June 28, 2024

The Doppelganger and More Ghost Stories With Candi Kaine

The Doppelganger and More Ghost Stories With Candi Kaine

Candi Kaine joins Carmen and Cristina on this episode to talk about her paranormal experiences, which include a very creepy doppenganger story and a shadow person. First, they read a listener story. 

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Candi Kaine joins Carmen and Cristina on this episode to talk about her paranormal experiences, which include a very creepy doppenganger story and a shadow person. First, they read a listener story.

Find Candi Kaine's socials, YouTube and Tiktok here: https://ecstasymagic.com/

If you have a spooky story to share, email Espookytales@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at call the Espooky Hot Line (360)836-4486. You can also submit it on Discord! Thank you so much for sending your stories!

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Hi, everyone. This is Christina
and Carmen and this is another episode of

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Spooky Teals. Today there's no MJ, but we have a super special guest.

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I'm very excited. She's on TikTok, she's on YouTube. She has

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a podcast all about spooky stuff.
So do you want to introduce yourself?

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Hello, I'm Candy Kane and this
is my first podcast ever, so I'm

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a little bit nervous, but I'm
a psychic medium and a taroor reader and

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I have been for eight years now
and now I tell spooky, true paranormal

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stories on the Internet. That's about
and that's how I came across your TikTok

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page for the first time. I'm
sure a lot of people came across these

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videos, but there was a bunch
of people stitching this girl in her car

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who's like, tell me about a
ghost story or something. And that's how

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I came across your videos. And
seriously, everyone should follow you. I'm

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going to put your information in the
show notes as well, so that you

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know you're easy to find. So
we're gonna read a listener story and if

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you have a story that you want
to send into the podcast, you can

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email spooky email dot com. You
can DM us on any of our socials,

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you can submit it on Discord.
Any of those things are fine.

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You can call these Pooky hotline.
That's fine too. Lots of ways to

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get us your story. So we're
going to read that, and then then

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we're just going to hear all of
our guests awesome stories and very creepy stories.

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Carmen, are you ready to read
it? I am? And this

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listener story comes from the Discord,
so they say I was reading not ya

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the short stories you guys recommended,
And the first story actually reminded me of

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an encounter I had in twenty twelve. I had two encounters in Fort Still

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while I was in boot camp.
The first one was a little girl.

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As you know, Christina, when
you're in boot camp, everything has to

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be a certain way. Well,
we had to put our dress shoes inside

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a pair of socks on top of
our locker, our boots and running shoes.

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But I can't exactly remember when it
started, but at first I thought

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someone on Firewatch was messing with my
boots. First they were moved out of

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place, then my boot laces were
and the weirdest part of it was I

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had the tip of the laces tied
so they wouldn't become untied. Anyways,

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every morning my boots were out of
place with the laces out and the tips

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untied. I was furious because it
was such a small annoyance, and like,

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seriously, we put up with enough
in boot camp and way too tired

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for the dumb shit. Anyways,
one night I woke up to go pee,

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and I was half asleep and my
bed was towards the front, so

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I had to walk what seemed like
a hallway that kept stretching and just seemed

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further away than usual. I rolled
my eyes and I saw this little girl

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with curly hair and in the yellow
dress. Mind you, it was dark,

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but somehow I was able to clearly
see this little girl with her back

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towards me. I hear, so
you want, Oh God, sorry,

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I scared myself already because I was
reading it. I hear so you want

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to play? In my head,
I just said fuck no and turn the

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fuck around and went to bed.
Went back to bed. Even though in

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the moment I was Oh my god. Even though in the moment I was

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scared, I didn't feel bad or
negative energy. Anyways. The boot situation

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kept happening, so to get to
the bottom of it, I started a

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rumor. It's a perfect way to
deal with any situation. So I started

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a rumor that we had a little
ghost girl in the barracks and if anyone

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else has seen her or heard anything
weird. Everyone wanted to know more,

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and I said, I keep hearing
a little girl saying do you want to

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play? And my boots are always
out of place. Word gets around to

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the whole barracks about the little ghost
girl, and one of the girls pulls

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me to a side and asked me, is it a little girl with curly

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hair in the yellow dress, maybe
about four or five years old. I

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never mentioned anything about age or what
she wore, so it caught me off

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guard, but I said yes,
why oh God. She proceeds to tell

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me that her adopted a little sister
had passed away and it was the anniversary

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of her passing. I get chose
instantly, and the girl starts crying,

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says she misses her, and shows
me a picture of her. My face

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goes white as I was shocked,
but had a sense of relief, not

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sure how to explain it, Almost
like that feeling from Natosa like Gadalupez when

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the rose disappears and the air the
air hits that's just silly. You had

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some TV show where miracles happen and
every time they do, a rose disappears

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and there's like a wind and the
wind is so visible and the people in

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the show their hair is just like
flowing with the wind. Yeah. Yeah.

