An Encounter With La Siguanaba

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Hi everyone. This is Christina and
this is m J. And this is

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another episode of a Spooky Tells,
the podcast for all Things as Spooky,

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and today we have a lovely guest
with us. I'm so excited to talk

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with her. I found her on
TikTok. But do you want to say

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hi to everyone? Tell us a
little bit about yourself. Hi, guys,

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my name is Ruth Castile. I
enjoy paranormal and horror anything, and

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I'm so excited to be here.
Yeah. I think I was scrolling and

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I'm trying to remember the first TikTok
that I found of yours. I think

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it was you're like talking about how
your dad sa. Yeah. Yes,

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I'm so excited for everyone to listen
because we that was like our episode one,

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right m J. Yes, yes, that was the first episode we

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did. Yeah, and when we
were doing it, we could not find

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any actual encounters with Lasianava. Like
when I asked my dad about it,

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he was like, oh, yeah, but only the like, only the

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people in the rural areas see her
because he never like heard, he heard,

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he knew of her, but he's
never seen her. He's from So

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Yeah, very excited and that's true, right, that's what. Yeah,

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I was like, my dad is
very proud. He's always saying he's from

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my example. Yeah, I love
it, love it. Yeah, my

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dad is a he's from the city, so from Okay. But before we

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get into your stories, we do
have a listeners story and if anyone wants

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to send in their stories, you
can email at spookytails at gmail dot com.

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You can submit it on Discord.
We have a channel that just says

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submit your scary story. You can
also send it via DM. Any of

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those are fine. So here we
go. Hello once again. This occurrence

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happened in my mom's hometown, Siguas. Again, take this with a grain

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of salt. I don't know how
true this is. So there's a river

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and for the longest time people have
said not to be out late at night

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because there were witches that turned into
floating balls of fire that followed the river.

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People would always disappear or have bad
luck if they saw the fireballs.

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So one day my mom's cousin.
Three of them were out drinking and got

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really late and they started walking home. Two of the men lived close to

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each other, so they went on
their way. Now the last man was

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walking along the river trying to get
home. He said he saw three floating

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balls of fire in the distance.
He decided it was a good idea to

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run after them and throw rocks at
them. What wow, that sounds like

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a terrible That sounds like the opposite. So that's what he did. He

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said he managed to hit one of
the balls and it fell. He was

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yelling out of excitement, and since
he didn't see the fire the ball of

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fire light backup, he decided to
head home. Once he got home,

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he told this story, and nobody
believed him because he was drunk. The

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next day, all the women and
went to the river to wash their clothes,

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and to their surprise, there was
one woman from town that did not

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show up. A couple of them
went to check on her to make sure

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she was okay. They found the
women in her home full of bruises.

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They asked her what happened, and
she says, she fell going to the

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owl house. Well, as you
might guess, the whole town now knew

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who one of the witches was.
That's as far as the story goes.

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I don't think they did anything to
her other than keep their distance. Oh

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this reminds me of a Letusa's story
that I heard like a long time ago.

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Actually we manag shared it MJ.
But it was like there was Lisa

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that was taking kids or something,
and they suspected that it was this one

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woman and they went to her house
and like I mean, just like they

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did in these like old stories.
They I think they beat her, but

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then when she was an owl or
they shot at the owl. And then

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the next day they went to this
lady's house and she was like missing a

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leg or something. Yeah, like
she was like injured. Yeah, yeah,

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that reminds me. That's sort of
memory of that, because yeah,

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they found her all bruised up,
but I'm glad they didn't do anything to

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her, and they just like let
her live. In my dad's town.

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The witches would turn into pigs.
What I have not heard that I've I've

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heard that. I've heard that they
turned into pigs. Yeah, where have

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I been. I've only heard of
them turning into like some sort of flying

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like litusas or I think I've even
seen cats, but no, I've never

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had snakes snakes, but I've never
heard of pigs. Yeah, and they

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were destroying crops and yeah, they
do that to torture, like they were

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just they were bad. Yeah,
I've I've heard that because my mom told

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me a story about this one guy
who fell in love with the He was

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married, but he fell in love
with with the lady who was thought to

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be a bruha. And he would
tell stories how at night when he would

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go to sleep, that these pigs
would come and get him, and it

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was it was the lady who was
in love with him, and then and

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her little covein Wow, and they
would go like and chase him, like

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chase him and like they're the pigs
and they're chasing him around at it and

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he's like, these are the dreams
I had. And then he would like

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wake up every day with like dirt
and exhausted and all crazy stuff. Oh

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well, oh my god, I
have to I had to get the story.

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But yeah, they would turn into
pigs. What happened to my uncle

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was then one of the pigs kept
on bugging him and he went out in

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the night with and he was like, I'm gonna get her, and the

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pig came running behind him. My
uncle cut her, well, cut her

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up, and the next day there
was a huge thing in the village.

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There was a woman there was really
badly hurt, and of course again they

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knew now that she was the witch. Oh my god. Wow, I

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wonder what would happen if, like, because I mean obviously people eat you

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know, if you like accidentally yeah, cooked one of them, like oh

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barbecue time, like what they turned
into a person? Wait, isn't that

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isn't that's the reason that I'm sorry, I'm not very sure about this,

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but Muslims don't need pigs because somewhere
in scripture it talks about humans turning into

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into pigs. Oh is that the
reason? I've never heard that. Yeah,

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I'm not sure about that. But
it isn't like human human meat similar

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to pig meat something like that.
People who've who've tried human meat say it's

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like similar. I don't know.
I don't know. Yeah, I wonder,

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not not that I would try it, but yeah. Interesting. Okay,

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Well, before you tell us about
Lasianava encounter, I do quickly just

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want to remind everyone of the legend, just because it was forever ago.

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I mean, this is what episode
one hundred twenty something and episode one is

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where we talked about the actual legend. So most of the variations of the

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legend are very similar. Is mostly
a Central American legend. I honestly have

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not heard of it in Mexico,
but when I talked about I talked about

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it on TikTok. And there is
a horse lady in like the Wahaka area

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I've heard, but she has a
different name. It's not Laua. It

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doesn't have the same backstory. So
there is a horse faced lady there,

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but again it's not La So I'm
pretty sure this is only like Gates.

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I think it's like more known as
La Segua, but I think most of

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the like, most of it is
the same. So according to a legend,

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there was a woman. Her name
was Steva Wet, which means beautiful

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woman. She used her charms and
with the help of a bruka, she

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had the prince Yay soon marry her. And then she was like, I

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don't know, I don't know if
it was like a princess or because he

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was I think he was like a
prince or something. Anyway, he soon

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went to war and then see what
wedd was like a bad wife and during

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this time she had affairs. At
one point she had her son, Elcipitio,

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and she was not a good mom. She did not take care of

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Cio. She was busy being with
all these other men, apparently in according

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to legend, and then jay Soon
returns. When jay Soon returns, she

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has like some plan where she's gonna
like kill Jayson or have him killed and

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then she's going to be like queen
or something. This doesn't go well,

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so she she has this poison.
There's like some festival thing, and jay

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Soon drinks this poison during this festival
and then he turns into like this giant

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two headed monster kills a lot of
people at this like party or festival,

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and to punish her lack curses her
for for everything she just did, like

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cursing Jayson, being a terrible mom. He curses her to become Lassie when

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us. So now she's this hideous
woman who's going to roam the countryside.

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And lcpt or her son was cursed
at the same time, and so he

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used cursed to be like this little
boy forever his feet were turned backwards,

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his stomach was like distended, you
know when they get a big belly.

