Feb. 28, 2025

Castillo Marroquin and the Disappearance of Angie Peña

Castillo Marroquin and the Disappearance of Angie Peña

Castillo Marroquin is located in Chia, Colombia, a city and municipality in the department of Cundinamarca 10 km north of Bogotá. From the experiences of the Marroquin family, until the very last owners. many believe the castle is a magnet for bad...

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Castillo Marroquin is located in Chia, Colombia, a city and municipality in the department of Cundinamarca 10 km north of Bogotá. From the experiences of the Marroquin family, until the very last owners. many believe the castle is a magnet for bad energy and that it causes tragedy for its owners and employees

Carmen tells Cristina about this cursed castle and Cristina talks about the case of Angie Peña, who went missing while jetksiing with her sister in Roatan, Honduras.

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Hi, This is Christina and Carmen and this is another

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episode of a Spooky Tales podcast for all things a

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spooky true crime in Latin America. Today we have a

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haunted story from Columbia and then we also have a

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teue crime case from Central America. I was telling Carmen

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before we hit record here though, that last episode was

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our two hundred episode and we didn't even didn't announce it,

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We didn't prepare anything. Yeah, that's a big milestone. Yeah,

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two hundred episodes. So yeah, that happened. J Yeah, go us.

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We're still been here the whole time. You have been

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here the whole time. There was never a change in hosts. No, no,

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we miss him jam Yeah. All right. Before the topics

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that we have planned today, we do have a listener

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story and if you have a story that you want

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to send us to read on an episode, you can

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email as Spookytails at gmail dot com. You can submit

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it on Discord, you can send it to us on Instagram,

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you can call it a spooky hotline. There's a lot

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of ways. All that information is in the show notes.

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We love receiving your stories. So yeah, this is from

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someone their name it is not on here, So if

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they wanted to share it, that's too bad. I forgot to.

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Sorry there. Hopefully you recognize your story. Okay, so it goes. Hi,

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I'm new to your podcast. I have been listening non

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stop to catch up. I'm finally at twenty twenty two

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with the Historic Women episodes. That was a while ago.

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It was in twenty twenty two. Wow, like we were saying,

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I forget how old this podcast is now. I wanted

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to first say thank you for calling Booklet dictator. You're welcome.

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So far, I've been the only other person who's been

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like they're on their way to dictatorship, and everyone just

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gives me the side. But the way they've been trying

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to raise history is wild, down to wanting to remove

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the headstones of former gang members. You can't erase history.

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And at the end of the day, these are people.

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A gay activity in the SATA came for so many

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of the whares awful, very true. Yes, Yes, I also

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have a spooky story. When I was sixteen, I lived

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behind a church in North Hollywood. My mom was at

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work and I was sitting on my bed when I

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looked towards my door. If you went and left, you'd

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go into the bathroom, and right you go into the

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living room through a short hallway. Well. Crawling towards the

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bathroom with the back legs straight and in a ripped

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up and dirty white shirt was a girl with long

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black hair, not Samara from the ring so it sounds like,

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and her skin looked kind of yellow. It scares the

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shit out of me. I begged my boyfriend to stay

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on the phone until my mom came home. When she did,

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she asked what was wrong, and I asked if anyone

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was in the bathroom. She said no. Then I told

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her what I saw, and she asked me if I

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was high, and then yelled at me about why I

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didn't crawl out the window and couldn't give her a

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heads up because what if the thing attacked her? True?

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Oh my god, I'm sorry, but I love your living action.

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It was like first told me, wrong with you for

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running away? And why didn't you tell me the thing

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could still be here? Are you trying to come inside here?

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Oh my god. So we're talking about Castillo Maroquin today

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and it is located in Chia, Colombia, a city and

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municipality in the department of gundin America, ten kilometers in

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north of Boota because of how closer it to ba

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Chia is now a suburb of the city. So before

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the castle was ordered by Lorentzo Maroquin Ossolio, it was

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in acienda called Acinda Eda Buena, owned by the Maruquin family.

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Lorentzo Marouquin was a son of former Colombian President Jose

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Manuel Marroquin, and this is where the name of the

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castle comes from. Construction for the castle began in eighteen

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ninety eight and was completed by nineteen hundred. Architect Gaston Lelaque.

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Is that Spanish name not? I think it's European lilarge

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yea Gueston Ghastan like Ghistan being the beast. Yeah. Anyway,

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that guy designed the castle and was influenced by European

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architecture and Renaissance art, which made it the only type

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of a building of its kind in the region. This

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time period in Columbia was full of turmoil, and we

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won't get much into it because it's a lot and

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this is not a history podcast or so DAEs Unknown,

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which is our history podcast. Yes, but there was a

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revolt after revolt, ultimately leading to a civil war. The

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Marouquin family, or specifically Jose Manuel Maruquin, came into presidency

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after a coup. I'm like, why did the names how familiar?

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I guess maybe that's that's because you just did a

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whole four part series on the Panama Canal. No wonder.

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This is all happening when Banama was still part of Colombia,

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and there were many reasons for the war, among them

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being Banama wanting independence, which surprisingly the US is involved in.

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Not surprisingly, It's like, you know, no, yeah, the surprise

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surprise me mon TikTok where the guy is just like

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sitting there and the songs it's a surprise surprise, something

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that's not a surprise, and then he lives them and

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he's like, surprise surprise. Okay, yeah, I think I have

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seen that. That's all I say. I see and saying

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it yeah, yeah, my bad, that was my bad. So yeah,

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this was all happening while the castle was being built

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on their ACNDM. Initially, the Marouquin family used the castle

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as their home their primary residence, but over the years,

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the castle has drawn several admirers and has also had

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several owners, which include a writer, oil tycoon, and a

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cartel boss diverse. Very Currently, the state owns a castle

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and it is managed by the educational institution, the National

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Pedagogic University. But the experiences of the Maroquin family until

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the very last owners have made it my believe the

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castle is a magnet for bad energy and that it

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causes tragedy for its owners and employees. Jose Manuel Marroquin,

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the former president, his own mom is said to have

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been a victim of the castle's curse. His mom disappeared

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while visiting the chapel located in the attenda, according to legend,

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while the rest of the family was in the chapel

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about to start praying at the rosary like they did

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every day. I'm sorry, every day is too much, right,

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it really is. Yeah, But back then everyone was even

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more Catholic than now. Yeah. By everyone, I mean all

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the Latinos. You know, they had just been converted, not

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that long ago they had. I was just going to

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say that next. Wow, it's like we're twins and we're matching, right,

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Oh my god. The twining is like extra today. That's why.

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It's because we're matching, not only physically, but when we match,

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it's like the mental connection is the Okay, so that

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excused herself from the rosi, which honestly, I would also do.

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It was January sixth, a day that is infamous in

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many areas. Oh god, it really is twenty places, in

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many time periods and in many countries across time and space. Wow. Okay,

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it was January sixth, eighteen twenty eight. She went to

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grab a shawl because she was cold, but she never returned.