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And also after that, magically,
my boots stayed in place every night.

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After that, I felt like I
was the middle person between them and

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helped them reunite or a way for
them to reconnect. That's cute, that's

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beautiful. Yeah. I'm a little
scary, very still in the end.

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Yeah, because if anybody's asking if
I want to play, no, no,

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no, thank you hard no either. This person already had written this

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story on Reddit in the past,
like anonymously or it's a thing, because

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I was aft for it. Still. That's where I did my book camp,

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and there were stories. I never
saw anything, but there were stories

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about a little girl in a yellow
dress. Really, so that is concerning

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to me hearing this because now I'm
like, what, I really hope it

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was her sister and there just happens
to be a second little girl ghost running

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around for it. So but that
seems unlikely that scary year. Now,

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why would it ghost stay there if
it was the adopted sister? So yeah,

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that doesn't make sense. Yeah,
what year was this? I don't

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think I said a year. No, I'm oh, I'm sorry I did.

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Yeah, I knew it. Twenty
twelve? Why, hi there?

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It was not too long before,
you know, I can't remember. Wow,

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was I there in twenty twelve?
Were you? I was you were?

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Weren't you? Because we graduated in
twenty ten. I was there September

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twenty twelve. Oh my god?
Were there at say time? Let me

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know? Please let to know.
Let me know. That's crazy, because

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then it would make sense if I
heard about this yellow dress girl then.

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And I'm just confusing about where I
heard it. I'm small world. Oh

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my god, this is weird.
This has never happened to me. They

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had a second story, but I
figured we would save it for another day.

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Well, thank you so much for
sending that in. And yeah,

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please let me know when you were
there, because I did hear about this

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little girl too. So so now
maybe it is a little the sister then,

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and maybe she's moved on now and
there's like no other stories. You

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know, I hope there's an update
because that would be crazy if y'all were

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there at the same time like that, that would be really nute, right

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right, Well, comment, is
are an update like anything else about Fort

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Zil in the second story, because
like now I need to know more.

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You might as well just media honestly, Okay, second story. My second

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encounter at Fort Zill was after a
long, hard day. It was when

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we marched to the gas chamber.
I could have sworn they put something else

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in that gas chamber because on the
march back, I couldn't stop seeing doing

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this and I felt like I was
being fucked with. Did you see anyone?

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No, I saw nothing. On
the last march we did, I

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was like hallucinating, But I think
I was just tired because we were up

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for like twenty four hours. I
don't think I could have sworn. You

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know. Those story is of like
shadows in the mountains, like in places

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like the they called No it's like
these mountains in California. I can't remember,

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they're called the watchers as any of
these seeing the watchers, And it's

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somewhere in California that people say they
see them, so I could have worn

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I saw like these tall black shadows, but I'm pretty sure imagined it because

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I literally was so exhausted about the
fallover. I don't know how I survived

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that last march. I don't remember
how long it is anymore, but the

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super long like march that we do, and it's after being deprived of sleep

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for hours for a very long time, so I can't say for sure it

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was their paranormal experience, though I
did have a friend that says she saw

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when this really during during that same
march, so I don't know. Then.

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Okay, wait, tell me about
the book. That sounds familiar,

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but I'm not sure if I'm remembering
correctly. I said like the little people,

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Yeah, pretty much in Spanish,
But aren't they smaller than little people?

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I thought they were, I personally
like. My own theory is that

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they are the same thing, but
just differ diferent places of the world,

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and that's why they're called different like
names. But to me, I think

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they're the same honestly, although although
I think like little people, do they

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say they resemble people more because when
those are more like ugly like gnome looking

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things, although sometimes they say that
they look like old in their face.

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So there's different descriptions. I always
picture them like this big. Are they

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bigger than this? Oh? I
feel like they're like So I met this

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lady. I just thought about it. I was like, where did I

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hear about this? I met this
lady on a plane. I was like,

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where did I remember hearing this word? He said that they were like

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tiny. They looked like baby,
but the closer you got, they got

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like really old faces and like scary
teeth. Like she said that she saw

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them. I'm not sure if this
was their Mexico or somethinghere, Like I'm

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pretty sure moved in Mexico and there
was like a creek if I'm not mistaken,

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and there's a specific place that they're
like, if it's dark, don't

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go to this creek. So she
went anyway like teenagers do, and she's

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like, oh my god, there's
like a little kid and he has no

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clothes on, like we have to
say this little kid. And when she

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got closed, it looked like a
really shriveled old man. But she said

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he was like tiny. I mean, I don't know, like toddler signs.

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I've never seen it, so I
don't know if that's that's terrifying.

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It is. And yeah, so
there's like some people say they're toddler sized,

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but then other people say they're smaller
than that. But either way,

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they're horrifying the way. I don't
want to meet one, right right,

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So they go on to say,
literally, feeling like I was going crazy,

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like if I was on a bad
trip or something. After showering and

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finally getting into bed, I was
crying because I was so freaked out and

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having a moment of doubt, like
what the hell did I get myself into?