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Because yes, okay, she yeah, she roams the countryside, usually found

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by like a body of water,
and when men look at her. They're

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supposed to die. If they live, they're gonna go insane. She like

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lures people away. And then there's
like another version where I don't think they

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really talk about her trying to kill
jay Soon. She's this beautiful woman and

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then she's like a terrible mom and
she cheats on jay Soon when he's gone,

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and then that's why she's cursed by
God to become la curse at the

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same time. So that's how I
heard it. Did you know a different

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version? No, I had her
something to the first one, but I

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didn't know the extent of the story. Yeah, yeah, it's that's very

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interesting and it makes a lot of
sense because my dad said that she only

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appears to men that are Mukie viegos, and I was like, oh,

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that makes so much sense. Oh
and then hold on, there was like

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one more thing about the legend.
Yes, she's so she's cursed to wander

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the countryside praying on or you know
what's a good I wrote man horror.

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When I first wrote this, I'm
like trying to think a way to put

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it, but I can't. So, yeah, she prays on on unslus

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man. Yeah, yeah, and
she often appears beautiful when men see her,

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and like she has like a gown, she's brushing her hair, and

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she lures them to follow her.
There's I think in the version in oh

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Okay, I guess before you get
into your the actual encounter. The Guatemalan

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version of the legend is a little
different. She's forced to marry a man

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that's forty years older than her and
then she's like not good to him or

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something, and that man curses her
into becoming Las Guava. That's one version

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in Guatemala. And then in order
to save yourself from Las Guanaba, men

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have to bite their cross or like
a medaya with like a little cross,

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or or pull her hair and say
three times, what is that you're now

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leaving crab grass Maria three times?
Or bite their yes is another one that

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I've that I found And then this
was like super funny to me, and

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I think we like laugh so much
when we first heard this, MJ.

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But if you're like running from her
and she's running after you, you can

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hear her because her boobs are happing
together you're running, and I mean,

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she's she's a mom and I guess
she just has, you know, get

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affected by gravity. Yeah, changed
after you know, becoming a mom.

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So that's and and when you find
drawings of Leslie, her boobs are are

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dragging, like oh wow. That's
a pretty consistent thing about Leslie Guava is

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that she has these huge, dragging
boobs and very similar to other stories of

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you know, women luring men.
Women are to be feared, they're vengeful.

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It's like Laurona from on Buddhas.
There's so many of these different lady

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in white versions across the world.
This is universal that there's like this woman

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entity after luring men to their deaths. Yeah wow. And so yeah,

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I guess that was like a very
brief, brief version of the legend.

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But yeah, tell us tell us
about your your dad. So that was

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very interesting because that's a huge thing
of in Guatemala, like if you come

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across the paranormare thing or happening,
you bite your machete. That's something my

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dad told me since I was a
kid, and I've always been fascinated and

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with the story that I'm a share
right now, it's never changed. I've

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heard the story of my whole life. I'm about two thirty nine and I

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swear this story. It's the same. It's never changed word by word.

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So this happened like what my dad
was born in the sixties, so he

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said he was little, So this
happened in the mid sixties in Guatemala.

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There was still not a latta like
running water, I think, no electricity,

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very campful like fields and farming and
forests and woods, very almost virgin,

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and I think that attracts a lot
of this activity right well, from

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what I believe. And my dad
said that him and his little brother there

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wasn't There was no money, but
there was food. The forest. The

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woods would provide wild vegetables and food, and the chickens would lay eggs,

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so there was something always to eat. And they were hungry, and they

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went to the back of their house, which was the forest, and they

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saw their mom and my grandma,
and they saw her. They're like,

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oh, she's They got so excited. They were like, she's cutting which

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is I muna say the longer story. She was cutting flastimo lastismoo. I

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might be saying that wrong, banana
bananas. And they were excited. They

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were like, oh, my god, we're so hungry. She's cutting this

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for us. And they started running
towards her. Because she did lure them.

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She was like, she turned and
she told them come here, bang

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bang, like come here, and
they were like, yeah, that's mom,

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so let's go. I don't know
how, but this always happened where

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like one of his older brothers caught
them mid air and they were like what

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and they're like, that's not mom. And I always wonder how my uncle's

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the oldest ones. There is something
they told me that there were some kind

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of protections on things that were passed
on to the oldest but not the youngest.

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So I think that's what he knew. And my uncle and my dad

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were like, whoa, who is
that then? And my uncle was like,

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that's not see one other. And
as soon as dad was said,

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they turned around and the woman that
looked like their mom turns horse face,

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Oh my god, black hair,
long black hair, and was like laughing.

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I don't know if you ever heard
of this, but she laughed really

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nasty, and they were like,
oh, hell no, they damned back

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home. And when they went inside
the house, they were like, my

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grandma. Actually, there's a huge
part of the story. She didn't go

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out at all that day because she
had a bad toothache, so she was

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resting and they asked her, were
you outside and she was like, how

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can I be outside? I have
a really bad toothache and I don't feel

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well. And they were like okay, and they didn't talk about it until

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later. Of course, kids being
curious, they went the next day.

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They spill see where this happened,
and they went out, and when they

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went out, they went accepted to
the spot where it happened. And what

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they saw, you know, how
she saw that they saw a woman cutting

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the bananas. The bananas were still
up in a tree. They were never

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cut. Oh my god, it
was like in like an illusion, like

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it never happened. Wow, oh
my god, Oh my god, that's

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terrifying. That is I forgot to
mention that. But yes, they say

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that she can change to take the
appearance of someone, you know, especially

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when it's like younger like kids,
they'll it'll look like their mom or even

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I've heard stories of like her looking
like someone's wife or some like, not

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as herself until their lord away and
then she turns into the horse face horrifying

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horse. But oh my god,
that's that's wild. And I actually have

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another story with Yeah, so it
is so true that this happened. I

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guess it does happen a lot in
the example side. That makes a lot

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of sense the countryside. My uncle
is the oldest from my dad's side.

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He said he was followed by her
a lot. Again, he was a

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no he loved women, and even
he was married and had kids. You

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know, he's he said that at
one time, in the middle of the

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night, they always were told don't
go out too late, and don't stay

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out too late because she'll get you, you know, And he didn't listen

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because he was drunk. And by
the time he woke up from whatever,

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he was like, oh my god, it's super late. It's like a

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midnight. And he was riding his
horse back home when he felt like something

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climbed in the back of the horse
and he was like he turns and he

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sees the hair like flopping around.
And this time it wasn't a beautiful woman.

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It was horse based one nava.
She was like, I'm not even

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gonna show. Yeah. She goes, she goes, I got you,

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and he starts hitting him and and
he's like, he's like, she's torturing

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him. And I don't know what
happens, but he falls off the horse

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and the next day he wakes up. He's tied up to a tree,

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but like tied up with like,
oh my god, like like really well

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with not a rope but some kind
of planted is really thick. But he's

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tied up oh like like twine,
I guess, and I think, yeah,

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and it's not I hope. So
and my his wife and kids were

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looking for him, and they found
them and they were like, what happened

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and you're tied up? And he's
like, yeah, you don't want to

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know. But later on she did. She did tell them like I was

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attacked by and she tied me up
like he was tied up. Oh my

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god, that's a wild wow wow. Yeah, because my I mean,

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my family a little but they grew
up like just right outside of sand So

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my my both my dad and my
uncle are like, oh no, yeah,

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she's only like a couple. The
only one that I have heard of,

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like people encountering in the city is
probably like the I don't know if

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I'm pretty sure that's the thing,
A big black dog. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, that's the that's the like
really the only one other than like

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other like random ghost stories or even
when this because my dad has one of

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the stories that he never like wants
to tell me. But oh yeah,

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that's yeah. Yeah, we're horrifying. Yeah but no, yeah, none

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of them have seen when our stories
and I'm like, damn, yeah,

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we because we could barely find any. Oh I think when we recorded that

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episode, we might have gotten one
or found one where someone said their dad

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was out in the in the fields
again an example, and or it might

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have been like a grandpa but he
like heard her approaching and then he like

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cussed her out. He's like,
I don't have time for this, and

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then she like just left. But
yeah, yeah, you know what,

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I'm sorry. I meant to say
something. My uncle actually was in shock

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after the encounter with He didn't speak
for like three days. Oh wow.

