Oct. 31, 2025

Legends From Guanajuato, Mexico

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Guanajuato is located in the northwest area of Mexico and has the title of the 8th loeset populated state in the country, and maybe that's because it's full of ghosts. In this episode, Cristina tells Carmen the legend of la Bruja de Guanajuato, the train of Poanas, the Headless Man and the Lerdo Monster. But first, they read a listener story and end with spooky recs. Today's spooky recs were the Clown (on netflix) and Juan of the Dead. The movie The Fly was also mentioned.

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Hi, this is Christina and Carmen, or or should we

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say I forgot their fucking names? Or Selma and Patty,

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but like the Simpsons, Yeah, but the wrong version, because

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let me tell you the ordeal first, or the wrong version.

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Like your hair.

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allly smell it is the hair spray.

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our hair. Christina has a wrong shade of blue because

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Anyway. Yeah, we are Selma and Patty. We made little cigarettes.

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Yeah, we're gonna have to explain in the caption about

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your hair who we are. Oh, I don't think it's

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going to be clear. You don't think people will know.

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I don't think. So I'm gonna talk like this the

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whole time. Okay, me too.

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Then I feel like it's obvious, but maybe not. I

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think because my hair is only half blue. I think

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if your hair was the same shit as mine, the

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wrong shade. Yeah, yeah, I think I ruined it. I

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did it was me anyway, Yes, this is a Spooky Tells,

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the podcast for all things spooky, true crime, miss Legends

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a hundred places in Latin America today legends from Durango.

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But before that, a listener story. And if you have

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a story you want to send to us, you can

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email a Spooky at email dot com. You can submit

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it on Discord, you can call the Pooky Hotline. You

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can DM me on Instagram, which is what this listener did,

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but they wanted to stay anonymous. Also, before you read

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this listener story, I had to tell you, do you

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listen to Moras Malitas?

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Yes? Right?

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M hm okay for listeners that don't listen to Moras

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Malita's they are in Spanish, they're in Mexico. I want

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to see see that a Mexico, But I could be wrong. Anyway,

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They it's the same thing. They share scary stories, but

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they have segments. One segment they do is arte de terre.

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But the other segment they do is where listeners sent

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them scary dreams. Basically, I think they call it sen

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and so this is akin to that. This listener's story,

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because sometimes dreams are a peranormal experience. Yeah, and that

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felt very much like this when this listener was like,

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I need to tell you this dream I had, and

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I was like, please do. And then after they told me,

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I was like, can I please read this because this

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was crazy, this was insane.

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And so here we are. I'm glad they let you. Yes, yes,

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thank you so much. You know who you are. Are

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you ready to read a Kerman? I am?

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Okay, okay, here goes. My grandpa lived in Tanada when

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I was little, before he moved back to California, and

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in the dream I dreamt we were visiting him back there.

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I remember that we were going to grab some fish

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for dinner, because in my dream he was already well

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into his eighties and I was still a little kid.

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In reality, he died when I was eleven and he

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was ninety. He was an avid deep sea and open

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water fisherman, and he was telling me a story about

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how there used to be mermaids in the Bay and

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in the Gulf of California when.

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He was a kid.

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We went to a busto that was selling mangos and

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he bought me one. Then we went to the fish

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market on the pier. When the bustos had a huge

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crowd in. My grandpa, in typical fashion, did not care

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and pushed his way through. I was dragging a little behind,

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saving my mango, and he told me to look on

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a hook butchered and cleaned out like a fish. Was

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a mermaid. I don't know if i'd call it a female,

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but whatever. She had a roughly human shape, like the

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way that chimps or gorillas resemble humans. You know. Yes,

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her body was as light gray on the front and

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from her elbows up she looked like a combination of

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a yellow tail and a lorado. She had green hair

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that looked almost black, with really long arms and creepy

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long fingers. The fisherman that caught her was carving her

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up and offered me a piece, But as I was

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putting it up to my mouth and my grandpa knocked

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it out of my head and I woke up. What

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the Wasn't that wild? That's kind of crazy? What if

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mermaids actually do look like that?

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Like, what if at some point this listener did see

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a mermaid and they're remembering it. Yes, the creepiest part is, like,

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what if he did eat this mermaid in the dream,

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what would have happened?

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M Yeah, I don't know.

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It's like when you know, when you're like falling say something.

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Who's to say exactly? We don't know, but you know

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when you're falling in dream and you wake up before

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you reach the bottom, and they say that if you

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actually reach the bottom, you die.

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Yeah, I've heard that, like if you.