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That's kind of crazy to just go get a shawl

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and never returned. Yeah, it is a little bit out there. Yeah, okay.

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After weeks of searching, the family found her shawl near

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the Bogota River, but she was never seen again. Then

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the rumor started. Campsinos believed she was taken by demons. Honestly,

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that would have been my first thought to in eighteen

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twenty eight. Yeah. Others say she fled with the Frenchman. Interesting.

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I wonder what's going on there that they were like French.

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It was a Frenchman she took off with him. Interesting. Indeed,

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there was even a detO that began after she disappeared.

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People would say this when they didn't know what was

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going on. Imagine sucking dying and everyone starts saying this,

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Imagine you're dying.

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Imagine her mom goes and missing because she likes to

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get a shaw and then you don't know what happened

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to her, but you find the shawl next to the

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river and she never comes back. And then the compassinos

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around town or everyone, I guess, whenever they don't know

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what's going on, they all say, I love that it rhymes.

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Everything is better in Spanish first of all, like than English,

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but believe it also yeah, the fact that it rhymes. Yeah,

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leave it to Latinos to take this tragedy of a

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children losing their mother, a husband losing his wife, and

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then they're gonna make it rhyme. They're gonna start saying

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it after they don't know what's going on.

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It's crazy. No one's saying no, it's a we're lost

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in the sauce. No, Like I'm gonna try to remember

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this to just adopt it. Also, yeah, to start saying it,

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and so in English it would be but it isn't rhymes.

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That's not as cool. No, And honestly, I had a

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little trouble transcendent in so it'd be like if you're

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talking about something and then you're like, well that and

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also the thing with the Nida will be known in eternity, right,

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Like they're not going to know any of this until

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we die, and then it's not gonna happen. Yeah, like

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we'll never know until yeah, yeah, very macabb. The family

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later tried to calm these rumors down by putting out

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a death certificate which had the date of January seventh,

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eighteen twenty eight as her time of death. It stated

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that her body was found in a body of water

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between two buildings in Yea Babuena. Strangely enough, it was

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almost exactly where the castle would end up being built. Weird.

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The reports stated she had injuries on her head and

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a dislocated shoulder. Instead of putting down rumors about her disappearance, though,

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people just had more questions, something that remains a mystery today.

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One thing is sure, though, Since her disappearance, strange things

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started happening in the castle. A standal workers began to

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hear this reams of a woman by the small lake.

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They all believed that was crying because her son was

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all alone without a mother. Oh, and then they said, esan,

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oh my bad, that's not even wow. She said it

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all wrong, not even how it goes, doesn't even rhyme

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when I said it's wrong. When she died, her son

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Jose Manuel Marukin would take charge of the assenda business.

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So he took over the assenda business because sadly, his

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father also died. It could be said her death marked

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the start of the castle's curse. During one of the revolts,

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one of the many rules of the time, the assenda

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was burned down. It had to be rebuilt from the ruins.

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Then tragi continued to affect the family. Five of the

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eight Maruquine children all died mysteriously, all in a span

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of a month. Still, the family persevered and things were

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turning around. The country's rich were getting richer, and in

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this turn of the century was when Lorentzo Maruquin had

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the famous castle built. The castle became the presidential house

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during Columbia Civil War. It was also where politicians gathered

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to do political things like negotiating the cell of Panama

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and the Panama Canal. And if you want to learn

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more about that, checkout Studas Unknown Who are Carmen talked

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about it for four episodes. Yes, for that reason, it

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became a dangerous place and a target. Now we're in

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the a thousand day War. At some point during all

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of this, a Panamanian tried to bomb the castle with

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the president in it, but he felt As years passed,

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the Maroquin family began to leave their home for Spain

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until it was completely abandoned. It fell into a period

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of disarray, and the family eventually did away with the castle.

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They sold it in nineteen fifty two to writer and

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doctor Roberto Estrepo, who in return did not do much

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to clean up the castle's reputation. He turned the castle

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into a psychiatric hospital. Well, that will further fuel cursed allegations. Yes,

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oh yeah, he's never beating the curst allegations by turning

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this into a psychiatric hospital. But he died four years

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after this endeavor, fueling the castle's curse. There it is

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not bidding the curse allegations. During its time as a hospital,

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there were many reports of patients dying by suicide. One

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patient hung herself from the main balcony and another hung

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herself from a nearby tree. And in nineteen seventy the

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Venezuela oil tycoon Guillermo Villas mel purchased a property he remodeled.

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It added a pool and additional bedrooms for guests. Gulledmo

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decorated the home with beautiful and luxurious furniture he purchased

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from all over Latin America. He put flamingos in the

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property and had over two hundred horses. Flamingos horses very luxurious.

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I mean two hundred horses. That's pricey, that's flamingos. Come on, right,

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I didn't you think about the flamingos. I just think

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about how expensive horses are. Sadly, he never got to

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live in his dream home. On the day he was

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set to move in and throw a party to show

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off his new house, his plane crashed again for their

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feeling the talk of the curse. Wow, never beating the

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curse allegations, Nope. The castle's history took a more sinistter

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turn in the eighties and nineties after it was purchased

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by the cartel boss Juan Camilos and Patabasquez, who was

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connected to Pablo Escobat and Gonzalo Rodriguez Gacha. His nickname

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also happened to be El Brujo. Okay. He was accused

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of being paranoid and killing anyone he believed to be

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an informant. He allegedly practiced black magic in the castle

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with the help of a local Bruja. He wanted to

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use it against his enemies. They said he did satanic

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rituals involving animal sacrifices in the gardens and midnight forest gatherings.

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Midnight forest gatherings, I want to be invited to one

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of those bright but not by El Brujo, who is

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also a drug trafficker. No like someone else. He had

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two white horses that mysteriously died. He was killed in

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nineteen ninety three during a firefight with police. His death

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was the end to all the Bruchhelia and the castle,

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but not the end to the curse or the hauntings

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don Dun Dun. After his death, it became a state

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property and visitors could rent it out for events and parties,

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But tragic events continue to happen on the estate once

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in a while during a party or wedding. When something

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goes wrong, like the electricity stops working, people believe it's

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part of the curse. In July twenty twenty four, Brandon,

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I'm sorry, Brandon. Stephen Rodriguez, who was twenty seven, died

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while working on their property. In addition to Rodriguez's death,

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two other workers were also injured when they were helping

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to set up the music festival nexus Fest, which was

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scheduled to start July sixth. Chias Mayor Leonardo Donoso took

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to social media to announce that the death and injuries

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were a result of a accident. Colleagues told Brandon Rodriguez's

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mother that he was setting up a flag on a

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flag when he was struck by an electric shock. The

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mayor ended up canceling the festival that was supposed to

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happen on the sixth, again not beating the curse allegations.