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Yeah, so I was like,
yeah that makes sense. They stay shock.

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Yeah yeah, and then they say, like some people never recover from

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that shock, and that's when they
say, oh, they lost their mind

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after that, and then they're like
never the same. Yeah. Wow,

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horrifying. I love that folklore because
you hear it and then you hear the

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actual stories from your like families or
friends, and you're like, oh,

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like it's true, Like yeah,
yeah, so interesting. We kept saying

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that she needs a hotline so that
we can Yeah, like what did that

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be? Awesome? Like? Hello, do you do you travel right?

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Can you come and say hi?
Oh my god. When I was little,

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I thought I heard like Aona in
the city of la Oh no,

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way, how I was little.
I think I was like seven and when

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people talk about Aarona. And then
finally I didn't hear stories about she's everywhere

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anytime, And I was like,
that's true because I was. I heard

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her and I woke up and I
was terrified. You know when you wake

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up when you're little, you're already
terrified. And I was like, what

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is daddy? And I heard her? She said she was just like,

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you know, like crying and whining
and like you hear the entity just going

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down the street. But you know
how they say you hear far away,

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she's closed. And when she's closed, she's far away. I'm going far

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away, and I knew I'm actually's
closed. She's by the window. Oh

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no, that's horrifying. Oh my
god. You know how they say it,

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don't move, don't say anything,
because she she will go on her

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way. And I'm like, I
was frosen in in my bed and I

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was like, don't not make a
move because she was no that you're here.

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Wow, that was so scary.
Oh my godh my god, that's

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horrifying. Yeah, we had she
she's I think she's been on our podcast.

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It has been twice or three times
now, but v she was just

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recently on our adendous episode and she
we had an episode on La Yorona like

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a while back too, and she
said that she would see her repeatedly in

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Arizona and like because I think her
grandparents lived by like a cemetery, and

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like once they saw her like from
Afar, like just like a woman in

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white, far away. But then
like after that time, she kept seeing

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her and like she would hear crying
and then like look in the hallway at

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school and then just see like within
the crowd of kids like La Yoona,

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just like in the middle, and
then she would disappear. And I'm like,

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that's horrifying that I wasn't. Oh
I wonder if you sensitive too,

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh
yeah, yeah. She was a medium

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for a long time. She's just
like I think she said she stopped doing

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it like two years ago because it
was like too much. But for a

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long time. She was like a
medium that like was helping people and things

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like that. But yeah, she's
very sensitive to all that. That's funny

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because I used to read hands and
help people and I stopped because people don't

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listen. People don't listen. I
could see that. Yeah. I was

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like, no, I can't do
this no more. It takes so much

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spiritually, it takes it drains you
because you're using that gift. That's what

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you know. Said yeah, yeah, so it makes sense. And I

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had certain people they will always come
from me to me and they just didn't

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listen. They were like and I
was like, I can't do this no

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more. I'm like I can't.
I need a break. Yeah yeah,

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I saw this before on our episodes. But my great grandma would go to

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brucast like curse have them curs people
that she hated. She had like a

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list like like a black oh my
god people. But she would take my

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mom with her during her trips and
these blue casts will tell my mom like,

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oh, you have the gifts,
like you can use this, and

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my mom was like no, no, But I'm pretty sure if she if

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she was like open to it,
she could do it. But like me

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and my twin. I think we're
just like closed off, like because anytime

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anyone has stories like I don't hear, I don't. It could be in

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the same room and I'm like,
that happened. I had no idea.

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Yes, yeah I have. She's
a guest on oh what do we call

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her, MJ? The unofficial official
guest co host. Yes, so when

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MJ's out usually she covers for MJ. So she's on the on some episodes.

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Because I have a twin, Oh
my god, identical. No,

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oh oh, you guys are not
real. Yeah, wow wild that's also

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o man. Yeah, but we
we've never seen anything, and even in

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Mexico, we have a thea that
like we went to her house, and

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her house supposedly things happen, Like
I think one of my cousins sees like

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this, not I don't think it's
ever been seen outside of the walls,

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but this like big black shadow,
Like they'll walk into a room and then

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like there's just like a big black
shadow that looks big and tall. I'm

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like, like, I guess maybe, like I don't think it's the hat

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Man, but just a really tall
shadow figure in the walls, Like it

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looks like it's going to grab them
and then it just disappears. And they

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said that I've never seen it because
yeah, I don't see anything. But

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where she lives, my thea would
like people ride the bus like regularly over

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there, and so she would it
was like it was like the last bus,

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but on her way, like from
the bus stops to her house.

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She said she heard like Jona and
she's like, oh no, I'm running

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it. She like just like boot
into her house. But yeah, I've

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never heard or seen, yeah anything. And I'm gonnaful because like I said

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this a bunch of times, but
I would literally die on the SPA.

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I would, like I said,
I would, I would be done in

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that yes, in that order.
Yeah, then they would just find me

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and the pile together. It'd be
bad. Oh my god. Yeah,

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being a seer or whatever. It's
not the funnest thing. No, it

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much for doing that. If you
guys want to hear about when I was

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a kid again, yes, So
my cousins had just arrived from Guatemala and

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it was a huge party in my
family. They were so happy because they

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were teenagers and they were going to
start on the whole new life here in

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the USA. So it was a
happy occasion. So that night I was

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asleep and I was awoken because my
room got cold, and I was like,

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and then I started hearing somebody praying, but I wasn't praying. It

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was Sama prestando because I could hear
the Virgin Mary being mentioned and all this

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stuff. And I was like,
oh, so that's like, I'm like,

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somebody's presando. And I thought I
was my cousin because my cousin I

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knew they were Catholic. And I
was like, oh it did ask her

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or Hendry, you know, do
they come here to sleep over? And

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they didn't tell us. But then
I realized that it wasn't Spanish, it

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was Latin, and I was like
God, I was like, oh,

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I'm like and then I heard the
voice getting closer to me. No,

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have you ever seen the Mark once
the movie? Yes, so you know

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she towards the end, when Jesse
gets take over by the demon, you

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hear in the basement, you hear
the big steps bomb, bomb, bomb,

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and then you see him as Jesse. Okay, So I started hearing

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those steps from fun like I'm coming
close to my bed and I was like

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seven or eight because I was a
kid, and I was in my bump

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it. I was in the bottom
bumpet and it stopped right next to me.

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I could feel the Russia there and
I was like, oh from when,

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like someone's moving and then they stopped
moving and there's like a like a

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brand no, and I closed my
eyes and I wasn't moving. I was

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like, I'm not gonna move and
it's nothing, it's nothing. And then

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I felt huge chance go under my
pillow, but if they wanted to close

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it. And when I felt that, I screamed my parents simid money.

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They were like, it's just a
dream, but I kept on insisting I'm

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awake. I was never asleep.
Let something woke me up, and they

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were like no, no, no. But then again later on, I

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00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:36.559
could hear my mom calling Guatemala to
my Christian grandma and Guatemala to pray for

407
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:40.880
me. That I was that I
was, You're like that they believed you,

408
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:42.880
but they wanted to like hide up
to like maybe calm you down.

409
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:48.200
Oh that's so scary. Oh my
god, terrified. I'll never forget that.

410
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:51.480
Yeah, it is so hard.
It's funny because it's so hard for

411
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:55.119
me to talk about it because it
was it was so real it happened.