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Starting to feel regret, This tall
lady in bright red hair walked over

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to my bed, kneeled down and
held my hand. She said everything is

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going to be okay, to not
worry. Without realizing, I fell asleep

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peacefully, almost like it was just
a dream, but really felt her hand.

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Anyways, with so much going on
in boot camp, I entirely forgot

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about this encounter until months later.
Hey, they went to Germany. Also,

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okay, sorry, hell, let
me go on. I think you

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might know this person. So until
months later. As in six months later,

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I was stationed in Germany. Not
going to get into detail, some

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unfortunate events happened and I landed in
the hospital being admitted to the psych ward.

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When I finally got to see a
psychiatrist like a day or two later,

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on his desk, I saw a
picture of two women and him,

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and now super hyper fixated on the
picture until I just had to ask,

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who is that lady? He replied, my wife? I replied, I

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saw her in Oklahoma and told me
that everything is going to be okay to

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not worry. He said that's not
possible. She's passed away many years ago,

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and I said, how could that
be. She held my hand until

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I fell asleep. He immediately told
me our session was over, kicked me

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out of the office, and I
was assigned someone else. It's one of

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those things I was just never able
to explain, especially because Oklahoma and Germany

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are two separate countries. I never
saw that doctor again, and I wouldn't

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know if he or she was from
Oklahoma or any relationship into that state,

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or if I was just simply put
on that path to pass a message.

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To this day, it remains a
mystery to me, and I get chills

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every time I tell this story.
I hope you guys enjoy the story.

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Thank you, Jay. That's insane. Yeah, no, but that like

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that is so weird because yeah,
like they said in the message that this

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happened in Oklahoma and then this in
Germany. So that's just like it was

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meant to be. Feels like a
message. Weird how both stories is like

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someone who passed away and then then
they like later encounter the person of the

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loved one of that goes or whatever. It sounds like Jay might be a

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median. Yeah, that really is
what it sounds like, because like,

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what are the chances like they went
looking for Jay? Right? I love

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those stories though. Okay, well
let's take a quick ad break and then

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we'll get into the stories and we're
back, all right. Well, I

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encountered to stories on TikTok and I
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but I can hardly remember them now, so it's gonna be like new.

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But I mean, any stories that
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totally cool. So the house that
I lived in with the most activity,

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I first saw it when I was
seventeen and an older cousin inherited it and

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she was creeped out by it.
She was like, maybe we'll six it

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up and rent it out, but
she's like I'm not living here. I

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was like, you're crazy, Like
it looks it was just so different and

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unique, and I was like,
I'm in love with everything that makes this

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house creepy. But I just thought
it looked really cool. But she must

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have been more in tune with her. But fast forward ten years. I

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needed a place to stay and it
had everything that I needed, like the

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amount of rooms and everything. And
if you're watching like a scary movie to

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say like, oh, it had
so many rooms in summer space and it

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was just so cheap. That's usually
like a red flag, but yes,

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to me, I was just like, oh, I manifested this. I

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was like, this is wonderful,
like it has everything, but I needn

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It didn't take long for things to
start getting weird, so I started to

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kind of get into it with my
sister here and there because it's like I

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didn't I didn't let you borrow this? Why is this here? Or like

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you know, why didn't you put
this back where you know that? It

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goes like I couldn't find this,
and she's like I don't know what you're

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talking about, or like I'm hearing
her and I'm like, can you shut

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up? Like I can hear you
through the wall, and like she just

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wouldn't be there, and it's like
something, there's something weird here. And

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so there was this area on my
side of the house that I would call

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it a revidual haunting. I called
them the party people. It sounded like

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there was a party going on in
that area every night at about the same

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time, and it happened to me
it would sound like your uncle l are

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getting drunk in the next room,
like just being loud, and we would

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just like sit and look at each
other, like it was like having a

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really really loud roommate. But still
it was like, well, maybe we're

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just hearing echoes from the house next
door. The sound is caring, Like

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I tried to be logical to explain
it away. Yes, for at least

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the first six months, it took
a really long time to accept it,

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Like I really didn't want to accept
it. I really think I was just

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in denial because I'm familiar with like
ghost things. But I think I knew

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it's like, Okay, we're here
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so I'm going to have to figure
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it wasn't really until like the story
that most people are introduced to me is

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by the Dappelganger story. There was
a shadow person that lived in the closet

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in my bedroom closet. I know, why is it always the class but

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there it was so crazy because there
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could never get into for some reason, and I took that as I don't

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need to see what's in this,
so I completely ignored that section. So

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like when people would ask, like, oh, what's up there? Nothing,

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you don't know you're out there.
Yeah, just pretend it's not there.

