook instead

1456
01:26:48.279 --> 01:26:50.359
of just the audiobook. I've never done that with the book.

1457
01:26:50.479 --> 01:26:52.239
It's because sometimes I miss things and I go back

1458
01:26:52.600 --> 01:26:54.239
on the page and I'm like, oh, yes, this is

1459
01:26:54.279 --> 01:26:55.880
where I was, and I read that section. Then I

1460
01:26:55.920 --> 01:26:58.199
go back to the audiobook unless I miss something counter

1461
01:26:58.239 --> 01:27:00.359
protect them. But okay, so it's because sometimes I just

1462
01:27:00.359 --> 01:27:03.119
don't retain things. Well that's how I went to audiobooks too,

1463
01:27:03.159 --> 01:27:05.560
but with the factors, I literally like would pause and

1464
01:27:05.600 --> 01:27:08.600
write down a thought really quick mmmm, yes, okay, or

1465
01:27:08.840 --> 01:27:10.680
really share my thought with you, and that helps me

1466
01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:14.119
retain it a little bit. Yes, no, same, okay, So

1467
01:27:14.159 --> 01:27:17.760
that's your recommendation. Um, yeah, because I haven't really done

1468
01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:21.479
much reading other than that, okay, and especially because last

1469
01:27:21.479 --> 01:27:24.560
time I gave my like ten recommendations, all the ones,

1470
01:27:24.720 --> 01:27:27.199
you should save them. That's what I was doing for

1471
01:27:27.239 --> 01:27:29.680
a while, but that day I couldn't stop talking. So

1472
01:27:30.760 --> 01:27:33.520
that's true. Yeah, that's yeah. Usually I do space them out. Yeah,

1473
01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:37.920
oh wait, I did so I read Kindred? Did I

1474
01:27:37.920 --> 01:27:41.199
I already recommended that one, didn't I the book? Oh

1475
01:27:41.239 --> 01:27:44.199
maybe I don't remember. Yeah, I only did Parable of

1476
01:27:44.199 --> 01:27:46.600
the Swer No. I listened to Kindred like immediately after

1477
01:27:46.600 --> 01:27:49.479
that because I was I need more Octavia and my

1478
01:27:50.760 --> 01:27:53.039
library didn't have the second of the parable of the

1479
01:27:53.079 --> 01:27:56.800
sore Parable of the Talents I think it's called, Yes,

1480
01:27:56.880 --> 01:27:59.000
but they did have Kindred, and oh my god, Kindred

1481
01:27:59.159 --> 01:28:02.880
was amazing. Actually don't it is, So that's what I

1482
01:28:02.960 --> 01:28:05.199
just said. You didn't talk about it. Oh you did

1483
01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:07.399
say that, Okay, well I didn't hear you because I

1484
01:28:07.439 --> 01:28:12.399
was talking anything. Yes, anyway, it was so good. I

1485
01:28:12.479 --> 01:28:14.439
rated it five out of five. I really really. I

1486
01:28:14.479 --> 01:28:16.079
finished it like in two day because I couldn't stop

1487
01:28:16.119 --> 01:28:18.840
listening to it. Well, a little longer, but still. And

1488
01:28:18.960 --> 01:28:21.560
I just love, like, like I wish I knew what

1489
01:28:21.640 --> 01:28:24.199
my ancestors were doing, you know, back in the day,

1490
01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:30.359
and I be just because inherently of our Mexican Taldurian

1491
01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:34.399
heritage whatever, like I know that we have some colonizers

1492
01:28:34.399 --> 01:28:37.439
in our family, and so I feel like in that sense,

1493
01:28:37.479 --> 01:28:41.199
it is like very relatable in Kindred because her one

1494
01:28:41.199 --> 01:28:45.239
of her ancestors was in He was an enslaver and

1495
01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:50.520
he basically raped her ancestor and that's how you know,

1496
01:28:50.640 --> 01:28:53.199
her family came to be. And I'm like, oh my god,

1497
01:28:53.279 --> 01:28:56.920
Like she has such hope for him that he was

1498
01:28:56.960 --> 01:28:59.760
going to change his ways and actually be a good person,

1499
01:28:59.840 --> 01:29:02.560
but doesn't happen because he is a product of his time.