412
00:31:55.759 --> 00:32:00.359
Oh yeah, yeah, Oh my
god. Wow. It's like those stories

413
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:04.880
like people, not me, but
other people have like that. They'll be

414
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:09.039
like in bed and then they either
see the bed sink or feel like someone

415
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:13.799
got on the bed and then they
can see it going down but nobody's there.

416
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:17.240
Those are like so horrifying to me. Uh no, I again,

417
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:23.480
I would just h that's why I
don't see anything. Oh that's horrible.

418
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:28.079
The one time I have like heard
something, and I've also said it on

419
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:31.279
here multiple times, but I was
with my mom and we were going to

420
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:37.400
Burlington co Factory and I don't know
what it is with that Burlington co Factory

421
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:42.160
because later my brother was like,
there's like a weird energy there and he

422
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:47.960
sees things too, like my mom. He always apparently I don't know of

423
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.400
them. That one is, yeah, and my mom we were in the

424
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.920
store ones she was like, I
don't I don't like the energy here,

425
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:59.119
like let's go. It's weird,
like there's there's a weird vibe. And

426
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:02.359
I was like, oh, but
that same store before those before my brother

427
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:07.400
and her said something. We were
walking into the store and like right right,

428
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:09.599
we were leaving the car and no
one was near us. It was

429
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:13.200
like a I don't know, cold, like winter morning. It was so

430
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:16.079
empty and it was early. They
had just opened, so we were like

431
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:20.119
stopping there to get a present on
our way to like a party, because

432
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:23.359
we do everything last minute. Yeah, and so I didn't have any presents,

433
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:25.920
right, and so that's why we
were there. Actually, I think

434
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.519
we were doing very last minute Christmas
shopping and we were just there when they

435
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:31.480
opened and nobody was there yet.
So we got out of the car and

436
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:36.759
I heard like a little laugh,
like a kid laugh by my ear,

437
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:39.519
and then I immediately screamed and a
mom my mom was like, oh my

438
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:43.359
god, like calm down. It
was like I heard it too, like

439
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:45.279
just whatever, just keep balking,
And I was like, what do you

440
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:49.960
mean, what do you mean calm
down? Nike in and I was just

441
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:53.000
freaking out in the park and now
she's like, I wasn't gonna say anything

442
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:58.720
because you're over here being ext like
just whatever. It's like it's just passing

443
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.000
by, like it's really it's whatever. And I was like, no,

444
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:09.320
it's yeah, that's what she said. Yeah. I was literally dying about

445
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:15.719
to throw up. Like and then
some people were leaving because Targets like two

446
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:20.199
stores over. Some people were probably
leaving Target and just their car was by

447
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.119
ours, but they weren't that close
to us. After after this, I

448
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:25.280
was already like calming down, and
then one of them was like singing to

449
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:28.920
the other one, these two ladies. And then when I heard them sing,

450
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:31.679
I like screamed again because I hadn't
seen them. And then my mom

451
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:36.079
was like if they're just walking and
then they were like laughing, and I

452
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:38.679
was like, oh, I'm sorry. I was just startled. Those were

453
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:43.920
actual people. But yeah again,
but yeah, and that's like the one

454
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:46.639
time I actually heard something and yeah, like I said, I I was

455
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.880
I annoyed my mom because I was
scared and I was like, Mom,

456
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:54.519
again, you just be there for
me. And it was this was like

457
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:58.480
two years ago. It wasn't I
was not like a child. It was

458
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:05.599
literally two years ago. This is
what I'm saying. I love these stories.

459
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:12.079
I'm a sucking waity like it just
happened. Oh my lord, yeah

460
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:14.519
this is this is recent, like
two years ago. But this is why

461
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:16.840
I'm saying. That's why I don't
see anything, because I would yeah.

462
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:22.079
No, yeah, I was almost
throwing up and I was like, oh

463
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:25.039
my god, what was that.
My mom was like, yeah, like

464
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:30.960
stop, you're embarrassing me, Like, shut up, we're embarrassing Okay,

465
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:39.320
yeah seriously, wow, oh man, yeah it was. It's funny now,

466
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:42.800
but I'm just glad that I was
the only time I ever heard anything

467
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:49.760
I couldn't imagine. No, yeah, it's very scary. It is not

468
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.519
the best. I mean, they
used to pull my hair all the time

469
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:54.480
when I was a kid, and
that was scary. That sounds horrible.

470
00:35:55.440 --> 00:36:00.119
That used to happened to MJ two. Oh really when you said when you

471
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.559
were pregnant, yeah, I would
when I when I'm pregnant. Both times,

472
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:07.480
whenever I'm pregnant, I feel like
my like you know when you have

473
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:10.679
a toddler, and like they try
to grab your attention and sometimes they pull

474
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:15.239
on your hair. Yeah, like
that all the time, and I would

475
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:19.159
feel little hands on, like trying
to get my intention all the time.

476
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:22.679
And then I was told that because
like when you're you're pregnant, you have

477
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:28.119
that like really strong mom energy and
there's like, you know, whether it

478
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:32.559
is like restless spirits or something else, but that's looking for that maternal figure

479
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:37.360
that mom has sense per se,
like someone to take care of them,

480
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.920
and they like search and like want
you to be kind of like their mom

481
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:46.960
figures, so they like they try
to grab your attention, which is sad

482
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:51.679
but also scary. Yeah. No, I just had a lot of nightmares

483
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:54.360
when I was pregnant. And it's
funny because the doctor told me, oh,

484
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:57.280
you're gonna have a lot of nightmares, and I was like, how

485
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:00.639
is that normal? Like, yeah, I nightmares too. I had a

486
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:04.800
lot of nightmares too, But for
me, a lot of it was like

487
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:08.480
I would be in the kitchen or
doing something and I would feel little hands

488
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:12.519
on me, like a little like
like a little toddler trying to grab my

489
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.519
attention. And the second pregnancy was
weird because like my son was like four

490
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:20.119
years old, so he was already
pretty pretty big, and he didn't like,

491
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:23.000
you know, he didn't he spoke
and he didn't grab my attention that

492
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:27.159
way, and sometimes would be like
like, like, do you need my

493
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:30.000
attention? I turned back and then
nothing, there would be nothing. I'd

494
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:34.320
be like, oh, and then
I'd see like my son sitting out like

495
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:38.039
across the way somewhere else. It
wasn't him. Yeah, I was like

496
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:42.800
I just die a little bit inside. You know. I was like,

497
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.599
I pregnant. I could only wobble, but you know, it's fine.

498
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:52.000
I can't run, It's fine.
That's so weird because I was told about

499
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.960
vivid dreams when you're pregnant, and
I didn't have vivid dreams, but never

500
00:37:55.159 --> 00:38:00.199
nightmares except that time we were talking
about the white teoble. Yeah, that

501
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:02.679
was crazy. What is that?
That was wild? Oh? Have you

502
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:07.360
not? This is a legend from
Yucatan in Mexico, and it's like a

503
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:13.400
shape shifting. I guess it's similar
to in a while or like a like

504
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:16.840
a bruho that shape shifts, but
this is specifically called there's like a white

505
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:22.159
chievo. There's a white back.
But it's basically like either half man half

506
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:28.559
goat, half man, half cat, half man half dog. And they're

507
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:32.360
only in the Yucatan and there's like
even a saying that's like be careful walking

508
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:39.199
around midnight because the white chiebo is
roaming like and they're like supposed, like

509
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:44.880
according to legend, very evil and
like they say that if you look at

510
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:50.360
when you're you would get sick and
then like you can die. Oh and

511
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:55.920
we we covered it. It was
like episode four when we were when we

512
00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:00.239
were researching, we both I think
we both had really like horrible dreams like

513
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:06.679
mine and I've never had such a
vivid dream that felt so real like ever,

514
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:08.559
and it was horrifying, like we
were in my house and in my

515
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:15.800
dream we were sleeping and then suddenly
like the door like ripped open and someone

516
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:17.559
like came in and they had a
gun. And then I was trying to

517
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:21.840
wake my husband up in the dream
like like go get our gun, like

518
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:23.760
someone's in the house. And he
went and wake up, which is like

519
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:29.119
very realistic that he bitch sleep through
everything and I'm like, wake up,

520
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:34.800
We're gonna die. And then yeah, so he like eventually he got up

521
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:36.559
like oh my god, what's happening. I was like, get the gun.