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Hit you dying irl? What if when he ate this

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mermaid you get food poisoning, he became the mermaid? Oh,

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or that one of the two food poisoning or they

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become the mermaid. I if I learned that mermaids were real,

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I don't think. I don't want to eat one. No, no, no, same.

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It would feel cannibalistic a little bit. Yeah. I want

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the dream interpretation people to tell me what they think

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this happened, like what this means? I just find it

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so creepy. So yeah, yeah, okay, Well, thank you for

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letting me share that, and again send us your stories.

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Now let's get into legends from Durangle. But first before

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we share legends, So I have some Durango fun facts

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because I didn't know anything about Durgo, so The official

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name of the state is the Free and Sovereign State

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of Durango and it's in the northwest area of Mexico,

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with a population of just over one point five million,

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which is the eighth lowest in all of Mexico.

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The capital of the state is Victoria de Lourrango, usually

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just shortened to Lurango. The city is named after the

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first President of Mexico, Guadalupe Victoria, and it's mostly rural

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with desert and mountainous regions, and it is the home

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of the Raramuri, the Uiraitari, more commonly known as the Wuichol,

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the Teppewan, and the Mexican Neros indigenous peoples. Yes, the

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state was key during the Mexican Revolution and Panchrovilla himself

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was especially active in the state of Lurango. Interesting the

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more you know, now, actually onto the legends. A while back,

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we started like going through the states, and then we

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stopped to do other things. But once in a while,

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we're gonna go back to the states. We're going to

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get through every Mexican state and then every country and

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then every country. Yes, we've already done some but not all. Yeah,

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So the first legend that I have for you is

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La Bruqua de Durrango, the witch of Durgo. So according

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to legend in colonial times around the year sixteen hundred,

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there was a beautiful and elegant woman. She's always beautiful

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and elegant. It's key, it's given of course, living in

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the city of Durango. She was said to be a bruca,

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a witch. But despite her beauty, her eyes were fierce

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and scary, and she was very resentful they say, okay,

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mostly because no one believed she had powers, that her

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magic was real.

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She's like bit she has believed and.

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She was tired of it, and so she decided to

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prove her powers. And the way she did this was

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by finding older men in Durango so red flag and

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telling them that she would use her powers to help them.

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And this would this men like, help them defeat their

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enemies to get what they wanted. Uh So using her

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powers for evil you could say, yeah, yeah, sounds like it. Yeah,

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And using her bruquardia, she began to order the cruelest

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of punishments in the region, especially toward those who disobeyed her,

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but even more to women she believed were jealous of

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her and her beauty.

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No one is jealous of you, Oh my god.

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No, Like if she had been a girl's girl, maybe

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she would have survived, you know, because that's where this

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is going spoilers, So happens when you're pickney exactly.

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She also used.

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Her these like cruel punishments toward men who would not

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fall for her charms, and she, of course began to

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enjoy her newfound power and fame. Her neighbors in La

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Colonia La Sienega were under her rule and they did

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whatever she demanded of them. But they were getting tired

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of her and they unified against her. Okay, community came together, yes,

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and so they had her arrested and then they hoped

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that the local Spanish Inquisition would.

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Deal with her. Okay, I was gonna say, wait, are

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they going to get rid to the Inquisition? Yes, they did.

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Maybe the Inquisition would even kill her, that's what they wanted.

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Now I'm kind of on her side. I mean, I

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support women's wrongs, they do. Yeah, yeah, But for some

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reason the authorities at the local office of Holy Inquisition

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didn't know what to do with her because things that

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they normally did were nothing to this Bruca. She just

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laughed and laughed and told them that she was she

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had the most powerful ally on her side and because

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of that, as it was, it was as yes, you're correct,

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but because Atanas was on her side, they couldn't touch her.

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So the inquisition was done. They were like, well, what

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do we do they do that?

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No?

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No, they tried to poison her, but that did nothing

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to her. It didn't affect her. She just laughed again.

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So their next move was to try and grind up

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some glass and force feeded to her. Oh dear, yeah,

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but again but again nothing happened to her. She just

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laughed and laughed.

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Ha ha ha. Hold on, I have a quote, ha

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ha ha. No, then Gormas yells, misa ha that's what.

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She said now an ingless now in English habu with

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an age ha ha ha. Haven't I told you you

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can't do anything to me Satanas? Oh sorry, it is

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by my side and he is my strength ha ha

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ha again h on j And when they saw the inquisition,

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when they saw that poison and glass did nothing to her,

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this is when they decided to hang.

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And burn her. Oh no yeah.