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I mean, that's cursed. He was up on a flag

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pole and then he was hit by lightning. Yeah, like

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you know how rare that is. Only a curse would

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explain that. Yeah. And so that's only one of the

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issues right at the castle, because in addition to the curse,

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there's also a haunting or haunting's plural Okay, more than

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one visitors claimed to feel anxious, heavy, and sad. Even

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when it's supposed to be a happy celebration. They hear footsteps,

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only to turn around and see no one there. People

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also see orbs around dawn. They have also seen the

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spirit of a dog dragging chains. One security guard who

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works the night shift, claims to have seen one of

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the castle's most famous ghosts, a spirit nicknamed La s Angna.

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He was making his rounds when he saw a woman

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in the distance. When he tried to approach her, she vanished.

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First of all, I love a spirit the cute nickname, Yeah,

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me too. No one is sure at what point the

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spirit of La Sancna visited the castle during her lifetime,

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but she ended up there in her afterlife. Those who

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have seen her all describe her in the same way.

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She's a very tall dressed in all black and her

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face is always covered. She roams the north side of

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the castle crying and carrying a dead animal in her arms.

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That's kind of weird. She roams around crying, and then

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she sits on a rock near the back of the castle.

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Because of the crying, some have compared her to La Na.

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But when La san ConA makes a gesture of sitting

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down bending her knees, they rise and her legs grow

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so much that in the end she's not seen, remaining

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hidden behind the enormous and lanky legs. I'm trying to

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picture it, but I can't I picture like, I'm kind

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of picturing it, like, Okay, she's like sitting down, but

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her legs grow like so big to cover her, so

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that all you see is a pair of legs. Are

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her legs in front of her? Yeah, ok hmm. But

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it says she sits down bending her knees. Oh okay, no,

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I think she's I think I get it, like like yes,

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but her knees. I get it. I get it. Now.

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If you want a demonstration, you can watch this on YouTube. Yeah,

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Carmenta demonstrated. Yeah, okay, where was I So that's where

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her name Sancona comes from. I put this in parentheses

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the Spanish translation because I'm like, I don't understand what

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they're saying, like where legs go where? But okay, want

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to mention it. Gando estavan elevandolnao calfinan no selave lasormes

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e largiruchasuas Vietna's so her legs are too long, And

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I guess that's what means maybe like linky like linky legs.

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Oh maybe missus long legs, mother long leg in twenty fourteen,

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a production crew visited the castle with the intent of

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filming a documentary. None other equipment worked, and camera operators

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kept hearing whispers and sounds from empty rooms. Don't like that. No,

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not at all, No at all. While trying to film,

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one camera person felt a cold hand touch their shoulder. No.

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When they turned to see who was touching them, No,

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one was nearby. Another crew member passed out and began convulsing.

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They had to stop filming and quit the project. Some

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workers claimed to see the figure of a woman hanging

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from the bank from the main balcony, which is where

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one of the patients died by suicide. Others have seen

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Elina Vesa in the property and the headless horseman. Okay, oh, okay,

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sleepy hollow. No, this is the Colombian one. Yeah, And

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have we talked about I don't remember that. I honestly

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don't remember. I don't Maybe we haven't. No, we've talked

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about other headless figures and Dcinka Vesa, I remember that, Yeah,

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and then other figures on horses, but not a headless horseman.

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So he's seen that, a black horse with red eyes

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and an ear piercing wine. Sightings of the horsemen date

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back to before the castle's existence, from the ascianda days. Maybe. Yeah.

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Workers of the castle today try to avoid staying past

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seven thirty pm for some reason. Almost always from that

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time until nine pm, the figure of a six foot

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tall man dressed in black roams the garden at the entrance.

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He's then seen walking away and vanishes into the surrounding forest. Okay,

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what the hell? Why is there so many spars a law?

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I think it's because there was an acnda before. And honestly, yeah,

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aciendas are always terrible and they're always good. Happened there? No, no, Wow,

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that's Castillo Marquin. Wow, it had been a while since

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we had like one long haunted place. Yeah. I like

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that was fun. Yeah, fun and scary and cursed. Yeah. Okay,

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I guess we'll take a little outbreak here and come

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back with my half of the episode. And we're back,

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so we'll just hop right into my case. On January first,

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twenty twenty two, a hundred family was enjoying their New

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Year celebration in the island of Rotan, Induras. We have

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actually talked about in another episode La Brujacleo. Is that

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episode all taking place in Rotanas, but this is a

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tourist location known for its beautiful beaches, and then, sadly,

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what should have been a fun vacation turned into one nightmare.

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This was the day that changed our lives forever, and

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one with unexpected ties that are still not answered today.

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Angie Penya, Lizzie Pena, and their mother, Michel Melgaries were

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spending time together on the beautiful beaches of Ratan, and

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they had a lot to celebrate. Angie had just graduated

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with the bachelor's in business from Yuna tech U Nivesida

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Technologica Central Americana in de Gusi, Galpas, where the family

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lived together, also the capital of Onuras. She loved music, sports, life.

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She wanted to start her own business. Everyone knew she

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had a fright for sorry, everyone knew she had my

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decx yaha, it's just like a Friday. They all knew

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she had a bright future ahead of her. Sadly, all

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of that changed. On the first of twenty twenty two,

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around four pm, twenty two year old Angie and twenty

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four year old Lizzie rented two jet skis together. They

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went out onto the West Bay Beaches and while they

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were out there, Lizzie lost sight of her sister Angie.

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At first, stave like, oh, she'll reappear in a second. Here,

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I just can't see here right now, but you know,

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then ten minutes went by and there was still no

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side of her anywhere, and now Lizzie was worried that

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she couldn't find her sister. She called her mom, Michelle,

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and told her, I can't find Angie. And so Michelle

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ran from the hotel room down to the lobby begging

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for the hotel's help, like find help find my daughter, please,

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and they said no, we can't. We don't have anyone

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to go search the hotel or the water. So then

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she ran out to where the girls had rented the

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jet skis, and this place also refused to help. They

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said there wasn't enough gas for them to go out

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and search. Michelle then offered to pay for gas, and

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they were still like, nah, we can't help. Wow. Yeah,

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she tried the lifeguards. They also refused to help it,

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which is bodd honestly. Yeah, and sadly this marks how

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the rest of the search and investigation into her daughter

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would go. She found the same uncooperative attitude wasn't just

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limited to the hotel, but the Roatan police officials too.

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Michelle realized that she would have to work to figure

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out what happened to her daughter herself because no one

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else was helping. She left behind her life in Tegucigalpa

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and moved to Rotan permanently to dedicate herself to finding Angie.

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She paid for private air searches. She paid for hotel

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employees to go out and search on jet ski's, paying

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for their gas, which they were unwilling to do that day,

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but later when she paid, they did it. It apparently

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takes money to have some cooperation. Yeah, she followed every

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tip she came across the Luckily, the Coast Guard of

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Belize were cooperative. They started their search on the second

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of January after a call from the Benyat family that

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was like, our daughter was out there. She went missing,

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so they started searching. They searched the k's and I

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don't like, I'm not a tourist, I don't know what

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this is, but apparently there's like kisks their gays in

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Spanish c A. Yes, I guess it's just like a

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type of area in the beach. I don't know, but

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they have different names. Like there's skayet, buttonwood, hunting little

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water jacks. They're all different like resorts, I think. Okay,

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that was not very like you know when there's like

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a like a long coast and then like it goes

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like this and there's like a maybe is it like that? Okay,

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So they're just like small, a small, low elevation sandy

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island on the surface of a coral reef. And so

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they searched case between Belize Dratan, these caves, hunting little

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little water jacks and button wood, and they searched for

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three three days. The Coast Guard did the Belize Coast Guard.