1500
01:29:03.119 --> 01:29:08.159
And I'm like, I wouldn't love to meet my colonizing ancestors,

1501
01:29:08.199 --> 01:29:09.920
but I would like to know what they did and

1502
01:29:09.960 --> 01:29:12.199
who they did it too, you know, just just to know.

1503
01:29:12.479 --> 01:29:14.520
You know, what's so weird to me when people are

1504
01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:16.720
like it's always like people on threads too. Some people

1505
01:29:16.760 --> 01:29:19.920
are just so weird on there. But there's some people

1506
01:29:19.920 --> 01:29:21.720
that are like, you have to like both sides of

1507
01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:25.279
your family. You can't deny the Spanish side. And I'm like, oh, well,

1508
01:29:25.319 --> 01:29:27.359
the thing is that I never really I feel like

1509
01:29:27.359 --> 01:29:30.479
no one in our family has ever idolized other than

1510
01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:34.680
the general like propping up whiteness as in, I don't know,

1511
01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:38.960
calling the one person we aye and like complimenting yeah,

1512
01:29:39.039 --> 01:29:43.159
but buscari and other than that, you know, the general

1513
01:29:43.359 --> 01:29:46.000
stuff like that. I feel like because there's other families

1514
01:29:46.039 --> 01:29:48.359
that they're like, oh, we have a Spaniard ancestor and

1515
01:29:48.439 --> 01:29:51.760
such and such, part like we all have blue eyes.

1516
01:29:51.880 --> 01:29:54.520
We don't have like family like that. And so I

1517
01:29:54.560 --> 01:29:58.680
feel like I've never idolized whatever a Spaniard ancestry might have.

1518
01:29:59.399 --> 01:30:01.520
And I know I know it's going to be less

1519
01:30:01.600 --> 01:30:06.720
than than Mexican or sall During or you know, indigenous ancestry.

1520
01:30:06.720 --> 01:30:09.399
I know that because otherwise I would be taller, I would,

1521
01:30:09.560 --> 01:30:13.319
you know, what I mean, I would have green eyes? Yeah, yeah,

1522
01:30:13.359 --> 01:30:16.000
so so yeah, and I would I can't relate to

1523
01:30:16.079 --> 01:30:18.880
that at all, Like huh, I said, And I would

1524
01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:20.760
talk like this all the time. What do you mean

1525
01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:23.720
like that if I had green eyes? Oh? I was like,

1526
01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:29.039
what do you mean? Yes, yeah, like all creepy and shit.

1527
01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:33.880
So anyway, I liked I like that, And and it reminded

1528
01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:35.640
me too of what other book that I read of

1529
01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:37.960
I was it The Haunting Avalhanda where it has like

1530
01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:41.560
some passages from her ancestors in the in the past.

1531
01:30:41.720 --> 01:30:43.720
Ryan reminded me of that too. So anyway, it was

1532
01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:45.880
just really good. I love a good time travel book.

1533
01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:47.680
But I mean, if it's going to be also about

1534
01:30:47.720 --> 01:30:52.359
like like racial dynamics and and stuff like that, that

1535
01:30:52.600 --> 01:30:57.119
just that much better, you know. Yeah, yeah, okay, and sorry.

1536
01:30:57.239 --> 01:31:00.840
And I watched the not This again. The whole point

1537
01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:02.560
that I brought that up, because I can't remember if

1538
01:31:02.560 --> 01:31:05.119
I talked about her now, is that I MJ told

1539
01:31:05.199 --> 01:31:08.119
us that there's a show on Hulu about Kindred. Oh yeah, yeah,

1540
01:31:08.279 --> 01:31:10.960
did you watch it. I've only watched the first episode

1541
01:31:11.000 --> 01:31:13.760
so far, and it's already no like two, I've watched

1542
01:31:13.800 --> 01:31:16.680
two episodes, I think, and it's already way different than

1543
01:31:16.720 --> 01:31:20.880
the book because in the book, I think they're all

1544
01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:24.079
a little bit older. In the book, actually I remember, Yeah,

1545
01:31:24.439 --> 01:31:26.760
she hadn't been thirties, she's a little older. So in

1546
01:31:26.800 --> 01:31:31.680
the show she's younger, and so is the Kevin her.