522
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:38.880
There's someone here, and then like
he was about to grab it and

523
00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:44.480
then like someone just like shot him
in the dream. And then like then

524
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:49.440
I felt like at that moment,
I felt like something hit me at the

525
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:52.679
same time. And then like I
don't know if I like imagined it,

526
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:58.239
but like I heard like, oh
we we we have you now, oh,

527
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:01.159
like in a deep voice, and
I think I forgot to say this

528
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:05.239
part. I think I plucked it
out of my memory, honestly, but

529
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:07.679
it was like oh, and it
was in Spanish and it was like,

530
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:14.599
oh you you wanted to like,
oh you wanted this, we have you

531
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:19.440
now. It was like so loud, and I woke up and I was

532
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:22.480
like cold, like sweating. I
was and cold and like I touched my

533
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.039
skin and I was like, yeah, it was like cold sweat, and

534
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:30.480
I was like I felt like my
heart was like raising and I was like,

535
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:32.199
oh my god. Then I woke
Then I did wake my husband up,

536
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:35.920
and I was like I just had
a terrible dream. And I was

537
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:40.000
like crying and I was like,
you die. But I've never felt so

538
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:45.360
I've never felt like like a bang
like that like in my dream, like

539
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:51.079
it was it was horrifying. M
it was yeah, And then me and

540
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:54.199
my kids, both my kids were
having nightmare of that entire week scary.

541
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:59.519
I mean yeah, and it was
like the same night that you had for

542
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.000
me. Me and you had a
nightmare the same night. But my kids

543
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:06.519
were having nightmares. I was having
well, I mean I tend to have

544
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:09.719
nightmares, not all the time.
It's like not as much as when I

545
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:15.119
was like, I don't I do
well, not all the time, but

546
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:17.159
there was a point in time when
it was like, Okay, I have

547
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:22.960
another nightmare. This time. It
had been a long long time since I

548
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:28.039
had like night terrors, and my
kids never have them. For some reason,

549
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:30.000
that week, it was just nightmare
after nightmare for my kids. And

550
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:36.239
then the one day I had a
nightmare was the night that Christina also had

551
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:38.880
a nightmare, which also the I
think it was either that day or the

552
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:43.480
day before because I lived in an
apartment in the second second story, so

553
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:47.440
you know, we're pretty high up. And me, my mom, and

554
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:51.960
my kids were in the kitchen.
I was making I can't remember what,

555
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:54.440
but like we had the family or
family over, or we were going to

556
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:59.760
have the family over, and we
were cooking in the kitchen and then the

557
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:04.039
next thing you know, it's like
banging on on the wall, like on

558
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:07.559
the outside of my apartment and it's
like, we can't do that. We

559
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:10.960
live, you know, on the
second floor, and and it was just

560
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:15.840
banging, like like pounding, like
knocking, like somebody trying to get in

561
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:19.360
through the wall. It was weird. And then we had what else,

562
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:25.079
stuff falling from my bookshelf. It
was crazy, that was and then we

563
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:29.079
finished the episode and then it went
back to normal. It was weird.

564
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:34.480
Yeah, yeah, it was so
weird. And then m found out like,

565
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.719
you, if you have like a
connection to Yukadan, this thing can

566
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:43.239
like haunt you. She does,
Yeah, I do my aunt and she

567
00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:45.639
does. Yeah, my aunt is
from the Yukatan. She's uh my in

568
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:51.440
descent yea, and yeah, her
her whole family is over there. She's

569
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:54.079
my my aunt by marriage, but
like the familiar connection. She's been in

570
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:57.599
my life since I was a little
kid. So she's like, you know,

571
00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.920
she's family and yeah, and I
do know that a few of her

572
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:07.679
relatives are you know practice Oh and
I found that out like not not too

573
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.679
long ago, and I was like
that was crazy. Yeah, that was

574
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:14.079
like the worst time ever. I
was like I'm never looking at Yeah,

575
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:16.159
we're like we're never looking this up
again. I haven't I have never looked

576
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:22.079
for stories again. I will tell
I'll say what it is if someone asks.

577
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:24.440
But I'm like, I'm never writing
notes on this. I'm not looking

578
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:28.760
this up on the internet like I'm
no, this is like, no,

579
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:34.039
it's a dead topic. Yes,
how interesting? Never again? Yeah,

580
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:37.719
yeah. You know what's funny you
mentioned dreams and like all that stuff.

581
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:43.039
It's funny because a couple of years
ago I heard that people were starting to

582
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:49.119
you know how that there's there's apps
that record you while you sleep to manage

583
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:52.800
you're snoring, or we're having some
kind of issues all that, or we're

584
00:43:52.880 --> 00:44:00.960
dreaming too much. People started capturing
voices so I can't want to see it

585
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:06.519
now. And there was a story
I heard that this lady kept on hearing

586
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:12.480
a voice talking to her and stuff
like what you just said, I might

587
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:15.519
get you or something getting you.
And I was like, oh my god,

588
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:20.239
it was me on that story.
And when I heard it, it

589
00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:23.000
was like a true crime thing.
And they didn't want to talk about it

590
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:29.239
so much because it kind of became
like a paranormal subject. And I was

591
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:31.079
like, I was interested. I
was like what, I was like,

592
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:35.960
that is crazy, tell me more. I'd be wanting to get that app

593
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:38.119
to manage my sleep because I used
to have issue sleeping. But then I

594
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:42.320
was like, I don't want to
hear a freaking voice, you know,

595
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:46.719
talking to me like no, thank
you. I just yeah, I'd rather

596
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:53.639
live in blissful parents. I might
do it because because I see it well,

597
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:58.079
like come come autumn, because you
know, like I always like start

598
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:04.119
up seeing the shadow people. Well
between like the fall and in winter,

599
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:07.400
that's the time where I see them
the most. So maybe like during October,

600
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:09.159
Yes, all the time. I
see them all. Let me and

601
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:13.159
my kids see them all the time. And we've had people who don't even

602
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:15.280
see they're like, what the hell
is downs like, don't worry, It's

603
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:19.800
just it's Philip people. Oh my
god, we named it. We named

604
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.280
it it called And I always like, you know what, Philip, if

605
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:25.199
anything else tried to haunt me,
you have to duke it out. Okay,

606
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:29.800
you gotta you gotta claim your territory. You're allowed anything else. No,

607
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:34.880
like you you fight whatever else is
around here, but only you do

608
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:38.159
You only see them in your house? Yeah, well anywhere. I've seen

609
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:43.760
them throughout my entire well, since
my teens, since my euteens because my

610
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:47.679
first experience was a shadow person was
with the hat Man and I was like

611
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:52.159
fifteen, and it was like in
my you know, I was in high

612
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:55.920
school. I remember, I you
know, the thing I remember the most.

613
00:45:55.920 --> 00:46:01.119
It was a school night, and
then I had just finished doing homework

614
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:04.559
and I don't know how long it
was asleep, but I remember I fell

615
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:09.239
asleep and and I had forgotten to
turn off my what is those slam spit

616
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:14.039
for like doing homework, like table
lamps, table lamps, and I forgot

617
00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:16.480
to turn off my table lamps.
So it wasn't like the big light on,

618
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:21.519
but it was a light on.
And I woke up and I can't

619
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:23.920
I don't know what time of the
night it was because it was I don't

620
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:27.880
even know how long I was asleep. And then I see this weird like

621
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:35.000
shadow person leaning on the door or
what I perceived as as leaning, and

622
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:39.440
it was wearing like a like a
nineteen was it nineteen twenties a zoot suit

623
00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:47.639
with had a gangster I haven't had
a gangster shadow. And then and then

624
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:51.880
I was like, that's a weird
shadow. It looks like a person.