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Michelle and Lizzie joined on several of these searches, almost

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ever research they were out there with the coast Guard.

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Local fishermen were also helping look for her. On the

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third of January, the Ondura Air Force also joined the search,

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and they did this like every day. They were flying

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f hundred feet just trying to see what they could see,

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and they were just like making sweeps of this area.

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On the fourth, the family made a public statement begging

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for the public's help to look for Angie, and they

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were also calling out the Roatan government for not helping

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and not being cooperative, and yeah, everyone found it extremely

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odd that they hadn't found the jet ski at least,

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because like find not being able to find someone, I

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think you can explain away, like oh, they just didn't

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they haven't resurfaced or something, but a whole jet ski,

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Like they were like, why haven't we found that at least? Yeah,

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it's weird. Yeah, And the Rotan authorities insisted that Angie

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had drowned in some jet ski accidents, and they refused

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to state like if there was any other explanation for

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her disappearance. Michelle, on the other hand, began to believe

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there was a possibility that Agie did not disappear out

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in the sea like the Roatan officials were stating. She

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believed that if she had disappeared out in the sea

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in this jet ski accident, the jet ski would have

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been found or she would have been found herself with

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a resurfaced at some point, and so she was starting

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to believe that's like not even what happened. Finally, on

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the eighth of January, whole seven days after Angie disappeared,

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around four forty of that day, the Belize Coastguard and

441
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:17.799
Belie fishermen came across an orange life fest and a

442
00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:21.759
red cable. They turned these over to the Honduran authorities

443
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:24.720
on the tenth of January and they came to the

444
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:27.799
conclusion that this was Angie's life fest and a red

445
00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:30.000
cable that was the kill switch for the jet ski

446
00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:33.000
that she was using when she went missing. But when

447
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:36.160
they showed the vest to Lizzie, who you know, left

448
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:38.920
that day with her sister on the jet skis, Lizzie

449
00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:41.319
insisted that this was not her vest. She was not

450
00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:45.400
wearing this interesting and so she was like, that's not hers,

451
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.880
but they didn't listen. Then the Belize Coast Guard, the

452
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:52.400
Onduda's Coast Guard, and local fishermen. They were making two

453
00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:56.680
rounds of searches every day. These searches covered thirty to

454
00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:59.839
thirty five nautical miles. Each time they returned, they gave

455
00:26:59.880 --> 00:27:08.119
the same update La Patria. The patrol concluded the search

456
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:10.920
and reports that they were unable to locate Miss Jipana.

457
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:14.880
This report changed on the eighteenth of January because just

458
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.960
after two thirty pm, local fishermen that were part of

459
00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:21.680
the search team came across what seemed to be Angie's

460
00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:25.480
jet ski. It was found in the mangroves, and those

461
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:29.240
are like these like watery trees almost the roots go

462
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:32.079
into the water and they're like just floating there, I guess.

463
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:34.400
So it was found in the mangroves on the eastern

464
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:38.599
side of Jack's K facing Buttonwood k areas that they

465
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:41.519
had already searched. If you recognize those names from a

466
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:44.640
little bit before. Yes, And also I was just gonna say,

467
00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:51.680
like if somebody left it there, right, So this jesski

468
00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:55.880
that was found was then towed to the tarpaulin k

469
00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:59.680
and it was handed over to officials. The jet ski

470
00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:03.680
was completely intact. It looked a little too new, especially

471
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.039
for having been found in the mangroves and having been

472
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:10.279
supposedly floating in the water for eighteen days, and for

473
00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:13.799
having travel hundreds of kilometers between it floating in the

474
00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:17.400
water them taking it back to that cave from the

475
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:20.279
other cavee like it should have looked worse than it did.

476
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:25.519
So Michelle then traveled to Placentia to take a look

477
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:27.839
at the ski, and she was like, why does this

478
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:31.240
ski look so intact and clean? Like this doesn't make sense.

479
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:34.880
She grew suspicious. She felt like they weren't even searching

480
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:37.400
the correct place anymore, and that Aggie had not gone

481
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:40.319
missing out in the sea like she was very suspicious now.

482
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:44.200
Also in the jet ski there was ear rings and

483
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:48.079
a necklace that also looked like new, like they should

484
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.000
have looked damaged if they had been out in the water.

485
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:52.960
According to Michelle. She was asked if these blanks and

486
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:55.759
Angie she wasn't sure, but also again they just looked

487
00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:59.279
undamaged and they were out in the ocean for almost

488
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:01.839
twenty days on the eighteenth that these things were found,

489
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:04.079
the jet ski and the jewelie on the jet ski.

490
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:08.119
But Michelle wasn't the only one growing suspicious. Back in

491
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:12.400
on Duras Janelli das the girls Tia, she was also

492
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:15.039
starting to question things because she had been receiving pictures

493
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.079
from during the trip from the girls and Michelle, and

494
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:21.440
like according to her, nothing was liing up either. She

495
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.680
could not believe that in the numerous searches of the

496
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.680
area the jeske had not been found until the eighteenth

497
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.920
and then when I was founded, it looked clean and intact. Yeah,

498
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:33.440
if it had been in an accident like you would

499
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.839
think it would look like it. I don't know yeah, right,

500
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:41.640
I don't use Jeki's so I don't know neither, but

501
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:46.119
presumably it's been exposed to elements in eighteen what eighteen days, right,

502
00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:48.880
you said it was yeah, yeah, so I mean it

503
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:53.920
wouldn't look back pegginy or yeah. Yeah. Then something new

504
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:58.000
came to light that cemented Michelle and Janelli's suspicions. A

505
00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:00.599
new witness came forward and he stayed that he was

506
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.880
sure he had seen Angie on her jet ski near

507
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:08.640
West End, another tourist area in Roatan, northeast to the

508
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.440
area where the girls had gotten the jet skis. The

509
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.759
witness saw all the news reports that were it was

510
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.240
like all over the media, and so he was watching

511
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:21.240
the news and he was like, why that I saw her?