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I just want to say, if
that was a horror movie, the

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white person would have gone into that
listen. Oh yeah, listen. I

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was. I was very much becky
in every sense of it, because like

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everything that I could have done wrong, I did wrong, all the mistakes

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that you think, you know,
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I see why, like before horror
movies didn't seem so realistic. Now that

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I've lived it, it's like I
could see myself doing that. Yeah,

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But like I told myself that certain
things that I would see, I'm like,

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Okay, well, maybe it's just
the shadows. Maybe I'm just not

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used to cars passing and just maybe
it's light or something like that. And

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the ceilings were really high in my
bedroom because the house was weird because it

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wasn't meant to be a house.
I don't really know what it was before,

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but it was a few things.
You could tell. It was a

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few things. So just in my
room, the ceilings were extremely high.

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And I remember late at night,
and this actually made me come up with

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a rule. But late at night, I would lay down and just look

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in the darkness and I would just
see things. It was just it looked

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like my boyfriend showed me Harry Potter
the dementors. I'd never seen yah,

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I've never seen it before until he
showed me. And it's like, yes,

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that's exactly what it is. But
I told myself it was just my

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eyes adjusting to the dark. I
was like, maybe it's just I've never

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looked at it at night. I
mean, you had to rationalize it.

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Yeah, yeah. And I would
just sit and just look and it's like,

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it's so crazy what our brains do. That was not it at all.

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It wasn't until he started sleeping over
and he got traumatized by certain beings

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there because there were more than just
the party people and the shadow person.

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There was something else. Yeah,
so he had his situation. I'll get

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into that, but it wasn't until
he was like, you know, there's

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something that just flies around your room
at night, like did you know that?

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And my heart just dropped. I
was like you you see that too,

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Like that's not just my eyes adjusting
and he's like no, like I

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laid down here. I lay down
and watched it while you slept, and

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he's like, it just has a
pattern. It just goes back and forth.

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And that was when it finally said
it. I'm like, it's haunted,

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like this place is hanted, and
I couldn't deny it. After that,

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when someone else sees it, there's
no more, no more denying it.

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Yeah. So a mistake that I
made when wait, okay, I'm

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getting I'm getting ahead of myself.
I'm going to tell y'all about your the

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Dapple Ganger for those who haven't heard
that story. So, we started out

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as friends, my boyfriend and I. So we would FaceTime late at night,

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and my rule was if the lights
were off in the room, I

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had to either have my head completely
covered or my flashlight on my phone,

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like it just I wouldn't. I
just wouldn't be in the room while it

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was dark. But I was on
FaceTime. Did want to hang up because

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you know, cute little puppy love. I wanted to talk on the phone.

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So I had my head uncovered and
it was just complete darkness, and

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I had the phone like facing straight
up, like on the pillow next to

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my head, like pointing straight up
so I could see him, but he

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couldn't see me. All he could
see was darkness. And I'm dozing off

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and something tells me to open my
eyes, and he's like playing a video

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game and he'll like look over and
he'll continue playing the game. He'll look

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over. And I opened my eyes
and I saw my face like really really

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close to the camera, and I'm
like, how did the phone move?

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I'm like, I'm trying to make
sense of it because I'm halfway asleep and

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I'm just looking at it for like
a second. I'm like, how did

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this happen? And I watch my
face. Mind you, I'm not moving.

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I watched my face back away from
the camera. Oh my god,

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my god. And mind you,
the room is completely dark, so I

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couldn't see if anything was next to
me, but I'm watching my face on

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the camera. I'm like this close
and just like backing up and I know

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I'm not moving, and I just
I wasn't making sense of it. And

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I was like, oh my god. And I saw he looked at the

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camera at that same time and he
watched it too. But I didn't want

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to scare him. I was like, if he doesn't say anything, that

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was just my brain. I was
half asleep, I'm dreaming it's something.

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And he goes like, why why
is your facing the camera like that something?

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I said, wait, what are
you talking about? And he's like,

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I just saw your face and I
was like, no, no,

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you didn't. And I got up
and I left. I went and I

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slept with my sister that night.
I'm like I'm not going back and that

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I'm not doing it. But oh
yeah it was. That was That's the

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story most people have been introduced to
me by uh. That's the first one

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I saw. Yeah. We we
dealt with a lot in that house.

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Like, Okay, so I have
a son and my son is nonverbal,

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so like he'll be in his own
little world. We kind of just coexist

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together. That's his version of playing
as long as you're in the room,

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he's fine. He doesn't want you
to play with him, but you know

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you be here. I played with
my stuff, so I remember, I'm

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either waking up or falling asleep because
it's multiple people in the house, so

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I could take a nap and he'll
he'll be running around and everything's fine.