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And so as she was on fire in flames she

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was laughing jjj a, and she cursed all who were present,

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and then a priest threw holy water at her face,

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and this caused her to stop laughing, and eventually the fire.

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Did its job.

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Once it was all said and done, there was only

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a pile of ashes where La Brua de Durngo once stood.

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But this is not the end of her story, because

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those cursed by her, those who watched her burn, would

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hear her every night, laughing and yelling curses at the damn,

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and then their descendants.

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Would hear her. That's horrible.

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Yeah, it just continued. And it is said by the

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people of Durgo that the more people talk about her,

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the more she appears.

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Not us, not us, We're not from Durrango. No, no, no, no,

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you have to be in Durgo. Okay, that's what I've heard.

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It's when I read. But the more she appears, so

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people try their best who never speak her name. Damn. Yes,

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it was not a fun one. Yeah, I like that.

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I love a witch.

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I love a bad bitch who's a witch exactly. And

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they say that in La Colonia Laga you can still

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find the tree where she was hung, and in that neighborhood.

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She can be her laughing after ten pm some nights.

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Oh my god.

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Yes, so let us know if you hear her. Okay,

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next story. This next one was short, but I love

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a train story. So this is a trend Boanas or

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the train of Boanas, and of course it takes place

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in Boanas, a municipality in Durango. Just a little bit

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about this region, this municipality. The biggest city in Poanas

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is via Union, with the population of just sober ten

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thousand people, so not a huge city. This legend dates

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back to the turbulent days of the Mexican Revolution. And

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we've talked a little bit about the Mexican Revolution here

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and there, but more on our history podcast. The story

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as are known, but needless to say, it was a

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time of turmoil. To say life was difficult due to

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the constant clashes between federal troops and the revolutionaries, it's

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not enough. It's an understatement. There was just yeah, fight

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after fight. It was a it was a difficult time.

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And like I said at the top during the fun facts,

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the state of Vurango was essential to the Mexican Revolution.

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So during the revolution, a train went through Buanas regularly

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carrying troops and or supplies, and on one particular day,

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it was carrying more than two hundred soldiers federal soldiers

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along with their supplies and weapons when it was ambushed

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by the revolutionaries, and the revolutionaries used explosives and they

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blew up several train cars, which ended up killing most

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of the soldiers, and many were burned or mutilated like

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on the spot, they died, and those who survived their

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injuries were so severe that after hours of pain, they

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succumbed to their injuries. So essentially no survivors from this

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attack oh wow, and I mean no one came to

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their ai. But even if they had, like their injuries

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were soul severe like, they wouldn't have made it. As

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time passed, when the roar of the revolution faded and

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memories of the tragedy began to fade, people began to

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fear this train area, and almost no one ever wanted

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to take the train because it is said that at

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night you can still hear the whils and screams of

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the soldiers who.

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Died in that ambush. Oh no.

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And stories also tell that if someone manages to reach

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the station without hearing anything strange, if they're at the

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train station at dusk, they'll hear the distant whistle of

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an approaching train. They'll see the light like, oh, there's

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a train coming, and when said train is supposed to arrive,

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there's nothing there. Oh a phantom train. A phantom train. Yeah,

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a ghost train. I love ghost train. So yeah, people

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don't don't like to be in this area or take

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the train.

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Makes sense, makes sense?

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Yeah, I wouldn't either. I wouldn't either. And okay, I

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have I want to say one more. I purposely went

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into do a shorter episode this week because we're a

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little busy this week.

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We have a lot of stuff going on.

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We do Carmen will be at the time we're recording,

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she will have already arrived to visit me.

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We have two events, two.

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Whole events, and we have a lot of food and

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to try, and.

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We're gonna go to a treating. There's a lot going on.

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So yeah, I went at a shorter episode. So I

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have one more legend for you. This is the headless Man.

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It looks like there's two more. Oh shit, I wrote

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two more. That's crazy. It says the headless Man, then

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it says the little monster. Oh so this is the

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second to last one. Either way, it's a shorter episode

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than usual. It always feels like a little extra because

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they were only expecting one. Yes, exactly, Wow, well look

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at that anyway, the headless man. We have talked about

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headless ghosts before, like Precaveza in Etsalador, but also another.

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I think there's a bad Inveza somewhere in Mexico too,

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I think. So these are very common stories. So again,

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not a priest.

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Railroad worker. Ooh, trains were big here, so that's why

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I think it's a road worker. Makes sense.

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So, according to legend, in the nineteen fifties, in the

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town of Nasareno Lrango lived a man who worked switching

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tracks for the trains that traveled through this area. He

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lived the peaceful life. It was the same like routine

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base you know, revolved around work. One day, there was

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an interruption in his routine because there was a huge

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wedding held in town. The whole neighborhood was invited, including

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the railroad worker. There was music, dancing, and of course alcohol.