512
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:24.759
And he realized like it was the first of January

513
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:28.519
when he saw them from his hotel balcony. He saw

514
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:33.559
Angie on her jet ski with an Islander, so a

515
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:38.119
Roatan local, and he remembers her because her vacency was

516
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.519
very bright and it was a very bright pink. Okay,

517
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:44.240
you notice it right away, yes, But more than that,

518
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:49.000
she looked uncomfortable in her interaction with this local. Then

519
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:52.799
he saw another man approach the man and Angie, and

520
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.000
this other man looked like he gave the islander, the

521
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:59.640
Roatan local, some money. With this new information, Michelle went

522
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:02.759
to the authorities and begged them to take a look

523
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:05.440
at the cameras of this hotel that the man was

524
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:08.759
in and of nearby businesses. But it was too late

525
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:11.119
because when the police went over to ask for this

526
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:14.880
information to be handed over, the hotels and the businesses

527
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.599
had deleted everything from the first several days of January Wow,

528
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:23.559
which again further cemented Michelle's suspicions that something was going

529
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:25.960
on here, something was fishy, nothing was adding up. Then

530
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:28.359
it got worse when at the end of January, the

531
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:32.319
principal investigator assigned to the case, Carla Savalla, quit answering

532
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:35.960
the family's messages and she blocked Michelle's phone number. So

533
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:38.640
the family started to believe like there's more going on here.

534
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:41.079
They started to think that the government or the state

535
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:45.200
of Rotan was involved on its yeah, and they started

536
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:49.319
to feel like Angie's disappearance was a little too close

537
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:52.680
to a twenty seventeen cas or a twenty six year

538
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:57.079
old Marta Fabriola Males also went missing while on a

539
00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:01.000
jet ski what what is going on? And she was

540
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:04.799
never found. To this day, Martha has not been found.

541
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:10.559
Martha's own mom. When the media was publicizing Angie's case,

542
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:14.799
Martha's own mom, Fanny, met with the media and said

543
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:18.160
that you know, her daughter disappeared in the same way,

544
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:20.920
in the same area as Angie, but she couldn't afford

545
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:24.200
to continue the search, like Michea's mom and like it's

546
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:27.599
crazy that they need money. He shouldn't need money for that. Yeah,

547
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.559
seven months went by with zero news and the family

548
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:33.480
decided to try and ask for the government's help. They

549
00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:38.160
wrote a letter to Onduas, the government of Ondurdas, about

550
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:40.920
how things were adding up in the investigation, about how

551
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:45.039
the Rotan government, like local government, was unwilling to help them.

552
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:47.839
And on top of that, they had hands it over

553
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:51.880
Angie's phone two investigators in Ratan, and it seemed like

554
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:55.519
someone had been using Angie's phone. Her picture from her

555
00:32:55.720 --> 00:33:00.160
WhatsApp profile was deleted, and Angie had been removed from

556
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:03.400
group chats, and she was showing up as online on

557
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:06.079
whatsapped because it tells you when someone is online. So

558
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:09.920
during those seven months, yeah, during those seven months, wow,

559
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:14.400
they had handed over the phone and someone deleted her

560
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:17.880
picture from WhatsApp, removed her from group chats, and just

561
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:21.039
once in a while it said she was online. And

562
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:24.359
they're like, obviously it shouldn't they shouldn't be seeing that. Yeah,

563
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:26.720
because they handed over the phone. It shouldn't be. There

564
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:29.119
should be no activity on it, right, And at the

565
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:31.559
end of the letter, they expressed their belief that she

566
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:35.119
had not gone missing out on the sea, but instead

567
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:39.079
she was taken somewhere closer to the hotel for the

568
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:42.559
purpose of sex trafficking. They believed the state was involved

569
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:45.319
in this trafficking ring, and after they sent this letter,

570
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:50.400
the government of Honduras did quickly get like working. They

571
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:54.160
assigned new investigators to her case. Wow, and by the

572
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:58.319
end of this new investigation, it seems that Michelle's suspicions

573
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:03.200
were validated. So authorities never it's just at least it's

574
00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:06.319
not public. They've never disclosed what led them to this

575
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:10.360
next part of the investigation. But something was uncovered during

576
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:14.159
this new investigation that led them to a man named

577
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:19.119
Gary Lee Johnston. Gary Yeah, Gary Lee, Gary, what are

578
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.480
you doing there? Get out of there? An American that

579
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:26.320
had been living in Dratthaan for six years. Oh, they

580
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:29.840
rated his property looking for Angie. So something led them

581
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:32.760
to believe she was there. I don't know, I feel

582
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:34.280
like I'm not even saying words anymore. I was just

583
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:43.480
like just incoherent grunts. I heard Gary and I was like,

584
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:50.920
bitch starts crowling. Okay, So something led them to look

585
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:54.360
for her at his property, and sadly they didn't find her.

586
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:58.920
But they did find a twelve year old girl some

587
00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:04.840
sources say seven but underage either way, a minor, a

588
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:10.760
barely clothed miner in his apartment that had been a

589
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:14.679
missing for a while. She had been trafficked to his apartment.

590
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:19.000
I think that they shouldn't allow older white men to

591
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.199
go to these kind of countries or just be banned

592
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:22.840
from it. And I know that sounds wrong, but I

593
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.519
think that we need to think about the what did

594
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:30.440
they call it? Pastro tourism? Oh? The past part, bros.

595
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:33.480
Is the I guess link term. Well, because sadly sex

596
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:37.519
tourism isn't even like it's it does involve trafficking. And yeah,

597
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:41.440
like it's called sex tourism, but it's involves trafficking and

598
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:46.400
exploitation of miners always, you know what I mean so yeah,

599
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:51.679
bad old white man from entering tourist areas. Please yes. Anyway,

600
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:57.039
So on top of the underage scroll, they found trafficked

601
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:00.559
in his property, they found the bay didn't say that

602
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:04.599
Angie had been wearing when she went missing. What Yeah?

603
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:09.360
And they also found ours of child sex abeest material.

604
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:13.440
Ooh what the fuck? On top of that, I knew

605
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:16.119
it the minu he said, Gary, I was like, but yeah,

606
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:19.440
what I mean, like your bells were ringing for a reason. Oh,

607
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:23.239
sixty three year old Gary Johnston owned the condemn Minium

608
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:25.719
building where he lived. So like, why is this man

609
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:28.639
able to go to another country, buy own condo building

610
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:34.119
and exploit girls? Yeah? For real? So he owned this

611
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:37.039
building where he lived, but nobody else really knew him.

612
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:41.480
He kept himself and he was arrested on August twenty ninth,

613
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:46.840
twenty twenty two, and Deputy Security Minister Julisa bien Weba

614
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:49.320
stated that they believed he was not working alone, that

615
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.000
he was never are Yeah, of course they never are,

616
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:54.599
and that he was part of an international network of

617
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:58.199
human trafficking that went by the name Delta Teams. What

618
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:03.199
and so? Then and in April twenty twenty four, two

619
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:07.840
Americans were arrested for abducting women to be part of

620
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:11.599
this trafficking ring. Oh my god. They were William James

621
00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:16.119
Murdoch and Harold Green along with an undurant man named

622
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:21.760
Gustavo Treco. And there's another person authorities believe were involved

623
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:24.880
the disappearance of Angie. So these three they have connected

624
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:27.280
to Angie somehow. They haven't made this public, but that's

625
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.400
what They were arrested for trafficking and for being connected

626
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:34.400
to her disappearance. The fourth man is Anthony Frank Grayson,

627
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:39.199
but he has been like he like ran off. He's

628
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:42.599
missing somewhere like nobody can find him. They're unable to

629
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.119
locate him. But he was the owner of a hotel

630
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:50.079
boutique called The Dock in Ratan, and authorities believe that

631
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:53.280
this is where the trafficking ring worked out of. They

632
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:57.760
operated out of his hotel, the Dock, and they also

633
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:00.840
believe Angie Beenya was at the Dock for at least

634
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.440
three days. At some point, these men were all charged

635
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.559
and arrested. It seems that were awaiting trial. I can't

636
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:11.039
find any new information, but as of twenty twenty four,

637
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:14.639
they were arrested and their lawyers insist that their clients

638
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:19.079
were not involved with Angie Beanya's disappearance. Michelle's mom is

639
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:21.760
still holding out hope that her daughter is out there alive.