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So I wake up and I can
see he's under like under his cover and

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he has like a little bean bag, and I hear his tablet, so

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I'm like, oh, you know, he's in his own little world in

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the room with me. So I'm
just like laying in the band. I'm

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scrolling on my phone and it's normal
for me to speak to him and for

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him to not acknowledge me. So
I'm just like, hey, Buck,

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And I still hear the tablet,
and he's I can see him on like

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his outline under the pillow, I
mean under the cover. So I'm scrolling

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on my phone and then I hear
him in another room, so I sit

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up because I'm like, am I
am I tripping? So I sit up

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and I could see him wig because
he's a little firecracker. I could see

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him wiggling. When I first woke
up under the cover and when I looked

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up, the cover just went completely
flo my god, completely flat. And

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then like immediately after, my mom
comes to the room and she's like,

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did you see bucks tablet? And
I'm just frozen. She's like what's wrong.

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I'm like nothing, Like should I
even tell her? So I'm just

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like nothing. When I tell you, it was it was like a movie

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living there, and we would just
look at each other and be like,

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I can't wait to leave, like
we were counting down. Yeah, and

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we left early. So everyone was
experiencing things like that. Yes. Yes.

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The only person who wasn't really scared
for some reason was my sister.

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She would be the one like I
would randomly hear her be like shut up,

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and I'm like, what's going on? She's like nothing. Like to

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her, it was more like I
would be more scared. It was more

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annoying to her, like it was
more like an inconvenience or like she'd come

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in the room and just be like, do you have a comb? Do

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you have a brush, because like
I'm knowing that it's just disappearing. I

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already know what happens, so I'm
just like grab what you need because I

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know you just had it and now
you don't have it. I already know,

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like we kind of got used to
that, or like you plug your

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phone and then you come back in
the phone it's just not plugged or like

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just not in the wall at all, and nobody was in there. No

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one's phones were ever charged. No, it hated us talking on the phone,

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apparently like stop scrolling, get off
your phone, you're not allowed.

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So I don't know, I might
be skipping ahead a little bit, but

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there was a neighbor who I kind
of gotten to know just just in passing,

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just hello, how you doing,
because in the South, we speak

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even if you know you don't really
know that person, it's hello, how

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you doing, good morning, you
know whatever. He was Oh lord.

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I never actually really talked about this
part. I kind of hinted at it

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on YouTube, but I never really
talked about it. But his son dated

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a girl who lived in the house
before me, like when they were teenagers,

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and he's like, well, you
know, they were into that weird

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stuff. And I'm like, what
what weird stuff? And it was like,

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oh, all the devil stuff in
the leigie boards and all that.

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And he's like, I told them
not to bring it into my house anymore,

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so they moved it to her house, which was the house. Okay,

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that that kind of explained where some
of that might have been. And

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I have a theory. Of course, I'll never know because I was scared.

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I was too scary to really look
in that closet, but I had

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a theory that it might have been
in that closet, like in that space

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up till there. Yeah, because
it was weird. It was just it

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was a lot. But I have
stories for days just just in that house.

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I mean, that that blanked thing
horrifying. I was so scared.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that
was probably the weirdest thing. And I

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think it's because I feel like my
son might have been the hardest one to

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mimic. I think everybody kind of
got mimicked. So, you know,

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I would hear my sister or my
mom would hear me singing, like she

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would say that alone so scary.
Yeah, and you went on something crazier.

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People still hear me singing there,
Oh my god, I'm in Colorado.

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That house is in Louisiana. Oh
my god, like it keeps your

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voice or something. Oh my god. Yes, yes, I'm so serious.

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So there's somewhere that the neighbors had
thought that we moved in before we

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were actually there. Yeah, so
they were like, you know, oh,

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there's been like loud music and stuff, which now I know was the

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party people. But they thought we
had moved in before, and I was

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like, no, like they were
still repairing things before we had gotten in,

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and I just kind of thought,
well, maybe it was the guys

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who were working on the house.
Maybe they were working late and partying.

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You know, it's certain things you
just have to tell yourself. But again,

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those were the neighbors who were like, yo, well nobody stays there

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that long. Like, I'm surprised
y'all lasted this long. It's like I

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wish y'all would have said something.
Why anything? Zero there was? There

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was a lot. But now I
kind of I've grown to view the shadow

389
00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:26.680
person as more of a guardian.
I think, Okay, well should I

390
00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:30.279
should I go into that because that's
like another story if you want. I

391
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.720
feel like I'm just like rambling on
and on and on. No, that's

392
00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:37.960
what we do here too, So
it's fine. So, uh, my

393
00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:41.480
boyfriend got scared when he was alone. I'd left him alone and I'd gotten

394
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:47.839
kind of comfortable in our routine,
so we were always together, so I

395
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:51.880
didn't I wasn't so scared when he
was when he was around, but we

396
00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:55.680
would be there together. And I
made the mistake of leaving him in another

397
00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:59.640
room and going to bed in my
room, and then he got really really

398
00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:03.920
scared by something that looked like it
crawled from under the house. That's the

399
00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:07.480
why that he described it. He's
like, it's like caked with dirt and

400
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.440
ripped up clothes and like it ran
up to him and screamed in his face.