625
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:53.920
The next thing I know, I
just went back to sleep. I was

626
00:46:53.960 --> 00:47:00.400
like, okay, I'm done.
Like that's yeah, okay, whatever,

627
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:02.840
you're you're weird, but you're fine. I'm going back to bed. But

628
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:06.400
that's how usually what's it called?
Even when I see it at night,

629
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:10.840
like a lot of the times they
see a shadow person, like yeah,

630
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:14.639
you know, when it's dark and
everything, all you have it's like the

631
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:20.360
outdoor light from either the moon or
whatever outdoor source, and I just see

632
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:24.119
it and then I'm like okay,
and then I go back that I was

633
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:29.960
about to tell you, like,
oh, you have an attachment. Yeah,

634
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.559
maybe it's fine, but yeah,
probably, But I'm like, you

635
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:36.199
know what, as long as he
keeps the other stuff at me, I

636
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:39.760
don't care, Like I like,
protect me from everything else. Okay.

637
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:44.519
Just at first, when I asked
you about your house, I was like,

638
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:46.960
oh, I wonder if it's your
house spirits. I don't know if

639
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:51.119
it was a house spirit. It
followed me from that house, but that

640
00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:55.719
house that where I had my first
shadow person encounter. That house had bad

641
00:47:55.840 --> 00:48:00.239
energy. You would hear someone on
the roof all the time, and you'd

642
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:05.400
go outside and there's nobody. You
would see shadow people in the backyard and

643
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:08.280
then you'd go open, because like
it was just me and my parents would

644
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:12.559
work all the time, so I
would be home alone the most. And

645
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.719
my brother while he lived there,
he was partying life at the time,

646
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:21.239
so he would, you know,
come in and out. And sometimes I

647
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:25.960
didn't know who was at home,
and I would see like someone in the

648
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:30.880
backyard or in the side of the
house, and I would see like their

649
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:35.480
their outlined. But then when you
would go and be like, oh,

650
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:37.920
maybe it's my brother or maybe it's
my dad or something, nobody was there.

651
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:45.280
And then that house just had so
much negative energy. I don't know

652
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:50.880
what it was like. We would
hear people's voices of like family members,

653
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:54.800
Like there was this one time we
heard my dad and my uncle's voice coming

654
00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:59.239
from the house when we were outside
barbecuing, and then my mom was like,

655
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:02.039
she's my mom sends me inside to
see what's up, and I'm like,

656
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:05.920
they're not here, And then my
mom calls my dad and my uncle

657
00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:08.159
and they're still up the store.
So this this this house that I was

658
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:12.440
living at the time when I was
in high school, that it was just

659
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:19.480
it was messed up. And then
something like mimicking yea of someone else that's

660
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:22.880
like bad. That's yeah, because
like you'll see maybe sometimes some houses you'll

661
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:27.400
see something, but it's not a
bad like it's just something that this sounds

662
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:30.239
like getting through. But I think, yeah, when you hear like mimicking

663
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:34.960
and I'm like, oh no,
And then you would here at night because

664
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:43.159
my bedroom was like my parents' bedroom
where it was it led into the kitchen,

665
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:47.559
but my bedroom led into the living
room, and the living room was

666
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:53.559
hardwood floor, like old school hardwood
floor, and you would hear these like

667
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:58.760
boots, like men's boots, you
know, like the work boots stomping,

668
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:00.599
the phone ringing, and somebody pick
up and say hello, Oh no,

669
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:04.800
it was like a dude, I
reason, and I'm like, that's weird,

670
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.440
that's weird. That's weird. I'm
too tired. I'm going to bed.

671
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:13.199
That's like my like, I don't
have time for this. I'm too

672
00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:20.239
tired. I'm going to bed.
I'm gonna dis associate now. Oh no.

673
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:23.400
You know that's one thing, like
I'd never see anything, rarely hear

674
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:27.280
anything. But I think energy is
like the one thing that I'm like,

675
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:32.920
it feels heavier here, or it
feels weird and cold and heavy. That

676
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:37.400
I will. I do feel like
my brother's room always feel colder and just

677
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:42.960
I don't like being in here.
And then I've said this as well,

678
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:45.960
but like my where my grandma lives
in Mexico, people here on marble falling

679
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:51.199
down the stairs, and and one
of my cousins saw like a like a

680
00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:52.679
I want to say, it was
like the size of a three or four

681
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:57.840
year old crouching down. You know
how people crouched down to I hit on

682
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:01.039
marble. Yeah, he saw that
agre in the back not a backyard because

683
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:05.239
nobody has backyards there. It was
like a it's all small, like batio.

684
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:10.519
It has like just a place to
hang clothes and a washer and then

685
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:15.559
that's it. That's all that's back
there. But upstairs is where the marble

686
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:16.880
comes around. Man, upstairs it
always felt like I was like, I

687
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:22.239
don't like being up there. It
feels cold, and it's just it's weird.

688
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:24.239
It's a weird place. So I
know I will not go upstairs at

689
00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:29.239
all ever in that house. Yeah, And I'm like, I didn't know

690
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:32.519
until I heard the story about the
marble, and I was like, oh

691
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:37.000
my god, is that why I
didn't want to go up there? But

692
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:39.280
I did, because when we first
went to Mexico we were like eight,

693
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:43.159
and then again when we were twelve, and then I went again when I

694
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:46.480
was like what like seven years ago
now, and every time I'm like,

695
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:50.639
I do not go up there,
but I never knew why. And then

696
00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:54.079
this last time recently that I was
there two years ago now, but I

697
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:58.800
was it a year ago. I
remember when I went last. Oh wait,

698
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:00.320
no, it was recent. It
was recent, more recent because my

699
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:04.800
two kids were already there because they
were there was That's how I could tell

700
00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:07.800
time now, So yeah, they
were there, and I still I don't

701
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:09.920
go upstairs. But that's when I
already I finally knew about my marble because

702
00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:14.480
I had nobody told me until the
last time that I went over there.

703
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:16.559
My mom told me, Yeah,
they knew because I went and set foot

704
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:22.639
in the house. But they still
so and they haven't heard the marble again.

705
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:28.880
It was his friends. Maybe I
don't know, yeah, maybe he's

706
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:31.400
like, Okay, he's not here
anymore. We're together now, Yeah,

707
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:36.119
we can move on. I don't
know. Yeah, but nobody knows,

708
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:39.320
like what this thing could have been, who who could have been if it

709
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:45.519
was an actual child, like because
nobody knows the house, yeah, instead

710
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:47.559
of something else, right, but
the house, the house was built there,

711
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:51.800
it wasn't there before, so I
don't know, like nobody knows.

712
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.440
There's no story behind it. But
yeah, nobody hears it. So I

713
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:59.039
can go and not be scared.
But I still won't go up stairs.

714
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:04.440
That's scary. Yeah, yeah,
something about a marble. Just I was

715
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:06.800
so scared that I was going to
hear it too. I was like,

716
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:10.960
because the stairs go up and then
there's there's a room and like a little

717
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:15.320
window in the room and you can
see the stairs behind you and when and

718
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:19.920
the bed is against the wall and
the windows like right by your head.

719
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:22.679
And I was like laying down on
the got it there? And I hear

720
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:24.840
them marble. I better and I
hear them marble. Yeah. I'm almost

721
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:28.119
like, you're not gonna You're not
gonna hear it. No one's heard it.