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So as the afternoon wore on, the guests, including the

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railroad worker, everyone was super drunk and so you know

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more laughing, more dancing, more drinking, and then he noticed

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the time, and he remembered that he had to go

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switch tracks for a train that was going to pass

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at eleven pm because he still had to do his job.

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So he hurried down to the train tracks, but he

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had drank too much, so he decided to lie down

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on the grass to rest, using the train tracks as

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a pillow. And he was so deeply asleep that he

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didn't notice when the train passed and beheaded him in

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an infant. Yeah, so he just slept through that. He's

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left through his death. Yeah, I was just well beheaded

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by the train tracks, leaving him headless. The next morning,

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the townspeople found his lifeless body and notified the family

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so he could be buried. But of course it's not

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the end of his story, because since that tragic day,

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people have seen his ghosts hanging around the train tracks.

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He appears as a headless figure, his school dangling on

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one hand as he walks slowly along the train tracks.

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Oh wow, imagine seeing that. No, No, it sounds like

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you have to avoid all the train tracks in Durgo.

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I think, yeah, if you're If I ever find myself

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in durgo, I will leave, but not on the train.

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Yeah, no, not on the train. I'm okay.

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And we have one more I guess, yeah, the monster

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or maybe just the chupacabra. You tell me, yes, the

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chupacras back a fave, a fave, So yeah, tell me

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what you think of the end of this, if it's

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a new creature or the chupacaas so. In August of

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twenty twenty three, a group of small ranches in Lro

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Lrango all reported that twenty animals had been killed or

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injured all during one week, and they all reported the

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same thing, having seen a creature attack the goats, sheep,

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and chickens. These all happened in the municipality of Lerro,

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mostly near the town of San Luis del Alto. And

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this is mostly desert with some hilly places, and there's

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ranches all from a few acres to several hundred acres

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in size. Next to Sant Luis del Alto, there's a

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state park called de Fernandez And this is basically just

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the wild canyons, forests, trees that are.

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Over four hundred years old. Oh wow, yes, so just

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you know wild land really. So.

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On August thirty, twenty twenty three, a family on a

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small ranch in Leo woke up to find ten of

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their animals dead. But it was strange. Some of the

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animals were still in their corrals and cages and there

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was no blood on the ground, no track marks around them,

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no evidence of a struggle. The dead sheep, goats, and

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chickens all appeared to have their blood drained out of

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them by deep puncture wounds. And these puncture wounds were

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over a foot deep.

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Damn, that's pretty deep. That's not the long ass tooth, right. Yeah.

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All of the sheep had puncture wounds on their necks,

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while goats had them on their torsos between their front legs,

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and the chickens also or so and the chickens on

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their chest, and all wounds appear to have been cauterized.

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I'm assuming you know what that means, Like try it over, yeah,

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like if you burn, like if I cut myself and

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I burn it? Whoa so like intentionally burnt. Yeah, that's

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how they described the bleeding. Yes, yes, okay, why was

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the I don't know. Okay, that's just what they said.

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They appeared to have been cauterized and on top of that,

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some of them had a strange circular suction cut marks

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on them. Okay, so like, I mean that cutterized thing

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and then dysunction. I mean suction marks make me think

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it's not the chipuc got it because those are not

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things I've ever heard associated with the Chipucupa. I feel like, no,

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you're right, I would agree with that. Yeah, okay, And

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I read one source that said these cut marks are

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just like a scene or are just like the Star

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Trek episode called the Man Trap, which features the shaggy,

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hideous looking salt vampire that sucked all the salt out

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of its victims before killing them. Oh, I wouldn't know.

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I've never seen Star Trek either. Yeah, but that's what

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they look like, if you if.

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You know.

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So, investigators interview a few vets from Gomez Palacio, another

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city in the municipality, went to check it out, and

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after talking to locals, they learned that there was nothing

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out of the ordinary leading up to the attacks, except

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for a few locals who said they saw what they

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called luces malas in the skies bad lights. Interesting, which

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does one side with Chabra sightings? Yeah, Like, if you

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assume that these lights are like UFOs. Others claim to

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have seen something that resembles the aka Mothman Mothman, which

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we talked about a little bit of Bao specifically way back,

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like I don't remember what episode anymore, but yeah, Almita

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is Mothman in Mexico, So maybe this was the work

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of Mothman. Maybe I don't know, and not the Another local,

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a teenager, claimed to have seen a cat like creature

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