401
00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:15.720
That's horrible. Yeah, And I
woke up in the middle of the

402
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:19.440
night and I'm just like, he
didn't. He didn't come like to bed,

403
00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:22.920
So I'm just like, what's going
on. I get I get up

404
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.480
to go find him, and he's
just sitting There's nothing on TV. It's

405
00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:30.200
completely quiet. Every light is on, and he's just like sitting there.

406
00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.680
I'm like, what's wrong, and
he's like he just looks so scared,

407
00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:36.240
and he wouldn't tell me. He
didn't tell me for like a couple of

408
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:40.079
weeks what happened. But I kind
of viewed it at like he was like,

409
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:42.480
well, maybe it scared me because
I wasn't with you. I kind

410
00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:47.759
of felt like it scared him,
so he would be in the room where

411
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:52.400
nothing else would happen. Because there
were multiple things. There was the shadow

412
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.240
Man, there was that thing,
there was the party people. There's a

413
00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:57.160
little thing that looks like a little
kid. It was just a lot,

414
00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:02.359
a lot going on. So I
kind of I viewed the because the shadow

415
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:04.960
guy never really scared me, besides
the fact that I had to put like

416
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:08.599
I had to leave clothes, like
a basket of clothes on the chair that

417
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:11.680
I had in the room, because
in the middle of the night, if

418
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.000
I would look over, I would
see somebody, like an outline of somebody

419
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.200
just like sitting there. So I
was the way that I viewed it was

420
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:21.599
if I fill up this chair with
things, the shadow man, they can't

421
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:23.200
sit there, Yeah he won't.
Maybe I won't sit here. Maybe he'll

422
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:27.319
know he's not really welcome. But
that's totally a thing, though, they

423
00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:32.559
say, at least in Mexico.
I know this. People say this,

424
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:36.000
but like, don't have chairs inside
your room? Are you serious? Like

425
00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:40.000
it's inviting I was thinking of getting
your chance todays don't do it. But

426
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:42.279
it's gonna be my clothes chair.
All right, No, that's fine.

427
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:45.799
Then if you fill it up,
they can't sit there. But it's my

428
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:48.319
husband, Paul. He doesn't want
me to get the chair because he says,

429
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:52.880
I'm gonna put clothes on it.
But now I have reason to him

430
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:57.279
it's necessary. Oh my god,
that's scary. I wish I had known

431
00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:00.720
that that was the thing before.
It's also the doormat thing that they say,

432
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:04.640
what dormat thing? Oh, not
to have a welcome mat oh oh,

433
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:08.519
mine mindsets like it's that cringey like
millennial thing that's like don't knock,

434
00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:12.440
we don't want people here, or
something like, well that's very so yeah

435
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:17.920
that might that might be a good
thing. Yeah, yeah, so I

436
00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:21.759
feel better now. It's I wonder
if that thing was just the shadow thing,

437
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:23.640
was just sitting there, like guarding
you from this creepy crawley thing that

438
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:29.319
see that that's kind of what I
told myself that. I don't know that's

439
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:33.799
better. I don't know if that
was my mind making something that would let

440
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.160
me stay there without losing my mind. So maybe that's just I don't know,

441
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:41.359
but yeah, there was there was
a lot going on. Maybe he

442
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:48.519
was guarding the Ouiji board. That's
kind of like maybe he's just like,

443
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:52.440
maybe that's why he would just be
in in the room. Maybe he wanted

444
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:55.599
to make sure I didn't play with
that, but I don't know. A

445
00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:57.960
lot of it is just a mystery. Well, it must be later for

446
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:00.559
you. We could wrap up here
if you want, Unless there's more stories

447
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:03.200
you want to tell us. We're
okay with either one. It is really

448
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.720
up to y'all. But I can
come back for another one later. It's

449
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:10.160
oh my god, yes, let's
do that. We would love that.

450
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:15.079
I have stories on stories on stories. Yeah. No, this was great,

451
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.160
So yeah, you're always welcome back. Serious, thank you so much

452
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:22.680
for coming on. At the end
of every episode, we give spooky recommendations,

453
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:27.480
so anything spooky related you either you've
been watching or listening to. Do

454
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:33.079
you have any I have two books
actually, ooh okay, Carmen's been obsessed

455
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:37.519
with reading lately, so I'm trying
to start like a pretty spooky book club.

456
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.440
So far, it's only like a
TikTok series because I don't really know

457
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.759
how to do a book club.
But oh my gosh, well, if

458
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.960
we ever are reading the same book, let us know and we'll do a

459
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.240
whole episode on it because we have
suppose like they're not monthly, they're like,

460
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:56.079
I don't know, every three months
we read a different book and record

461
00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:59.359
an episode on it. And they're
always horror books, and we love to

462
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:03.519
do horror book books that are like
not by white authors. I got so

463
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:07.240
oh yeah, if we're or if
there's a book like, yeah, for

464
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:10.079
sure, we should do one of
those together too. That'd be fun.