722
00:53:28.519 --> 00:53:31.599
I'm like, oh, you're like
yes, yeah. I felt safe.

723
00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:36.840
Then it came up to me,
right now, is I live in

724
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:40.920
Victorian building? One of the originals
were reaching the Victorian buildings in Mela.

725
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:47.679
So it was built in nineteen twenty
two and it's very old, very very

726
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:52.599
old. We have issues with a
lot of plumbing, electricity and whatever,

727
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:57.639
all that good stuff. But it
has history. I think at one point

728
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:02.920
they told us that it was a
house for elderly people and they would pass

729
00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:07.760
away. So and I had we
moved from an apartment down the hall.

730
00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:12.239
We live in the front now,
but back when we used to live down

731
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.639
the hall, a lot of bad
things happened to us there. That's where

732
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:21.280
the pulling of the hair that your
ownA They will throw stuff in the middle

733
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:23.800
of the night, and my mom, being Christian, always told me ignore

734
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:28.559
it, ignore it nothing. And
I was like, it is, it

735
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:31.440
is not nothing, It's like something's
happening. But she didn't want to talk

736
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:37.480
about it, you know, in
the night, which is a typical thing

737
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:42.039
that I see now and here now
is it's it's becausea sound funny, But

738
00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:45.480
I did. I did hear chains, you know, when when somebody's walking

739
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:51.840
the chains. I was growing up, I will always think about it.

740
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:54.800
I go, who's walking with chains? And they wanted to get up and

741
00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:59.639
see, but my dad always say, you don't want to see. Maybe

742
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:05.000
what's pulling the chains? You know? Yes, yes, oh my god,

743
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:10.440
that's so scary. And I always
tell my friends that it's down the

744
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:15.440
hall. Down the hall is where
you feel the more paranormal activity than towards

745
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:19.199
the front of the building. I
don't know, but I think maybe it's

746
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:22.480
because there was a death in the
back or something. Yeah, something.

747
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:27.320
And there was a lady in white
in the in the basement for a long

748
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:30.280
time. I never saw her.
My sister never saw her, and she

749
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:32.760
used to do her. She used
to watch in the middle of the night

750
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:37.480
that she she liked that nobody was
around lunch. Yeah. Yeah, and

751
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:40.559
she was like, I never saw
anything, and I either, but we

752
00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:45.679
will always hear people say there's a
lady in white in the basement. Wow,

753
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:51.840
is this in Boil Heights. I'm
in downtown La. Okay, Okay,

754
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:54.760
okay, because there's there's a It
was an old hospital and then it

755
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:59.079
turned into an old home and I
think it's apartments now, but they say

756
00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:01.760
they're hunted and it's I think it's
somewhere in Boiled Hides. But I don't

757
00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:05.440
remember the name of the place,
but I'm like, this sounds familiar.

758
00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:09.559
I mean, yeah, mentioned the
hospital I used to work at that forever

759
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:15.639
twenty one in Beverly Center. And
I don't know if you guys heard,

760
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:21.079
but a guy an aligned himself in
the feeding room. Oh my god,

761
00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:23.320
I did not know. It was
around the time that I took some time

762
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:28.559
off because of my kid, so
I wasn't there when it happened. But

763
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:34.920
I did go back to work and
they closed down the feeding room and they

764
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:38.719
couldn't use it, but workers we
we could use it. We started using

765
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:45.360
it as a storage facility, and
me being spiritually, I would go in

766
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:49.320
and i would talk to him.
I'm like, hey, I'm gonna be

767
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:54.000
here. Don't not scare me.
The doors did close by themselves for no

768
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:57.679
reason. I mean, and those
you know, those feeding room doors are

769
00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:00.480
heavy and they're like you have to
manually close them, are opened them,

770
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:05.440
they would move my racks removed,
but I wasn't scared. One time,

771
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:07.920
it was six in the morning,
Me and my co worker we went into

772
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:12.840
work and I was doing something on
the ladder. So I was on top

773
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:16.159
of the ladder doing something on the
wall, and my coworker comes running and

774
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:21.480
she's like crying, and I'm like
what And I know that she was counting

775
00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:23.639
money, so I was like,
what happened? And she couldn't talk and

776
00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:27.280
she she's like a scary cat.
She was this little white girl and she

777
00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:30.880
was like, she's like me,
yeah, she was like she was like

778
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:34.400
I could tell. I'm like,
oh my god, I thought to myself.

779
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:37.360
Last to start, you know,
she said they scared her. Something

780
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:39.360
scared her, and she was like
she so she was pointing at the feeding

781
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:43.239
room and I go, oh my
god, and I go what happened?

782
00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:50.119
And I told her calm down,
and something from the wall just came flying

783
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:53.960
out like for no reason. Oh, and she was supposed to go his

784
00:57:54.079 --> 00:58:00.239
stare go and I was like stop, I go stop, I go oh

785
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:05.159
man, And then I was and
I was like, hey, you gotta

786
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:12.440
quit it. We hear you leave
us alone. And later on I got

787
00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:16.000
another person on TikTok was talking about
it, how the Beverly Center is very

788
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:20.920
hunted, and I'm like, I, yes, many, You're like,

789
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:23.840
I can corroborate. Yes, A
lot of creepy stuff happened to us there,

790
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:28.760
even before this guy, like things
who moved for them by themselves.

791
00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:32.320
You always hear people talking and there
was no one there, especially like in

792
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:36.639
the rooms were like the storage rooms. So I was like, yeah,

793
00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:43.920
that is very true. Wow,
scary Okay, whoa before we go,

794
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:47.199
first, thank you so much for
coming on. I was so excited to

795
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:51.840
hear your stories. And wow,
I'm very honored. Thank you so much

796
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:53.239
for having me. And I've been
a fan. I mean, when you

797
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:55.280
contact me, I was like,
no way. I was like, oh

798
00:58:55.280 --> 00:59:01.119
my god. Yeah. If I
say someone has like an amazing story,

799
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:06.159
I'm like, can you come on
the podcast please? Yeah. Yeah,

800
00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:08.079
We're not like like other podcasts are, like how many followers do you have?

801
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:12.519
Like, oh my god, my
story. I'm I want to hear

802
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:17.519
it. So I'm so glad I'm
building my following because I'm really excited and

803
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:22.599
I have found the community and on
TikTok. And when you contact me,

804
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:29.320
I was like, oh she saw
me, she saw me. Oh how

805
00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:34.400
funny. But every episode we give
a spooky recommendation. Anything movie. I

806
00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:37.159
mean it's usually a movie or a
show, but yeah, anything horror related.

807
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:43.679
Do you have any spooky recommendations right
now? There's a new season of

808
00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:46.599
What We Do in the Shadows?
Yes, Oh my god. The last

809
00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:52.800
the two new episodes were hilarious.
I was screaming, it is funny.

810
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:59.079
Yeah, I have to watch them
because I forgot to look and then I

811
00:59:59.119 --> 01:00:00.679
saw it said new and I was
like, no way, Oh my god,

812
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:07.320
did you go I'm the Guatemalan horror
movie Orona. Yeah, oh my

813
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:10.320
god. Yeah. I always talk
about that movie and I will die on

814
01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:15.320
that hill. I'm like, you
guys, it's so important for me personal

815
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:19.239
you know, so good. Oh
yes, yeah, and my dad and

816
01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:22.480
my that's a that's a really good
movie. It happened. They're like they

817
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:28.480
killed a lot of indigenous people.
M m yeah. Where did we?