640
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.880
She maintains her belief that the same people helping her

641
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:29.760
search for her daughter were involved police judges. She's like,

642
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:33.800
they're having they have someone's help because yeah, their past,

643
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:37.639
yeah right, and with like the owner of this boutique

644
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:39.880
operating a sex ring, someone has to know and someone

645
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:43.199
is keeping it hidden to let them get away with

646
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:46.840
these things. Yeah. As of the end of twenty twenty four,

647
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:50.039
the case seems to be stuck. Angie is still missing

648
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:53.519
and Anthony Frank Grayson has not been found to bring

649
00:38:53.559 --> 00:39:00.119
in for his arrest. So wow, I hope Angie is

650
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:04.280
found me too. And it's like it also begs the

651
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:07.840
question why we're the local authorities so insistent she went

652
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.079
missing and we're like refusing to help, Like it's it

653
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:13.440
really does seem like something more. It makes it it's

654
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:17.000
very fitchy behavior. That the fact that the first over

655
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:21.639
two weeks of when she first went missing, that they

656
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:25.400
were completely unhelpful, and then it took that letter for

657
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:29.599
more like something else to happen. Yeah, well, and then

658
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:34.400
the involvement of a yeah yeah, outside agencies to look

659
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:38.199
into it, Yeah, which makes the seem like there are

660
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:43.960
involved probably, yeah for sure. Yeah, that's that's the more

661
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:47.800
suspicious part. But yeah, I hope she's still I hope

662
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:52.239
she's found. And yeah, that was the case of Antipinia

663
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:56.719
that I think. It's like, it's an important story to

664
00:39:56.760 --> 00:40:00.440
tell because it brings a lot of issues to mind adults,

665
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:02.760
Like we already talked about it's a whole passport bro

666
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:07.519
and sex tourism, which is predatory. And I agree with

667
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.519
you that old white men should be banned from Latin

668
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:15.639
America and the Philippines. Yeah, and wherever else they go,

669
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:19.920
the Global South, the Global South, anywhere that's not here, honestly,

670
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:21.840
because that's where they come from from here, you know

671
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:25.760
what I mean. And there's a whole well, I mean,

672
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:27.599
like we said that, Yeah, there's a whole movement of

673
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:33.599
men looking for women from the Global South because they

674
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:38.239
believe women from the Global South are more submissive and

675
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:43.679
also like desperate to lead their situations, so exploiting them. Yeah,

676
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:49.360
disgusting behavior. Oh no, go ahead, I was just gonna

677
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:53.199
say they believe that women from here United States are

678
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:57.639
to have become too not feminized, because that's the wrong

679
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:01.960
word masculine. I guess like they have like they're two

680
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:06.119
feminists for their liking. They stand up for the rights

681
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:09.559
too much, so that's why they look to the Global South,

682
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:13.559
which there's a large feminism movement in the Global South too.

683
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:18.239
Like this is into ridiculous. Yeah, they don't even know. Now,

684
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:20.599
have you seen on TikTok there was like a white,

685
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:24.000
old white guy who was yes his thing. Well, I

686
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:26.639
didn't see it on TikTok, but I watched the YouTube.

687
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:31.519
Do you watch Kat Black on YouTube? No? She has

688
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:33.639
been making content for the longest time. I think I

689
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:37.880
first discovered her like twenty fifteen probably, oh wow, and

690
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:39.920
she I don't remember how I found her, but she's

691
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:44.679
a trans black woman. She's been making videos about politics,

692
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:52.199
trans rites, feminism, current issues sometimes just like internet things

693
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:54.199
for a long time. And that's where I saw this

694
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:56.559
man that you're bringing up. I'm pretty sure it's the

695
00:41:56.599 --> 00:42:01.679
same man, the guy with the wife from Vietnamese wife, yeah,

696
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:04.800
or my Filipino wife. I think it's I want to

697
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.000
say it's Filipina. Yeah, yeah, so he would he would

698
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:10.119
start every video my Filipino wife, blah blah blah blah,

699
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:12.760
my Filipino wife, like anyone who starts off like my

700
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.840
Latina wife, my Mexican wife, my Filipine Like, they don't

701
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:20.239
see you for you, they are fetishizing you. Yeah, there's

702
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:22.920
nothing I hate more. Did you see also that? I

703
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.440
think it's like a screenshot going around. If you're a

704
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:29.440
white man and you're starting off any tweet as mentioning Latina.

705
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:33.000
Has just stop something like that. I mean, go on.

706
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:35.679
I haven't seen it, but a while back he made

707
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:38.519
another TikTok where he was like, my Filipino wife has

708
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:42.079
become too americanized. She divorced me, Well, she was trying

709
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.239
to divorce him. They didn't actually getting divorced. I was

710
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:48.800
reading still together. You know why, because she found out

711
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:54.239
she was pregnant sow baby trapped her. My heart goes

712
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:56.960
out to her. Yeah, oh, I can't even say that anymore.

713
00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:03.400
It's been just do it in Spanish, goes out to her.

714
00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:06.679
They're so fucking dumb. We're not going to get into that.

715
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:09.159
But I just can't stand the videos of when that

716
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:11.960
first happened, where all the people were like my heart

717
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:14.039
goes out to you and then they're like doing it

718
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.960
with their hand up and then everyone says gense videos

719
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:20.559
and they're like, yeah, flip your hand around or do

720
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:27.400
like a wide shot. Like yeah, there's too many stupid

721
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:31.199
things going on right now. But I want to write

722
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:34.880
up another point about this about sex trafficking right and

723
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:38.400
I think I've been to countless trainings about you know,

724
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:42.000
in the social social work world. That's hard to say

725
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:44.920
all the once all the W words, you know, but anyway,

726
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:49.119
I've been to a lot of like sex trafficking and

727
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:59.119
c sex, which is child sexual ex wait sex commercially

728
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:03.880
sexually exploited child children. Okay, that's set. It's uh yeah,

729
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:07.519
so it's like a term for sexually exploited children basically,

730
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:09.599
they just you know, they say se SEC. So I've

731
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:12.519
been to a lot of trainings about that sex trafficking

732
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:16.360
sea SEC. There's a lot of organizations around that help

733
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:19.400
se SEC youth and whatever. But I think that there's

734
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:21.480
a huge miss in peace and a lot of these

735
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:26.039
kinds of trainings. One of those is that if sex

736
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:31.679
work wasn't so stigmatized, then victims of sex trafficking would

737
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:35.599
not feel a shame to come forward and leave those

738
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:39.320
worlds because sometimes they're they're right, it's forced, right, But

739
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:43.760
a lot of times children that are trafficked, they grow

740
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:46.199
up like this and then they stay in the world

741
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:49.800
of in the sex world is what they know because

742
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.920
it's what they know, but also because there's a stigma

743
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:56.400
to it and they're there's shame around around it, so

744
00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:58.599
they they don't feel like they can ask for the

745
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.920
help that they need or whatever else do anything else

746
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:05.320
because of the shame tie to sex world, sex work.