465
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:14.440
Definitely, definitely. Okay. So
first, I have never Whistle. It's

466
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:19.359
on my list. Yes, that's
dope and indigenous dark fiction anthology, and

467
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:25.960
I love horror anthologies. I've only
read the first story so far because I'm

468
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:30.200
trying to finish a book before I
start another one, but clearly I'm feeling

469
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:32.920
it that and this one is so
good. Honestly, you need it.

470
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:33.759
If it's been on your list,
you need to get it. And the

471
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:38.079
cover is so pretty too, it
is it is one more time for the

472
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:42.799
cover. Yes, yes, it's
beautiful. And this one is more of

473
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:47.880
a spicy book. It's my first
spicy book that I've ever gotten. It's

474
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:55.000
I accidentally summoned a demon boyfriend.
Oh okay, Jessica Cage, I actually

475
00:30:55.000 --> 00:31:00.440
found her on TikTok and one of
my book talk friends recommended, and she

476
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:03.200
actually bought it for me. She
gifted it for me, and I'm so

477
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:06.759
thankful that she did, because I
haven't been able to put it down when

478
00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:11.599
I'm supposed to go something. I'm
reading this book like and I'm almost finished,

479
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:15.079
Like and this is like the quickest
I've finished the book because I have

480
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.559
ADHD, so that should tell you
how good the book is. Join the

481
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.759
club. Yeah, but those are
my two spooky ricks. Sweet. Yeah,

482
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.839
I'm gonna add both of those to
my list, but like actually got

483
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:29.559
them because I have a list and
I never like get anything from the list,

484
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:33.480
but for sure buying those look bump
these up to the top because I

485
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.000
have a ton of books that I
start and then now they're just in the

486
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.039
corner somewhere. But these two,
like I have a hard time putting them

487
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:41.599
down. I'm like, Okay,
you have to go to sleep, you

488
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:45.640
have stuff to do tomorrow. But
they're really they're really good. But thank

489
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:51.599
thank y'all for having me. I'm
so excited is my very first time being

490
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.200
has to be on somebody's podcast,
and I love I've been binge watching y'all.

491
00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:59.880
Like since since I got the message, I'm like, okay, So

492
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:04.279
every time I'm like cleaning or doing
something, I put y'all on the TV,

493
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:07.759
like on YouTube on the TV and
I just sweep and listen to you

494
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:09.559
guys. Oh thank you. Yeah. I sent the message and I was

495
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:15.359
like, please reply please, And
I hardly ever opened dms, but it

496
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:17.400
was it was meant to be.
It was meant to be that I saw

497
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:21.119
the message because I never see like
I missed a lot of messages, but

498
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:23.599
it was meant to be. I
love that because I also don't open TikTok

499
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:28.480
messages. They're always strange, so
very oh man, Karmen. Do you

500
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:31.759
have any spooky recommendations before we go? No, we just recorded yesterday,

501
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:37.799
so it would make sense that you
don't have any. I'm still only watching

502
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:43.799
Degrassi on my free time, so
I have no spooky recommendations. But if

503
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:46.400
anyone wants me to talk about Degrassi, I will which one? Which one

504
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:52.359
are you on? Like the older
older ones or like no, the next

505
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:57.440
generation. But I'm in like the
last two seasons where all the like og

506
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:01.680
like where you know Jimmy was on
drink. They're all gone. They've been

507
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:05.359
gone, and now it's like this
new class and I'm like, I don't

508
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:07.000
know how I feel about them,
but I'm watching it anyway because like,

509
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:13.079
I have to finish now. I
was so hurt when Jimmy got shot.

510
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:15.480
Almost stopped watching it, like when
I was a kid, almost stopped watching.

511
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.039
I was like this, I thought
he was going to be my husband,

512
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.440
my thirteen year old brain. But
yeah, I almost stopped watching.

513
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:28.920
But Degrassi is a really good show. But it's a really good show.

514
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:31.599
It's great, and I love that
you've watched it. Yeah, because last

515
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:34.799
time I tried talking more about it, it's like, all right, stop

516
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.039
because nobody because you went on.
I went on already, I did it.

517
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.599
I did. It was too long, and we talked about it for

518
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:43.680
like a long time. I felt, yeah, and it was like three

519
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.480
episodes in a row that I can't
That was the only reason I shut you

520
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:52.200
down. You're right, you're right. Hopefully soon i'll have a spooky recommendation

521
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:55.000
because I need to stop. But
before we go, do you want to

522
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:58.880
tell listeners where to find you?
And again, I will link all this

523
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:05.000
in the show notes. Okay,
So Candy Cane on TikTok and Instagram and

524
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:08.360
YouTube, and also The Pretty Spooky
Show on Instagram. I just started that

525
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:15.880
Instagram. I'm trying to do more
YouTube exclusives and Instagram exclusives, just to

526
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:20.079
move a bit away from TikTok because
I put so much on there and I

527
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:27.000
kind of want to build like a
spooky community, just specifically that on Instagram.