818
01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:32.440
Oh? We did an episode with
Shaken Not Scared podcast. We talked about

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01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:37.599
the movie and I think I don't
remember who. Someone did mention a little

820
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:39.800
bit about what happened and how I
mean it was a real it was a

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01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:44.480
real massacre and it I mean,
yeah, I'm very real. I think

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01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:45.719
I was watching the movie. My
mom and dad were here, and my

823
01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:51.000
dad was like, oh my god, it's because she's in the piroom.

824
01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:57.280
Yeah, and then she's like this
uh activist, amazing woman. So yeah,

825
01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:00.599
if anyone has not seen the movie, it's on shutter. It's uh.

826
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:01.960
I mean, it's really good.
It's worth of work, beautiful.

827
01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:07.559
Yeah. Yeah. My my mom
was like that was too slow for me

828
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:12.639
because she needs like action packed.
But yeah, and I get it because

829
01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:15.840
there's people, but because it is
a slow burn and it's a subtle it's

830
01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:20.360
yeah, it was very unsteadily,
especially you know how she when she falls

831
01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:25.159
off of the her hair is you
see her? Oh my god? Yes,

832
01:01:25.559 --> 01:01:30.719
yeah. And then there's like little
science here and there of like oh,

833
01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:34.400
here's water, and then like the
sound. It's it's such a good

834
01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:37.880
movie that it just doesn't amazing.
I love her, I love her.

835
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:40.440
She's there. Oh my god.
Yeah, it was like she's the mom.

836
01:01:40.679 --> 01:01:46.039
Should I cover up right through me? I was so excited when they

837
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:51.800
cast her as the mom of that
Marble movie. They just came out,

838
01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:54.719
yeah, oh my god, I
name more yes, name no more?

839
01:01:55.880 --> 01:02:00.639
Yes, yes, because she's got
a malin And I was like, yes

840
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:04.639
she is. She is, yeah, so beautiful. Yeah, and she's

841
01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:07.000
so good. That's that's an amazing
movie. I'm sure to think if I

842
01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:14.679
have any speaker recommendations, but I
don't think I've seen anything recently. Have

843
01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:16.159
I been watching? What have I
even been doing? I don't know.

844
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:21.400
Look, im, Jake, do
you have any speaker recommendations? I have

845
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:27.360
right now? Like what's it called? Getting all my research well, I

846
01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:30.519
wouldn't say research, but I'm like
really into anything having to do with Oppenheimer

847
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:35.239
right now. For the movie.
Oh okay, I'm like, are you

848
01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:39.800
gonna Are you gonna do the Barbie
Oppenheimer Barbieheimer double feature? Like no,

849
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:44.000
I'm thinking I'm just gonna watch Oppenheimer, Like I want to watch Barbie.

850
01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:49.639
But then I'm like, my attention
span wouldn't never like Bobby. I'd rather

851
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:53.199
watch Barbie than Oppenheimer. It looks
fun, but it also looks like something

852
01:02:53.239 --> 01:02:58.000
i'd watch at home. Oh.
I don't know, we'll see, but

853
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:01.719
we for I'm for sure watching oppen
because I prefer those kinds of movies and

854
01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:07.960
like Barbie. Uh so it does
look interesting. And I did hear as

855
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:10.159
a Ken song and I'm like,
I might just go for the Ken song.

856
01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:16.719
Yes, but yeah, So I'm
like just researching and like listening to

857
01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:22.599
a lot of like Manhattan Project stuff, which to me is like real life

858
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:27.719
horror because I'm like, damn,
like the level of shit that went down

859
01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:30.760
with that. I mean, honestly, fuck the US for dropping the atomic

860
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:37.320
bomb. I watched a horrible documentary
years ago on the aftermath of everyone that

861
01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:43.119
lived there and the effects of the
bomb on everyone that like didn't pass away

862
01:03:43.360 --> 01:03:45.960
in the surrounding areas, and it's
wild and it's horrible, and I'm like,

863
01:03:46.039 --> 01:03:49.159
and a lot I think a lot
of people too, Like when they

864
01:03:49.159 --> 01:03:52.159
were dropping it over there, it
was in Nevada, a lot of people,

865
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:58.880
yes, ended up really sick.
So like it's it's like almost like

866
01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:00.280
the same thing as like an orange. They were like, hey, let's

867
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:04.719
just see what happens. Yeah,
and then and then it affects like they're

868
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:08.960
like, you know, the United
States citizens, like the people they're supposed

869
01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:13.400
to protect them, they're fucking over. Yeah, but that's what I'm into.

870
01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:15.960
Yeah. We did an episode on
my other podcast the story as are

871
01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:18.480
known. I think I was Zone
who covered it. But during World War

872
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:25.239
two and Puerto Rico, what Puerto
Rican soldiers were sent out to somewhere else

873
01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:28.800
was it? I don't think it
was Venezuela. It was like another Latin

874
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:32.639
American country and they were deployed over
THEIRS and they were tested experimented on with

875
01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:38.239
like agent orange and the effects of
it, but without their like consent,

876
01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:44.519
horrible horrible stuff and like it just
and then they weren't like compensated for it

877
01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:48.159
until like five years ago, and
many of the veterans have then like since

878
01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:51.400
then passed away, and it's like, why they weren't you paying for their

879
01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:56.320
healthcare? So many of them got
cancer from this. Yeah, horrible stuff,

880
01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:58.880
Yeah, the same thing, real
life horrors. Oh my god,

881
01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:02.519
that's horrible. Yeah, terrible,
terrible. Anyway, Yes, thank you

882
01:05:02.519 --> 01:05:06.719
so much for coming on. It
was so fun. Oh my gosh,

883
01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:11.360
do you want to tell everyone where
to find you on TikTok. It's a

884
01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:15.480
great tetok account and you need I'm
like, you need more. We need

885
01:05:15.519 --> 01:05:19.320
to get her to like I don't
know, so yes, tell us your

886
01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:24.519
handle and I'll link it in the
show notes too. So my TikTok is

887
01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:30.280
Graves b R A B E Z
three three three at TikTok and you can

888
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:38.920
find me on Instagram just took up
from with Castillo or Ruthie Escobar Graves eyes

889
01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:43.840
three three three and you'll find me. You'll find a little arts stuff and

890
01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:54.039
my personal and follow me anything spooky, creative, everything, paranormal. Yes,

891
01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:57.920
I mean, and that's what all
our listeners left. Yes, thank

892
01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:02.119
you so much, right in,
Yeah, thank you, And before we

893
01:06:02.239 --> 01:06:05.400
go, I forgot to announce it
and all the other episodes that we've done

894
01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:11.920
in this month, MJ. But
starting August first, I think every Monday

895
01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:15.239
we're gonna have one extra episode.
They're just super short episodes of like just

896
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:20.480
one short story and it's just one
like straight through narrative, not like both

897
01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:26.400
of us talking back and forth,
and there's like sound effects and a little

898
01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:29.679
bit of sound design. So and
they're like very short, like less than

899
01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:34.639
ten minutes, because I don't know
how to write long's. It's like a

900
01:06:34.679 --> 01:06:38.760
longer version of tik talk. Yeah, I'm excited for it. I have

901
01:06:38.920 --> 01:06:42.440
like four already recorded and ready to
go, and hopefully I don't fall behind.

902
01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:46.400
I might because you know it anyway. Yeah, but we'll see.

903
01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:49.360
Hopefully I keep it going because it's
been a lot of fun making the ones

904
01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:53.599
that I have made so far.
So yeah, if you want a short,

905
01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:56.840
you know, more serious story,
then tune in on Mondays and then

906
01:06:56.840 --> 01:07:00.440
our regular episodes are we friending us
always and yeah, Spooky, if you

907
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:03.280
see a beautiful woman in the middle
of the field, you'll leave her there,

908
01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:11.000
you don't follow her, okay,
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909
01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:21.480
everyone next time. Bye bye,
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910
01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:27.679
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911
01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:31.519
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926
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