747
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:07.960
I mean, this makes sense. Yeah, And so like I

748
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:11.400
feel like that's like always missing from these trainings and

749
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:16.760
that's why, like the discussions around feminism, around sex positivity

750
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:20.840
are so important, because if people are ashamed, they're never

751
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:24.280
going to come forward for help. Like shame is the

752
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:26.719
number one thing of you know, keeping these things like

753
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:31.320
secret and hidden. And yeah, so I just wanted to

754
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.960
mention that that's important. Yeah, thanks for bringing that up

755
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:39.480
and your perspective as a social worker. Latina TM. Yes, yeah,

756
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:46.000
you're welcome. La capital e capital L yes, yes, Indian

757
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:50.679
Old English. Yeah. Okay, Well with that, we'll take a

758
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:59.119
little outbreak here and come back with spooky recommendations and

759
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:04.800
we're back. Do you have any spooky recommendations? I started

760
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:08.000
listening to Thirst, which you recommended. Actually, I don't know

761
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:09.639
if you gave it as a speaker recommendation or we

762
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:11.840
just talked about it in one of our Patreon episodes.

763
00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:16.800
It was a vampire media. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm

764
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:21.599
not done yet. Where am I at? I'm curious. I'm

765
00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:27.159
still at the perspective or point of view of the past. Okay,

766
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:30.199
And honestly, that was so good to me. It is

767
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:36.119
so good so far. I loved just okay, her trying

768
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:40.440
to survive, going from house to house, the yellow fever. Yes,

769
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.280
so I guess you should say what it's about, right,

770
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:50.440
But Christina finished it. So it's Thirst by Marina. You.

771
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:53.639
I don't know how to say this. You skook you suok.

772
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:58.880
Maybe it's spelled y u s z c z uk.

773
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:07.960
She just shrugged for everyone not watching anyway. So it

774
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:11.960
is the nineteenth century, the twilight of Europe's bloody well,

775
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:16.000
I don't know how pronounces were backanles whatever, and the

776
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:20.480
vampire vampire must escape. She arrives to the coast of

777
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:23.199
Buenos Aidis and for the second time in her life

778
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:27.920
watches as villages transform into a cosmopolitan city. She adapts,

779
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:31.000
intermingles with humans, and attempts to be DISCREETE that's the

780
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:33.159
part that I'm at right now, and it's absolutely beautiful

781
00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:36.679
the way it's written. Okay, then goes on in present

782
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:39.440
day Buenos Itis, a woman finds herself at an impasse

783
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:42.719
as she grapples with her mother's terminal illness and her

784
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:46.320
own relationship to motherhood. When she first encounters the vampire

785
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:49.480
and a cemetery, something ignites inside the two women, and

786
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:52.880
they cross a threshold from which there's no turning back.

787
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.840
But echoes of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein Thirst place with the

788
00:47:56.840 --> 00:48:00.599
boundaries of the gothic genre while exploring the limits of

789
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:05.559
female agency, all consuming desire, and the fragile vitality of

790
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:09.119
even the most immortal of creatures. But Yeah, I'm really

791
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:12.559
liking it. I love the Yeah. When she finds herself

792
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:15.639
in the villa, I guess it would be the empty villa,

793
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:19.840
and she just kind of like chilling there until I

794
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:21.599
don't want to spoil it too much, but until she's

795
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:24.519
forced to leave the villa, I guess, yeah, And then

796
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:27.360
she ends up living in the cemetery, which is I mean,

797
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:30.199
that's in the summary, so that's not a not a spoiler. Yeah,

798
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:34.280
but yeah, there's just there's so much love, and it's

799
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:38.119
all kind of love straight love, lesbian love, because it

800
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:44.079
all yeah, and it's yeah, it's just it was very

801
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:49.159
interesting to see her in the past surviving. I love

802
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:51.760
reading like a like about the past, but like in

803
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:54.880
a gothic like type of novel, you know, like Isabel

804
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:58.880
that's like, that's what gotic and that's what this first

805
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:00.920
half I guess. I don't how is it like half

806
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:04.159
of it or more? Pretty much? Okay, pretty much half. Yeah,

807
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:06.280
that's what the first half is giving. And I was

808
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:10.280
again not a huge fan of the second half. If

809
00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:13.039
I could have just read the first half, I called

810
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:15.840
it a day, but I was like, to finish. I know,

811
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:18.760
we need to do our book club episode. I felt

812
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:21.760
it also, we really do we need to do the

813
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:25.039
book club episode? To start those notes? I did start them,

814
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:27.880
Oh yes, yeah, yeah, I really want us to do

815
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:29.920
it so that we can pick our next book. I

816
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:32.519
know there's so many possibilities for the next book too,

817
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:34.559
And I think that we need to consider changing the

818
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.559
name of the book club because I actually read very

819
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:48.719
fast now that i'm again, but I don't, so we can't. Okay,

820
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:53.039
so I don't have speaking recogmindations. I honestly don't know

821
00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:58.119
what I've been doing other than oh, sorry, I've been dying.

822
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:02.320
That's what happened. You were sick, Well, first I was sick, No,

823
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:05.599
but then I got my period again, and y'all, I'm dying.

824
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:08.400
When I have an extreme fatigue, I literally need to

825
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:10.840
sleep her off all over and just start sleeping anyway.

826
00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:14.239
So then my life is wasted while I'm on my period.

827
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:19.079
I hate it. I'm seeking medical hope because, yeah, I

828
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:21.400
have plans to go to the gym, but I literally

829
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:24.840
can't wake up. I'm so fatigued. I'm in so much pain.

830
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:28.840
It's miserable. So i'n't been doing anything. Today I finally

831
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:32.559
feel normal again. Well like yesterday, I felt a little better.

832
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:34.760
But yeah, that's why I haven't been watching anything scary.

833
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:38.360
I did randomly start watching this show called Day Zero

834
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:42.880
on Netflix. It's a thriller. It's new, and I started

835
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:45.840
watching it because the cast was stabbed to Robert de Niro.

836
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:52.000
Angela Bassett is the president. Ok. Wow, I actually would

837
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:54.400
have watched her in anything. I love her. Yeah, so

838
00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:59.039
she's the president in this show. You never watched Breaking Bad.

839
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:03.760
But what's his name? He's, for some reason one of

840
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:09.079
my other favorite white men. He's married to Christian Jesse guy.