528
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:30.119
So follow me on The Pretty Spooky
Show. Don't have many followers,

529
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:35.480
maybe fourteen, I think, but
I need to follow you. I don't

530
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:38.320
think I've done that on Instagram.
I'd appreciate it. Dang, Why am

531
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:47.000
I blanking up? I'm doing a
series. It's a collection of video essays

532
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:53.360
on spooky paranormal things, true stories, haunted places, what else. I'm

533
00:34:53.519 --> 00:35:00.960
totally blanking the only part. And
then on the spot You're like, what

534
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:05.360
I forgot? I know, Okay, I'm gonna pause here I have.

535
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:08.559
I was doing an interview for this
like freelance gig and they were like,

536
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:12.800
where are you from? And my
ass said California and I haven't lived in

537
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:16.039
California and like what ten years now? And I'm like why did I say

538
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:20.199
California? And then later they're like, oh, how's the weather California.

539
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:22.079
I was like, oh, it's
actually rated in Washington, and they're like,

540
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:23.440
did you say you're for California.
I was like, oh my god,

541
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:28.920
I'm so sorry. I don't know
why I said that. It's crazy

542
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:31.880
because it's the only part that I
was like, Okay, I'm really nervous,

543
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:35.840
but it's like, okay, just
make sure that you don't forget to

544
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.519
talk about your YouTube and like the
process that you are. So I'm just

545
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:42.000
like, Okay, don't forget,
don't forget about the video essays, don't

546
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:45.320
forget about the and completely that's the
only thing I'm just completely blanket on.

547
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:52.519
But I've been working on this series, this collection of video essays about supernatural

548
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:55.840
paranormal things and a lot of folklore
because I'm really into folklore. Yeah,

549
00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:00.960
so that's what I'm working on.
I've only started really posting on YouTube like

550
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:05.519
a week ago, so I'm trying
to, you know, get up there

551
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:07.199
and do my thing. I think
I'm getting better. I'm going to be

552
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:13.480
improving. But yeah, that's where
people can find me. YouTube, TikTok,

553
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:16.679
and Instagram all the same name Candy
Cane or the Pretty Spooky Show,

554
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:22.239
So whichever one you type in I'm
gonna pop up oh sweet and ecstasymagic dot

555
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:27.039
How am I forgetting about my website, the one place where you can find

556
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:31.840
everything, ecstasymagic dot com. That's
my website. So if you want to

557
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:36.920
talk to me, that's the best
way to find me because dms get drowned

558
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:42.559
out. But I answer everybody who
messages me on ecstasymagic dot com awesome.

559
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.960
And those are all things that all
of our listeners love. So we'll venture

560
00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:52.280
to like continuously plug your TikTok and
your YouTube all of it, because like

561
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.559
I love it, and so I'm
pretty sure everyone else will. You know

562
00:36:54.599 --> 00:37:00.960
what, that's the spooky recommendation.
Thank you. I reallyppreciate it. I

563
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:04.320
really yeah, no, of course, and seriously, thank you so much

564
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:06.960
for coming on, and well for
sure have to ask you to come back.

565
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:13.639
Thank you. I'm looking forward to
being Yeah, I won't be so

566
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:17.079
nervous, I said the same time, just said, I said, okay,

567
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:22.519
that you'll be less nervous next time. Honestly though, it was like

568
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:27.360
natural. I cann't even tell you
can't even really got everything at the end

569
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:35.599
till then you blame that. I'm
going to be better next time. I'm

570
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:40.480
going to look back and thank you, thank you so much. All right,

571
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:45.679
and what should we say? I
don't know. Watch out for little

572
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:49.760
kids in yellow dresses. Yeah,
yeah, I watch out for that.

573
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.719
It goes my light. All right, that's a sign. Stay a spooky

574
00:37:52.719 --> 00:38:00.880
everyone, and we'll catch you next
time. I'm bye bye. Spooky Tales

575
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:06.039
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576
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:10.719
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577
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578
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579
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582
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love. I absolutely adore it.

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It's so comfy, it's warm,
it has a spooky in Old English letters.

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There's also a baseball hat in the
same way as spooky and Old English

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letters, and that's what I wear
in the summers. They're both awesome hats.

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And there's other things in there,
like the no Mama's shirts, which

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is a very popular shirt. If
you like history, check out my other

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podcast, Istodia is Unknown, hosted
with the unofficial official guest co host of

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a Spooky Teals, Carmen, And
if you like no velast checkout no Velaskokfisito,

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which Carmen and I also host together. And yeah, we love every

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single listen every single a spooky Thank
you so much, Stay as spooky