1547
01:31:31.880 --> 01:31:34.960
In the book, they're married. In the show, they're not married.

1548
01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:38.479
They literally just met and that starts happening with her.

1549
01:31:39.359 --> 01:31:42.119
So yeah, I feel like, I don't know, I feel

1550
01:31:42.119 --> 01:31:45.079
like they need to have a connection that dynamitic, yeah,

1551
01:31:45.119 --> 01:31:47.640
in order for him to believe, but he sees it

1552
01:31:47.680 --> 01:31:50.479
immediately and he's still from what because you know how

1553
01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:54.800
it starts off with the ending is I don't know,

1554
01:31:54.880 --> 01:31:56.279
there's a better way to explain that.

1555
01:31:56.159 --> 01:31:56.319
But.

1556
01:31:58.399 --> 01:32:00.880
There has to be a word for that. But whatever.

1557
01:32:01.560 --> 01:32:04.840
The book, the opening scene of the book is basically

1558
01:32:04.920 --> 01:32:06.960
what happens at the end. And so in the beginning

1559
01:32:07.000 --> 01:32:10.239
of the book, she's already been time traveling to the past,

1560
01:32:10.720 --> 01:32:14.319
and so then like that happens, and then I think

1561
01:32:14.319 --> 01:32:18.399
it's a time span of months where she's it starts

1562
01:32:18.399 --> 01:32:21.520
and she's time traveling back and forth or whatever. And

1563
01:32:21.600 --> 01:32:23.640
so then after the first time it happens, it's quick

1564
01:32:24.119 --> 01:32:28.439
and Kevin, her husband, thinks that it's not real or

1565
01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:32.000
that she's imagining or dreaming, and then I think she

1566
01:32:32.159 --> 01:32:34.960
travels back in time like two more times until he

1567
01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:37.840
sees it once or two more times. And then in

1568
01:32:38.319 --> 01:32:41.800
the show, in the first episode, she it starts off

1569
01:32:41.800 --> 01:32:44.319
differently and not like actually just start off with a

1570
01:32:44.359 --> 01:32:50.239
similars anyway. But in the show, she meets Kevin at

1571
01:32:50.279 --> 01:32:52.159
a restaurant when she's eating with her aunt and uncle

1572
01:32:52.479 --> 01:32:54.720
and then she needs to write home whatever blah blah

1573
01:32:54.840 --> 01:32:58.279
she and at that point she's already transported back once

1574
01:32:58.359 --> 01:33:01.760
or twice I think, and then he's back. He spends

1575
01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:05.199
the night with her. Then she transports like one time,

1576
01:33:06.199 --> 01:33:09.479
and the neighbors come because she's screaming because she's scared.

1577
01:33:09.520 --> 01:33:11.359
I forgot what happens, but anyway, it happens again and

1578
01:33:11.399 --> 01:33:13.680
he literally sees her disappear in front of him. So

1579
01:33:13.680 --> 01:33:16.239
that's why he like believes it right away. But yeah,

1580
01:33:16.239 --> 01:33:18.239
they don't have that emotional connection right off the bat

1581
01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:20.079
like they do any book, and I feel like you

1582
01:33:20.119 --> 01:33:23.279
need it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's weird. There's a long

1583
01:33:23.319 --> 01:33:24.840
way way of saying that. So I don't know what

1584
01:33:24.880 --> 01:33:27.560
the show will look like I'm sorry about that. Yeah,

1585
01:33:28.520 --> 01:33:31.199
definitely seen the first one or two episodes, so I'm

1586
01:33:31.199 --> 01:33:33.760
gonna keep watching. Just you know, it wasn't bad or anything,

1587
01:33:33.800 --> 01:33:36.560
but it's just different, you know how that happens. Yes,

1588
01:33:36.840 --> 01:33:38.720
and it's in prison, like more present time, not in

1589
01:33:38.760 --> 01:33:41.359
the eighties, like the book is right in the seventies.