841
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:13.960
Oh wait, his name is, isn't it Jesse Plemons? Yes, yeah,

842
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:15.920
I don't know why I know that, honestly, because I

843
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:20.360
don't really watch anything. Because he's married to Kristen Dunce.

844
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:23.400
Could be it could be. Okay, Well, for some reason,

845
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:25.679
I love that man. I don't watch anything that he's in.

846
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:28.360
He's a really good actor. I've seen him only, I

847
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:30.840
feel like, in a few other things, and I don't

848
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:33.760
remember most of them. But I watched he kills or

849
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:36.079
type movie. He's like a villain most of the time, too, right,

850
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:42.800
isn't he? Yeah? Yeah, So he's in this The Mean Girls.

851
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:47.039
You know the is her name Janet? She's Katie's friend

852
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:53.760
the Yeah, yeah, okay, Janet Janet from The Lebanese Girl. Yes, yeah,

853
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:57.760
she's too. Yeah. She is also really good in this role,

854
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:03.440
so she's in it. A lot of big names of

855
00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:08.360
the favorite white man, Dan Stevens Quieter. I told you

856
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:11.039
he's in that vampire movie. Oh, he's also in Legion.

857
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:15.000
He's like a villain in the movie, right, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

858
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:18.519
he's in this show too. All your favorite white people,

859
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:21.880
all of my favorite white people, and Angela Bassett like, yeah,

860
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:26.840
you can't go wrong. So I don't know. I'm almost

861
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:30.280
done with it, and honestly, like, the actors are all

862
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:36.039
so good, and but I'm like, where's the story going? Interesting?

863
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:38.719
And I've seen criticus of the show where it's like

864
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:41.559
the cast were stacked, but the writers just I don't know,

865
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:44.760
it wasn't there like something they lost the pot. It's

866
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:48.559
that's what it seems like. So I don't know how

867
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:51.000
I feel about it yet. I'm almost done with it

868
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.440
because it's very short. It's like a six episode thing.

869
00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:57.920
So but I'm kind of feeling like, yeah, the actors

870
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:00.559
are all really good in their roles. Each one is

871
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:05.280
killing it, but where is the story going? Yeah, That's

872
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:06.880
what I feel about it. So I don't know if

873
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:09.079
I recommend it. I just wanted to say I'm watching

874
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:13.719
it because I was impressed with the cast because sorry,

875
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:16.639
that made me laugh, because it was a top notch

876
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:18.760
cast and I'm like, all right, I have to check

877
00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:21.400
this out. These are again my very white people, Robert

878
00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:25.079
de Niro, Jesse Plemmons, Dan Stevens, and then Angela Bassett

879
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:27.639
was president. So I'm like, I gotta watch this, but

880
00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:29.360
I guess the whole premise I guess of the show

881
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:33.639
is this event called Day zero is what they're calling

882
00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:37.199
it after it happened. But somebody shuts off all the

883
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:41.480
electronics systems in the US for one minute on this

884
00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:44.480
day that they're calling Day zero. And so because all

885
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:47.599
these things shut off at the same time, planes don't

886
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:50.480
planes don't know where they're going, they crash, Trains don't

887
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:53.840
know where they they can't. It's like, what's the thing

888
00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:56.360
that was going to happen from ninety nine to why

889
00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:59.119
two K? It's like why two K? Yeah, but for

890
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:03.400
twenty minute? Yeah. Then actually happened while in the show,

891
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:10.000
right right right, not not irl, but like three thousands

892
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:12.440
something people died from this. And then there's like the

893
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:16.400
whole countries on edge because it was an attack, and

894
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:18.519
first of course they're trying to be in Russia. Then

895
00:54:18.519 --> 00:54:22.960
they're like, okay, who caused this? Meat answers, Yeah, a

896
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:26.280
little spoilery, But because this happened, they put together a

897
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:29.280
commission that's gonna like try and figure out what happened.

898
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:32.360
And they give this commission like all the power in

899
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:36.320
the world. They can violate people human rights right like

900
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:39.199
the Constitution because they're trying to figure out what happened.

901
00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:42.440
And Robert de Niro is in charge of this commission

902
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:48.960
and he was former president. Interesting. It's a good premise.

903
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:52.719
It sounded so interesting. And again I'm on episode five,

904
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:56.400
but I'm like, all right, but like like things are happening,

905
00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:59.840
but it's just not I don't know something's missing. But

906
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I'm still going to finish it because I'm only what

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episode away ye at this point and okay, yeah, I

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mean at that point you might as well finish. Yeah. Yeah,

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it's an interesting premise. And again the cast was sacked

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and that's enough to hold me there. So yeah, but

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I don't know if I recommended it, and yeah, that

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is on my head and I guess shout out to

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our newest patron member. I forgot to look at your

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name of that out. I'm sorry, but thank you for joining.

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Thank you for joining. If you want to help us

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with mutual aid or looking for different organizations once a month,

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don't need to, you know, join the Patreon because twenty

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percent of that goes to that mutual aid help. But also,

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you know, if you want to hear episodes where we

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read scary stories to each other, it's usually me reading

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them to Carmen. We just said one about mirrors and

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it was very fun. It was a fun episode. It

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was it really was very scary stories. Yeah. Also before that,

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I talked about our favorite evm hire media. We're gonna

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go to Mexico next month, and if we don't die

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in the plane then yeah, if we make it to Mexico,

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then we were planning on recording some content for Patreon

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as well. So yeah, other than that, I don't know

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anything else to add. No, I think that's it. Okay,

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stay a SPOOKI and we'll catch a real on next time.

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Bye bye. As Booktels is hosted by Christina and Carmen,

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produced and edited by Christina, researched by Christina Carmen, and

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with the help of Don shout out with Don. If

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you aren't joying the podcast considerably, going to say five

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star review, we would really appreciate it. If you don't

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want to the Professor review, just don't leave a review,

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but don't leave anything lower than that, please, I'm just kidding.

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You can reach out to the podcast at a Spooktels

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at gmail dot com. You can go to our website

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at bukitos dot com and fill out the contact form.

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If you want to support the podcast, you can join

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Eight dollar members get an exclusive key chain. It's super cool.

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I got new ones and these ones are huge. And

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if you you want to support, but you can or

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don't want to join the patreon, that's fine too. You

947
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can also get some merch. You can find shurets to

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say as spooky and old English letters. There's a beanie.

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I love the beanie. There's also a hat. There's a

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no Mamus shirt which is a fan favorite. There's a

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lot of options, crap tops, sweaters. It's almost swetter weather.

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We're nearing a spookie season, so yeah, get your hoodies.

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You're gonna need them. If you don't want to do

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all that, that's fine too. You can just listen like

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you're listening now, and that's the best support that you

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can give us, Like I always say in our ad

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break and yeah, if you like history, you can follow

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Estoia's Unknown Mining, Carmen's other podcasts, and you can find

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a Spooky Tails on all of our socials at Spooky

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Tells All. This is in the show notes and we

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appreciate every single listen. Thank you so much, stay as

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Spooky