1590
01:33:41.359 --> 01:33:44.880
Actually the book isn't from the seventies. Yeah, they have

1591
01:33:44.960 --> 01:33:51.800
to check that out. I actually don't have any speaking

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01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:53.680
of recommendations. So it's kind of good that you had

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all that to say because I've only been watching. I

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don't know what got into me, but I've been watching

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nine one one zones start. Oh you didn't mention that.

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I don't know why. And honestly, I love Rob Low

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so I did too. Yeah, And like I told Carmen,

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but his if you watch Parks in rec like his

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character in Lone Star one Lone Star is very Chris

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trigger coated. Yeah, he's like super healthy. Some girl tried

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01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:22.239
to give him cookies and he was like, I'm actually

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an quito and then his firefighters like he's gonna eat

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01:34:25.399 --> 01:34:28.520
the cookie. Oh my god. Well, a while ago I

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started watching Parks in reg and I'm not at the

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part where Chris and Ben come yet, but I'm looking

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forward to that. They're almost They gave that the way,

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01:34:37.279 --> 01:34:41.119
they really gave that show the fresh of breath that needed. Yeah. Yeah,

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I like some episodes from before, but it doesn't hit

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the same without them. Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, so

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that's what I've been doing. I haven't been doing any

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his Pookie others than working on this podcast and dying

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from the flu. Yeah that's the real horror. The flu.

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That was the real horror. It was terrible. Yeah yeah,

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so yeah, yeah, other than that, I don't know if

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you've stuck with us this long. Wow, this was a

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long one. And yeah, don't forget that. On Patreon, we

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are donating every month to a different charity. Last or

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this month was a Lado's water Drop program where they

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drop off water in the middle of the desert, water, food,

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01:35:23.039 --> 01:35:26.039
weather appropriate clothing for those that need it out there,

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because you know, when people need it, they need it,

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and so they're like saving lives by providing this stuff.

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So we did donate. We combine as Spooky Tails and

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start has known of that goes to whatever charity if

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01:35:36.439 --> 01:35:37.960
you have any that you want us to donate to

1626
01:35:38.079 --> 01:35:40.079
let us know. If you want to help us with

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that and also help us at the same time, then

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join either Patreon honestly, yeah, though on a Spooky Taels

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you do get our actually we should upload the vlogs

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01:35:49.880 --> 01:35:52.960
to both, but you get our vlogs that Carmes Gonta

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01:35:53.000 --> 01:35:54.279
visiting a few days, so we're going to have a

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vlogs soon. And also we do episodes where we were

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01:35:57.479 --> 01:36:00.520
where we talk about our favorite media when I has

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01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:05.960
to do with like a certain genre, yeah, and then

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01:36:06.520 --> 01:36:10.319
what I gotta go, Okay, I will and this later

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Bye Bye. As Book Tells is hosted by Christina and Carmen,

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01:36:14.680 --> 01:36:18.479
produced and edited by Christina, researched by Christina Carmen and

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with the help of Don Shout Out Don. If you

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leave anything lower than that, please, I'm just kidding. You

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got new ones and these ones are huge. And if

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you want to support, but you can or don't want

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to join the Patreon, that's fine too. You can also

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get some merch. You can find sure s Essay, Spooky

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and old English letters. There's beanie. I love the beanie.

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There's also a hat. There's a no Mamus shirt which

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01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:09.680
is a fan favorite. There's a lot of options, crap tops, sweaters,

1656
01:37:09.720 --> 01:37:13.359
it's almost swetter weather. We're nearing a spookie season, so yeah,

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01:37:13.479 --> 01:37:15.520
get your hoodies. You're gonna need them. If you don't

1658
01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:17.479
want to do all that, that's fine too. You can

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01:37:17.560 --> 01:37:20.000
just listen like you're listening now, and that's the best

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support that you can give us, like I always say

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in our ad break and yeah, if you like history,

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you can follow Estodia's Unknown Mining, Carmen's other podcasts, and

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you can find as Spooky taels on all of our

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socials at a Spooky Tells All. This is in the

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show notes and we appreciate every single listen thank you

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so much, stay as spooky